competitive_discussion

[left bobcat]

I gotta go bad

[real prairie]

It's a real shame personally that Koraidon is another weather setter, would have preferred him being a terrain setter like Miraidon. Sun getting preferential treatment over rain 😭

[molten oasis]

Meanwhile rain is stronger

And what terrain do you give koraidon

[atomic mural]

fairy terrain duh

[molten oasis]

It’s fighting dragon, gonna invent the dragon terrain where it buffs dragon moves by 30% and removes the immunity of fairies

[atomic mural]

yesss

[molten oasis]

Or fighting terrain where SoR is the terrain and boost fighting moves by 30%

[atomic mural]

what would a fighting type terrain be called anyway

punchy terrain

ok the name punchy terrain would go crazy hard for a name 🔥 🔥 🔥

[molten oasis]

If we get another major mechanic introduction like terrain or ruins I bet it’ll be legendaries

[craggy dagger]

fighting terrain??

aura terrain?

or chi terrain

[atomic mural]

punchy terrain 🔥 🔥 🔥

[craggy dagger]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

what about fighting weather-

nope that makes no sense

[atomic portal]

boxing ring

cage match

[molten oasis]

Cage terrain

[real prairie]

Dojo

Q for anyone who has attended tournaments, do I need to worry about my aftermarket joycons? 😅

I know wireless controllers are a no-no

But I have no idea about my off brand joycons

[next stump]

do your normal ones suffer from drift

or is it a style thing

[molten oasis]

Wireless controllers are fine

But you need a wire

So they’re sorta a no-go sorta not

[charred saddle]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2281270084

head smasher

[molten oasis]

Head smashed

[charred saddle]

spam clicking headsmash is kinda fun

[atomic mural]

so real

https://tenor.com/view/chi-yu-overheat-miss-blind-pokemon-pokemon-meme-gif-3700292439795595212

[left bobcat]

Man I thought the horse was gonna win

[lofty tartan]

Most wireless controllers come with a usb cable that allows you to plug them into the console or dock - those are fine. I bring a wireless controller with me to every regional because it's reliable.

If it doesn't come with a cable, any old USB cable will work.

[molten oasis]

This is why we don’t run overheat

[atomic mural]

truwe

i lost a game because i missed my overheat

(who would have thought)

[craggy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/competitive-pokemon-pokemon-chi-yu-zacian-gif-11975217553074508895

hey @molten oasis

[molten oasis]

I thought I ran into you on ladder and you pinged me at first lol

[bold geode]

Bro got caught in the comp chat

[molten oasis]

I knew this lol

[torn parrot]

is pokepaste down

guys

if pokepaste goes down

i swear to god it will never go back up again

[dense latch]

it's working for me

[torn parrot]

go into a link real quick

[dense latch]

works for me

[torn parrot]

https://pokepast.es/e57dd4e6e100974d

must be only me

i cant go IN

LET ME IN

IT WONT LOAD

i swapped to my phone on cellular i cant get INNN

NNNNOOOOO

[spiral ridge]

Works for me

Here

[molten oasis]

Skill issue

[shadow wind]

Dang I gotta watch out for Fire/Dark types I guess

[molten oasis]

Shucks I lost to then one time

Whatever shall I do

[shadow wind]

I love taking 16 games as my sample size

[real prairie]

Good to know but still concerned about my joycons 🤣 id imagine they are fine then

[real prairie]

they just stopped working, had to throw them out

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2281469239-6exi8y0jcfz0kyke6oxxh0mv19t646apw

https://tenor.com/view/perfection-perfect-michael-fassbender-magneto-x-men-first-class-gif-2260686001358167676

[real prairie]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2281476415-2gxrpg00wsr8naybzocyanu5f1r100jpw?p2

Beautiful recovery with the thunderwave bait

[knotty mirage]

I have question is it possible for tera stellar tera blast chien pao ohko tera water max HP caly ice ?

[chrome knot]

252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Tera-Stellar Chien-Pao Tera Blast (100 BP) (1st Use) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Tera-Water Calyrex-Ice Rider: 134-160 (64.7 - 77.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[knotty mirage]

Hmm the thing is i playing on cart ladder and this guy use tera stellar tera blast chien pao to ohko my caly ice that i tera into water

Oh did the fucking guy use choice banded chien pao

[chrome knot]

252+ Atk Choice Band Sword of Ruin Tera-Stellar Chien-Pao Tera Blast (100 BP) (1st Use) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Tera-Water Calyrex-Ice Rider: 204-240 (98.5 - 115.9%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

[charred saddle]

interesting

[knotty mirage]

Good damn it

[chrome knot]

its kinda funny

[knotty mirage]

I just lost to random bs on cart ladder again

[charred saddle]

does LO get roll too?

[chrome knot]

84-100

6.25%

[charred saddle]

hmm

[knotty mirage]

Oh well i guess it just the risk of playing on closed team sheet

[stray hornet]

How bulky should my ogerpon-W be for a bulky set

[bold geode]

Hey stinky

[charred saddle]

no

[timber falcon]

Banded pao is an interesting idea

Dumb but interesting

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/flbreglass/status/1840871586431451366

𝗳𝗹𝗯𝗿𝗲! ➜ San Antonio (@flbreglass) on X

ahhh.. refreshing :D

Roaring Moon with Booster Energy

Twitter · Sep 30, 2024, 9:49 PM

How is a booster energy consumed tho

[bold geode]

Yuh Huh

[charred saddle]

dont make me block you again 🙂

ty

[bold geode]

How is Leo

[left bobcat]

Well this awkward

[craggy dagger]

booster energy looks like a capsule so i imagine its like a spray type medicine or a drink of some kind

[spiral ridge]

They all are secret kids toys and have spots to unscrew a back panel to put the capsule battery in

[craggy dagger]

???

[vernal shadow]

Do people usually not invest in speed on kyoger ?

I just outspeed one and Im confused. How do people build kyoger ?

I'm also feeling like dropping the trick room aspect of my team but idk what to use instead of ursaluna and amoogus

[torn parrot]

Depends on the team

Some go bulky and rely on origin pulse or trick room

[torn parrot]

I know what it is

You know what it is

It’s monster energy drink

https://tenor.com/view/monster-energy-drink-smoke-can-gif-15042566

An energy drink for monsters

[viscid helm]

Hi, I’m new to competitive could someone help me like understand it and make a team or something if you can? You can dm me if you want would be appreciated

[next stump]

if they have leftovers and calm mind, they’re likely slow

[next stump]

are you interested in single or double battles?

[vernal shadow]

Just spout and origin pulse is all they showed

[viscid helm]

@next stump doubles

[torn parrot]

Peopel should never ever ever cook with dodrio

If you try to build a team tangled feet stop it

[strange fjord]

RNG dependent as heck

cant blame anyone if you lose to confusion. it comes with the territory

[next stump]

It’s a lot, but here’s a copy paste message I send to anyone interested

Here is a list of all of the resources I find most helpful when playing/learning VGC:

https://www.vgcguide.com/ (Helpful website for basics and also to get your feet wet)

https://www.pikalytics.com/ (Shows you usage data and helps you build Pokémon)

https://nerd-of-now.github.io/NCP-VGC-Damage-Calculator/ (Damage calculator that is very helpful when building teams or reflecting on games)

https://youtube.com/c/CybertronVGC (Best channel for daily VGC content, guiding you through the thought process you need for success)

https://victoryroadvgc.com/ (Tournament results, team reports and breakdowns, and rental codes can be found here)

https://twitter.com/VGCPastes - Tournament and high ranked teams

https://twitter.com/vgccorner - Helpful Twitter account that posts in-depth EV spreads and ideas about competitive pokemon

There are dozens of other resources, some of which are in the pinned messages of this channel. But these IMO are the best places to start absorbing knowledge and getting to a place where you're comfortable with VGC

[torn parrot]

So its like
Your Gambling
For privilege of gambling

So it cancels out

Because by the enemy gaining the ability to miss against you

Your also gaining the ability to hit yourself and not do anything

Giving them more chances to hit you and more chances for you to hit yourself

It doesn’t make any seeeeeenseeeeeee

[mint void]

if u dont wanna read everything or have addtionall input you can probably DM people here too. at least me if u want

How far you want to go competing determines how deep you have to go or should go in team building and meta knowledge and such.

Too add to the resources Dillon sent: its usually a good idea to have a look at proven teams and figure out why they did good to understand.

[torn parrot]

I really love the size variation in scarlet and violet

[molten oasis]

Any of you play or can play CIR peli shifu?

[mint void]

depends

[molten oasis]

Wdym depends

[mint void]

depends what u want

[molten oasis]

Match up practice

[dense latch]

yea

[molten oasis]

Why else would I ask I don’t play anything else

Besides zacian

[mint void]

dunno that

[dense latch]

down to help with practice if you want

[molten oasis]

Do you have scarf shifu specifically?

That’s what I’m struggling with rn

[mint void]

dont have time for that sorry

barely find time to play myself man

:(

[dense latch]

i’ll make the change

[molten oasis]

It’s Alr I appreciate it

[mint void]

erik gotchu

[dense latch]

is there a specific six you struggle with?

[molten oasis]

Just peli shifu CIR

[dense latch]

bet

[molten oasis]

that’s giving me a hard time

[dense latch]

showdown username is eriksp

[molten oasis]

K

[dense latch]

any leads you want to practice?

[molten oasis]

Shifu peli

[dense latch]

ready when you are

[molten oasis]

Sent

gg

[dense latch]

gg

there's some really strong pins you can work with there

[molten oasis]

hearth moon just pins your CIR thats great

hm

im trying to think about what i lost to the other day

[dense latch]

roaring moon is something i should've gotten rid of earlier though

threatens like everything on that team

[molten oasis]

yea

im more scared about bringing moon because of it just exploding to CIR

[foggy lodge]

Anyone wants to play a bo3 on cart?

Or showdown i don't really care but i prefer cart

[molten oasis]

im down for a cart bo3

[foggy lodge]

les goo

[dense latch]

you can get pretty good trades with it, if you get a tailwind or a KO with acrobatics before getting KOd that's a W

[molten oasis]

i agree

ok, im gonna go do that bo3 then i gotta go get ready, ty i'll probably bug you about that again

[foggy lodge]

@molten oasis 010 is the code

lmk when you are ready to search

[molten oasis]

k

[dense latch]

i have a lot of free time for the next few months lol i'm happy to help whenever needed

[molten oasis]

searching

which one do i pick wtf

[foggy lodge]

The second one

I think its GS 1?

[molten oasis]

k

yea there we go

wanna OTS?

[foggy lodge]

wait do you have an OTS

[molten oasis]

i gotcha

https://pokepast.es/aafcacb4fbd117d5

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/17cb38488b68f8b8

[molten oasis]

glhf

damn

[stray girder]

what would be the best tera type for camerupt not using the solid rock ability

[molten oasis]

i played that g1 terribly

[foggy lodge]

I got lucky with the sandsear miss tbh

[molten oasis]

eh even then i was really bad about removing amoonguss

[dense latch]

1 why camerupt
2 probably grass or water depending on the format

what other ability are you using

[molten oasis]

I FOLDED SO HARD

dammit man

i think i need a crit

yea, yea i need a crit badly lol

damn ggs @foggy lodge

i needed to sandsear i think

[foggy lodge]

ggs lol

[molten oasis]

doubling zama was also so dumb

i probably won if i didnt do that

or at least got close

[foggy lodge]

Every acrobatics animation was a jumpscare

[molten oasis]

i needed a crit and i think maybe i won there

[foggy lodge]

I think i should have just sucker punch Lando in the second turn

[molten oasis]

172 Atk Tera-Flying Roaring Moon Acrobatics (110 BP) vs. 156 HP / 156+ Def Zamazenta-Crowned on a critical hit: 87-103 (46.5 - 55%) -- 67.58% chance to 2HKO yea 1 crit game me a potential out

[foggy lodge]

And body press Roaring

[molten oasis]

i agree that would have secured the win

ggwp that was super close

[foggy lodge]

yeah ggwp

Helped me with some practice

The Pelipper surviving wood hammer lowkey gave me the win

[molten oasis]

yea i was legit like bruh

how its SoR wood hammer

bulky guy fs

[foggy lodge]

mhm

[molten oasis]

moon did good that whole set im happy about that

glad its working out with acro now

[foggy lodge]

Mhm

Double up pressure into Pao the whole time is scary

Tho acrobatics not letting in sash surprised me

[mint void]

someone just pulled Dozo Giri Toxic Orb with Flamig shit on me

didnt bring calyS just Booming Weezing and DozoGiri Flamigo

[molten oasis]

Yea, I’d be happy to run another set sometime

That’s a good mu for me to practice

[foggy lodge]

Yeah sure lmk when you want to play

I'm available most of the time

[stray girder]

anger point...

also because its my favorite mon

[molten oasis]

Lmfao what is that

[atomic mural]

https://pokepast.es/da021ebc25d50748 any thoughts on how to fix my trick room matchup?

[atomic mural]

spongebob

[molten oasis]

That’s is not SpongeBob

[next stump]

what kind of trick room are you struggling against

like calyrex ice?

[atomic mural]

also lunala

[chrome knot]

mfw

played all of swsh for 0atk love ball csr
played all of swsh for love ball cir
played scarlet for love ball raging bolt
played violet for love ball urshifu water + ogerpon

I am currently playing Lunala and feature none of the other mons,,,

oopsiesssss :3

[left bobcat]

Did someone say Lunala?

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2281842384

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2281845792

shoooooooo

[chrome knot]

i didnt know playing so incorrectly and getting lucky enough for it to work was possible good god

like does lilligant just not have cc ???

[molten oasis]

lol

[left bobcat]

yes

[chrome knot]

CLICK IT

[left bobcat]

no

[chrome knot]

???????

[left bobcat]

ive got experience

[chrome knot]

you clearly dont!

[left bobcat]

i know what to do-

most of the times sometimes you just go to gamble

[chrome knot]

you literally didnt have to

like at all

[foggy lodge]

The safe plays are not allowed in that game or what

[chrome knot]

t1 is so telegraphed, amoonguss HAS to tera otherwise dies immediately, most used tera is always water, ursh has to also respect after u heatwave so very inclined to tera & slow down tempo of game with spore

[molten oasis]

Safe plays=no
Gambling=yes

[left bobcat]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2281849858 my stupidness getting rewarded is sometimes the best f u in the face

[chrome knot]

t2/3 you dont even have to sleep amoonguss just fucking kill it lmfao

[left bobcat]

if I can make it happen makes it 10x better

[chrome knot]

also indeedee never even has to die but ur allergic to clicking cc into ursh for some reason

[left bobcat]

it lives

they always carry a sash

[foggy lodge]

Eruption+ CC kills all the time even with sash😭

[left bobcat]

my torkoal is slower than amoongus

[foggy lodge]

IT IS NOT

[chrome knot]

IT WAS LORB AND YOU JUS SCOUT FOR ITEM ANYWAYS

[left bobcat]

mmm ok?

[left bobcat]

yes it is

torkoal has a base 20 speed and amoongus has a base 30

i always go for minus speed because this is trick room team

[chrome knot]

lmao

[foggy lodge]

😭

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-chaos-gif-26597016

[chrome knot]

can’t say im shocked the psyspam team has insanely unoptimal replays

[left bobcat]

damn i didnt see that

[torn parrot]

How’s that possible

is your torkoal not 0 speed?

[left bobcat]

its supposed to be

unless this is the other lunala team

[charred saddle]

interesting interaction i see

[left bobcat]

https://pokepast.es/d3e246ba01c0ac11

i just noticed i didnt even give indeedee a nature

im the best stupid player there ever was

[molten oasis]

[left bobcat]

No one can do it like me

[craggy dagger]

emma emma

[chrome knot]

hai

[craggy dagger]

save meeee

[chrome knot]

fronm

[craggy dagger]

school

[chrome knot]

oop

cant I left dat :3

[craggy dagger]

7 straight hours .-.

no lunch break either

[real prairie]

anyone know how to fix broken replay links on PASRS?

Coming up as WL with missing G1

Replay entries is G1 & G2, WW

[next stump]

I’d try re pasting the game 1 link if you haven’t already

[foggy lodge]

Oh god what is that team

Thanks i hate it

[torn parrot]

Every single episode of what if season 3 as been extremely boring

[molten oasis]

Why even save that shit lol

[real prairie]

Save everything

[real prairie]

yeah no luck, its not a one off, its happening a few times throughout the doc

[atomic mural]

they are using sandy shocks as the pokemon on the thumbnails. its a sign

[craggy dagger]

morrissssss-

[molten oasis]

That’s in 3 days huh

[real prairie]

Yep, absolutely bricking it

[torn parrot]

Wooo

I hope some bullshit wins

[left bobcat]

But is it in there?

Man when will iron bundle come in

[bold geode]

My bets are on Terapagos CSR and Zamazenta

[left bobcat]

Ice rider?

[bold geode]

Idt VGC has a G league bro
Though I doubt it'd even make that

Also no Shadow Rider

At least for Birmingham
Ice Rider probably could win Birmingham, though probably more success at San Antonio

[left bobcat]

Eh if the horses don’t win it’s a win for the community

It’d be funny if some underdog shit wins

[bold geode]

It won't

[craggy dagger]

IM FREEEEEE

[bold geode]

It's an EU regional

They go consistency hard

[torn parrot]

Boring

[bold geode]

With the exception of Boyt but he's a walking exception

[bold geode]

Hey if it gives them best chances to win 🤷‍♂️
I wouldn't pay a ton of money to bring Giratina to some shit

[bold geode]

Nuh Uh
I trap you
You'll never escape :3

[left bobcat]

Still

Boringgggggggggggggggg

[bold geode]

Nah

[dense latch]

Iron Bundle is VGC’s Killian Hayes

[left bobcat]

What are the odds that someone uses the exact same team (a mirror match)

[bold geode]

Y'all's expectations on "oh boring cuz they don't show Cosmoem on stream" is really just dumb imo

[craggy dagger]

fuck you-
i spent 7 hours at school without any food and back to back to back to back classes

[bold geode]

I mean I'd still feed you

Actually no
I trap you so I can get good Asian food

[left bobcat]

We already know turn 1 incin and Calyrex

[craggy dagger]

i would cook you alive-
istg
i’m not doing school, work, and cooking all in one day

7 hours back to back to back to back classes, 4 hours work

[left bobcat]

But as to who takes this whole thing

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm… that’s probably the interesting part wouldn’t be surprised if it was a shadow rider

[bold geode]

Trump voice "they're eating the monkeys, cooking them alive"

[craggy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/miku-hatsune-vocaloid-anonymous-m-miku-hatsune-gif-11088466157287337155

[spiral ridge]

Jeez Goodluck at work

[atomic mural]

yo its the girl from fortnite

[craggy dagger]

I SWEAR TO G-

[atomic mural]

:)

[bold geode]

Honestly sometimes I feel like a quarter of the people who complain cuz something won probably didn't even watch the regional to see if a match was good or not and just want to complain

[craggy dagger]

ok that’s it-
im gonna just disappear

[spiral ridge]

:(

[bold geode]

[craggy dagger]

oh wait no

[craggy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-violent-meme-ogerpon-funny-gif-1579826530560702924

[bold geode]

Never leave Nova

[atomic mural]

[spiral ridge]

Lmao that gif

[bold geode]

Who will be silly then

And stinky :3

[atomic mural]

https://tenor.com/view/nameku-goku-nameku-goku-ssj-super-saiyan-gif-16821398752001643282

[craggy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/ogerpon-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-revenge-kitikami-gif-12243515870181973761

[bold geode]

What I see from the high ground when a schizophrenic is chucking shit at me

[spiral ridge]

My brain really went “sounds like moon knight that’s funny”
I may be slow

[craggy dagger]

sooooo
you throwing stuff at yourself?

[atomic mural]

crazy

[bold geode]

He's learning
Good job buddy

[spiral ridge]

You can’t talk

Fuck

[bold geode]

Hey leave my 5 voices alone

[craggy dagger]

monke monke
really-
only 5?
those are rookie numbers

[bold geode]

True
Fuckin schizoless
No schizophrenia

[spiral ridge]

Nova just has hoyo character voice lines in her head at all times

[craggy dagger]

not anymore

[torn parrot]

I love overlord

[bold geode]

Nova I'll do the portal combo if we can knock Scotty in that bitch first

[spiral ridge]

Dude I had period where I almost just blurted out a LOL item aloud for no reason cus I was so sleepy deprived at school
My fucking Brad imagined strategy building while sleep deprived and my friends thought I was crazy

[craggy dagger]

i have questions about the ethical code as well as physics, english, japanese, and my own life bouncing around in my head
it’s like an echo chamber in there

[spiral ridge]

ADHD college edition

[torn parrot]

STATIK SHIV

[craggy dagger]

Overlord is gooodddd
though i only made it to the second season

[bold geode]

Scotty idt you can have those

[spiral ridge]

Bring back goredrinker

[torn parrot]

It’s stays peak for all 4 seasons

BLADE OF THE RUINED KING

[spiral ridge]

My dad fucking loved overlord

[spiral ridge]

Viego is cool and hot

he’s also fun to play when you like every role like me

So I actually know the characters

[craggy dagger]

lmao what

the combo only works if i can land my uppercut

so if we miss it’s my fault

[spiral ridge]

I think he wants you to uppercut me in it

[bold geode]

You better line that shit up then

[craggy dagger]

it’s not that hard

[torn parrot]

I love the yordles

[bold geode]

Ok
Hey Scotty you see those flowers over there

[craggy dagger]

i just gotta get to spawn on time

[spiral ridge]

I own all but one Morde skin as he’s my Pookie and they’re RELEASING A 200$ GACHA SKIN FOR HIM

WHYYYY

[spiral ridge]

Yeah on my profile :)

[real prairie]

thanks for routing for me

[gentle crag]

oneofakindof has given 1 Gen Rep to mayahoppins

[molten oasis]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/866230603299946509/969796201966891018/A3172EF9-5632-4639-8FD3-568A03D9484A.gif

[spiral ridge]

I play trist poppy most outta the yordles
Done them all though

[bold geode]

Rocket after hearing "maximum pulse"

[torn parrot]

I love

cannon poppy
mecha poppy
mushroom poppy
ninja poppy
bandage poppy
didn’t sleep poppy

And hammer Tristana

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/mordekaiser-league-of-legends-gif-23265917

[molten oasis]

What are y’all talking about

[spiral ridge]

I love my pookie

He’s so adorable and murderous

Like majima :)

[bold geode]

I wanna send Scotty into a portal and kill him :3

[spiral ridge]

Oh yeah I play kennen too

[torn parrot]

Tristana is my favorite of all time

[spiral ridge]

Didn’t sleep poppy?

Who am I forgetting

[torn parrot]

Vex

[spiral ridge]

Ohhhh

Emo bitch

[spiral ridge]

BRING BACK HOB TRIST WTF LETHAL ISNT AS SILLY

Still quite fun

[bold geode]

Oh @molten oasis I keep sucking ass with Dr Strange cuz I have to always reload at the worst times

[atomic mural]

hey apple

[next stump]

PTSD flashbacks to mid tristana with HOB

[molten oasis]

Wha?

[left bobcat]

ogerpon is my goat

[spiral ridge]

Dude it’s so fun

Bot mid top give me it all

Yes I know top trist wasn’t hob

[torn parrot]

I used to play Tristana in every role

Just for fun

[bold geode]

But Drago I always lose cuz like
During reloading I have to throw shield up to not eat shit but then I drop it and I still have to reload

[spiral ridge]

I did trist jungle and my friend poppy adc cus we fucked around on character swap for just a little too long

I did good he got fucked

[bold geode]

Like bruh I stopped mid animation 5 times to not die, lemme fucking reload brother

[charred saddle]

potty boy

[bold geode]

How you say that when you the one smelling like shit

[spiral ridge]

Yeah his reload cancelling can get really fucking annoying
Just gotta commit

[spiral ridge]

Hey love

[charred saddle]

[gentle crag]

abused1 has given 1 Gen Rep to scottyboi7422

[bold geode]

But then I just like
Eat shit anyways if I do so

[left bobcat]

Hol uppppp

[bold geode]

Bronze 3 REALLY fuckin hates Strange

[craggy dagger]

LEO

[charred saddle]

[craggy dagger]

i’m so tired…

[spiral ridge]

Do you get any rest before work?

[charred saddle]

me too heh

[spiral ridge]

Wait

I didn’t have you friended wtf damn

[charred saddle]

[spiral ridge]

Leo hiding

[charred saddle]

i mean i dont really like care if i added people in discord haha

[chrome knot]

@craggy dagger ive defeated transphobes in mario kart

[charred saddle]

always been

[spiral ridge]

Same I’m just surprised especially cus you leave servers often enough that if we don’t I’d fucking lose track of you

https://tenor.com/view/korone-hololive-korone-bonk-korone-inugami-inugami-korone-gif-23411341

[charred saddle]

wdym often enough

only did it twice

[spiral ridge]

Ehh I think thrice actually at least

[charred saddle]

will be a third time in about 3 months

eh really?

[spiral ridge]

Yeah bitch

[craggy dagger]

no lol

[spiral ridge]

At least 3

[charred saddle]

kek

[spiral ridge]

:( Goodluck dear

[craggy dagger]

i’m headed there rn

[charred saddle]

[spiral ridge]

I remember I found your ass in sluggy one time and was like “this bitch”

[charred saddle]

huh when

[craggy dagger]

Oh yeah

[spiral ridge]

…
This motherfucker does not value our talks

[charred saddle]

oh that

[craggy dagger]

i got a tip off from someone though

[spiral ridge]

Goodluck

[charred saddle]

yeah uh

[spiral ridge]

Take care

Ooo yay nice

https://tenor.com/view/yumeko-jabami-蛇喰-夢子-kakegurui-anime-gif-17306696

[craggy dagger]

??

[spiral ridge]

Oh I read that as

You got tips lol

Like money tips 😭

[craggy dagger]

i was talking about that time-

[spiral ridge]

I thought you meant work :)
oops

Sorry lol

[charred saddle]

im not following any of the discussion

me head not working at all

[spiral ridge]

She was told by someone so she knew already

Being tipped off

[charred saddle]

about me appearing in sluggy channel?

[spiral ridge]

Idfk at this point
Probably?

[charred saddle]

oh

[craggy dagger]

mhm

[charred saddle]

i mean i kinda like watching her stream heh

[spiral ridge]

They’re nice yeah

[craggy dagger]

a little birdie told me that u was you

anyways

[charred saddle]

[spiral ridge]

Ohh minh knowing this account was Leo?

Cus he joined a damn raid 😭

[charred saddle]

OH

THAT TIME

UH YEAH SO

[spiral ridge]

YEAH YOUVE DONE THIS QUITE A FEW TIMES YOU WEASEL

[charred saddle]

yeah damn.

[spiral ridge]

FOCUS MT ASS WHEN YOU GO I SEE YOU ON DOTA 24/7

[charred saddle]

HEY

DOTA WAS MY LIFE

[spiral ridge]

IM WATCHING YOU BOY

[charred saddle]

i used to make money with that game yk

[spiral ridge]

IT STILL IS YOUR LIFE I SEE YOU ON IT ODTEN

[craggy dagger]

[spiral ridge]

ooo nice

[charred saddle]

back then i can just open a new account get 3k mmr and sell it for like 20$

ez fast money

[spiral ridge]

Ohh account farmer

[charred saddle]

yes

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-sip-drink-gif-23095189

Maybe I shouldn’t have sent a friend request

[charred saddle]

uh discord?

why

[spiral ridge]

Jokingly judging

Cus account selling just helps ban evades and Smurf’s no?

Or do people use it for diff reasons on dota

[charred saddle]

[spiral ridge]

Yeah that’s what I thought

My joking judgement is well founded

[charred saddle]

[spiral ridge]

No life for money to help toxic no life’s
Have you no shame

[charred saddle]

yk, as they say

money money something something priority

[spiral ridge]

Funny

Isn’t it?

[charred saddle]

talk about being toxic, i also kinda made a kid cry in dota

played with a friends lil brother

[bold geode]

Big funny

[spiral ridge]

Bro I’ve made friends playing you’re making people cry 😭
We are VERY different moba players

[charred saddle]

but look, im not mad. i was just like disappointed and tried giving advice

but i think i went a bit harsh and he cried

literally left the game and my friend told me he cried

[spiral ridge]

I’ve met like 20+ people I friended on discord and would just chat or play with for months after
And you’re here causing kids to cry

😭

Anything for the bag I guess

[charred saddle]

its unranked

[spiral ridge]

Bro I play ranked and I’m not toxic 😭

This is fucking

[charred saddle]

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/aokiji-akainu-aokiji-vs-akainu-one-piece-anime-gif-18756892

[charred saddle]

look look, me change when i play moba

[spiral ridge]

Fucking venom symbiote

[charred saddle]

damn

[spiral ridge]

I try to stay positive cus people tilting just piss me off more 😭

[charred saddle]

i always tilt

idk why, its a bad habit

[spiral ridge]

Mute chat?

It helped me just forget that part of the game

[charred saddle]

i always play with friends so

[spiral ridge]

Ahhh

[charred saddle]

never played solo, everytime i play solo i tilt so bad

[spiral ridge]

Nah for me I’ve been doing support cus I hate losing bot and every single game I get fucking

Resilient or unlucky under my name and have like 60% WR

[charred saddle]

uh so i also played mobile legends right

[spiral ridge]

60 sounds good until I’m a full rank class below my normal 😭

I earn like 30 lose 18

And it’s still slow climb lmfao

[craggy dagger]

uh what should i do
i have roaring moon, clefairy, hearthflame and urshifu water-
looking for a final teammate-

[spiral ridge]

CSR?

[craggy dagger]

the restricted is a secret

[charred saddle]

so my friends are also what u call semi pro, goes to tier 2 team but got dropped out

we always played like high mmr/ even streamer/ pro

got 81% WR in my whole game.

I CANT HELP IT IF I PLAY FUCKING WITH PUBS THAT CANT DO ANYTHING

[spiral ridge]

Ohhh? Ok

Chien pao?

You have lots of physical so sword of ruin

[charred saddle]

LIKE IF I PLAYED SUPP, THE CARRY DOES LITERALLY NO DAMAGE NO FARM OR FARM BUT NO FIGHT

IF I PLAYED CARRY, THE TEAM DOESNT EVEN BOTHER HELPING ME

uh me tilt basically

[spiral ridge]

I always type sup pref at start

And cater to them because i can do it all

[craggy dagger]

i should add special attackers right

[spiral ridge]

Even if it isn’t the most meta comfort is good to make sure they do okay

[spiral ridge]

Probably

BM Ursa?

[charred saddle]

my stats

[spiral ridge]

Woah dota looks good what

I remember it looking shit 😭

[charred saddle]

thats mobile legends tho

[spiral ridge]

And damn nice

[charred saddle]

dota looks more cool

[spiral ridge]

Oh
Semi pro mobile legends players 😭

I forget mobile legends has community sometimes Ngl

[spiral ridge]

Yeah that just looks too clean and modern to be dota that I knew

[charred saddle]

amoonguss/rilla seems nice btw

[charred saddle]

oh nvm theres clef so amoonguss nono

[craggy dagger]

hearthflame and rilla type double up

[spiral ridge]

Raging bolt or blursa?

Either of those sound good here

[charred saddle]

not really a problem, i was thinking on who would be able to play around with fairies / flutter

also with terrain = can play with glide spam firepon

also gets FO

[craggy dagger]

okeh so here’s what i have

https://pokepast.es/aa7161d59e5e28f6
i don’t wanna be deleted into the ground by intimidate

[spiral ridge]

With rilla flying gets scary vs the team but that’s like only torn so

[craggy dagger]

acro moon hurricane peli

[spiral ridge]

Oo lati

Uh

Farig?

[spiral ridge]

Moon isn’t that popular but peli yeah

Forgot them oops

[torn parrot]

Don’t the latinas have that signature item that boosts dragon and psychic moves

[spiral ridge]

They have something yeah

I just know nova used enough lati that I trusted she has a reason lmao

[pallid hare]

Soul Dew

[craggy dagger]

went with cloak instead of lorb

[shadow wind]

Latinas 😭😭

[forest arrow]

We love latinas @bold geode

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/shadow-shadow-the-hedge-hog-hmm-smirk-gif-14129200

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-glass-leonardo-leonardo-raise-glass-gif-25093377

[vagrant ingot]

I just missed out on the January Challenges from victory road is there a way I can just like set it so that way I get a notification whenever a new tournament has been announced?

[next stump]

following them on twitter or joining their discord is the easiest way

[craggy dagger]

shadow-

rest in peace year of shadow

[spiral ridge]

Regardless of year shadow still loves latinas

[spiral ridge]

Got a good game and movie outta it

[craggy dagger]

give us year of Silver

[spiral ridge]

That would be cool

[craggy dagger]

please give my sweet boy some more screen time that’s not Sonic 06

[spiral ridge]

His design is nice

[craggy dagger]

Please-

[spiral ridge]

I was legit about to say as long as it isn’t ‘06

[craggy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/silver-the-hedgehog-gif-23535673

god-
06 is a shitshow

[spiral ridge]

Yup

When I said this last time you defended it for a sec 😭

lol

[shadow wind]

Well I just witnessed a CIR get OHKO'd behind light screen

What an experience

[dense latch]

https://pokepast.es/209bf81454eb15ac is eleki worth keeping now that i added iron val? it’s felt off but i’ve always really liked it, been thinking of giving it light screen for some extra utility

[next stump]

if anyone feels like cheesing the bo1 ladder with CIR try this team out and let me know what you think https://pokepast.es/47cb000734fb2fca

takes a bit to get the feel of but currently 25-4 on a smurf

[shadow wind]

Love the power band Urshifu, I see it once in a while and that is the grossest way to play TR

[next stump]

not necessarily, the speed control into stuff like miraidon is still nice

and gives your team to hit otherwise annoying bulky water types

[dense latch]

that’s sort of why i was still wanting to keep it + attachment

speed control is nice for zama too since it takes one eweb for cir to outspeed rilla, and lando to outspeed pao and zama

[next stump]

wait i said not necessarily but i meant to keep it oops hahaha

yeah eleki + CIR is really nice into rilla

but I’ve also found urshifu-R + rilla leads to be annoying

because they can just fake out + strikes you

but you have amoonguss on the team to try and deal with that

[forest arrow]

Hey I’m kind of playing with that team well I was, I changed it up tho

[dense latch]

what do you think of light screen over volt switch? i havent found myself using it very often and i feel like that could offer some extra bulk to the team

[forest arrow]

I changed eleki to flutter entirely

[dense latch]

that’s fair

[forest arrow]

I didn’t like getting outsped by booster flutters

[dense latch]

they serve similar purposes as fast speed control

[forest arrow]

So I joined them

yeah this is what I got rn

https://pokepast.es/5eb59ed6e64ba85c

[dense latch]

what about timid eleki?

oh wait nvm you have chi tu

flutter chi yu is broken

[forest arrow]

It already felt like it did little to no damage into stuff but you could try

I changed Lando to chi yu yes

This was already a team tho too at worlds that I didn’t know

[next stump]

it’s worth testing something over volt switch, because tbh the team does not have anything you can really volt switch into besides amoonguss

or maybe CIR

[tiny karma]

Regieleki's moveset:

Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Assurance, Body Slam, Bounce, Explosion, Extreme Speed, Facade, Giga Impact, Rapid Spin, Self-Destruct, Supercell Slam, Take Down, Thrash, Wild Charge

Special Moves

Ancient Power, Charge Beam, Electro Ball, Electroweb, Hyper Beam, Rising Voltage, Round, Shock Wave, Snore, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunder Cage, Thunder Shock, Thunderbolt, Volt Switch, Zap Cannon

Status Moves

Agility, Charge, Eerie Impulse, Electric Terrain, Endure, Light Screen, Lock-On, Magnet Rise, Protect, Rain Dance, Reflect, Rest, Screech, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Thunder Wave

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Regieleki.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[next stump]

yoooo shoutout screech regieleki in sword and shield

[dense latch]

lol

[forest arrow]

Screech Lance tech lol

[dense latch]

i remember some light clay screens tech

[next stump]

https://youtu.be/rRMZ4Qa4uLo?si=OJ2CjPGL2rEJDRVZ

[dense latch]

the old road to ranked logo

i was obsessed with rtr back in the day

[forest arrow]

I can’t wait for double restricted it’ll be my first time

[next stump]

it’ll be fun as long as it’s not a year long or more

[forest arrow]

True that, definitely too long

[next stump]

i’m super curious how they handle the rest of this games lifespan

they’ve got probably 1.5-2 years left

unless something has been cooking behind the scenes without announcement

[torn parrot]

I’m gonna scream into your ear

[spiral ridge]

TCG on cart and they fully remove VGC

New comp scene boom

:)

[torn parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-mad-max-gif-21830258

[spiral ridge]

She held up to her word

[dense latch]

yea there’s not many more formats to work with

either repeat the last few regs or like ban tera

[spiral ridge]

Double restricted next is most likely

I think a Tera less format could be neat

Lots of mons are Tera hogs it would be small meta change

[dense latch]

yea aside from that i meant my bad

[spiral ridge]

I think like a lower power format would be better with no Tera

[dense latch]

double restricted feels like a lock as reg i

[left bobcat]

I wonder who’s I’m gonna pick for reg I

Maybe Lunala and Groudon

Groudon/miraidon

Kyogre/ice rider

Zacian/shadow rider man I just don’t know

[atomic mural]

caly ice miraidopn

[forest arrow]

Mirai/Ice Rider

[left bobcat]

Oh-

[atomic mural]

"guys I found this unique pair"

[foggy lodge]

I wonder who will be the friend of my Zamazenta

[atomic mural]

shadow rider?

[dense latch]

csr maybe

[foggy lodge]

Maybe Miraidon

[dense latch]

i like the idea of cir zama

[foggy lodge]

CSR Zama is broke so yeh is probable

[dense latch]

i dont think it’ll be that good

[spiral ridge]

Zama is just gonna be an amazing second restricted no matter

[dense latch]

but they’re my two fav restricteds

[foggy lodge]

Its a good idea tho they are both physical

[spiral ridge]

Wide guard and heavy fucking damage with decent enough typing and bulk he’s just too good all round

That he pairs well with tons

[forest arrow]

Zama CIR sounds cool too

[foggy lodge]

Zama and Lunala fighting for the 6th slot of the team

[spiral ridge]

Lmfao real

[foggy lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/reggie-reggie-vs-iwata-reggie-fils-aime-satoru-fight-gif-24920256

[spiral ridge]

Wait just
LUNALA ZAMA THATS IT

[spiral ridge]

neither of the mons mentioned have hands

[foggy lodge]

Lunala has like claws

[atomic mural]

https://pokepast.es/d4bf995c36f763fc 💪 💪 💪

[spiral ridge]

Show me thumbs

What makes a hand a hand vs like a paw is it just a thumb

[dense latch]

you should be extra original and add urshifu

[foggy lodge]

Hands

[foggy lodge]

Damn

She doesn't has thumbs

I thought she had like a small finger

Efecto mandarina

[atomic mural]

https://pokepast.es/e722e630c5d4d8a8

[foggy lodge]

And uhh

[forest arrow]

https://pokepast.es/589084cd0408576e

[atomic mural]

heat

[forest arrow]

You wouldn’t really need grass Tera

Terrain help with spore

[atomic mural]

yeah and water makes you resist fire

i understand it now

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/8b5c4de4a08f3a26

[atomic mural]

sigma

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2281991140-0xcrznj6q4xaj7g6q0k83zl4czx6tsapw

lunala is my new best friend

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2281995801-bxx4emftgkp1rqfps1bati4jvb8zpblpw

good heavens,,,,,,

[bold geode]

Bro is figuring out something like a lot of people already did

[spiral ridge]

I was just kidding lol

And other duos with them as a secondary will prob be better than the two together

[atomic mural]

i still remember trying to get iron bundle miraidon to work in the beginning of regulation g

[plain drum]

Uh huh

[spiral ridge]

:(

[atomic mural]

https://pokepast.es/5fb82c4f93e902af guys im so unique with my team

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-gif-21327280

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/hercules-counting-three-gif-13591122

[real prairie]

it was at this point he knew... he fucked up

[molten oasis]

Not the full support no attack fluttermane

With av wtf

[real prairie]

thats what was funny

struggle flutter

[molten oasis]

That HAS to be a joke

[real prairie]

nope, they obviously did not stick around for BO3 and quit after my double nuke lol

[solid frigate]

what the heck is that Fluttet Set

[real prairie]

A mistake clearly 🤣

[solid frigate]

End my Suffering

[real prairie]

Either they hate flutter and wanted to punish it or severely fucked up 🤣

[solid frigate]

their team comp also trash

[atomic mural]

So real

[charred saddle]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2282212155
sashed

[left bobcat]

Man that’s like dumber than me

[left bobcat]

Bro- what were they tryna do with that Tera water

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2282221371-hnss8u2jgcq6a6xuys8ii24n2qsv8trpw

im so lunala pilled rn

[left bobcat]

Damn that’s bros 2nd Lunala

I recognized that team

[torn parrot]

I’m burnt out from ladder havnt played in like 2 weeks

Currently figuring out what I wanna do next

[chrome knot]

pway this lunala team maya

[torn parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/lunala-pokemon-moon-gif-14561596

Looks like a pizza

[plain drum]

[left bobcat]

I’m so hungry

I’m eating rent for breakfast, lunch, dinner

[chrome knot]

ye its a big pizza

[left bobcat]

IS THAT A FOREIGN?

[timber falcon]

What kind of pizzas are you eating

It’s obvious a croissant

[bold geode]

Ew Lunala spam

[chrome knot]

its fun

[bold geode]

Yucky
From stinky person

Girl doesn't believe in Caly Ice anymore

[chrome knot]

i believe in wanting to win

[bold geode]

People doubting Caly Ice
So stupid

Watch
It's gonna win and then everyone gonna be like "oh yeah Caly Ice is so good, I believed in it all along"
No ya didn't

[left bobcat]

It’s just getting boring

Ice rider just became too common

[bold geode]

Once again, your definition of boring and mine are completely different

[left bobcat]

No yours just sucks too much

I’m kidding

[trim hound]

Bet

[torn parrot]

I don’t know if anyone who plays ladder alot doubts how terrifying it is

Guy makes me cry

[vernal shadow]

I've seen a guy complaining about wolf cheating on YouTube. Since I'm new to all this. What is the general opinion ? Think it was verlisify if that rings any bells. Guy seems hella toxic

[left bobcat]

Oh that guy…

[vernal shadow]

Even if he's right. He just insults everyone

[left bobcat]

Eh could care less

[trim hound]

I mean for as much as Verlis is a rumormonger, Wolfe is generally a piece of shit

[torn parrot]

Verlisify just another narcissist who feeds off the drama, but he has an audience

[left bobcat]

I’m not gonna take either of them serious

[torn parrot]

The hell did he do?

[left bobcat]

Its not like the guy is doing anything insane

[vernal shadow]

His points are like "his team his cheated BC it has perfect ivs and things" but even if gened, it's not outside the scope of the games with bottle caps. I asked a question and the guy bit my head off with no backing himself up. Does it all through comment section too 😂

[left bobcat]

Yeah

[trim hound]

He got hit for the hack check at worlds when there was that mass ban

[vernal shadow]

And perfect nature which is also doable

[torn parrot]

Wolfey?

[trim hound]

Ye iirc

[left bobcat]

Those guys are just sum dusty, crusty, musty hoes that need to shower

[vernal shadow]

Lol

[torn parrot]

Why was he allowed to continue?

[vernal shadow]

Poster child maybe ?

[trim hound]

^

It's well known that at the upper crust of Pokemon it gets massively corrupt

[left bobcat]

Duhhhhhhh

Looking back at it I’m glad I didn’t actually invest my time in it

Good thing I never achieved the results I wanted

[trim hound]

Like "Top 32 was all using hacked mons, but we'll just let it through because it's more effort to get 33-64"

[torn parrot]

Iv never really heard of that happening was it mentioned somewhere or was there a list of people?

Like I won’t dismiss but I don’t really have any proof either

[left bobcat]

That’s I’m just like- meh

[vernal shadow]

I basically just told the guy, if he's cheating, just beat him fair and square. Like his teams aren't unfair as in impossible stats and sets so just win I guess. If he consistently makes it too the end, he's still gotta be skilled. If his friends are throwing matches to let him go further, they've still gotta be decent to be in that position. That's my opinion on it

[trim hound]

https://www.reddit.com/r/VGC/comments/15vi18a/freezai_explaining_every_controversy_at_the/

[vernal shadow]

So for the guy complaining. Just get better and win

[trim hound]

TL;DR a shitton of people got caught genning mons

[vernal shadow]

What sort of trace is on them for the game to pick up ?

[torn parrot]

Oh I know I was wondering about wolfey being one them

[trim hound]

People not doing their due diligence to make it legal

[left bobcat]

Wolfeys true form

[torn parrot]

Like is there proof on that

[left bobcat]

Yeah where’s the proof ☝️🤓

[torn parrot]

It’s completely reasonable to ask

[left bobcat]

Well yeah

[trim hound]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P2lqtO4D1ko&pp=ygUKI3F2Z2N5dnlxdQ%3D%3D

He was defending the cheaters

[vernal shadow]

So like the diancie I traded for in this discord with wrong ot, language and ribbon combo. Still bummed about that one 😑

[left bobcat]

Uhhh wth

Oh nvm

[vernal shadow]

gasp

[trim hound]

Yeah, it's shit like this

[left bobcat]

I’m not gonna listen to whatever that mf has to say

[vernal shadow]

I should've checked. Spent weeks shiny hunting in apriballs for it

[trim hound]

hands proof over
it's not approved proof

Just because you don't like the messenger doesn't mean the message ain't true booboo

[torn parrot]

I mean if that’s the only reason
Its a bit of a wild stretch to say he’s cheating

[trim hound]

Not really

Especially with the records he has

[vernal shadow]

His teams been data mined I believe

[torn parrot]

But you shouldn’t go around saying someone is a cheater with nothing but speculation

[vernal shadow]

But like it saves time. Personally I hate gened stuff but realistically it doesn't provide an unfair advantage since u can quite easily get a perfect mon using items now so skill is still definitely needed. Scummy yes but he's not more likely to win BC of it

[left bobcat]

He’s made that point already

Like what else is new

[torn parrot]

And to say someone is a piece of shit on top of that isn’t cool

[left bobcat]

Yeah

Like now you’re really stretching it

Man bro really doesn’t like him

[vernal shadow]

Interesting to see how others feel on this. Sorry if it's annoyed people

[torn parrot]

I just don’t like to see misinformation on the internet

[left bobcat]

I want facts

[vernal shadow]

Do we know the facts exactly or is it people trying to make drama?

[left bobcat]

Because it just makes one look less credible or someone who won’t hope off his meat

[trim hound]

Little bro, I'm from the days where it was assumed everyone was cheating.

So is Wolfe

[left bobcat]

Probably both

[dense latch]

verlisify at least just wants to ensue drama to try to revive his long dead channel

[vernal shadow]

My cousin had a game shark and damn was my b&w full of shinies in masterballs when I was a kid

[dense latch]

genning saves two days or so MAX and it’s not like showdown isn’t a practice tool available for everyone

[bold geode]

If you know what's best
You keep that sorta talk about genning and cheating AND that guy specifically out of this chat

[dense latch]

i just think the whole genning debate is stupid

[left bobcat]

Key word “if you know what’s best”

[vernal shadow]

True. I've already shiny hunted with titles and set EVs and IVs on half my first team in 2 days. Hella proud. Not a good team but it works

[dense latch]

just causes division for no purpose

[left bobcat]

It’s always gonna be like this

[bold geode]

Anyways genning will not be discussed in this server period so I suggest we drop this topic

[vernal shadow]

Can people be banned for discussing others cheating ?

Ah fairs

I was just kinda curious so I asked. It's kinda my bad. Sorry

[left bobcat]

It’s alright

You just didn’t know and now you do

[dense latch]

all good

[left bobcat]

Imma be honest I didn’t know either but no one ever mentioned it so I guess that’s why

[bold geode]

And also keep that one guy outta here, dude is just a cuck for clout and as soon as y'all realize that he is that and that his opinion genuinely isn't worth anything, then you'll know
But keep that talk outta here regardless

[vernal shadow]

I kinda stumbled upon him by accident yesterday 😅

[left bobcat]

Anyways

[bold geode]

Sorry for your loss

[vernal shadow]

So I was mainly asking if he's someone I shouldn't give the time of day

[bold geode]

Yes

[left bobcat]

Uh what was the topic before?

[bold geode]

Basically just
If you know
You know

[vernal shadow]

Super arsey to everyone in comments including myself just picking holes in what he said

[torn parrot]

Well I wanted to argue with reasoning

[left bobcat]

Lettuce not

[bold geode]

Don't even give him that

[left bobcat]

We are better than this

[vernal shadow]

Roger roger 🫡

[bold geode]

Genuinely better if you avoid the topic than to engage in it

[left bobcat]

I guess you can just- DARK VOID the topic

Badum tsss 🥁

[vernal shadow]

I'd been watching a fair bit of wolf recently along side some other stuff to learn doubles better so when I saw some accusations, I was curious and thought I'd pick holes in what he said to see if he could expand which ofc he couldn't and started throwing insults sooo yeah

I'll avoid the Chanel in future

[bold geode]

Yeah
Anyways what was it before we got on this dumbass topic

[bold geode]

Oh yeah this
Nah I see some people saying it's fraudulent due to it not doing well and I'm like "you fools"

Like did we not learn from Miraidon and CSR

[trim hound]

Those are people not looking at Caly-I usage rates at high ELO

[bold geode]

Mainly they're looking at VR tours which do have a good amount of high skill players tbf

So like the source ain't invalid, it's just like

Lemme be clear

The ONLY reason why Caly Ice is struggling is because of MU prep

[dense latch]

honestly it’s good that you brought that up, imagine if you had kept consuming that content. i feel like most of his fans consumed no other vgc content and thus have a skewed and sort of tunnel vision opinions regarding all that drama

also the strong cir players aren’t participating in these vr tours

[torn parrot]

Ye people call things fraud for the smallest reasons

[dense latch]

alex underhill, jeudy, yuta, navjit, basically anyone that day 2d worlds with it

[torn parrot]

people callin things fraud because they arnt trendy at the moment

Or for some vague reason

[bold geode]

Oh no some are
But when a lot of the people doing well is Zam or CSR with decent MUs into it like
What you gonna do

[torn parrot]

“Miraidon not good cus paradox future not good”

[bold geode]

Like even Zam is following now what is probably one of the best CIR comps there is

[dense latch]

terapagos rising also hurts cir indirectly, more terapagos means more zama to counter it

what you’re saying is 100% true too though

[bold geode]

Like not only that but CIR was 2nd at Worlds AND did good in other departments
Only makes sense that you prep for that

Hell my Rayquaza team I tried early December this time
Had like
3 things to fuck with it + Fire Tera on Ray

[foggy lodge]

Tera bug ray

[foggy lodge]

Caterpie

[bold geode]

Why do you hurt me so

[left bobcat]

Tera bug hands

[trim hound]

You didn't need to post this

[real prairie]

There is currently someone on showdown at the 1500 range running alolan muk and it makes me sick

[bold geode]

Now Tera Bug Iron Hands is pretty fuckin good

[foggy lodge]

y

[trim hound]

We could have gone without the brainrot of Tera Bug Ray

[bold geode]

Honestly yeah no

[foggy lodge]

😭

[bold geode]

Real ones don't know the validation of Tera Bug Heatran

[trim hound]

Tera Normal is the only real Tera on Ray

[bold geode]

Or real ones know

[foggy lodge]

But tbh bug is one of the best teras to battle Caly Ice

[bold geode]

Fire is probably alright too

[foggy lodge]

Water or bug are the best

[trim hound]

Ideally you kill what is going to Wisp you

[bold geode]

Honestly tbh your Rayquaza team should be able to not bring Rayquaza to CIR and still do decent

[dense latch]

real meta stuff right here

[bold geode]

Rayquaza should go to that MU the least

[trim hound]

Honestly CIR is why I don't play Ray this format

[bold geode]

Ideally you live more Fire and Fairy attacks and don't get burned by a stray Sacred Fire cuz Entei go hard

[dense latch]

those tera normal espeeds ruin cir teams’ lives if there’s no farig

[bold geode]

I wish Ray Hitmontop which I did was better

[trim hound]

I'd have to calc E-Killer into Entei

[foggy lodge]

Is Yotam still running Rayquaza

[bold geode]

Honestly Ray Pao Ursh ain't bad as offense lol

[bold geode]

No he dropped that shit IMMEDIATELY LMFAO

[trim hound]

252+ Tera Normal should be a kill shot into Entei no?

[foggy lodge]

Oh good

[bold geode]

Hell even I don't believe in Rayquaza anymore

[foggy lodge]

I only believe in the top 10 restricteds

[trim hound]

I've got enough Jack in the house to believe in Ray

[bold geode]

It's problem is that it feels very middle of the road which in a single restricted format you just don't want

[foggy lodge]

Any restricted that is not one of those 10 is just for fun imo

[bold geode]

I could've used you months ago brother ngl

[foggy lodge]

Unless marcofiero gets like top 8 with Zekrom cuz yeah he is that guy

[bold geode]

Zekrom gets TW guys, it's hard

[trim hound]

Idk, my issue with Ray is he is all in, but locked to Clam

[bold geode]

Thank you for not mentioning Meteor Beam

[foggy lodge]

IT GETS METEOR BEAM?

[torn parrot]

I don’t like meteor bean

🫘

[torn parrot]

I totally forgot…

[bold geode]

Brother that was a whole fucking set LMAO

[trim hound]

Meteor Beam

[foggy lodge]

I remember in reg H

Like i was playing this Volc Clefable team

And i leaded Volca Clef into an Archaludon and something more i don't remember

Turn 1 is just quiver dance follow me and then i discover my opp's archa is power herb stalwart meteor beam

And volcarona fucking died

[torn parrot]

I don’t like meteor beam because it’s so one and done

[trim hound]

That's all it needs to be

It kills something and now deal with it