competitive_discussion

[wide lark]

Slightly worse than dragon steel id say tho

[left bobcat]

Offensively no

Defensively eh barely

Rock types aren’t that relevant

Ground types like lando maybe

[wide lark]

1 more weakness, but trades poison immune for the much better burn immune

[foggy lodge]

True

[left bobcat]

Well it depends on the attack archetype

[foggy lodge]

Sadly the restricted dragon/fire type is a special attacker lol

[wide lark]

But only one dragon fire has truly used the typing well

[foggy lodge]

Doesn't care about intimidate atleast

[wide lark]

not reshiram lol reshiram sucks in the formats hes allowed in

Gouging fire

[foggy lodge]

i think he was used in sw/sh¿

Or was it Kyurem white i don't remember

[humble cedar]

but offensively its shite

[wide lark]

Black kyurem

[humble cedar]

gouging fire is goated

[left bobcat]

That’s a ice dragon

[wide lark]

I love gouging fire

[craggy dagger]

i mean they usually have coverage moves

[tiny karma]

Dragalge's moveset:

Physical Moves

Aqua Tail, Bounce, Dive, Dragon Tail, Facade, Feint Attack, Flip Turn, Frustration, Giga Impact, Gunk Shot, Iron Tail, Liquidation, Outrage, Play Rough, Poison Tail, Return, Scale Shot, Secret Power, Tackle, Take Down, Thief, Waterfall

Special Moves

Acid, Acid Spray, Bubble, Chilling Water, Draco Meteor, Dragon Pulse, Focus Blast, Hidden Power, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Icy Wind, Mud Shot, Mud-Slap, Muddy Water, Round, Scald, Shadow Ball, Shock Wave, Sludge Bomb, Sludge Wave, Snore, Surf, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Twister, Venoshock, Water Gun, Water Pulse, Whirlpool

Status Moves

Acid Armor, Attract, Camouflage, Confide, Double Team, Endure, Hail, Haze, Protect, Rain Dance, Rest, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Smokescreen, Snowscape, Spite, Substitute, Swagger, Tail Whip, Toxic, Toxic Spikes, Venom Drench

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Dragalge.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[wide lark]

I was running a dual screens gouging fire lead for most of my teams towards the end of the last reg g

[craggy dagger]

eternatus gets fire moves to cover the steel type wall
i guess dragalge doesn’t though

[left bobcat]

No stab tho

[craggy dagger]

eternatus doesn’t need stab to do damage

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 890: Eternatus

Types

Poison/Dragon

Abilities

Pressure

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

140/85/95/145/95/130

Total

690

Other Formes

Eternatus-Eternamax

Sableye version 4.28.1

[craggy dagger]

145 special attack

[wide lark]

It gets focus miss

But thats not fire

[humble cedar]

eternatus dos NOT need stab LMFAO

i dont even remember the last time i actually saw someone use a poisin move

[craggy dagger]

lmao yeah

[humble cedar]

or even dynamax cannon

i always just see flamethrower and meteor beam

[wide lark]

On eternatus? Ive seen people use toxic

[humble cedar]

yea but thats not really a stab attack is it

[wide lark]

But that was for the really stally sets

Well technically toxic does get a STAB boost, but not in the conventional way

[left bobcat]

Oh yeah the toxic/cosmic power Strat

[wide lark]

Toxic doesnt check accuracy if used by poison types, and can hit pokemon in fly, dig, ect.

[left bobcat]

They even add fire spin to the mix

[craggy dagger]

it’s a stall mon too

140 hp

[left bobcat]

Sure does explode to expanding force

[wide lark]

If eternatus' defences were higher he would be an avengers level threat

Or ig it would be

Gotta adhere to the genderless alien pronouns

[left bobcat]

Hmmmm

Wonder what eternatus would classify-

It is just a giant hand-

[wide lark]

Go on...

[left bobcat]

Well that’s it

It’s just a giant hand

Almost like master hand

[wide lark]

It identifies as a boss health bar

[left bobcat]

Nuh it’s a gigantic

[charred saddle]

/dt

[tiny karma]

Move: Water Shuriken

Hits two to five times. Has a 35% chance to hit two or three times and a 15% chance to hit four or five times. If one of the hits breaks the target's substitute, it will take damage for the remaining hits. If the user has the Skill Link Ability, this move will always hit five times. If the user is an Ash-Greninja with the Battle Bond Ability, this move has a power of 20 and always hits three times.

Type

Water

Category

Special

Power

15

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

20 (32)

Priority

1

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[craggy dagger]

i’d like to present

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 890: Eternatus-Eternamax

Types

Poison/Dragon

Abilities

Pressure

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

255/115/250/125/250/130

Total

1125

Base Species

Eternatus

Sableye version 4.28.1

[spiral ridge]

1125

[rustic mountain]

well if u want it to be

idk wat the goal would necessarily be tho, getting to mball is pretty easy even w/ a bad mon like hydrapple

[chrome knot]

tree wanna see my team

[rustic mountain]

sure

[chrome knot]

I need a new raging bolt lol

[left bobcat]

Why?

Is the one you have broken?

[chrome knot]

just in an ugly ball

[left bobcat]

Ah

[craggy dagger]

what ball

[chrome knot]

love

ultra ball is current

i going to get it in love ball lol

[dapper crag]

https://pokepast.es/294754091c0e9256 could someone explain to me how to use this team, like opening lineups?

[left bobcat]

Idk depends on the opponents team

But I guess you can start with grimsnarl

[dapper crag]

So kind of flexible, then? I know Groudon is obviously a must…

[left bobcat]

To set up screens at the start of the battle

[dapper crag]

So Grimmsnarl and Tornadus start for setup and tailwind?

[molten oasis]

Human Rights my favorite name for Sylveon

[left bobcat]

I guess so

If you want to set up tailwind someone’s gotta go

2 supporters in the field ain’t gonna really do much

[chrome knot]

trans rights are human rights

[molten oasis]

You’re right I just think the name is funny lol

[plain drum]

[rustic mountain]

oh in game team

[chrome knot]

ehehehe

[rustic mountain]

some good choices

[left bobcat]

Some good choice specs

Badum tsssss 🥁

[chrome knot]

i was in call w @spiral ridge and i was like..

“switching in dragonite just to feel something”

then she said something about how i wanted to relive missing scale shot

and then i missed scale shot immediately,,,,,

[rustic mountain]

[chrome knot]

i also uh

[rustic mountain]

can u really beat that rush of ur heart skipping a beat seeing the animation skip

[spiral ridge]

:3 I manifested it and regret nothing

[chrome knot]

forgot tulip had OPPORTUNIST on her espathra.

[plain drum]

Rip

[left bobcat]

For some reason I kept forgetting scale shot isn’t 100% accurate

[chrome knot]

so i gave her +2SpAtk and my skeledirge was no longer…

[rustic mountain]

tulip the goat

[chrome knot]

she cooked me with that

[left bobcat]

No rotom microwave?

[balmy glen]

youll never have more of a heart attack while using sacreds fire with my laggy switch with my entei

animation takes a good 5 seconds

to start up

[rustic mountain]

[shadow wind]

Dude you hit into a Terapagos once and think your career is over

[chrome knot]

run sets tmrw

are u busy at all

[torn parrot]

i wish goodra was my mom

[plain drum]

[knotty mirage]

[balmy glen]

nah other than lots of gaming for team tournaments am chilling cuz there’s massive fires in Cali rn

[molten oasis]

Y

[flint marten]

looking to maybe get into playing a little competitive does anyone have recommendations on an easyish team to build and play to start off

[still ridge]

I got uncomfortably close to losing to feint tinkaton >.>

[knotty mirage]

It just feel really bad when losing to something stupid because you get caught off guard on close team sheet

[mint void]

labMaus or

https://cut-explorer.stalruth.dev/

Give you options for already made teans that did well.

[mint void]

Id say there are simpler archetypes than others but easy is probably the wrong term for using any team.
Just find a restricted you like and get a team u are comfortable with for it.

If you need more help for team building or matchup specifics just drop in here again

[real prairie]

does wide guard move before fakeout?

[tiny karma]

Move: Wide Guard

The user and its party members are protected from moves made by other Pokemon, including allies, during this turn that target all adjacent foes or all adjacent Pokemon. This move modifies the same 1/X chance of being successful used by other protection moves, where X starts at 1 and triples each time this move is successfully used, but does not use the chance to check for failure. X resets to 1 if this move fails, if the user's last move used is not Baneful Bunker, Burning Bulwark, Detect, Endure, King's Shield, Max Guard, Obstruct, Protect, Quick Guard, Silk Trap, Spiky Shield, or Wide Guard, or if it was one of those moves and the user's protection was broken. Fails if the user moves last this turn or if this move is already in effect for the user's side.

Type

Rock

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

10 (16)

Priority

3

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Snatch

Affected by Snatch.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[molten oasis]

No

[tiny karma]

Move: Fake Out

Has a 100% chance to make the target flinch. Fails unless it is the user's first turn on the field.

Type

Normal

Category

Physical

Power

40

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Priority

3

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[molten oasis]

Oh nvm, same prio depends on the speeds

[real prairie]

good to know

[digital plover]

Can someone tell me how to those annoying stall teams in the battle stadium. I building a team to counter it but any suggestions?

[balmy glen]

not a lot of peeps in here play singles battle stadium sorry

[digital plover]

How did you know it was singles ?

I thought battle stadium has doubles as well.

[balmy glen]

because you said annoying stall teams

theres no such thing in vgc

[mighty stump]

Cosmic Power Eternatus checkmate

☠️

[knotty mirage]

Bruh i almost lost to imprison caly ice good thing the fucker don't have protect imprisoned

[balmy glen]

?

thats not even like

[dull ibex]

tofu did you hear about wilds?

[real prairie]

Just learnt Regigigas gets Wide guard... good to know

[mighty stump]

Yes

[real prairie]

whats the common spread for Caly Ice? 252 HP 0SpDef?

[dull ibex]

demo 2 is hype

[left bobcat]

4 sp def

I personally invest a little more in spdef

[real prairie]

cheers

was trying to figure out if it was worth all my dancing around TR or not

turns out no

i can nuke it with helping hand water spout

[real prairie]

A series of events

[cyan smelt]

What did U use against him

[real prairie]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2277233947-tu5itxl9gi7czqlbdomcc1m3acyd1jnpw

i lost against the same opponent leading the same mons earlier on

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2277226785-u4xbx2lrbf6jirmh931az0rgtms98gmpw

took notes, came back and won 🤷‍♂️

[cyan smelt]

Tera grass chi yu? Is that for urshifu?

[real prairie]

no idea, not my team lol

[foggy lodge]

252 HP 60 SpD

I think he needs that to survive Miraidon specs electro drift/draco meteor in terrain

i don't think he needs 252 atk or too much investment in physical defense

[foggy lodge]

Urshifu/Amoonguss

[chrome knot]

the humble rillaboom

[humble cedar]

I hate caly ice

what's ur calyS set i wanna make a new psyspam team

[bold geode]

Monkey stronk

[chrome knot]

cir my beloved

[humble cedar]

no shot ur in momentum mod

that is a such a niche server I would never expect to see another mm player outside of that server

[chrome knot]

pfft

bhopper :3

[humble cedar]

I like to surf

and mm is the smoothest surf experience

I'm not good I'm like a t2/t3 surfer

[chrome knot]

oah

how long have you been playing?

[real prairie]

50 games of ladder today, not good enough tbh 😦

need to change something

[humble cedar]

since forever idk

back in the day trying to beat surf utopia in a public server with a million people

[lofty tartan]

Tsareena doing some massive carry there

[real prairie]

tbf if i gave Whims helping hand instead of fake tears it'd probably do the same 🤣

but being able to negate fake out >>>

F*** the Rocky Ogre

[humble cedar]

raging bolt and flutter mane giving u some trouble too

[real prairie]

late game bolts usually give me trouble if they have already killed my Tserena and have it stalking in the back

Flutter are just wankers

Go W/ TW to try outspeed it and it TRs, Go without TW and its Proto boost speed 🤣

Kyogre is only good for one thing 🤣

My math is right that fake tears = double damage, helping hand is only 1.5 right?

[spiral ridge]

Ogre usually spread moves tho no?

[real prairie]

yeah, but if ive gone into a match up with 2 mons that resist Kyogre, im in the wrong match up 🤣

[spiral ridge]

Yknow

Fair point

Is this just trying your best to get full hp water spouts off?

[real prairie]

making sure the things i hit with Water Spout actually die 🤣

[spiral ridge]

Very few things live that lmfao

[real prairie]

Yeah, trying to work out what i can change in my team to improve the win rate. Wondering if helping hands w/ Whimms is a better option than Fake Tears

[spiral ridge]

Honestly

Maybe just swap whimsi for like torn or another tw setter who’s good in rain

[real prairie]

its an option, but Encore has got me out of some jams in the past.

[spiral ridge]

Torn vleakwind 100% accuracy is really powerful and covers for grass. Would have an electric issue

[real prairie]

retains an ice issue, gains an electric issue.

also pretty much forced into Tera dark infront of opponents whims due to Encore/Taunt

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 898: Calyrex-Ice

Types

Psychic/Ice

Abilities

As One (Glastrier)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/165/150/85/130/50

Total

680

Base Species

Calyrex

Sableye version 4.28.1

[spiral ridge]

It has less spd at least

[spiral ridge]

If you’re talking torn you can also just
Kill that damn whimsi

What kinda kyo is this can you protect?

[real prairie]

I suppose Protect Torn is an option, not one id considered

i just immediately think Cloak

Protect, TW, Scaryface, Bleakwind?

[spiral ridge]

I meant protect kyo

Kill whimsi

[real prairie]

im scarf'd

its why i get so many WaterSpouts off lol

[spiral ridge]

Ahhh HO kyo that tracks

If you’re OTS

[real prairie]

you are losing me with the anograms, ngl

im old

[spiral ridge]

Actually what I was about to say would come down to speed nvm

[spiral ridge]

Hyper offensive, open team sheets

[real prairie]

yeah, essentially

[spiral ridge]

Rain dance over scary face btw

[real prairie]

Need to practice more OTS before next week, these results have been CTS

What about Switcharoo on Whims instead of Fake Tears? Could really mess with OTS scarf'd mons

boop, you are slower

[spiral ridge]

With whimsi MU you could check during OTS if sash or cloak to know whether you one tap or need to double attack

[spiral ridge]

Feels too chancy for me

[real prairie]

maybe im weird, but my whims tends to survive one bleakwind 🤣

on 2% HP mind you

[spiral ridge]

Hm

Honestly for this

You may need to just do origin pulse instead

If you can live

And if not then switch it out

[real prairie]

im running Hydropump over Origin because of Wide guard 😅

could bring back Origin i suppose

[spiral ridge]

Uh

Thunderbolt ice beam?

[real prairie]

Thunder

i have the rain soo

this is probably easier lol : https://pokepast.es/9bf73e0c8f3b894c

[spiral ridge]

Yeah thunder oops

[real prairie]

I rarely find myself clicking Ice Beam with 2 other Ice type attackers, maybe i drop that for Origin and have the spread option

[spiral ridge]

Also you could run a taunt user if wide guards an issue

Say like Zama you could taunt and parting shot Zama to get your kyo in

[spiral ridge]

Could swap chien for something else

If I’m guessing right what it’s for darkshifu can be good too

[real prairie]

Would whims Taunt have the same priority as Wide Guard?

or is WG +2

[humble cedar]

wg is max priority iirc

same as protect

[real prairie]

and fake out, right

[humble cedar]

fake out is less than protect

protect is +5 fake out is +4

[real prairie]

fake out same as WG though

[humble cedar]

then comfey healing moves are +3

[tiny karma]

Move: Wide Guard

The user and its party members are protected from moves made by other Pokemon, including allies, during this turn that target all adjacent foes or all adjacent Pokemon. This move modifies the same 1/X chance of being successful used by other protection moves, where X starts at 1 and triples each time this move is successfully used, but does not use the chance to check for failure. X resets to 1 if this move fails, if the user's last move used is not Baneful Bunker, Burning Bulwark, Detect, Endure, King's Shield, Max Guard, Obstruct, Protect, Quick Guard, Silk Trap, Spiky Shield, or Wide Guard, or if it was one of those moves and the user's protection was broken. Fails if the user moves last this turn or if this move is already in effect for the user's side.

Type

Rock

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

10 (16)

Priority

3

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Snatch

Affected by Snatch.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[real prairie]

Wide Guard is 3 too

[humble cedar]

is it really

[tiny karma]

Move: Fake Out

Has a 100% chance to make the target flinch. Fails unless it is the user's first turn on the field.

Type

Normal

Category

Physical

Power

40

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Priority

3

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[humble cedar]

wow that's rough

[real prairie]

Fake out too

[humble cedar]

wait so is protect +4

[tiny karma]

Move: Protect

The user is protected from most attacks made by other Pokemon during this turn. This move has a 1/X chance of being successful, where X starts at 1 and triples each time this move is successfully used. X resets to 1 if this move fails, if the user's last move used is not Baneful Bunker, Burning Bulwark, Detect, Endure, King's Shield, Max Guard, Obstruct, Protect, Quick Guard, Silk Trap, Spiky Shield, or Wide Guard, or if it was one of those moves and the user's protection was broken. Fails if the user moves last this turn.

Type

Normal

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

10 (16)

Priority

4

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[real prairie]

Yeah

[tiny karma]

Move: Extreme Speed

No additional effect.

Type

Normal

Category

Physical

Power

80

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

5 (8)

Priority

2

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

Move: Follow Me

Until the end of the turn, all single-target attacks from the opposing side are redirected to the user. Such attacks are redirected to the user before they can be reflected by Magic Coat or the Magic Bounce Ability, or drawn in by the Lightning Rod or Storm Drain Abilities. Fails if it is not a Double Battle or Battle Royal. This effect is ignored while the user is under the effect of Sky Drop.

Type

Normal

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

20 (32)

Priority

2

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[spiral ridge]

You’re swapping kyo in after taunt

It wouldn’t matter next turn

You could encore wide guard too and do thunder spam

[real prairie]

If it has the same priority it wouldn't need to be next turn was my thinking lol

but its not so it doesn't matter lol

I tend to Encore wide guard yeah

but then am relying on other mons to clean it up

[spiral ridge]

That works then yeah

Taunt just would let spout go crazy

[real prairie]

yeah, maybe i go taunt+Encore

go full disruption Whimms

i have taunt on Incin but its slower so that doesn't matter

[spiral ridge]

Oh

You do then never mind most I said lol

You can use taunt there if that works for you

[real prairie]

maybe i drop taunt on Incin, go parting shot, Taunt with Whims, parting shot into Kyogre

[spiral ridge]

Wait you aren’t running parting

Yeah please do that as I go look at this team again

[real prairie]

nah, found myself never clicking it lol

[spiral ridge]

Why such an offensive incin spread with no flare blitz

If you wanna use taunt on this make it bulkier and more disruptive

Parting

[real prairie]

oh those aren't right 🤣 good spot

[spiral ridge]

I don’t get ludi here it’s encore and fake out with meh damage that’s just jncin and whims job

[real prairie]

its supposed to be this:

[spiral ridge]

And groudon is popping up more something with rain dance is importsnt

[real prairie]

Ludicolo is my bestie, the aim of Birmingham is to become the highest ranked Ludicolo player

small but achievable goals lol

[spiral ridge]

Ah it’s one of those goals

[real prairie]

maybe after i have a few tournaments under my belt ill go a lot more committed to winning the whole thing 🤣

[spiral ridge]

I don’t know incin spread well but I feel like more balanced defense spreads is prob better

I’m dumb but this just feels wrong

@bold geode I know you’re online rn what do you think

[real prairie]

its intentionally spread that way to survive a surging strikes

[foggy lodge]

what does that atk investment do

[bold geode]

Plz no

[real prairie]

the Atk investment is to hit Caly Ice harder

[spiral ridge]

Yeah

[real prairie]

can ditch the atk investment tbh

its not critical

[spiral ridge]

You have chien

[foggy lodge]

Invest more into special defense

[spiral ridge]

If you want a consistent CIR attacker do darkshifu

[foggy lodge]

I don't think Inci needs more than like 44 atk

[spiral ridge]

Yeah

Honestly if you’re so fast attacking

Do either choice band darkshifu or sash stellar

[real prairie]

mmhh

options indeed

Thank you all btw

your help doesn't go unappreciated

Jolly or Adamant Urshu?

[chrome knot]

real

i started in 2015

[craggy dagger]

EVs: 236 HP / 4 Atk / 100 Def / 156 SpD / 12 Spe
Adamant Nature

iirc this also does that with sitrus recovery

[timber falcon]

Anyone have a bulky roaring moon set?

or any ideas on what to ev it for

[charred saddle]

but isnt sitrus incin like kinda no good for reg G

[timber falcon]

Incineroar @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 244 HP / 188 Def / 76 SpD
Impish Nature

• Knock Off
• Will-O-Wisp
• Parting Shot
• Fake Out

i think this is the brady smith set for it

[charred saddle]

rocky huh

i kinda feel goggles incin rn is the way

[timber falcon]

probably, but ive been struggling with surging strike a lot

[charred saddle]

tbf incin isnt the solution to shifu in the first place

[real prairie]

Feel Tera Ghost isn't as useful nowadays

[timber falcon]

not really an answer i guess but a punishment

[real prairie]

My spread survives a surging strikes, with or without the S-berry. I just like to have that extra bit of recovery

[charred saddle]

its good to play around CC/FO

especially since incin is usually slower than rilla

unless ur turbo incin

[real prairie]

guess i have less need with Tserena

avoiding a fake out seems like a bit commit for a tera though

understand it on sash mons

[charred saddle]

its a way out, ur still more likely to tera something else

[craggy dagger]

viability of cresselia in reg G

[real prairie]

yeah fair, i like tera water as Caly Ice teams don't seem to have a counter to it

[real prairie]

Ive seen some usability, usually as a TR setter/healer

it can heal through protect sooo

[charred saddle]

mom are you pulling for lappland alter?

[craggy dagger]

you’ve got to be kidding me-
when is she dropping .-.

wait i thought we had the summer event first?

[charred saddle]

oh you havent seen that?

yeah its still kinda a long way

[craggy dagger]

ah ok nvm then
i thought she was soon

[real prairie]

this team for example struggles with Water Incin

[charred saddle]

theres still pepe narantuya, dunmeshi collab, siege alter, then lappy alter

[craggy dagger]

i’m kinda broke

[charred saddle]

i thhink still 4 months?

[timber falcon]

3 resistance

how does it struggle

[craggy dagger]

no way to remove it from the field

[real prairie]

not a lot of damage to it

[timber falcon]

amoongus not helmet?

[real prairie]

even so its 1 knock off

[polar canyon]

Thoughts on swampert?

[timber falcon]

hurricane peli

[charred saddle]

even if its rocky, incin also wont be hitting it so much

incin main selling point is just be annoying

[timber falcon]

fairy type iron valiant with booster i assume

[craggy dagger]

i can’t imagine the incin not liking hurricane or sludge bomb though

[craggy dagger]

ghost-
that’s yuta’s team

[timber falcon]

not worth it

simply just better options rn

[real prairie]

it tanks enough of them to let your other mons do bits

[polar canyon]

Wide guard yawn bulky water tho what if

[craggy dagger]

i mean
it’s alright-
but have fun trying to live a terrain boosted glide

or any other grass move

[real prairie]

feels disrespectful that Grimm doesn't get Knock Off

[timber falcon]

rillaboom is actually too much for it. Unless your going with tera hog i highly dont reccomend

especially with no protect

[polar canyon]

I kinda wanna use wide guard without peli or gallade but what even are good options

[timber falcon]

meinshao?

[polar canyon]

Maybe

[real prairie]

Well someone earlier ran Wide Guard Regigigas if that helps? 😆

[polar canyon]

Why didn't I think of mienshao

[real prairie]

hitmontop too

[craggy dagger]

mienshao is really good

but is also always useless in ever other format but restricted .-.

fake out inner focus wide guard

[polar canyon]

Now close combat or high jump kick

Probably close combat

[craggy dagger]

that’s not an actual question is it-

you’re gonna be running sash anyways

[polar canyon]

Yeah

[craggy dagger]

might as well as pick up cc

[polar canyon]

But maybe there's some obscure calc that needs that extra 10 bp idk lol

And also coaching

[humble cedar]

that's before me i think

[near crag]

There was a groudon team that had good success with garganacl, it has wide guard, and provides good disruption, and possibly even set up damage

[near crag]

O started in reg a lol

[knotty mirage]

Is it neccesary to give some speed investment on zamazenta ?

[balmy glen]

yes

[humble cedar]

were talking about csgo surfing LOL

[near crag]

Didn’t realize lmao

[solid frigate]

i made a Terapagos Player Disconnected

bro cant take the amount of Bullshit Encore Whims has

[craggy dagger]

tera dark terapagos then
simple fix
-# and it totally won’t break your game

[solid frigate]

surely it will not break the game

[craggy dagger]

it does

someone tried it with a modded switch and it just froze the game

[solid frigate]

also easy Rank 6 and no losses so far

[torn parrot]

GAAAAAA

[torn parrot]

Oh nice

I’m procrastinating on masterball

I have all month to do it

[solid frigate]

I’m just practicing for my tournament run since my computer is not charged i decided to play on Cart

[solid frigate]

i only have a week to practice soooo

[craggy dagger]

oh only a week-
i should get that team built really quick then

[knotty mirage]

I mean what restricted that zamazenta can outspeed with full speed investment anyway

[craggy dagger]

though the only messy EV spread i have to do is goltres

[solid frigate]

i might get my new Charger port tmr so maybe i can do both Cart and Showdown

[craggy dagger]

well it’s better to practice on cart anyways

since i’m headed to vancouver
-# hopefully

[spiral ridge]

Ya better

[left bobcat]

Yeah

YOU BETTER or else

[torn parrot]

Maybe you should practice on best of 3 ladder

[craggy dagger]

idk
i forgot when vancouver is but my finals are april 18th-21st

[stray girder]

would a tanga berry on malamar make a bug type move neutral or 2x effective?

[solid frigate]

My computer is not charged

its battery is empty

[tiny karma]

Item: Tanga Berry

Halves damage taken from a supereffective Bug-type attack. Single use.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[next stump]

@stray girder 2x

[solid frigate]

honestly might as well run Sitrus

[craggy dagger]

AWW
THATS ADORABLEEEE

[plain drum]

Running Gardevoir ex on the Psyduck playmat

[craggy dagger]

the playmat is adorableeee
the clodsire quagsire and psyduck

[torn parrot]

If you run

Terapagos next to an iron jugulis

Doesn’t that just completely pin a calyrex shadow to where it can’t be on the field anymore

Because it will guarenteed be killed

If it stays in

[craggy dagger]

true but who’s the shadow rider’s partner?

[torn parrot]

Um

True!!!!!!!!!!

But

[craggy dagger]

but like
jugulis pagos would be a good way to pin a shadow rider if like
that’s their last mon

[torn parrot]

Yeah

Well

No

Because if its next to like a clefairy or a passive mon

Or even like a torn

Or a whimsicott

It’s still gonna have a bad time

[craggy dagger]

that’s true
though redirection of jugulis-
wait jugulis gets snarl right

[torn parrot]

Yessss that’s the idea

[craggy dagger]

oh
one thing that could mess with that pin is wide guard though

[torn parrot]

Ohh…

Right!

Unrelated to this

But I wa sthinking about how tinkaton could find some use as a feint user

For a spread move pokemon

To break through wide guard

It has a decently good nuetral defensive typing

If you just invest solely on its bulk

Give it foul play

Fake out
Feint

[charred saddle]

FO feint foulplay?

[torn parrot]

Yeah

[craggy dagger]

oo
mold breaker to mess with fari too

[charred saddle]

ye ye

[tiny karma]

- [Fairy/Steel]

Immune

Dragon, Poison

Resists (0.25x)

Bug

Resists (0.5x)

Dark, Fairy, Flying, Grass, Ice, Normal, Psychic, Rock

Neutral damage

Electric, Fighting, Ghost, Steel, Stellar, Water

Weak (2x)

Fire, Ground

Type Notes

Steel-types cannot be Poisoned.
Steel-types take no damage from Sandstorm.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[charred saddle]

whats the last spot? protect?

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 959: Tinkaton

Types

Fairy/Steel

Abilities

Mold Breaker, Own Tempo, Pickpocket (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

85/75/77/70/105/94

Total

506

Sableye version 4.28.1

[charred saddle]

or tinkaton hammer

[torn parrot]

Probably hammer is fine unless someone has another move they wanna use

[craggy dagger]

protect is prolly better?
though hammer would do big damage if you wanted to run AV

[charred saddle]

it has kinda crappy atk but eh

yeahh i was thinking AV if hammer

[craggy dagger]

that’s why we have foul play

[charred saddle]

[craggy dagger]

leo leo i cooked an absolute monstrosity

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2277387073

[charred saddle]

tera ice CIR

da actual fack

[craggy dagger]

[solid frigate]

bro almost cooked the Never Melting Ice CIR set lmao

[craggy dagger]

so about that-

i was tempted to run tera i’ve never melt

[solid frigate]

[somber carbon]

Hello! Just wanna ask. I was on ranked singles but my opponent has fluttermane and miraidon. I thought they were banned?

[charred saddle]

banned as in? regulations are only for doubles. and even then reg G has dropped where both are viable

[humble cedar]

not anymore

typically the regulations change every few months, with reg G coming back i think BSS (the official singles mode) also got a new regulation

[somber carbon]

Thanks for the info. Now I don't want to play singles in ranked anymore lol

[solid frigate]

bruh moment

[humble cedar]

u can always grab a rental team

bss is kinda ass tho everyone's running stall

[torn parrot]

🐇

[somber carbon]

Bruhh I tried doubles there is Miradion as well. Enough of this. 😭

[torn parrot]

unfortunate to see new player dreams be crushed by reg G

[plain drum]

Rip

[chrome knot]

its just not a hard format to learn lmao

[next stump]

you could play some of the formats available only on Pokemon Showdown that have really low power levels

singles is better and more balanced on there anyways, only downside is you can’t play on the switch and you need a phone/computer

[somber carbon]

Will try that. It's kinda pathetic using these legends in ranked lol.

[next stump]

can you really blame someone for wanting to win in a ranked game

[lofty tartan]

Why wouldn't people play the format for the ranked ladder they're participating in? Not running legends in Reg G is just intentionally handicapping yourself.

[next stump]

that’s like blaming someone for playing a high winrate character in league of legends or another character game

[lofty tartan]

Nothing really funny about what I, or Dillon said. lol

Just facts

[plain drum]

What if I want to laugh

[bold geode]

Balls

Ah I see
Another legendary hater
Let's spook em
Ooooh Urshifu oooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhh
BOO ZACIAN OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH

[plain drum]

[lofty tartan]

It's just some weird elitist mentality that using legendaries is somehow cheap or dishonorable, when you have the same access to the same busted stuff as everyone else xD

[plain drum]

Time to wait for a restricted reg ig

[lofty tartan]

Ain't no honor in pokemon battling. lol

[bold geode]

Well dishonor on you
Dishonor on your family
Me in a mirror

[lofty tartan]

This isn't feudal Japan

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-brought-shame-upon-myself-junichi-takiyama-tuong-lu-kim-south-park-s15e6-gif-23109033

[torn parrot]

nah people arnt pathetic they didnt create the format

[bold geode]

Guess I'm bad for wanting to win 🤷‍♂️

[lofty tartan]

You have to give your opponent a chance, Monke.

[somber carbon]

Now your statements are even funnier. Thank you for making my day 😆

[torn parrot]

laugh off the pain

https://tenor.com/view/anime-hug-anime-hugging-hugging-hug-anime-gif-26094868

[lofty tartan]

Yeah I mean not everyone can hang when you start introducing strong pokes into a format 🤷

[humble cedar]

you can also use miraidon in doubles 😈

[lofty tartan]

I want to use Cosmog.

[humble cedar]

but rillaboom is a hard counter to a lot of miraidon stuff

[humble cedar]

some dude hit masterball with cosmoem

[plain drum]

LC my fucking goat

[bold geode]

I used Rayquaza for a month bro
They got a mag dump already

[humble cedar]

bro spammed cosmic power and splash

[torn parrot]

i think legendary spammer is probably the stupidest phrase iv ever seen be born out of this game
how you gonna shame people for using legendaries while choosing to play a format with legendaries

[humble cedar]

and i think had a psych up mon

[lofty tartan]

You can hit masterball with 4 mons on your team

[humble cedar]

I think it's funny when ppl like temp6t put "SALTY LEGENDARY SPAMMER DIES TO A PIKACHU"

playing in 1000 elo AG is something else man

so many dumbass little timmys

[lofty tartan]

Anyway

[humble cedar]

yes

[bold geode]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH CSR

[lofty tartan]

Monke - arms tomorrow. I'm cutting out energy drinks from my diet

[torn parrot]

OOUUOOOOOOOO

[lofty tartan]

Mainly any sugary carbonated drinks - gone

[bold geode]

Yeah ain't a good idea to drink gasoline dude

[lofty tartan]

I don't drink things like Monster or that stuff. I drink one energy drink because it doesn't taste like crap.

[craggy dagger]

monke what

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/stopitpatrick-stoppatrick-youarescaringhim-stopitpatrickyouarescaringgim-gif-23995581

[craggy dagger]

i should run psyshock i think but

https://pokepast.es/acc0a628312ec000

ignore the bottom half of the team lmao
that’s still in works

[lofty tartan]

@bold geode I busted both of the shoulder seams in my jacket :[

[bold geode]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH TERAPAGOS

[bold geode]

Bro's jacked AF

[humble cedar]

I busted the seam in my dress pants during a choir concert

[bold geode]

I wonder how like those gmersupps flavors taste

[plain drum]

Saving this

[humble cedar]

they're really good

[lofty tartan]

I gained 26 pounds 😐

[bold geode]

Muscle or fat

[plain drum]

The face says it’s not muscle

[bold geode]

Yeah but sadly my ADHD meds probably won't mix with it well

[craggy dagger]

AAAA
STOPPP

[lofty tartan]

It's a mix of both. It takes a lot of time to even gain 5lbs of lean muscle

[craggy dagger]

you should try badger’s flavour

[lofty tartan]

I need to gain both muscle and fat anyway, so that I have something to cut down

[humble cedar]

how much u weigh

[bold geode]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH GLACIAL LANCE BE UPON YE POOR MORTAL ONE

[lofty tartan]

156. I'm 22.3% body fat.

[charred saddle]

mom

[bold geode]

233
80% fat

[charred saddle]

wait is this actually

[lofty tartan]

No

[charred saddle]

i just got my body measurement actually yesterday and i was borderline not healthy

[bold geode]

It's exaggerated but there's more than should be

[humble cedar]

I'm about 154 at 18% so same spot

[charred saddle]

[humble cedar]

those are estimates based on height and weight i haven't gotten my body fat checked in a minute

[bold geode]

They were able to get close enough to your stank ass to measure you?

[charred saddle]

i did a very accurate test right

164 cm
64.1 kg

fat 20.9

im basically fat

BMR 1594

[charred saddle]

they do actually

they took my spit

[bold geode]

Wow
Brave soldiers indeed

[craggy dagger]

hi

[humble cedar]

that's not horrible but also not great

[charred saddle]

im smelly

[humble cedar]

it also rly matter gender bc for a woman that's insanely jacked

but for a male that's average

[lofty tartan]

Eh 18 - 24% body fat is the average for healthy folks *

[charred saddle]

what i mean borderline is that my IMT

[lofty tartan]

It's the same range for women and men. 18 - 24

[charred saddle]

im overweight at risk

• my genetics --> risk of obesity haha

[charred saddle]

usually women > men

[lofty tartan]

I just checked. Healthy averages are 18 - 24% body fat.

[bold geode]

Cuz thicc thighs save lives

[lofty tartan]

You're 141lbs. How are you almost overweight?

[craggy dagger]

Then go shower

[bold geode]

Leo short then

[real prairie]

How you getting o

[charred saddle]

oh im asian so we use the asia pacific IMT rates

[real prairie]

On?*

[bold geode]

Do you have to be supermodel

[real prairie]

Does fire pon have the Cojones to OHKO Terapagos ?

[lofty tartan]

Asian body standards are very much different than ours. But 5 feet 4 inches @ 141lbs is pretty normal

[bold geode]

Oh Leo is 5'4"?

[charred saddle]

idk about that but in cm its 164

[bold geode]

Fuckin Hobbit

[charred saddle]

[lofty tartan]

Yeah 164 cm = ~5'4"

[charred saddle]

look man, most asians are short

its average okay

[lofty tartan]

You're still taller than my mother, but much shorter than me.,

[bold geode]

@mighty stump are you a hobbit?

[charred saddle]

[real prairie]

The average height for a hobbit is so much smaller than I figured 🤣

[bold geode]

I say I'm 6'3 but I might actually be like 6'1

[lofty tartan]

Hobbits are much shorter than 5'4"

Ah yeah I see what you were saying

Monke is just an idiot.

[bold geode]

Like I'm 6'3 but then I stand next to a mfer who's also 6'3 and I was like uh you're defo taller

[bold geode]

Oh yeah but Leo is still short so

[real prairie]

I thought it was like 4ft to 5.5ft not damn 2ft 🤣

[lofty tartan]

2ft are the smallest ones - like below average.

Like children xD

[real prairie]

🤣

[lofty tartan]

I am 177.8cm xD

[charred saddle]

its not that far

[lofty tartan]

It's six inches.

[charred saddle]

thought u said much shorter gonna be 180 at least

hahah

[foggy lodge]

im 172😭

[lofty tartan]

Six inches is half a foot - it's a large gap xD

[charred saddle]

nono, i thought its much larger gap kek

[bold geode]

190.5 cm

[charred saddle]

nah ur just monkey

[lofty tartan]

My roommate is taller than Monke

[bold geode]

GORILLA

https://tenor.com/view/tarzan-gorillas-clayton-gif-20239566

[real prairie]

@solid frigate still going with shield dog?

[craggy dagger]

i’m short .-.

[bold geode]

Hehehe shortie

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH TOP SHELF

[charred saddle]

but ur still taller than me

[pallid hare]

Why everyone shorter than me?

[bold geode]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH COOKIE JAR ON TOP OF FRIDGE

[lofty tartan]

Anything taller than 6'4" is problematic

[bold geode]

I want cookies now lmao

[bold geode]

I already have enough brain damage at 6'3 so ye

[lofty tartan]

Sounds like a "you" problem

[charred saddle]

ur forgetting an important aspect

[bold geode]

You hit your head on top of car trunks? Skill issue

[lofty tartan]

[charred saddle]

anything taller than 6'4'' and MONKE is problematic

[bold geode]

Yeah I'm your worst nightmare

[lofty tartan]

My roommate is 6'4" but currently lifts lighter than me

[bold geode]

Am I your roommate?

[lofty tartan]

No. But you lift lighter than me too xD

[charred saddle]

[pallid hare]

yeah, height isnt everything when it comes to size

[bold geode]

I see you 👁️👁️

[charred saddle]

ur straight up disgusting

[pallid hare]

what the fuck is this?

[bold geode]

Says the guy afraid of showers

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-sus-suspicious-stare-eyes-on-you-gif-7197827967440963024

[plain drum]

You haven’t even seen the other two yet relax

[charred saddle]

and now u appear?

[lofty tartan]

Eni is the Dream Crusher

[plain drum]

Just say you need me and I’ll be here bb

[charred saddle]

damn.

[craggy dagger]

[charred saddle]

mom help someone is hitting on me

[craggy dagger]

DONT BULLY HIM >:(

[plain drum]

I’m a good influence I promise

[charred saddle]

mom im scared

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/i-hope-you-can-sleep-at-night-you-crusher-of-little-girls-dreams-gru-steve-carell-despicable-me2-gif-16561690

[plain drum]

[bold geode]

Quit showing us your videos bro

[charred saddle]

Eni the Dream Crusher

[lofty tartan]

This is what I'm manifesting

[bold geode]

Nah I'd never
Your stench is a natural restraining order

[charred saddle]

i didnt even say its you

[pallid hare]

Eni | Space Dream Smasher

[craggy dagger]

[plain drum]

[charred saddle]

look at this mom eni is hitting on me

[bold geode]

Hes doing what now

[craggy dagger]

[plain drum]

Ever since we held hands in the Mewtwo raid I knew you were the one

[charred saddle]

THE FUCK

[craggy dagger]

[charred saddle]

im outta here

hungry

[bold geode]

Feed me bitch

[plain drum]

You’re not staying over for dinner?

[chrome knot]

hai stinky

[bold geode]

You stinky too

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

[bold geode]

[charred saddle]

growl like a monkey u are and ill feed you

[charred saddle]

[plain drum]

Hmph

[charred saddle]

THE FUCK YOU MEAN HMPH

[plain drum]

You don’t like my cooking ig

[charred saddle]

[craggy dagger]

[bold geode]

Excuse me

[plain drum]

And I thought I said weird shit

[spiral ridge]

i missed leos sexual harassment worthy sentences

[plain drum]

Wh-

[spiral ridge]

he makes some crazy catcalls

[plain drum]

I’m leaving

Going to go hang out with Mika at the gas station

[charred saddle]

i almost showered with this shit on the shower cap

[charred saddle]

[spiral ridge]

it can die

[dusty crypt]

is volcarona better than meowscarada

[charred saddle]

im making it suffer by spinning it in water

[charred saddle]

in doubles? yes

singles? idk

[dusty crypt]

oh

[charred saddle]

but volc itself isnt gonna help in ranked now that its reg G

[spiral ridge]

tera fairy blast volca qith like quiver dance heatwave was very good in reg H

[charred saddle]

yeah i figure

volc is actually a very solid mon

but not in reg G i feel

too much stuff hits strong fast

[dusty crypt]

what reg G mean

[charred saddle]

while it wants to set up,
but being supp doesnt help since lots of better supp

[charred saddle]

regulation, its just a kinda ruleset

[spiral ridge]

it would just be a redirect mon

[charred saddle]

reg G - allows 1 restricted

[spiral ridge]

thats also what it did in H

[lofty tartan]

https://www.serebii.net/scarletviolet/rankedbattle/regulationg.shtml

[dusty crypt]

hisui arcanine still good

[charred saddle]

but thing with redirection is, theres other better redirection mon

amoonguss, clef

or even rockpon

[spiral ridge]

i didnt say good redirect mon

[charred saddle]

true

[lofty tartan]

Not really. He's more an offensive intimidator and Incineroar is just usually better at that role in a high powered format like this

[dusty crypt]

so i’m hearing meowscarada is better for singles

[lofty tartan]

Yes

[charred saddle]

it slaps in reg E tho

because theres no incin HAHAH

[lofty tartan]

Meowscarada was good in Reg H because it was one of the fastest things around, but ultimately better for Singles overall

[charred saddle]

oh but it also won 1 regionals in F iirc(?)

dont remember

[spiral ridge]

meow was good reg A too no?

[lofty tartan]

Yeah but Reg A was hyper-limited anyway

[spiral ridge]

fair

[charred saddle]

wats reg A

just paldean(?)

[lofty tartan]

https://www.serebii.net/scarletviolet/rankedbattle/regulationa.shtml

[spiral ridge]

idk i wasnt here for it just seen few clips

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/homie-shower-gotchu-sneaky-gif-13813267

[plain drum]

Mika is there room for me behind the counter at the K

[lofty tartan]

We're hiring

My boss had to fire 2 people in 4 days

[plain drum]

O

[spiral ridge]

eni making it 3 in 5

[plain drum]

[dusty crypt]

hisui arcanine still got rock head or nah

[plain drum]

You have so much faith in me

[lofty tartan]

It's really easy to do my job.

But my job is enabling me to get education for a career so

[spiral ridge]

ngl when eni said K i assumed k-mart

[next stump]

regulation A only had one IRL tournament i think

maybe 2

[plain drum]

I miss you K-Mart

[lofty tartan]

Nawh man

[molten oasis]

I think it had 2

[plain drum]

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/strange-afoot-bill-and-ted-excellent-adventure-wyld-stallyns-gif-18230133

[left bobcat]

Fuck it

New devotions

[next stump]

dude I can’t get over how sick this EUIC merch is this year

very jealous of anyone going

[chrome knot]

psyduck

[mighty stump]

Im 5ft10 the fuck is that supposed to mean LOL

[bold geode]

LMAO

[bold geode]

What happened now

[mighty stump]

They were grass types

[mighty stump]

The Psyducks are peak

[bold geode]

LMAO
They didn't tera, what idiots

[mighty stump]

fr

Shoulda had Flash Fire

[bold geode]

Shoulda swapped into Incineroar

[chrome knot]

[mighty stump]

Feelin ready?

[molten oasis]

Good luck

[chrome knot]

yeah

cir was solved

[next stump]

https://x.com/lorcylovesyou/status/1783975554242208096?s=46&t=fDxHQLlKCKU_ddfszOAZ6w

Lorcy (@lorcylovesyou) on X

I promise you this, I’m not paying $70 dollars at regionals to use bad Pokemon. Especially in a restricted format, we not taking no risks 😂.

Twitter · Apr 26, 2024, 9:44 PM

[molten oasis]

Me who spent $70 and took zacian to NAIC

[torn parrot]

the pawmot team won a best of 3 open teamsheets room tour with 26 people 😭 maybe this team is real

i know its causual but still

maybe should play limitless at some point

i think this is one of those teams where i prefer best of 3 open teamsheets

[chrome knot]

nahhh

cir is good again, I have a good winrate into zamazenta rn

[left bobcat]

Hmmmm

Who’s the guy with the stellar blast zacian?

I used that zacian and I gotta say I’m impressed

[molten oasis]

[left bobcat]

Welp whoever that guy is

I did it

[solid frigate]

lol

[molten oasis]

That was me dawg

+tofu

[solid frigate]

honestly that makes it even more funnier that he ignored you

[balmy glen]

see u in round 7

[chrome knot]

whyre u at the x-3 tables

[left bobcat]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh

Thought it was someone else

It all makes sense now

[molten oasis]

lol

[balmy glen]

Real

See you at round 1 then

[left bobcat]

Either way zacian

Is mine now

Let’s see so
Miraidon ✅ Koraidon ✅ Kyogre ✅ Calyrex Ice/shadow ✅zama ✅ zacian ✅ pagos ✅ Groudon ✅

[atomic portal]

nah bro u only make bo1 gimmick teams

u hitting top 10 on ladder and winning bo3 tourneys vs some good as players was a fluke

[shadow wind]

Bro just use Sandy Shocks 😭

[solid frigate]

B01 bullshit

[shadow wind]

Yup

Thank god I tera grassed my Ceruledge the same turn

Like at least that's a known tera

[solid frigate]

why are you using Ceruledge.

[shadow wind]

Cause lowkey he might cook

Heavy emphasis on the might

[molten oasis]

I love remaining weak to lance

[shadow wind]

And also his design is sick as balls

[molten oasis]

Genius

[shadow wind]

But that Miraidon that will definitely click electro drift is dead

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2277721686-64dkjim2aufrun2bxti09fxuu6b23s2pw

The team has been working fairly well but still not sure on some of the mons

Went from 1300 to 1600 with only a couple losses

[solid frigate]

btw who the fuck E-Drift on Raging Bolt

[shadow wind]

That's the joke

[solid frigate]

Bruh moment

[shadow wind]

Goes from dealing 2.5% to 0% !

[craggy dagger]

o registration is up

time to specs pass

[mighty stump]

I guess logically it's to deny VSwitch and return a KO

[torn parrot]

fucking ptsd shit

conner is gunning it again

[shadow wind]

From what?

Oh that

Nah, new team means I won’t do it… yet…

[torn parrot]

from when you didnt even let me have a like a couple hours of victory 😔

traumatizing shit

you were like

"oh im 1400, oh now im fucking 1738"

and now i'm like FUUUUUCK

here we go again

we take this shit to rank 1

[shadow wind]

🦒🦒🦒

[torn parrot]

🐇

at least ill get a few days of victory this time

[shadow wind]

This is true

But that’s cause I’ve been cooking up a 5 star team

[molten oasis]

dealt with a scam today, fun to learn about good thing i caught on

anyway

[timber falcon]

Do you have a roaring moon set? I think I’d like to try it out instead of pelipper for my zacian team if possible.

Cause I’ve got no idea what to ev the thing for

[molten oasis]

do you want supportive moon or offensive moon

[timber falcon]

Supportive

[molten oasis]

Roaring Moon @ Booster Energy
Ability: Protosynthesis
Level: 60
Tera Type: Poison
EVs: 100 HP / 12 Atk / 148 Def / 4 SpD / 244 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Knock Off
• Breaking Swipe
• Tailwind
• Protect

eats cc from shifu at -1, pao things at -1

outspeeds everything thats not booster flutter

It might eat draining kiss from CSR but prob not

Huh

252+ SpA Calyrex-Shadow Rider Draining Kiss vs. 100 HP / 0 SpD Roaring Moon: 152-180 (78.7 - 93.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO if no boosting item or Tera (highly unlikely) it’ll live

[opaque night]

If you use a Gardevoir with Trace ability in a doubles match does it trace the opponent pokemons ability directly opposite it?

[tiny karma]

Ability: Trace

On switch-in, this Pokemon copies a random opposing Pokemon's Ability. Abilities that cannot be copied are As One, Battle Bond, Comatose, Commander, Disguise, Embody Aspect, Flower Gift, Forecast, Hunger Switch, Ice Face, Illusion, Imposter, Multitype, Neutralizing Gas, Poison Puppeteer, Power Construct, Power of Alchemy, Protosynthesis, Quark Drive, Receiver, RKS System, Schooling, Shields Down, Stance Change, Teraform Zero, Tera Shell, Tera Shift, Trace, Zen Mode, and Zero to Hero. If no opposing Pokemon has an Ability that can be copied, this Ability will activate as soon as one does.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[molten oasis]

Yes

[timber falcon]

Thanks

[gentle crag]

otot8953 has given 1 Gen Rep to drayagedrago

[knotty mirage]

I have question is it good idea to slot tera blast tera ground on zacian ?

[real prairie]

looks like we are in the same boat, bouncing around the ladder.

[real prairie]

Good thing my precious Ludicolo is the perfect pokemon 🙃

[cyan smelt]

How is ludicolo better than ogerpon wellspring

[real prairie]

Competitively it probably isn't, just Ludicolo is my favourite mon

but if i had to really fight its case, id say faster in rain, fake out pressure, has access to fast Encores which partners well to prevent protects

[cyan smelt]

Do U even run energy ball on it for urshifu

[molten oasis]

That top cut worlds so yes

[balmy glen]

meh

[knotty mirage]

Damn just lost to worry seed rilla it makes my fari usseless

[molten oasis]

Well, you could do ground Tera blast

Or go stellar

[knotty mirage]

I don't even tera the zacian at all it just fake out cycle eventually worn out my mon

I use fari to not need worry about fake out anymore but how should i know there will be someone who give rillaboom worry seed

[molten oasis]

Well, are you leading zacian into incin rilla teams?

Zacian teams are really centered around your positioning, I think, mine is at least anyway

[knotty mirage]

I lead with drago and fari actually

[molten oasis]

what is the team comp, and drago Fari sounds like it loses to anything faster than drago, which isn’t hard to do

[knotty mirage]

It's zacian urshifu rapid tornadus rillaboom fari and regidrago

[molten oasis]

Why is Fari on that team

[knotty mirage]

Too no need to worry about prio move

I'm too used of using it because i mainly use caly ice

[molten oasis]

Ok but zacian public enemy #1 is incin

[knotty mirage]

And this is first time i use zacian

[molten oasis]

Fari doesn’t do shit into incin

[knotty mirage]

So what you suggest me to use then

[molten oasis]

And if you lead Fari all you tell the incin is to pshot the zacian/partner if not shifu

You have Regidrago and shifu to handle incin if you can position correctly for it

What are you most worried about mu wise rn

[knotty mirage]

Problem is they also have raging bolt which i don't think urshifu want to be in front of

[molten oasis]

again, your positioning matters a lot

you can survive with zac not having its boost but when zac gets onto the field that is when you want to win

and what are you struggling with rn

[knotty mirage]

I guess not much the only thing i can think off to makes me lose is surprise bs like worry seed rilla because cart ladder or someone who play better with better restricted mon

[molten oasis]

what is your line into the calys

or gameplan

[knotty mirage]

I don't see caly much in my experience trying to use zacian or well at least ussualy caly ghost just drop to surging strike

[molten oasis]

so you have no gameplan into either

that is not a good thing cuz those guys are very strong

[knotty mirage]

No don't think so

[molten oasis]

like, okay sure CSR drops to surging strikes

a lot of those teams have an ogerpon/bolt/celf to redirect its attacks and then your shifu is dead

[knotty mirage]

Oh well i guess i'm just going back to play caly ice then

[molten oasis]

...alr

[knotty mirage]

It much more simpler to play

[molten oasis]

i agree

[wispy spade]

does ditto copy tera?

[chrome knot]

no

[tiny karma]

Move: Feint

If this move is successful, it breaks through the target's Baneful Bunker, Detect, King's Shield, Protect, or Spiky Shield for this turn, allowing other Pokemon to attack the target normally. If the target's side is protected by Crafty Shield, Mat Block, Quick Guard, or Wide Guard, that protection is also broken for this turn and other Pokemon may attack the target's side normally.

Type

Normal

Category

Physical

Power

30

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Priority

2

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[wide lark]

Ehhhhh. Tera blast ground would have like 3 good matchups that sacred sword doesnt, but SSword is crucial into some matchups like zacian v zama

It really depends on the team, since zacian relies on having some good team members that can cover its major weaknesses (it cant hit ghost/fire or ghost/steel at all)

This on top of the ability is why alot of zacian teams run chien pao also

I also like zacian, ting lu for similar reasons, basically amounting to good type synergy and zacian abusing the sp.atk drop to win games

[wispy spade]

does protect/flying/levitate remove the extra single target damage you'd do when earthquake only damages one target?

[real prairie]

because its still targetting both, just they are immune / protected

[torn parrot]

nah yeah its still double taarget

[wispy spade]

[real prairie]

These are my biggest issues, which mon is a good solution?

[chrome knot]

what is ur team

[real prairie]

https://pokepast.es/394a4fa6e3c8bfa4

think all the mons feel comfortable bar Chien-Pao

who has had its ups and downs

also how do i change my name just for the server like other people?

[chrome knot]

ok so a 5 mon team

i also dont rly know what incin is doing here

[real prairie]

I mean, feel free to give me an alternative but Incin has been quite useful navigating around TR

[solid frigate]

bro immediately roasted the Ludicolo lmao

[real prairie]

its gonna happen 🤷‍♂️

[solid frigate]

wait are you still in birmingham or you are out rn

[real prairie]

Im going Bham

[solid frigate]

good

[real prairie]

Ill see you there (Not actually but you know what i mean)

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/belle-zzz-zenless-zone-zero-shake-drink-gif-7645421774834538081

[real prairie]

Im winning more than im losing, but want to buff this a bit lol

[solid frigate]

i'm gonna just ask my team members to throw me any teams that would be common and the calcs later

[real prairie]

Also for the ludi doubters 🤣

[solid frigate]

also i'm gonna just make a team report for my team later

[real prairie]

this on Stella Novas?

[cyan smelt]

Why is landorus not on ur team

[solid frigate]

Stellar Nova*

But yes and on this server

[real prairie]

because it fucked me off getting outsped

[cyan smelt]

Scarf lando

[real prairie]

scarf Kyogre

Ive tried other Kyogres and can't get on with them

[cyan smelt]

Why not calm mind ogre

[real prairie]

Origin pulse misses

[solid frigate]

ah yes

Origin Miss

[real prairie]

I almost dropped it for Surf at one point it pissed me off so much 🤣

[cyan smelt]

How about jugulis

[real prairie]

proto speed or SpAtk?

[cyan smelt]

Speed just in case you get outsped

Hurricane, earth power

Tailwind

You could replace whims if you had jugulis

[real prairie]

Until i come up against a prankster TW

[cyan smelt]

Slow tailwind has advantages

[real prairie]

it isn't great into Miridon which im pretty solid against atm

[cyan smelt]

Hmmm

[real prairie]

the 1 i lost against was Scarf + TW in CTS lol