#competitive_discussion

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molten oasis
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Is*

cyan smelt
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speed control, option to manually change weather, bulk + wide guard zama, status, terrain control, and good synergy between chien pao, rilla, urshifu and zamazenta

foggy lodge
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A Big change i did not expect having to have match up into Magmar balance

cyan smelt
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synergy also between torn and urshi

rustic mountain
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something u gta do if u wanna be a good player

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plus magmar balance is dead now

foggy lodge
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yeh

rustic mountain
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unless ur mdb

foggy lodge
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Michael just comfort diffs

rustic mountain
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yea cuz hes cracked

foggy lodge
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I wonder if he will drop it at some point lol

rustic mountain
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prolly not he said he felt a ton of burnout trying to come up with different teams for every tour previously

solid frigate
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Aren't you one of the Reg H biggest Haters

molten oasis
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Bo1

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In this format, is awful

solid frigate
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ok fair bo1 Reg H fucking Sucks

molten oasis
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Bo3 is significantly better

rustic mountain
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i enjoy bo1 reg h shrug

molten oasis
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I don’t

foggy lodge
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Yeah makes sense

solid frigate
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i love how i said Bo1 Reg H sucks but I am using a Sylveon Team

foggy lodge
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Still like what would be his reason to drop Magmar balance

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The day it stops bringing him to top he will drop it i guess lol

molten oasis
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It’s very random at times, I didn’t really enjoy when the opponent had a very random move that ruined my mu into it

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Which ik happens

rustic mountain
molten oasis
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But it felt so much more common this reg than most

foggy lodge
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i do not like bo1 in general

rustic mountain
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u jus dont like having to cover for more things drago

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reg g was more condensed w/ wat to expect

molten oasis
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Yea that’s the bigger reason

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There’s a lot more to cover for this format

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Which I don’t really have time to sit and learn those mu’s through battle

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Like I play a few games a day but I don’t play more than like 10 at the highest, cuz work and family stuff

rustic mountain
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yea u def need the experience to better inform ur decision making

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whether outside the battle or in it

molten oasis
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Yea

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I wanna play more next format cuz it’s more condensed

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I felt like reg g was condensed enough

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Where it feels open but not super restricted

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This format feels too open

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To me at least

foggy lodge
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The usual important mons are more condensed

molten oasis
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I don’t feel like I could settle on a team like ever

foggy lodge
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You know what are the restricteds being used, what they do, their partners

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Like you know what Urshifu Rillaboom Inci Caly Shadow is going to do

molten oasis
runic eagle
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hey chat i saw this pic Wolfey posted. and i know a decent amount about competitive but. can someone explain the vivillons?

foggy lodge
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Sometimes some different picks there

molten oasis
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And the compositions are larger

foggy lodge
bold geode
foggy lodge
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Mainly sleep powder

rustic mountain
cyan smelt
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nice, wolfey used the dirge

runic eagle
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oh interesting, that makes sense, i’ve just never seen Vivillon used. always just spore amoongus

cyan smelt
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wait he used an all starter team

rustic mountain
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lol

foggy lodge
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it is 100% possible to have more knowledge about the teams in this format and your gameplans into it

rustic mountain
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tweeted he was gna do terribly and wins the whole thing, classic

foggy lodge
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but im lazy to study them haha lol

cyan smelt
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he was probably making his opponents complacent

molten oasis
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And I wanted to play some longer games throughout the format

rustic mountain
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u cant be complacent vs wolfey ever

bold geode
rustic mountain
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oh that was jus swiss record

molten oasis
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I played RDR2 and currently playing Metaphor

bold geode
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Ye

foggy lodge
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While this format is open i don't think it is excessively open to say "oh how could i have known that i needed match up into this"

molten oasis
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I also played MHR which takes a lot of time

rustic mountain
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gotcha, still top 8 w/ that garbage?

bold geode
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Yeah 5th to be more exact

molten oasis
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I didn’t make the time

rustic mountain
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theres like 5 players maybe including wolfey that could do that

molten oasis
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I could have, but I didn’t which is on me

rustic mountain
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yea i was jus curious tbh but yea its obv ur call

molten oasis
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I also need to just fix myself tbf

bold geode
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Ain't no fixing me

molten oasis
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Beginning of the format I legit couldn’t hold onto my composure

cyan smelt
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imma use vivillon because it's speed control and status all in one

foggy lodge
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Yeh its cool

cyan smelt
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and accurate hurricanes is nice

foggy lodge
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Wolfey didn't play sacramento to stay in his house and play a full starters team

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Truly the goat

molten oasis
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Real

craggy dagger
rigid robin
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Guys I have an impossible request for y'all.

chrome knot
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aight primarina is back on the menu

molten oasis
chrome knot
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just fills a role I need

bold geode
bold geode
molten oasis
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Sneasler

bold geode
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turns you into a plushie

shadow wind
torn parrot
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bandle city is gonna be the next arcane

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surely

spiral ridge
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Huh?

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What are they doing with bandle city

torn parrot
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nah just me hoping they do

spiral ridge
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Yordles Madrowlet

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I’m good

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Plus Ngl it would be like a weird children’s show with random dark ass aspects due to their lore

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Lulu SadMimi

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Scary ass

torn parrot
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i want a weird children's show with random dark aspects

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give me the yordles

spiral ridge
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I don’t think vex chills in bandle city

spiral ridge
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If you want more like areas do you play legends of runeterra?

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It has plenty of lore and characters

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You can prob find channels that explore all the new shit they add

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They made kindred have so much cooler shit behind her

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And yuumi book owner is a whole ass character

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Who I’m pretty sure is a yordle

torn parrot
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they're gonna make more arcane-like shows

spiral ridge
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But if I want a specific area to get a show it would probably be demacia noxus or ionia

torn parrot
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but in other areas

torn parrot
spiral ridge
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Noxus is a melting pot that values strength over race so they can appear there

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In LOr we see someone same race as neeko there :) only other of her kind probably

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Neeko is too busy dating nidalee to be in noxus

chrome knot
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@spiral ridge explodes your liver

spiral ridge
mighty stump
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Its reasonable to assume its likely we’re getting the Ionian-Noxian war

spiral ridge
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I’m so fucking good at this

spiral ridge
mighty stump
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Confirmed by Arcane co-creator

spiral ridge
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Oh already confirmed gotcha

mighty stump
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Cause we just got Singed-Orianna

spiral ridge
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Stop

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I haven’t seen season two fully

mighty stump
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woop

spiral ridge
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😭

mighty stump
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We did NOT get Singed-Orianna

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I lied

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Actually we got Garen and Darius erotica

spiral ridge
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I KNOW WE GET SINGED HES SEASON ONE 😭

mighty stump
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No you dont

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Uh

spiral ridge
mighty stump
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We also uh

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Vi is NOT there

spiral ridge
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What about mordekaiser is he there he’s my favorite?

mighty stump
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Hextech isn’t real!!!

mighty stump
spiral ridge
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OMG WHAT IF THEY DID A SHOW ON BIRTH OF NOXUS AND THE SHADOW ISLES ABOUT MORDE THAG WOULD BE SO COOL

mighty stump
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And then they all shout “here comes the League of Legends” and legends all over

spiral ridge
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I love mordekaisers lore so fucking much

mighty stump
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I love that he’s from Brazil

spiral ridge
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A show on him would be some GOT shit

mighty stump
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Well there is more emphasis on Noxus definitely

spiral ridge
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He won’t be there

mighty stump
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It is likely we start seeing the greater daemons

spiral ridge
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Can’t make sense time frame wise

mighty stump
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Or whatever it was called

mighty stump
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Arcane lore is retconning classic lore

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So like

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Throw everything out tbh

spiral ridge
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Not nearly same extent but if they do it would be shocking

plain drum
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Can we throw out Scotty

mighty stump
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Cause we dont know where certain characters are cuz of the ending

spiral ridge
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Morde would just take everything over and shit

mighty stump
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Which can’t fit in timeline wise

spiral ridge
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He’s too strong and smart

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He maximized the potential of him being back stabbed like who tf does that

mighty stump
spiral ridge
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God I love playing mord

mighty stump
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dash dash dash flash QSS

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☠️

spiral ridge
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E

mighty stump
molten oasis
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What y’all talking about

mighty stump
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😎

plain drum
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Leeg

spiral ridge
mighty stump
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EXHAUST QSS FLASH DASH DASH

spiral ridge
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And my own flash

spiral ridge
molten oasis
mighty stump
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hahaha

spiral ridge
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Like I already can’t move bro

mighty stump
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Anyways go finish Arcane

plain drum
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Scotty finishing something?

mighty stump
spiral ridge
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I know i only seen ep 1 so far it was so fucking good

mighty stump
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I cried during Act 2

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Like

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Bawling

molten oasis
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back to refantazio PeepoLeave

spiral ridge
gentle cragBOT
plain drum
spiral ridge
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I was hoping jhin might appear cus I saw a photo of a very similar looking mask

craggy dagger
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wah?

spiral ridge
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And jhin story wise is one of my fucking favorites

craggy dagger
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oh arcane and who should have been in it

plain drum
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Scotty we’ll get you on the Twitch homepage bro promise

mighty stump
mighty stump
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Esp since he’s Ionian

spiral ridge
plain drum
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Time travel Scotty back to like 2013-14 so he can crash the servers with LoL and StarCraft 2

spiral ridge
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Gotcha

spiral ridge
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I know he travels a ton so I always forget

spiral ridge
plain drum
mighty stump
spiral ridge
bold geode
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Hello Mr Tofu

plain drum
spiral ridge
molten oasis
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so like, why get a Netflix subscription to watch arcane? Is it worth?

plain drum
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You’re going to make us loads of money

mighty stump
spiral ridge
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Ah looking up yeah first images of it few years ago. Nvm :)

bold geode
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Bro can't do math

spiral ridge
mighty stump
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Oh btw the crying in Act 2 uhm

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That depends

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It might hit really hard

molten oasis
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hmm

mighty stump
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But its defo emotional

plain drum
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And when Scotty gets famous and rich we all get free rides to Worlds

spiral ridge
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Nope

molten oasis
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Is there anything else worth watching on Netflix

spiral ridge
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I’m a gold peak shitter in league :)

plain drum
bold geode
mighty stump
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If you have found family emotional attachments you mihht cry HAHA

bold geode
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Wrong reply

molten oasis
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Watched that

mighty stump
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Edgerunners and Arcane are worth as fuck for Netflix

bold geode
mighty stump
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10/10 both of them

molten oasis
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Yea I’ve seen edgerunners

spiral ridge
molten oasis
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Didn’t get me crying but def emotional

spiral ridge
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I would just stream my wheel if anything

bold geode
mighty stump
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I also cried

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Oh

molten oasis
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Tbf nothing has made me cry

mighty stump
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86

plain drum
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Scotty doesn’t want to make us any money, Monke you’re up

mighty stump
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86 made me cry the hsrdwst of any show ever

molten oasis
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One piece ALMOST did once

bold geode
mighty stump
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86 most underrated war-sci-fi anime

molten oasis
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Uhm, ig the new stranger things happens next year

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Heard umbrella academy ended poorly tho

mighty stump
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I fell askeep watchjng Stranger Things

bold geode
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Tofu I want this nousepad

molten oasis
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Season 4 was eh

mighty stump
molten oasis
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Fr

mighty stump
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Oh I watch medical shows so like

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House MD

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The Resident

molten oasis
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YEAAA

mighty stump
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Easy watches

bold geode
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I just saw an image of it, I have no idea where it is from

molten oasis
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friends watching House rn, and I’ve seen clips I would watch it

bold geode
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Or if I can even buy it

mighty stump
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It kinda falls off later in the seasons but yea

molten oasis
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Didn’t know it was on Netflix

bold geode
molten oasis
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Uhm, maybe I’ll get it for a month

mighty stump
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Watch Arcane first

molten oasis
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That’s enough for 86/Arcane

mighty stump
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You don’t need to care abt league to like it

spiral ridge
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I liked the just mystery but also resolution of it

molten oasis
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Well, I did think about not watching cuz of its connections but it doesn’t seem related to the game, that was also a while ago and kind of a joke lol

mighty stump
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So far my 10/10s are Arcane, CPER, 86

plain drum
spiral ridge
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The ending is fine the show didn’t need more

molten oasis
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For what?

spiral ridge
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Like sure 11 missing but like

molten oasis
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Nvm got it

dull ibex
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tofu vc?

spiral ridge
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That works cus she appeared randomly we don’t need to know where she went

plain drum
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Did you miss the Domino’s ads

Now you can order pizza with your mind

molten oasis
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Stranger things should have ended season 4

spiral ridge
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Let the mystery girl who they didn’t understand how she worked go mysteriously and they don’t understand that’s how this shit fucking WORKS

molten oasis
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It’s getting dragged out now

mighty stump
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YEAAAAAAAA

spiral ridge
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It’s not over??

molten oasis
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Honestly it GOT dragged out

plain drum
molten oasis
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Yes they baited us it was cringe

spiral ridge
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Gross

molten oasis
dull ibex
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dont leave me alone with monke 😭

molten oasis
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Nah

dull ibex
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@bold geode @bold geode @bold geode

molten oasis
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Suffer with Monke

plain drum
dull ibex
spiral ridge
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He doesn’t bite I think

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He’s just weird :)

mighty stump
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wenis

dull ibex
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HE TRIES TO BITE

bold geode
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I do

mighty stump
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thats gay

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just like me

dull ibex
bold geode
molten oasis
spiral ridge
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monkey growl at red to weird him out that sounds funny af

dull ibex
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WAS THAT THE BITE OF 87?!?!?!

bold geode
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Tofu you're just jealous I didn't bite you

spiral ridge
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Now that’s gay

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Like him!

mighty stump
spiral ridge
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😭

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I’m fucking dying

spiral ridge
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Omg I’m on a call and can’t laugh loudly at that this hurts

dull ibex
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tofu join vc or nah?

mighty stump
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im omw to my next tattoos

dull ibex
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"tofu I want your yumyum sauce" monke

spiral ridge
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:3

molten oasis
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I’ll also join ig

mighty stump
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lmao

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where is yhe vc

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ill join for like a fww min

spiral ridge
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BRO EVERY LRAGUE MEME ID AN ARCANE SPOILER RN

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like dawg you coulda used a normal picture of Caitlyn 😭

plain drum
spiral ridge
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Arcane wasn’t needed for that

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I’m gonna watch more tomorrow

cyan smelt
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i want to run an anti-weather team, is it a good idea

spiral ridge
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What just a mon like a9 or ttar to stop others weather?

torn parrot
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Weezing or altaria yeeeahhhhh!

cyan smelt
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thinking golduck

spiral ridge
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Oh cloud nine gotcha

cyan smelt
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yep

spiral ridge
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Nova tested altaria for a while

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That’s all I know for cloud nine users 😭

torn parrot
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Or golduck

tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 55: Golduck
Type

Water

Abilities

Damp, Cloud Nine, Swift Swim (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/82/78/95/80/85

Total

500

cyan smelt
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the thing i'm worried about with altaria is a) slower than arch, and b) weak to draco meteor

spiral ridge
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Isn’t awful stats actually

torn parrot
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With golduck you can at least wall them

cyan smelt
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i don't want to have to burn a tera on something

spiral ridge
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Fair

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I mean

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If it’s your answer for a weather comp

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Giving it a tera to help that Mu more can’t hurt that much

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Cus dragon means you resist fire water and then fairy for dragon

cyan smelt
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yeah but slower than arch still

spiral ridge
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Only thing left is electric as you’d be neutral

spiral ridge
cyan smelt
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really want to try vivillon

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i like sleep powder plus accurate hurricanes

spiral ridge
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Vivi is funn

craggy dagger
spiral ridge
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I used it on a chomp team for a while

spiral ridge
cyan smelt
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vivi chomp is a classic duo

craggy dagger
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you called?

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oh

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c9 altaria is meh
and def not good into this meta

spiral ridge
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I need to play more I haven’t

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And anytime I do I realize how shit I’ve become and don’t feel the energy to try and get better again

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😭

bold geode
spiral ridge
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God I hate the fact I actually miss our calls they were rage inducing but funny

cyan smelt
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god i want to try golduck now

spiral ridge
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Me with 3 seconds left: SO WHAT OF THE FIVE CHOICES YOU SAID SHOULD I DO

cyan smelt
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so golduck, viv, gambit ig

bold geode
spiral ridge
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You’re calling me slow sometimes you don’t even think of a play within the timer

bold geode
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Nuh Uh

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I think of 3 plays and don't choose kekhands

cyan smelt
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monke thinks of a meme within the timer

plain drum
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Monke climbs the ladder because his opponents get tired of him and leave

balmy glen
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Alr do I go to Toronto or do I cancel and mentally prep for reg g hmmm

bold geode
spiral ridge
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Yknow this convo reminded me that maybe I don’t miss it that much GardeSip

plain drum
bold geode
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Nuh Uh you miss it so much Scotty

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(I have another Ray team bestie)

spiral ridge
spiral ridge
bold geode
spiral ridge
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Just show me paste

craggy dagger
spiral ridge
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Yup

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They were chill nights

bold geode
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Scotty you've seen the team in that other server lmao

spiral ridge
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Somewhat chill

spiral ridge
bold geode
spiral ridge
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Somewhat chill

bold geode
spiral ridge
spiral ridge
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God that rayquaza truly was the worst of them all though it made me hate e speed isers

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I still sorta do

solid frigate
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lol

spiral ridge
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I don’t think we won once

potent coyote
solid frigate
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best of both worlds

balmy glen
mighty stump
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more tats @spiral ridge

spiral ridge
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Ooo

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What are they?

gentle badger
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anyone know any good Sun doubles team sets?

spiral ridge
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Gdansk had a charizard team I believe

gentle badger
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I want one where I can easily replace one of the members with a Venu.

spiral ridge
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Yeah charizard jumpluff and some others

spiral ridge
potent coyote
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I don’t even remember how I got here

gentle badger
cyan smelt
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how's this sound, golduck, viv, rilla, skeledirge, kingambit and electabuzz

spiral ridge
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What moves you running and what not

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Any idea?

cyan smelt
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haze, knock off, soak and protect

spiral ridge
cyan smelt
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i've seen it in some decently high ranked games

spiral ridge
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Hell yeah

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Maybe if not them incin or volca

cyan smelt
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was thinking torch song throat spray to put the hurt in

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i like skeledirge because it's immune to body press

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my only concern is tr teams

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maybe i should make rilla slower than indeedee

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ok now i've seen it all, tr bronzong with rock blast into mudsdale

molten oasis
dull ibex
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HA

gentle badger
spiral ridge
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Speedy special attacker okay

cyan smelt
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christ, psych up bronzong next to stamina iron def mudsdale and body press on both

shadow wind
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I got that dog in me

spiral ridge
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You could realistically go specs like the card or life orb

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Zard

shadow wind
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This about Venusaur?

spiral ridge
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Yeah

shadow wind
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I would suggest lorb

spiral ridge
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You’ll need to do EVs yourself btw idk them so Goodluck

shadow wind
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Although specs can allow you to run both stabs, weather ball, and EP

cyan smelt
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i've learnt to never try wisping an annihilape

shadow wind
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Tera fire jumpscare

spiral ridge
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Why?

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I’ve been seeing lot of tera water lately

cyan smelt
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just from watching games, they're always tera fire

shadow wind
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Yeah me too actually

spiral ridge
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Really all I’ve seen as of late is water. Noted

shadow wind
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Fire is an extremely good tera on it

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Stops burn and resists fairy

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Although personally I use misty terrain to block will o wisps 🐊

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Why did they change how that emoji looks on Discord

cyan smelt
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misty terrain is pretty goated tech

shadow wind
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I was very impressed with myself for it

cyan smelt
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maybe i should replace will o wisp on skeledirge for earth power

shadow wind
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How often do you click will o wisp?

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Cause I feel like wisp is very very good

cyan smelt
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whenever i see gambit and sneasler

shadow wind
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Also why couldn't they make will o wisp like toxic

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Fire types can never miss

cyan smelt
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because it cripples physical attackers, it'd be too op if it never missed

shadow wind
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But alas, GameFreak hates us will o wispers

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Toxic can get outta hand

cyan smelt
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only if the game goes long enough

shadow wind
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But yeah, I could see the tera fire Sableyes from a mile away

cyan smelt
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sableye is super annoying

shadow wind
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I agree

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I really like misty terrain tech

cyan smelt
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who'd have thought that frail little gremlin would be such good support

mighty stump
shadow wind
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And a secondary thing to misty terrain is that it blocks guts from activating

shadow wind
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Which I didn't even think about until I played a P2 Ursa team

molten oasis
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cool

cyan smelt
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klefki is also annoying

spiral ridge
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We know frail prankster users are great supports

shadow wind
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Grimmsnarl 😔

cyan smelt
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grimm has fallen off though

shadow wind
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I actually love Grimm

spiral ridge
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Misty terrain to stop guts is really hard to face

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Grimm is cool just other screensetters rn

shadow wind
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Yeah

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I'm a grimm believer but there are probably better options

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Although spirit break can be very helpful

cyan smelt
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klefki being immune to dire claw is nice

shadow wind
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I would rather an immunity to Psyspam

cyan smelt
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klefki resists

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and has prio misty terrain too

shadow wind
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Hmm

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Might need to consider

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Why does it have 57 HP 😭

cyan smelt
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def not bulky

shadow wind
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I have realized a flaw with Klefki over Grimmsnarl on my team

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I become uber weak to fire

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3 steel types, who woulda thunk it

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252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera Fire Typhlosion-Hisui Eruption (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 116+ SpD Grimmsnarl in Sun through Light Screen: 196-232 (97 - 114.8%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO

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At least bro has a chance to live it

cyan smelt
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there's always meowstic (lol)

shadow wind
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I would rather my Grimmsnarl over some cat

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Grimmsnarl has been with me since the beginning

cyan smelt
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all these prankster users get misty terrain

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except sableye

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is it just me or is power herb arch becoming more common

shadow wind
#

It's been common

#

Just wait till you see them tera electric

cyan smelt
#

uh oh

shadow wind
#

😵‍💫

#

My Tera flying Ttar didn’t love taking that electro shot

#

(He died and it probably did 200%)

cyan smelt
#

sadge

shadow wind
#

That same game it was an AV Blursa with vacuum wave

#

That deals with Excadrill pretty well unfortunately

cyan smelt
#

neat tech there

shadow wind
#

Annoying tech for me

cyan smelt
#

i mean av blursa is pretty common

shadow wind
#

I feel like I don’t see it that often

#

It’s almost always lorbs for me

#

Waiting for a lorb Archaludon team

cyan smelt
#

soon people will use wolfey's team on ladder

balmy glen
shadow wind
cyan smelt
#

all starter team

shadow wind
#

And all that means is one sided OTS

#

Oh weird

cyan smelt
#

iirc it's blaziken, skeledirge, incin, serperior and another two i can't remember

shadow wind
#

Weirdo team

cyan smelt
shadow wind
#

And vivillion got 2nd and 3rd

cyan smelt
#

idk which tournament this is, it's not sacramento

shadow wind
#

Hey I played against the guy that got 8th

#

Weird

cyan smelt
#

cool team, tr mode and rain mode

shadow wind
#

The 8th place team?

cyan smelt
#

yeah

shadow wind
#

Seems like 2 cores got smushed together

cyan smelt
#

ok i should prolly make my new team

shadow wind
#

In game or just in general?

cyan smelt
#

on showdown

shadow wind
#

If you need any help I’m available like 78% of the time

cyan smelt
#

probably need some help with evs

shadow wind
#

Valid

#

I struggle with evs sometimes

cyan smelt
#

maybe i should test a few games and see what i struggle against first

molten oasis
#

the wolfey starter team wasnt even 2 2 2 it was 1 2 3 lol

#

(2 water 2 fire 2 grass)

cyan smelt
#

wonder if it's difficult to pilot

shadow wind
#

Probably

molten oasis
#

most likely

shadow wind
#

Swamp is cool tech though

cyan smelt
#

nice to see some skeledirge love though

shadow wind
#

Allows the normally slow starters to have the upper hand

cyan smelt
#

is it an entire pledge team?

shadow wind
#

I would assume not

molten oasis
shadow wind
#

But usually when there’s Primarina and a grass starter it’s pledge

#

A fast grass starter *

cyan smelt
#

true

shadow wind
#

Maybe some coaching shenanigans with Blaziken, who knows

molten oasis
#

?

shadow wind
#

Talking about the all starter team

mint void
#

Just lost to someone who used no speed Basculegion (?) because he used no speed Basculegion

solid frigate
#

wait no speed Basc-

#

is it swift swim tho

shadow wind
#

No speed basc seems pointless

solid frigate
#

unless you run Swift Swim but like

Is he running TR Basc lmao

craggy dagger
#

no speed means more bulk

molten oasis
shadow wind
#

Seems strong, how’s it been working?

molten oasis
#

Pretty consistent

#

I think it’s very well rounded

shadow wind
#

Any MUs that seem impossible?

molten oasis
#

No

#

Maybe gambit at times but that’s it

#

But gambit feels more like I messed up bringing incin or smth

#

Amoonguss Bloodmoon usually does enough work

shadow wind
#

Then go for it, make it in game

cyan smelt
#

skeledirge and viv have good synergy

shadow wind
#

How so?

cyan smelt
#

dirge likes tw and opponents being put to sleep so he can set up

#

double status is also nice

shadow wind
#

Hex would go crazy

#

But I can understand why you wouldn’t want to use it

cyan smelt
#

no good against dark types

#

so many boosts in that game

shadow wind
#

Wait what’s your last move?

cyan smelt
#

slack off

#

shadow ball

shadow wind
#

My point is that shadow ball ain’t good against dark types either

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And if you’re sleeping people with Vivillion, why not use a 130 BP move?

cyan smelt
#

fair

#

i'll try

shadow wind
#

But do what you want, if shadow ball works keep it

#

I just like the idea of hex

#

In all fairness, hex is worse a lot of the time

#

But one of the few positives is that it can’t proc defiant accidentally on Ape

cyan smelt
#

true, i'll try it but like i said ape is usually tera fire but sleep powder hex sounds good

shadow wind
#

If it works. Great! If it doesn’t, kinda to be expected

cyan smelt
#

improves the synergy between viv and skele

#

didn't expect bullet seed though

#

it's crazy how much momentum skeledirge can stack in a short period of time

shadow wind
#

I love Skeledirge

cyan smelt
#

me too

#

should have gone for the ape because arch couldn't touch skeledirge

shadow wind
#

Yeah

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But it’s all good

#

You won anyway

#

But yeah looking at that game hex might’ve cooked

cyan smelt
#

fortunately had electabuzz in the back

shadow wind
#

Or I’m delusional, who knows

cyan smelt
#

only way to find out is to test

shadow wind
#

True !

cyan smelt
#

you're right about shadow ball though in that it could proc defiant

#

and hex might help ohko ape

shadow wind
#

I just know that I liked it when running Dirge + status

#

Although I ran Grimm Twave and Glimmora stuff

cyan smelt
#

well it makes sense with sleep powder and will o wisp

shadow wind
#

100%

cyan smelt
#

i could even go a 3rd move on skeledirge to deal with steel types and incin

#

earth power maybe

shadow wind
#

Does torch song not deal with steel types?

cyan smelt
#

true but doesn't deal with incin and they sometimes have goggles

shadow wind
#

True

#

But dirge almost always struggled with Incin

cyan smelt
#

but will o wisp is good into most other physical attackers

shadow wind
#

Yup

#

I just know that when I run Dirge I always need an Incin counter

cyan smelt
#

idk if gambit is enough

shadow wind
#

It got low kick?

cyan smelt
#

nope i just put sd and sucker punch on it, seems to work

shadow wind
#

And what about the duck?

#

Yeah that’s a good set

cyan smelt
#

atm it's there for weather teams

shadow wind
#

Low kick is Uber reserved for AV

shadow wind
#

Just to hit Incin with something

cyan smelt
#

i'm not 100% sold on golduck but ig it could hit ttar and excadrill as well

shadow wind
#

Yup

#

Unfortunately for me 😔

cyan smelt
#

and typhlosion because it negates sun

shadow wind
#

Yeah people are getting trickier with how they deal with Ttar + Drill

#

Not my favourite thing

cyan smelt
#

how so

shadow wind
#

Tera fly Magmar

cyan smelt
#

lol

shadow wind
#

Why did bro need that

cyan smelt
#

doesn't it die to rock slide anyway

shadow wind
#

Thank god I monkey brained it and rock slided

#

Doesn’t die but it takes a ton

cyan smelt
#

double rock slide

shadow wind
#

I don’t run rock slide on my drill

#

If I wanted to run double rock slide I would use Lycanroc

cyan smelt
#

i've seen someone use lycanroc dusk on ladder

shadow wind
#

That the no guard one?

cyan smelt
#

tough claws

shadow wind
#

Ah

#

That one is pretty cool

#

But Lycanroc is pretty bad when compared to Excadrill

cyan smelt
#

yeah

shadow wind
#

I absolutely love Excadrill

#

My straight up legend

cyan smelt
#

i love kingambit

shadow wind
#

Steel types are just sick

cyan smelt
#

after a swords dance he can ko most stuff

shadow wind
#

While I love a good steel type, gotta say that Ground is where I’m really at

cyan smelt
#

i think tw hyper offense is good for my team

shadow wind
#

Probably yeah

#

Hyper offense with Skeledirge is funny

cyan smelt
#

skeledirge and gambit can stack crazy boosts and rillaboom is just bulky

#

idk if 3 support and 3 attack is an ok ratio though

shadow wind
#

I say if it works it works

#

I usually like only having 1 support

#

But a lot of my mons have supporting moves I find

cyan smelt
#

not 100% convinced on golduck but perhaps i need to position it better

shadow wind
#

That’s how I felt with Gastrodon

#

Amazing rain counter and can destroy Primarina but I never focus the Rillaboom

#

Once I started doing that Gastrodon popped off

cyan smelt
#

then i should focus on threats to golduck

shadow wind
#

I always find games like this funny

cyan smelt
#

indeedee m and sneasler sounds very annoying

shadow wind
#

Honestly Ttar and Drill destroy it

cyan smelt
#

what about the corv

shadow wind
#

Corv is tough for my team

dull ibex
shadow wind
#

I usually end up playing crit chicken with my own Corv

#

Or final gambit scarf ape

#

That usually does it

cyan smelt
#

what other moves on ape, drain punch and bulk up?

shadow wind
#

Oh it’s scarf

cyan smelt
#

oh

shadow wind
#

Final gambit
Coaching
U turn
Close combat

cyan smelt
#

ofc bc final gambit

solid frigate
#

moment

cyan smelt
#

wondering if i should keep hhp on rilla or switch for u-turn

shadow wind
#

Love me some scarf final gambit

shadow wind
#

Also u turn into Ttar for drill sand rush does wonders against focus sash

#

I lowkey love my team

cyan smelt
#

sounds like good synergy

dull ibex
#

Clamulet sneasler should be a thing

cyan smelt
#

isn't white herb unburden already a thing

shadow wind
#

But unburden

#

It is

solid frigate
#

poison Touch Exists but eh

shadow wind
#

Compared to unburden, poison touch sucks

#

I feel like I haven’t seen a Sash Sneasler in a while

#

They all just run Psychic seed now

cyan smelt
#

Yep

shadow wind
#

It’s really annoying for me

solid frigate
#

i mean it would be very funny if i use Poison touch Sneasler Nightmare_Smile

cyan smelt
#

Do you have speed control on your team

shadow wind
#

Negative

#

I got sand rush and a choice scarf

#

Actually I have icy wind

#

But that’s it

dull ibex
shadow wind
#

My teams usually lack speed control

#

Usually I just slap screens on a team and make speed control not matter as much

cyan smelt
#

Can scarf ape outspeed unburden sneasler

shadow wind
#

No

#

Slower base speed and a weaker boost to speed

cyan smelt
#

Ofc

shadow wind
#

Nothing on my team can outspeed unburden sneasler

cyan smelt
#

I can see unburden sneasler being a problem for my team

shadow wind
#

Yeah me too

#

Indeedee M + Sneasler lead seems hard to crack for your team

cyan smelt
#

Only way I can think of answering Indeedee m sneasler is eweb

shadow wind
#

Hmm

#

Maybe that’s something that needs to change then

#

Cause that’s a pretty common lead

cyan smelt
#

Maybe I should replace golduck then or electabuzz

#

I could use geezing

shadow wind
#

Like the good ability?

cyan smelt
#

Neutralising gas

shadow wind
#

I would suggest not abbreviating it like that

#

Anyway

#

That’s the good one

cyan smelt
#

Oops mb didn't realise how that looked

shadow wind
#

Meh, it happens

#

But yeah, gas could be good to slow down Sneasler a bit

#

Unfortunately it is weak to both Indeedee and Sneasler

cyan smelt
#

No unburden and no psychic terrain

#

It's neutral into sneasler

shadow wind
#

Oh true

#

I for some reason forgot poison resists poison

#

Anyway, it’s 3 am and I need to be getting to sleep. Hope the team works out

cyan smelt
#

I'll try geezing gn

#

And if I see incin I can always switch out geezing to proc defiant boost

dull ibex
#

I need to find someone to help me with indeedee m

cyan smelt
#

What's the problem

dull ibex
#

Out of resources and no dlc so Im going to pay someone probably an ability patch to build mine

cyan smelt
#

Ohhhh you need it

dull ibex
#

Ye

#

I have the indeedee m

#

Just need leveling moves etc.

mighty stump
#

Bring Weezing w NGas is a bit of a poor answer

#

or Gholdengo

#

Throat Chop isn’t really that threatening

cyan smelt
#

But I have kingambit, is it ok to also add gholdengo?

solid frigate
#

double Steel is alr

Especially one of them is immune to fighting

lofty tartan
cyan smelt
#

I'll try gholdengo

lofty tartan
#

I should be flush with resources - I just got off work though so you'll need to give me a minute

#

Coming over to the Mindeedee camp after I've been singing his praises for over a month arkeknine

dull ibex
#

Dm me

neat kayak
#

Shift gear + Throat spray toxtricity go kinda hard Ngl

solid frigate
#

i forgot it learn that

cyan smelt
#

damn hex is powerful

next stump
#

i remember hex fluttermane a few regulations ago

cyan smelt
#

what was it paired with?

next stump
#

glimmora usually

cyan smelt
#

interesting

torn parrot
#

im addicted to these room tours

#

they're so fun

cyan smelt
#

damn i'm watching anger point primeape with tera fire and fire punch

#

the return of the bee

#

ribombee sure hits hard

polar canyon
#

Y'all ever make a team on showdown, decide to build it in game for ranked because it worked well but then never do it

#

I'm still due building the turbo weezing team

#

When I have time and there's not 100 exams to study for

torn parrot
#

iv made like a million teams in game

#

i dont use them in. game that much but

#

they're kinda just like trophies

polar canyon
#

That's fun

#

I mean is it

#

Was it fun to do

torn parrot
#

yep it is

cyan smelt
#

i love using gholdengo

#

most of my losses i think i just played bad

polar canyon
cyan smelt
#

more importantly he didn't know it would ko his own gholdengo

#

was expecting stomping tantrum honestly

polar canyon
#

I was watching the first one

cyan smelt
#

oh

#

it's always satisfying to beat a dozo team

#

also people keep clicking coaching in front of skeledirge

chrome knot
#

-8ball primarina for toronto?

gentle cragBOT
#

primarina for toronto?
:8ball: My reply is no

chrome knot
#

hmmmm

cyan smelt
#

I don't think I'll go to Perth, I can't find a consistent team

#

-8ball should I go to Perth

gentle cragBOT
#

should I go to Perth
:8ball: Outlook good

cyan smelt
#

Hmmm

chrome knot
cyan smelt
#

I can't make a good consistent team

#

So at this point idk what to use

chrome knot
#

i feel like each paste ive seen there’s something just

#

strange in it so idk

#

like i just opened the replay to see Vivillon Skeledirge like

#

no fucking wonder “I can’t make a good consistent team”

cyan smelt
#

Look I don't really understand this meta

#

I tried the kelsch team and lost a bunch of times with it

chrome knot
#

mdb team is outdated

#

hes winning bc he just player diffs everyone atp

cyan smelt
#

Then I'm right back to not knowing what to use, maybe I should try Indeedee m, unburden sneasler and basculegion

chrome knot
#

consider: research

cyan smelt
#

It's hard for me to think properly and take in information because this medication I'm on is really messing up my thinking capacity

chrome knot
#

consider also

#

make skeledirge volc, cut ghold for sneasler and add like primarina over vivi

cyan smelt
#

Speed control?

chrome knot
#

quiver dance & ewebs buzz

cyan smelt
#

Ok I'll try

#

And then I'll do some research

#

So I just check out like tournament teams and stuff?

chrome knot
#

understand what mons are used, develop lines into common teams, understand speed tiers & your calcs as calcs will be important for a setup sweeper team like volcarona

cyan smelt
#

Ok I'll try

gentle badger
patent marsh
#

you can probably hunt an ursaring and ask someone for help to evolve it into ursaluna

gentle badger
patent marsh
#

I would help but I left my switch with my friend so he can go join with my stuff poliwhirlkek

gentle badger
patent marsh
#

:dead: I mean it's worth a try

#

or you can try replacing other things

#

cause going primarily special attackers without a strong physical attacker is pretty risky

placid thorn
#

@patent marsh do you want it for a tr team?

patent marsh
#

wut

placid thorn
#

@gentle badger

#

Sorry mate i meant to ask the other guy

patent marsh
#

pyukuthumbsup all gud

placid thorn
#

I got an ursaluna but it's not 0 iv speed so let me know

gentle badger
#

k, what you want for it?

placid thorn
#

Nothing brp

#

It's calm

gentle badger
#

k

#

you ready?

placid thorn
#

Im at work at the minute

gentle badger
#

k.

placid thorn
#

Will give you a shout soon as i get on

gentle badger
#

k

real prairie
#

Sorry all needed a little time off, how is everyone?

timber falcon
#

im doing splendid

bleak spruce
#

Sacramento was a lot of fun even though I played like ass

#

I didn’t play against any arch teams. Or spore/sleep powder which would’ve made it a lot less fun

balmy glen
chrome knot
#

keanu

#

o you did run zard

#

i understando

bleak spruce
gentle badger
#

@spiral ridge YOU DID NOT ATTACH THE NEEDED STAT DISTRIBUTIONS I NEED FOR EACH POKEMON!!!!!

chrome knot
#

lmao

gentle badger
#

how am I supposed to know what stat spreads or natures I'm supposed to use?!?!

bold geode
#

Chill out bro

foggy lodge
#

calc

#

tip

#

Play Ursa with speed

#

The Ursa in those teams is made to be fast enough and outspeed things in tailwind while working under trick room

gentle badger
#

so, it's meant to be a lead?

foggy lodge
#

never said that lol

#

Just that is played with speed

#

enough speed to outspeed Sneasler

#

132 jolly in tailwind outspeeds jolly Sneasler

spiral ridge
#

This was just the second place team of a regional in Poland with a similar enough basis

#

They don’t show speed or nature as that is privy info that could change games

#

This you’ll need to figure out

#

There’s some websites that show what most people run

#

Munch stats I think it was?

solid frigate
#

omg i come back to see chaos

spiral ridge
#

I just tried helping 😭

solid frigate
#

yeah scotty i can tell-

spiral ridge
#

Ah well happens

solid frigate
#

tbf its not the first time seeing someone panicking

chrome knot
spiral ridge
#

Oh did it I didn’t watch final day

#

😭

#

I’ve been too busy to fully watch regionals lately I gotta catch up on a few

dusty robin
#

Heii I need a Professional Team builder whi can Check Out my self built team

#

Sry For my english xD try my best

balmy glen
dusty robin
#

German

#

Germany

vapid summit
#

hey question

#

this team any good?

balmy glen
dusty robin
#

What is vgc

foggy lodge
#

Official format, doubles 4v4

dusty robin
#

Yes 4v4

vapid summit
dull ibex
#

doubles ou

vapid summit
#

its a private tournament

dull ibex
#

atleast use a format that exists

vapid summit
#

ou singles

dull ibex
#

there you go

#

doubles ou is wacky btw

molten oasis
foggy lodge
next stump
#

what’s up people

foggy lodge
#

hi dillon

vapid summit
molten oasis
foggy lodge
#

+1 252+ SpA Tera Dragon Archaludon Draco Meteor vs. 244 HP / 84 SpD Eviolite Porygon2: 152-180 (79.5 - 94.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

#

omfg

vapid summit
dusty robin
#

Dragapult
Glimmora
Luxray
Umbreon
Garchomp
Ceruledge

#

This is my Team I hope the english names are right

#

I don't want to Switch it because they're my favourites and I don't want to Play Meta or hear like oh use this Pokemon because everybody does this because its strong

balmy glen
dusty robin
#

I want a strategie For them and don't know a way to shine

vapid summit
#

is fluttermane uber?

plain drum
#

Yeah

solid frigate
vapid summit
spiral ridge
#

Watching episode two rn and damn viktor

real prairie
#

looks like its for singles, does boots help Corv when its not grounded?

foggy lodge
#

It's still so weird to me not seeing any Rilla in the top 16

tiny karmaBOT
#
Pokémon No. 900: Kleavor
Types

Bug/Rock

Abilities

Swarm, Sheer Force, Sharpness (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

70/135/95/45/70/85

Total

500

real prairie
#

i really like this team 🤣

spiral ridge
#

god I love this show

mint void
#

S1? S2? which act

#

@dusty robindo you want all 6? or can like 1 or 2 be changed?

spiral ridge
#

Season two

shadow wind
#

Now this is epic

solid frigate
dusty robin
#

1 or 2 can be changed yes but pls don't put Luxray away..

shadow wind
#

Fighting someone even higher elo than you at the 1700s is just an amazing feeling

#

You get blessed

#

It's either +24 or +6 at this point 😔

real prairie
solid frigate
dusty robin
#

@mint void my Strategie is

Glimmora and Dragapult at first.
Glimmora put stones in the floor and Dragapult hit Glimmora with a Switch Attack so he can be switched into umbreon and the enemy have toxic spikes because of my attack

#

This is my own Strategie

#

And with Garchomp I switch the enemy out so they get dmg from the spikes over and over

#

But it don't work so Well..

real prairie
real prairie