competitive_discussion

[real prairie]

You scared the shit out of me thinking it was today 🤣

[marsh solar]

[solid frigate]

13th

[real prairie]

It opens on the 13th, deadline is 18th

You scared me even more than Emma

[solid frigate]

thats what i do

[real prairie]

🤣🤣🤣

[bold geode]

The sky is blue

Damn server is restarting
Was just about to play game to get to 1400

[torn parrot]

ho-oh is cookable i think

its typing and ability aint even bad ngl

and it has sacred fire

[bold geode]

Bruh I kid you not
All but one of my losses today have been to people who are like
100 ELO higher than me
What is the matchmaking doing rn

[torn parrot]

😔

elo robbery strikes again

[bold geode]

Mean they're only getting like +14 out of it but still

[atomic mural]

would it be a bad idea to run a tornadus with no speed investment

[bold geode]

Not that bad

[atomic mural]

https://pokepast.es/a9a61eb5275f2999 im trying to cook with this

[mint void]

@atomic muraltotally ok but it should probs be tera dark to dodge taunt prankster

[solid frigate]

bro is gonna be Sandy Shock's Strongest Soldier than Araquanid now

[atomic mural]

fun fact: the first team i used a lot was a sandy shocks gravity espathra hypnosis rental team i found

[atomic mural]

sad but true

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2279312972

got back to 1500

[chrome knot]

stinky..,,,

[next stump]

play bo3

[craggy dagger]

but im not

[chrome knot]

hai bubs

[mint void]

fast hypnosis user needed ngl

or sleep powder

some venusaur type shit mby

[bold geode]

I need to do this
But I've just been cranking out BO1s lately

[atomic mural]

https://pokepast.es/e7e2f3aeda690776

i have this at the moment

dont know what the grass move on venusaur should be

or item

[misty helm]

What should I think about myself when my best friend who I introduced to the meta is able to beat my Ev and hyper trained with his Pokémon having with minimal training

Does that mean that he learned from one of the best or does that mean I’m kinda pathetic

[left bobcat]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2279322297

tsk tsk

[tiny karma]

Archaludon's moveset:

Physical Moves

Body Press, Body Slam, Breaking Swipe, Brick Break, Double-Edge, Dragon Claw, Dragon Tail, Earthquake, Facade, Foul Play, Giga Impact, Gyro Ball, Hard Press, Heavy Slam, Iron Head, Metal Burst, Metal Claw, Night Slash, Outrage, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Tomb, Slash, Smack Down, Steel Roller, Stomping Tantrum, Stone Edge, Take Down

Special Moves

Aura Sphere, Dark Pulse, Draco Meteor, Dragon Pulse, Electro Shot, Flash Cannon, Hyper Beam, Meteor Beam, Mirror Coat, Round, Snarl, Snore, Solar Beam, Steel Beam, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt

Status Moves

Attract, Dragon Cheer, Endure, Focus Energy, Hone Claws, Iron Defense, Laser Focus, Leer, Light Screen, Metal Sound, Protect, Reflect, Rest, Roar, Scary Face, Screech, Sleep Talk, Stealth Rock, Substitute, Swords Dance, Thunder Wave

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Archaludon.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[atomic mural]

happens

[mint void]

F

[atomic mural]

i lost to someone who didnt even have 6 pokemon and intimidate on their incineroar

[mint void]

depends tbh if ur team is more than just ev trained and shit

if its a random composition of mons than its we

+he is likely running unpredictable stuff

[misty helm]

Yeah it was random Pokémon composition for both of us

Also I fully trained my Pokémon

[tiny karma]

Barraskewda's moveset:

Physical Moves

Aqua Jet, Assurance, Bite, Bounce, Brick Break, Close Combat, Crunch, Dive, Double-Edge, Drill Run, Facade, Flip Turn, Fury Attack, Giga Impact, Ice Fang, Liquidation, Night Slash, Peck, Poison Jab, Psychic Fangs, Scale Shot, Slash, Take Down, Thrash, Throat Chop, Waterfall

Special Moves

Blizzard, Chilling Water, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Ice Beam, Round, Scald, Snore, Surf, Swift, Tera Blast, Water Pulse, Whirlpool

Status Moves

Acupressure, Agility, Attract, Endure, Focus Energy, Laser Focus, Protect, Rain Dance, Rest, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Substitute

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Barraskewda.

Sableye version 4.28.1

Ability: Propeller Tail

This Pokemon's moves cannot be redirected to a different target by any effect.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[real prairie]

neither learn taunt, boo

[misty helm]

Yeah true he caught me by surprise mostly

And it also wasn’t my usual team that I was used to using

[bold geode]

All I wanna do is get outta 1300s bro
I deadass have lost at 1390s like 5 times

[real prairie]

BO1 or BO3?

[bold geode]

BO1

[real prairie]

fair

whats the team?

[atomic mural]

It I have both tailwind and chlorophyll do I need to run timid on my venusaur

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSk8ta2zYcE yooo araquanid on this team

[foggy lodge]

Yeah its because the paste from santiago had crunch

[mint void]

is Regigigas not a restricted cause of its ability?

[bold geode]

My own spreads on Michael Kelsch's Worlds team

[atomic mural]

https://pokepast.es/318a470f455fdd13 I got this so far

[next stump]

probably

[bold geode]

-calc .5 x .3

[gentle crag]

Result: 0.150000

[plain drum]

[mint void]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAu0LNXBpr0&ab_channel=MoxieBoosted'sGym

[torn parrot]

is there any reason why people prefer latios over latios

or am i thinking it the other way around

[molten oasis]

Idk they’re like the same pokemon or smth

[torn parrot]

yeah mostly

latias is bulkier latios is stronger

[plain drum]

Latios is more of an offensive

[molten oasis]

Dawg I was making a joke about ur typo lol

But yea latios is more offensive and Latias is more defensive, but also doesn’t do enough to warrant use over it

[craggy dagger]

latias also just can’t sustain herself to do damage while supporting unlike latios

[atomic mural]

Yeah I saw that video

[atomic mural]

Because latios is better than latios

[chrome knot]

explodes you with my mind !!

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/parks-and-rec-april-ludgate-sips-tea-tea-tea-time-gif-21816989

[chrome knot]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-bocchi-the-rock-bocchi-the-rock-gif-clap-clapping-gif-27209950

[vernal shadow]

Still toying with a gardevoir team. I'm considering getting it tailwind support maybe trying groudon and jumpluff with chlorophyll or is groudon too weak by comparison to other options this format? Or Whimseycott with prankster instead so I don't need sun maybe 🤔

[torn parrot]

thank you I GET IT NOW

[gentle crag]

mayahoppins has given 1 Gen Rep to cornyplays

[atomic mural]

“I understand it now”

I’m glad I could be of assistance

[torn parrot]

Literally my hero

[craggy dagger]

you did when you said that latias got lunar blessing

[chrome knot]

duuude

why do you even remember this

and i don’t even remember what i saw that made me double take 8 times

but that happening is tied to a creep so id also not wanna recollect it 🙏

[craggy dagger]

oh
sorry

emma emma
i need help
what do i do with my 4 boxes of shiny flutter mane

[plain drum]

Mass release in Home /s

[craggy dagger]

i could-

[atomic mural]

heyy

may i have a spare

jk i dont need one

[craggy dagger]

[vernal shadow]

I'm probably doing pretty bad at this. I am adamant on gardevoir dispite it not being particularly good. Not quite sure what restricted or my 6th should be.

I'm not very good at team building at all

[atomic mural]

just saying protect dosent work if you have assault vest

[vernal shadow]

Ye I kinda swapped. I had calm mind on too and caught that one. Forgot about protect

I was thinking of trying salac berry like I've done for battle tower before but gardevoir would die before hitting 1/4 in most cases I think and still wouldn't have enough speed if it lived so I think av would probably be better with some sort of speed support

[mint void]

LOL

[vernal shadow]

Thinking of having both trick room and tailwind depending on what the opponents team is

I think I've seen AV ursaluna before but I feel gardevoir needs it. I guess I could put life orb on it but I don't have high hopes on its damage. Unless I put healing wish on it with life orb so it can attack or sack itself to heal something better

[mint void]

@vernal shadowsash or scarf probably have to be it

[vernal shadow]

Or that. Scarf doesn't get it the speed it needs tho and locks it too a move.

Sash maybe tho

What restricted would be most beneficial here ? Still cylarex ?

Or something completely different?

[shadow wind]

Now this is not the number I wanna see

[atomic mural]

I dont have to worry about that with my team im building

https://pokepast.es/8c81cdb91bd04b4e also i need help deciding the last move on flutter mane

[shadow wind]

I've also been experimenting with Gravity but not shocks

Icy wind is usually what I would run as a last move

Flutter Mane @ Choice Specs
Ability: Protosynthesis
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 100 HP / 92 Def / 132 SpA / 4 SpD / 180 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Moonblast
• Dazzling Gleam
• Shadow Ball
• Icy Wind

Usually what I run as a set

[atomic mural]

ill just use that for now then

[shadow wind]

Outspeeds Chloro Venu

[atomic mural]

nice

now I just need to figure out my 6th team member

[shadow wind]

AV Chi yu?

Actually scarf is better

[atomic mural]

tera ghost right

[shadow wind]

Yeah

Or fire if you're greedy

[atomic mural]

nah

ghost is better in the long run

[shadow wind]

Yeah no fake out or fighting

[atomic mural]

heat wave that never misses in the sun is good enough

and overheat

[shadow wind]

Overheat
Heat wave
Dark pulse
Snarl

Usually my go to moves

[atomic mural]

already put those moves

[real prairie]

is it usual for Scarf Chi-Yu to not be max speed?

[atomic mural]

just figuring out the spread

[real prairie]

beat one earlier because i outsped with scarf Kyogre over its scarf

[shadow wind]

They'll usually run modest but imo timid is always the best choice

[real prairie]

even modest scarf max speed id have thought was faster than Kyogre

[shadow wind]

80 base speed compared to 100

Were you max speed scarf?

[foggy lodge]

FIRE BLAST🔥🔥🔥

[atomic mural]

chi yu with max speed modest choice scarf is 228

kyogre timid choice scarf max speed is 234

[shadow wind]

BOUNCE 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[atomic mural]

kyogre is 6 points faster

[real prairie]

yeah, its a requirement to outspeed and OKHO caly shadow in weezing teams

[atomic mural]

https://tenor.com/view/chiyu-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-gif-27146657

[real prairie]

Noice!

[shadow wind]

Ah ok

[left bobcat]

Special attack Koraidon 👍

[real prairie]

also nice to know tera water water spout + fake tears OHKO's tera'd Terapagos even outside of rain

[atomic mural]

do i run timid or modest chi yu

[real prairie]

depends, do you want to outspeed scarf kyogre? 🤣

[atomic mural]

well i have better pokemon for kyogre

[real prairie]

i was kidding because i just asked that Q

[atomic mural]

like my venusaur with both sludge bomb and leaf storm

so even if they go tera grass i still have super effective stab

[real prairie]

I don't think id stay in against venosaur lol

[atomic mural]

well just having it is good

[shadow wind]

I've seen meteor beam power herb tera rock Koraidon

[shadow wind]

Just run timid

Punishes greedy scarfers

[atomic mural]

https://pokepast.es/46963dbfb53c2dfeso so like this

[shadow wind]

😔

[atomic mural]

huh

https://pokepast.es/b5b9f37f2afde794

does this one work

[real prairie]

why bother with HP investment if you are sash anyway?

[atomic mural]

i dont want a special attack protosynthesis boost

[real prairie]

ah right, i forgot that about Proto

[shadow wind]

And could be used for surging strikes calc

Potentially

[real prairie]

clever

[shadow wind]

252+ Atk Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Chien-Pao on a critical hit: 135-162 (87 - 104.5%) -- approx. 18.8% chance to OHKO

252+ Atk Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Chien-Pao on a critical hit: 126-153 (81.2 - 98.7%) -- approx. 2HKO

[atomic mural]

252 Atk Mystic Water Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 44 HP / 4 Def Tera-Ghost Sandy Shocks on a critical hit: 126-147 (75.9 - 88.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[left bobcat]

I’m about to surprise yall with something

As soon as the match starts and is over

[atomic mural]

252+ Atk Mystic Water Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 44 HP / 4 Def Tera-Ghost Sandy Shocks on a critical hit: 135-162 (81.3 - 97.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[shadow wind]

And that's why you always put 4 defense evs in for Pao

[real prairie]

i just realised i had mine in SpDef, but it i was still surviving SS

[shadow wind]

Lots run Jolly

[atomic mural]

252 SpA Tera-Ghost Calyrex-Shadow Rider Astral Barrage vs. 44 HP / 4 SpD Sandy Shocks: 138-164 (83.1 - 98.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[shadow wind]

252 Atk Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Chien-Pao on a critical hit: 126-147 (81.2 - 94.8%) -- approx. 2HKO

[real prairie]

but 4hp covers for both i guess

[shadow wind]

Sorry for spamming all the calcs by the way

[real prairie]

its a competitive chat 🤣

[plain drum]

We love calcs

[shadow wind]

Yeah but they are pretty long

[real prairie]

and we learn

[shadow wind]

Take up space

[plain drum]

Crunch all the numbers

[real prairie]

its good stuf

[shadow wind]

It's like when people put a team without making it a paste

[atomic mural]

https://tenor.com/view/vgc-chi-yu-chiyu-pokemon-pokemon-vgc-gif-3695565211953008975

[real prairie]

no, thats more jarring

[plain drum]

I really don't think it's that big of a deal, especially for people who are able to read them fast they just move on

[left bobcat]

Ugh this guy is taking forever

[plain drum]

Then they disappear from immediate thought

(The calcs that is, the non-paste teams are awful)

[real prairie]

TBH lots of people only read the chat whilst as far as they can see on their screen anyway

[shadow wind]

Ah ok

[real prairie]

its why after 10 messaages you have to explain what you were talking about to someone new 🤣

[shadow wind]

Guys it's getting better

[left bobcat]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2279400298-thc624kx9qtlsxt6rab4k2zq17dj8u4pw

[shadow wind]

Only 12% lower than expected ‼️

[left bobcat]

specs koraidon

[real prairie]

is there a worth just running wide-lense Groudon?

[shadow wind]

At this point

Maybe 😔

I'd still miss

[real prairie]

should start adding double misses too

those are the really painful ones

[shadow wind]

Well I count each individual hit

Some bad streaks

[real prairie]

so you can work out the math from that

[left bobcat]

Specs Koraidon something they never expect

[shadow wind]

Yeah cause it sucks

[left bobcat]

Let’s see how this will go next match

[shadow wind]

Bro is the luckiest man I have ever seen

How does one just hit 2 focus blasts

I also guess I could play safer and actually set up gravity

How does Marilland not have Gouging fire yet bro

They have Raging bolt

[left bobcat]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2279404646-gpze6n2t1apsvl2wvsnnjjmnl5vzb1jpw

[real prairie]

Tera ground choice band Gravity Pblades 🤣

[left bobcat]

i did it again incin dead at one focus blast

[real prairie]

would just to not be out sped ever lool

[shadow wind]

My gravity dude is slow

[left bobcat]

and cres just died to sun boosted specs overheat

no tera needed this is funny

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/sableye-hide-pokemon-lurk-lurking-gif-27019782

[atomic mural]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2279403182-c1uk1dqut6su8x88vo9tm641e6swwpjpw

game 1

game 2 https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2279404608-0olog5okcx6h0tiy18symmau9csz16epw

[real prairie]

I really feel, especially on Showdown there is issues with some of the accuracies

Spread moves seem to miss more often imo, whilst i seem to hit a LOT of my Hydropumps

[left bobcat]

Actually I take that back I did use my Tera

That was an accident

[shadow wind]

Nah

[atomic mural]

tera ghost focus sash sandy shocks almost just guarantees i get gravity up except if I get prankster taunted

[real prairie]

or slapped by spread moves

[atomic mural]

true

[real prairie]

whilst testing different teams earlier i lost to someone running close combat Caly Ice

https://tenor.com/view/cool-copshow-gif-18469614

my reaction

[real prairie]

speaking on that, After 4 days of trying to change my team and getting worse and worse and worse, Ive gone back to my v1.0 team and got it up to 60% win rate 🤣

[atomic mural]

Game 1: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2279408461-88ecna3kgf3cqk2qvumvmklp1dulaflpw

Game 2: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2279410093-fpjff24ix8hpjrrolu8320eu1gaqlzcpw

[real prairie]

Jolly or Adament Rapid Urshu more common?

[atomic mural]

id say adamant

[real prairie]

guess depends if they are sash or scarf

can see sash being Jolly

[atomic mural]

i can see that

[left bobcat]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2279412220-mbrbz1gwiauxo2duj2a5k596puq878mpw

damn

[atomic mural]

which one is you

[shadow wind]

Sandy shocks actually kinda puts in work

[atomic mural]

ik

[shadow wind]

Personally I use a different Gravityer

[atomic mural]

which one

[torn parrot]

Weakness policy solgaleo be like

[atomic mural]

i might replace thunder on shocks

but for now im gonna keep it

[shadow wind]

The Zong

[atomic mural]

i can see that

on a groudon team?

[shadow wind]

Of course

[left bobcat]

Choice specs Koraidon 💀

[molten oasis]

May just switch to just rivals cuz this format and the amount of incin is no fun whatsoever

[shadow wind]

I only use Groudon

[atomic mural]

lol

[molten oasis]

I can have a team of 5 anti incin things and Zac and still lose so why bother

[shadow wind]

I literally have never used anything but Groudon

[atomic mural]

Regulation I gonna be your format fr 💪

[next stump]

adamant is far more common

[molten oasis]

No because incin just gets better again

The stronger the mons the stronger incin is

[torn parrot]

other games are defintely infinitely more feel good and fun than vgc

[next stump]

if you're scarf, you still outspeed caly-s. If you're sash, you may as well be adamant since you can live one hit guaranteed

[atomic mural]

ok but kyogre zacian

[molten oasis]

I have shifu and lando you can just pivot into rilla or amoonguss and the game is doomed

Because the incin doesn’t have to come back out until Zac comes on the field

It’s not fun man, I hate fighting double fake out+amoonguss/shifu every game and feeling so incapable of doing anything about it

[atomic mural]

yeah i can imagine that

feels bad man

[torn parrot]

If regigigas was literally just slow on start it would probably be insanely good

[atomic mural]

trick room first then tailwind late game💪

[molten oasis]

Yea the teams I make are always just bad into double fake out and that’s on everyone’s team

[torn parrot]

Actual menace

[atomic mural]

do you try using farigiraf?

[torn parrot]

Can probably add things that beat that stuff

[molten oasis]

Farigiraf sucks with zacian

[atomic mural]

i see

[torn parrot]

Could fake out with your own fake out too

[molten oasis]

The only thing it offers worth value is anti fake out

Cuz it does nothing for zacian anywhere else

https://pokepast.es/7fe43571f7eaae72 told by multiple people that this is a good team and I just can’t pilot it if my life depended on it

Because “wowie I clicked fake out with incin and then cycled back in to ruin your life”

[torn parrot]

I get the frustration tho

I use anti priority a lot
Whenni choose not to bring it shit gets really annoying on those fake out cycle teams

[molten oasis]

And all I can say is skill issue cuz I just suck at fighting them

Can’t keep pressure if you can just pivot spam into a very physically heavy team

[foggy lodge]

Which mons do you absolutely want to have

[molten oasis]

Why

Idk shifu pon and moon

Whole point was to play moon

[torn parrot]

I mean I understand the weaknesses it might have

[molten oasis]

I hardly bring pao and lando just exists

[foggy lodge]

I remember i tested rain zacian

Zac Urshi Peli Roaring seems good to me

[molten oasis]

Rain Zac

The most boring fucking archetype for Zac of all time

The only archetype I played all of last reg g

And that does nothing for miraidon

So idk about that one chief, let me cool off before suggesting anything

[atomic mural]

take your time

i took a break for the entire regulation H era

[molten oasis]

Peli isn’t on any of the top Zac teams

Cuz slow tailwind sucks

[atomic mural]

but i sadly didnt watch Wolfey Con Perish

I wish i saw it live

[bold geode]

Bro don't bring that back

[atomic mural]

I just learned of its existance like 4 days ago

I spent my entire break watching the entirety of dragon ball, dragon ball z, and dragon ball super

[bold geode]

Yeah it's dead now
And good thing it is

[bold geode]

Ok actually valid
What about GT though

[atomic mural]

i didnt feel like it

[bold geode]

Not the worst thing tbh

[atomic mural]

i understand ssj 4 gogeta is cool

[bold geode]

GT is like alright
Definitely not as good as the other DB animes
Though idk about Daima yet

[foggy lodge]

Isn't GT not canon?

[atomic mural]

daima is canon

[bold geode]

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhh don't know actually

Probably made it not canon when Super came out

[foggy lodge]

I remember that it was something exclusive from anime

[atomic mural]

it might be canon? it does take place after the end of z right

[bold geode]

Cuz they tied it to DBZ

Bro was training Uub at the start

[atomic mural]

im pretty sure they said that super did not retcon the end of dbz

[bold geode]

Google did an AI overview that said this

[atomic mural]

well it does make sense because if it was canon goku just refused to go UI and vegeta refused to go UE

[bold geode]

Honestly I feel like they either

1. Was not made canon cuz it wasn't from a manga
2. Just did like Crash Bandicoot did with Crash 4 where they just pretended a bunch of games after Crash 3 just never happened

So they're saying Daima is canon but like

That last paragraph
So they're just refusing to go UI or even Super Saiyan Blue there?

Cuz idr seeing anything about them doing so

[atomic mural]

thats just wrong

if daima took place after super trunks and goten would have been older

[plain drum]

Why are we giving a voice to Google AI lol

[atomic mural]

i thought they said it took place after the majin buu arc

[bold geode]

I was finna say like
Bro I know they ain't say "oh cuz they're kids or whatever" but like hell they did that with GT
They made Goku in his kid form go fuckin 3 LMAO

I think it's a year after Majin Buu
Which tbf idk when Super starts in that timeline

[atomic mural]

Spoilers: ||vegeta going ssj 3 was so hype||

[bold geode]

I mean idk I'm literally just bored lol

[plain drum]

Fair enough, misinformation can be funny

[bold geode]

I saw that, honestly that just made sense
I was like why make him do all this other shit but just keep him from being able to do that

Though tbf knowing Vegeta it also would've made sense if he strayed from it due to the toll it takes

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/aa58b537c6243b6f have fun with this core cuz idk what to do with it

https://tenor.com/view/mr-fantastic-reed-richards-fantastic-four-marvel-marvel-rivals-gif-12425045216179934485

Gonna go do smth else

[bold geode]

When in doubt, haha

[atomic mural]

i still need to play marvel rivals

also @molten oasis why is your pfp the villain from turbo

[left bobcat]

To the left to the left

[molten oasis]

It’s funny

[left bobcat]

Is that foreign?

Yeah

[molten oasis]

Wish I could just call this team fantastic but it’s not

[left bobcat]

Uh huh

[bold geode]

Drago when seeing Incin: guess I'll die

[molten oasis]

Correct, because incin is the bane of my existence and im awful at doing anything about it even with 2 anti incin mons

Skill issue and I haven’t learned anything

[left bobcat]

Drago-

Is

🐦

[atomic mural]

Game 1: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2279427617-tdwess3di4ftyuhnfwwls8ls7gann73pw

Game 2: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2279428687-rremkxegeodald3ugtak2o2th9eyteqpw

Game 3: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2279430845-bib6bqg5mhwuuuhgt9q8pxe1uqxqqnvpw

not bringing groudon into game 2 was just dumb

[atomic mural]

better than me

[molten oasis]

Probably not

[atomic mural]

ah yes drago is an angry bird

https://tenor.com/view/meme-angry-birds-jumpscare-gif-24181642

[bold geode]

The description bro

[atomic mural]

wolfey playing cobblemon is so peak

[atomic mural]

https://pokepast.es/b4570cb387008978 you would never build this kind of team (it sucks)

[bold geode]

Just no

[atomic mural]

https://pokepast.es/04d3b5cfc270ec2c dont worry i have a team thats alot better

[molten oasis]

Yea because double fake out is so fucking boring to play

But I can’t beat the most common core of 2024 so what can I really say about it

[atomic mural]

erm actually its 2025

[still ridge]

Question for chi-yu, if I'm going scarf and I want psychic as an option for urshifu and snarl for caly-shadow, what should the other 2 moves be? I'm thinking heat wave + overheat or dark pulse

[atomic mural]

heat wave and dark pulse

is what i would do

[lofty tartan]

It isn't

[atomic mural]

that means i dont have to watch it

[lofty tartan]

Daima, however, is canon

Takes place like 5 years after the Buu Saga

[bold geode]

Wasnt it a year? When does Super take place then

[atomic mural]

i believe in a new supremacy now

sandy shocks insanely underrated partner for groudon

[molten oasis]

Might be good to just let the moon go at this point, positive mu into CSR was cool while it lasted

[atomic mural]

bro wolfey already got 2 legendary pokemon summons already in his cobblemon live stream

[lofty tartan]

Sorry yeah, it's one year after the end of the Buu saga, and three years before Super. But Super was initially stated to happen directly after the defeat of Kid Buu so honestly their whole timeline is screwy right now lol

Daima has already made a lot of things in Super make no sense though

[atomic mural]

Game 1: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2279441598-32tgdq9tzqgsuuqb28kjbapsv64e96ypw

Game 2: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2279443136-xqb0a95tt7d52p94avwg1h2sykm8s4fpw

im really liking this team

[atomic mural]

Game 1: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2279451130-x3rja0jrehyll2d7thng88v5u035cotpw

Game 2: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2279453223-5rhhp0s4ad00io3zxc4e1160ml6vujapw

[torn parrot]

I find peliper to really honestly be menace when there’s trick room in the back

[little scaffold]

Anybody have a max IV ditto they'd like to trade?

[mint void]

@little scaffold nonono

[atomic mural]

you can just hyper train

[mint void]

Wrong chatty

[little scaffold]

Sorry!

[mint void]

The apple is gonna visit u now

[little scaffold]

Do you happen to know Which chat?

[mint void]

Its to late for sorries

Check my roles

Cant link u

[atomic mural]

just lost a set because in game 1 i didnt attack into amoongus

and that was it

[left bobcat]

Aloneeeeeeeuh

[atomic mural]

Game 1: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2279463825-377yoohnobwwxo1e78i8ethr5pxs5qzpw

Game 2: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2279464834-aiwus7mhpic5gb0u8bvr1bn1tmxsbtppw

[mighty stump]

@bold geode No fuckjng way its the apple man

[bold geode]

Holy shit bro I've wanted to meet him for so long

[mighty stump]

HAHAHAHH

[left bobcat]

The pain

[balmy glen]

[bold geode]

Bro I swear the apple man is just like a classic for no reason

[bold geode]

Stupid ass game
I target fucking Whimsicott
It Encores me into Body Press
And then my Zam for some reason even though I targeted the Whims WENT INTO THE CALYREX SHADOW

[atomic mural]

feels bad

[bold geode]

Low-key pisses me off
Still probably would've lost but that basically took any chances I had away from me

[atomic mural]

if it happened to me i wouldnt have a switch anymore

[bold geode]

My opponent said Encore got weird interactions? Idt it should make Zama target a whole other Pokemon

@mighty stump can you confirm?

If I target a Pokemon with a single target move and they Encore me into another move, does that make me target the other Pokemon?

[atomic mural]

i bet its random

[mighty stump]

What

Its not random

[atomic mural]

ok good

imagine it was random though

[bold geode]

Ok so my game just tweaked tf out ok

Just another thing I lost to today that was completely out of my control

[atomic mural]

was it showdown or switch

[mighty stump]

Did the other slot die.

[left bobcat]

Yeahhhh

[bold geode]

No
They swapped in Caly Shadow and Encored my Zam that was targeting a Heavy Slam into the cotton ball
So by that, I would have to use Body Press into the Whimsicott right?

[mighty stump]

Oh

Did you target the other slot in the previous turn?

[bold geode]

No way that's how it works

[foggy lodge]

That also happened me in one game

[still ridge]

can confirm, encore is a stupid move

[mighty stump]

I cannot quite remember the specifics but at least I know there is an interaction with regards to how the targeting works.

So

[bold geode]

Why tf would it redirect shit like that

[foggy lodge]

Like i targeted heavy slam into whimsicott to cover all options and i thought oh even if they click encore it dies because it was in low HP

And it heavy slams a Hands

[mighty stump]

The reason I know this is because of the VWave/BM + Encore tech

[bold geode]

Well now I have to play out my fuckin mind to go on cuz I'm at 2-2 now

[mighty stump]

You can't guarantee targeting and I think that forced the target of the slot directly opposite of you or it was the previosuly targeted slot

[bold geode]

Previous target

[mighty stump]

Yeah

Soz I can't be more specific but it is a known thing

But it's definitely not random

[bold geode]

Idt it should work like that lol
But it do so

[left bobcat]

Yeah

All that mhmm

[plain drum]

Encore has gone back and forth between generations as to whether or not an affected Pokémon can choose its target but as far as I know the current standing is that it should be able to

[mighty stump]

You definitely can

You still select the move and target technically. It's just on the initial application of the Encore turn is where it gets wonky

[plain drum]

can’t quite figure this out

[bold geode]

Aight 3-2
Just gotta win this last round to cut

[atomic mural]

oh are you in a tournament

gl

[plain drum]

I see where it has happened on cart for SwSh too

I don’t know how true this is (I guess it is to some degree, because this is the same scenario here from what I understand) but the theory I see is if you’ve used a different move and *then* get Encored your target for that turn is perhaps random

Sauce: https://www.reddit.com/r/VGC/comments/re7aik/hey_man_why_did_encore_change_my_target/

But I very well could be misinterpreting and you have my apologies if that’s the case

[left bobcat]

Wop

[bold geode]

Nah the addiction gives me serotonin

[left bobcat]

Put your hands up high

[charred saddle]

time to play scamhoyo game and swipe your cards heh

[boreal mauve]

#730 Primarina Water <:water:772863431534444595> / Fairy <:fai:772863431488307221>

Misc. info

Generation VII
Gender Ratio:
87.5% ♂️ / 12.5% ♀️
Height/Weight:
1.8m / 44.0kg
Catch Rate:
45
Egg Groups: **
Water 1
Field**

Base Stats

HP: 80
Atk: 74
Def: 74
SpA: 126
SpD: 116
Spe: 60
Total: 530

Abilities

Ability 1:
Torrent
Ability 2:
​
Hidden Ability:
Liquid Voice

Dens

Sword: Unknown
Shield: Unknown

Provided by Nexus-Z

[mighty stump]

What are we cooking

[charred saddle]

ill cook your ass

[near crag]

In your opinions, is master ball the average ranking? Or something along the lines of ultra, great, or even lower?

[untold urchin]

@thorny beacon gets to master ball and he's very average

[thorny beacon]

everyone in this channel should be minimum master ball unless you aren't which means you're not in the channel

[untold urchin]

But I'm in here

[thorny beacon]

yeah fuck off

[untold urchin]

Not until I see Monke and get told I'm stinky again /s

[thorny beacon]

welcome to master ball tier brick

show us your team

[thorny beacon]

Thanks man, very cool 👍

[gentle crag]

mxnujen has given 1 Gen Rep to bizraika

[untold urchin]

welcome

is very good team, all 6 vgc epic mons do big damage and wins

[gentle crag]

bizraika has given 1 Gen Rep to mxnujen

[knotty mirage]

I say average especially when 90% people in there use cheese strat to win instead of skills

[chrome knot]

waow wait til you see my team of 6 urshifus

[next stump]

it depends where in master ball

players don’t really start to get “good” until maybe top 1000-2000

[near crag]

Wow, that’s a lot. It’s like the 0.3% of players

[bold geode]

Stinky bitch

[next stump]

there’s usually tens of thousands of people in master ball tier

along with countless others not in master ball

so yes, the average (aka 50th percentile) player is probably low low master ball tier (like rank 10,000+)

[left bobcat]

wtf

[mighty stump]

Theres also like

120k sth players at a time or whatever

So

Like Dillon said

Things dont get good til you get near the top

[balmy glen]

@next stump gl getting drafted, it’s in an hour in sd room btw

[next stump]

thank you 🙂 how do I find that channel

[balmy glen]

I can link it in here if u @ me to remind me

They will prob put it in NPA discord tho

[dull ibex]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2279700795 crazy gazme

[atomic mural]

💪

[left bobcat]

💪

[solid frigate]

i see

[balmy glen]

groudon= free online tour money gotcha

will be spamming it

[chrome knot]

LOL

[vernal shadow]

Anyone fancy a challenge ?

[foggy lodge]

There is a Sneasler

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-silly-car-car-stare-10-thousand-yard-stare-10-thousand-yard-gif-14200271775968563996

[mint void]

groudon has a decent MU into mirai

[atomic mural]

[balmy glen]

drafted for 17k in NPA

[chrome knot]

W

[torn parrot]

Hmmmmmmm

Sneassslerrr

[atomic mural]

i see a lack of sandy shocks (this is not good)

[torn parrot]

I hope Sneasler wins

And I hope dire claw sleeps every time

Bitches

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-26069546

[atomic mural]

[real prairie]

I'm "good" lol

[bold geode]

What the Sneasler doin

[bold geode]

Yeah so uh
It ain't gonna do that

Look what it's with

[foggy lodge]

The Sneasler is in top 4

Istg

[torn parrot]

FFFUUUUUCK

[bold geode]

Methinks it's probably some Acid Spray shit

[torn parrot]

Kind of unfortunate partner for dire claw

😔

[bold geode]

Once again
Probably Acid Spray stuff

[foggy lodge]

I doubt it is

I don't think Miraidon really needs a -2 SpD drop to kill xd

Unless is like Rillaboom but dire claw

[next stump]

ill see if i can find the OTS

[bold geode]

I mean
It's either that or Gunk Shot

[molten oasis]

There’s a sneasler?

Copium?

[foggy lodge]

I don't know if they are even streaming the tour or something

[torn parrot]

WIN SNEALER

WIN FOR ME

YOUR SO CLose

I swear to god if Sneasler wins I’ll laugh so hard

[next stump]

yeah RIP I cannot find the OTS

[torn parrot]

How can we check the progress

It just goes invisible

[next stump]

https://battlefy.com/victoryroad/victory-road-january-challenge-2/677b9b1df85f80005a3585ba/stage/6783e3825ee46f0075b77beb/bracket/

[bold geode]

Yeah idt it's that good tbh still

[torn parrot]

Yeah some of the names don’t match up

[foggy lodge]

HE IS IN FINALS

[torn parrot]

MY BITC

[foggy lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/ace-attorney-phoenix-wright-ouch-ow-gah-gif-9094581517662355559

[torn parrot]

MY BITCH IS THE FINALS

GYAAAAA

WIN SNEASLER

MY REG H QUEEN

THEY SAIDBYOU WERE COPING
FUCK EM BITCHES

https://tenor.com/view/anya-anya-forger-anya-anime-anime-power-power-up-gif-11674960516942148883

[bold geode]

Cuz it is
It's gonna be good once now and then just dip probably

[foggy lodge]

I mean we all knew it was gonna be tested atleast

[bold geode]

For sure
I knew it was probably gonna be on Miraidon too even though that goes against the strength

[foggy lodge]

Tbh I don't care too much about Sneasler having a niche with Miraidon

Like

We have a lot more tools to control it

[bold geode]

Actually tbh when I saw Sneasler mention I expected it more actually to be on the Caly Psyspam team

[torn parrot]

I’m curious of the set

Probably throat chop

Well who knows tbh

[foggy lodge]

Probably

[untold urchin]

Bitch I said /s

-# you’re stinky

[foggy lodge]

Pressures Calys

[torn parrot]

Yeah

[foggy lodge]

Like idk

Tera dark electric seed protect CC dire claw throat chop

Tho like

What's the item on Farigiraf

[bold geode]

It can't be Dire Claw tbh

[foggy lodge]

It absolutely can

Think about it

One of the ground types that beat both is Lando and Lando doesn't touch the terrain

[bold geode]

@next stump
https://www.youtube.com/live/y9HUpkqjlUM?si=TQzK3M0Wi4jRZHqM
1:16:09

Setup for a stream set where the streamer is playing against the Sneasler

[next stump]

holy shit it has gunk shot

[foggy lodge]

Oh it's gunk shot

Nvm we are saved

[next stump]

https://pokepast.es/f8d55a7d622860ab

[bold geode]

https://pokepast.es/f8d55a7d622860ab

Oh I see lol

[atomic mural]

bro understands it now

[bold geode]

So are we just gonna skip over the Dark Pulse Tornadus or

[atomic mural]

ah hell nah 💀

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/45mice/status/1878238258477343211

45mice (@45mice) on X

As of right now likely bringing 2 <1% Pokémon to San Antonio. Godspeed and bonus points if you guess one of them 🫡

Twitter · Jan 12, 2025, 12:31 AM

https://x.com/SanvyVGC/status/1878434864984195400

Sanvy (@SanvyVGC) on X

"we need more villains in the vgc community" is a crazy thing to say in a world where clicking "look for a battle" has a 50% chance to queue you into this

Twitter · Jan 12, 2025, 1:32 PM

[dense latch]

my last room tour opponent told me my team was a big “fuck you” to dondozo

i’ve never felt prouder

[balmy glen]

sorry abt not getting into NPA but I might draft you for NPAA @next stump

im managing

[next stump]

all good 🙂 I didn’t expect to be since I don’t have any connections to the managers really

[torn parrot]

sneasler won Uwu

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/VGCVictoryRoad/status/1878536631759642825

Victory Road VGC (@VGCVictoryRoad) on X

Congratulations to 🇩🇰 Frederik Høj Nielsen (@Hoej_HS), winner of the VR January Challenge #2! 🏆

Frederik takes home $790 for the win! 💸

Thank you to all players for joining us this weekend! 🚀

📖 Teams, stats & all info: https://t.co/ZVqhc46dlL

Twitter · Jan 12, 2025, 8:16 PM

BWAHSAHSHSH

[bold geode]

Sneasler is still trash

[foggy lodge]

Let's just wait until the irl tours

[bold geode]

Yeah that for sure

[foggy lodge]

I think it needs to prove being good in irl tournaments

[bold geode]

I learned that like these VR tours honestly have like 85-90% accuracy on what actually will take place in the circuit

[foggy lodge]

It was gunk shot so meh its not a rng bs thing

If they are playing gunk shot idc about sneasler being used

[bold geode]

Things change from just VR to Birmingham

[foggy lodge]

mhm

[solid frigate]

am i gonna be the test subject

[foggy lodge]

yes

You are bringing Miraidon Sneasler to birmingham wuuu

https://tenor.com/view/mr-peabody-hypnotize-gif-18017563854157472082

[solid frigate]

nah

Iron Crown go brr

[bold geode]

Nah Sneasler ass

Like good for them on winning but like
I'll wait for Birmingham
But even then I think Sneasler is just not it tbh

Probably a case of someone just
Doing good with something

[molten oasis]

If it pops up a lot and does well then sure

[torn parrot]

uWu

heh

[molten oasis]

I’d rather it not regardless of what I use

I hate it lol

[mint void]

Imma probably make 1 of every Top Restricted teams for Rentals. Im kinda bored the next weeks so why not shiny hunt whatever I can

[torn parrot]

LETS FUCKING GO

yayyyyyyy!

[dense latch]

congrats!

[charred saddle]

[craggy dagger]

tera figh-

[spiral ridge]

Resist darkshifu?

[torn parrot]

tera blast lol 🐇

[spiral ridge]

Ohhh

That makes more sense :)

[craggy dagger]

i’m curious on the moveset you ran on that-

cuz shadow likes its stab moves

[spiral ridge]

Uh

[torn parrot]

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/teams-of-the-week-week-25.3727451/page-2#post-10403089

[spiral ridge]

Ima guess astral psychic tera blast protect

[torn parrot]

the paste should be here

[spiral ridge]

I WAS SO CLOSEE NOOO

[charred saddle]

theres also a paste of maya's team in the VGC repository

[bold geode]

👍

[bold geode]

Waddup stinky

[charred saddle]

im about to poop

[craggy dagger]

oooo

[charred saddle]

wanna see monke?

[craggy dagger]

that looks fun to play

[spiral ridge]

Looks interesting yah
Taunt shifu spotted

[bold geode]

Let's fucking go chat

[chrome knot]

LOL

[craggy dagger]

wait how does sneasler miraidon work

[chrome knot]

it uses gunk shot

[craggy dagger]

wasn’t the main point of fire claw the sleep?

[chrome knot]

there is no dire claw

[craggy dagger]

oh

[tiny karma]

Move: Gunk Shot

Has a 30% chance to poison the target.

Type

Poison

Category

Physical

Power

120

Accuracy

80

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[spiral ridge]

Ah

[craggy dagger]

i assume to take care of rillaboom n stuff-

[torn parrot]

gambler move

[molten oasis]

So is sneasler real now or is it cope

[real prairie]

Just lost on cart to the most bo1 team Ive ever seen

Donzogiri team but the tatsu has storm drain

[chrome knot]

@balmy glen what day is npaa draft

[balmy glen]

Feb 1st or 2nd

[chrome knot]

bet ty

[balmy glen]

We just opened up signups and that’s only weekend with no events so yea

[chrome knot]

🫡

[foggy lodge]

It was me sorry

/jk

[foggy lodge]

mhm

252+ Atk Sneasler Dire Claw vs. 44 HP / 12 Def Tera Fairy Miraidon: 150-176 (82.8 - 97.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Sneasler Gunk Shot vs. 244 HP / 132 Def Flutter Mane: 147-174 (91.3 - 108%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO

Secures KOs on bulky Ogerpon or those things

[mint void]

5agging so I can look at it ltr

[left bobcat]

Od

[rustic mountain]

i say cope

[molten oasis]

Mk

[bold geode]

Mad cope

[left bobcat]

Haha no

[shadow wind]

I tracked the last 100 Precipice Blades

Kill me

[atomic mural]

dang

https://pokepast.es/d66207e30d497b2f as the groudon expert, what would you change

[shadow wind]

Anything you struggle with?

[atomic mural]

trick room

[shadow wind]

Yeah HO Groudon usually does

Hmm

You could go bulk up on Groudon

I myself love HH

But it does well into CIR, atleast better than HH

[atomic mural]

i love losing games over double protects

[craggy dagger]

ya might want thunderbolt instead of thunder

sun maks thunder 50% accurate

[tiny karma]

Move: Thunder

Has a 30% chance to paralyze the target. This move can hit a target using Bounce, Fly, or Sky Drop, or is under the effect of Sky Drop. If the weather is Primordial Sea or Rain Dance, this move does not check accuracy. If the weather is Desolate Land or Sunny Day, this move's accuracy is 50%. If this move is used against a Pokemon holding Utility Umbrella, this move's accuracy remains at 70%.

Type

Electric

Category

Special

Power

110

Accuracy

70

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[atomic mural]

wow

[torn parrot]

One time

A kyogre clicked thunder against me in the sun

And then it landed
And crit
And paralyzed me

[atomic mural]

i forgor 💀

[molten oasis]

Accurate

[shadow wind]

You mean

Inaccurate

[molten oasis]

You’re so right

[atomic mural]

i guess i should go thunderbolt

[molten oasis]

I’ve only missed like 3 play roughs this reg so far

Which is, not normal

[shadow wind]

Ok so going back to TR help

It's probably mainly CIR right?

[atomic mural]

i havent fought a single caly ice yet

[shadow wind]

What other TRs are there?

[atomic mural]

lunala

[shadow wind]

Ah Lunala

Yeah Lunala is shockingly annoying

[young idol]

zammazanta is the best competitive pokemon..

[shadow wind]

https://tenor.com/view/ace-attorney-phoenix-wright-objection-capcom-gif-20965907

Calyrex Shadow Rider

[atomic mural]

https://tenor.com/view/ace-attorney-phoenix-wright-objection-capcom-gif-20965907

[shadow wind]

Ah frick my pen just exploded

Why do they even have that tiny little white bit

Anyway

I would say

Maybe ditch the Chi yu

I've personally never had any success with Chi yu Groudon

[torn parrot]

Coping meaning being in denial of the truth that Sneasler just won a tournament in reg G Uwu

[shadow wind]

It could be swapped out for a tanky AV fire mon

[dense latch]

it's a decent pin into tera fire cir

[shadow wind]

If you can hit

[dense latch]

also fun fish booms

[shadow wind]

I just suck at using it

[torn parrot]

Saying Sneasler coping in this tournament like saying socks keeping your feet warm is coping

Just denying the reality that a guy can perform a job on a team

[shadow wind]

I expect it to do double 100% every time

It doesn't

Even helping hand + specs + tera fire + sun boost doesn't 😔

Ok that dude running tera ground Caly Shadow is so annoying to play against

[dense latch]

lmao i played that guy too

definitely an interesting choice for a tera type

[shadow wind]

Makes sense

Miraidon

[atomic mural]

LETS GOOO

[shadow wind]

Also he runs like 3 different teams

One has Amoonguss

[atomic mural]

(first time ever btw)

[shadow wind]

LETS GO!!!

[atomic portal]

damn just saw this

https://tenor.com/view/bros-bro-high-five-dillon-duke-gif-12955092

[craggy dagger]

ooo
good jobbbbb

[atomic portal]

drunk honeyfuchsia is a better teambuilder than sober honeyfuchsia @torn parrot

[craggy dagger]

you made that team while you were drunk-

[atomic portal]

i saw the latest episode of one piece and it featured a pink haired guy who punches hard

[dense latch]

so that's the secret to getting better at teambuilding

[craggy dagger]

i’m speechless
-# (in a good way)

[atomic portal]

i looked at pink fighting type mons while drunk and pawmot was pink

maya did all the smart edits and straightened the rough parts

[spiral ridge]

Lmao nice

[craggy dagger]

but still
it’s pretty impressive to come up with a working core that fits niche pokemon

[atomic portal]

u r the homie

u always positive and good vibes in here

[craggy dagger]

i’m ngl
i wanna just revert to normal standard teams but-
that team might have just given me the push i need to keep going with my current team

[shadow wind]

Man sometimes I forget that Neutralizing gas stops ALL abilities

Even sturdy

[dense latch]

honestly real

[torn parrot]

Yeah he made the four core drunk lol but I really liked it and the concept behind it

And then I finished the rest of the team and polished up the sets after testing a bunch

[shadow wind]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2280053721

Statistically, always thunderclap all 8

[chrome knot]

always

my sucker punch game is 6 in a row bc I know theyll get bored before I do

[shadow wind]

Exactly

And sometimes you gotta take a little bit longer

For no reason other than messing with them

[chrome knot]

start making faces

look worried, act like you're unsure what to do

little do they know you're ALL IN on red from 4 sucker punches ago

[shadow wind]

Done been

[chrome knot]

[shadow wind]

I swear you hit 1600 on ladder and the game decides you're done

All you see

[molten oasis]

have fun kek

[torn parrot]

The his bullshit makes me cry

[shadow wind]

Right cause I forgot they do that

[bitter phoenix]

As someone who is disenfranchised with the whole core Pokemon battling system and the way how Pokemon are handled in games, I did the logical thing and reworked the entire battle system and the very core of what makes a Pokemon an individual.

Is there a channel that I can post the rework in?

[rustic mountain]

im cool w/ waiting on irl tours to show its not good

[torn parrot]

Its not that it’s outstanding amazing

It’s that you all saying it’s coping directly after it wins 800 dollars by getting first place

Like clearly it worked on a team

Not that it’s meta defining or anything

[rustic mountain]

i dont see it as something to be concerned about in the grand scheme of reg g, it can have its moment at the beginning of the format returning grassroots tour and cool ig but thats my stance

[molten oasis]

latios won a regional

i still think its an okay mon

it won and then it was never really seen much afterwards

[torn parrot]

Nah I agree

[balmy glen]

My amoongus says welcome back

[molten oasis]

if it performs well in a few regionals then like sure

but why sneasler when shifu exists

or hands, or both

[rustic mountain]

and yea also if i wind up being wrong ill fully admit that but as of now, sneasler does not seem like a good choice given the format

[balmy glen]

Sneasler is a fighting type that deals with Rillaboom so if people’s only counter is like Rilla switching you just out pace

[molten oasis]

ok, i still dont think its good

[torn parrot]

When it comes to a pokemon like latias or Sneasler I don’t think they’re gonna be picking up the big wins often but i think it at least deserves some respect for the accomplishment

[molten oasis]

i get why it was on that team, plus that

i still wouldnt consider it under normal circumstances

[rustic mountain]

im not really taking away from the players win, more that sneasler is not gna be much of anything as reg g really makes its return

[molten oasis]

we'll see what happens, id still rather have a shifu 99% of the time

[spiral ridge]

“All on sleep”

https://tenor.com/view/roulette-game-gif-6892854051717800041

[whole ibex]

Anyone wanna Vc?

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

yo okidogi?

[left bobcat]

Oki dOG ki

[whole ibex]

It is interesting

[balmy glen]

What made u want to run Brian’s team

[chrome knot]

psyspam click buttons @ locals

[left bobcat]

Demons

[chrome knot]

cir needs more refinement

[left bobcat]

Eewwww

Cir

[chrome knot]

ok

[bitter phoenix]

No? ok.

[torn parrot]

its fun for some imagination but

probably best for a different channel

[left bobcat]

It don’t not mattah

[shadow wind]

Man I'd give up too

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2280072852

[bold geode]

Idt we should be talking about that kinda stuff in this server
Though I hope you are having fun and drinking responsibly

[left bobcat]

….

THATS IT?

Well a win is a win

[dense latch]

what an absolute tank

[left bobcat]

Also they’re using caly shadow so well deserved

[shadow wind]

Bronzong my goat !!!

[shadow wind]

What were they gonna do

[dense latch]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2280001128-iy3fazf0796igmmuihrcu8vfosn06wqpw you guys wanna see some bad luck

[left bobcat]

At least try to fight back

[shadow wind]

Hey I played them earlier

[shadow wind]

Why?

Can't even have pblades luck save them

[dense latch]

maybe their opponent was tilting a bit and that was their breaking point lmao

[shadow wind]

Definitely

I beat them earlier too(also lost but I won the bo3)

[left bobcat]

Pierreeeee

I’d be sad too

[shadow wind]

Yikes

But CIR

So deserved, sorry

[dense latch]

:((

[left bobcat]

Enough is enough

[dense latch]

but eleki

[shadow wind]

Lando cancels that out

[left bobcat]

IVE HAD IT WITH THESE MFING CALYREX

[dense latch]

that's gotta be like five plus points

[torn parrot]

Is this a new team you’ve been working on?

[dense latch]

yea

[torn parrot]

Hella hype

[dense latch]

im addicted to the cir eleki lando core i've just been trying to find the last three

[torn parrot]

How’s incin been

[shadow wind]

I'M ADDICTED TO GROUDON !!!!

[dense latch]

pretty nice actually

[left bobcat]

I’m addicted to dawn wings

[dense latch]

i know most phys restricteds run camulet but intim is legit so nice into ogerpons, rillas, iron hands etc

burning everything is pretty fun too

[shadow wind]

When you hit

[dense latch]

yep

so not much

[foggy lodge]

gang

I want to make P2 Caly Ice work

[left bobcat]

Ogerpon is really starting to become an even greater threat

[foggy lodge]

I need help

[left bobcat]

And I’m all for it

[shadow wind]

I'm using Rockpon even though it's a sun team

[left bobcat]

A lot of people are

[shadow wind]

Rock grass is nasty offensively

[left bobcat]

Did something happen?

[shadow wind]

Not to my knowledge

[left bobcat]

Like 2-3 days ago I’ve seen a lot of rock pons

[shadow wind]

I just like it for sturdy and follow me

[left bobcat]

I’m like oh NOW y’all wanna use rock pon

[shadow wind]

I've done been using rock pon

[torn parrot]

Incin has always felt so nice af feels like a comfy pick

[left bobcat]

Granted I mostly use hearthflame

But I use rock pon for my Lugia team

[shadow wind]

I used this team way back when

June 24th

[torn parrot]

I feel like rock oger picked up in G due to the value of not being one shot going up

[foggy lodge]

Pretty much

[shadow wind]

Dang June 24th was a while ago

Back when I thought fire punch cooked 😭

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/6121a57715aedbf9

[left bobcat]

I thought people train their Ogerpon to be at least decently bulky

[foggy lodge]

Ideas for this?

[molten oasis]

p2?

[foggy lodge]

also dumb request but uh not Urshifu and Raging Bolt on this team

[molten oasis]

probably incin

[shadow wind]

Dang I really like barely not making top cut

[left bobcat]

But now I can see why rock pon sturdy is good

[foggy lodge]

Because i need those two for locals😭

[foggy lodge]

hmmm maybe

I was thinking of Hearthflame

[torn parrot]

I don’t even remember u using a gambit

[left bobcat]

More investment in speed and offense will at least being able to take 1 hit before dying

[shadow wind]

I spammed AV gambit

[molten oasis]

incin p2 amoonguss was proven to be pretty damn strong last reg i see no reason why not to try that here

[left bobcat]

FOUL PLAY

[shadow wind]

Used it here too

In my first and only tour win

[left bobcat]

I have not seen one kingambit

[shadow wind]

I have

[left bobcat]

Well recently

[molten oasis]

i saw one, i won lol

[dense latch]

i really need to get some teams built on cart im missing out on many limitless tours

[torn parrot]

I’m just lazy and nervous

[shadow wind]

Limitless tours are sick

[left bobcat]

I’m just lazy in general

[shadow wind]

Until they're at 5 am

[dense latch]

everytime i build a team i get sick of it the day after

good thing is i have a few mons evd already from back in swsh

[left bobcat]

I got school bs so showdown is just there

[torn parrot]

Do the jug one it made me cry

[chrome knot]

i dont think i even live in the same timezone as my brain rn

[shadow wind]

Will never forgive them

[molten oasis]

roar archaludon lmfao

[dense latch]

oh yea jug is long gone

no more nightmares for u

[torn parrot]

😔

[shadow wind]

Nah roar is legit

[left bobcat]

I’m so confused

[shadow wind]

And stalwart

[chrome knot]

legit trash 😭

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2280081334-t3y9f0btxr5e0rzjzby5d3svkow891ppw

[shadow wind]

Hey it's got a niche there

[molten oasis]

he's "cookin" trust

[shadow wind]

I mean

It's pretty cool

I used roar a little back

[dense latch]

wow that body press did nothing lmao

[shadow wind]

Being able to punish stuff for protecting is pretty good

It can also force people into awkward positions where they have to naked switch

[left bobcat]

Hmmmmm what was the one weird move I was using last year?

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh damn I can’t remember

[shadow wind]

Power split

Speed swap

[left bobcat]

No

It was something else damn why can’t I remember

[foggy lodge]

Typing

[left bobcat]

Welp seems like I forgot

But damn I remember it was something funky

[shadow wind]

Check the builder?

[left bobcat]

Oh no those are long gone

[shadow wind]

Rip

Bro purged

[left bobcat]

There were some teams that I never saved and pasted to my server

Mostly because I was fried

[shadow wind]

None of mine are saved to the server

[left bobcat]

I just know it had something to do with smeargle

[chrome knot]

ok lunala is kinda fun...

[shadow wind]

Lunala is sick

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2280084565-tpwnzmudjebladg48iru1x5g1snepripw

[shadow wind]

It's just too fair

[left bobcat]

Hell yeah

[chrome knot]

im a meanieweanie

[shadow wind]

NOT GROUDON

[left bobcat]

I’m more of a dawn wings warrior than I am with the rest of the restricteds I use

Last year I was mainly Kyogre

[shadow wind]

Ok that guy was an idiot