i also feel that with zac
#competitive_discussion
ember linden
That’s the speed for outspeeding Mirai at -1
lofty tartan
Play Rough is honestly a pain. I normally don't subscribe to the whole accuracy memery ordeal, but Play Rough sucks
shadow wind
You wanna talk about acc
molten oasis
oh i see sir thats also miserable
lofty tartan
It's just the perception of it all, really, but I understand an operational bias
molten oasis
i think pblades is like 20 acc
shadow wind
I haven't double hit pblades in 4 games 😭
ember linden
Then that’s not a what I’m saying issue it’s a you issue and a your team issue but realistically you have enough pressure to work with
lofty tartan
Like if you tally it all up it should be roughly 10% misses but it always feels like more xD
ember linden
You are sash flutter too
molten oasis
its worse when like, zac is my anti bolt guy if lando cant be on the field
shadow wind
I just got rest sleep talked Dozo in 2024
molten oasis
so when play rough misses as shifu protects to not die its like "damn ggs"
shadow wind
5 losses in a row 🤪
molten oasis
actually so painful lol
shadow wind
Ah it happens
ember linden
You are sash flutter too
If they draco groudon you still icy winded for walking wake that would ideally be on your team and in the back soo
lofty tartan
It's the whole aspect of putting a crucial out into a possible miss. It makes me stray from playing Zacian too seriously
shadow wind
Alt anyway
lofty tartan
Play Rough isn't wildly risk vs reward either
molten oasis
It's the whole aspect of putting a crucial out into a possible miss. It makes me...
and that is my entire restricted career lol
lofty tartan
It's just the only good physical fairy move he gets
molten oasis
also play rough can lower attack
shadow wind
Me too twin
molten oasis
it NEVER does
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
lofty tartan
Yeah but Spirit Break always lowers special attack and doesn't miss lol
molten oasis
i will get burned more from flare blitz
lofty tartan
Free Play Rough, you cowards
molten oasis
than lower someones attack
lofty tartan
They're afraid of fairies being too dominant while also making things like flutter mane and being all "no this is fine people will love it"
molten oasis
Like just drop Zacian at that point
ur funny
ember linden
And complain about misses
molten oasis
i aint dropping zac zac is my favorite guy
ember linden
Reread the edit I didn’t actually mean drop Zac
shadow wind
ember linden
Ik you love him so much
shadow wind
Holy it is just not my day
molten oasis
ember linden
Holy it is just not my day
The trade off lol
shadow wind
Nah cause if you made me use pblade 100 times I AM NOT HITTING 85
ember linden
Lol
molten oasis
you'll hit like 20 ong
shadow wind
I gotta hit 1600 though...
lofty tartan
You're tilting. Take a break.
ember linden
Yeah agreed
shadow wind
I'm at 1442 😔
molten oasis
dawg take a break
shadow wind
Nah
ember linden
Every time I hit a +100 benchmark I always don’t play for the rest of the day
lofty tartan
Investing so much into your rating is going to end like this. Rating doesn't overall matter if you're looking to improve, and improvement is not linear.
Take a break.
molten oasis
how does one get their bolt to -3
shadow wind
Draco + parting shot
molten oasis
ah ok
molten oasis
nice
shadow wind
I think tera normal Calyrexes have to be my biggest ops
Like I usually dgleam just for the spread damage
But every time I go for shadow ball they're always somehow tera normal
@ember linden
Alright so I click icy wind and pblades yeah?
ember linden
Did you update to the spread I made?
shadow wind
Yup
ember linden
If so yes
ember linden
Did they tailwind
molten oasis
ember linden
It’s at minus one speed but you don’t have a mon that capitalizes
shadow wind
How does that help
molten oasis
wake would explode regardless in that situation
ember linden
The Mirai is -1 and you’re booster speed
shadow wind
AND THEY'RE DOUBLE SPEED
ember linden
You should be faster than modest 252 speed
shadow wind
And what if they're timid
ember linden
You calc for timid
shadow wind
😭
ember linden
I’ll calc it I’m curious now
Idk fully but ik it’s not that hard to pull off the mu
gentle cragBOT
Result: 202.500000
molten oasis
wait
gentle cragBOT
Result: 307.500000
shadow wind
Proto speed Wake will never outspeed -1 speed Miraidon in TW
And yeah, the MU isn't that bad
But when you lead Groudon flutter it is
shadow wind
Yeah I'm talking about timid
ember linden
Oh okay well yeah my point was modest ||| 252 speed
Reposting
Damn it wrong paste
Rilla isn’t all that slot onable
Then you can get a favorable roll
Hmm
molten oasis
why isnt it slotable
ember linden
For what he’s going for
molten oasis
yea idk what he's going for, why isnt it slotable
shadow wind
No AV
molten oasis
miracle seed
ember linden
yea idk what he's going for, why isnt it slotable
He wants volc and that’d be what it replaces
molten oasis
why
shadow wind
I mean Volc isn't a must but the pokemon you've suggested in my opinion don't provide as much
ember linden
Huh?
left bobcat
Yes
ember linden
why
Probably don’t want to get rid of raging bolt flutter or wake so it’s volc or goltres
The answer would be volc
ember linden
Rain mu is so free and the damage is so worth
molten oasis
i think
molten oasis
Rain mu is so free and the damage is so worth
rilla also helps with that mu
molten oasis
i dont think wake's all that good personally but its his preference
ember linden
Wait grim?
molten oasis
fari also looks fine there it depends on what he's struggling with
ember linden
Tera was probably burned on Mirai while this is going on bc Miraidon brain
So thunderclap hits
Yeah that sounds like the mu fixer
shadow wind
Been testing Grimm as you guys have been talking about it 😭
ember linden
Good
molten oasis
nah i dont really feel like it lol
molten oasis
time for a break maybe
shadow wind
Time to go to a casino 🎰
molten oasis
that is NOT what i meant lol
shadow wind
Nah just go all in
You only gotta win one
Volc solo'ing Zama is pretty nice I can't lie
ember linden
Hey Tofu
ember linden
Do I put goggles or rocky helmet on Volc?
50/50
One doesn’t overpower the other in benefits
Goggles seems like the one to start with
I doubt any incins or ursh would want to come to the mu anyway so maybe goggles is the play
shadow wind
Why would Urshifu not want to come to a Groudon MU 😭
They just wanna surging strikes and have fun
All I wanna do is hit 1500 😔
Like 2 games off
So it's time to lock in
Alright what's goin on
Game hears that I have one unwinnable MU and decides that I get all of it
Team doesn't feel like it's got enough oomph
Time for choice specs flutter
And HH Groudon
Actually it's time for sleep
mighty stump
https://tenor.com/view/money-wallet-broke-gif-7855913
cant be me i got a christmas bonus
😤
dull ibex
Vc?
chrome knot
One doesn’t overpower the other in benefits
i think it’s rocky helm based on team composition not rly that one item is better than the other lol
timber falcon
i genuinly cant get passed 1100 anymore
even using pre made teams, how do i get better again 
chrome knot
DO NOT
mighty stump
<#663665333411774474>
patent marsh
plain drum
What the fuck lmao
feral wraith
Well that’s certainly an image
plain drum
New Applin evo dropped
feral wraith
Facelin
merry summit
done
chrome knot
i have no idea.
follow me alr breaks up thunderclap & ss puts me in range of astral barrage to where id have to thunderclap caly s next so idrk
this 6 is cute and fun but
caly s mu is legit just position better lol
mighty stump
follow me alr breaks up thunderclap & ss puts me in range of astral barrage to w...
they r smart obv
fathom geyser
I switched the cat for a typhlosion and the team, it's stronker now.
chrome knot
left bobcat
Well now
torn parrot
any small bulk urshifu calcs?
left bobcat
any small bulk urshifu calcs?
To survive an astral barrage?
torn parrot
To survive an astral barrage?
funny enough he does that naaturlly
unless its item boosted
fathom geyser
What's like a Mon that works in a grind game but also is good under TR?
My previous team relies too much on making the right reads, always.
torn parrot
What's like a Mon that works in a grind game but also is good under TR?
grind game?
fathom geyser
That's not a term in Pokémon?
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh both people too big 4 die instantly so you stare at each other and fight for small advantages
fathom geyser
Regulation H
next stump
incin, primarina, ursaluna-BM
fathom geyser
Incin too fragile for what I have in mind, Primarina sounds good. Ursaluna just folds to a wall
I'll check the Seels movepool
charred saddle
incin is definitely not fragile tho
fathom geyser
I meant for when it's alone on the field, the team I'm recycling specifically needed to have a slot that fills that specific niche to function, since most end games were one guy against the rest of the world.
molten oasis
How do you get into that position that much where your Mon needs to ALWAYS win a 2v1
solid frigate
what is the EVs btw for your team
fathom geyser
It worked incredibly well
solid frigate
can you show us the team by pokepaste
fathom geyser
what is the EVs btw for your team
Lemme see if I have it still saved on my devices somewhere
molten oasis
It worked incredibly well
So getting yourself into positions where you need to win 2v1’s, which is not a good way to try and win games, has worked incredibly well?
Cuz idt anything can really win 2v1’s that consistently
Maybe CIR or CSR but that’s kinda it
Miraidon also can
solid frigate
and its Reg H so there is not that much Snowball heavy
solid frigate
Miraidon also can
Nope it is not
molten oasis
Nope it is not
If you’re looking at shifu peli yes lol
I think it can but not consistently
solid frigate
If you’re looking at shifu peli yes lol
ok thats just one archetype
CSR and CIR can do that against Almost every Archetype so yeah
fathom geyser
It's odd to explain but pretty much iron hands ended up just being better in these type of positions which the team commonly ended on. To a point where it became a third win con.
The moth was a joke, I never used it.
molten oasis
ok thats just one archetype
CSR and CIR can do that against Almost every Archet...
Valid
fathom geyser
I think this was during ting lu format
molten oasis
That’s a format that’s like nearing a year old
Oh ting Lu that was like a year and a half ago then lol
fathom geyser
It worked unreasonably well
solid frigate
Oh ting Lu that was like a year and a half ago then lol
man i miss just Surging Strikes away that moose
molten oasis
It worked unreasonably well
Hands is super bulky and could keep itself alive pretty easily
Nothing does that in reg h
solid frigate
It worked unreasonably well
how much GXE did you get cuz that is Consistency
molten oasis
That was good
fathom geyser
how much GXE did you get cuz that is Consistency
What's a gxe
solid frigate
the percentage
fathom geyser
Hands is super bulky and could keep itself alive pretty easily
What if conkeldurr?
molten oasis
No
solid frigate
NO
molten oasis
Conk isn’t very good especially when Ursa exists
Why are you trying to find such a specific niche for a team
solid frigate
if Conk is in Reg A then sure
molten oasis
I highly doubt that genuine worked that well
fathom geyser
the percentage
I never calculated it and don't remember it well enough to make a well enough guess but I'm comfortable to say it was above 55
molten oasis
2v1’s are not good positions to be in
solid frigate
I never calculated it and don't remember it well enough to make a well enough gu...
its in the ladder user lookup
in showdown
fathom geyser
its in the ladder user lookup
I don't keep accounts
I don't remember the account name either
molten oasis
Aren’t you just barely coming back from a long break?
fathom geyser
Something something moth I think
fathom geyser
Aren’t you just barely coming back from a long break?
Si
fathom geyser
I don't want the stupid box legendaries to be back
fathom geyser
That's why I quit
molten oasis
I don't want the stupid box legendaries to be back
That’s your option
fathom geyser
Man...
molten oasis
Or try to find this really dumb niche a few days before the format ends
solid frigate
also deal with it,you are allowed to use 1 as well
molten oasis
I’d argue that format was better than reg h was
But I also just, like legendaries and meta sneasler was lame lol
solid frigate
I’d argue that format was better than reg h was
problem is
Reg G is Mid at best
molten oasis
Yea
solid frigate
Reg F peak
molten oasis
I know, I’m hoping reg I is good
But idk it’s gonna be overrun by CIR Mirai and Zama CSR
fathom geyser
At least my beloved fluttermane is back.
I will not touch the next format with a ten foot pole if the sword dog is back and viable
molten oasis
Zacian?
solid frigate
tbf you could run Terapagos cuz Its good with Flutter and Hands
And its one of the more balanced one
molten oasis
Zacian isn’t like how it was in gen 8
solid frigate
I will not touch the next format with a ten foot pole if the sword dog is back a...
that thing is Anti Meta still,and i argue its in a decent spot after the nerf
fathom geyser
tbf you could run Terapagos cuz Its good with Flutter and Hands
And its one of ...
I don't like terapagos, it smells.
molten oasis
It only gets it’s ability once
solid frigate
I don't like terapagos, it smells.
Gun him down
molten oasis
And it got its attack lowered from 170->150
solid frigate
fathom geyser
I still don't want to see either of those.
solid frigate
Maya's Alt Account be like
fathom geyser
I pushed those out of my mind.
molten oasis
It’s a Mon in the format deal with it
fathom geyser
I don't want the stupid onion back
molten oasis
Too bad man, it’s what’s in the format
solid frigate
well too bad we have to deal with it anyways
molten oasis
Like idk what to tell you if you wanna play the game
solid frigate
and Terapagos basically has good MU against CSR and CIR depends on the Team comp for Pagos
fathom geyser
Well, I'll play something else then.
molten oasis
Cuz I doubt we’re gonna get another reg h esc format again
We should be going into double restricted next
solid frigate
Cuz I doubt we’re gonna get another reg h esc format again
not really when end of the SV is near
forest arrow
Double restricted pls
solid frigate
exactly
fathom geyser
I still miss reg C but that makes me a boomer apparently.
molten oasis
ong double restricted would be fun
solid frigate
I still miss reg C but that makes me a boomer apparently.
uhhhh most of us Played Before Reg A
molten oasis
I still miss reg C but that makes me a boomer apparently.
That’s fine, I want reg f back but it’s not like we can do that
fathom geyser
That’s fine, I want reg f back but it’s not like we can do that
We could
torn parrot
feel liek double restricted would be more fun than single restricted
then it would be less matchup heavy
you can do cool combos
solid frigate
That’s fine, I want reg f back but it’s not like we can do that
we almost got baited by TPCi from having Reg F GC
molten oasis
Not really, there’s no way to constantly practice the game without them making it an official format
torn parrot
i looked at last gen oduble restricted stuff there were some neat ones
that made it top of worlds
fathom geyser
There still isn't a guy to fill the niche I Want?
torn parrot
like palkia
molten oasis
Ok before I tell you the INCREDIBLY SMALL LIST of that, why tf do you want that niche so bad
molten oasis
I'll just skill dif people trust
This is better do this not the 2v1 thing
fathom geyser
This is better do this not the 2v1 thing
For a good player yeah, unfortunately I am not that.
molten oasis
Then get better
fathom geyser
Nah, I'd win. (I'll probably just play something more egregious like yu GI oh)
solid frigate
basically
Git gud
molten oasis
You’re barely coming back de-rust and work on improving before finding niche things to do
fathom geyser
Fair enough
real prairie
@mighty stump
left bobcat
Sheeee
bold geode
like palkia
Palkia dog water
torn parrot
Tell that to Mr Paul over here https://pokepast.es/421b770cb659e094
molten oasis
Tell that to Mr Paul over here https://pokepast.es/421b770cb659e094
Different format lol
bold geode
Not even different format
Different MECHANIC
foggy lodge
Tell that to Mr Paul over here https://pokepast.es/421b770cb659e094
omfg
Full bulk Palkia
bold geode
Like you realize that half that Palkia moveset has some inaccurate moves therefore isn't like fully reliable
Like most if not all of Palkia's best moves can miss
And like if that ain't enough (cuz I know some including myself don't mind running inaccurate moves) also have to throw in the fact that it was Dynamax then which like
Made it where your moves BYPASSED ACCURACY CHECKS
Just saying sure some restricted will be better with double restricted
But idt Palkia is legitimately gonna have that much success if any at all
bold geode
Yeah but you're having to commit that just to land your attacks
torn parrot
Like you realize that half that Palkia moveset has some inaccurate moves therefo...
Gen 8 mechanics indeed a factor
The accuracy part is big
bold geode
Like as a fun team idea yeah sure go for it
But I was like speaking on a consistency level with the meta I don't see Palkia doing that well
Like I'm not someone who harps and says "inaccurate moves are bad" cuz that's just straight up false
But it's just the fact that most of its best moves can miss meaning there's a good chance that one of your restricted can just straight up bring no value at times, which like once again if you're playing for fun sure but consistency wise which I am speaking on not the best idea
foggy lodge
Looking at previous worlds is so weird
There are no Urshifus in the whole top 16 of worlds 2022😨
bold geode
Max Guard actually worked on Unseen Fist at least if they weren't Gigantimaxed?
And like sure it has a signature that always crits but once again Urshifu really is only broken cuz of its ability
molten oasis
Not even different format
Different MECHANIC
True
Can’t wait to look at the patch notes see they didn’t nerf shifu and then go “another year of urshifu dominance”
Whenever the next game comes out
foggy lodge
they can't left Urshifu unnerfed next gen
I think Urshifu, Miraidon, Koraidon and the two Calyrexes need a nerf for next gen
bold geode
Miraidon and Koraidon probably fine since they're restricted
Koraidon not gonna have Tera so that'll be something
Calyrex probably should be BP reduction on sigs or accuracy drop (like 90-95% probably)
Urshifu nerf is so simple cuz it was already a thing with Gen 7 and 8's mechanic
Let Urshifu hit thru Protect but at at reduced damage
foggy lodge
Miraidon is still dumb
Electro drift one shots basically everything that doesn't resist or has an absurd special bulk
I think they should take the boost of their abilities
Basically make Hadron Engine and Orichalcum Pulse electric surge and drought
bold geode
Nah
At most just like
Reduce the boost
Like it's 1.5x boost right? Just do like 1.2-1.3x
bold geode
Oh
It's honestly fine then
foggy lodge
The mon just hits so hard😭
bold geode
They're restricted so like
It's honestly not bad enough to warrant that
Honestly the way to nerf Koraidon would probably be to buff Groudon
mint void
@shadow wind u hear that?
foggy lodge
Honestly the way to nerf Koraidon would probably be to buff Groudon
How do u buff it tho
Without making it broken
bold geode
Give it it's mega ability but work it to where you can override it with just other weather and not like before where it can only be overridden by Primordial Sea and Delta Stream
That way even if it's not getting a boost to anything it's still a difference
Plus it makes sense cuz like
Why does this fucking beast that can evaporate oceans share its ability with a fucking turtle
craggy dagger
Its 1.33
isn’t that for just electro drift?
the special attack boost/attack boost that the bikes get in their respective terrain/weather is 1.5 i thought
molten oasis
I think Urshifu, Miraidon, Koraidon and the two Calyrexes need a nerf for next g...
Caly’s
I care the caly’s get nerfed
foggy lodge
isn’t that for just electro drift?
No
Its everything Miraidon's multipliers are dumb
1.5 from stab + 1.5 from specs+ 1.5 from tera + 1.33 from its ability + 1.3 from the electric terrain if its an electric move
like what the fuck😭
molten oasis
Lance/barrage should either lower the respective attack stat, have a chance to miss, or just a BP nerf
I like the first once cuz it also indirectly nerfs its ability
foggy lodge
Astral Barrage hits harder than a single target shadow ball btw
craggy dagger
1.5 from stab + 1.5 from specs+ 1.5 from tera + 1.33 from its ability + 1.3 from...
it’s a bit like the kyogre situation then hm
foggy lodge
244+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Calyrex-Ice in Electric Terrain: 199-235 (96.1 - 113.5%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO
This is not okay
lofty tartan
How? Lol.
torn parrot
Like as a fun team idea yeah sure go for it
But I was like speaking on a consist...
I beleive accuracy in itself in of itself is bad and something I try to avoid
Unless it’s lowkey
20% can be big
bold geode
Depends on how low for me
Like I wouldn't run Stone Edge on Entei rn if I knew something else did what it does but like yeah
85% is the lowest I've ever usually gone
All about risk vs reward and if it's actually worth it for me
Like Fissure can work on Dozo or whatevs but I don't like Fissure cuz it's 30%
Like it's fine to not want to run them but I feel like you need to at least be able to identify if a move is actually good or not based on pros/cons if it's inaccurate and still be able to judge whether or not you wanna use it
foggy lodge
nvm its not that bad 244+ SpA Hadron Engine Miraidon Draco Meteor vs. 156 HP / 172 SpD Assault Vest Iron Hands: 121-144 (48.5 - 57.8%) -- 94.9% chance to 2HKO
damage mostly comes from the specs
i made the AV calcs
bold geode
Lance/barrage should either lower the respective attack stat, have a chance to ...
I say make it like 95% accurate
molten oasis
I say make it like 95% accurate
90 fuck em
torn parrot
Depends on how low for me
Like I wouldn't run Stone Edge on Entei rn if I knew s...
I agree on the risk reward dependent
molten oasis
Make that move feel like play rough or pblades
bold geode
95%
Adjust later
molten oasis
Dawg that adjust would be 3-5 years later
bold geode
Like it's smaller chance but still a chance
Same miss rate as High Horsepower
And it would at least be SOMETHING
molten oasis
True
bold geode
Once again people should already be preparing MUs for the Calys
molten oasis
I like my idea with the lowers respective attack stat
Cuz it also helps with how easily they can just snowball
bold geode
Honestly not a bad idea either
Actually can we do that with only CSR though
Since a lot of em run Nasty Plot
molten oasis
No do em both
molten oasis
Honestly not a bad idea either
Actually can we do that with only CSR though
Yea so it’s like dengo
bold geode
Caly Ice doesn't run setup itself so it'd actually be quite a bad nerf for it
bold geode
Honestly for Caly Ice it's a bit much but for Shadow Rider that's honestly kind of a perfect nerf
torn parrot
I would run a bleak wind on torn because he’s mostly for supportive things even if it doesn’t have rain dance (even tho I would try to fit rain dance)
But I wouldn’t use groudon because I need that man to his attacks he’s the supposed to be my GUY I wanna rely on him
90% moves I’m fine with running as long as not too many on a team
bold geode
Honestly if you want a nerf to the bikes so bad (which idt they really need)
Make it have like Lorb recoil
torn parrot
Also the fact bleakeind is a spread move
molten oasis
Idk what you can really do to miraidon
torn parrot
Oh yeah how do you nerf Miraidon fundamentally…
molten oasis
The multipliers are bonkers
bold geode
Make it Lorb recoil
Like Solar Power essentially
bold geode
Both of them play like fast sweepers so not worst idea
Either that or reduce the damage output of abilities from 1.33 to 1.2x
Actually I correct myself
The horses honestly first nerf to try is to just like
Lower their offensive stats
Cuz like
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
bold geode
Yeah LMAO
torn parrot
It’s so fuckin easy to need the horses I swear to god
I’m mad
bold geode
Nerf their offensive stats to 150
Add the lost points to another stat if you got to in order to compensate but yeah
torn parrot
I wiudl say make their spread move like make it rain too
That way they can’t so easily snowball
bold geode
Like if there had to be like +5 to each of its bulk stats I wouldn't be mad, just lower its offensive stat
torn parrot
I like if it was make it rain they would actually have to think about when to click it and if they could neutralize it with the boost from kills
imagine if you had to think before clicking the move
would be crazy
dense latch
thinking is optional in reg g
bold geode
Once again idt that is fair to Ice Rider
Y'all just mad hating on the horses
torn parrot
Trauma does cause anger
But they could possibly have different downsides
depending on which horse
bold geode
Sad thing though
Moxie Boosted said that Terapagos could probably end up like Ultra Necrozma where it just vanishes after it's respective mechanic goes away and I'm just like
Man sadly I can see that happening
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
dense latch
at least ndm and ndw have 680 BST
torn parrot
I do wonder how they’ll handle the turtle
bold geode
Like it's hard to really see a decent way in which they actually maintain to make it work well enough in future gens without tera
Ogerpon a little different but Terapagos is a restricted
knotty mirage
I do wonder how they’ll handle the turtle
Prolly just end up forgotten like ultra necrozma
torn parrot
If it stays the second form I think that would be pretty shit
Maybe they’ll find a solution
bold geode
Like at most with both Ogerpon and Terapagos they'll like
Make their tera abilities their HAs but like
Realistically knowing Game Freak they'll just not give them their tera abilities or just not let them escape Gen 9
knotty mirage
Maybe they’ll find a solution
What for they never find solution for ultra necrozma
torn parrot
Who knows
torn parrot
What for they never find solution for ultra necrozma
I think the lunala and solgaleo forms were their answer to keep it relevant
dense latch
i mean ultra necrozma was built to work along with mega evolutions
754 bst is busted
bold geode
Like it sucks cuz like
Ogerpon and Terapagos are bomb AF but like
The problem once again is that they tied both to the mechanic big time
torn parrot
Terapagos ain’t even a restricted without tera unfortunately
craggy dagger
i mean
ogerpon can at least function without its gimmick-
dense latch
terapagos without tera is not even worth it as a regular legend
knotty mirage
I mean probably the only thing i can think off they will do is just makes tera starstorm hit both side without needing to tera
balmy glen
Twitter
craggy dagger
I mean probably the only thing i can think off they will do is just makes tera s...
even then i doubt terapagos would see any usage if it did make it out gen 9
the stat boosts were also kinda a part of its entire usage
torn parrot
terapagos literally a pseudo
knotty mirage
Anything else will just feel like copium because not sure if they care enough to make terapagos viable on next gen
craggy dagger
sounds odd but nerf as one into an intrepid sword/dauntless shield type ability?
they did that with battle
bond so i don’t see why they couldn’t do it with as one-
bold geode
https://x.com/npacommish/status/1872777668766384429?t=HXiOkG5w5HkG0Eozr4celA&s=1...
Interesting
knotty mirage
sounds odd but nerf as one into an intrepid sword/dauntless shield type ability?...
It's DLC mon it still give them more money if they keep it like that
balmy glen
Interesting
Idek if I’ll signup lul
bold geode
Question is how do the battles work as far as scheduling
balmy glen
it’s on smogon
torn parrot
There’s a chance I ate something laced in alcohol
bold geode
Ah
Still I'd probably be working during most the times
torn parrot
I love how zacian and zamazenta are competitively designed
Theyre’re my favorite restricteds
balmy glen
Idek what a Zacian is tbh but that Zamazenta dog is really cool tbh like lowk ykyk
torn parrot
I also love that they’re dogs
That’s why they’re the only good things
All others look ugly
Except terapagos
Terapagos is cute
molten oasis
https://x.com/npacommish/status/1872777668766384429?t=HXiOkG5w5HkG0Eozr4celA&s=1...
What’s this?
balmy glen
NPA
molten oasis
Yea what is it
molten oasis
My questions shall remain unanswered
torn parrot
Dunno
molten oasis
Im waiting for Keanu but he got better things to do
Maybe, @mighty stump what’s NPA
It sounds familiar but idk what it is
bold geode
I know Tofu did OPL
next stump
NPA is like a high level VGC league
players get drafted to teams and everyone there is a good player
little plank
I really hate regulation H lol
Csn get 1700 easily in regulation g but can't get master ball on regulation h
mighty stump
I know Tofu did OPL
I did NPAA and OPL
dense latch
Csn get 1700 easily in regulation g but can't get master ball on regulation h
im the opposite
i hit 1850 in reg h but can't get past 1500s in reg g
little plank
im the opposite
I'm stuck at 1 game away from Master ball on cart keep win trading
lofty tartan
What’s this?
I'm friendly with one of the commissioners. Whaddya wanna know?
molten oasis
I'm friendly with one of the commissioners. Whaddya wanna know?
What it is
dense latch
I'm stuck at 1 game away from Master ball on cart keep win trading
that spot is a hellhole lmao i've been there
lofty tartan
What it is
It's a tournament league. Team-based, and each team manager essentially buys players for their team.
It is not a draft league.
lofty tartan
You never really know unless you try out.
There are very skilled players that participate, too, so it's a good way to get some matches in against players of high caliber
torn parrot
i hit 1850 in reg h but can't get past 1500s in reg g
Oh that’s just cus it’s early
dense latch
but in general i feel way worse in reg g
might be a matter of time but it's been a month of showdown already
molten oasis
I’d need something to get comfortable with and I’m kinda iffy on the team I got rn
bold geode
Do I just do my Showdown matches at work and say fuck it we ball chat
molten oasis
Idk which of the big 3 I wanna be weaker to cuz rn it feels like miraidon is really difficult
plain drum
Do I just do my Showdown matches at work and say fuck it we ball chat
They’ll give you a raise when they see you move up the ladder, trust
molten oasis
I think for sure I’m playing shifu Zac pao but the other 3 idk
bold geode
@lofty tartan fuck it we ball?
molten oasis
I’m comfortable with those guys at the very least
bold geode
Do I just do my Showdown matches at work and say fuck it we ball chat
No this Mika LMAO
I'd probably be at work during a lot of NPA shit but it's on Showdown from what I hear so uh
lofty tartan
You gotta get drafted to a team first lol
bold geode
Yeah but do I try out even with this is what I'm asking
bold geode
Ok then no
lofty tartan
Don't sign up unless you're sure that you can attend every tournament expected of you.
bold geode
UGH WHY DOES MY LIFE NOT LET ME DO FUCKIN ANYTHING
plain drum
Thank you for shopping at Walmart
lofty tartan
I was having that problem and then I took control of my schedule at work. 
bold geode
I HAVE a schedule
It's just that that schedule gets in the way of fuckin everything
And it'd be a big hassle to try and get it changed any way that I want it
Cuz not only do I gotta dance around any good days for my medical appointments or plans or what not, I gotta dance around my mom's
torn parrot
Yeah but when we got to 1850 in reg H top 500 was like near or over 1700
The numbers kinda change meaning when it gets to that point
@dense latch meant to reply
bold geode
Really hoping I actually get into NAIC
I really need something to break this dead cycle of life
torn parrot
might be a matter of time but it's been a month of showdown already
To this mb
torn parrot
Really hoping I actually get into NAIC
I really need something to break this dea...
You can do it monkey
world champ 🫵
bold geode
I am no world champ 
lofty tartan
And it'd be a big hassle to try and get it changed any way that I want it
Cuz no...
You have benefits, workplace rights, time off, etc. You also can change availability if you follow proper protocols for it. It's not entirely unattainable. Take time off to go out of town to attend an event, talk to your manager about availability and stuff
Slide your schedule one week and make up for it in the next. Whatever.
I know Walmart isn't a great employer, but also not the worst.
bold geode
Yeah idk possibly
It's just hard trying to do work and also be there for my mom
It's definitely probably not like raising a kid, but like also
It'd be fuckin nice if I had help
But alas
My family just don't give a fuck about my mother so
lofty tartan
Yeah not like raising a kid. You gotta be there for them and also constantly prevent them from dying lmfao. It's a lot of damage control xD
Kids have no fear or self-preservation skills lol
bold geode
Hell one of my family members (technically my actual mother) will say she'll help her and then day of she'll look for ways to weasel herself out of it
bold geode
Yeah not like raising a kid. You gotta be there for them and also constantly pr...
Yeah my mom is like
First half same but second half is like
She can prevent herself dying but if it's something like she can't breathe (her lungs are fucked) then I gotta help keep her from dying then
Which I'm honestly not that good at cuz I admittedly freak out
So I call a family member to do so (same one who weasels out of shit) who lives like at max 2-3 min walking distance from us
And it takes her 20 FUCKING MINUTES TO GET DOWN THERE
Like cool bro she isn't literally suffocating rn
And my mom even then doesn't like want me to call 911 when I'm panicking or whatever
But now bcuz she takes so long, I've literally had to teach myself not to panic, which idk if that's a bad thing but uh
Definitely didn't teach myself that for a good reason
lofty tartan
It's a good thing. Emotions are illogical by nature, so if you're panicking you're not gonna have a very cool head to deal with stuff.
Like if I panic when my kid hurts herself it's only going to make it more chaotic. Panic is bad lol
bold geode
Yeah
But still I just hate it
Hell my cousin who gives more of a fuck about me and my mom than her own daughters do has proposed that once my mom dies I move down to fucking Florida with him and get away from everyone else and honestly
Kinda tempted
Sounds bad but like hell
Cuz like it's gonna sound rude AF but they weren't there for me all this time, what's gonna change after
Plus hell more opportunities where he's at
torn parrot
Csn get 1700 easily in regulation g but can't get master ball on regulation h
How’s the laddering going?
Atm
bold geode
There's SO MANY opportunities where he's at, plus iirc Florida don't have that bad of a local scene
lofty tartan
Cuz like it's gonna sound rude AF but they weren't there for me all this time, w...
Hard to be "there" for people more than emotionally when you're separated by half a continent.
little plank
How’s the laddering going?
This might be my first season since sword and shield launched that I give up before master ball lol
bold geode
Hard to be "there" for people more than emotionally when you're separated by hal...
Thing is my whole life they've been in same town I'm in
torn parrot
Zamn 😔
bold geode
Hell these people weren't there for me when we were in the same fucking HOUSE
torn parrot
This might be my first season since sword and shield launched that I give up bef...
Don’t give up I beleive in you
Your so close
bold geode
Idt half a continent sort of space gonna change much
lofty tartan
Then it looks like you answered it for yourself awhile ago.
torn parrot
But on regulation G on showdown I am at around 1720ish
Right now? That’s awesome!!!
bold geode
Then it looks like you answered it for yourself awhile ago.
Hmm
little plank
Sad I can't get master ball on cart for regulation H though
lofty tartan
Play psyspam, click buttons, get rank
chrome knot
off in the fucking deepend bruh idek whats good anymore
torn parrot
Reg G teambuilding is a blast of fun…
balmy glen
Yo @next stump u should prob put your full name in the name area for the signup so people know which one u are unless you know some of the peeps then its fine
chrome knot
oh is it npa season?
lofty tartan
Yeah it's NPA season
bold geode
But yeah no I might move out this town later on in life cuz like
Hell ain't much here anyways
chrome knot
might consider registering lol
torn parrot
I’m getting pizzzaaa todayy
chrome knot
0% draft chance but seems kinda funny
lofty tartan
A buddy helps run it - I was considering it, but my schedule is going to be doing a huge flip so I'm probably just gonna stay chillin'
bold geode
Best opportunity for me in this town is Walmart LMAO
Idk how sad that actually is
chrome knot
ig yeah
bold geode
Like it's honest work but damn it'd be nice to have more
lofty tartan
Plus I have my own tournament series on Limitless to run
balmy glen
btw guys the greatest Zama duo is working together for EUIC so it’s time
next stump
Yo <@197813560997314562> u should prob put your full name in the name area for t...
how do i edit?
bold geode
Plus I have my own tournament series on Limitless to run <:arkeknine:66950043274...
YEAH WE HAVE OUR OWN LIMITLESS TOUR TO RUN
torn parrot
Might as well who cares
How did they find your past do they just look at the showdown account
balmy glen
how do i edit?
Should let u on top right of ur message, if not then u can hit up one of the peeps to edit it or just resend if u dont wanna wait
torn parrot
They probably look at tournament history too actually
balmy glen
pretty sure u should be fine to edit it/delete it tho depends on what they put that forum under
balmy glen
How did they find your past do they just look at the showdown account
well ur supposed to list ur accomplishments and they do their research if they want
bold geode
Anyways sorry I vented in here, really not often I do that
Just a little look into the mess that is Monke's life
torn parrot
well ur supposed to list ur accomplishments and they do their research if they w...
Righhhtt I see gotcha thanks
gentle cragBOT
Righhhtt I see gotcha thanks
mayahoppins has given 1 Gen Rep to keanufps
bold geode
well ur supposed to list ur accomplishments and they do their research if they w...
Does getting two top 16s in Limitless tours while asleep count as good enough?
balmy glen
LMAO
next stump
thanks 🙂 I’ll go and edit it
balmy glen
yup just making sure so it’s easier for peeps to do their research
bold geode
Got them while I was asleep bro I'm fucking CRACKED
lofty tartan
thanks 🙂 I’ll go and edit it
If you need help, reach out to @cablevgc on Twitter. He should be able to fix things.
bold geode
That shit was REALLY McFree
dies of cringe after saying that
@next stump I really hated that Darsh video
Like imma sound old AF saying this but he was real vulgar with it/had no chill
balmy glen
I didn’t watch it
seems kinda goofy
i don’t really like McFree saying I don’t get it
bold geode
When he was talking about his matches, he was like "so I beat his ass" and I'm like dial it back a bit dude
balmy glen
lmao
lofty tartan
Yeah goofy is a good descriptor. He's pretty much a goof.
balmy glen
That’s one way to grab the viewers attention ig 😭
I just remember laughing when chuppa beat him
bold geode
Like bro you're literally talking about your run on an outlet everyone can see, are you tryna make hoes mad
bold geode
I just remember laughing when chuppa beat him
Bro thought he was Damian Lillard
balmy glen
Like bro you're literally talking about your run on an outlet everyone can see, ...
Well yeah he’s tryna be the next vgc villain apparently
but like that’s just so goofy to me idk
bold geode
"VGC Villain"
This shit a comic book now?
balmy glen
tbh if I did that I don’t think I’ll be able to not start laughing 😭
bold geode
I wanna be VGC SpiderMan bro
molten oasis
Is it genuinely worth trying this tournament
balmy glen
What tournament
foggy lodge
which one
bold geode
Actually Keanu you know when OPL is happening?
lofty tartan
Is it genuinely worth trying this tournament
Series of tournaments
bold geode
I was defo gonna look into OPL
balmy glen
Actually Keanu you know when OPL is happening?
brother OPL is like right before and after worlds and cycles yearly like all the tours
Got a long time coming
bold geode
Damn
balmy glen
OPL is auto draft and more chill
bold geode
Ah
balmy glen
tbh with NPA its supposed to be like VGC tryhards lmao
bold geode
LOL
balmy glen
a lot of peeps ik arent playing this year tho so who knows
lofty tartan
Is it worth it
Define worth?
Like you're asking other people if it's worth your time? You're the only person who knows that. I'm not sure about prizes or anything.
lofty tartan
It's fine. It's a money sink, but it's fine. I still prefer actual TCG in any form, personally.
bold geode
OPL is auto draft and more chill
I like chill stuff so I'll probably go for it this go around
Gives me another reason to talk to the community and maybe play someone who's good
molten oasis
Define worth?
Lemme think about that
balmy glen
Gives me another reason to talk to the community and maybe play someone who's go...
Welp if u somehow got in without connections or in person achievements that would go crazy ngl
also like majority of NPA is either super strong or have like the wildest connections lmao
molten oasis
Is it worth putting in the time to play in these over limitless tournaments for the sake of improvement?
dense latch
so be good or nepotism
im fucked
balmy glen
Is it worth putting in the time to play in these over limitless tournaments for ...
VGC team tournaments?
molten oasis
Or even worth trying to get in, I have 0 notable results
mighty stump
Well I find I grew a lot from OPL and NPAA
molten oasis
VGC team tournaments?
The series of tournaments thing
mighty stump
I don’t really do Limitless tours cuz I find it hard to sit at home and commit to a tour when I have other things to do
balmy glen
Ok I’ll be like super honest if your new don’t even try for NPA. OPL is a solid starter one though. I grew a lot from team tournaments in general on smogon and met a lot of different people in the smogon and vgc scene and grew a lot faster because of that so I think it’s very worth it
mighty stump
But I always wanted to join Sitrus Series cuz it sounds cute
mighty stump
Ok I’ll be like super honest if your new don’t even try for NPA. OPL is a solid ...
OPL is great
But thats cuz I got a goated team
balmy glen
OPL is a greater starter league ye lol
Tbh my miraidon team was cracked then we all got covid at worlds and lost in semi finals 💀
mighty stump
LOL
mighty stump
Tbh my miraidon team was cracked then we all got covid at worlds and lost in sem...
Why didnt you use Full Restore
Noob move
bold geode
Welp if u somehow got in without connections or in person achievements that woul...
Ain't DevonCorp do something with OPL?
mighty stump
Ain't DevonCorp do something with OPL?
Yur
balmy glen
mhm
bold geode
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
RYAN HELP ME
balmy glen
The top players don’t take OPL as seriously but definitely a good league for starters and getting to know people
bold geode
Yeah that's cool
bold geode
Tbh my miraidon team was cracked then we all got covid at worlds and lost in sem...
Wait you got the VID bro? That sucks
balmy glen
Like I played spin the wheel in vc with my team an hour before my matches to decide what restricted I was building around 💀
bold geode
LMAO
balmy glen
Mhm
mighty stump
I got Asada
balmy glen
that’s like every team tour tho
bold geode
My last Rayquaza team came from a Discord poll so I can't even be mad
mighty stump
and everyone was super interactive and feedbsck constant and constructive
balmy glen
OPL is generally chill though
mighty stump
Compared to other team tours it was one of my better ones
Now I’m friends with Nino but no shade his management style is non-existent HAHA
bold geode
Now I’m friends with Nino but no shade his management style is non-existent HAHA
Messaging Nino rn
mighty stump
@balmy glen want thoughts on Mirai
molten oasis
Ok I’ll be like super honest if your new don’t even try for NPA. OPL is a solid ...
Ty that’s all I wanted to know
gentle cragBOT
Ty that’s all I wanted to know
drayagedrago has given 1 Gen Rep to keanufps
bold geode
More wisdom gimme
mighty stump
Its so fucking funny oh my god
balmy glen
<@350152416815218688> want thoughts on Mirai
like in the meta?
mighty stump
like in the meta?
No on a team
solid frigate
hoi
solid frigate
WTF is that Monke.
mighty stump
Like what I have is fine and works well but idk if im just skill diffing and need somethingn else
Crown is Speed Boosting
balmy glen
why specs crown
balmy glen
expert belt 🤓
mighty stump
Also lets me 2HKO Rilla w Psyshock
mighty stump
expert belt 🤓
I know that team idk how I feel abt Expert Belt
My neutrals would be weaker
mint void
@mighty stump would u share the apreads for that team or wanna keep ot to yourself for now?
solid frigate
Crown go brrrr
molten oasis
Its so fucking funny oh my god
You’re right but it just came out of nowhere lol
Anyway I’ll probably try NPL
idt I have the skill for the other thing
mint void
@solid frigate Crown go EF
mint void
Anyway I’ll probably try NPL
Nipple?
molten oasis
Bruh lmao
solid frigate
Psyspam Crown Scam
torn parrot
I might try some limitless tournaments
molten oasis
I played in 2 and top cut one
That was also like a year ago
wtf it’s been a year
torn parrot
The showdown room tours I think helped me get comfortable
I might play some more just to get more comfortable
I hate that there’s actual stakes in limitless in that it’ll be recorded on labmaus forever
molten oasis
Like 5th with Prima and gapdos in reg f felt so good
I have never hit that high since
I was so comfortable with that team
Let’s rerun reg f game freak do it no balls
solid frigate
Incineroar:Exists
bold geode
wtf it’s been a year
Yeah once again
A year ago we got our asses wiped by Patrick Connors
molten oasis
Yeah once again
A year ago we got our asses wiped by Patrick Connors
Was he running gambit pao?
Idk if I ran into him
Also I won that game if I clicked hyper voice instead of moonblast cuz the spa drop is what gave him the win
Which made me lose that sucked lol
bold geode
Was he running gambit pao?
No I checked
I was 2-0, matched with him, lost
You won that same round so 3-0 matched up with him right after I did and you got beat
molten oasis
Oh he had bolt
And demolished me with it lmao
That team sucks into bolt so much
LANDO OVER DENGO WOULD HAVE BEEN PERFECT
bold geode
Yeah but you didn't like Lando iirc
molten oasis
Ye well back then I was an idiot when it came to teambuilding
I’m more open to using whatever now
bold geode
You've gotten better with using Pokemon that you don't like that much
molten oasis
Lando grew on me lol
bold geode
Back then I'd have to fuckin choke slam you to use like Electabuzz like that one time
molten oasis
NO “why” I HATE HIM “bruh”
bold geode
Having problems with something? Use Hands
bold geode
NO “why” I HATE HIM “bruh”
Bruh
molten oasis
I’m not even kidding with the lando shit dude the team was Prima gapdos hearth bolt and incin, that 6th was always like back and forth
Lando would have been perfect man it doesn’t overlap with anything and would have done wonders for the bolt mu
bold geode
LMAO you made Bolt food and was like "why am I losing to Bolt so much"
bold geode
Why was I such a stickler about lando and type overlap
Bro I picked up this bad habit idk where
But for some reason my skin crawls now if any of my mons share the same tera type
Idk where I picked this bad habit up
ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING REGULATION D PLAY
molten oasis
That’s wild lmao
bold geode
Where everything was just "oh yeah 2/3 of my team is Tera Grass for Amoonguss, it's fine bro"
molten oasis
How was your amoonguss mu that bad lol
bold geode
Brother it was Regulation D
Where Amoongus was really everywhere cuz of Urshifu
Back when Amoongus ran fucking Leaf Storm for Urshifu
molten oasis
I forgot about that lmao
bold geode
I just remembered the Leaf Storm part
That was so fucking scary but it was SO DOGSHIT
balmy glen
Leaf Storm 💀
molten oasis
That format sucked tbf
balmy glen
I wish I got on the Chien Pao wave and took vgc seriously earlier on
molten oasis
Reg e got a lot better
molten oasis
I wish I got on the Chien Pao wave and took vgc seriously earlier on
Chien Pao supremacy
bold geode
Leaf Storm 💀
Bro it like OHKO'd Urshifu and it did absolutely nothing else aside from that it was so fucking cringe LMAO
mighty stump
But I was Volcarona pilled
Volc pissing me off atm
ember linden
Reg-G?
mighty stump
It clicks Tera Water and is fat and now everything is burned
huhuhu
Then again its my bad
Fuck it we ball
mighty stump
What is your restricted?
I’m exaggerating
bold geode
Whu dat
ember linden
I’m exaggerating
Ik I just wanna know anyway
mighty stump
Zacian
ember linden
Oh word
bold geode
Why are the first 2 in that link just Wolfe Reg H teams
mighty stump
Cuz its up to date
mighty stump
Its new tho
bold geode
Also Tofu is the MDB Zam team actually gaining popularity? I haven't fought against it except for sets against Kazo
torn parrot
https://vgcdb.com/
What the fuck hell that’s a cool website what’s the data based on
bold geode
What the fuck hell that’s a cool website what’s the data based on
You're doing what to hell?
ember linden
https://vgcdb.com/
#3 antimeta lol
molten oasis
https://vgcdb.com/
Wut dis
torn parrot
i could literally fall asleep to watching people play singles
and talk about their plays
ember linden
Real
molten oasis
Yea cuz singles sucks lol
torn parrot
yeah so im just gonna set rocks here hmn okay maybe ill swap oh must be a bulky peliper lemme click my move here okay thats some chip
ember linden
I enjoy watching
bold geode
i could literally fall asleep to watching people play singles
Deadass the only time I played BSS it was so braindead that I would actually eat dinner while playing it
This was a time when I could not do that with comp AT ALL
torn parrot
Deadass the only time I played BSS it was so braindead that I would actually eat...
yeah there was also a brief time when i played bss XD
setup click your max moves sweep
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
molten oasis
bold geode
@mighty stump I regret checking out my Instagram Reels
molten oasis
Is there more of that god damn apple
bold geode
No
Just I haven't been on there in a minute and first one just
Uh
molten oasis
Gotcha
bold geode
Idek if I wanna show anyone that
torn parrot
watching singles vid he's like:
"in fact lets get up spikes just to guarentee or maybe leech seed is better. Go through Z move which doesnt do anything you gotta calm mind first to ko with that dude. whats the plan now? volt out or? cus im getting up spikes and if your not boots terapagos then thats gonna break your tera shell. I dont think theres any way i can lose like..."
theres long pauses inbetween all sentences
this is truly a bed time video
torn parrot
“so I played a game and it was 170 turns long because I was playing against stall, but I didn’t include it in the video because it would make it over an hour long”
molten oasis
Have fun playing rivals
bold geode
Hey
Palworld is the only thing that cost me money
chrome knot
i could literally fall asleep to watching people play singles
watch blunder
bold geode
Oh Emma wants me to Showdown
torn parrot
watch blunder
Oh yeah he’s really funny ima watch him
bold geode
Emma I trashed the CIR team I showed you lmao
Solely cuz I'm ass with Ice Rider tbh
chrome knot
lol
molten oasis
Why not just play the dog
chrome knot
I scrambled together a cir pile for trainerschool tmrw
bold geode
Why not just play the dog
What ya think I'm doing now
molten oasis
Playing CSR
bold geode
I scrambled together a cir pile for trainerschool tmrw
Oh have fun with that
I would participate but work
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Playing CSR
God no
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I suck with that too
Think Zamazenta is my main man
Just do my best with it
Gonna rock it whenever I can I guess
Groudon and Rayquaza felt alright for me tbh but Zamazenta is just my ideal Mon on crack
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zama also doesn’t suck
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Well once again
I like Pokemon that are stupid bulky for no reason but also don't just sit there
Few Pokemon are like that
Hands is like that
Rillaboom is kinda there
Incineroar is there
But Zamazenta embodies that shit
Crazy hard to remove physically and those STAB Body Presses mean that it's also doing something in return
Might play Palworld though tonight? Idk game always looked fun to me
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Think Zamazenta is my main man
Just do my best with it
Gonna rock it whenever I ...
This I've been having a lot of success with the Michael Kelsch 6
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It's the only Zam variant I've stuck to so far on the rehash
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His 6?
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Funny thing is from what I've gathered about the comp Urshifu is actually a flex slot on his 6 but I think Ursh fits that flex slot the best
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His 6?
Oh yeah I need to finish putting my own EVs on Flutter and Entei, I've just ran his 6 same sets but with a friends EVs
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Eeeeeeeeeeeeesshhhhhhh if you look at data Entei is like part of that core at least
Aaron Zheng ran same core but with Grimm over Ursh and I've seen some run that but with Bolt over Ursh
Though Hearth probably ain't bad
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Urshifu does not feel flex I have forced goggles shifu and it is SO good
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Entei is really there as something that can't be flinched + prio spam with CB + another Koraidon line
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Urshifu does not feel flex I have forced goggles shifu and it is SO good
That's what I'm saying like
Looks like that slot is interchangeable but Urshifu feels best there
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Eeeeeeeeeeeeesshhhhhhh if you look at data Entei is like part of that core at le...
Yeah it just doesn't feel worth considering I usually don't want to go for espeed
Yeah I know what you mean
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help me teambuild
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nooovaaaaaaaaaaaa
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nooovaaaaaaaaaaaa
!!!!
emma!
hai
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haaaaaaiowfjuiaowghauwigaw
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pfff
are you okay-
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made new save so i can stop dumping gen mons onto main so now ign is bunny 
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and she looks so angwy >:(
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Yeah it just doesn't feel worth considering I usually don't want to go for espee...
Follow me redirect spore is so good + same fire stab but glide for urs etc etc
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awe
who upset her-
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Yeah it just doesn't feel worth considering I usually don't want to go for espee...
Funny thing is that depending on board states actually it can just be a glorified priority spam team LMAO
Like prio spam can fuck up CIR Eleki
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Yeah it hits when the opportunity arises but I barely bring it with my playstyle at least
Yeah that is still a idgaf mu for the 5 -entei
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Oh I do it with Ursh
Literally Aqua Jet Glide
Anything
If you can't punish the prio I won't hesitate
Cuz that then like puts Zamazenta into sort of what I call the Zacian teamstyle where you chip down/KO mons and then let Zamazenta be a straight up clean up hitter
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Like prio spam can fuck up CIR Eleki
fawig
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Yeah
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awe
who upset her-
resting bitch face :3
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Alright I'm headed out nice talking to you Monke
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That team comp is heavily invested into beating Rapid Strike and most the time if you bring Farig you have to either
A. Leave behind something that threatens Ursh
Or
B. Leave behind Lando I which is the one threat to Zama
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Alright I'm headed out nice talking to you Monke
See ya later, nice talk
But anyways yeah it's either don't bring Farig and get fucked by prio spam or bring Farig and have your flow messed up a little
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idt i ever wanna bring cir to that mu anyways
itll only show up if u commit to something way too early lol
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idt i ever wanna bring cir to that mu anyways
Yeah it's honestly a fuckin HORRIBLE MU for the honse
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CIR Eleki?
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resting bitch face :3
