Hmm i could change some stuff later
#competitive_discussion
tough mural
torn parrot
for sure
the 0 attack really matters because they will live a foul play
it can be game changing
still ridge
Anyone know good EVs for Rillaboom? Only real thing I'm looking for is to outspeed other fake out users
(assault vest)
torn parrot
munchstats has some basic spreads
make sur eyou dont go a max attack set tho bulk and speed matters alot more in this reg
still ridge
Was looking at them and there was a fair bit of spread on them, was more curious if there's any specific attacks I should be looking at surviving
I used to run max attack life orb to OHKO flutter with grassy glide but have a dif life orb user on team now
next stump
Was looking at them and there was a fair bit of spread on them, was more curious...
look at maybe helping hand + life orb astral barrage (i believe you survive with AV but check)
still ridge
look at maybe helping hand + life orb astral barrage (i believe you survive with...
would 1-shot without massive investment if they tera, otherwise it survives with minimal investment
I am planning on running tera dark scarf lando to deal with him though
molten oasis
Notice how both teams have like the exact same formula lmao
torn parrot
protect kicks ass
still ridge
I'm stubborn so I try to build around the meta rather than just using all the same shit 🤣
molten oasis
crazy how good teams follow the same formula
Ong
chrome knot
I'm stubborn so I try to build around the meta rather than just using all the sa...
what that mean
still ridge
I mean I don't want to run all the same stuff and I prefer trying to come up with stuff that counters the meta mons
still ridge
I don't understand what's confusing about that lol
still ridge
Oh those aren't mine above ^
still ridge
I think you have me mixed with the other guy
torn parrot
wait
oh yeah i totally got you two mixed up
mb
its difficult because the meta is formed around countering itself
its one big circle jerk
still ridge
Yeah lol
torn parrot
im sure theres some cool off meta picks tho and innovations
still ridge
This is what I'm currently working on, still need a 6th pokemon and figure out EVs for last couple mons
torn parrot
looks pretty neat tho i thi kn too much setup for the team i dont think its catered toward set up
maybe some protects
the latias pick is cool
maybe it could have tailwind or something
still ridge
It's already a fast team so I'm not too worried about that right now but speed control always important
enemy setting up tailwind definitely could be a problem
tough mural
https://pokepast.es/8e50866fbaa816ae
https://pokepast.es/9bbc2987840cf2c0
Is the 2nd one more for trick room cause that was my intention for that team ?
chrome knot
yes
still ridge
I compared the two, I prefer the slight bulk of latias and the damage for mist ball is better than latios' luster
mint void
If I would Hypertrain Calyrex IR but not Calrex does Calyrex keep his IVs after reverting them?
I guess not but u can only get one caly so its kinda ass
still ridge
Also the main reason I'm running latias over flutter mane is to be a hard counter to urshi-rapid, can safely swap into him if needed
torn parrot
If I would Hypertrain Calyrex IR but not Calrex does Calyrex keep his IVs after ...
all the statsgo to the bunny i think
torn parrot
It's already a fast team so I'm not too worried about that right now but speed c...
other people with speed control will close that gap pretty quickly
mint void
Cause I might just play my brothers account till I can get it
Same for Urshifu I guess
torn parrot
a team can get away with no speed control with bulk and disruption i feell
but when its super agro and no speed control
its tuff
mint void
I kinda just really want to run eleki but he really doesnt do more than counter Lando or EWeb once ir twice...
torn parrot
counter lando?
mint void
@torn parrot tera ice slaps
torn parrot
ah
mint void
Is rlly funny
torn parrot
iv seen ekleki go crazy on teams
dense latch
i've used eleki for the best part of this reg
it's really good with cir bc of boltbeam coverage
torn parrot
thats the most frusterating shit
dense latch
makes for some super strong pins
still ridge
Speaking of speed control, latias has tailwind too, could potentially switch calm mind for that
mint void
Like I like him he does cool shit but I often regret bringing him. Might just have to adjust the team arnd him a little.
I like the idea of thunderCage but 90 acc is t it. Tbolt is just better
mint void
Speaking of speed control, latias has tailwind too, could potentially switch cal...
Why not Latios? Does Latias actually live anything Latios doesnt?
tough mural
yes
Ah cause i think 2 slow pokemon for a trick room team is kinda low right? Isn't it better to have mixed or have 2/3 that can work in and out of trickroom?
chrome knot
?
mint void
what are you running it with?
CIR team rn. But Im totally not set. If been running about anything for some time on SD to test
dense latch
Ah cause i think 2 slow pokemon for a trick room team is kinda low right? Isn't ...
not really
most cir teams only have two slow mons because calyrex is already a monster on its own
still ridge
Why not Latios? Does Latias actually live anything Latios doesnt?
I want to be able to pivot into latias in front of urshi-rapid and I like the extra bulk- there were very few damage calcs where I needed the extra sp.atk from latios
mint void
@still ridge can Latias OHKO Amoonguss with the bulk?
still ridge
I'll double check
Naw, with life orb latias it's about 70-85%, would need life orb latios with max sp.atk to break even a moderately invested amoongus
mint void
252 SpA Soul Dew Latios Draco Meteor vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Ursaluna-Bloodmoon: 187-222 (98.9 - 117.4%) -- 93.75% chance to OHKO
chrome knot
The opposing Zamazenta used Behemoth Bash!
It's super effective!
(lost & dizzy lost 38.8% of its health!)
like huhhhaswbijfawbjfgukinaw
mint void
252 SpA Soul Dew Latios Luster Purge vs. 244 HP / 108 SpD Amoonguss: 206-246 (93.6 - 111.8%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
dense latch
The opposing Zamazenta used Behemoth Bash!
It's super effective!
(lost & dizzy l...
behemoth bash zama in big 2025 is crazy ngl
as if zamazenta needs more tools into cir
chrome knot
jumpscared me bc heavy slam did not ko from there LMFAO
still ridge
252 SpA Soul Dew Latios Luster Purge vs. 244 HP / 108 SpD Amoonguss: 206-246 (9...
Not as worried about ursaluna, I normally lead with rilla anyways
torn parrot
holy
mint void
Says he as he quotes the Amoonguss calc
still ridge
He was asking if I have done the amoongus calc and I hadn't because that's not one I'd normally think about- however I did switch to wood hammer from taunt rilla so it was worth checking 😛
chrome knot
booster bolt
tough mural
?
Now it i have done it better raging bolt i want to try this build out before going to the build you sent me.
molten oasis
Is bolt supposed to be booster energy?
near crag
Check this out: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2276339975 I built this joke groudon team in five minutes, and i'm just happy rn
molten oasis
Or ig should it be
near crag
It's fun to move first in tr, the reactions are just priceless
And yeah, I know it's suboptimal
mint void
Or ig should it be
Booster or AV are probably the most popular. Then Lorb and lefties mby
molten oasis
I never see lefties
mint void
Used but rare. Mostly on CM sets with bulk investments.
near crag
I actually tried leftovers bolt today, and its surprisingly good, def worth a shot
torn parrot
good luck
mint void
Have fun
molten oasis
Hopefully that GXE stays that way, good progress so far
mint void
https://pokepast.es/431e1f3e216c9870 tf do I add here?
still ridge
https://pokepast.es/431e1f3e216c9870 tf do I add here?
Flutter mane might be a good option
Helps answer all the ghost/dragons running around
mighty stump
Hopefully that GXE stays that way, good progress so far
Well done
Good morning everyone
mighty stump
https://pokepast.es/431e1f3e216c9870 tf do I add here?
Like previous considerations, theres Farig for extra TR support and help in the mirror with Foul Play
Improves your CSR MU as well
molten oasis
Top 500 is close enough I’m probably gonna go for it
torn parrot
i beleive in you drago
mint void
Like previous considerations, theres Farig for extra TR support and help in the ...
Had it. Super underwhelming but I ran a rather offensive set which probably was the issue.
Imma try bulky giraffe again
mighty stump
-calc 167x1.5
gentle cragBOT
Result: 250.500000
mighty stump
-calc 139x2
gentle cragBOT
Result: 278.000000
mighty stump
oh wonderful
mighty stump
Yep
bold geode
Hopefully that GXE stays that way, good progress so far
Bouncing in 1200s myself RN sadly but still not bad record
mint void
Who is 167 tho
bold geode
12-5
62%
Ain't horrible but could be better
molten oasis
Bouncing in 1200s myself RN sadly but still not bad record
21-5 is really good compared to last format
bold geode
I'm not worried about results tho
Just on how I'm playing
molten oasis
Fair enough
bold geode
Cuz in hindsight, my record ain't better cuz I had some sloppy games
Also what's top 500 BO1 rn?
molten oasis
1540
bold geode
Ah that's not bad
I could probably make it
Notes though
Gotta figure out my CSR MUs and something else I never thought I'd say
I need to figure out my Groudon MU
drowsy comet
I’m super close to 600 I just wanna hit it
mighty stump
No self-promo outside of the self-promo channels
molten oasis
I need to figure out the miraidon mu
bold geode
No promotion outside #self_promotion which you gotta apply for
drowsy comet
Oh sorry
mighty stump
With Zac?
bold geode
Legit have only lost to Mirai and 1 zama
Think CSR and Groudon actually are my only too
Though idr if I lost to that Zac or nah
molten oasis
I think it’s my leads
chrome knot
omw to vancouver
got sleepy will finish tomorrow
the point however is 10 of each relevant restricted + a bunch a misc
bold geode
I think it’s my leads
Mine is just misplay here and there
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/7af564d1627adcf1 fairly often I lead pon and moon which works initially and then I tend to lose to the back stuff
And I’m not sure what I’m supposed to bring
Besides the dog and lando
bold geode
omw to vancouver
No way you
- Have Zam Ape on there
- Have Spicy on there
bold geode
I lead Rilla a fuck ton
mighty stump
Im gonna work on what I just sent you
bold geode
The amount of plays I can rip off of Rilla + 1 is insane
mighty stump
Spicy Cigar is friend
You going with Cigar?
bold geode
Rilla Entei has killed so many Incineroar
chrome knot
non
bold geode
Spicy Cigar is friend
Spicy iz friend for sure
chrome knot
Like the blank
bold geode
I gave him an Amoongus so he could choke 
molten oasis
I might just need to take bigger risks on t1, if I lead hearth and moon I think I prob just cudgel whimsi and tailwind with moon, I get tw if he targets pon and I get a knock out if he gleams/targets moon
If they lead Fari just try and kill it ig
I need Mirai mu practice lol
bold geode
Wait I remember now
My 5th loss was a Zam MU
mighty stump
Twitter
bold geode
https://x.com/chorutowo/status/1876440912731275596?s=46&t=NSIK9f9OViHUJnm37QZcEQ
This shit is helpful
mint void
Bro is missing a 1.5x boost on the Moon tier
mint void
@molten oasis not max speed
molten oasis
Prob modest but not
Timid
mint void
164 EVs neutral is same speed
still ridge
Imagine if roaring moon was faster than regileki 🤣
mint void
Moon with booster, chiyu with TW
molten oasis
With booster yes
still ridge
I know, I just mean the chart doesnt include the +1 😛
molten oasis
I feel like we can infer that pretty easily
mighty stump
Lol
molten oasis
Dawg why are small backpacks fucking $40 lol
Literally need smth to hold my stuff in that’s cheap that option doesn’t exist
bold geode
Dawg why are small backpacks fucking $40 lol
Bro's looking at Gucci bags
left bobcat
Like the brand?
molten oasis
I have converse
left bobcat
Some of the shoes are done tho
molten oasis
I like said converse
bold geode
Are they made with cloth?
bold geode
Then fuck you, hope you put them on and it's raining
molten oasis
Just look at the damn weather before you walk out with cloth shoes genius
bold geode
Nuh Uh
molten oasis
left bobcat
Yeah I was about to say
bold geode
Just look at the damn weather before you walk out with cloth shoes genius
Did that say genie or am I a dumbass
left bobcat
Just check the weather
molten oasis
There’s like an app for it bro
mighty stump
Vans is so low quality unless you get them from JPN
molten oasis
Noted
mint void
-calc 220x0.67
gentle cragBOT
Result: 147.400000
bold geode
Bro when those the only shoes I got then I ain't got that choice genius
I hate Vans and I hate what they called uh
Oh
Heydudes
molten oasis
I have 5 different pairs of shoes and they’re all in ok-great condition
chrome knot
bold geode
I have 5 different pairs of shoes and they’re all in ok-great condition
I have a pair of Asics that are torn tf up that I wear to work and a pair of Walmart Pokemon shoes cuz fuck it why not
molten oasis
My mom buys me new shoes every Christmas
bold geode
Oh can't forget my Crocs
molten oasis
It’s a tradition now lol
2023 she got me some J’s
That I don’t wear cuz they’re kinda not that comfortable to wear
The converse I got last year are
bold geode
It’s a tradition now lol
I'm sending you Jordan's for Xmas
mint void
I have 3 I guess. 1 for dirty shit like idk forest stuff or sum
Normal AF1 for normal stuff and the Stussy AF1s for fancy stuff
molten oasis
And their purple, which matches with the darker colors I wear
left bobcat
The yams
molten oasis
And then I have general wear sneakers and some nicer black shoes
Ok this store sells for $25 that feels more fair
mint void
Purpel convers? As main colour or accent?
mighty stump
I have Onitsukas
molten oasis
Purpel convers? As main colour or accent?
Just straight purple
molten oasis
Well not ALL purple but mostly purple
bold geode
I had color coded outfits when I was s teen cuz I couldn't match to save my life
mighty stump
Those are ugly
left bobcat
What?
mighty stump
They're ugly looking
molten oasis
The shows you sent are ugly I agree
Pure black doesn’t work unless it’s dress wear imo
mint void
Bulky looking 8n the pic
left bobcat
Oh the black forces?
mighty stump
^
molten oasis
I’m gonna tease them for bad lookin footwear
left bobcat
I would not advice
mighty stump
Silhouette is all off
molten oasis
See we tease and run ez
mighty stump
All blacks are hard to style without highlights
left bobcat
They come in packs
bold geode
Like my closet looked like a fucking crayon box
Every color in the rainbow I had an outfit for
Red outfit orange one yellow one
molten oasis
I HAVE A BAG AT HOME I JUST REMEMBERED ABOUT
left bobcat
They don’t just walk around alone
left bobcat
It’s always a group of people walking in black forces
bold geode
Like red shirt
Red basketball shorts
Orange shirt
Orange basketball shorts
NEON GREEN SHIRT
mint void
Idk. I find it hard to find nice sweaters
bold geode
NEON GREEN SHORTS
left bobcat
Or it’s just 1 in the entire group
mint void
# NEON GREEN SHORTS
Valid as sports shorts
left bobcat
I wear white/black/blue
bold geode
Valid as sports shorts
Yeah except when my whole outfit was neon green
I looked like a fucking highlighter
left bobcat
Actually it varies
One moment I’m wearing button up shirts with some jeans and boots
bold geode
Now I got like
Dark color shorts like black and gray
Jeans
Khakis
Some sweatpants
And other shirts
bold geode
Though I now am a proud owner of 3 MONKEY SHIRTS
left bobcat
And there’s 1 that wears black forces
bold geode
Wha?
molten oasis
Mf I can’t find a picture I took maybe google knows
left bobcat
Wtf are black air forces anyways
These shits
bold geode
These shits
Ngl I thought them bitches was Dr Scholls for a min
mighty stump
If I see them I make sure to keep my guard up
And what does this entail?
left bobcat
And what does this entail?
MF people who wear black forces are menaces
Have you ever witnessed black forces energy?
mighty stump
If you say so
I wear trad clothing
Or at least that's what my wardrobe is building up to be
chrome knot
i have white/orange air forces :3
mighty stump
Or Japan-Americana workwear type beat
bold geode
i have white/orange air forces :3
Can I see?
chrome knot
i need to redo my wardrobe i look so fucking gay
bold geode
I mean .....
left bobcat
mint void
I mean .....
I agree
chrome knot
I mean .....
but id rather jus look like a girl
left bobcat
You must live in the gated communities
molten oasis
It’s not exactly this but it’s this kind of bag but beige and just like, simple chopper art
mighty stump
And you make that sound like a bad thing lol
left bobcat
It’s not
bold geode
It’s not exactly this but it’s this kind of bag but beige and just like, simple ...
Put Chopper in Marvel Rivals
Yeah Tofu you didn't grow up in the hood smfh
left bobcat
It’s just something about those shoes
molten oasis
And it’s this kind of pose but time skip chopper
If I find it at home I’ll take a picture of it
bold geode
I grew up in woods so LMFAO
left bobcat
I swear I’ve seen the craziest transformation from before and after black air forces
bold geode
Motherfucker a shoe ain't gonna do shit LMAO
mint void
It was a meme a while back afaik @mighty stump also out if my age range but...was a thing
molten oasis
Y’all are still on those ugly ass shoes?
left bobcat
Yes
bold geode
Y’all are still on those ugly ass shoes?
Yeah let's change to something else
Like your ugly ass face
Drops mic
mighty stump
Damn
mint void
What speed would I run on uhh
bold geode
It's ok
It's time for Drago to call me a fatass again 
molten oasis
You’re the only one that thinks I’m ugly fatass
bold geode
Hey
Body positivity mfer
mighty stump
Aight cool down children
still ridge
Do I have to beat the ace academy tournament to unlock the judge function?
bold geode
Aight cool down children
Nuh Uh
mint void
Let them at it
molten oasis
I have been told I look good, the hair does a lot but uh still
mint void
Until one cries
mint void
I have been told I look good, the hair does a lot but uh still
What u rocking?
molten oasis
Afro
left bobcat
Man I haven’t cut my hair in a month
bold geode
I have been told I look good, the hair does a lot but uh still
Yeah not bad now that you don't look like Neil Degrasse Tyson
molten oasis
A month? Wow I haven’t cut my hair in 3 years 
left bobcat
I’ve just been wearing my yankees hat
bold geode
You haven't cut your head? I fuckin hope not
foggy lodge
head
molten oasis
I said hair
mint void
No
bold geode
@mighty stump bro is Kenjaku
molten oasis
Yes
mint void
<@250386799363489808> bro is Kenjaku
Im not gay but thats pretty hot
molten oasis
I said hair see the thing I sent
mighty stump
@mint void Since you like Lattafa Khamrah I thought you might liek this
bold geode
Im not gay but thats pretty hot
I mean depends on what body we're talking
molten oasis
Idt any of you took a screenshot pre edited
left bobcat
It’s a bee 🐝
mint void
@mighty stump noted
molten oasis
left bobcat
🐝
left bobcat
Man today has been blowing cold
mint void
I mean depends on what body we're talking
Would also be ass if he could take his head off
bold geode
Your shoulders are good for winter
left bobcat
The wind kept blowing like a mf
mighty stump
The projection is off the charts too
mighty stump
Your shoulders are good for winter
Man
molten oasis
I think he’s just dissapointed ngl
bold geode
No Drago back in the day I just joked about his shoulders
It was after I thought he had massive tits
bold geode
It was a while back, you wouldn't remember
mighty stump
Somehow it always comes full circle back to this
molten oasis
I’m glad I don’t
left bobcat
No Drago back in the day I just joked about his shoulders
It was after I though...
Bigger than rod wave?
molten oasis
Welp, that took a turn anyway I’m gonna finish up the kits I bought tonight I think
I saved the Schwarzette for last
bold geode
Nah so like
Tofu had this pfp before of him behind a Snorlax plush right
And for some reason I looked at it and thought he had HUGE melons
So I beat a dead horse, he changed pfps and I said "hey I can find something else about you to talk about"
And I just went "ah your shoulders"
molten oasis
And pulled an all nighter doing the kit some of ya already saw
mighty stump
I saved the Schwarzette for last
Please send pics
molten oasis
I will
mighty stump
Schwarzette is amazing if you can also get some panel lining done
bold geode
And pulled an all nighter doing the kit some of ya already saw
I feel like all nighters were frequent for you
molten oasis
You bet I’m panel lining that
molten oasis
I feel like all nighters were frequent for you
Cuz I have no life outside of work
I don’t have a sleep schedule I just sleep when I feel like it
bold geode
Cuz I have no life outside of work
molten oasis
I’m also debating what I’m supposed to do for a career
bold geode
Honestly that's the saddest dap up 
molten oasis
I need to get back into school ideally soon
molten oasis
Gonna be honest my dumbass wants to go into the creative field
bold geode
Drago afro pics for OF subs
left bobcat
I was about to say that next
molten oasis
I don’t have the body for that fuck no
I wanna try streaming again I need better equipment tho
left bobcat
Why do I keep thinking of Huey
bold geode
I don’t have the body for that fuck no
Bitches post their feet, you got a shot
left bobcat
No Huey from the boondocks
molten oasis
I haven’t seen boondocks
bold geode
LMAO
left bobcat
Shit is goated
bold geode
I couldn't see Drago in the Boondocks
left bobcat
Well he does have a Afro
left bobcat
Cuz I don’t act like that
Like that?
bold geode
From what I’ve seen at least
Bro don't act like Ruckus smh
molten oasis
Like how the main character act in boondocks, from what I’ve seen
left bobcat
LIKE THAT? FROM FUTURE AND KENDRICK LAMARRRRRRR?
left bobcat
Like how the main character act in boondocks, from what I’ve seen
Huey?
molten oasis
Sure idk
bold geode
Drago don't know Kdot and Future
left bobcat
Let’s see what do they call him…. Ah yes domestic terrorist
bold geode
Alright uh so Pokemon
molten oasis
Y’all wanna help me figure out my miraidon mu that be cool
mint void
Lego man is kinda whack
bold geode
Uh this isn't a mod moment, mods he's having fun mods don't look 
mint void
@molten oasis drop team again
left bobcat
Miraidon
molten oasis
left bobcat
Hmmmmm lettuce see
molten oasis
I have tools to beat it idk what to lead into it or what to generally take
mint void
Whats giving you trouble in the matchup?
left bobcat
Just use lando
bold geode
This grill chicken is good
molten oasis
For the normal stuff tailwind shit
mint void
Do u have a replay?
mighty stump
Could go back to Scarf Lando
molten oasis
For the fucking screens shit the timing of the Tera keeps getting me
left bobcat
Nah scarf wouldn’t be necessary
molten oasis
And i think ogerpon got Draco’ed out like every game lol
bold geode
Could go back to Scarf Lando
Pepperidge Farms remembers Scarf Landot 
molten oasis
Gonna be honest I like the damage output of LORB
molten oasis
make fighting amoonguss easier cuz amoonguss gets annoying and lando chunks
bold geode
Wha this
mint void
@molten oasis Lando covers tera and none tera so you just gotta make 8t get 2 moves of worst case
molten oasis
It covers Tera sure but a lot of the time the sash shifu does too much damage and then I can’t really win from there
left bobcat
Here’s a profile pic for you- 🍠
bold geode
Uh
I think it should be this
left bobcat
🍠
mint void
@bold geode ok
left bobcat
Miraidons run Tera fairy/electric
bold geode
Oh @mighty stump is Tera Flying Acrobatics on Moon still good?
molten oasis
The one time I was like “no way Mirai doesn’t tera here” shifu tera’d and I lost
left bobcat
And wouldn’t tera stellar blast just kill
molten oasis
Only if it Tera’s and I don’t wanna commit unless it’s electric
Bblade always wipes I think
If fairy
left bobcat
If Tera fairy
bold geode
God I wish you ran Sacred
molten oasis
No
left bobcat
Zacian naturally outspeeds miraidon
molten oasis
Cuz why run scared when zama exists
If I’m going fighting steel coverage I’d rather play zama
bold geode
Cuz why run scared when zama exists
Imma let you read that again
molten oasis
Yea I don’t get it man
bold geode
Literally so it can hit Zamazenta for SE thru the boost LMAO
Plus so you don't get walled by Fire/Steel tera
left bobcat
Well unless they Tera ghost
bold geode
Also actually could threaten SE on Incin too
molten oasis
I don’t ever want zacian on the field infront of incin
bold geode
I don’t ever want zacian on the field infront of incin
Eh just another addon tbh
molten oasis
Sacred bblade doesn’t threaten miraidon at all
left bobcat
Play rough does tho
molten oasis
My mu into zama is fine with lando
left bobcat
Well unless they Tera
bold geode
Like sure you got other mons to do this thing and sure no Play Rough don't threaten Mirai but like
- Sacred let's you also do this with the dog itself
- Chien Pao does a ton to Mirai outside tera anyways
molten oasis
If they Tera to dragon I do more damage with Zac
left bobcat
What miraidon would Tera dragon?
mint void
None
bold geode
But really my main thing is just the Fire/Steel teras
mint void
Havent seen one yet
left bobcat
Especially since flutter exists
molten oasis
But really my main thing is just the Fire/Steel teras
Shifu
mint void
Apple boy has a right to be recognised
molten oasis
Lando, ogerpon for steel
molten oasis
STELLAR BLAST
bold geode
Wait actually I wonder
molten oasis
If I haven’t Tera’d it’s not really safe to Tera infront of Zac
bold geode
Can you drop the paste again?
molten oasis
If I read it
I don’t wanna change members
It’s very solid so far, I’m ok with messing with sets, not Zac’s, but everything else’s
Having protect on everything is also pretty nice
left bobcat
Protect is very important
left bobcat
Well zama is naturally bulky
bold geode
DAMN EVEN SOR BOOSTED IS A 12.5?
bold geode
+1 172 Atk Sword of Ruin Tera-Stellar Zacian-Crowned Sacred Sword (1st Use) vs. +1 100 HP / 156+ Def Zamazenta-Crowned: 160-190 (88.8 - 105.5%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO
This is if I lower the HP to around what the faster Zama run
molten oasis
My zama mu isn’t bad either
bold geode
But the default fast Zama set is a 1/8
molten oasis
I thought we were trying to figure out miraidon mu
bold geode
How is that surprising
Figured it'd do more cuz it ignores the Def boost
chrome knot
chi yu
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
left bobcat
Scarf chi yu
molten oasis
92/140 def is kinda nuts
chrome knot
Bitch you told me you didn't like Chi Yu
Chi-Yu
molten oasis
What about it
bold geode
Wow
Emma made me go away from Chi Yu smfh
left bobcat
Scarf chi yu> scarf ursh
bold geode
Scarf chi yu> scarf ursh
I mean depends on team
left bobcat
Chris Morris?
left bobcat
THE CHRIS MORRIS?
mint void
Banger T1
left bobcat
That guy is a legend
bold geode
I’ll just ask morris for some mu practice
"Jarvis, kill the bike"
molten oasis
Why run fighting steel coverage on Zac when zama is RIGHT there
mint void
@molten oasis whats ur lead for Mirai then?
left bobcat
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2276401809
Unfortunate
molten oasis
I DONT KNOW
bold geode
Why run fighting steel coverage on Zac when zama is RIGHT there
Well you're choosing to run Zacian so
left bobcat
If only they used heavy slam
molten oasis
Zacian’s good
left bobcat
That’s why I always run heavy slam on my iron hands
molten oasis
Zacian has a positive mu into miraidon with fairy coverage
bold geode
Like idt putting Sacred Sword on Zacian makes it to where "why you no run Zama" like it's still Zacian LMAO
molten oasis
Dropping said fairy coverage makes that mu worse
Ik grant runs sacred but he has Tera ground blast
To still threaten miraidon
chrome knot
@bold geode wanna run set
molten oasis
Like idt putting Sacred Sword on Zacian makes it to where "why you no run Zama" ...
Sacred sword also doesn’t hit very hard
bold geode
Yeah idk I just don't get the logic of Sacred Sword making it budget Zam
Not arguing you should run it, just saying that logic don't compute
chrome knot
need more practice into zamazenta
bold geode
<@817628066020065280> wanna run set
Would you mind giving me a little time before?
left bobcat
I need more practice in general
chrome knot
how long
left bobcat
I’ve been fooling around too much that’s why I never get results
molten oasis
K just, I got nowhere with this conversation so I’m gonna go do smth else and cool off
bold geode
Just gotta hang some laundry up and stuff
Like 5-10 minutes tops
Though probably more around 5-7
molten oasis
Asked about miraidon and then got heated about sacred sword, ugh
chrome knot
okie
chrome knot
prob miraidon
left bobcat
I have a buddy named Lando so I keep thinking about him every time lando is mentioned
molten oasis
whats up with this new ice shard gaming that im seeing on chien pao
Guaranteed prio is pretty cool
left bobcat
Yeah sucker punch not so much
Just imagine if the steel typing never got nerfed
Keeping its resistance to dark and ghost
bold geode
@chrome knot aight I'm good 2 go
chrome knot
ok send to emmyan
next stump
post here
bold geode
We done now sorry
chrome knot
post here
replays if u wanted since i gotta put in mu sheet anyways
@bold geode wp tho ^-^ would u mind if I bugged u alot for games
bold geode
<@817628066020065280> wp tho ^-^ would u mind if I bugged u alot for games
Oh absolutely not
I actually have it in my notes now to figure out that MU LMAO
chrome knot
YIPPEEE
bold geode
Though like
If I don't accept, I'm probably busy but usually I'm around
chrome knot
ill obv ping you before hand and ask
bold geode
Right cool cool
But ye I need to figure out that MU cuz that's like
I know Hirofumi had a Caly Ice with a BP tera resist and a Chi Yu and I wondered how I fare against it
But I NEVER FIGHT IT
chrome knot
fairy is the full problem resist
and heavy slam will never do enough to matter anyways bc im a beeg ass horse
bold geode
Yeah I thought about it but I was like "yeah cuz that'll do shit"
spiral ridge
Lmao
bold geode
Didn't Hirofumi run Poison?
chrome knot
I believe so
molten oasis
He did
chrome knot
but I wanna resist the fucking CHOICE BAND TERA DARK WICKED BLOW
spiral ridge
Besides entei your best bet is flutter neutral damage at that point 😭
bold geode
Ah yeah
Actually I think I fought his team once but they didn't tera the horse
chrome knot
that would knock the fucking horses head off 😭
bold geode
but I wanna resist the fucking CHOICE BAND TERA DARK WICKED BLOW
That going around now?
chrome knot
Ive played a couple
spiral ridge
It hurt?
bold geode
Ah
I usually see just Tera Dark Sash
chrome knot
252 Atk Choice Band Urshifu-Single Strike Wicked Blow vs. x HP / x Def Tera-Fairy Calyrex-Ice Rider on a critical hit: 51-60 (25.3 - 29.8%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
whereas normallyyyyyyyy
252 Atk Choice Band Urshifu-Single Strike Wicked Blow vs. x HP / x Def Calyrex-Ice Rider on a critical hit: 204-242 (101.4 - 120.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
bold geode
252 Atk Choice Band Urshifu-Single Strike Wicked Blow vs. x HP / x Def Calyrex-...
Damn that was actually less than I thought tbh
chrome knot
100hp
150def
lets not forget that cir is a literal stat monster
100hp 150def 130spdef
spiral ridge
Steroid horse
bold geode
Anyways
Time to take dog out and work out at 10pm
left bobcat
You evil
bold geode
Tbf I lost Game 2 cuz of a misclick
left bobcat
Rizz
foggy lodge
placid mist
what does one bring here
torn parrot
im happy uwu i got rank 6 today with my pawmot team
timber falcon
How does one achieve such ranking
torn parrot
i have no god damn idea, i really just be here
i think having a relaxed mind is really good for laddering
solid frigate
How does one achieve such ranking
grinding and Get gud
solid frigate
im happy uwu i got rank 6 today with my pawmot team
the only time i got into High Elo is a short lived 1500 lmao
left bobcat
Ok llama
molten oasis
How does one achieve such ranking
Be insanely cracked at vgc
left bobcat
You gotta be playing matches back to back
atomic portal
im happy uwu i got rank 6 today with my pawmot team
u r living proof that all it takes to make a god tier team is a bottle of vdoka
left bobcat
No way….
mighty stump
i have no god damn idea, i really just be here
i think having a relaxed mind is...
Its such a good point that if youre stressed tf out grinding ladder all the time you end up tunne visioning on shit and your game quakity is shittier
atomic portal
agreed
mindset all it takes - havent played pokemon, but been doing ranked on marvel rivals - a good nights sleep and good mindset gave me the smoothest climb for any game
left bobcat
Gotta keep it one HUNNID
strange fjord
having a good mindset while battling is awesome. if you're getting tilted, stop playing for a bit to get a mental reset
strange fjord
mindset all it takes - havent played pokemon, but been doing ranked on marvel ri...
yoo marvel rivals is soo much fun!
atomic portal
yoo marvel rivals is soo much fun!
squirrel girl make me go awooga
still ridge
Losing to turn 1 iron valiant encore on fake out feels bad xD
molten oasis
squirrel girl make me go awooga
Dawg that’s like every woman in that game
strange fjord
squirrel girl make me go awooga
I play peni for the silly convoy moment (only works if the team is bad lmao)
near crag
My hero taste is as bland as it gets, I just play venom and punisher
Anyways, I thought of this little tech, that Idk if it’s being used, and that is annihilape anti tr. it’s a ghost type, gets taunt, punishes incin w defiant drain punch, and it threatens final gambit. I really can’t see why can’t it be viable
atomic portal
i love peni she my most played tank
i hover between tank and healer
tank pool is peni$, thor, cap, magneto
support i can play all
dps i like squirrel, fister, magik, and hela
molten oasis
I play strange on tank and mantis on support
I never got to play dps so I don’t really have a preference
mighty stump
Anyways, I thought of this little tech, that Idk if it’s being used, and that is...
Ape-CIR variants exist
fathom geyser
Just a thought, would this work in the current format?
molten oasis
Probably not
Ho-oh is really mediocre why use palafin shifu exists, toedscruel maybe but eh
solid frigate
Ho-oh is really mediocre why use palafin shifu exists, toedscruel maybe but eh
At least Ho-Oh can able to do something
I don’t think Lugia can without ignore them Calm Minding
real prairie
does that also apply to multi hit moves like Triple Axel?
steady cove
QUICK, someone tell me their favorite pokemon by design.
knotty mirage
Is there a reason why cart ladder filled with miraidon entei team ?
next stump
does that also apply to multi hit moves like Triple Axel?
don’t believe so
real prairie
Is there a reason why cart ladder filled with miraidon entei team ?
Probably because Miraidon topped the charts for the restricted rankings from all the youtubers
knotty mirage
But why use entei ?
real prairie
And easier to build a team with a Mon you have anyway then try to source something else
real prairie
But why use entei ?
Tera normal extreme speed no?
knotty mirage
Oh so it's used more like dragonite subtitute alright then
real prairie
its a good utility, has a move that 50% burns, has OHKO viability with Tera
solid frigate
Entei and Firepon love to beat the Monke
knotty mirage
After thinking about yeah it makes sense entei is fire type that immune to fake out and intimidate
A perfect rilaboom counter
real prairie
is there an argument Rilla is a bigger problem than Incin in Reg G, seems everyone wants a way to make sure they can beat the monke
🤣
left bobcat
Nah the monke is just good
solid frigate
A perfect rilaboom counter
high Horsepower is actually Popular in Reg G so not perfect imo
knotty mirage
I mean yeah but i presume entei can outspeed and ohko rilla with sacred fire anyway
chrome knot
high Horsepower is actually Popular in Reg G so not perfect imo
rilla needs uturn rn imo
bold geode
rilla needs uturn rn imo
I used U Turn in H cuz I just didn't wanna give up the pivot lol
chrome knot
i used knock off
@ 150spe lol
though for reg g i just think terrain control is very important rn
wide lark
But why use entei ?
Inner focus + reliable burn and great fire type moves makes it really reliable against calyshadow
With tera normal
And caly ice without tera
whole ibex
What are y’all thoughts on Groudon right now?
torn parrot
Ask @shadow wind
shadow wind
THE GOAT
wide lark
What are y’all thoughts on Groudon right now?
Good, but managable
whole ibex
Feels weird for people to be turn off by P Blades when we have been clicking Bleakwind Storm for like 4 regulations.
torn parrot
I just want to be able to rely on my restricted to hit things
wide lark
A very common one at that, theres only one way to have 100% accurate blades and thats gravity (or evasion -2)
whole ibex
Bleakwind has a condition that makes it 100% accurate
True but you don’t always run rain dance
wide lark
Also torn isnt restricted
And the don is so you gotta make it more reasonable, which cant rly happen if he misses half the time
whole ibex
Fair enough
shadow wind
Groudon works better as an enabler
Helping hand next to a proto mon is great
Like specs flutter mane
wide lark
But tork can do that
bold geode
though for reg g i just think terrain control is very important rn
Ye Rilla just goated like that
bold geode
Feels weird for people to be turn off by P Blades when we have been clicking Ble...
Think it's just the difference of restricted vs non restricted tbh
whole ibex
I’m thinking about just using the Koraidon Venu Team that was in that one VR tournament.
But it hasn’t really been seen much recently..
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
charred saddle
Oh whoops sorry
why liechi berry fling?
charred saddle
ohh u flig it to solgaleo
wide lark
But liechi can also be used with ting lu and incin
charred saddle
ic ic
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
charred saddle
interesting
i think thhe only appparent annoyance to this team is amongus
does +3 fangs ko neutral amongus
ie. terawater among
wide lark
Oooo let me check
charred saddle
if not its gonna be hard and taking spore feels bad
wide lark
1hko if less than 92 defence evs (assuming def+ nature)
Guaranteed ohko w/ crit regardless
charred saddle
i thhink most will go for more def in amongus but its still a nice calc ig
wide lark
Hold on I have a funny calc for this solgaleo
+3 252+ Atk Solgaleo Sunsteel Strike vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Terapagos: 213-252 (108.1 - 127.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Tera shell amirite
charred saddle
it bypasses tera shell?
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
wide lark
Sunsteel strike bypasses abilities when attacking
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
charred saddle
ohhhhh damn yeahh thats funny then haha
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
wide lark
Usually terapagos cant even land the hit
The solgaleo setup is way too fast for terapagos to land it
And terapagos is slower than sol too
charred saddle
i mean theres always gonna be FO, follow me, switch in read, tailwind
wide lark
252+ SpA Choice Specs Terapagos Earth Power vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Solgaleo: 120-142 (56.3 - 66.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
charred saddle
interesting
wide lark
Dark pulse does similar damage
The best part is not needing to run amulet
Stupid wrestler cat 
The main losses ive had were against calyshadow, but thats abt it
And that match is pretty 50/50
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
lofty tartan
252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera-Stellar Terapagos-Stellar Earth Power vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Solgaleo: 224-264 (105.6 - 124.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
You have to Tera the turtle. No stab misses the ko
wide lark
Oh yeah I forgor tera stellar
If I see redirection or speed I protect turn 1 to see how tera plays tho
Usually if theyre going for sol I switch in ting lu who walls terapagos insanely well
lofty tartan
i mean theres always gonna be FO, follow me, switch in read, tailwind
How dare you use logic
wide lark
charred saddle
time to bring out my 100% WR pikachu team
wide lark
Never lost cause its never played
charred saddle
wide lark
charred saddle
Never lost cause its never played
2-0
lofty tartan
If something can do damage it can take kos, if it can take kos it can win games. 
charred saddle
in 1300s
still a crazy feat
wide lark
If something can do damage it can take kos, if it can take kos it can win games....
Alr im bringing mashciff
polar canyon
Huge actually
mint void
I always thought it just blocks the healing from the move...
polar canyon
You know what would be hilarious
If regenerator amoonguss with heal block couldn't switch out
wide lark
I remember this cause of a funny interaction I had in gen 5
lofty tartan
I always thought it just blocks the healing from the move...
It's one of the two things mentioned by name on the bulpabedia page
charred saddle
https://pokepast.es/4ced3bd1f57fa5da
iirc one thing funny from here is taht i once killed a restricted with endeavor + quick attack 
mint void
I won cause of the interaction alon
charred saddle
i dont remember the game tho
lofty tartan
mint void
It's one of the two things mentioned by name on the bulpabedia page
I cba to go read every move on a wiki man
lofty tartan
I cba to go read every move on a wiki man
It's a new move so it's good to be current
Yes Draining Kiss is blocked because it has a healing effect
Draining Kiss is a special, fairy drain punch
bold geode
I cba to go read every move on a wiki man
mint void
well probably but idrc since its not like I have a different move with the same voverage
polar canyon
Does regenerator still apply?
bold geode
https://pokepast.es/4ced3bd1f57fa5da
Waddup stinky
lofty tartan
Does regenerator still apply?
Yes. But it blocks lefties and Grassy terrain
charred saddle
Does regenerator still apply?
think ye, since retreating = removing debuff
oh te fuck
charred saddle
damn
bold geode
@chrome knot help I gotta fight Mirai Dozogiri
chrome knot
oop
lofty tartan
I misread the question
bold geode
I don't wanna
lofty tartan
<@224303371564220418> help I gotta fight Mirai Dozogiri
Just don't suck
chrome knot
dont look in my builder rn
bold geode
dont look in my builder rn
Don't tell me you
bold geode
Just don't suck
Brother I fail at that everyday
chrome knot
Don't tell me you
its bc my spreadsheet!!!
lofty tartan
Gross
chrome knot
chrome knot
if anyone wants to help <3
bold geode
Is there any way I can have the spreadsheet?
chrome knot
noooo it has my team on it and is for practice purposes
wide lark
Ive gone against this same team with like 5 different people now.
Lugia, Sableye, Comfey, OgerStone
Did I miss smth?
lofty tartan
You've missed the entire meta
bold geode
Ah
I was just wanting like a version without your team
mint void
noooo it has my team on it and is for practice purposes
tbf at its not like yall will encounter each other alot. Its just about if it gets shared from there
mint void
Obviously
bold geode
Yeah ok that's fine
mint void
Doesnt mean u cant argue for sharing
foggy lodge
if anyone wants to help <3
It needs the EVs?
mint void
just gotta accept a no
bold geode
I mean it's fine lmao it's not that serious
charred saddle
I mean it's fine lmao it's not that serious
u know whhats not serious
apparently saitama serious punch
chrome knot
It needs the EVs?
non
bold geode
apparently saitama serious punch
Nuh Uh
Damn I beat the Dozo easily but I think cuz of a misplay imma lose to the Mirai
bold geode
Yeah I'm screwed fuck
foggy lodge
What is misc btw?
polar canyon
Just play better nerd (I would have lost too)
mint void
What is misc btw?
miscellaneous or however u write it
chrome knot
What is misc btw?
miscellaneous
mint void
Basically anything else
foggy lodge
Ah makes sense
bold geode
Wait now I might've fucked it
polar canyon
It's short for mismagius careful offense
bold geode
WHAT THE FUCK
Oh they fucked it LMAO
Wait no
No I fucked it cuz they got SOAK TATSUGIRI
bold geode
Yeah no fuck me
polar canyon
In a miraison team that's interesting
bold geode
I had Rilla Flutter
Should've Tera Grass on Flutter so the Dozo didn't kill my Flutter
Though I still played it decently well given that that's usually a bad MU
polar canyon
What's ur team
foggy lodge
Derbeste is on streammmm
bold geode
Also @chrome knot note if you don't have it
Idr if you had Rilla or not but if you use it and have Icy Wind/Electroweb, 120 speed is probably fine, it worked for me just now
chrome knot
what
bold geode
Wait you don't nvm LMAO
chrome knot
i do not have -Spe control only tr
polar canyon
-1 speed speed control fan club
bold geode
Sorry, I'm stupid
knotty mirage
Huh i just fought someone that use justified beat up arcanine never know that's a thing
wide lark
Huh i just fought someone that use justified beat up arcanine never know that's ...
I used that alot for reg H, very funny
knotty mirage
Well the thing is the guy use it on reg G on koraidon team that is
lofty tartan
Don't worry, it's still not good. You'll see it randomly on ladder in different comps, though
cyan smelt
Ig cobalion is not good either
lofty tartan
For Justified strats, probably not. Honestly probably not for anything else either xD
cyan smelt
I saw someone use it as a zamazenta answer once, iron def + body press
wide lark
Cobalion is fairly usable as a zama/incin answer
But there are better users of sacred sword
I miss aegislash
lofty tartan
If it's just because it has sacred sword that's a pretty bad reason.
One redirection to stop a beat up is all you need to disrupt it
wide lark
Stab sacred sword + justified clear amulet means its near impossible to knock off
lofty tartan
Stab sacred sword + justified clear amulet means its near impossible to knock of...
It's not near impossible. You just hit it with a knock off. You can prevent getting goobed by a single sacred sword.
Or you can just kill it with the partner. It's got 90 attack
wide lark
If you knock off cobalion gets +1
lofty tartan
If you knock it off and don't just kill it.
Listen all I'm saying is there's a reason why Cobalion gets almost zero actual use
wide lark
Cause its defences suck lol
lofty tartan
And it's just not that great offensively either
It requires you to lean into justified to hope to make any waves.
real prairie
Good, but managable
faced a really nasty Gravity + P Blades team the other day
bold geode
Cobalion is just major ass
wide lark
COBALION HAS AN ATTACK STAT OF 90?!
lofty tartan
Yes
bold geode
COBALION HAS AN ATTACK STAT OF 90?!
Me when +1 Def Body Press
lofty tartan
+1 156+ Def Zamazenta-Crowned Body Press vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Cobalion: 182-216 (109.6 - 130.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
bold geode
Like you do realize that any competent Zamazenta player should be able to play around a Cobalion right?
wide lark
I expected the sword of justice to at least have a competent attack stat
lofty tartan
Urshifu is the new Sword of Justice
lofty tartan
Urshifu-Crowned
bold geode
Honestly they made paradoxes of those Pokemon for a reason and even those kinda failed at some point
wide lark
iron leaves
bold geode
Like Crown was the only one that ACTUALLY did shit
lofty tartan
Iron Crown is good. Needs a team around it.
Iron Boulder is goodish. Hits through protect with a 100 accuracy rock move.
Leaves sucks
bold geode
Iron Boulder was a huge letdown and Leaves just
He was sitting on that bench out of pity
wide lark
Boulder had a bit of hype for a bit until people realised he gets walled by zamazenta
bold geode
He had a bit of hype in F until people realized he was horrible
bold geode
The future paradoxes had a lot of swings and misses lol
thick geyser
This is my reg g team thought so far https://pokepast.es/e580e6383866d15e hows it look
wide lark
This is my reg g team thought so far https://pokepast.es/e580e6383866d15e hows i...
Looks very cool
Does torn not usually run protect?
real prairie
Specs Protect?
lofty tartan
This is my reg g team thought so far https://pokepast.es/e580e6383866d15e hows i...
Incin shouldn't be using temper flare and the other moves aren't going to miss in order to boost the damage.
real prairie
Does torn not usually run protect?
If its not Tera Ghost or Cloaked. yes it should have protect
wide lark
Crowned is slower but way better
real prairie
its wearing a big shield, makes sense its slower lol
wide lark
Base 140 +1 on first switch in, and also 128 is still really fast
charred saddle
didnt say its bad or anything 
wide lark
charred saddle
just pointing out the speed diff
wide lark
I wonder if HOMB zama could be used to outspeed and heavy slam specs mane
bold geode
Incin shouldn't be using temper flare and the other moves aren't going to miss i...
God I wish Temper Flare was actually applicable
charred saddle
no stab
bold geode
I feel like Temper Flare would be a good move on Incin if it didn't already just run Ghost Tera or shit LMAO
Like I already can't reliably Fake Out an Incineroar to begin with so
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
thick geyser
This is my reg g team thought so far https://pokepast.es/e580e6383866d15e hows i...
So ground urshi is ok
wide lark
God I wish Temper Flare was actually applicable
Just outclassed by blitz sadly, the only thing ive ever really used temper flare on is gouging fire when I was using dual screens sun
lofty tartan
So ground urshi is ok
I dunno about ground Ursh.
bold geode
Wisp on Incin methinks is better rn
lofty tartan
Like is it just for parabolic charge? Seems bad to call your Tera just to avoid your own damaging moves. It's a huge resource and you don't wanna give it up for nothing