competitive_discussion

[molten oasis]

that sucks

[lofty tartan]

Nah it was fine

Until I broke a part of the leg frame

[molten oasis]

lol, fixed the panel lining broke the kit

[lofty tartan]

I don't like chrome

I've got a Unicorn Phoenix that is all gold chrome. I'm going to strip it and repaint it

Collects dust and finger prints

[molten oasis]

the $200 RG?

ok why is it $200 there wtf, expensive RG

i see what you mean tho, lots of chrome

[lofty tartan]

It's an MG

Mine is, that is.

Sorry "phenex" 🙄

The psycho frame kits are super cool because it has cool effect parts under the armor kit, part of the frame. They're made to open up and expose the effects

I see new MG Phenex for about 150ish

But yeah so shiny and chromed

[molten oasis]

i have one of those rn

i have the MG

[lofty tartan]

There's Unicorn, Banshee, Phenex and then Gundam A/B/C Packs

[molten oasis]

Banshee

[lofty tartan]

Bandai gave me a free Banshee Norn and Gundam Unicorn Full Armor RG xD

[molten oasis]

how'd that happen?

[lofty tartan]

I was a content creator for BNEA

[molten oasis]

oh cool

[lofty tartan]

One of those internal relationships

Yeah it was pretty awesome. Free games free kits. They sent me a personalized Timbuk2 backpack with Gundam branding - stuff like that.

Hoodie, hat, sweatpants, etc. I wear all of that stuff now - very comfy

[molten oasis]

nice, sounds fun to do something like that

[lofty tartan]

I still play ffxiv with the BNEA community manager lol

He's in my free company

I was writing Gundam content for Gamepress and doing streams and I made a big discord that became the community hub, so I caught their attention.

Helped them with a few extra things due to my particular background. Was a good time. I sorta miss it sometimes

[molten oasis]

thats an awesoe experience

[lofty tartan]

It was pretty awesome xD

[near crag]

Hey, I've been working on lots of variations for a team of mine, and those two seem to be the most promissing: https://pokepast.es/f270da6ccc1f00d3, and https://pokepast.es/589745cbb317fd75. The first has whimsicott and gengar, and the second one has talonflame and rillaboom. So if you think one is better than the other, or if you spot any flaws on the team, I'd be very happy to hear it!

[foggy lodge]

@dense latch que Fola se hizo top cut dios mio WUAKDKDK

[foggy lodge]

I like the second one

I think Gengar is bad

[near crag]

The biggest reason for gengar is to imprison tr and haze, since I have no answer for those two, but to be honest I also like the second one better. Only big concerns on that are tr and a bit of rain.

[foggy lodge]

I don't get why would you need to counter haze

I mean i can kinda understand the imprison TR tho i don't think the team has problems against TR because you AV Blursa but why haze

[balmy glen]

Haze makes no sense lmao

[dense latch]

MI GOAT

[chrome knot]

literally begging him to sucker punch luna like

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-pokemon-punch-gif-16139315

[chrome knot]

ugliest finals in awhile

[foggy lodge]

Game 3 probably

[bold geode]

The Arch live was clutch

[bold geode]

Are you not feeling legendary from this stream

[chrome knot]

no game 1 he was trolling for fun

[bold geode]

Was he?

[chrome knot]

yes

that first game was literally wintrading lmfao

[foggy lodge]

Damn +2 Shadow Ball did more than i thought

Well 4th regional for Sneasler lol

[bold geode]

That Gholdengo had to have had hardly any investment for special attacks, no way that Shadow Ball does that much

[foggy lodge]

that was a lot of ha

But yes maybe its 252 252¿

I didn't see the HP

[bold geode]

https://x.com/g1ble_/status/1863094240521437487?t=vfSwfbJyv1wFJxq9zc3yAw&s=19

mickey ➡️ toronto (@g1ble_) on X

too much dire claw hax so I drew sneasler dying in a glue trap

Twitter · Dec 1, 2024, 5:34 AM

[craggy dagger]

[bold geode]

Hai bestie

[mint void]

Had the most rollercoaster game yet man. Tera Dark KG gets crit by Annihilape for OHKO so I dont get to knock out the Indeedee.
Then we are 2v2 at aome point arch and pelipper vs Kilowattell and Whimsicott, Kilowattell Electric Tera. TBolt Paras Arch and gets double para. Whims trades with pelipper.
2nd TBolt leaves Arch at 1 HP exactly after Wrch got parad twice. And he gets to clutch with Dragon Pulse

Imma go play League now thats less stressful

[torn parrot]

Meeemawww

[dapper crag]

Is this a good pikachu set? Pikachu-Hoenn @ Light Ball
Ability: Lightning Rod
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Discharge
• Surf
• Rest
• Sleep Talk

[mint void]

What is a Hoenn Pikachu?

[chrome knot]

so what format is it for

[mint void]

@dapper crag

[near crag]

I might be wrong, but surf seems kinda pointless, pikachu doesn't have the bulk to pull a rest off, discharge with 252 SpA could be replaced with wild charge 252 Atk, and a big part of its value comes from fake out, and maybe feint, with this bulk protect should be valuable, and the tera type should be ghost, since fout takes out half its hp.

[near crag]

hoenn cap skin, there is one for each region and partner

[dapper crag]

I checked showdown and there's ground types so I got surf

:)

[chrome knot]

what format is it for

[near crag]

yea, I get this, but the other moves seem to get more value, and this forces you to use SpA

[dapper crag]

you know the competition with seniors and juniors

[chrome knot]

what

[mint void]

@dapper crag no man we dont

Like VGC has that kinda

[near crag]

Doesn't this apply to every offical tournament?

[mint void]

^mostly

@dapper crag doubles or singles.

[dapper crag]

nvm

[near crag]

I mean, pikachu could work in current vgc, it's just kinda hard to pull off

[dapper crag]

like ground types have a water weakness and I need something to attack them

also doubles

I got a plan for the other pokemon

[near crag]

send the paste

[chrome knot]

@craggy dagger haaii novaaaa

[mint void]

If its doubles you ahould defo.listen to @near crag
Pikachus Partner can just deal with the ground types or u switch out

[dapper crag]

Crusher (Garchomp) @ Razor Claw
Ability: Rough Skin
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Swords Dance
• Shadow Claw
• Earthquake
• Substitute I made that on showdown

[dapper crag]

yeah actually I'm gonna replace the pikachu

[chrome knot]

o hell no

[mint void]

@dapper crag hey

Check on sd

Click the thing I circled and send us the website link

You send the whole team in a tiny link with that

*Upload to Pokepaste"

[dapper crag]

I'm still planning the whole team I know garchomp is done

cause I don't wanna screw it after I build it

[mint void]

Just drop what you got alr if u want

[mint void]

The garchomp is ok. Id swap Razor Claw dor Life Orb(just is more consistent and deals more dmg in exchange for a little HP).
AND earthquake also hits your partner so swapping it for Stomping Tantrum is viable. It deals the same damage effectively but single target.

[dapper crag]

https://pokepast.es/ac452068467ced3b

There

[mint void]

Reminder that what we say are suggestions and you can take them or not. Play so that it works for you.

@dapper crag whats the reason behind dragon Tail.

[dapper crag]

theyhavetoswitchtoarandomally

Why discord

[mint void]

Isnt worth it. Very little dmg and always foes last. Rather replace it for something more consistent and stronger.

Id put the Life Orb on Chomp and give DNite a Loaded Dice and Teach it Scale Shot instead of Dragon Tail

[stuck pine]

also is the dragonite supposed to be a support mon? since it has tailwind and dragon cheeer?

[near crag]

If you want to go with equake (what i've used), maybe going for flying types could be cool (and you can build a core from that, like pelliper rain), also go for more defensive tera types, and tailwind with dnite although fine, is kinda hard to use, IMO.

[lean wind]

Hybrid,It can also do damage while supporting teammates

[mint void]

Also Tailwind could be swapped with Haze so you can deal with dangerous threats that boost their stats like SD kingambit or Dondozo Tatsugiri

[stuck pine]

i feel like life orb would be wasted on the dragonite

[mint void]

^ is bigger on Garchomp

[dapper crag]

Peliper I am probably gonna use and it is a hybrid support and damage

[near crag]

Or maybe ice spinner to abuse priority (or even both, you got three slots)

[stuck pine]

because it feels like the main mon that you're trying to highlight is the chomp so maybe just put it on him

[lean wind]

Reg G is back lets goooo

[near crag]

You know what's comming next month?

[mint void]

Reg G

[lean wind]

I know that

[dapper crag]

I'm gonna use a zorowark cause of illusion

[mint void]

@dapper crag do the Hisuian. Its just a lil better.

[near crag]

isn't this month reg g, and next month something else?

[mint void]

@near crag for showdown maybe. I mean VGC

[lean wind]

why the fuck i saw Rilla+Miraidon already

[mint void]

Reg G comes back Jan 6th

[dapper crag]

I was gonna use it anyways cause I saw it was stronger on showdown

[near crag]

I'm also talking vgc, I'm just absolutely lost in the rulesets

[stuck pine]

do u guys think archaludon's still gonna be a big deal once reg g comes around?

[mint void]

Reg H is until 6th Jan. Then is Reg G again

[mint void]

No. But its still gonna be decent as all Pseudos

Just not crazy as it is rn

[near crag]

Oh, ok, and do you know for how much time?

[bold geode]

Ladder up?

[lean wind]

LADDER UP

[stuck pine]

but Reg G only limits you to one legendary right?

that's what i read from pokemon home

[mint void]

@stuck pine 1 restricted legendary

[lean wind]

1 box art legendary (Miraidon as example

[mint void]

You can run non restricted legendary

[stuck pine]

ohhhh

[lean wind]

damn Shadow Ball Miraidon

Thats Meta lmao

oh its just a zoroark

[mint void]

@near crag Until 1st of May. The we get sth new

[stuck pine]

you guys think rayquaza would be a good mon for reg g?

[lean wind]

nope its mid

[mint void]

Compared to the others not too much no

[dapper crag]

https://pokepast.es/fc1fff7a85c2ff8d any ideas for peliper I'll find pokemon which work with it

[mint void]

Mega would be a different talk but normal is meh

[stuck pine]

ah gotcha

i want to try getting into competitive within the actual game and not just showdown

[mint void]

@dapper crag
Pelipper @ Focus Sash
Ability: Drizzle
Tera: Stellar/Ghost
252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 HP
IVs: 0 Atk
-Tailwind
-Hurrican
-Weather Ball
-Protect

[dapper crag]

thank you

[gentle crag]

adamheavenyeah has given 1 Gen Rep to lnk1603

[mint void]

OR
Pelipper @ Choice Scarf
Tera: Ground
Abilty: Drizzle
252 Spa / 252 Spe / 4 HP
IVs: 0 Atk
-Hurrican
-Ice Beam
-Tera Blast
-Weather Ball

[near crag]

https://pokepast.es/ae860750312dba97 check this out, it's a rain team I've built, and although it's not fantastic, you could maybe get some ideas

[dapper crag]

thank you

[gentle crag]

You gave Gen Rep too recently. You can give Gen Rep again <t:1733075381:R>.

[mint void]

@near crag imma steal. Wanna play some Gyrados

[bold geode]

LMAO FIRST MATCH WAS AGAINST RAY

[lean wind]

my first match is against Miraidon with Rilla lmao

[mint void]

https://pokepast.es/d505fdee659e596f
Funny Mono Type Team for Gym Challenge

[near crag]

gholdengo on the terastal slot would be foul

[dapper crag]

https://pokepast.es/a9e288e0c5673bba heres what I've made

I think I screwed up I'm not sure

[bold geode]

2-1 rn
I lost to the fucking Dewgong shit

[lean wind]

2-2 for me

Lost to CIR and Kyogre(With Lando)

all my wins are against Mirai wtf

[bold geode]

Kyogre MU too ez

#46 on ladder already
Big pog

[timber falcon]

reg G out?

[lean wind]

already

[timber falcon]

almost missed it

[lean wind]

damn Koraidon MU is alright

I won all the Mirror Miraidon MUs what the heck-

already #63 LOL

[dense latch]

this is my only chance of getting rank 1 lmao

[lean wind]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2254662175-mam2744pwqm2hmfoy8q03a5zr7cxruapw

This is so fucking stupid

[timber falcon]

ive legit forgotten half the available MUs

Fricking Chi -yu about to ruin my day

[tiny karma]

Ability: Neutralizing Gas

While this Pokemon is active, Abilities have no effect. This Ability activates before hazards and other Abilities take effect. Does not affect the As One, Battle Bond, Comatose, Disguise, Gulp Missile, Ice Face, Multitype, Neutralizing Gas, Power Construct, RKS System, Schooling, Shields Down, Stance Change, Tera Shift, Zen Mode, or Zero to Hero Abilities.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[lean wind]

Gottem

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2254666139

[stuck pine]

i feel like i need to buy pokemon sword and shield to have competitive mons on regulation g T^T

[spiral ridge]

Could do a rental team

[lean wind]

Scotty I got top 15 now lol

[spiral ridge]

Nice

[mint void]

@stuck pine do.u play VGC?

[dull ibex]

why am i dogshit at reg g

[mint void]

Like tourneys in person?

[mint void]

Same but i just have no experience and dont have a food team rn.

[lean wind]

I'm happy that i got top 20 for a brief moment

[dull ibex]

I dont have either of these issues ngl

I have experience with reg g and a good team

[stuck pine]

not really but i do want to try!

[mint void]

Like in person tourneys too?

@stuck pine

[timber falcon]

having the same problem rn]

[dull ibex]

fair

[lean wind]

No.23 rn in the Ladder

I'll take it i never go so high before in day 1

[stuck pine]

idk about this but i do want to climb the ladder on my switch

[potent coyote]

Bruh it’s like hour 1 lol

1 win puts you in top 100

[timber falcon]

im still trying to team build lol

[lean wind]

Switch's Reg G is in Jan lol

[foggy lodge]

so this happened

[lean wind]

I mean I'll take it lmao

[lean wind]

pov when you did not double check your team builders

[spiral ridge]

Dude nah sometimes I fix something. Upload to showdown. Come back next day and it’s reverted

Most infuriating thing

[mint void]

But its fun to build teams from scratch ngl.

Especially since new gens give u a bunch of opportunities to boost shiny rates

[spiral ridge]

Pretty damn sure

[mint void]

Fair

[foggy lodge]

😭

[mint void]

Anyways, what makes Miraidon very Sad?

[foggy lodge]

3-0 at bo3 rn

[lean wind]

Uhhhh CIR?

Rilla?

[spiral ridge]

Forgetting armor tail is so real

[mint void]

What is CIR man

[spiral ridge]

Ice rider

[mint void]

Use full words. Did no one teach u that not everyone knows the abbreviations u use?

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/glastrier-gif-21054576

[mint void]

Okok. If thats not an option?

[spiral ridge]

In comp chat pretty much everyone knows it or just ask once and now you know for future

[spiral ridge]

Rillaboom

[mint void]

Rill sure

[foggy lodge]

just learn the vocabulary kek

[spiral ridge]

Also is this dmax glacial wtf

That looks awesome

[pallid hare]

no, thats just its animation from SWSH

[foggy lodge]

no its just that Sw/Sh had better animations

[next stump]

they heavily downgraded animations in this game lol

[spiral ridge]

Thats a fucking huge attack for normal

[mint void]

Well sure but just assuming someone knows who isnt a regular just isnt clever.
How often I have seen people talk to newbies like they know everything already, while they are talking to a newbie that doesnt know shit.
You gotta adapt.

[spiral ridge]

I loved swsh man

[mint void]

Meh

[next stump]

nothing like watching that insane animation play out only for it to do 15% to incin

[mint void]

Was boring

[spiral ridge]

If the newbie doesn’t know and you answer them then that newbie is immediately more knowledgeable

If someone comes into the place getting them adjusted to how people talk seems like a good idea

Gotta learn at some point and people answered immediately on what CIR stood for

[mint void]

Well yes but you can just, if you realise its someone that is new us the abbreviation with explanation ao they dont have to always come back to ask

[spiral ridge]

Well sometimes people do know. People can watch stuff before getting into it themself. And if they’re already asking stuff no harm in asking more

I don’t really see the issue

[foggy lodge]

all of this just because someone didn't know a comp term lmao

[mint void]

Yes you fet adjusted after time but if directly talking to someone not fluent in your lingo its beenficial for communication if both sides use full words and no professional terms that might not be known by one side

[lean wind]

Suicune in Day 1 2025 Reg G lmao

[tiny karma]

Ability: Neutralizing Gas

While this Pokemon is active, Abilities have no effect. This Ability activates before hazards and other Abilities take effect. Does not affect the As One, Battle Bond, Comatose, Disguise, Gulp Missile, Ice Face, Multitype, Neutralizing Gas, Power Construct, RKS System, Schooling, Shields Down, Stance Change, Tera Shift, Zen Mode, or Zero to Hero Abilities.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[mint void]

Nah. Its just way too common across servers. Its just such big if a time waste.

Not that important though yeah

We xould go back to making miraidon sad.

[spiral ridge]

If it’s common across servers then maybe it isn’t the servers of hundreds of peoples issues

[foggy lodge]

Then talk to other servers if asking what something means takes you that much time

[spiral ridge]

Miraidon was sad cus people needed to figure them out. They needed answers for what made it meh outside of its vacuum. Once they did its been quite dominant

It was first reg G regional where we were shown it “figured out” right?

It won

Maybe it wasn’t the first I could be lying out of my ass

[mint void]

Yeah. I would like to keep it sad for now. Or rather make it sad temporarily qhen I see it.

[spiral ridge]

It’s not been sad for a while. Won worlds

[mint void]

Rill shuts his dmg down well through terrain

[next stump]

yeah miraidon won the first reg G regional, indianapolis

[spiral ridge]

Rajan bal yeah

Tailroom team

[mint void]

Yeah Im aware its good. Thats why Id like to make it sad.

At least temporarily

[spiral ridge]

Super fun tailroom team I fucking loved that team

[lean wind]

everyone did not use Choice Specs and Tera Electric cuz they fear of the major setback

And there is not that many Ground Types during that regional

[lean wind]

i might edit my team later lol

[spiral ridge]

Didn’t they use choice Tera electric in that team?

[spiral ridge]

That team got me into tailroom and I like building it. Although my Zama team is balance so I’ve been getting decent with that

Except Zama is such a crutch lol it feels no skill

[lean wind]

Pre Reg G

[mint void]

https://pokepast.es/ef07017d2c4cd6f5

[foggy lodge]

I'm using Luca's team

[spiral ridge]

Ohhh yeah

[mint void]

@spiral ridge yes thats the team

[foggy lodge]

1100 bo3 rn i want to get to 1500

[lean wind]

eh it does not feel no skill honestly

I actually think its fun

[spiral ridge]

I feel brain dead when I use zama lol

[shadow wind]

I mean if your opponent doesn’t have an answer you just win

[spiral ridge]

It kinda just clicked for me one day and feels really easy

[shadow wind]

Unless a crit I guess

[lean wind]

i mean i just fucking stalled a Calm Mind Miraidon with a Whimsicott Rajan Bal Style

[mint void]

Zama itself feels simple but its just like Top3 Legies for me.

[spiral ridge]

Encore?

[foggy lodge]

anyways 3 bo3 and the three were CalyDow😭

[spiral ridge]

It’s stupid strong yeah

[foggy lodge]

Put me a different restricted please

[spiral ridge]

Dow?

[lean wind]

I have the replay if i recall

[lean wind]

i only saw one

I saw more CIR

and Kyogre

[spiral ridge]

OH DUDE END KF G REG BEFORE WAS FAKE TEARS WHIMSI PLEASE TELL ME THAT ISNT BACK

[lean wind]

and idk if Rajin01 is Rajan but he uses Kyogre if he is him

idk man

[spiral ridge]

I hated this with fairy mirai

[foggy lodge]

Which ladder are y'all playing

[dense latch]

bo1

[lean wind]

B01 currently

might play B03 cuz Birmingham Practice

[next stump]

heavily recommend bo3 ladder for tourney practice once you’ve kinda settled on a team

[shadow wind]

Is the venue for that Birmingham palace?

[lean wind]

why would you think its there-

[lean wind]

probably,I'm dead set with the Miraidon Team

[shadow wind]

For fun

[tiny karma]

Ability: Neutralizing Gas

While this Pokemon is active, Abilities have no effect. This Ability activates before hazards and other Abilities take effect. Does not affect the As One, Battle Bond, Comatose, Disguise, Gulp Missile, Ice Face, Multitype, Neutralizing Gas, Power Construct, RKS System, Schooling, Shields Down, Stance Change, Tera Shift, Zen Mode, or Zero to Hero Abilities.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[timber falcon]

ive just made my first 5 members for my team and realised

i didnt pick a restricted :/

[lean wind]

i did not realise i fought red-

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/fa8f05018a754650 team isnt done but any thoughts?

[spiral ridge]

Are you running bolt weeding together?

Weezing

[foggy lodge]

5-0 at BO3 rn uhhhh

I found some interesting teams

I found an Ariados Blissey Rhyperior team😭

[timber falcon]

yep

[spiral ridge]

I guess that’s okay but all your team kinda likes their abilities a lot.
What enemies is this for? Mirai terrain set or something?

[foggy lodge]

5-1

I lost against the CalyDow Geezing Dozogiri team

i need match up into that thing😭

[spiral ridge]

What is Dow?

[dense latch]

shadow

[foggy lodge]

Caly Shadow

[dense latch]

i hate that team so much

[spiral ridge]

Ohhh

[foggy lodge]

dude yeah

es pesao

[dense latch]

i have no mu into it either

[spiral ridge]

Geezing is being used with CSR and dozogiri? Both those guys abilities are busted tho

[foggy lodge]

cause like my plan was just Whimsi Mirai but then they lead with Geezing CalyDow and

let's say choice specs tera ghost astral barrage does damage

[timber falcon]

why did i just face a CSR and not bring terapagos with me

my brain is melting

[foggy lodge]

yes

[dense latch]

lol

[spiral ridge]

Is the idea just CSR is just a stat check beast?

[foggy lodge]

Asian players have been using that since like

[spiral ridge]

And is too fast naturally

[foggy lodge]

not really it just forced 50/50s

I went 1-2 cause i catched them off guard with the TR gameplan but its hard anyways

[spiral ridge]

What kinda 50/50s? just guessing their lead

[foggy lodge]

yes the lead normally

Because you also have to take into account the Dozo

Is kinda of like a 2-2-2

But not a 2-2-2 strictly

[spiral ridge]

Yeah I see that

Reminds me of some gimmick teams I’ve faced

[foggy lodge]

The comp i faced was uhh

[spiral ridge]

Where they have just a couple you need to answer T1 or 2 or bleh. So gotta guess

[mental tangle]

How come I can’t put rental teams into Pokémon showdown?

[spiral ridge]

That’s for cart. You need to import on showdown

[foggy lodge]

Choice specs Tera Ghost Calyrex Shadow
Cloak Tera Normal Galarian Weezing
Sash tera fighting Mienshao
Scarf Tera Ghost Chi-Yu
Leftovers Tera Grass Dondozo
Assault Vest tera normal i think Tatsugiri Droopy

The Giri has mirror coat counter

[tiny karma]

Move: Mirror Coat

Deals damage to the last opposing Pokemon to hit the user with a special attack this turn equal to twice the HP lost by the user from that attack. If the user did not lose HP from the attack, this move deals 1 HP of damage instead. If that opposing Pokemon's position is no longer in use and there is another opposing Pokemon on the field, the damage is done to it instead. Only the last hit of a multi-hit attack is counted. Fails if the user was not hit by an opposing Pokemon's special attack this turn.

Type

Psychic

Category

Special

Power

0

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

20 (32)

Priority

-5

Move Flags

​

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[spiral ridge]

Gross

Surprised not sash if health based

But I guess it’s safer

[lean wind]

I just Bring Crown and Tera Crown Immediately

[spiral ridge]

Oh mien has sash that’s why lol

[lean wind]

Mienshao moment

[spiral ridge]

Miensaosh

[lean wind]

Miensash

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/e014b5b02c7b7462

[spiral ridge]

Oh it’s a worlds team too

[foggy lodge]

What is crown going to do against Tera ghost choice specs astral barrage😭

[lean wind]

if i saw Dozogiri i'm gonna cry

[lean wind]

ok maybe becaus ei'm facing against Lorb and my opponent is stupid

[spiral ridge]

Just curious what teams did this lose to in worlds if you know

[foggy lodge]

probably checkable in pokestats

[spiral ridge]

Gotcha

[lean wind]

I Tacyhon Cutter the Weezing while tailwind Whims

[foggy lodge]

Let me search it

[spiral ridge]

You wouldn’t get tw up before caly hits tho

[foggy lodge]

i just want to remind you

neutralizing gas

[mental tangle]

I found a team online and I pressed “import” on showdown and typed in the code but nothing happened

[lean wind]

yeah but I Tera'd Iron Crown into Ground and it survived soooo

[spiral ridge]

Because codes are just for cart. Can you send a link to what you’re tryna get?

[foggy lodge]

Yeah against lorb probably

Wide guard is good against that team i just don't have wide guard lol

[spiral ridge]

Zama :3

[lean wind]

i might try Zama once i ask nova for the zama

[mint void]

.

[spiral ridge]

Monke gave me a worlds team that was good ask for that and I can say what I changed on it

[next stump]

you should see a link that starts with pokepast.es

[lean wind]

i see

[next stump]

if you're inputting a code, you're in the wrong place/using the wrong thing

[spiral ridge]

I changed just like a move or something

Took out some RNGesus

[lean wind]

hmmmmm

[mint void]

A Zama team?

[lean wind]

I might just go for Entei Torn for Zama

[spiral ridge]

Entei is on it yeah

[spiral ridge]

Yeah was one of the top placers

[mint void]

Michaels?

[spiral ridge]

Uh MDB

I think was the initials

[lean wind]

The Goat

MDB the GOAT

[spiral ridge]

Yeah that

[mint void]

Mdb is michale

MichaelderBeste

[lean wind]

yea

[mint void]

@lean wind do.u have the EVs?

[lean wind]

sorry i'm not a dedicated Zama player i don't think i have the EVs

[spiral ridge]

Ngl when he sent me the team since I forget names I thought it was dillon here team 😭

MLDB lol

[mint void]

RIP. Ok. Imma figure it out

[lean wind]

Rn i'm just finding my flex mon

[next stump]

LOL yeah he’s stealing my name

[lean wind]

[mental tangle]

All I know is that the rental code is X4YK8V, I’m really new to this so I don’t really know a whole bunch, sorry

[spiral ridge]

Hey that’s all good. Do you own a switch and Pokémon scarlet or violet?

If not you sadly can’t use that. But if you have a photo with the rental code showing the team I can maybe do some magic

[spiral ridge]

I was like. “Shit I knew he was a comp helper but DAMN HES GOOD going that far” 😭

[mental tangle]

I do actually

[spiral ridge]

NSO as well?

[mental tangle]

Nso… Nathaniel’s.. spicy omelet? (I’m sorry I need to learn the words here lol)

[spiral ridge]

Nintendo switch online

Lmao

[mental tangle]

Ahh

No I don’t, that sucks

[spiral ridge]

:( sorry then

Do you have a photo of the team?

[mental tangle]

No, but I got it from a Reddit post

[mint void]

@mental tangle the Rental code only works in game. You can rent the team with the xode and use it in Online battles which require online services.

[mint void]

Drop the link to it if u have it

[mental tangle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/VGC/comments/14pqoy8/help_making_a_toxicroak_team/?rdt=50521

[mint void]

If you wanna import things into Showdown you need this format: https://pokepast.es/84a9b3b89bd685c3

[spiral ridge]

This is uh. Very old 😭

I’d look for something newer

[mental tangle]

Oh, I see

[spiral ridge]

As it’s old regulation

[mental tangle]

Maybe I can make one

[spiral ridge]

That’s always an option

Currently its regulation H

Here uh

Where is tofu I need to steal his blog link

https://tofu-snorlax.hatenablog.com/

This talks about reg H and reg G which we’ll be going back to in a month. Talks about archetypes and stuff

[mint void]

The team still would work in Reg H though

Simply by ruleset..if you want to play one of these mons specifically

@mental tangle

[spiral ridge]

Yeah but I just assumed they wanted a standard team to start

[mint void]

If not and if u want something strong you should look into something else

[spiral ridge]

And also good to learn what you may face

[mental tangle]

I’m just trying to start out sort of casual

[mint void]

@mental tangle aince your main playground is showdown you should probably focus on Regulation G

Its already back there and with onyl 1 month left in H it isnt worth getting into anymore.

[spiral ridge]

Yeah

[mint void]

Regulation G allows all Legendaries and Paradox mons excluding a few "Restricted Legendaries"

Of these few "Restricted" ones you are allowed only one

[mental tangle]

I might honestly just do another playthrough of violet with a poison centric team

[mint void]

So your team should be built around it so you can always bring it to the battle since it is your strongest mon

[mental tangle]

It’s been like. A year

[mint void]

Have fun sir

Imma do a nuzlock soon

I tend to wipe to the first Nemona battle where ahe can tera her pawmi that one taps anything that doesnt resist

[mental tangle]

I might actually do a nuzlocke in sword, I’ve never actually done on before

[foggy lodge]

why do i keep running into CalyDow Geezing aaaa

[mental tangle]

Sword I know the best

[foggy lodge]

it deactivates hadron engine and prankster😭

[spiral ridge]

:(

[cerulean rose]

Hey is anyone interested in joining this doubles tournament? If you are then dm me, we just need one more entry to start

[foggy lodge]

3 Geezing CalyDow in a row the match up is shit but its lowkey fun

[mint void]

@foggy lodge whats dow again

[foggy lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/gaming-gif-24052299

[spiral ridge]

shadow

[austere radish]

I need help making my pokemon good

[austere radish]

Sure

[next stump]

what specifically?

[mint void]

was abt to ask

[austere radish]

Like everything. Moves evs the lot lol

[mint void]

wich pokemon bruv

[austere radish]

Multiple

[mint void]

with names?

[austere radish]

Gardevoir, brelloom, alolan right (think I got good for him tho) , lycenrock and landorus dig form

[mint void]

right=raichu with auto correct?

[austere radish]

Yea

Richu

[mint void]

GL

[austere radish]

Oh god

[next stump]

this chat is for competitive help, PVP battles essentially. Are you playing online battles with that team? If you are, are you playing singles or doubles?

[austere radish]

Yes and doubles

Entering a tournament with them

Oh and Mimikyu forgot to mention

[next stump]

Does the tournament use the current ruleset, Regulation H?

[austere radish]

No idea

[mint void]

Its prolly this tourney he joined form the dude that asked no?

[next stump]

Ask the tournament organizer

[mint void]

figure the ruleset. Which mons are allowed and how many

[austere radish]

Yup I am

[mint void]

if the others come with 6 restricted u are cooked

[austere radish]

I'll DM u what i know

[mint void]

drop it here. Here are a lot of people that can help

at least ot some degree

[austere radish]

Can't

Not allowed

[mint void]

ok

[lean wind]

hmmmm

[torn parrot]

yayyee nice little super early ladder rank 1

[next stump]

wow, TCG had a clean top 8 cut today despite the new system that allows for asymmetrical brackets if needed

[balmy glen]

They got lucky so much ties happened lol

[torn parrot]

when they think they've escaped sneasler

[molten oasis]

That’s called copium

[torn parrot]

lol

[lean wind]

Sneasler Copium

[foggy lodge]

What's the point of Sneasler in that team even

😭

[dense latch]

how many games have u guys played so far

[bold geode]

Can I get some honest opinions on this team
https://pokepast.es/828afc734d22d54b

[molten oasis]

It’s solid

What are you struggling with?

[bold geode]

I probably gotta add Spinner just for CSR with P Terrain
Sucks cuz Crash + Hands Wild Charge just kills Mirai unless it switches making that MU easier

[molten oasis]

Does spinner mess up that calc?

[torn parrot]

thats a prettty cool team

[bold geode]

Yes

[molten oasis]

Is there not a better combo of moves for that then?

[bold geode]

Yes it does
Hands loses the boost
So if it teras then you miss out but with Crash it is a guarantee

[molten oasis]

Oh

You have 2 dark types why are you struggling with psyspam variant?

[craggy dagger]

[bold geode]

Probably
Then again idk if I really NEED to remove Mirai on turn 1

[molten oasis]

If you chunk it sucker should always knock it iut

[bold geode]

It's more the terrain is there
Oh what if Spinner Shifu

[molten oasis]

Ig

[bold geode]

Aqua Jet was really just a placeholder anyways cuz I was never clicking Coaching

But the real pain is CSR Weezing

Why I always gotta struggle against that fucker

[chrome knot]

hi stinkyyy

[bold geode]

Well at least all the teams are actually well formed lol

And not just Chi Yu CSR spam

[torn parrot]

rayquaza is so cool

maybe i play rayqauza cus we getting a shiny rayquaza

[craggy dagger]

i’m not stimky

[chrome knot]

very stimkyyy

[torn parrot]

i need dinner

[chrome knot]

pizza!!!

[torn parrot]

ITS PIZZA TIME

BBBBAAAAYYBEEEEEEE

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man2-spider-man-tobey-maguire-pizza-time-spiderman-meme-gif-26415903

[foggy lodge]

lost due to a double protect thanks

i hate double protect

[dense latch]

i think im two games away from rank 1

[lean wind]

P i z z a

do i have image perms now

nope

[foggy lodge]

another calydow geezing and now with indeedee

expanding force fun les gooo

i still don't know what is my match up into that i think Hands as lead is okay

[lean wind]

not again-\

[foggy lodge]

but like everything else is obliterated by astral barrage

like what do i do i don't have terrain or prankster 😭

[real prairie]

Me entering Birmingham regional

[craggy dagger]

:((((
i just got out the shower an hour ago though

[lean wind]

good luck

[chrome knot]

oohhhhh okay

not stinkkyyyyy

[real prairie]

Cheers x

[gentle crag]

oneofakindof has given 1 Gen Rep to morrispxg

[real prairie]

Who knows, we may end up playing each other lol

[craggy dagger]

[lean wind]

ok i thought you did not notice i'm the same guy lol

[polar nest]

https://pokepast.es/b83fd67fa53893c4 idk what to put as the 6th pokemon

[real prairie]

I struggle with that sometimes haha GL to u 2 obvs

[cyan smelt]

half your team is sneasler bait

[dull ibex]

😭

[torn parrot]

i love clicking tera ghost in front of calyrex shadow because its cts

[chrome knot]

no speed control + grimm weird on ho bc u force a mon to play solo

[dull ibex]

I think people are sick of zamazenta lmao

got two forfeits in a row

and my first game was a forfeit

[torn parrot]

dang

[bold geode]

I mean I didn't really think of it as HO tbh

[chrome knot]

literally how

everyone here is looking to kill shit

[bold geode]

The core was Ray Grimm Hands Pao
Setup and sweep
Ursh and Hearth were there because I was lacking some offense

[cyan smelt]

i should hop back on the reg g ladder

how's ray going for you monke

[chrome knot]

that “core” has a crippling fairy weakness

[bold geode]

Ok cool

I'm sorry I'll look at advice later I kinda just need to step away for a sec

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/smallyeevgc/status/1862911183516561656?t=EdzWcLuSl2Vn2NvDRky95w&s=19

小Yee (@smallyeevgc) on X

本次紀念球賽的使用隊伍，雖然沒有取得好成績，但因為SD有使用這隊在H規Bo1和Bo3都取得1700的分數，因此決定還是寫個report

感謝@Mochachiiino 接受委託繪製，本隊使用速圍彩皮魚凍風來幫助火爆獸與赫月熊控速，打出驚人傷害

猩猩與布撥來補忙，因為本隊較不好打烈咬

Twitter · Nov 30, 2024, 5:26 PM

Is that a Bruxish

Excuse me

[spiral ridge]

@craggy dagger bruxish recognition

[polar nest]

ok

[craggy dagger]

fwy prio deny

[cyan smelt]

bruxish is funni

[potent coyote]

Anyone have an offensive life orb shadow rider ev spread?

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/LexiconVGC/status/1863325416964153363

Alex Underhill (@LexiconVGC) on X

Regulation G is back on showdown

Twitter · Dec 1, 2024, 8:52 PM

[potent coyote]

Mid Squad

[foggy lodge]

Long live elementary types core

[shadow wind]

Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions mentioned 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

What a long name for a game

[dense latch]

insane piece of dialogue

[shadow wind]

Roy is the goat, he be saying things like that

[cyan smelt]

i want to build a reg h team around kilowattrel

[dense latch]

i wanna be part of roy's goon squad

[potent coyote]

Wtf

Attack on Sneasler

[shadow wind]

What I see in my nightmares

[dense latch]

as if sneasler wasn't nightmare fuel already

[cyan smelt]

sneasler is funni rng poke

[drowsy comet]

What mon should I add? I’m just tryna fill the last spot and I’m stuck between amoongus and chien pao.

Tornadus, moraidon, Gholdengo, incineroar, rock ogerpon.

[cyan smelt]

iron hands

[drowsy comet]

Aight ty

[foggy lodge]

Hands cool

[cyan smelt]

hands is a big problem for my team bc of low kick

[next stump]

low kick hands was such a nice tech

[drowsy comet]

Ah ok yeah is kinda annoying, but trick room setup mons that are also psychics like Indeedee, farigiraf and stuff like that. I have some trouble against them.

[next stump]

it did like 60% to my kyogre at worlds i think

[drowsy comet]

They are annoying

[next stump]

first time I saw the move

[lofty tartan]

Heavy whale

776lbs - he's a porker

[cyan smelt]

what tera should zamazenta be

[drowsy comet]

Like I was thinking chien pao or brute bonnet but idk

Hands sounds good tho

[rustic mountain]

reg g

[lofty tartan]

https://pokepast.es/5e7331e03289519b

Here Tree

[molten oasis]

Ewww wtf

[rocky hinge]

Why

Why you had to show us that

[rustic mountain]

my squad making stuggart finals 🥹 (same 6 not same exact teras and def not same evs)

[rustic mountain]

this is the team ur gna use?

[lofty tartan]

I'm thinking about it. Improves sun matchup by miles

[rustic mountain]

i hate the indeedee set but overall seems solid, better question is how it feels to play

[lofty tartan]

It made top 32 at Stuttgart. I'm still considering the indeedeee set. I don't mind specs because it stretches EForce calcs pretty hard.

Modest Mindeedee still outspeeds jolly Dnite by two points

[rustic mountain]

its more the tr onnit ig trick is fine

[lofty tartan]

Yeah it's definitely a set. I guess when you really need to click TR to reverse but I dunno. Specs does a lot of good for EForce but I guess it does make things a little wonky.

Just no space for sash on sand xD

Honestly part of me thinks thst with specs and no sash you maybe want a defensive Tera more

[rustic mountain]

eh i get leaning into the offensive aspect w/ specs

[lofty tartan]

My roommate played it some today. I was taking care of my kid while my wife was under the weather, and then I slept lmao. Today is my Friday shift. Overnights are a drag.

[rustic mountain]

i doubt it gets clicked at all haha

[lofty tartan]

But I've been bulking up on hours at work because Toronto trip

[rustic mountain]

yea just make sure u get time to practice

[lofty tartan]

Yeah I'm not sure if it does. Trick maybe because setup mons and TR on the opp side.

Yeah I have three days off after tonight.

[rustic mountain]

i could see trick occasionally, tr just seems like creating a mind game

[lofty tartan]

That's fair.

[rustic mountain]

idk if its the best route to go but they did well so

[lofty tartan]

He was like 26th or something. I wish he had gotten on stream.

Day one he was 7-1

[chrome knot]

i hope it has a lot of showing in toronto

team i plan on bringing punishes a glaring weakness it has

[rustic mountain]

haha i mean im sure itll have some presence i dont think itll be too much especially after not winning and the format being as wide open as it is

[chrome knot]

rain is rain!!

[ivory girder]

How does Stellar Tera Blast and/or Tera Starstorm work with Tera Electric Shedinja?

With air balloon

[next stump]

that pokemon isnt in the game

[foggy lodge]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2254946439-c1l5v1f8vvmpst0j0wm95hzjtvgoq87pw stressful ngl

Had to read some protects and turns

[cyan smelt]

i'm a bit rusty with my team but i'm getting back into it

what's going on, my team was good in reg g part 1 but i'm losing a lot, is it because i'm rusty

I think I should replace scarf on urshifu for mystic water because I'm getting faked out a lot

[lofty tartan]

For nat Dex purposes, assuming the Shedinja is now terastallized, it would get ohko'd by stellar Tera blast. Tera Starstorm would also ohko if Terapagos is terastallized. Wonder Guard only resists stellar if Shedinja is not terastallized.

[molten oasis]

Yall got some kyogre teams I can try?

[foggy lodge]

I have Kyogre Basculegion

😊

https://pokepast.es/f2bdb21f1f7160e7

Top 32 at worlds

[molten oasis]

Basc and shifu, interesting

[lofty tartan]

Did you watch more dbz?

[molten oasis]

Ginyu went down

uhm, i think i had to stop cuz my internet was buggin

[lofty tartan]

Like you're passed Ginyu entirely?

[molten oasis]

hes a frog so i'd assume yes

[lofty tartan]

Y... Yeeeeess........

[molten oasis]

imma take that as a no

[lofty tartan]

Yeah body swap is a busted ability

There's like a small blurb with the frog but it's not huge

[molten oasis]

ic

and yea that ability is so dumb lol

[lofty tartan]

Basically ginyu doesn't wanna be a frog so he's gonna try to get out of it

[molten oasis]

i wouldn't wanna be a frog thats ass

[lofty tartan]

He's now the most powerful frog in existence though

[bold geode]

Ribbit

[molten oasis]

i think last i was watching they we're resting and Vegeta was "sick"

[lofty tartan]

Vegeta did give ginyu and Jace the bearing of their lives though

[molten oasis]

indeed

[lofty tartan]

Now the Frieza arc is gonna get insane

[molten oasis]

i bet

[bold geode]

Ngl that female frog was thicc though

[tiny karma]

Ability: Neutralizing Gas

While this Pokemon is active, Abilities have no effect. This Ability activates before hazards and other Abilities take effect. Does not affect the As One, Battle Bond, Comatose, Disguise, Gulp Missile, Ice Face, Multitype, Neutralizing Gas, Power Construct, RKS System, Schooling, Shields Down, Stance Change, Tera Shift, Zen Mode, or Zero to Hero Abilities.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[lofty tartan]

You're pretty much through all of the slow/low points. Now it's all highs

Frieza about to get hands dirty

[molten oasis]

my ladder experience

sash tera ghost encore calyrex, i hate it here

[foggy lodge]

wuejakskdkd

[cyan smelt]

Wasn't that a thing in late reg g v1

[molten oasis]

idk

but regardless

This team’s doing okay

It’s day 1 so my hopes aren’t up at all but like, it’s doing solid (I’m testingcorner)

[hard dew]

does your screen have oled burn in

[molten oasis]

i took a picture on my phone

[knotty mirage]

Just lost too tera dragon scale shot basculegion uh can't wait when we go back to reg G

[plain drum]

Outsider here and I'm curious, why are they "going back" a reg and has this happened before

[cyan smelt]

What's your team

[molten oasis]

idk thats what they decided

[knotty mirage]

No it never happened before prolly want to save the double restricted for next word championship

[plain drum]

Wild

[knotty mirage]

I mean hell one restricted only is like new rule set on this gen specificaly

In older gen we straight up go too double restricted format

[dull ibex]

Does going double restricted then mythicals then double restricted count

I think that's how swsh did the final two regs

[dull ibex]

It's not new

I'm 99% sure swsh had one restricted

[knotty mirage]

I don't remember swsh having that

[dull ibex]

Yes it did series 11

[knotty mirage]

Lemme check

[dull ibex]

I already did

[knotty mirage]

Ah yeah they do actually

[dull ibex]

Also yeah double transitioned into mythicals then back into double restricted

Iirc

So it's not a new concept going to a different reg to return back

[knotty mirage]

Is the mythical format also include restricted or only mythical is allowed ?

[dull ibex]

Im not sure

[torn parrot]

byyyyyyyyyyyy

byaaaaaa

[dull ibex]

It was no restrictions

You could have full legendaries and mythicals

Wack format btw

[knotty mirage]

Wait so you can use everything in that format and then next reg they go back to only allow 2 restricted

[dull ibex]

Ye

[knotty mirage]

Damn that something

[dull ibex]

Then two restricteds lasted the rest of the games life

[molten oasis]

was that an officially played format?

the no restrictions?

[knotty mirage]

Yeah it was

[dull ibex]

It was on ladder

[molten oasis]

no regionals?

[dull ibex]

It wasn't in tournaments

[knotty mirage]

I remember seeing wolfey trying to reach number 1 on ladder with magearna

[molten oasis]

gotcha

[dull ibex]

Swsh was dead by the time that came around

[knotty mirage]

So it could be the same case for SV that reg will only happen when the game is on the last breath

[dull ibex]

Or dying

I'm not sure what sv will do

[molten oasis]

Idk

[dull ibex]

I do wanna say I don't think this transition reg of one restricted is needed

[molten oasis]

I think it’s extending the formats for long enough that’s tricky

Cuz they got like, 2 years I think

[knotty mirage]

Really hope it will happen tho so i can give my mythical mon master rank ribbon

[dull ibex]

Ok but why extend it

You are going to use this format for the rest of the game anyways

It should have been the format for world imo

[molten oasis]

roar gouging is smth i wasn't expecting

[shadow wind]

Roar gouging is suprisingly helpful

Really helps against TR

[torn parrot]

We do what we gotta

Against that fuck

[cyan smelt]

why is reg g super hard now

[shadow wind]

Because 99% of the population is using brain dead Calyrex teams

[knotty mirage]

I guess people that want to win just now what they need to use now

[craggy dagger]

lunala

also im seeing a lot less miraidon players which is weird

[shadow wind]

It's because they don't want to teambuild

Miraidon teams are easy to counter if you have the right tools which a lot of teams do right now

[knotty mirage]

I mean in reg G you do need restricted that can carry your whole team which is what calyrex can do

[shadow wind]

Although you see the occasional

And it's like only this team

Because people hate teambuilding

[atomic portal]

that team is ez stomperino

[lofty tartan]

Lol this isn't gonna change as reg G 2: the revengening plays out. It is exactly like last time.

LOTS of CSR. Regional wins are irrelevant when it comes to ladder play

You've got insanely high base stat totals, extremely focused primary stats, two abilities and strong offensive/defensive typing

[shadow wind]

Tell that to my Groudon bro

[craggy dagger]

too many ice rider imo
less shadow rider from what ive seen

[lofty tartan]

Like you're not gonna see much in the terms of "originality" because creativity doesn't win games and there's no reason to not use the absurdly broken things lmao

[knotty mirage]

Regional is played by more higher skill player so it makes sense to have more vareity

[lofty tartan]

Small sample size.

[craggy dagger]

true

[knotty mirage]

But ladder why bother using miraidon and terpagos if you can't even use it properly

[lofty tartan]

Like if people didn't expect this and thought reg G was gonna be different, I dunno what to tell you xD

[craggy dagger]

but lunala
-# /j i know lunala gets outclassed HARD

im just coping

[lofty tartan]

Yeah I tried Lunala in Reg G the first time. Fun but loses steam too fast

[knotty mirage]

People on ladder of course prefer to use more braindead option

[lofty tartan]

I feel you.

[molten oasis]

how do you think i feel

[lofty tartan]

People at regionals do the same thing. What are you on

[craggy dagger]

at least you dont share a typing with one of the most broken mons in existence

[molten oasis]

fair enough

[lofty tartan]

And I think "brain dead" is super disingenuous

[molten oasis]

braindead easy to pilot

[craggy dagger]

not even that
press two buttons win the game

[shadow wind]

Yeah that's my bad, I'm just salty

[knotty mirage]

I didn't see alot of win from calyrex at least didn't most regional win filled with zamazenta and miraidon ?

[craggy dagger]

though shadow rider's 4x dark sucks

[shadow wind]

Obviously every team takes skills

[lofty tartan]

Y'all are acting like there isn't an opponent that makes actual thinking decisions besides yourself in the game

[cyan smelt]

i'm already sick of this reg

[molten oasis]

its been out for a day damn

not even a full day

[lofty tartan]

Winning at regionals =/= choosing what to play at regionals.

You're considering maybe top 8 of tournaments nearing 1k participants.

Playing things that are easy to pilot makes sense

Regionals is high skill

Why add duress to your turns?

[knotty mirage]

Fair enough i mean i ussualy do that anyway when i got too many lost with zacian i just rage switch to my braindead caly ice team

[molten oasis]

zacian's hard to pilot

it's a mon that requires more work than normal to win with

[knotty mirage]

Yeah caly is just an easier option

[lofty tartan]

Like people have said psyspam is brain dead for awhile and you're literally fighting through an ocean of hate picks and Counters to get your gameplan going. It takes more skill to overcome checks implemented to not immediately eat dirt vs your strategy

And yeah Caly S and I are insane. They take kos circumstantially. Makes sense to gravitate around them in a game where taking kos and reducing hp is the core objective

[knotty mirage]

At least i see less calyrex on bss so that's a good thing

[lofty tartan]

I bet lol

Singles is a weird place.

[knotty mirage]

Single 3v3 calyrex doesn't get much benefit from it

[molten oasis]

not looking forward to caly's being back but i'd also rather fight them than sneasler, that or im just coping cuz reg h was rough

probably the latter

[lofty tartan]

I think you're just coping. One day back and it's all the same complaints as the first time reg G was here.

Took less than 24 hours

[knotty mirage]

I mean at least losing to calyrex can be expected losing to dire claw sometimes can fell like an ass pull

[molten oasis]

i've complained about the encore sash caly i fought but thats it

[lofty tartan]

Dire Claw helps remove player agency and nobody likes it. I understand that.

[molten oasis]

but the complaining will begin eventually

[lofty tartan]

You could play perfect and still bite a 3 turn sleep

[knotty mirage]

It's inevitable isn't it like that for every reg

[lofty tartan]

The worst regulation is the one we're currently in

Always

[molten oasis]

true

i am glad i have sword dog back

[lofty tartan]

I'll always just utilize the tools available to me and accept it.

[knotty mirage]

I guess i will try the shield dog want to know how i can do with this one

[lofty tartan]

I'm used to losing my favorite strategies over time due to legality rotations.

[craggy dagger]

zama feels quite good into the caly MUs

[lofty tartan]

And my favorite pokemon are "pokes that look cool"

So it's a really generalist pov

If it's good I'll use it

[molten oasis]

valid

[lofty tartan]

I totally jammed Caly-S and Caly-I. No regerts.

[cyan smelt]

i'm really struggling even though i was good last reg g

[knotty mirage]

Well at least in reg G i can finally use urshifu no more wrongly predicting protect

[lofty tartan]

I also jammed Lunala, Terapagos, Zacian, KyuremW, and Scarf Whale

Scarf whale best whale

Urshifu removes player agency too

[molten oasis]

you're not wrong

[lofty tartan]

He and Sneasler are pen pals

[knotty mirage]

At least with ursh it just pure damage no random sleep

[lofty tartan]

I don't mind Ursh. My theory is that for every busted poke my opponents get, I also get them

Yeah but literally removes the thing thst sets pace in vgc. Protect.

It makes your opponent look like they're playing bad, but they aren't, they just can't protect

[molten oasis]

i think the sneasler shifu argument is really up to preference

[lofty tartan]

The argument is that they're both busted but one clearly bullies the other

In a vacuum, Ursh stomps Sneasler every day of the week.

[knotty mirage]

I never really have problem with urshifu because i prefer to play brute force game where both player just try to kill each pokemon as fast as possible

No protect no status move just pure damage

[lofty tartan]

I mean yeah personal preference doesn't really mean anything when talking about a mon's usefulness in vgc. XD

[molten oasis]

not being able to protect infront of shifu also kinda sucks and breaks a key mechanic in vgc

but they designed it not me lol

its stupid but i'll abuse it

[lofty tartan]

It's a thing.

Eventually there will be something else ultra stupid xD

Urshifu always has to consider Flutter in Gen 9 though.

[molten oasis]

yea

i wonder how game freak will break the game more in the future

[knotty mirage]

Ability that set up trick room each switch in

[molten oasis]

i stg if that becomes a thing

[knotty mirage]

I mean hey if they want to break vgc further may as well

[molten oasis]

Weezing stonks

[cyan smelt]

Why is everyone I play against all of a sudden an 1800s elo player

[craggy dagger]

252 SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Tera Ice Miraidon Tera Blast (80 BP) vs. 252 HP / 132 SpD Assault Vest Rillaboom: 212-252 (102.4 - 121.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Tera Ice Miraidon Tera Blast (80 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Ogerpon-Hearthflame: 145-172 (92.9 - 110.2%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO

[molten oasis]

evil

[torn parrot]

uhm

hm

well

at least high reward low consequences

[lofty tartan]

I once saw a really good argument for why this will never happen.

[cyan smelt]

I thought my reg g team was good but Ig time to scrap another team because I suck at this game

[torn parrot]

they'll decide calyrex shadow needs moonblast and aura sphere

[dull ibex]

I kinda want to play the toadcruel weezing team Wolfe made

[knotty mirage]

I mean it def for the best for it too never happen but we don't know what decision gamefreak would make in the future

[torn parrot]

i would hate a format where that exists

you are required to have that pokemon on every team

straight up requirement

[knotty mirage]

We already got something like that anyway being mega ray the duo primal and gen 8 zacian

So something like setting up trick room switch in is not far away from realm of possibility

[torn parrot]

yeah i mean yeah

i woudlnt put it past agmefreak to makes some game breaking shit like that

a pokemon wher the only counter to it is literally itself

unles you wanna be torkoal erupted turn 1

[strange fjord]

TR as an ability is straight up instant speed control. strongest ability by far.

[torn parrot]

for sure

[knotty mirage]

Maybe they can makes it not overwhelming by making the mon who have the ability have really fast speed stat

[torn parrot]

0 effort speed control just like

yucky

[strange fjord]

Oh, this bulky Pokemon that is slow? bulky pokemon thats fast

oh wanna stop TR, to bad, its up Turn 0

[knotty mirage]

I mean if they give it too something like regeleki

[torn parrot]

tbh it wouldnt matters

its the partners that are scary

[strange fjord]

this ^^

then just EQ ursaluna to self KO for a free swap

[knotty mirage]

Something like that def gonna make neutralizing gas stock stonk tho

[strange fjord]

ability shield stonks too

[torn parrot]

😭

they just give it ability shield and its unstaopable

[knotty mirage]

Makes it need to hold item to get the ability

Simple fix just like zacian and zamazenta who need to hold an item to be usable

[strange fjord]

point being that ability itself needs huge nerfs to even work

bc it's just that good

[torn parrot]

it would take a creative ass mind to imagine the ludicrous wacky format that pokemon would create

[knotty mirage]

I could see it implemented to mega evolved pokemon at least

[strange fjord]

it would still make it nearly unblockable TR set up. Not even Prankster imprison would stop that. ONLY neutralizing gas

very unhealthy meta

[torn parrot]

weezing would probably be top 10

[strange fjord]

you either running it or running weezing

[torn parrot]

yep

[strange fjord]

fast spore amoongus, fast Eruption Torkoal. nothing but pain

[torn parrot]

im sl;eepy

[knotty mirage]

Well i guess the best thing we could do is just hoping they don't implemented something like that in future but who knows

[lofty tartan]

It's far worse than removing weather or setting weather.

It's not just a "free effect on switch"

Trick Room is inherently too powerful for an ability move. It affects your opponent too much. Even tailwind on switch is better for the game than TR on switch.

They won't implement free trick room on switch.

Oh yeah because setting trick room puts you at a speed disadvantage to balance out how powerful it is. Giving it to a poke for switching reduces all downsides to trick room

[knotty mirage]

Hmm how about ability that set up gravity for each switch in then

[lofty tartan]

Gravity isn't very powerful.

And it's not like setting gravity is an overwhelming advantage against your opponent. It just makes your moves accurate

[knotty mirage]

We already got max move that can do it so i guess they will be more plausable

[knotty mirage]

And make ground type much more better

[lofty tartan]

Just because something was a max move doesn't mean anything

Max moves are a really poor comparison

They were absurdly powerful moves made for a format where your hp gets super inflated on a button 🤷

But yeah speculation like this isn't my forte so away I go whoosh

[knotty mirage]

Now that i think about it i wonder how broken it could be if they make the fifth ruinous legendary that drop speed stat

[mint void]

8f you give it to a middling speed mon like 60/ 70 spe and reduce the duration this TR lasts to 2 Turns. Its fairly ok. Still realllllly good but managable.

[lofty tartan]

You remove any ability for your opponent to answer an absurdly powerful form of speed control (more powerful than TW). You remove both player agency and any sort of answer to it. You now have a zero drawback speed control move that doesn't require you to click a button and is 1000x more powerful than -7 priority trick room.

It's not manageable. You remove any ability to answer it besides everyone running that one mon that sets TR for free on switch.

How do you manage it? Shadow Tag? Every answer that manages TR is useless against TR on switch.

Doesn't matter what the mon's speed is that has it - TR setters normally want to leave the field after doing the thing so your sweepers can win. Now you can just switch into a sweeper and have a pocket TR reset for late game.

Absurdly powerful. Game warping. Not happening.

[cyan smelt]

is tera ground calys something i need to watch out for

[molten oasis]

Yes

Why? Because the ladder is weird

[cyan smelt]

tera fairy seems very annoying

i forget about after you clefairy with caly s

i never thought i'd say this but i missed flutter mane

but not chi yu

[mint void]

Idk. Activateable once a game and due to only 2 turns managable with Fake Out and Protect. You shouls get an advantage from an ability. Make the mon that has it to fast to be good in TR and make it weak so it doesnt really do anything in it dmg wise but also bulky enough to not drop to a OHKO so u canr easily get a switch in with a broken TR mon.
Sure its gonna be atrong but you have one mon that wouldnt do anything but give 1 Pokemon on your side a speed advantage for 2 turns.

Also only would work against TW or fast teams. Opposing TR would just benefit more.

[molten oasis]

I missed chien pao

https://tenor.com/view/chien-pao-yippee-jump-happy-dance-gif-27595010

https://tenor.com/view/chien-pao-chien-pao-magik-gif-1726865703117322291

[cyan smelt]

i hate caly s

i hate both calys

[next stump]

https://tenor.com/view/buckle-up-wewe-weweonbase-gif-7724108521889880460

it’s gonna be a long 5 months for you

[cyan smelt]

i'm already over it tbh

[balmy glen]

Maybe year depending on next format lmao

[patent marsh]

double restricted prayge

[knotty mirage]

I wonder when they gonna makes a online tournament with good reward

[potent coyote]

There are online tournaments on limitless that award money for top finishes

[knotty mirage]

No i don't mean that kind of tournament it's the official tournament that have participant reward like only berry and ability patch

Really hoping for something like swsh tournament that reward the participant with shiny galarian bird

[next stump]

we’re approaching the end of SVs life cycle pretty soon so hopefully we get the shiny treasures of ruin

[knotty mirage]

Hopefully really want that blue fish

[cyan smelt]

ting lu is so bulky

well i beat that miraidon farigiraf team, nice

i've seen that armarouge dewgong team again lol

[balmy glen]

I just want Chien-poop

It will sweep at worlds

[cyan smelt]

great, 50.1% gxe, my team officially sucks

idk why i bother at this point

[balmy glen]

then adjust it

[cyan smelt]

i need to figure out what to fix then

[lofty tartan]

Yeah buddy. We've got 4 Global Challenges coming up

Perfect opportunity

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-bwoi-grin-chef-gif-18525191

[cyan smelt]

think i'm gonna cancel going to the regional because i suck at vgc

[plain drum]

From what you’ve said elsewhere it’s not that you suck but it’s that you’re tired and frustrated

[cyan smelt]

well my reg h teams sucked and now i have a 50.1% gxe with a team that i had 69.5% gxe with in reg g part 1

[plain drum]

Hm

[lofty tartan]

Just take a "good team" that someone else built, and play for awhile. It's not always "my team sucks" or "I suck" but there's a lot of getting burnt out and a lot of spiraling when getting concerned about your win-loss ratio, and that does not exemplify your skills as a player

Even the best players lose often.

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-pokemon-cali7-nodding-nod-gif-15699416

[cyan smelt]

i'll try that armarouge dewgong team then because at least it's fun

[lofty tartan]

That's also a sort of whacky team that may take a little bit of tight play to pilot

Take a consistent team

[plain drum]

But yeah that’s important: fun

[lofty tartan]

Raghav's Miraidon team? Solid. Straightforward.

Brian Hands

[plain drum]

Good luck