competitive_discussion

[torn parrot]

dinner is needed for me

pokerus is probably the most anticlimactic thing in pokemon

its a myterious virus that infects your box

turns out its just fuckin ev training boost

[rustic mountain]

i mean thats best case scenario u want ur mons to be infected w/ something acually fatal?

🤨

[torn parrot]

yeah that would be cooler

give me stakes

[rustic mountain]

bruh

[torn parrot]

want my pokemon to be at risk of death so they feel real

[rustic mountain]

go read a seinen

[strange fjord]

status-less toxic poison-like damage in battle when infected and then reduced damage from poison when cured? hows that sound for an in-game virus mechanic?

like happiness based RNG mechanics, disabled in online battles

[torn parrot]

yeah that would be pretty cool

[left bobcat]

https://pokepast.es/2e04c77071825d31

this team has been doing me some good but i just feel like theirs room for improvement

[molten oasis]

i wonder if my want to play niche shit is just out of boredom

because i enjoy the game weirdly

[knotty mirage]

I mean you can try i even try slotting regieleki on my team for the funny

[rustic mountain]

top 500 on cart rn try to make a top 100 push b4 the end of the month

[charred saddle]

pog

[knotty briar]

Working on a rain team for reg G
What should my last mon be?

[solid frigate]

thats just too much water types-

[knotty briar]

What improvements can recommend?

[molten oasis]

Yk there was a basc shifu kyogre team that did well at worlds right?

[solid frigate]

Archaludon and Ogerpon can be removed,as Archaludon is quite mid in reg G and Ogerpon overlapped the role with Urshifu Replace with Rilla and Bolt would help your Miraidon MU a lot,Scarf Ogre i kinda would not recommend as Its Faster than Koraidon meaning Koraidon mostly will get Sun,and you can’t get Rain back since Tornadus does not have Prankster Rain Dance

[solid frigate]

you do realise that this is worlds calibur And this is other thing

[craggy dagger]

yup

banded swift swim basc

doesn’t care about fake out and does a bunch of damage

[torn parrot]

that is ussually the source of the desire, wanting to entertain yourself

[knotty briar]

Should I run booster energy or vest bolt?

[torn parrot]

the norm gets boring

[solid frigate]

Either is fine but if there is Rilla in the team then Usually Booster

[knotty briar]

Gotcha

[molten oasis]

You do know there was a basc shifu kyogre team that did well at worlds right?

Too much water is a lame argument

[solid frigate]

You dont have to say it twice i saw that first time

And i do not want to make a Mario Sunshine reference on that team

[molten oasis]

You do know there was a basc shifu kyogre team that did well at worlds right?

[mighty stump]

I would consider some form of Anti-priority to be honest. Additionally wtf do you do against Miraidon

[solid frigate]

dies instantly

[mighty stump]

Like Waterpon feels kinda meh aside from the redirection which is like ok

Ig it helps against your Watershifu mirror

[torn parrot]

tsareeeeena!

[mighty stump]

Yeah

Triple Axel Tsareena necessary methinks

I would have it over Pon

[solid frigate]

tbf it already overlaps with Urshifu’s Role so Tsareena makes a lot of sense

and i mean role i mean a Physical Water type attacker

[mighty stump]

Ehh I would say there isn’t overlap

[knotty briar]

Ok this is what I've got so far
Any ideas on the 6th mon?

[mighty stump]

Just that I’m not seeing much benefit from having it there

Erm Bolt and Rilla is ok, I would still want anti priority and almost consider tera Ghost for Kyogre if you’re going Specs

[knotty briar]

So farig or tsarena?

Ok how does this look?

[charred saddle]

nova nova

have u seen what i cooked

[craggy dagger]

yeah
it’s definitely an interesting team

[balmy glen]

Try taunt Tsareena over Farig tbh

[craggy dagger]

i’m justttttt
looking at the loaded dice bramble-

[balmy glen]

Also don’t use sitrus berry in reg g it’s like very rare for it to be good

[craggy dagger]

incin > rilla
AV bolt
Tsareena > fari

[craggy dagger]

it’s nice on incin and moongus but not much else iirc

[balmy glen]

no not really

its kinda mid on those as well tbh

[craggy dagger]

oh-

[solid frigate]

Calyrex:Your Berry Freedom has been confiscated

[balmy glen]

like there’s just better items in reg g cuz the calys are everywhere u don’t want an unfavorable mu going into a Caly game especially for incins lol

Caly + Amoongus is a usual thing so not having safety goggles is pretty annoying depending on the team

like terapagos/Caly ice teams can go rocky helmet incin for instance cuz they have a check for CSR or the Amoongus and force Tera’s

[solid frigate]

Rocky Helmet Incin the Goat

[balmy glen]

As for Amoongus Rocky helmet/covert/mental herb just gives so much more instant prsssure value in this regulation

[solid frigate]

and Expecting Urshifu is gonna be everywhere,Yeah Rocky Helm is usually the better item for Amogus in Terapagos Teams(Speak from Experience)

[dull ibex]

Vc?

[molten oasis]

hm, what is there to do with zac this format, cuz idk if i just wanna play unoptimal teams

zac balance was what i played last reg and i got pretty bored of it when i played recently, hm

[craggy dagger]

oh true

[knotty briar]

I've never used tsareena before
Got any advice for moves or evs?

[molten oasis]

also sucks i dont really have interest in other restricteds

[solid frigate]

im not a Tsareena Expert

Usuaally the ability is Queenly Majesty and Use Triple Axel,Protect and idk

[molten oasis]

except kyurem white, who isn't really a good mon

[solid frigate]

i mean you do Hyperfixated on Zacian which is Valid,Its a fun restricted

Is there anyone similar tho thats the thing

[molten oasis]

no

[solid frigate]

exactly

[knotty briar]

I'm currently thinking taunt, triple axel, trop kick, and protect for the moves on tsareena

[molten oasis]

i just wish there was stuff to do with it beyond regidrago HO stuff with chi yu and balance with shifu, which the latter is fine but i just kinda wanna do smth else

there also, isnt, anything else to do, so idk

[solid frigate]

i mean have you tried Creph’s Sauce
(He murdered everyone using the Roaring Moon Sauce)

i could ask him The sauce

[molten oasis]

i dont really know what roaring moon does for this format, like sure fast anti CSR guy but its so easy to manage it i feel

[charred saddle]

any idea how to use Garticuno? hm

[molten oasis]

i feel like i want a team that does well into the big 3

[solid frigate]

i dont have any idea on it also welcome back btw

[molten oasis]

so both calys, and miraidon zac already handles ok, so mostly calys

but CIR always feels so god damn hard to beat no matter what i use, which i need mu practice for but it still feels so frustrating

hasn't clicked ig

[balmy glen]

Zacian is good anti meta

[knotty briar]

I happen to have a Calyrex-ice team if you wanna practice against it

[solid frigate]

i think its just how you interpret on how the fuck you beat CIR

CIR in Single Restricted is just god what the hell is going in

[balmy glen]

Just use Kiyan Cambells Zacian team tbh

farms Caly ice

[molten oasis]

because of umbreon

is that the umbreon team?

[solid frigate]

I mean Umbreon works tho

[balmy glen]

Mhm

[molten oasis]

it works i didn't really ever get it to click for me

failed to understand the yawn pressure, ugh idk

[balmy glen]

wdym

[mighty stump]

I can teach you all about Yawn pressure

Hahaha

[balmy glen]

yawn is yawn

[molten oasis]

yea

i suck at using yawn

[balmy glen]

how

[mighty stump]

What were you sort of having trouble with?

[molten oasis]

i just do it doesn't click with me

[balmy glen]

you just click yawn then double a slot xd

[molten oasis]

when to click it over foul play or snarl, mostly for CSR

[mighty stump]

When in doubt just Yawn cuz its almost always safe

[molten oasis]

that team didn't click for me

[solid frigate]

how to make people sleep

Just use Yawn Umbreon

[mighty stump]

If you’re never in KO range of anything, you prioritise using Yawn control since Sleep pressure is far more crippling than any damage output Umbreon delivers unelss you’re ensuring a KO

[solid frigate]

i tried with Lunala and i think its nice

So Zac would still wotk

[mighty stump]

You also prioritise the carries/threats on the board so you can force a trade with Sleep

Generally you always have to consider what their swaps are but if you know what theyre bringing

Its easier to work around as well

From there you need to be aware of what board positions are advantageous for you to trade in safely - as in not needing to consider doubljng a protect

[charred saddle]

oi tofu kapan free

[mighty stump]

Like if you can envision if the switches are able to screw up your Yawn pressure you play around that

[charred saddle]

gw lg libur, mau bkin team ni

time for another class bg

[mighty stump]

Wkwk ya kalau ada waktu gw kan kerja full time skrg

[solid frigate]

oh god the Indonesian convo strikes back lol

[molten oasis]

i'll just have to learn if i do that, i also just kinda wish i had some, thing, to work on without playing a prebuilt team

idk why my brain works that way

[charred saddle]

oh damn gl

[molten oasis]

i'll put the umbreon stuff in the builder

[mighty stump]

Think of it fundanentally:

• Yawn forces either a switch or a dead slot
• This means you’re consider 3 different board positions most of time where:

1. They stay in and Sleep
2. They switch into one mon
3. They switch into the other mon

So you just simply judge whether or not you consider to do a Yawn the same slot, Yawn the other slot or double a slot

[molten oasis]

ok, i'll try if i dont hyperfixate on building something myself

cuz thats what i tend to end up doing

hate the way my brain operates sometimes

[mighty stump]

I mean imo, good Yawn users are splashable

Its valuable for highly aggressive mons like Zacian and CSR

You’re restricting their options regarindg momentum that stops them from answering yours

[molten oasis]

i like tools like that

i'll see how it feels the next time i play

i cant build for shit, probably shouldn't bother for now

[solid frigate]

you have 2 more weeks for actual reg G and i havent locked into a Team for Birmingham

[molten oasis]

didn't get anywhere last reg might a well sit in the background

[molten oasis]

i still feel like i cant acomplish anything rn, and its not like i have plans for the format right now because all i can really do is play stuff other people have made, which isnt a bad thing

but idk if i feel confident i can actually learn the team, or find anything to genuinely work on

less motivated if its just playing prebuilt over trying to make smth, or im stupid idfk

[mighty stump]

We can always have a review session if you want

Do like 5 games or 5 sets and we can work through them

[charred saddle]

tofu, any idea on how Garticuno work?

[solid frigate]

I mean im down to help Drago if i have time

(Even if i have to focus on Birmingham more)

Lunala On Birmingham moment

[molten oasis]

idk what i wanna do rn

i feel like i both wanna improve and find a, mon, specifically, to work on, which should just be zac, but i have the stupid itch to try putting something else niche on.

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/68f52790997f6def
@mighty stump sorry for ping but is this good enough for CM Lunala

I just need team review since i might bring Lunala to Birmingham

[molten oasis]

i'd appreciate that i just need to get in the mood/get time for it.

probably spiraling and being depressed because im tired, buddy also just left on his mission, shit sucks lol

https://pokepast.es/fc0bd9042fc41b82 i'll try this, maybe go back to what i had last reg, idfk

[craggy dagger]

[dull ibex]

https://discord.com/channels/663661005514997770/1318785454165852160 in a vgc mood

[charred saddle]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2265236948

fuck you zama

[knotty briar]

Zama was not having a good day

[charred saddle]

true

[knotty briar]

3 turn sleep followed by a freeze...

Now to be fair, the articuno player was making some great plays

But yeah, that luck still hurts to see

[solid frigate]

better than Being Double Freezed twice in the same week-

[knotty briar]

Oh damn

My... uh... my condolences to your sanity?

[charred saddle]

i was the articuno player tho, thanks

[solid frigate]

Just ask Drago what happened after that cuz i developed PTSD over that lol

[knotty briar]

Ok now that know that I don't have to hold back
Why the hell did the zama player bring Lando?
That was not a game to bring lando

[charred saddle]

they did

on the back

oh idk hahaa

[knotty briar]

A game against a Kyogre team
Not what I would call a lando game lol

Galar articuno alone is enough of a lando deterrent imo

Ok got that out of my system lol

[charred saddle]

i mean it is a low ladder haha

[knotty briar]

That explains it

I'm currently ranked in the top 400 so I haven't seen low ladder for a while

I honestly forgot just how ridiculous it it there lol

[real prairie]

I was in top 150 and have somehow falled back to 1100 🤣 I don't know what ive changed or done wrong but its all gone to hell LOL

[knotty briar]

Yeah my current goal is to reach 1500

[mighty stump]

If its based off Andrew Zheng’s Lunala then it’s fine

[mighty stump]

Yeah just msg me

[real prairie]

I think i got as far as 1440ish before my descent into madness

[mighty stump]

Ok

Ig it’s time I start trying again

😪

[real prairie]

Welcome back Tofu, your sanity won't appreciate it, but we welcome you

[mighty stump]

Rusty bones

I’m feeling Zacian today

I already did my warmups using my Snorlax/CSR team

and MBeam Pagos Balance

[mighty stump]

Oh I missed this; idk

I don’t see a proper use for it

Intimidate deterrent is pointless when the main one is immune to your STAB and you’re weak to 3/4 of the top restricteds

CSR/CIR/Mirai

[real prairie]

I was considering using it as a Imprison TW+TR mon, but 1) that takes up 3 move slots, 2) its got no way to stop TW going up first anyway

[solid frigate]

kinda,just without the screens

[mighty stump]

Not worth

[frail herald]

How good is slowking in regulation h

[foggy lodge]

Which Slowking

[tiny peak]

Choice scarf gambit ape+farigiraf vs gholdengo choice specs+tailwind booster energy roaring moon? Does the tailwind beat trickroom scarf gambit ape?

[chrome knot]

turn order is gonna be
Roaring Moon Tailwind @ 282
(Gholdengo now @ 298)
Ape @ 234
Farig

[tiny peak]

@chrome knot nice, was curious lol

[knotty briar]

Been practicing for reg G with this team and currently ranked 355!

[charred saddle]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2265319551

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2265313573

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2265316547

funny games haha

[chrome knot]

@solid frigate mirai/iron crown has hit the builder

[solid frigate]

wait you are gonna try?

[chrome knot]

yeah I needed a glue mon and went mmmm crown town for the mirror sounds cute

[solid frigate]

Eh i mean Crown does make some Matchups slightly Doable

and i have tested for about a Month and a Half i think its worth a Try

[chrome knot]

it plays to both of its weaknesses

booster for speed creep + tachyon for fairy variant or jus hit it with tera ground blast lol

[solid frigate]

yeah it works well lol

and i solely picked Crown cuz it can One Shot CIR but after testing it can Almost OHKO to OHKO a lot of stuff

and also Beating Sneasler Copium

[tawdry urchin]

Could somone give my a blood moon ursaluna team list please?

[charred saddle]

BM fari

it usually goes from there

BM fari + FO pressure, incin rilla works

then just choose ur restricted aand choose the other mons to support or play aaround ig

[chrome knot]

https://pokepast.es/076f47b41340598d - played this in the toronto day 2 side events cup & placed t32 with it, it was pretty fun

[tawdry urchin]

Oh nah 💀 No trick room or anything

[chrome knot]

nope I click tailwind instead lol

its jus dug balance

[solid frigate]

bro clicks Tailwind Go brrr

[tawdry urchin]

Well I want to make a trick room deck so :/

[left bobcat]

Just slap trick room and call it a day

[tawdry urchin]

🤦‍♂️

[solid frigate]

he does not learn what TW BM Ursa can do lol

[tawdry urchin]

blood moon's speed is dog shit 😭🙏

[chrome knot]

it hits 114 and then 228 in tw..

but okieee

[solid frigate]

that literally outspeeds CSR lol

and there is proof,Rajan Used that on that Miraidon Team

[left bobcat]

Just max speed and give it a choice scarf

[tawdry urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/get-yo-ahh-on-boy-gif-26030997

[left bobcat]

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/stupid-town-bikini-bottom-spongebob-squarepants-sipping-patrick-the-starfish-gif-15590204

[chrome knot]

you?

[bold geode]

I'm the mayor of that bitch

Now where's a silly bitch when you need em

@torn parrot MAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAA

[solid frigate]

pfft

[opaque night]

What's the website called where i always see people raging in salty tear in video clips on youtube

Like someone with a full team of legendaries dieing to a team of mostly baby pokemon

[chrome knot]

pokemon showdown, except those videos are staged lol

[bold geode]

@chrome knot I go get slurp juice

[foggy lodge]

Those videos are like pokemon brainrot

[plain drum]

Idk I saw someone open a loaf of bread and individually analyze each slice like they were going through a booster pack

[mint void]

Good enough that she works in Tailwind

[cyan smelt]

Bread unboxing sounds fire

[bold geode]

How'd you find my YouTube

[real prairie]

i dont think he liked that i encored him https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2265399099-rubucwcx8uehebkzk4op0cls29m5rb1pw

[naive drift]

What doubles or singles team can I use Skeledirge and Archaludon in? I can’t seem to make one I need help with support mons I really want to use both

[real prairie]

fot what competition?

[naive drift]

Thanks for asking, just in casual battles or even in game against leaders in BB 😅

I’m a very casual gamer, I don’t do ranked but I make my teams as if I’m playing ranked if that makes sense

[mighty stump]

Well it’s difficult to advise in that case, considering those are two very different perspectives

Anyways, Archaludon would be Rain teams while Skeledirge ideally tends to be on Screens teams/Balance teams and would not function together with Archaludon

[naive drift]

I see 😞

My team for Casual battles is, Skeledirge, Miraidon, corvinight, Sneasler, Hisui Samurott, and Bloodmoon Ursaluna 🧐 is this good for getting wins in ranked?

I want to try ranked but I’m scared 😱

[real prairie]

no sir

[naive drift]

What would you change? Skeledirge is staying 100% its what im building around

[real prairie]

Serious lack of support in there, maybe review this and consider what works well. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTmQS_zxiCw&t=95s&ab_channel=WolfeyVGC)

you want to try keep Skeledirge on the field as long as possible to stack SpAtk buffs i guess, so as Tofu said, Screens

[naive drift]

Thank you!

[chrome knot]

spent the year only playing vgc😭

[bold geode]

[balmy glen]

How do u check this

[chrome knot]

https://year-in-review.nintendo.com/en-gb/

[lofty tartan]

My game time clock on Violet has been maxed out the entire year at 999

[lofty tartan]

I shiny hunt on three switches and four games

[bold geode]

Damn that is almost 15 days worth of Violet for me

[torn parrot]

You guys…

[bold geode]

Nvm we found the addict

[torn parrot]

Wow what’s up with you guys and only playing sword and shield for an hour

[left bobcat]

You realllllly need some crack

[bold geode]

That's anywhere between 80 and 90 days of Violet

[left bobcat]

Hmmmm lettuce see how many hours I got

[torn parrot]

I did a lot of shiny hunting lol
And i reeeeeeeeaaaally took my time the story modes

[left bobcat]

815 hours of violet

[chrome knot]

tbf id be cooked if there was showdown hours

[balmy glen]

this is me beating it twice lol

[next stump]

taken on my work laptop lmao

[plain drum]

Can't wait for the Showdown Holiday recap "You really fell off the ladder this year, champ!"

[balmy glen]

if it was showdown hours id prob have about 3k

[next stump]

i think at least 50% of my hours on SV are just from tournaments

[chrome knot]

L 8 hour avg

[lofty tartan]

Transfers. And this is different than the tracked gametime.

[balmy glen]

i never played it/watched it before so my first run was prob 12 hours tbh

i got lost like 30 times

[lofty tartan]

I also was pretty lukewarm on Sword/Shield

[torn parrot]

Ohhhhhhhhhh i seeeee

How do i find the tracked game time

[chrome knot]

7:57 & 6:41 😤

[balmy glen]

noob

[plain drum]

It took me a long time to get to a point where I tolerated SwSh

[lofty tartan]

The above is just in under user info, while the 2024 recap is from Emma's link

[bold geode]

Me AF

[chrome knot]

@solid frigate crown town kinda sucked lol

[torn parrot]

That makes a lot of sense now should be alot less then

[bold geode]

LMAO

[torn parrot]

Is there a link someone could send me

[lofty tartan]

Of course wrong ping

[torn parrot]

Ohhh thanks

[lofty tartan]

@torn parrot

Despite clicking at your username it changed last second

Wrong ping Mika strikes again

[plain drum]

Sorry random Maya (of like 6+)

[lofty tartan]

Don't worry. I'm a big dumb animal. It's fine

[balmy glen]

im top 10 on like 7 different tiers rn

[plain drum]

Hustle

[balmy glen]

my hours are prob crzy

[chrome knot]

who?

[balmy glen]

r u

[chrome knot]

asked !!

[balmy glen]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-phillips-instiagtor-gif-22728638

[chrome knot]

proud of you🧡

[torn parrot]

Hahaha

Skylanders imaginators

[naive drift]

Anyone got Skeledirge team I can work off of? I’m struggling to find good support mons

[torn parrot]

I win tho

[balmy glen]

what tier

my hours on violet will probably double in 2025 because restricted formats will make me grind ladder more

[torn parrot]

I spent so many hours grinding for bunny ears on Skylanders imaginators

[plain drum]

I hope they made you happy

[naive drift]

Just for casual battles not ranked or anything

[plain drum]

Holy shit Tactics Ogre

[mighty stump]

I mean probably just run Yawn/Torch Song/Shadow Ball/Slack Off or Protect

Then run Screens, complete FWG core, add a Dragon

Like what, Skeledirge/Grimmsnarl/Rillaboom/Water type/Dragon type/Random 6th

[chrome knot]

im just gonna click astral barrage

[naive drift]

FWG core? What does that mean? Sorry I’m new to competitive Pokémon 🥲

[balmy glen]

fire water grasss

[mighty stump]

Fire/Water/Grass

[balmy glen]

damn

[naive drift]

For screens I will use alolan nine tails

[balmy glen]

tofu and i cant spell grass gg

[mighty stump]

rip

Iron Crown has hit the builder

[balmy glen]

iron crown do be broken

[mighty stump]

I have a stupid ass idea but we’ll see

Btw are we confirmed to be going to single restricted first

[mighty stump]

Then might as well have Baxcalibur as your Dragon and run something like Primarina or Urshifu for water

[solid frigate]

why is everyone testing crown

when i abandoned to bring Miraidon in birmingham

[lofty tartan]

Crown's fun and he looks cool

[torn parrot]

he looks like a giraf

actualluy he looks like a reindeer

[lofty tartan]

Or like an Antelope-esque animal

His head spins.

He's rad

Threatens Chien Pao and Flutter pretty well too. Just struggles against some other things.

[naive drift]

So Skeledirge, Ninetails, rillaboom, baxcallibur, urshifu water, and corvinight?

Will that work in casual battles or even ranked?

A ninetails

[mighty stump]

So again, I’d say you’re gonna have to alter your perspectives and expectations greatly when starting competitive Pokemon. Generally it’s recommended newbies don’t try to build their own teams to start and rather use pre-established things to understand the fundamentals

[naive drift]

Gotcha

[mighty stump]

For casual play or PvE content, you can pretty much use whatever

i’d probably start reading up on how comp works and such

[rustic mountain]

yes

[mighty stump]

We have tons of resources in the pins of this channel

[mighty stump]

its freeco

[rustic mountain]

[mighty stump]

Did you see my PTCG pulls

[rustic mountain]

nah

[rustic mountain]

wen did marshadow get introduced

[mighty stump]

New packs on Dec 17

[rustic mountain]

ohh nice

[mighty stump]

Pulls went crazy out of 20 packs

Hit rate was 9/20

[rustic mountain]

serperior card goes crazy

[mighty stump]

Its meta too

[rustic mountain]

even better

[mighty stump]

Celebi-Serperior the new kid on the block

[rustic mountain]

r u playing as well or just collecting

[mighty stump]

Im playing as well

I love the convenience and the art

[rustic mountain]

vgc to tcg crossover

[mighty stump]

Feels better than regular TCG

[mighty stump]

I’m back for VGC btw

[rustic mountain]

im trynna enjoy whats left of reg h

[mighty stump]

Pocket replaced VGC for me during my Reg H break

I was so disinterested

[rustic mountain]

i feel like reg h wouldve had u more interested

[mighty stump]

No like I took a break cuz I found it boring

Lmao

[rustic mountain]

yea i get that just assumed the opposite wouldve been the case

[mighty stump]

Ikr me too

Then I was viewing the metagame and i was like

Mmmmmm not my thing

[rustic mountain]

fair enough

[mighty stump]

I think there were a few polarising mons that made it a different vibe than Reg A/B

Si yea

[rustic mountain]

like the sneaslers and arch's?

[mighty stump]

Sort of yea

and I somewhat disagreed with some of the teams

Didn’t fit the vibe when playing

So aside from playing basic meta and not finding sth that speaks to me much made me wanna just hop off for a bit

[rustic mountain]

id say even despite their popularity it wound up having some good meta progressions, some not too surprising like bm ursa coming back but had more diversity then i think originally credited for

wasnt ur vibe tho i mean no reason to play

[mighty stump]

Sure, I just felt a lot of the changes was more marginal

[mighty stump]

Yea

I also wanted like

A refresher

Instead of burning out

[rustic mountain]

yea ive taken a few extended breaks from vgc

[mighty stump]

Plus life was getting busy anyways

[rustic mountain]

i honestly dont even get a chance to play much these days anyway

[mighty stump]

Me too

[rustic mountain]

u cookin up some heat for reg g +?

[mighty stump]

Oh yeah

[rustic mountain]

pog

[mighty stump]

Ive veen warming up with my iconic Snorlax CSR team

and I got some new varieties of Miraidon/Pagos

[rustic mountain]

nice, ive really just been messing around w/ a super early og reg g team thats just ho csr but that was mostly cuz my teams got wiped and i remembered basically the gist of that teams spreads

wanna delve into zama, mirai and turtle this go around

[mighty stump]

Lemme send you what I got for Mirai

[rustic mountain]

cool thx

[naive drift]

What’s Zama? Zamazenta?

[mighty stump]

Yes

We’re discussing the upcoming Regulation

[naive drift]

I thought only one legendary was allowed in regulation?

[mighty stump]

Correct, some people tend to have multiple teams

[naive drift]

Ah I see sorry

[mighty stump]

and exploring the different restricteds give you good perspectives on how to approach matchups

[molten oasis]

I can’t even get 1 team

You’re coming back next reg Tofu?

[naive drift]

Me neither haha, I think I’ll watch a couple videos regarding the new regulation

[torn parrot]

I really gotta download this card game app

[mighty stump]

zcorrect

[molten oasis]

Cool, I’m gonna go stare at the builder now

maybe smth will pop out

[mighty stump]

lol

[mighty stump]

If you have questions feel free to ask.

[naive drift]

Thanks! The Pokémon community is amazing! I’m part of the competitive Yugioh community and it’s a bit more … interesting 😅

[mighty stump]

There are no stupid questions so feel free to ask repeat questions

[torn parrot]

Are you edible

[mighty stump]

Probably

[torn parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/engage-kiss-kanna-anime-girl-anime-anime-eating-gif-26794009

Hell yeah

[craggy dagger]

[spiral ridge]

Breaking news: tofu is edible

[bold geode]

Nom

[bold geode]

Hi bestie

[bold geode]

I did this during an hour drive, I'm going back to the Greg sauce

[molten oasis]

Cool

[chrome knot]

LOL

good heavens maya lmao

[foggy lodge]

Eduardo Cunha has been banned

[next stump]

can you link?

[foggy lodge]

I don't have any link but Alex Gomez talked about it on his stream and he doesn't appear on the leaderboard anymore

[mighty stump]

What

What did Edu do

[foggy lodge]

Unknown reasons of why the ban, we'll just have to wait until he says something

[mighty stump]

Its crazy to ban one of the World Champions

Either he did something really stupid

or TPCI is off their rocker

[foggy lodge]

Alex also said that it was a permaban but i hope its just a mistake from Alex or something

okay here is something but is quite sensible and i don't know if its true uhhh

https://x.com/AtlasOnStream/status/1862560940190814626?t=U_h4TOhsAxraMTLl2alquA&s=08

Salvatore (@AtlasOnStream) on X

TLDR: Pokemon World Champion Edu Cunha physically assaulted another World Champion at a Nintendo Event during Milan Games Week

Twitter · Nov 29, 2024, 6:15 PM

[bold geode]

Excuse me

Oh
I see

[spiral ridge]

:( if thats true thats awful

[bold geode]

The E in Eduardo stands for Everyone cuz that's who can get those hands

[spiral ridge]

idk if you wanna stick to this one monkey 😭

[bold geode]

I'm sad I can't find like any rentals for CIR Eleki, gonna have to make that myself if I wanna try it

[spiral ridge]

showdown?

[chrome knot]

LOL aur naur

[foggy lodge]

dude i have it

lol

@bold geode

[real prairie]

Lol before I missed out on EUIC

[real prairie]

What's the spread on the lando? I keep building the same lando but it's so squishy, never survives long enough to put out hits

[foggy lodge]

I can search the paste hold on

[molten oasis]

Wow just clicking yawn doesn’t work WHEN THE OPPONENT CAN JUST PIVOT EVERY TURN

[real prairie]

Yeah not super useful against a team that rotates anyway, good for setup teams though

[molten oasis]

And then you just spam the fucking incin rilla fake out spam like what am I supposed to do about that

Can that be bad again

Hate CIR teams

[real prairie]

I've been using Tserena

Wide lens, power whip, triple axel, high jump kick

[real prairie]

Just before I failed to buy EUIC tickets in time and then took a break lol

[molten oasis]

Farms calyrex my ass Keanu

[balmy glen]

? Umbreon does

[molten oasis]

Oh great I just lost to a fucking cobalion

[molten oasis]

I lost, multiple times, no it doesn’t

I am BAD with yawn pressure

[mighty stump]

Thats fine tho

Like

Thats the point remember

You literally want them to pivot so they have to waste turns switching

Like

You also have Inner Focus

Keep in mind if you Yawn a slot that Incin/Rilla comes into

They have to either switch or click Fake Out and get slept

Then you play around that lol, and in fact if they click FO thats good for you

Send replays

[strange fjord]

Yawn is disruptive. gotta take advantage of that

[molten oasis]

It didn’t feel that way

Cuz I couldn’t capitalize on anything while incin weakens my team with intimidate

And it had wisp

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2265606247-f3z29igxo2el20jbyqe6ztxo3hmlnuvpw here ya go me playing like absolute shit

[balmy glen]

Meh

Don’t get too annoyed you did get paralyzed on that awkward turn. Only misplay is the awkward protect when u had more momentum than them on turn 3

[bold geode]

Thank you I was scouring shit for that

[gentle crag]

dollarmonke has given 1 Gen Rep to maxihd

[molten oasis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2265616536

Doing better

[foggy lodge]

there were some plays i didn't like but idk

[molten oasis]

I don’t like that mu

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2265632446-9ecwkhqblzrom57tpldezyq44yavqbjpw

How the fuck i clutched the game back-

[molten oasis]

You almost completely threw that by clicking PSYCHIC

[molten oasis]

Played the umbreon team for a while, feels fine I still hate calyrex regardless of the team being ok into it, so annoying to fight

and I still wanna build something cuz that’s what actually gets me wanting to play

[shadow wind]

That’s actually so real

Like that’s half the fun of Pokemon

If you don’t team build then you’re relying on others too much imo

[molten oasis]

Yea, I just don’t know what to build with rn with Zac

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2265659166-4vugaxfabzr5wmf2p9l0uocm3yqry2gpw

Crown can't be stopped lol

[left bobcat]

YESSSS YESSSS

iron crown lessss goooooo

[solid frigate]

either i bring Crown Miraidon or Lunala Calm mind into Birmingham

[foggy lodge]

I already told you bring Crown Miraidon

Is the objectively better restricted lol

[solid frigate]

+Immediate Pressure?

[chrome knot]

crown town mid😔🤘

[solid frigate]

skill issue do better

[chrome knot]

🤷‍♀️

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2265668593

[real prairie]

Bring crown so if i go up against you i dont have to stress as much 🤣

mind you i dont mind Lunala either

[solid frigate]

i just beat two Kyogres when i trying lunala but eh idk

still thinking which one should i bring,Granted they are fully on teambuilders

[real prairie]

Really hate facing Kyurem though

[solid frigate]

I mean

Kyurem will not be that much used so its alr

i need to practice more and so far

Ogerpon Hands Lead looks very promising for against Mirai whims lead

or Crown Hands Lead cuz it covers Sash Whims

[real prairie]

i was having some fun leading brave bird Talonflame into whims and ruining peoples TW dreams 🤣

works every time half the time lol

[solid frigate]

wait Talonflame-

Did you edited the team-

[real prairie]

ive been testing a bunch of stuff

had a play with scarf psyspam CalyShadow too

[left bobcat]

I remember those days

Scarf caly for everything

[solid frigate]

Gen 8?

[left bobcat]

Nope

[solid frigate]

but yeah Scarf on restricteds is still mid kek

[real prairie]

yeah scarf Kyogre is being ruined by how many TW teams there are atm

[solid frigate]

and also weather interaction with Koraidon

Scarf Kyogre will be faster than Koraidon,losing the Weather interactions

[left bobcat]

Anytime I’m thinking about using Koraidon I use a choice scarf

Collision course
Dragon claw
U turn
Flare blitz

[real prairie]

Ice beam time lol

[solid frigate]

Clear Amulet is right there-

Even Choice Band i will not be hate that much cuz i seen it worked-

[left bobcat]

Nah

I prefer the scarf

Personal preference

[solid frigate]

whatever-

[left bobcat]

I barely use koraidon anyways

It’s mostly Kyogre miraidon and the horse

[solid frigate]

am i gonna feel offended seeing your sets-

[left bobcat]

Brother I have a bunch of sets from reg g

I tried all types of things

I keep it all in my own server

[solid frigate]

i mean thats a good habit to do

saving up your sets for future reference is always a good habit

[left bobcat]

Because I like an idea then I try to mix it up

[solid frigate]

i respect that

[left bobcat]

It’s all for fun

I’m not trying harding like I used to

I’ll come up with some material and depending on what it is I’ll put it up here and hopefully chat won’t roast me

[solid frigate]

i kinda need to do that cuz yea

Few more weeks till tournaments

[charred saddle]

https://pokepast.es/611346b06a937d81

https://pokepast.es/a33c05b2f17d0ac3

https://pokepast.es/03cc81c3684dceaf

cooking birb

[left bobcat]

My tournament days are over

Too much stress

[charred saddle]

currently 12-1

[plain drum]

Roasted? Baked? Fried?

[solid frigate]

that first team looks ODDLY FAMILIAR-

[charred saddle]

theres 3 team, so 3 methods of cooking
Roasting, Baked, and Fried

[plain drum]

[left bobcat]

Regidrago?

[charred saddle]

why not

[left bobcat]

Shiiiiiiii I guess so

Flutter and valiant practically scared me from using drago

[solid frigate]

i need context on why Garticuno

cuz its interesting but suprising

[charred saddle]

just kill fairy first and voila

[plain drum]

[charred saddle]

i have shiny garticuno

thats it

i wanna use it

[solid frigate]

ah

[left bobcat]

Must be nice

[solid frigate]

i mean can't blame that logic

[left bobcat]

Shiny g moltres looks dope

[tiny karma]

Item: Booster Energy

Activates the Protosynthesis or Quark Drive Abilities. Single use.

Fling

30 Power

Introduced

Generation 9

Sableye version 4.28.1

[charred saddle]

this is the regidrago team, i mean its still low ladder but eh

[tiny karma]

Ability: Quark Drive

If Electric Terrain is active or this Pokemon uses a held Booster Energy, this Pokemon's highest stat is multiplied by 1.3, or by 1.5 if the highest stat is Speed. Stat stage changes are considered at the time this Ability activates. If multiple stats are tied, Attack, Defense, Special Attack, Special Defense, and Speed are prioritized in that order. If this effect was started by Electric Terrain, a held Booster Energy will not activate and the effect ends when Electric Terrain is no longer active. If this effect was started by a held Booster Energy, it ends when this Pokemon is no longer active.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[charred saddle]

but taht team havent met any chienpaos so

[solid frigate]

i'm pushing My Birmingham team to at least 1500
And 1400 in bo3

[charred saddle]

chienpao is annoying hits SE to 4 and neutral to all

so yeah changing team

[foggy lodge]

Go for it trainer

I wouldn't obsess with that goal tho

[craggy dagger]

[foggy lodge]

A friend teached me that elo doesn't matter that much because tournaments are way more different than showdown ladder

I woild tryhard ladder obviously but don't force yourself to it that much

[solid frigate]

oh fuck its true-

I mean its still practice

[next stump]

yeah you’re going to be better off playing online tournaments than just ladder, but tbh whatever is fun for just do it

[charred saddle]

not urs, i mean im not using mine anymore since i saw that chienpao wrecks it badly

[next stump]

unless you’re looking to win the regional or something crazy

[charred saddle]

haha

[solid frigate]

just wanna day 2 my way in cuz my only thing i need to master is anaylse the situation and Patience

[next stump]

if you can play 5 or so bo3 per day and save the replays/analyze them, you’ll be in a good spot

[craggy dagger]

ohhhhh
pff

[next stump]

don’t be one of the people who just grinds and grinds ladder without thinking about the game

[craggy dagger]

our team is very-
scuffed-
but i do like the redirection that we have
the perfect electric resist

[solid frigate]

don't worry,i'm not like that,especially i have a whole squad to train me for it

[solid frigate]

OUCH

NOVA

[craggy dagger]

i feel used /j

[solid frigate]

bruh

[craggy dagger]

i’m kidding lmao

[left bobcat]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2265684922

[chrome knot]

crown town mid but friends i building with for vancouver want to see it work

[left bobcat]

first three games of reg g and ignore the bull

[chrome knot]

all bc it can speed creep fairy miraidon😔🤘

[solid frigate]

i mean i used Modest Miraidon lmao

[chrome knot]

boost spe crown hits like 247 or w/e

[craggy dagger]

emmmaaaaaaaaa

[chrome knot]

novaaaaaaaaaaa

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

haaaiiiii

[torn parrot]

Really not a fan of this format, way too unbalanced

I miss being dire clawed

[craggy dagger]

garticuno

[molten oasis]

That’s working?

[craggy dagger]

yesnt

incin MUs are like a double edged sword

[solid frigate]

wait you are using Booster Speed?

i used Boosted SpA

[left bobcat]

Y’all use booster?

I use- weezing

[charred saddle]

i mean its working in my part

13-1 currently

[left bobcat]

Just slap a choice scarf on that thang

[charred saddle]

but its like said, its low ladder

[solid frigate]

expert Belt lol

[left bobcat]

One of my iron crown sets would be
Tachyon cutter
Psychic
Tera water blast
Volt switch

Choice scarf

[raven belfry]

does anyone have the 7 star rillaboom raid?

[craggy dagger]

those have ended-
a long time ago

[raven belfry]

I know it's been a year but I need a good iv

rillaboom

[left bobcat]

A what now?

[foggy lodge]

what

[charred saddle]

just bottle cap it

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 1023: Iron Crown

Types

Steel/Psychic

Abilities

Quark Drive

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/72/100/122/108/98

Total

590

Sableye version 4.28.1

[charred saddle]

capping it and perfect iv is the same

[foggy lodge]

it faster than Urshifuuuuu

[left bobcat]

Who?

[craggy dagger]

and once you go online you can’t really save the raid-
soooo
it’s prolly best to go to #1112832566261731328 or #trading_sv for a grookey/rillaboom and hypertrain the stats

[left bobcat]

Speed boost iron crown?

[solid frigate]

no just regular Crown iirc

[left bobcat]

By one point 💀

[craggy dagger]

incin MUs are a double edged sword though-

[foggy lodge]

Crown hits the bump and Urshi doesn't

So its by 2 points if you go 252 timid

[solid frigate]

SaberGOAT (Iron Crown) @ Expert Belt
Ability: Quark Drive
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature

• Tachyon Cutter
• Psychic Noise
• Tera Blast
• Protect

For example

[craggy dagger]

bleh-

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-gif-19410756

[charred saddle]

not really theres still shifu and pagos EP to play around

[left bobcat]

Shoooooooo

[charred saddle]

even if they teras it still good

[chrome knot]

252timid @ lorb

then like 172spatk then bulk

[solid frigate]

ah no wonder why you are booster speed

[chrome knot]

yes bc im 164spatk and 165spe lol

[solid frigate]

[chrome knot]

(it is intentional) xd

[craggy dagger]

true

[solid frigate]

i mean thats good for outspeeding Miraidon and Fairy CSR

its just i like more Sauce on my Crown

[chrome knot]

and im not using crown in general its mid asf lol

miraidon is just not a me style

where csr balance is yummmyyyy

[left bobcat]

Welp inteleon had a nice run but I just can’t fit him in reg g teams

[solid frigate]

I mean its alr

[left bobcat]

Zacian tho- 💀

🗑️

[solid frigate]

do not drago know about Zacian Slander

its still a Very good anti Meta Restricted

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2265695830-uu8ffjtcbmut8aj1exuv13dz8g6kpdspw

zacian is cool tho I love 10xx ladder

[solid frigate]

yeah don't let drago know about that team

he will just be fuming about it

[left bobcat]

Porygon2 DA BEST

[solid frigate]

SHIT

[molten oasis]

Do I send the gif

[solid frigate]

NO DRAGO DON'T

[molten oasis]

I’m very tempted to

[solid frigate]

[molten oasis]

It’s good anti meta

And I huff shit tons of copium

But Keanu said it was so it’s good anti meta

[solid frigate]

i mean its a good anti meta before that so

[molten oasis]

Thinking about gapdos again

Okidogi is pretty mid

And I don’t wanna play prebuilt stuff

[solid frigate]

guess we are doing Gapdos Comps again-

[shadow wind]

Smartest CSR player

[left bobcat]

…..

[solid frigate]

LMAO

[left bobcat]

There’s no way

I’m not even that dumb

[molten oasis]

I think gapdos has genuine potential

[left bobcat]

And I be choking

[molten oasis]

It’s the only reason I’m thinking about it

[solid frigate]

i mean,you made me and Nova trying that comp before so,go for it

[molten oasis]

Having 1 guy good into the main FWG cores is awesome

[left bobcat]

For every time I threw a game because I miss clicked or not think things through

I’d be rich

[molten oasis]

I saw a volbeat with attract thunder wave confuse Ray and protect today

[shadow wind]

Me too 😔

[solid frigate]

bro is gonna attract none of the restricteds lol

Not even Terapagos cuz its only Male Pagos lol

[molten oasis]

It’s not good lmao

[foggy lodge]

Are you using the Groudon Hariyama team

[left bobcat]

Attract is diabolical

[molten oasis]

It was a mewtwo team as well

[shadow wind]

No?

[solid frigate]

bruh lmao

[foggy lodge]

i mean

Is it the one from worlds?

[shadow wind]

No

[foggy lodge]

huh

[left bobcat]

Yuh

Wait- no

[shadow wind]

I made it

Myself

[solid frigate]

knowing conner

he made his own teams

[shadow wind]

Weakest Miraidon ever

In E terrain

Must've been scarfed

I did look at the worlds Groudon teams and did see the Hariyama one but I literally only got the Hariyama from that, I mean it's a pretty obvious choice

[solid frigate]

yeah cuz Draco ohko's Groudons

Either its Scarfed or it has other items

[shadow wind]

All the other mons I added

252 SpA Hadron Engine Miraidon Draco Meteor vs. 204 HP / 148 SpD Groudon: 142-168 (70.6 - 83.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[solid frigate]

def not lorb tho

[shadow wind]

Even lorb kills

I was pretty sure this guy wasn't specs

[solid frigate]

yeh its not specs

[shadow wind]

So I correctly assessed the situation 🤓

Also

[solid frigate]

yeah normal stuff

[shadow wind]

It did way more than I thought it was going to

[molten oasis]

Low kick goated move

[shadow wind]

Sure is

Except against Amoonguss

[molten oasis]

lol

[shadow wind]

Oh my days

[molten oasis]

Lmfao

[solid frigate]

omg what the hell is that damage-

[shadow wind]

Tera water thick fat

[solid frigate]

give me the replay-

[molten oasis]

That would have done 30% normally too that’s so funny

[solid frigate]

untapped potential be like

[molten oasis]

Gapdos is untapped potential

[shadow wind]

Will send the replay after I win

[tiny karma]

Zapdos-Galar's moveset:

Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Assurance, Blaze Kick, Bounce, Brave Bird, Brick Break, Close Combat, Counter, Double-Edge, Drill Peck, Dual Wingbeat, Endeavor, Facade, Fly, Giga Impact, Knock Off, Low Kick, Low Sweep, Mega Kick, Payback, Peck, Pluck, Retaliate, Revenge, Reversal, Rock Smash, Steel Wing, Stomping Tantrum, Superpower, Take Down, Throat Chop, Thunderous Kick, Trailblaze, U-turn

Special Moves

Ancient Power, Hurricane, Hyper Beam, Round, Snore, Swift, Tera Blast

Status Moves

Agility, Bulk Up, Coaching, Detect, Endure, Focus Energy, Helping Hand, Light Screen, Protect, Quick Guard, Rain Dance, Rest, Sandstorm, Scary Face, Screech, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sunny Day, Tailwind, Taunt

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Zapdos-Galar.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[molten oasis]

Fighting types and having massive physical move pools lol

[shadow wind]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2265703494-kvugkl59l3keer27i04qvm5mdqyg8n3pw

Here ya go

I only misplayed once

[molten oasis]

Why’d you protect and wide guard lol

[left bobcat]

Because

Why not

[chrome knot]

fungus

[shadow wind]

Spiky shield

[left bobcat]

Or wynaut

[shadow wind]

Trust

[solid frigate]

amogus

[chrome knot]

y e

fungus 4-0'd

(it didnt but lets pretend it did)

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-sus-gif-2558655191726498734

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

getting used to reg g again is so weird

im having trouble determining with games to bring horse to and I keep losing to stupidity lol

[foggy lodge]

life feels awesome when you stop clicking dire claw and scale shot

[chrome knot]

no it dont

gimme back scale shot I was liking that one

[foggy lodge]

Now you have to click wide guard to not insta die to astral barrage but its an improvement imo

[solid frigate]

scale shot its alr

but remove dire claw feels so much better

[chrome knot]

the worst part is having to start my spreadsheet all over

it so naked

[foggy lodge]

lol

SneasPult (Magmar) and SneasPult (Buzz)

I should make one of those for me too

[chrome knot]

yeah they require diff solutions in our notes lol

[foggy lodge]

Makes sense

[solid frigate]

SneezePult

[molten oasis]

Bruh

[chrome knot]

https://pokepast.es/3aa1c81e63ac089f t32 type shit

[molten oasis]

That was not my question lmao

[shadow wind]

It was the bad play

I also don't know why I did it

Didn't realize it got that high

[solid frigate]

yeah it happens

[next stump]

that’s an awesome sheet

[chrome knot]

its sableyevgc’s spams that i filled out with Rishi & Brian Hough

was lotsa fun prepping for toronto

[craggy dagger]

emma-
what happened to the glaceon team-

[chrome knot]

i decided i just wanted to bring kats team

and give them cheesy nicknames

[craggy dagger]

:(((((
no glaceon

[spiral ridge]

[chrome knot]

nooo it almost happened tho

a paste was created so it was thought abt

[molten oasis]

Ogerpon go crazy

[shadow wind]

It really does

[craggy dagger]

is okiii
just glad you gave her a thought

[chrome knot]

i was ready

then a wave of i miss my wife hit and then i wanted to take her team loo

[craggy dagger]

understandable

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/i-miss-my-wife-tails-i-miss-her-a-lot-sonic-the-hedgehog-snapcube-eggman-gif-27436480

[molten oasis]

IVE COME TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT

[empty turtle]

what

[empty turtle]

what

[molten oasis]

Aww you don’t know that whole joke

[foggy lodge]

SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG

[left bobcat]

Sonic HEREOOOOOOOOOO

[solid frigate]

||IS A BITCHASS MF||

[mighty stump]

Yeah T3 weird Protect but I also meant replays where you were using Yawn

Additionally if the issue is them using an Intimidator then utilise a Defiant mon or sth

[molten oasis]

That’s kinda what I’m thinking

I bugged you about that elsewhere lol

Thinking about gapdos or Okidogi

[left bobcat]

Okidogi?

Okidogi is not Okidoki

[mighty stump]

Or a SpAtker works too

In a technical sense Urshifu works here too since Intim doesn’t matter

[molten oasis]

It’s not that bad

[left bobcat]

It’s not good

[molten oasis]

Well I’m gonna cope cuz I hate incin and don’t wanna go play annihilape

[rustic mountain]

its had some solid finishes, i forget if it had anything of note in reg g tho

[bold geode]

It wasn't bad in G tbh
Good tech

Sometimes you gotta be able to see what's good for a team

[molten oasis]

I mean it didn’t

Only arguably good upper hand user

[rustic mountain]

i mean u should always be seeing wats good for ur team haha but yea if it makes sense try it out. i personally think it doesnt do enough and has too much threaten it

[molten oasis]

I’m not looking for solid finishes in reg g

I wanted to use gapdos

Nobody uses gapdos lol

[rustic mountain]

gapdos is good on paper

thats about it

[molten oasis]

Bolt makes it so miserable

Flutter does, doesn’t do anything notable into restricteds

I did good with it in reg f

But that was reg f

ugh

[rustic mountain]

bolt, players who can play urshi/rilla/incin core well, csr, chien pao like the list goes on

[molten oasis]

yea, and I’m coping with Okidogi now

but it quote on quote seems ok, and it hasn’t felt bad in play

[rustic mountain]

yea ok just seems like not enough and that generally seems to be okidogis downfall

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/c06cd5cc40f9badd that and I just want something to genuinely work on

I did so much rain zac with torn/peli last reg

and I don’t really like the chi yu Regidrago stuff

[rustic mountain]

y

[molten oasis]

I don’t like no fairy move Zac, or Regidrago

[rustic mountain]

ngl, this team seems terrible into cir

[molten oasis]

Ty for noticing they ALL ARE

everything I’ve built is awful into CIR

idk how to fix that hole at all

[rustic mountain]

give urself more then 1 mon that can resist its 2 attacking moves

[molten oasis]

There isn’t, much, I feel

[left bobcat]

Yeah

Because I feel u feel we all feel

[molten oasis]

Fire types have to take high horsepower

Any flying type dies to glacial lance, that coverage is miserable to build around

[left bobcat]

Hmmm I wonder how tf does rillaboom a monke learn High horse power

[molten oasis]

Can spam water types but most teams have bolt

Or rilla

I feel like CIR is a genuine skill issue

[left bobcat]

High horse power has come in clutch during this reg

[molten oasis]

For me

[rustic mountain]

im not saying everything needs to be resisting both but u only have urshi and kinda pao that doesnt take anything se and those guys arent helping u get thru tr. u gta think am i either able to deny tr or able to withstand it and u cant do either rn

[left bobcat]

Iron bundle

[molten oasis]

Fuck no lmao

[rustic mountain]

lmfao

iron buns

[molten oasis]

Ong

[left bobcat]

4x resistance to glacial lance 💀

I’m still a iron bundle warrior

[molten oasis]

Still totally does like 30%

[rustic mountain]

nd u jus die to bolt or rilla or w/e else and do nothing back

[molten oasis]

Cuz CIR is busted

[rustic mountain]

def my fav restricted of og reg g

[molten oasis]

and I play the fair restricted

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

I feel like everything has just been, figured out

[left bobcat]

Wellllll-

[rustic mountain]

theyll be meta adapations

[molten oasis]

You either go rain or Regidrago chi yu shit

[left bobcat]

There is one more area no one has really tapped into

[rustic mountain]

oh u mean for zacian

[molten oasis]

Yes

Not in general lol

[left bobcat]

My server likes to call it “the underground bunker”

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-boss-boss-mr-smiling-friends-freak-out-gif-14844394971938403544

[left bobcat]

GIRATINA-

[rustic mountain]

wat r u yapping about

[foggy lodge]

this is a recording of me btw

[left bobcat]

well since everything has been “figured out”

[molten oasis]

Genuinely idk what to do, cuz I just, have a weird brain and don’t like any other restricted

[rustic mountain]

im sure theyll be some progression on it but generally yea i personally cant see it going to far away from either of those type of cores

[left bobcat]

There’s still more options

[molten oasis]

Not for the dog

CSR can go on like, anything

[left bobcat]

Ah well who cares about zacian

[rustic mountain]

clearly drago does

[molten oasis]

[foggy lodge]

Strongest Zac warrior

[left bobcat]

Oh-

[rustic mountain]

strongest would be the ones who did well w/ it at worlds haha but dragos top 5

[molten oasis]

I’ve, genuinely tried everyone else, I like zacian

[left bobcat]

Have you really?

[molten oasis]

YES

[left bobcat]

Sureeeeeeeeeeee

[rustic mountain]

drago doesnt like winning

[foggy lodge]

Strongest is uhhh

[rustic mountain]

(jk drago)

[molten oasis]

[foggy lodge]

Grant Weldon and Kian Campbell

[left bobcat]

I keep thinking about regidrago

Instead of drago

[foggy lodge]

There must be other Zac players but those are the ones i remember

[left bobcat]

Because regidrago also kinda gets walled by zacian

[molten oasis]

I feel like those 2 have just cracked the code

[foggy lodge]

drago just go with Zacian Regidrago

Its literally your name + your favorite restricted

[left bobcat]

What could possibly go wrong

[molten oasis]

And there’s nothing to build and I’m not the person to play with prebuilt stuff

[rustic mountain]

they def did also think 1 player played the archetype a lot (grant) and had a level of comfortability with the team and the other just genuinely seems pretty cracked at the game

[molten oasis]

Idk why I just tend to have less motivation when I have something prebuilt

[left bobcat]

One mon that I have nothing for is mewtwo

[foggy lodge]

Depends of what your goals are

[molten oasis]

Goals? Hehe

[foggy lodge]

You can go with my Roaring Moon + Ogerpon Teal Mask idea ig but i don't know if you'd like it

[left bobcat]

I like roaring moon

[rustic mountain]

i feel like for u drago its all about the journey and never the destination which in the case of vgc, isnt a good thing haha like even if u built something really good i feel ud be dissatisfied within a short span and ready to move on to the next thing

[left bobcat]

The booster energy dragon dance Tera flying acrobatics is a fun thing

[foggy lodge]

^

[molten oasis]

the only time I got satisfied with a team was reg f

Can we have reg f back that be pretty cool

[foggy lodge]

You switch a lot with teams

[left bobcat]

It was alright

[foggy lodge]

Like every day i found you building another team

[left bobcat]

At least we didn’t have to worry about the horses and the lizards and the giant whale

[molten oasis]

What is the end goal

What is the destination

[rustic mountain]

i mean something u generally gta ask urself, but for me its actually having a team and playing the game consistently. i could be wrong but i feel u spend way more time in the builder

[left bobcat]

I play just to play atp

I have a bunch of teams in the vault

Well I keep it all in my server