competitive_discussion

[mint void]

But I wanna have a bit of a twist in the team and am looking if someone is willing to share sth.

[torn parrot]

That was almost a fucked up way to lose

You pulled throughhhhhhhhhhh

[shadow wind]

I know 😭

You can't out-groudon me

[dense latch]

how many 1600 accounts is that already damn

[torn parrot]

Holy shit nice job!

[shadow wind]

3

[dense latch]

good shit

[shadow wind]

Groudon my goat

🙏

[near crag]

If you’re talking mirai, there is a team that performed well, with mirai, chi yu, dnite, gholdengo, tatsugiri, and dondozo

[mint void]

@near crag im gonna fuck u up

.

[forest arrow]

woah chill out

[dense latch]

a bit too much

[mint void]

.

@forest arrow @dense latch chill its not meant litterally

Hes just helping

[forest arrow]

Theres not many ways mirai are played...Tera electric discharge or tera fairy gleam...

[mint void]

@near crag just so you know. I appreciate the help but im not looking for that

[shadow wind]

Oh hey I played you on ladder

[near crag]

Nah, it’s totally cool. I’m also struggling with just that

[mint void]

@forest arrow i know. Im just asking. If someone has sth they made for themselves Im asking to have a look.

[forest arrow]

Had to of been awhile ago

[dense latch]

what “twist” are you thinking of exactly

[shadow wind]

Was like 10 minutes ago

[forest arrow]

bro i havent played today

i dont have a team i like

[shadow wind]

Weird...

[forest arrow]

what was the team?

[mint void]

I can search for good performing teams. Stat spreads and stuff. I just feel like chexking all options and maybe having a look at something fucked up could be cool.

@dense latch So like...sth stupid id say. Something out of the regular

[dense latch]

y si no quiero

[mint void]

I honestly don't like reg g a lot till now. Restricted dmg is just so high u cant switch shit in.
Most restricted have one superior archetype and even if you are flexible you just dont feel like it does a lot of a difference. Im sure its not entirely like that but I am just not having fun yet.

Also cause I have lost my Terapagos team that I liked and can't remember everything from it :)

Own fault for xlearing browser shit

[faint cedar]

well with that team from last night i've gone 10-5 in 15 games and managed to win a game with a rain archaludon set up despite losing archaludon turn 2

[mint void]

How good is Dozogiri this Reg? I know its used but how good is it actually

[dense latch]

it’s seen a lot of play with weezing csr

[shadow wind]

It'll be good for another week or 2

[dense latch]

did really good at worlds too

[foggy lodge]

Te van a botar

Aun k mi gato ni mira el árbol es medio raro

[dense latch]

):

[faint cedar]

im super late but if you wanted to run a mirai like no other you could work it into a rain archaludon team with pelipper arch and either another support or a bulky attacker like dondozo offensive set or azumarill
and you could run thunder for the higher base power than E Drift and 100% acc. in rain
blast away with dragon pulse, thunder, parabolic charge or e-drift for the extra dmg on super effective hits, and protect or calm mind if you want setup potential or like another option idk

@mint void

probably not the most viable idea in the world

but its a thought to put a unique spin on mirai

i didnt think to check if mirai would learn thunder so maybe it doesnt work but oh well 😭 just the first thing i thought of

archaludon benefits from e terrain cuz of the electro shot boost, mirai can benefit from rain with thunder, pelipper is a good mon for both of them if you run a speedy archaludon w/ tailwind, you could run a bulkier attacker or a support mon in your 4th slot, maybe bring Dozo, Azumarill and a support pokemon as your backups so you can bring a 4th appropriate to your team's matchup against your opponent

that'd be my first thought

[foggy lodge]

Miraidon rain was something that a friend was testing

But it differs a lot from your idea

[faint cedar]

i dont know

i dont tend to have much faith in my own ideas when i come up with some so spur-of-the-moment

i'd have to take a closer look to find matches and such

but it doesn't feel like an awful plan

idk how good it'll be for a reg where csr, zac, zama, etc. are all viable picks though

[mint void]

@faint cedar ok imma take that

Not like 100% but the idea is neat

[faint cedar]

but the idea is out there for anyone to try now if they notice it written in here so maybe it'll cook lmao

[faint cedar]

yeah by all means dont follow it to the letter

just struck me as a nice little combination, archaludon benefitting from rain and e terrain, so does mirai, they fit nicely

[mint void]

Im building a twam for stockholm and mirai dmg is just really convincing

[faint cedar]

ohh i see i see

i am honoured for my idea to be in consideration even if it fails to make the final cut of options 😭

i just thought, you could build an overwhelming attack team instead of a bulkier one too if you wanted

archaludon, thunder mirai, kyogre and another option

you could try Palafin maybe

but ik it struggles in restricted formats esp where mirai dmg is gonna be dominant

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2269165390

Why this guys feels familiar

[mint void]

Wdym look familiar

The name or the team?

[solid frigate]

i swear i heard the name eeveeanimations before or i am just stupid

[mint void]

Probs

[molten oasis]

Endgame you needed to protect t3 then attack t2 and then protect t1 to get out of trick room

Osychic move protect psychic move

[solid frigate]

got it

[molten oasis]

P2 like never needs to recover in the position you were in

[faint cedar]

i made a real quick mock up of a team i think might be workable for this plan if anyone is interested in seeing it i can put the paste in dms or in here to look at but im afraid if i put it in here it might take up a lot of space lol

very quick, not ev'd it even so someone who looks can do what they want with it lmao

[solid frigate]

I'm gonna put my team into the Teamlist for Birmingham,This is final now

and guess what my Miraidon is named

[faint cedar]

big shocky boy

[shadow wind]

All 3 accounts in one screenshot

Woohoo

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-sonic-sonic-metal-overlord-sonic-x-shadow-generations-sxsg-gif-13387528455165749902

[dense latch]

you broke the 66% GXE curse

[shadow wind]

Yeah cause I made a new account 😭

Wasn't even that good of a run

[dull ibex]

merry christmas everyone

[faint cedar]

awe yeah

[dull ibex]

its not christmas day yet but still!

[molten oasis]

74% gxe is kinda great wdym not that good of a run

[solid frigate]

i mean ignore the wings Miraidon does look like Metal Overlord with Purple Paint Job

[faint cedar]

it is for me im just waiting for it to be the 25th for others lol but merry christmas!

[shadow wind]

Cause I was here earlier

[faint cedar]

he does honestly, i never saw it until now you've pointed it out though

[dull ibex]

got my christmas pjs on

[shadow wind]

24 games for 8 elo 😭

[molten oasis]

That’s still really good I can barely average 60% gxe

[dense latch]

yea same

i always end up in the 60s once i reach 1500 territory

[solid frigate]

relatable

[mighty stump]

24 games for 8 elo is crazy

[shadow wind]

I know 😭

Kept getting gatekept

[dense latch]

at least you didnt drop elo lol

[shadow wind]

Hey atleast it wasn't 23 games for -25 elo

[solid frigate]

Bruh moment

[shadow wind]

Yup yup

[dense latch]

i dont even wanna see how many games i’ve played

[solid frigate]

i need to play some more B03

[shadow wind]

All of my accounts

I just love the grind, what can I say

Funny how the lowest account has the most games...

[foggy lodge]

i think i didn't share this here, there is a tournament this weekend and the entry is free https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournament/673bca74c4180e08eacfc20d/details

[shadow wind]

Oooh

[torn parrot]

Well I got the time

Might as well

I’m rooting for conner tho

[dull ibex]

weegeecee

[torn parrot]

He’s the goat

[shadow wind]

🙏

[faint cedar]

i finished that reg g mirai rain archaludon idea team because i got bored but i have no intention to use it 😭 it was a nice use of time though

[bold geode]

@dull ibex weegeecee

[dull ibex]

@bold geode mic issues?

[bold geode]

Headphones

[dull ibex]

Ah ok

If you're joining to connect and disconnect please do it in the empty channel

[shadow wind]

Guess I should register this account

[torn parrot]

Wtf

Your going crazy conner nice job

[shadow wind]

Blazinga

I'll be here waiting for you

🙏

[solid frigate]

LET ME BACK IN

@bold geode MONKE LET ME IN

[mighty stump]

Oh

Merry christmas everyone

I apologise if I have ever wrong any of you and God bless

Hope your 2025 year is wonderful and bountiful

[solid frigate]

Merry Christmas to eeveryone here

https://tenor.com/view/furina-chibi-dance-gif-8721012333203317793

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/storbusglorbus-amogus-mrbeast-mokey-mokeymrbeast-gif-27334230

[torn parrot]

You killed my parents

https://tenor.com/view/anime-knife-gif-24561084

[little plank]

lol this one had me a bit worried https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2269206740

[torn parrot]

Also merry christmas

[shadow wind]

Merry Christmas guys !

Well it's in like 3 hours for me still

[solid frigate]

i'm gonna have a Lapras Figure for present lmao

[dense latch]

i haven’t been in here enough to be toxic tofu’d and i feel like im missing out

but merry christmas too

[torn parrot]

I appreciate you erik

You and Conner are cool

[dense latch]

merry christmas maya :))

[shadow wind]

So glad that I'm cool

[torn parrot]

Merry christmas wooo

[shadow wind]

Too bad someone uses Calyrex Ice

😔

[torn parrot]

This why I can’t use calyrex ice conner will shame me

🐇

[shadow wind]

I am the handicap

Also I don't want more people to beat me

😭

Nah but actually I don't care what restricted people use

I'll call ladder dwellers bad at the game for using a Calyrex but hey, if it works it works and I ain't got no problem with winning

[dense latch]

i feel targeted

[shadow wind]

You should feel targeted

[dense latch]

yes i am indeed bad at the game

[shadow wind]

Nah nah nah

You're chill

[dense latch]

glacial lance hides it

[little plank]

welp just got top 500 on showdown gonna call it for the night lol

[dense latch]

nice

[shadow wind]

Nice !!

[little plank]

yenmega owns reg g again lol

[dense latch]

at least i do eleki that’s fun to use

eleki lando cir is goated

[shadow wind]

Yeah but I be seein em often

[shadow wind]

What team did you use?

[dense latch]

but he’s just a funny guy and shit

[shadow wind]

Lightbulb

[dense latch]

how could you not use it

[little plank]

https://pokepast.es/e107e45b04c5e474

[dense latch]

i saw this plush and decided i would try to slap it on every team i’ll build this reg

[shadow wind]

That's so chill

[shadow wind]

GROUDON GAMING

[dense latch]

shit this looks so fun

[mighty stump]

oh thank god I thought I killed the wrong oens

[gentle crag]

woodtofu has given 1 Gen Rep to mayahoppins

[mighty stump]

new band name

Dead Parent Party

[shadow wind]

DPP

[mighty stump]

DPP

[shadow wind]

Diamond Pearl Platinum

[mighty stump]

DIAMOND PEARL PLATINUM

[dense latch]

Dead PPs for short

[shadow wind]

RAHHHH

[dense latch]

holy shit

[mighty stump]

DEAD PP

[shadow wind]

😭

[little plank]

I ran it to almost 1800 last regulation

[mighty stump]

Now do that with Solgaleo

☠️

[shadow wind]

Solgaleo???

That bro does not exist

[dense latch]

oh yea

that’s technically a restricted i guess

[shadow wind]

Eh....

I barely consider it one

[little plank]

Groudon is my guy lol

[mighty stump]

cuz its bad

[shadow wind]

😔

Does that mean I'm goated??

[mighty stump]

My highest performers are Pagos and CSR

[shadow wind]

Cause it's either he's good and I'm bad or I'm cooking and he's bad

[little plank]

I love facing pagos lol

They never expect the hypnosis spam

That CSR weezing team though that is rough

CCSR weezing dozo I think it is can never remember

[shadow wind]

Wait what's your account name?

I might've played you today

[little plank]

Sinclair?

[shadow wind]

Mmm

Doesn't ring a bell

I did a 1000 to 1600 climb so I needed to see

I played a lot more Groudons than I would've though

[little plank]

yeah I stopped playing for all of reg h

yesterday was my first day back lol

[mighty stump]

Mood

[shadow wind]

I haven't touched Reg H since Reg G came back

I get to use the goat

[little plank]

yeah I really didnt like it

weird that wolfey basiccally used a team I made though to win the regional well the base idea lol

[shadow wind]

Wait are you T500?

[little plank]

I played another game and lost it lol at 1457 now

[shadow wind]

...

[little plank]

I talked shit about pagos and lost to one the next game lmao

[shadow wind]

A humbling event

[little plank]

He got a 1 turn sleep which is never good for me lol

[shadow wind]

I feel like relying on luck like that never works in the long run

[dense latch]

that feels ironic

[shadow wind]

Why? Cause I use Groudon?

It's 85% bro, it ain't that bad 😭

[dense latch]

but tbf it feels like you miss half your pblades and you still win so lmao

[shadow wind]

That's because I don't let luck decide my games

Most times

Now when icy wind misses?

Yeah I'm pressed

Pblade miss?

I already predicted the miss

[dense latch]

pblades was accidentally coded in with the accuracy of fissure

[shadow wind]

At least it's spread !

More targets to miss

[little plank]

alright we ccan end it there lmao

[shadow wind]

Nice !

[little plank]

Thats why I use gravity lol

[shadow wind]

Takes too long to set up

I’d rather have a dazzling gleam and risk it

[little plank]

And thats why I use yenmega next to the gravity to hopefully put a slower mon to sleep

[shadow wind]

I feel like at that point you’ve spent so much time setting up sleep they’re bound to wake up

[little plank]

I mean when it happens it happens. I have had double heat wave misses its just part of the game lol

[shadow wind]

This is the truth

[mighty stump]

I LOVE BEING ASIAN!!!

[shadow wind]

Looks tasty

[solid frigate]

memories man

seeing this gave me memories

[plain drum]

LFG

[left bobcat]

Merry Christmas ladies and gentlemen and others

[torn parrot]

Now I’m hungry at 11:30

I’ll waaaaaaaaaaaiiitttttttttttt

[craggy dagger]

[shadow wind]

Ain't NO ONE on Christmas night

But hey

Least I got this

[faint cedar]

i did not sleep i think im going crazy im sat here thinking about the viability of god damn Meowstic on a psyspam team 😭

[shadow wind]

😭😭😭

Psyspam is lowkey frying right now

It’s on my team currently

But since no one is frickin on ladder I can’t even play more

+8 garbage

Take me a year to hit Top 10

[faint cedar]

i fought one psyspam team and hated my life after so that was fun

but yeah i learned it gets fake out and i started questioning meowstic's viability for psyspam and uh
well i've never had an idea that stupid and i have a mixed attacking archaludon.

[shadow wind]

It actually gets a lot of really good support moves

[faint cedar]

thats what i was thinking of

[near hound]

Should I get necrozma, dialga or kyogre first

[faint cedar]

support for psyspam maybe

[shadow wind]

Dialga

[shadow wind]

Prankster doesn’t mesh well with psyspam

[faint cedar]

i love necrozma but thats because im a weirdo so get dia like conner said lol

[faint cedar]

ah i see

does it get other abilities?

[shadow wind]

Uh

[faint cedar]

i know meowstic m/f are different

[shadow wind]

I don’t think any good ones

[faint cedar]

but idk which one is better and if that one gets prankster or smth diff

unfortunate

[shadow wind]

Why Meowstic?

[faint cedar]

it gets infiltrator

[shadow wind]

It’s kinda really bad

[faint cedar]

ah i found out it got Fake Out and it got me thinking about how many bad pokemon might be viable purely based on movesets

but meowstic is unfortunately not one of them

[shadow wind]

Pure psychic is really buns

[faint cedar]

male meowstic does get infiltrator which i guess is okay? stops light screen anti-psyspam techniques

[shadow wind]

And it has nearly no redeeming qualities

[faint cedar]

meowstic female gets competitive which might be decent

[shadow wind]

I’d rather just use Garticuno

[faint cedar]

true and real

it was mostly a 7am no-sleep thought 😭 but i was wondering about maybe niche "useless" mons finding uses in their movesets and abilities synergising with specific options

[shadow wind]

Offensive Amoonguss

[chrome knot]

milotic wooooo

[faint cedar]

very accurate

[faint cedar]

i hate that thing

fighting milotic is so hard ;-;

[chrome knot]

that fucking bird that i hate

[shadow wind]

Mario maker 😔

[faint cedar]

i have discovered a love for vikavolt trick room so maybe milotic wont be so bad anymore

but its got crazy special bulk iirc so like eh

[shadow wind]

Vikavolt is cool

[faint cedar]

i love him

i just wish he was better
but that's where TR comes in

[shadow wind]

Had it on a team with Groudon a long time ago

[chrome knot]

luckily known of these mons will be played in reg g🙏🙏

[faint cedar]

you're my favourite person here now

vikavolt groudon team goes insane

[shadow wind]

Disquake gaming

I think it was really bad though I can’t lie

[faint cedar]

true but i will be using CIR and I will not be apologising for the results :)

[near hound]

Lugia or rayquaza

[faint cedar]

oh for sure it would be lmao but its a fun thought

[shadow wind]

Groudon is too fast for good TR

It’s why I run a soft TR team

Underspeed stuff like Calyrex Shadow

Outspeed things like Calyrex Ice

[faint cedar]

I want to make a team that's good for Tailwind and TR but honestly i find myself usually just
clicking TR and winning in 5-6 turns

[shadow wind]

Still lose to both

[faint cedar]

or losing in the same time frame

[shadow wind]

I had a thought for Groudon + Torkoal recently

[faint cedar]

its rare i bring tailwind to a fight now which is sad cuz i ran it all the time when i first started doubles

that'd be interesting

[chrome knot]

ahh whats ur speed stat

[shadow wind]

But I think Torkoal is too much of an investment though

[faint cedar]

groudon torkoal paradox teams maybe

[shadow wind]

My Groudon is 120

Outspeeds modest Pelipper and outspeeds Ogerpon and Tornadus after an icy wind

[chrome knot]

ima just click tr🙏🙏

[shadow wind]

I am not playing rock paper scissors

[narrow lily]

Stamina or Sturdy on Archaludon?

[chrome knot]

stamina

[shadow wind]

Both work but it depends on how your team is made

Also what Reg?

[narrow lily]

Just getting into vgc, wanted to use archaludon its strong and looks cool

Wanted to start breeding a good one

[faint cedar]

Stam is the usual set but sturdy can be interesting

[shadow wind]

Sturdy is annoying as balls in CTS

[faint cedar]

just for the love of god don't ev train it the way i did mine 😭

[shadow wind]

😭😭

[near hound]

Should I get Groudon or get furfou (star form) and get something better

[shadow wind]

How does one Groudon?

I would love to Groudon

[near hound]

I mean get

[dense latch]

https://pokepast.es/fac6202e0729feef thoughts on this? i played a bo3 double elim room tour rn and tried this team for the first time and it did pretty good, still think there's room for improvement

[shadow wind]

Well competitively Groudon is better than Furfrou

[dense latch]

are there any weak matchups im missing

[dense latch]

debatable

[shadow wind]

Maybe the world’s team MU?

[mighty stump]

Not really seeing any matchups you’re missing per se

[dense latch]

luca's?

[shadow wind]

Yeah

[dense latch]

i liked lando valiant

[shadow wind]

You definitely have tools for it

[mighty stump]

I don’t think you have any auto-lose MUs

[faint cedar]

i still cant get over my mixed attacker archaludon. i dont know how it happened still 😭

[shadow wind]

Yeah I guess that one comes down to how you play it

[dense latch]

can only really hit my lando with draco and that gives me a lot of momentum after the switch-in

[shadow wind]

True

[dense latch]

i still need to test that mu more though

[shadow wind]

Fairy and ground type can pin it

But Ogerpon Hearthflame might be an issue

But you got ways to play around it

[dense latch]

true

[mighty stump]

You don’t have a matchup into my Snorlax!!!

Nobody does!!!

[dense latch]

the one game i played against that team they got earth powered after they volt switched into firepon

[shadow wind]

😭😭

[dense latch]

that's also why i wanted tera fire on cir aside from the obvious wisp protection

[shadow wind]

Bro has not seen firepon in the sun

[dense latch]

when i ran tera water it could just hit me next turn with grass

[mighty stump]

+1 252+ Atk Tera-Fire Ogerpon-Hearthflame Helping Hand Ivy Cudgel (1.2x Mask Boost) vs. 164 HP / 252+ Def Thick Fat Snorlax in Sun: 226-266 (88.2 - 103.9%) -- 25% chance to OHKO

You need 4 modifiers to even try KOing

Lul

[shadow wind]

Nah I meant no tera

With mold breaker

Might be worse but it’s worth a shot

[mighty stump]

252+ Atk Mold Breaker Ogerpon-Hearthflame Helping Hand Ivy Cudgel (1.2x Mask Boost) vs. 164 HP / 252+ Def Snorlax in Sun: 225-265 (87.8 - 103.5%) -- 25% chance to OHKO

No difference

Lul

[shadow wind]

Oh weird

Weird how it is the same calc

[faint cedar]

i looked at your blog btw @mighty stump i love the teams on there i wanna try recreating diff iterations of them myself or using the rental codes

[mighty stump]

Slightly higher damage roll but relative chance remains

[faint cedar]

i love it

[chrome knot]

tofu

[mighty stump]

peemma

[chrome knot]

do u think hearthflame is like dragonite where adding bulk is useless

[mighty stump]

Yes

Lol

[chrome knot]

ok ty ill go 252adamant

[shadow wind]

Adamant is sketchy can’t lie

[mighty stump]

Like if you’re in a bad situation just Tera

Bulk is not necessary at all

[faint cedar]

but what about my feelings of security :(

[shadow wind]

Although I just need Jolly for Lando I

[mighty stump]

Even more so if you have support tools for it like Rilla + Glide

[mighty stump]

Git gud

[faint cedar]

they disappear without my investments and i feel like paper

[chrome knot]

glacial lance

[mighty stump]

play better

[faint cedar]

yk what that's so right

[shadow wind]

I would say I’ve played pretty good

[chrome knot]

coaching shifu/rilla

[mighty stump]

Bulk without pressure = you’re a punching bag

[mighty stump]

Thats even less reason to need bulk

[chrome knot]

yeahhh…

[faint cedar]

i think its just cuz i run lots of slow but hard hitting mons usually and i was very against TR for a long time

[mighty stump]

I mean

At most

I’d see if you naturally live Surging Strikes from Urshifu pre-Tera

[faint cedar]

but now im doing doubles way more as of like. a week or two ago.
im getting more into TR teams because of my love of slower mons

[mighty stump]

But otherwise meh

[mighty stump]

Biggest tip when building teams = everything is intentional

[faint cedar]

like TR Vikavolt :)

[shadow wind]

True !

[mighty stump]

Majority of the investments, move choices, tera-choice, and members have to be incredibly clear in the role they’re going to perform

Sure, you can plu without perfect EVs

[faint cedar]

yeah people like put specific amounts of EVs in to specifically survive specific hits

i was never that serious even in singles

[mighty stump]

and I would say EV investment can be worked around with better play

But everything else has to be intentional

BECAUSD

it influences every choice you make in the match

Whth better clarity = better calls = better play

[shadow wind]

That’s why I like making my own teams

I know everything that’s made to work

[faint cedar]

im slowly easing myself into it so far. im starting easy, going for general stuff where my specificity is a little less important and i make good plays based on the sets ive made, knowing that they are bulkier than other average sets, knowing i can tank more than people think

[mighty stump]

Additionally

[faint cedar]

but eventually i think i'll find myself leaning more into sets that "make sense"

in the minds of others, not just in my own head

but for now im happy to run "imperfect" stuff and play around that fact

[mighty stump]

You cannot just calc for the sake of calcing for bulk or damage - there has to be a matchup in mind and a response to play off your xalc

[faint cedar]

and then build later

[mighty stump]

Thats correct

[chrome knot]

@mighty stump https://pokepast.es/e7e6e0b78df4fe3c I started being normal again

[mighty stump]

Build and play imperfectly

[faint cedar]

like checking your ability to survive the top threats neutral or super effective incoming hits

[mighty stump]

Iterate accordingly

[faint cedar]

exactly

[mighty stump]

Yes but what do you do in response

Also matters

[mighty stump]

Did you see my Mirai team

[faint cedar]

like i was playing earlier and i was calling out my own misplays mid-match like "ah i could have done that actually but oh well"
even before my opponent had locked in their moves for the turn and I had only just barely got to the point where im not allowed to back up anymore

[chrome knot]

the second paste or rhe first

[faint cedar]

your ability to learn from a misplay is equally as important as your ability to not misplay at all

[mighty stump]

2nd

I flowcharted the mirror already

[chrome knot]

goes hard but crown town sucks anus

[mighty stump]

Yeah have to see

I also wanna build off MDB’s RM Ogre ream

[chrome knot]

that fucking bird that i hate ass mon

i have a dangerous idea

[faint cedar]

i made a mirai/archaludon rain team and i have no idea if it would work but like i made it 😭

[chrome knot]

rm booster @ poison breaking swipe knock tw set on cir

make tailroom :D

[mighty stump]

Lol

I think RM has sleeper potential

[craggy dagger]

tailwind ice rider what-?

[shadow wind]

That better not stand for Rotom Mow

[craggy dagger]

it’s the booster moon that roars-

[mighty stump]

You can guess what RM standa for lol

Speaking of Rotom

Rotom-Wash

Its ok

[shadow wind]

Ahhh

[shadow wind]

Goated hint

[chrome knot]

91spe 182 in tw :3

[craggy dagger]

that’s
still kinda slow for a tailwind mon isn’t it

[shadow wind]

Should be a CIR check

But it isn’t

[craggy dagger]

ah
the jokes that ice rider isn’t a tailwind mon

[mighty stump]

Correct - that’s because it doesn’t do anything with the resistances it has

HPump is inaccurate

Wisp is inaccurate

But

Trick Rotom pretty good

[shadow wind]

With what other moves?

Volt switch
Pump
Wisp
?

[mighty stump]

VSwitch/Pump/TBolt/Trick

[shadow wind]

I guess another attacking move is probably better

But like scarf or specs?

I know scarf is typically better but I feel like if the slot is open specs could work

[untold urchin]

incineroar

[molten oasis]

Why y’all cooking Rotom?

[shadow wind]

Goated pokemon

Washing machine

[molten oasis]

Valid

[shadow wind]

Too bad it SUCKS

[chrome knot]

https://pokepast.es/08ad172b35323fb5 @craggy dagger WHY NOT.

[mighty stump]

If the MU is for CIR then either works, probably Scarf if for TR

[shadow wind]

Yeah

Nah

Choice band, trust me

[chrome knot]

i really wanted chien pao on here but then i just monolose to incin

[dull ibex]

Hello guys

[shadow wind]

Hey

[mint void]

Hello

How are we?

[shadow wind]

We’re gaming

[untold urchin]

i swear i see you everywhere now

[patent marsh]

Goated Mon

[untold urchin]

charizard

[patent marsh]

The bestest of the best

[untold urchin]

gholdengo

[patent marsh]

Cheeseman got names to take down

[untold urchin]

hmm i see

very insightful on the state of vgc right now, thanks Kumi

[patent marsh]

Merry Christmas don't go to sleep

Or not Santa will steal your socks

Or something idk

[untold urchin]

im not wearing socks

[patent marsh]

Even worse unprotected from Santa

[mint void]

I was here before. Im juat in raids cause of the event

[mighty stump]

I just dropped bank on perfume

I smell like a chinese teahouse

@chrome knot omg i have the most slay white tshirt now

[mint void]

@mighty stump u have a fav?

[chrome knot]

W

[molten oasis]

Why did it cost so much?

[chrome knot]

https://x.com/ponyui0728/status/1871511143228854664

ぽんゆい (@ponyui0728) on X

メリークリスマス🎄✨

Twitter · Dec 24, 2024, 11:00 AM

@mighty stump (!!!!!)

[outer pecan]

Just costs a lot especially if you buy so much

Perfume is expensive

[mint void]

Meh there are budget perfumes

That are great and cheap

[outer pecan]

Exactly(:

Some brands are over expensive

[mint void]

?

[outer pecan]

😑?

[mighty stump]

Well so far I have Diptyque’s Bois Corse

and Killian’s Imperial Tea

I really like Van Cleef’s Bois D’amande

But stil thinking about it

But I like both equally

Im just building up my collection

Mmm I have samples coming from The Zoologist and d’Amman coming

[mighty stump]

cute

[mighty stump]

Dunno

Probably the brand, some degree of artistry into making perfumes, scent and strength and quality

I don’t mind

Luxury goods are meant to be bought far and few in between and valued and thats how I approach it and I intend to use it rather than have tjem collect dust

I intend to have a buy once approach

@mint void Wbu what do you like? Any recommendations?

Oh @molten oasis Perfumes imo r also super personal, cause it depends on how you perceive the scent and how it works with your skin chemistry too

[mint void]

I like Kahmmrah the Lataffa budget one

[mighty stump]

Oo the more spiced stuff

[mint void]

Nice winter fragrance

[mighty stump]

I like earthy scents, tonka bean, coffee, tea

[mighty stump]

I’m so jealous

Im in a perpetually tropic weather

I can’t wear a lot of the tobacco scents I want to cuz of it

[mint void]

It smells like u the brown spice sticks

I forgot the English name

[mighty stump]

Cinnamon?

[mint void]

Yes

[mighty stump]

Cute

I wish it was winter

or I had winter

Currently my fixation is to build myself aesthetically and that includes how I present myself, so appearance, fragrance, energy

My 2025 character creator project

[molten oasis]

interesting

[mighty stump]

I believe how you smell also changes how people perceive you so

[dull ibex]

We're about to open presents

[mint void]

@mighty stump mine has been set back by stupid bullshit

[mint void]

Fosho

[molten oasis]

What is your time frame?

It’s 4 am for me lmao

[dull ibex]

6;15

[molten oasis]

Damn lol

[dull ibex]

I've been up since 3ish

[mighty stump]

Au naur

What happened

Tbf I only have the means to commit to this now

25 years of no identity sucked

[timber falcon]

Merry Christmas

When does the next reg start? I’ve kinda just been shiny hunting whilst waiting for a fresh start

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/piddel-piddel-meme-piddel-gaming-piddel-pain-pain-gif-26176777

[left bobcat]

Pain

[next stump]

merry christmas to those who celebrate

[chrome knot]

merey chrimmaassss

[mighty stump]

Merry Christmas to those who don’t celebrate!!! I evened things out

[next stump]

[left bobcat]

[chrome knot]

@mighty stump FUCK YOU!!!!! TURNS U INTO

tofu i got a buncha clothes thatll make me look extremely gay

[mighty stump]

omg show

[chrome knot]

eventually

[mighty stump]

Bet

I cant wait to show off the new clothes Im getting

[chrome knot]

but i got 3 sweaters, 2 striped shirts & floral type jeans :3

[mighty stump]

Dk you wanna see the new accessories I’m ordering

[chrome knot]

yeah

[chrome knot]

ooooo

[mighty stump]

Its from a Sri Lankan jeweller

Their work is beautiful

They’re based in London

[bold geode]

Merry Christmas chat

[bold geode]

My response

[left bobcat]

No

[lofty tartan]

Know the feels - also I agree about the perception of person via how they smell xD

[torn parrot]

Garry bismuck

🎄

[torn parrot]

It fits!!!!

https://tenor.com/view/celebration-tuvigif-himouto-umaruchan-anime-gif-7399759

[torn parrot]

I want a stuffie

[mighty stump]

I got told I was a Great Dane by my colleagues

Because I’m built like a brick shithouse yet I spook easy

[atomic portal]

people tell me im a wolf cuz im the alpha 💪

[left bobcat]

[bold geode]

BOO

[left bobcat]

SHOO

[mighty stump]

You should have asked Santa for better jokes instead of this coal of a joke he left for you

[torn parrot]

I hope you all hit your hydro pumps this year

Except for emma

[mint void]

Accident. Out of commission for at least 11 months

[mighty stump]

Oh dear, I hope your situation improves readily

[mint void]

@shadow wind Hope u hit ur precipe Blades next year.

[torn parrot]

That might be too much to ask

I hope he hits 10% more than usual

Uwu

[mighty stump]

@chrome knot The Mirai team actually is working

[bold geode]

Nah I asked him for VGC skill
But apparently I was on the naughty list

[wispy spade]

Does reflect and aurora veil lower self earthquake damage?

[still ridge]

It should reduce the damage yes

[tiny karma]

Move: Aurora Veil

For 5 turns, the user and its party members take 0.5x damage from physical and special attacks, or 0.66x damage if in a Double Battle; does not reduce damage further with Reflect or Light Screen. Critical hits ignore this protection. It is removed from the user's side if the user or an ally is successfully hit by Brick Break, Psychic Fangs, or Defog. Brick Break and Psychic Fangs remove the effect before damage is calculated. Lasts for 8 turns if the user is holding Light Clay. Fails unless the weather is Snow.

Type

Ice

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

20 (32)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Snatch

Affected by Snatch.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[mint void]

"Lowers damage done by physical and special moves." kjust of that Id say yes

[wispy spade]

Thank you

[mint void]

We love everyone. Not just on Christmas

[junior blade]

hey guys, so i know singles isnt that competitive and everything but if there would be someone who could help me upgrade or change my singles team i would be very thankful

i was trying to do hisui samurott lead hyper offense but i was also using things like archaludon, dragapult and other but i just cant connect them and give them their best movesets for like a team and if anyone could dm me i would send my pokemons and team and it would be awesome if anyone really could help

[next stump]

Unfortunately it’ll be tough to find someone here who plays singles enough to help out. Do you play in game or on Showdown? that’ll help narrow it down a bit

[still ridge]

I used to play a lot of singles, some of my MVP pokemon were skeledirge, corviknight and ting lu

[junior blade]

eh.. i mean i do play showdown sometimes but it just feels stupid when all i do there is change my team non stop and see more and more team weaknesses

[still ridge]

Dragon dance Dragonite is pretty frightening if not prepared for as well, multi scale makes him hard to kill before he sets up

[junior blade]

thats what i was making my team with

[junior blade]

its actually pretty eazy to ohko it with rapid spin great tusk with ice spinner or skeledirge stall it

[still ridge]

Obviously there's counters to it, but if not prepared it can easily sweep

[dense latch]

i think you’d be better off with cloak whim and sash pao, or reducing your defensive evs if you’re gonna run sash

[junior blade]

yep i usually plan to counter everything but i wanted to use pelliper archaludon in singles and i dont know the good ev spread for pelliper as i just gave him max health and spA

[still ridge]

From my experience in singles, it's nice to have sp. Def and phys def walls to switch into

Eviolite Chansey can be a menace if you kill their physical attackers first

[junior blade]

slowking galar or hydrapple

i mean i wanted to do samurott hisui w focus sash, dragapult/meowscarada w choice band, archaludon w power herb, flutter mane w booster energy, great tusk w rocky helmet and then i always dont know what would be a good sixth pokemon

[next stump]

I think oger rock is better personally

[still ridge]

Just thought about this, you doing showdown 6v6 singles or online one on switch

[junior blade]

some of this and some of that

mostly showdown and i messed up my team

[still ridge]

6v6 co.pletely different meta

[molten oasis]

Usually it’s power whip/wood hammer over horn leech and follow me over swords dance

Power whip to not break your sturdy

[next stump]

^ yep, power whip is nice because it doesn’t get rid of sturdy, and then you’d run 252ATK/SPE with a jolly nature

[dense latch]

follow me is half the reason ogerpon is used imo

[molten oasis]

You will likely never have time to set up a swords dance on this team

And follow me is a major point in using ogerpon like erik said

[solid frigate]

why is Giratina here-

[junior blade]

well.. i was once using it for defog

[foggy lodge]

koraidon may be a bit broken for double restricted 252+ Atk Orichalcum Pulse Koraidon Scale Shot (4 hits) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Chien-Pao: 156-184 (100.6 - 118.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[torn parrot]

Pretty freakin scary

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2269475901

[torn parrot]

I’m sleepy

[mighty stump]

@chrome knot Need thoughts

I realised my Mirai teams' line is kinda 50/50 on whether or not they VSwitch or Gleam wop

oh

actually

VSwitch is favourable

Nevermind

[left bobcat]

PARABOLIC CHARGE

I got power

[bold geode]

My dumbass during Mirai MUs keeps protecting Zama to scout what move the Mirai will use even though they always V Switch

[foggy lodge]

Ice spinnerrrrrr

[molten oasis]

Pao’s ice spinner when it gets evaporated by volt switch and then Mirai gets terrain back

[vocal anvil]

guys

who to kill duralodon

iI don't know a pokemon capable of taking him down

[chrome knot]

ursaluna

sneasler, gholdengo, mainly any SpAtker or any fighting type that can get there before u stack stamina boosts

[torn parrot]

@balmy glen what was it like voicing shadow

I appreciate your contribution

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-movie-3-fearless-year-of-shadow-year-of-shadow-shadow-the-hedgehog-shadow-gif-17160615083128869997

[balmy glen]

pretty cool tbh

[balmy glen]

?

I ice spinnered everyone at worlds lmao

[molten oasis]

I don’t run sash it was a joke

[balmy glen]

whattt

[molten oasis]

Tofu got me on LORB stellar shit

[balmy glen]

ew

[molten oasis]

It’s funny you can almost OHKO CIR

[bold geode]

@balmy glen look what I got

[torn parrot]

A real one runs CHOICE BAND

https://tenor.com/view/angry-anime-neko-funny-funny-anime-gif-16420737

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/78e1ffe106724027 the current sauce (it is not good into miraidon but tofu thought this was ok)

[torn parrot]

Might try kyogre cus then I can run tsareena or raichu and that makes me happy

Uwu

[foggy lodge]

Sometimes i forget that Chien-Pao's item is sash

Like my brain erradicates sash from the team and when Chien-Pao survives something is like i turn off and think its like sturdy or something idk

[foggy lodge]

you like reg H right

You can play Basculegion with itttt

[molten oasis]

Lmao

I might need the sash but also sash shifu is kinda really nice

[foggy lodge]

Sash shifu broken

[molten oasis]

When is shifu not broken

[torn parrot]

I loved reg H

I felt free

free to do what I want

But that’s over now so
We’ll see what I come up with next

[atomic portal]

the king and the goat

[shadow wind]

I can't be the goat

There's 32 people higher than me

[atomic portal]

blue was champion before red, but red is still the mc

[solid frigate]

Keanu it appears you are in

[molten oasis]

Where iron hands

[vocal anvil]

annyone help

[next stump]

made the same comment earlier, but ogerpon rock is something to consider

[mint void]

^

[craggy dagger]

i know it sounds a little odd but im also liking wellspring onto that team-

[chrome knot]

novanovanova

[craggy dagger]

emmaemmaemmaemma

[solid frigate]

reeeeeeeeeee

[chrome knot]

haiiiiii ^-^

[craggy dagger]

hi hiiii
merry christmas :3

[chrome knot]

merry chrimmasssss

[craggy dagger]

you plan anythin special to do-
or
i should say did you do anything special-
forgot you were 3 hours ahead of me

[chrome knot]

ehehehe im vry antisocial so not rlyyyy :3

i had the typical socially awkward moment this morning for brunch and my whole brain shut off so ive been away in my room today >.<

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

https://tenor.com/view/helpurseif-bunny-cute-bunny-rabbit-tired-gif-10900473004968199607

[chrome knot]

i just a bunny :<

[craggy dagger]

[bold geode]

Merry Christmas bestie

[bold geode]

Merry Christmas Emma

[craggy dagger]

merry easter monke

[chrome knot]

happy birthday @bold geode

[molten oasis]

@bold geode

https://tenor.com/view/endermilf-mercy-kiss-cat-gif-20332675

[bold geode]

Happy Hanukah Emma

[chrome knot]

happy halloween!!

[bold geode]

Graceful Thanksgiving

[chrome knot]

i have to close on boxing day tmrw do i kill myself infront of managers??

[bold geode]

What
Ox wait your Black Friday

Eeeeehhhh
Just sit in the deep fryer

Make em look at your body as the fucking fryers just keep going off

[chrome knot]

HUH

oh

[solid frigate]

wtf

[bold geode]

No not like that LMAO

That'd be something too
Like a budget Titanic scene
"Draw me like one of your French fries"

Wait @chrome knot you said new clothes right? Can me sees if that's ok

[chrome knot]

not rn

[bold geode]

Ah I see I see

Did I already show you my Zam plushie?

I got a big Eevee plush, a sitting cutie of Chimchar, and a Zamazenta plush

As well as this pretty controller

[chrome knot]

yus zam looks sillygoose

[plain drum]

Pikachu is going to bite your thumb

[bold geode]

I got him from Walmart

[chrome knot]

i got pc parts that makes my build less expensive

[bold geode]

It was that or Amazon anyways cuz the website was sold out of Zamazenta

But it don't look bad for where it came from

Was like you buy it thru website and it gets shipped from wherever

But I got this from the Pokemon Center website

[plain drum]

Monke

[bold geode]

How much less expensive? Idk much about computers so like

[chrome knot]

my total cost went from 2100 —> 1700

[bold geode]

Damn that's nice
Is that still like
How good price is that for PCs?

[chrome knot]

which checked off
cpu cooler
tower
ssd
harddrive

so now i just needa order
cpu
motherboard
gpu
ram
power supply

[bold geode]

Damn

Cuz I'm genuinely curious, how much on average this shit cost

[chrome knot]

depends what u want

i wanted to upgrade to a high end pc so im building my own instead of ordering a prebuilt

[bold geode]

Ah
So like what if you went like
Middle of road in terms of price for parts
Like not the cheapest but not like expensive
Cuz like I'm imagining what 5k based on what I'm seeing

[next stump]

probs like 1k-1500 for average good PC

[bold geode]

Oh that's not bad

How long do like the parts last before you have to like
Do any replacement or maintenance

[next stump]

mine gets 144FPS on the games i play and i spent maybe $2000 on everything including monitor

long long time assuming you take care of it

[bold geode]

Oh right I try to take care of my electronics

[next stump]

i’m on year 4 or 5 with no issues just taking care of it and cleaning it

[bold geode]

That's good I was like man having PC has to be a fuckin hassle but like that don't sound that bad

[chrome knot]

becoming an evil fucking scientist so i can run newer games at my monitor refresh rate bruh

[bold geode]

Actually funny thing mentioning consoles right
So I bought a PS5 right
But I lay mine horizontal cuz in order to stand it vertical like it advertised you needed a little screw in the base in order to keep it stable and I lost that screw

But like a year after getting it and keeping it horizontal right

I see this fucking news article

Apparently the PS5s at the time that stood vertical didn't last near as long as the ones sat horizontal because it'd get too hot, some shit inside it would melt and cuz of gravity it'd go downwards and fuck up the ENTIRE inside of the console LMAO

The one time where I was like "damn my stupidity saved me" cuz like
I was gonna stand it up
Horizontal takes up like a third of my fuckin dresser

[molten oasis]

THATS YOURS?

[bold geode]

Anyways I got a lot of shit and I REALLY need to arrange shit in my room tomorrow

[bold geode]

WHO'S DID YOU THINK IT WAS

[molten oasis]

I thought it was a random picture you found online

[bold geode]

No bro I HAVE IT

It is literally sitting on a shelf in my room right this second

[molten oasis]

I need a Zac plushie man lol

They’re all also like $150 online

[bold geode]

Even in like Amazon or other places?

[molten oasis]

Idt Amazon has any

[bold geode]

My mom literally found mine perusing through online Walmart one day LMAO

[molten oasis]

That’s nuts

[bold geode]

There was a ton on Amazon for me
The only thing is like
Making sure they're new condition

But beware you can have delays cuz apparently my Zam was delayed twice

But yes that was mine and yes his face is a little squished in but bro carries a shield around his neck, can you really blame him

I mean he carries around a rusty shield just for some extra damage on STAB Body Press. Why? Cuz he's just the fucking goat bro. No discussion, Zamazenta the fucking goat. His rookie year might've been an eye soar, but he came back and he fuckin balled

[molten oasis]

noted

I want a shifu plush as well, if that exists

[bold geode]

Be surprised if it didn't

[molten oasis]

Holy shit

I love him so much lol

It’s so derpy

[naive drift]

Looking for suggestions for an in game team and (Casual matches) for singles focusing on two Pokemon; Skeledirge, and Kyurem black. Using Alolan ninetails to setup snow and veil, and Miraidon for electric terrain for boosted fusion bolt. Thanks in advance and happy holidays everyone!

[faint cedar]

i love the idea but i fear im not good enough at team building yet to assist lmao

[solid frigate]

if its Casual then just go with anything

[solid frigate]

Minus the Restricteds,if its a doubles Comp,its very good.

[left bobcat]

Yeah all that

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2269723561

[next stump]

your opponent clicking bulk up there is wild

[solid frigate]

Yeah when Whimsicott is right there-\

[shadow wind]

Is it just a visual bug that Hydro Steam doesn't get boosted by rain?

On showdown I mean

Actually now thinking about it

Normal water moves don't get a visable boost

So it's probably like that

[left bobcat]

Hooooo

[left bobcat]

Imma be honest for a second I thought that was Conner

[shadow wind]

Pretty close

Lotsa g's and a Groudon

It's on brand

[left bobcat]

But I was like- nah I don’t think Conner runs bulk up

[shadow wind]

Literally right now

[left bobcat]

…..

I stand corrected

FIYA punch

[shadow wind]

Nah

Not no mo

I realized how nice a 120 BP move is

[left bobcat]

Ah shucks

[shadow wind]

Also why do Armarouge and Raging bolt have the same base speed

Seems odd to me

[left bobcat]

Hmmmmmmm

Armarouge doesn’t even look fast

[craggy dagger]

it’s quite fast
well
faster than you think

[shadow wind]

It is NOT fast

[torn parrot]

ayo not bad for pawmot

[torn parrot]

pawmot my queen

carrying me

[mighty stump]

Your username sounds like pyometra ☠️

[torn parrot]

i button mashed cus i was lazy ):

lol

thats why theres a random space between the rest of the name and test

[knotty mirage]

I have question is physical attack stat necessary to power up foul play or it's unnafacted by it ?

Just want to know if i need to bottle cap attack IV on my farigiraf so it deal more damage with foul play

[lofty tartan]

It uses the target's attack stat, not yours. So no.

[knotty mirage]

Ah alright then

[faint cedar]

do we have any idea for a non-typical zamazenta reg g team?

[faint cedar]

wait so my accidental mixed archaludon might actually be not awful
is it heavy enough that heavy slam with a bit of attack investment will let it check flutter mane reliably?

[dull ibex]

vc?

[charred saddle]

no. funnily enough archaludon is not heavy

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 1018: Archaludon

Types

Steel/Dragon

Abilities

Stamina, Sturdy, Stalwart (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/105/130/125/65/85

Total

600

Weight (Low Kick BP)

60kg (80 BP)

Height

2m

Introduced

Generation 9

Pre-evolution

Duraludon

Egg groups

Mineral, Dragon

Gender Ratio

M: 50%, F: 50%

Color

White

Sableye version 4.28.1

[charred saddle]

60 kg only lol

[lofty tartan]

It's aluminum. Light and durable.

Durable Duraludon

[mighty stump]

You’re spamming EShot 90% of the time anyways

[chrome knot]

0- Atk Archaludon Heavy Slam (120 BP) vs. 212 HP / 132 Def Flutter Mane: 168-198 (107 - 126.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

dont be stupid guys i know u remember arch running heavy slam for specifically this reason

[chrome knot]

always yes

[dull ibex]

https://discord.com/channels/663661005514997770/1321722450077286520

[old tulip]

Anybody have a suggestion I can add as a 6th slot for this Reg G sun team? Any help would be appreciated!

[mighty stump]

Chi-Yu over Charizard, Flutter Mane is so free here, Tusk is pretty terrible considering how many strong neutral SpAtkers we have in the format

Chi-Yu outright hits harder than Zard

and is better into CSR

[old tulip]

Thank you!!!

[mighty stump]

Make sure to run Icy Wind on Flutter

[old tulip]

On it!

[bold geode]

@mighty stump @dull ibex weegeecee?

[dull ibex]

im in vc rn

[faint cedar]

my atk investment still doesnt matter cuz 0- still hits hard 😭

but at least it works ty for the help all

[mighty stump]

Its really not worth it though

You beat Flutter Mane sure but now you lose Steel STAB against other things

[chrome knot]

you cannot reliably kill flutter w/o it

[faint cedar]

so what youre telling me is mixed archaludon may still have hope

because it can check flutter while also still having investment in its only hope for steel-type STAB

i made it by accident but god damn it i will make it work on PURPOSE if it's the last thing i do in this game

[charred saddle]

its not that i dont remember. its more that its only reliable to fluttermane

if other mon goes fairy tera and you only have heavy slam for it, its not gonna be reliable

id rather have like flash cannon/ have other mon to deal with arch

and also arch isnt really good to flutter in the first place i think

[chrome knot]

heres the fun part abt tera fairy

you become neutral to literally everything in the game

except dragon dark and bug

[mighty stump]

Well, I’m not saying its outright bad, I think it’s preference. I really didn’t find it worth it

[chrome knot]

for having 1 job its quite effective

[cyan smelt]

What's wrong with flash cannon

[chrome knot]

doesnt ohko

[cyan smelt]

Oh

[left bobcat]

Coach is right if we wanna win it’s on us ☝️😼

[bold geode]

Huh?

[torn parrot]

Goo goo gaa gaa

Gxe is so easily changed in early ladder

It’s really crazy

[left bobcat]

Crazy spooky

[torn parrot]

You can lose a game lose a whole percent

Or a half of a percent

[next stump]

Hey mate, I really don't mean to be rude but this is meant to be a competitive discussion channel where people actively discuss the game. 99% of the messages I've seen from you are just random jokes that aren't even funny. Keep it on topic or find another chat to troll in

[little plank]

The climb with groudon and yanmega continues lol couldnt play the last 2 days because of the holidays so.

[torn parrot]

Fuckin rad yanmega king

Isn’t it a little annoying to lead sabalye yanmega tho

How u pivot out

Am I calcing this wrong…

Or….do Urshifus literally have to be jolly in tailwind to outspeed booster flutter…?

[next stump]

that's correct i believe

or scarf adamant

[torn parrot]

😭 that is so rough

Wow

Jolly it is !!!

[molten oasis]

No?

Well you mean max speed flutter?

Do people run max speed flutter?

[torn parrot]

Yeah I imagine so

I imagine it’s even more popular now to

[gentle crag]

Result: 307.500000

[torn parrot]

With all of its rivals

[molten oasis]

Idt people run max speed

[torn parrot]

wait not rivals

Uh

Yeah but calcing for max speed seems safe anyway

[molten oasis]

You’re gonna miss out on damage

What else is on the team

[torn parrot]

This is true…

[little plank]

Yanmega 1hkos urshi with air slash

[torn parrot]

Just the normal pawmot team i was testing assault vest on Urshifu cus I wanted to be a bit fatter

I wanted some wiggle room

[molten oasis]

That tells me nothing idk what’s on it

[molten oasis]

I can give you a super bulky shifu

[torn parrot]

Sure thing

[molten oasis]

If you want bulk you have to sacrifice speed or attack

And if you have flutter answers that’s usually speed

Urshifu-Rapid-Strike @ Mystic Water
Ability: Unseen Fist
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 108 HP / 156 Atk / 4 Def / 180 SpD / 60 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Surging Strikes
• Close Combat
• Aqua Jet
• Detect

Eats tclap

[little plank]

@torn parrot https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2269972583-eexfiq8643jtbjqouzq216n7qj9emt7pw just a lil glimpse of the powa lol

[bold geode]

Maybe with like Sun Sash sets?

[mighty stump]

Yer

[molten oasis]

Does a normal booster flutter run max speed?

[bold geode]

Idt anything other than Sash is particularly running max speed timid most the time
And with Sash they're usually run with Sun now so Urshifu wouldn't be doing much anyways unless you had your own weather override

[molten oasis]

mk

[bold geode]

I'm definitely not
Hell Flutter I'm using rn actually kinda slow LMAO
I think it's about time now that my play is a tiny bit better that I actually try putting some of my spreads on this shit

Plus now that I have a better idea of what I'm doing

[molten oasis]

I’ve barely been playing the last few days

[mighty stump]

I got one that eats tclap, wild charge from Iron Hands, and Moonblast from Specs Modest Mane after Water Tera

[molten oasis]

Been busy, and I’m gonna be busy today cuz I’m moving furniture around

[bold geode]

I think my issue like and somehow this happened here even though it's a rehash
I'm just ass at early formats

[molten oasis]

How much attack does that guy have?

[mighty stump]

Like 188 final stat

[molten oasis]

Oh eating wild charge isn’t that hard

[bold geode]

Like my play wasn't that great but also like
It's too hard to try and break things when it's early

[molten oasis]

Is the shifu just slow asf then?