competitive_discussion

[lusty carbon]

😭😭, did you wanna play?

[quartz silo]

I dont have SD sadly.

[lusty carbon]

Ahh it's all good lol, but thank you

[quartz silo]

Gl finding someone! Im rooting for ya!!

[solid frigate]

its a Website-

[quartz silo]

Im on mobile

I dont have a pc

[solid frigate]

it works kn mobile as well

[cyan smelt]

just lost to double poison jab muk and conkeldurr, wtf are these teams

[next stump]

low ladder madness

just always play OTS and you can know what’s coming

[cyan smelt]

but my team will suck in bo3, that's what i'm scared about

[next stump]

so you have a team reliant on gimmicks? how can you also complain about other teams then

[cyan smelt]

no it's not reliant on gimmicks

i just think snow is not super strong rn

[next stump]

if it’s a normal-ish team, it’ll perform the same in both formats

the only difference would be your skill level in the different styles but at least you won’t get frustrated at random moves

[night flax]

what team is better - (all final evo's with ev's ect just writing the first evo to be easier)
fuecoco - froakie - ralts - shroomish - magnemite - frigibax

fuecoco - mudkip - ralts - shroomish - wattrel - frigibax

[next stump]

single or double battles?

[solid frigate]

it feels very singles heavy team due to one,Greninja is mostly use as Support,and I don’t see a Mon Greninja can support

and 2 if its a doubles Team then this team feel a lot frail than should be

[cyan smelt]

my team isn't performing well and idk how to fix it

[solid frigate]

can you show me the team

[cyan smelt]

i'm ashamed of it, it sucks

[solid frigate]

You dont have to be ashamed on the team

you need to learn how to accept your setbacks

[cyan smelt]

https://pokepast.es/37ca539363742844

i'm not a good teambuilder so i should just use rentals

[solid frigate]

Tera Dark Gambit(For Offense)
Tera Ghost P2 (Fake Out immunity for Setting up TR)
Tera Steel Gliscor for more defensive Resistance

also Ghost Blast could let you hit ape

[cyan smelt]

i'm just worried because idt tr and snow go together

[solid frigate]

And No Protect on Skele is kinda concerning

[cyan smelt]

should i replace will o wisp with protect

[solid frigate]

its alright honestly but you really focused on Mostly TR

[cyan smelt]

maybe i should just go full tr and abandon ninetales, i was thinking about misty terrain grimm

[solid frigate]

you kinda lose momentum if P2 is gone

[solid frigate]

yeah honestly wisp is for Hex Sets in Skeledrige

[solid frigate]

hmmmmm ill think of something

[cyan smelt]

idt this team is good honestly

[solid frigate]

it can be reworked

just In Snow idk what pokemon benefit from Snow

in your team

[cyan smelt]

none really

but i like screens so maybe grimm or sableye is good

[solid frigate]

I’ll think of it

[cyan smelt]

i'm still ashamed of it, dillon's right, i shouldn't complain about other teams if my teambuilding is ass

[solid frigate]

its what you have to learn from Others and improve yourself by reflecting on your mistakes

[cyan smelt]

i need to watch my replays tomorrow

[solid frigate]

Personally,Your team can be reworked,Just that your knowledge needs a refresh

[cyan smelt]

should i go tera flying tera blast on gambit

[solid frigate]

personally go for Tera Dark for Offense or Tera Fairy for Defense

[cyan smelt]

i don't like either because sneasler can hurt either way

but tera dark seems good

[solid frigate]

brother its doubles you have other Pokémon that can deal with sneasler

[cyan smelt]

also ik i have a problem with rigid thinking which is hard for me to change

[solid frigate]

take the change slowly

[cyan smelt]

i have trouble thinking of good team ideas

[solid frigate]

not every ideas are have to be good ideas

I’m using Sylveon rn and its not a good idea for long run lmao

[cyan smelt]

i like sylveon

[solid frigate]

I think its just you have to think outside of the Box

[cyan smelt]

again, hard for me

[solid frigate]

which try to learn it,or look at rentals to see what can be inspiration on your team

[cyan smelt]

i'm gonna try and teach myself to do it

but idk where to start

[lofty tartan]

It's a lot easier to say "think outside the box" than it is to teach someone how to think outside of the box.

[mint void]

Just make a team play with it qnd look what and why you lose to it

[lofty tartan]

I mean that's the literal barest form of anything.

Start by figuring out why you're running the mons you're running - what does each of them check? Do they check anything at all? If they're not checks, what are they doing? What do they lose to? etc

Teambuilding overall, I think, is an advanced skill that comes naturally with understanding of the meta along with experience and game knowledge. It's not something you can just force.

I mean anyone can make any team, but not everyone can make a great team.

[cyan smelt]

this is why i'm hesitant to go to that regional because this stuff is hard for me and i'm not a good player

[lofty tartan]

You don't have to take something that's completely your team

An early teambuilding skill is just jamming together cores that work well with each other 🤷

[cyan smelt]

maybe i should just take the kelsch team

[lofty tartan]

It's pretty much the thing to beat.

[mint void]

@cyan smelt I started by just copying teams from YT that did good at tourneys.

Tty to learn and understand the teams and with time you just get to know why certain stuff works. Who has good synergies and what is hard to beat.

[lofty tartan]

And just as an aside, I'd restrict myself to one underutilized "silver bullet" mon on a team instead of two like both Gliscor and Skeledirge

Take one of em. Surround them with good synergy

[solid frigate]

im gonna go back to college work rn now that there are others helping Kalos

[lofty tartan]

I'm just waiting for my phone to charge and then I have to go lift weights

MY HELP COMES AT A PRICE

[solid frigate]

just regular good ol routine?

[lofty tartan]

Four days a week

[cyan smelt]

i'm gonna research how to think outside the box

[lofty tartan]

Every time is harder than the last time

[lofty tartan]

I'm gonna be honest, thinking outside of the box is just a fun term for critical thinking and problem solving skills. It's challenging the known assumptions and scrutinizing over often-overlooked details

[cyan smelt]

not a strong suit of mine

[lofty tartan]

Frankly the term originated in the 70s because of a puzzle.

[solid frigate]

I’m just doing Physics Questions to make my brain better rn

[lofty tartan]

Any learning exercises the brain muscles

Not using it is the same as working out for a few years and then stopping suddenly

[cyan smelt]

need to do more learning then

[lofty tartan]

Honestly just reading books is a good way to work your brain.

Reading good.

[solid frigate]

And solve some math problem making my brain running

[lofty tartan]

Read crazy higher-thinking books even

I'm not a math buff. I'm more of a literacy buff

I appreciate math.

<-- philosophy

[cyan smelt]

i'n teaching myself maths

[lofty tartan]

Pokemon is math.

Math is power.

Pokemon is power.

[cyan smelt]

i was never good at maths

[lofty tartan]

I mean all of this is math, not even kidding. Just cute stat blocks smashed together for our enjoyment and competitiveness.

But yeah man you do math all the time so you're bound to get good.

[solid frigate]

the fact i sucked at maths lol

[lofty tartan]

When you first start VGC the leaps and bounds you make in skill growth are tangible. That growth slows as you accumulate knowledge.

[solid frigate]

especially before i moved to uk

[cyan smelt]

i feel like i'm losing knowledge the more i play, i feel like i don't understand what's going on

[lofty tartan]

So naturally you're going to feel like you're stagnating and you're not. You're just vibing. Not all ideas are good ideas and not all good ideas are ideas you should be doing

Reg H is pretty deep. I agree. It's hard to see things coming CTS

[solid frigate]

Especially in this format i did not made any meta teams lol

[lofty tartan]

OTS invalidates so much of that. Nearly all of it.

You still see crazy stuff OTS.

But you SEE it. Big difference

And like it's fine if people see what you're doing - make them have it. Make them make the right call, and play to your outs

[solid frigate]

And make sure to look at inspirations on others

[cyan smelt]

i feel like i don't take anything in from the content creators i watch, maybe i should take notes

[chrome knot]

im scared for what i have read

[lofty tartan]

Nah

Normal stuff

[mint void]

@cyan smelt what mon do u like?

[cyan smelt]

gambit

[solid frigate]

everyone learn things differently so its fine if Content Creators dont work for you

I personally did not rely on content creators to do my teambuild

[cyan smelt]

i like p2 too, it's bulky

[solid frigate]

i think P2 Ursa Teams could work for you

[cyan smelt]

honestly not a bad idea

eviolite anger point primeape seems funny

[solid frigate]

I’ve beaten that team before

And i need to wash my eyes

[cyan smelt]

i also saw someone using mabostiff with red card and jaw lock

[mint void]

I felt like just blank stealing teams not listening to how they work but learning by doing help me

[chrome knot]

you what

[solid frigate]

You play rentals by knowing how they work in practice,Not by blank pointless stealing teams

[bold geode]

Stimky 🫵

[solid frigate]

Monke

[mighty stump]

@chrome knot guess what

[cyan smelt]

chicken butt

[mighty stump]

peepeepoopoo

[bold geode]

[mighty stump]

Anw in general I feel if you can’t really understand how a team is being played by watching there is something to be said about your understanding of the game

Since everything basically flows the same conceptually

[chrome knot]

yo mama

[cyan smelt]

yeah i struggle with conceptual thinking

[mighty stump]

TICKS

[chrome knot]

my brother in christ

https://tenor.com/view/tinkaton-meme-tinkaton-evolution-line-hammer-pokemon-pink-pokemon-pokemon-game-gif-9587729220058263287

[mighty stump]

The logical flow of things can make it easier

Like a simple 2+2 vibe

Just try your best to identify the straightforward stuff

[plain drum]

[cyan smelt]

like peli arch and mausape?

and whims typhlosion?

idk why i ever stopped using ursa bm actually

[chrome knot]

@mighty stump listen to song

https://open.spotify.com/track/5vNRhkKd0yEAg8suGBpjeY?si=A1zMCiQtQa67Eu6rdOYIRw&context=spotify%3Asearch%3Arose%2Bapt

[mint void]

I feel like you are missing my point. I did that because I just like figuring out things and its not hard to understand how a team works by looking at it.
It just helped ME more to do it that way.

Sure you have specifc EV spreads that are made for specific scenarios which are hard to see without explanation.

[bold geode]

Plz tell me you didn't keep the jar

[plain drum]

[mighty stump]

Uhm

No we ended up throwing them out

[mighty stump]

I already did

Now watch Arcane

[chrome knot]

oo maybe

[craggy dagger]

why are you always late to music trends

[chrome knot]

IDK

im not a music nerd im sorryyy

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

it’s a month old im not thaaat lateeee

[night flax]

whats the best held item for a adament , dragon dance baxcaliber

competitive

[night flax]

and best ev's to train into baxcaliber

[chrome knot]

surely we can use any sort of statistics site

[night flax]

huh?

[solid frigate]

Clear Amulet-

[night flax]

clear amulet?-

[solid frigate]

blocks intimidate

and Stat drop

[night flax]

oh wow okay

bro i was thinking that was the boosted money amulet-

[chrome knot]

loaded dice

[craggy dagger]

emma it’s ddance i don’t think-
loaded dice

[craggy dagger]

oh
you’re thinking of the coin amulet

[chrome knot]

im clickin scale shot!!!

[mint void]

@chrome knot you should do what Tofu says

Great idea

[next stump]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reghbo3-2249025756

LOL

[chrome knot]

oh nooo bro

[spiral ridge]

DO IT

[chrome knot]

ill see if kat would watcch me with me

[spiral ridge]

I love arcane so much

[chrome knot]

thats the decider

[spiral ridge]

It’s so good

It was the lesbian show I told you about that one time

[chrome knot]

@mighty stump okie i watching arcane eventually with the wifey

[balmy glen]

arcane :0

I just finished cobra Kai so I’ll watch that when I get back from sac

[spiral ridge]

It’s so good

Literally my one issue with it is when they released the songs they added (from the league of legends series: arcane)

And that’s only an issue cus it ruins the vibe of some song titles

https://open.spotify.com/track/0aJNOA7ycPQJKADfmGqzz7?si=xlCmByM6QtGnkgsvDHOy4w

Like this title is so fucking cool and there’s just that at the end

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2249175150

My Brain-

[torn parrot]

it really should

then people will stop complaining about singles players

like they are the plague

[quartz silo]

Dam whats wrong with us single players? ;-;

[torn parrot]

nothing, your perfect

https://tenor.com/view/pet-dog-adorable-cute-gif-14614095

[quartz silo]

Im just old school is all

[molten oasis]

[craggy dagger]

it’s a general competitive (both vgc and singles) chat but the regulars here play more vgc

[raven sapphire]

What’s the best way to use sylveon in the current meta?

[craggy dagger]

pixilate specs hyper beam hyper voice moonblast
or
pixilate lorb tera fire blast hyper voice quick attack

@solid frigate you know more about sylveon than me

[raven sapphire]

Ty ty

[gentle crag]

char1954 has given 1 Gen Rep to interstellar_latte

[rustic mountain]

volc might be the best fairy type rn

[solid frigate]

Hyper Voice,Quick Attack,Protect,Tera Blast

Sylveon @ Throat Spray
Ability: Pixilate
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 220 HP / 116 Def / 156 SpA / 12 SpD / 4 Spe
Modest Nature

• Hyper Voice
• Quick Attack
• Protect
• Tera Blast

[torn parrot]

normal take, fluttermane was healthy

[solid frigate]

ehhhh i'd say its alright

[torn parrot]

okay like

it went a little bit over the healthy range by having a god typing and 135 speed and 135 special attack

but it like had its major weakness

[next stump]

The main reason it’s not 2 separate chats is that it would segment the community a lot, especially singles. That could would likely be dead

[raven sapphire]

Thanks this is perfect

[gentle crag]

You gave Gen Rep too recently. You can give Gen Rep again <t:1732309582:R>.

[quartz silo]

I was told last night when i said i was doing singles that this chat is for vgc meaning doubles mainly

[spiral ridge]

Yknow I’m curious how manageable xerneas would be if it came back today
I feel like it would probably go better than last time as we do have better haze options today

[torn parrot]

you should try it, once you try doubles its hard to go back

[craggy dagger]

that’s so true though

i mean the basics of battling is pretty much the same though

[torn parrot]

vgc is the red pill

[craggy dagger]

vgc/doubles is much faster paced though which a lot of people enjoy cuz singles is prone to stall strats all the time

[solid frigate]

its more like

The Basic then split into 2 paths

[quartz silo]

I used to do alot of battle subway doubles in black/white, i feel like COMP doubles is way too much imo

[raven sapphire]

You think Zamazenta would pair well with Sylveon?

[torn parrot]

it certainly can be an overwhelming learning curve

you can indeed start with simple strats tho

[solid frigate]

Comp Doubles kinda provides Complexity which is good,however Singles are fine

[craggy dagger]

but like i said before
this chat is for both singles and doubles (or at least i assume that’s what the admins made this channel for) so it’s okay to ask questions abt singles-
the only downside is not many of us will be able to help

[torn parrot]

at this point its so one sided it wold probably be better to seperate a vcg channel

[solid frigate]

Not really,Sylveon does not survive that well in Reg G+It does not contribute more than that

[craggy dagger]

yeah…

[raven sapphire]

Hm ok

[craggy dagger]

i sense a challenge-
are you challenging me to make them work

[quartz silo]

Yeah thats true, its a completely different approach which is nice, just a bit overwhelming for me to do competitively

[solid frigate]

Nova PLEASE NO

[craggy dagger]

[next stump]

the best part about VGC is the potential for in person events

[craggy dagger]

yeah doubles can get overwhelming really quickly, needing to remember board states, the two pokemon in front of you, your opponents 2 mons, the different moves that they have-
but over time you get used to it and you’re able to make plays that might throw off your opponent

[next stump]

if singles had that, i think a lot more people would consider playing

[solid frigate]

agreed and in comp board state is more complex making more decision making

[craggy dagger]

yeah this too-
irl events sanctioned the TPCi are double battles (mostly known as the official format)

but i feel like another reason why it’s doubles is because singles would take forever

[raven sapphire]

I think she is u should try and make them work

[solid frigate]

yeah we don't want stall stuff

Minor stall is ok imo

[craggy dagger]

well-
i’m sorry Aegis but looks like i have to

[solid frigate]

N O V A

NO PLEASE

[craggy dagger]

whyyyy

surely hyper beam sylveon can’t be that bad

also doesn’t sylveon hit into the restricted meta pretty well

mirai, korai, and other dragon types
chien pao as well
once tera fire, ice rider,

[quartz silo]

Yeah, i also feel like there would be too much room for cheeze like stall and unwinnable board states. Im kinda in the middle between wanting to do comp and just wanting to have a good time rather than use whats meta

[craggy dagger]

in doubles?

i’d say maybe cheese and really weird plays are more common in doubles but stalling is a lot harder because you have to deal with the possibility of 2 attacks going into one pokemon

[quartz silo]

True

[craggy dagger]

and sometimes, even the bulkiest pokemon might not be able to take 2 hits from 2 individual pokemon-
plus in official tournament formats/rulesets, they give you a restriction on what you can and can’t use (it’s usually not that restrictive, with the more common ones being only 1 “restricted” category legendary pokemon) so it’s a lot harder to fall for stall teams

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2249202110

PFFT 2 1 turn sleep and Double Protect lol

[craggy dagger]

anyways i’m gonna go burn down the world with that sylveon zamazenta team

[solid frigate]

GOD NO

[quartz silo]

Good luck!

[craggy dagger]

my mind is set on it teehee~

[next stump]

sacramento tomorrow perfectly timed with thanksgiving break

[craggy dagger]

[spiral ridge]

Goodluck hun

[craggy dagger]

oh-
sylveon is slower than i thought

[spiral ridge]

Sash breaker sylv with fairy quick attack

[spiral ridge]

[craggy dagger]

bleh-
we’re gonna see a bunch of farigiraf resurface

[spiral ridge]

Mhm

[balmy glen]

Gaming

[spiral ridge]

Farig idm as much as indee

At least when it’s gone it’s gone 😭

No lasting terrain

[craggy dagger]

here’s like-
a really
basic idea

https://pokepast.es/893a3803181f9bdd

[spiral ridge]

Gl

[craggy dagger]

the obvious last slot is incin but i kinda wanna try harc

i could bring back that crackhead team i made with the cosmog

nvm i found the last slot

https://pokepast.es/d1b8e43bcbefd61c

[dull ibex]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9vgc2024regh-2249212939

live game

I was hoping bronzong clicked tr

because I double clicked tr

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2249212939

[raven sapphire]

Hell yeah I believe in you

[dull ibex]

it doesnt need to resurface tbf its already common

im thinking of running it actually

[craggy dagger]

is it common in reg H-
i havent seen much

[raven sapphire]

Wouldn’t wide guard be better than protect? For Zamazenta

[dull ibex]

I see it all of the time

[craggy dagger]

ehhhh
wide guard iron defense no

[dull ibex]

why not?

[craggy dagger]

id prefer protect over wide guard

[chrome knot]

@balmy glen gl sac tomorrow brother🫡

[raven sapphire]

Wait now that I think ab it isn’t Zamazenta banned in the new format 😭😭

[craggy dagger]

oh
for regulation G rerun
cuz its coming back soon

[raven sapphire]

Ohh

[dull ibex]

what set should i run on zama

before i just run 252 hp and 252 def 4 attack

LMAO

[raven sapphire]

Lmfao run this trust

[dull ibex]

I know you are trolling but I will

[balmy glen]

Moment

[balmy glen]

Just go Body Press Heavy Slam Wide guard Protect

If u have scarf Lando I I’d go Covert Cloak/ Safety goggles Pelipper and add helping hand over protect

[craggy dagger]

[balmy glen]

Also if u wanna do this type of sylveon you could just go Tera blast over moonblast so you can cover for weather wars

Tera’s for Zama should always be one of the 3- Dragon, Grass, ghost tbh

With Pelipper edition I usually just default to grass tbh but you do have Rilla and Oger hearth and have a choice to change to goggles Pelipper so up to u

You could go Tera ghost for Koraidon, and Zama mirror or Tera dragon for best overall defensive just because u have Oger hearth redirection

[raven sapphire]

How could I make greninja viable like what would I have to do

[solid frigate]

I'm not letting anyone ping me this time

[craggy dagger]

-# pings you anyways

[solid frigate]

FUCK

[balmy glen]

moment of ping

[balmy glen]

Gracias

[gentle crag]

keanufps has given 1 Gen Rep to setsumizi

[balmy glen]

I have 0 games with my team

we’re so back

[raven sapphire]

Put Greninja on it he’s tuff trust

[solid frigate]

no

[raven sapphire]

Yes

Stellar Protean Greninja

[solid frigate]

N o.

Greninja @ Focus Sash
Ability: Protean
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Water Shuriken
• Taunt
• Dark Pulse
• Haze

better

[misty helm]

Me watching my friend use normal gem fake out unburden on sneasler which I had suggested to him and then sweeping the rest of my team with it

[solid frigate]

yeah what the heck-

[shadow wind]

It’s usually better for singles

[misty helm]

We’re singles players

[solid frigate]

welp

i guess protect is pointless in Singles unless it fucking stall

[chrome knot]

ahah

[misty helm]

Also he thinks if the Pokémon games had online multi battles me and him would sync well

Also a good question does dire claw one shot a 252 defense sylveon if max invested

[shadow wind]

Probably?

You could use the damage calc

[chrome knot]

no

252 Atk Sneasler Dire Claw vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Sylveon: 140-168 (69.3 - 83.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[shadow wind]

Oh max max invest

252+ Atk Sneasler Dire Claw vs. 0 HP / 252 Def Sylveon: 156-186 (91.7 - 109.4%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO

[misty helm]

I wasn’t sure because my friend is more casual than I am therefore not ev training everything to min max

Good to know he would have struggled to take my Sylveon down regardless

But I guess he also learned how to deal with it’s psychic

But he’s also kinda playing mind games with hyper voice

[raven sapphire]

Wait do majority of yall play singles mainly?

[chrome knot]

no

[bold geode]

@solid frigate @solid frigate

[knotty mirage]

Not really i mean i do play single but it bss because i only play exclusively on cart

[raven sapphire]

Ohhh ok

[dull ibex]

If i roll my eyes anyharder at vgc I might pop a blood vessel

[torn parrot]

what happened

[molten oasis]

Do tell

[dull ibex]

Solid plan on arch

Turns out it's sturdy

They win

Solid plan into gambit it's focus sash

[torn parrot]

iv also encountered sash gambits

[molten oasis]

Aw damn

[molten oasis]

This format is so dumb lol

[torn parrot]

thats the best part

[strange fjord]

i encounted a mental herb porygon 2

[torn parrot]

lol honestly i was waiting for someone to do that

i guess the argument could be made of like they could just use farigiraf with mental herb instead

[chrome knot]

no bc porygon needs the eviolite bulk lmao

[molten oasis]

The best part of the format is knowing it’ll end for me

[torn parrot]

youll get your doggy back
ill probably make one team and dip

[molten oasis]

I don’t like the huge variance in these formats

I don’t play enough to learn how to play into everything

So I didnt ever really enjoy this format

I like that higher power formats do restrict how strong stuff gets even tho it’s cool that some things get to shine

[bold geode]

Thx

[gentle crag]

dollarmonke has given 1 Gen Rep to mlbd

[torn parrot]

I hope some bullshit wins

[chrome knot]

you would yeah

[torn parrot]

You know it

[atomic portal]

prob toilet balance

[torn parrot]

I’m hungry

But

I’ll only be eating dinner once I finish my work

[atomic portal]

pizza and arcane tmrw

[torn parrot]

Hell yeah

[molten oasis]

I played a reg h bo3

idk why I don’t play bo3 it’s a much better experience lol

[rustic mountain]

idk bout healthy but it was fine. i think anytime a mon eclipses 50% useage rate at irls it stops being healthy even if the mon isnt inherently broken or anything

[molten oasis]

Did flutter ever hit that high?

[rustic mountain]

yes

multiple times iirc

[molten oasis]

Reg c?

Idt it hit that high usage reg b

[rustic mountain]

idk the exact reg(s) but def hit over 50% atleast a cppl times

[molten oasis]

oh, yea prob reg c, reg d I think as well

Reg e and onward idt it ever was 50%

[rustic mountain]

yea

wouldve had to be series 2 -reg d era

[molten oasis]

Idt anything has been 50% since I think

Maybe shifu or incin but idk

[rustic mountain]

sneaslers been 50% in reg h

[molten oasis]

ah yea true

[rustic mountain]

urshi i think hit 50 once or twice

[molten oasis]

Can’t wait for the cope

[rustic mountain]

i think rilla and incin have hovered around 40-45%

[bold geode]

Sneasler cough cough

[molten oasis]

There’s ways to deal with sneasler tho, flutter in those regs got kinda nuts

Technically there’s always a way, but sneaslers easier to manage than say reg c flutter yu shit

[rustic mountain]

id argue sneasler can be more annoying w/ the rng aspect

[molten oasis]

You’re so right

[dull ibex]

reg G set? anyone?

[molten oasis]

I just remembered the amount of times I got full para’d or slept t1

[rustic mountain]

reg g?hell no

[dull ibex]

COWARD! /j

[molten oasis]

I’m gonna go play metaphor so nah

I have a lot of kinks to work out with my reg g team as well lol

I’ve been told is unhinged

Reg I technically

[rustic mountain]

reg g is compartmentalized in my head and wont be revisited until jan

[molten oasis]

Lmfao real

The break admittedly was nice

[rustic mountain]

its been great

[bold geode]

Wonder how it will go
The teams for Worlds were pretty optimized so it's either gonna be finding ways to beat said optimizations or see who can run the optimized teams better imo

[molten oasis]

It was nice to not deal with incin fo parting rilla fo u-turn shifu surging strikes

[rustic mountain]

itll have more development

[molten oasis]

And CSR NP into ggs

[rustic mountain]

its always cyclical in a sense

meta forms-meta adapts to beat/optimize itself into said meta and repeat

[molten oasis]

Meanwhile I’ll live in my little zacian corner

I’m gonna get Wellspring Zac to work

That seems so solid on paper

[steep swallow]

zacian jumpscare

[torn parrot]

Okay healthy is a stretch

It was still amazing

But without it

We see the true state that fairy types are in

😔

[rustic mountain]

fairy is one of the best types in the game, idt this format is the best indicator of its strength overall

think sometimes its just how the meta is, lot of strong steel types and a strong poison type and the fairy types that are allowed atm jus dont really do enough to generally justify a place

[molten oasis]

Ah ah

Primarina was good in reg f

Fluttermane was so strong it just, yea lol

[torn parrot]

The type is

[molten oasis]

(I made it work and it worked well)

[torn parrot]

Just not the quality of fairy types

[molten oasis]

Also you’re forgetting Tera fairy calyrex

[torn parrot]

Ye I still think it’s pretty good

[molten oasis]

And Tera fairy raging bolt? Oh and also Tera fairy volcarona

We have good fairy types

[rustic mountain]

lol

[molten oasis]

My favorite tho, gotta be tera fairy fluttermane that’s just the pinnacle of fairy types

And also dog

[torn parrot]

My opinion is without fluttermane we just see that a lot of fairy types arnt very good so people have to make do with alternatives or the best that fairy has to offer in this format like ninetales or rina. lots of people just giving up on them entirely and just making their own fairy types with tera

[rustic mountain]

jus winds up being context based tho for even some of the decent-solid ones allowed now, they just lack a place/purpose. doesnt mean they are bad. in the same way heatran and lando t arent suddenly bad pokemon cause they fell out of favor with how some of the metas developed in reg e and f and so on

[molten oasis]

Oh I forgot one Tera fairy miraidon

[torn parrot]

Guess that is true context matters

[molten oasis]

I think it’s more what happens in the meta

A9 doesn’t even run fairy stab that much rn

We have a9 for lack of ice coverage and disruption for rain

Which ice is better into the format than fairy

Sneasler made primarina’s life kinda miserable

[torn parrot]

That is very tru

[molten oasis]

Fairies are good into like, the dragons rn

[rustic mountain]

xerneas and the tapus not being allowed kinda skewed flutter useage, its less flutter being good and more just it being the best fairy type thats been allowed in sv + the booster stuff it can utlize

[torn parrot]

that’s what I’m sayin tho

[molten oasis]

Isn’t the one main dark type literally gambit who’s neutral to fairy lol

Actually I don’t see gambit as much

[rustic mountain]

i play gambit atleast every other game

[molten oasis]

…

Do I just not play people running meta lol

The last thing I fought, on ladder, was like, what that gunk shot ape lol

[rustic mountain]

idk lol but atleast lately gambit is pretty common for me

[molten oasis]

anyway the point was that fairy doesn’t do much into the notable dark types either

And ape is the only fighting type that’s weak to fairy

that’s meta

[rustic mountain]

hence lack of purpose/place i was mentioning earlier

[molten oasis]

Yeah, dengo gives fairies a hard time as well

[rustic mountain]

it has its uses for sure like the dragons u mentioned but they can just tera out of that nd ur kinda back to square one unless u can navigate it in a way to punish it and still take favorable trades

[molten oasis]

Ice also does the same thing

Hence a9 never really needing fairy stab

Whimsi’s support moonblast is just its thing for damage

Prima fell off a cliff

oh, a9’s gonna become so irrelevant in reg I damn

so will basc

[rustic mountain]

dude

everything is boutta be p much

[molten oasis]

Not incin

But yea this meta isn’t gonna affect reg I much

[rustic mountain]

well yea thats why i said pretty much lol

[molten oasis]

The cope for sneasler will be there

[rustic mountain]

ima gna be so happy to play vs sneaslers

[molten oasis]

Lmfao

Nice sneasler eat an edrift

[rustic mountain]

eat this surging strikes to the face

nice sash

[molten oasis]

Nice sash bro

Oh yea you’d be actively choosing sneasler over shifu

Good trade bro

[rustic mountain]

exactly

or iron hands

[molten oasis]

BRIAN HANDS

[bold geode]

Sneasler is gonna be in an endless battle between Seed and Sash since it'll probably go on Mirai teams and either way it'll lose

[molten oasis]

Because the guy with shifu will end up winning

Pretty sure every restricted that’s meta doesn’t care about it

[bold geode]

Also I'm running Iron Hands and Hearthflame in some Reg G sets
Bruh I miss ez mode lmao

[rustic mountain]

all its gna be is im gna outspeed this and hope for dire claw sleep/para

[bold geode]

It needs Sash to live strong hits but it needs Seed proc to outspeed things

[rustic mountain]

nd then ppl r gna realize thats an awful gameplan and move on

[molten oasis]

Then it doesn’t happen and op it’s dead

The illusion of freedom

We lose sneasler at what cost

[rustic mountain]

haha yea id honestly prefer to keep lower power format

[bold geode]

Nah gimme legendaries back
Already got the sauce

[rustic mountain]

zama + ray is not the sauce

[lofty tartan]

First name Brian.

Last name Hands

[molten oasis]

Brian hands the goat

[molten oasis]

Nah the sauce is zacian (the cope is insane)

[rustic mountain]

it did well at worlds considering how few players brought it

[molten oasis]

It’s good anti meta

[rustic mountain]

jus have ur work cut out for u

[molten oasis]

It’s also not meta it just has a harder time ik what im getting myself into

[rustic mountain]

especially if ur not jus gna yoink those teams

[lofty tartan]

Going from G to H to G is a bit disappointing and not alphabetical at all

[molten oasis]

Nope, because I wanna get wellspring Zac to work

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

I think it’s gas

Wellspring is the worst form that doesn’t mean it’s bad

[lofty tartan]

Like I'd rather progress formats than rehash one that was clearly overburdend by Shadow Rider.

[molten oasis]

Well no it’s teal but yea, not the top guy

[lofty tartan]

G, H, I. Not G, H, G

[rustic mountain]

whose saying that?

[balmy glen]

12 more hours until I can see if I can day 2 without playing a single game with my team

[molten oasis]

I think corner and hearth are the better forms

[lofty tartan]

Wellspring being worst form is a stretch

[molten oasis]

But I also think wellspring is better than teal, but also depends on the team

[lofty tartan]

I mean all of the forms are good. So worst is a "for what it's worth" moment.

[rustic mountain]

idm the rotating formats but id prefer they keep them a bit more fresh

[molten oasis]

Wellspring covers zacian’s weaknesses pretty well

And gives redirect for SD

[lofty tartan]

I could groove with fresh twists on old lukewarm formats

[molten oasis]

Breaking news your restricteds cannot Tera

[rustic mountain]

i think its tough cause they cant really do what they did in swsh like ban the top most used or take away the gimmick cuz we have irl tours again and it messes w/ that

[molten oasis]

I’m kidding lol that won’t happen

[lofty tartan]

Yeah for sure. Plus no more spikemuth cup stuff is honestly good.

[rustic mountain]

tours r always gna mirror the in game ladder so they have to be specific how they do it

[lofty tartan]

Banning the top used just makes another group of centralizing pokes

[rustic mountain]

spikemuth was cool

[molten oasis]

I think one format without Tera could maybe be interesting if they really wanted to mix stuff up

Cuz the other option is allow mythicals

[lofty tartan]

I think the concept is neat but the implementation was whack. Banning Hippowdom and Ttar because Hippo was top usage in singles is nuts

[rustic mountain]

or takes away checks to things that kept the game balanced and then you just have a wild west of mu roulette that is terribly coin flippy

[lofty tartan]

Just gut an entire weather strategy

[rustic mountain]

that was stupid yea haha but in general i would rather they just live update then do bans

[molten oasis]

That would be so nice

[rustic mountain]

we had to wait like 4 tours before they were like oops order up was bugged

[molten oasis]

I forgot about that

[chrome knot]

hi tree

[rustic mountain]

yo

[lofty tartan]

It's a small indie dev company, tree. Cut them some slack.

[rustic mountain]

[lofty tartan]

Jeeze man

Sid Vicious over here

[torn parrot]

i guess they just wanna drag it out as long as posisble until the final format

[molten oasis]

They kinda have to

[lofty tartan]

There's other things they can do. And 26 letters in the American alphabet

[molten oasis]

lol

They do have to do another year of this game

[lofty tartan]

Yeah they are the parent company that makes the rules. They can do literally whatever format they can dream of

[molten oasis]

There’s single again and double restricted, but idk what they do after

[lofty tartan]

Ban Steel

[molten oasis]

No Tera format maybe, idk

[lofty tartan]

Lmfao

[molten oasis]

lol

Alright guys no water types for 3 months good luck

[lofty tartan]

The reign of sand

[molten oasis]

Only bug types have fun fighting volcarona mirrors for 3-4 months

[lofty tartan]

A format where only incin is legal

[molten oasis]

A true fight of evs and skill lol

Only shifu format

[lofty tartan]

You can't have two incin built the same way

They all need different sets

[molten oasis]

Choice band incin is real and it can hurt you lol

[lofty tartan]

But you need 6 Incin's per team

ALL INTIMIDATE. ALL THE TIME

[molten oasis]

Lmao

[bold geode]

Lemme get that shit bro

[bold geode]

Kitty

[rustic mountain]

u think this ray event is a sign to use it or something?

oh fuck i forgot to claim that shiny pelipper

[lofty tartan]

Propaganda

[bold geode]

I been a Ray believer

[rustic mountain]

frfr

[rustic mountain]

ik im saying ur using it as reinforcement for ur cope

[bold geode]

Flying damage good into meta threats and Dragon Ascent is like
The one consistent Flying move

[lofty tartan]

Brave Bird

[bold geode]

Used it before
I'll use it again
So far with friendlies, it's actually not bad

Plus I found out I love Hearthflame LMAO

[lofty tartan]

Brave Bird is consistent.

[bold geode]

Rule #1 : when in doubt, Ivy Cudgel

[rustic mountain]

hearthflame is good i will say i did not see it having the resurgence it did towards the end of reg g

@chrome knot called it

[bold geode]

It did good in VR tours

[chrome knot]

told you

hearthflame hit everyone

[lofty tartan]

Turns out bonks are good. It's like a mini fire Zacian

[rustic mountain]

yea i jus dont always see that as the best tell tho

[chrome knot]

nobody knew that tho

[rustic mountain]

sometimes vr tour results are not real meta stuff or fall out off favor etc

[bold geode]

Though tbh I didn't think it'd convert as well due to like
It seeing that usage so I figured people would prep for it
Hell Luca said himself he almost didn't bring it

[lofty tartan]

I played Hearthflame next to Regidrago in Reg G for awhile.

[rustic mountain]

i admit wen im wrong

[bold geode]

ACTUALLY deadass Wellspring doing well wasn't on my card
And Low Kick Hands wasn't either and that scares tf outta me

[rustic mountain]

oh right low kick hands lmao

i forgot a lot of the worlds adaptations

[bold geode]

I was like "bruh if I ever go back to Zamazenta imma have to figure out how to beat this fucker"

[rustic mountain]

reg g coming back is cool ig theres quite a few restricteds i didnt use

[lofty tartan]

I'm more surprised that you thought Wellspring would be bad xD

[bold geode]

It just didn't do much throughout G except like a few times

[rustic mountain]

wellspring did fall out of favor heavily

it was really good in reg e and f

[bold geode]

Also Incineroar only getting top 8
I know it's value kinda was falling a tiny bit but like
I still figured someone would figure out how to get it at least to finals

I think ClAm was actually starting to catch up to Incin a tiny bit

[lofty tartan]

It's not just a one-dimensional thing. There's a lot of factors there.

Like their opponents being living thinking people lol

People think that it's somehow just the pokemon winning games and doing stuff and practically invalidate the pilots

[rustic mountain]

eh incin is still a great mon but i think we are just seeing more ways/options people are finding that make it not as much of a must pick as it once was

which is good

[chrome knot]

i told everyone!!!!!!!!!

https://tenor.com/view/mr-krabs-krabs-spongebob-rabid-foam-mouth-gif-12914290795242109833

[bold geode]

Actually most surprising
Guess what Raging Bolt's highest placement was

[rustic mountain]

idk

[lofty tartan]

You should've seen me when I was preaching Sneasler being busted in Reg H on day -30 of the format

[bold geode]

It was 10th place

[rustic mountain]

thats solid

[lofty tartan]

No one believed me. "Sneasler is mid"

[bold geode]

Yeah but I figured that'd also be higher

[shadow wind]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2249422973-b23dbemngzp9jw5j4ojcj58q4vzgdsnpw

Lowkey cooked this game

[bold geode]

I'm also happy Terapagos got like
T8 iirc?

[rustic mountain]

eh again, i think ppl jus figured out ways of dealing w/ it/using other options that made it not as strong/relevant as it was in reg f and early reg g

again still a strong mon

[rustic mountain]

yea it did

no csr in top 8

[bold geode]

I saw VR tour 2 before Worlds had a lot of CSR and no turtle for day 2 and I was like "bruh this shit so undervalued"

[rustic mountain]

it was like 2 miraidon 2 cir, zama, pagos nd i forgot the other 2

[bold geode]

Now it'll have harder time cuz of some meta teams now

I think 2 teams you unironically have to prepare for is Luca's team and MDB's team
And the Zama one isn't even bias, that shits just good

[rustic mountain]

yea ofc

if u dont consider any of top 8 teams at worlds wat r u doing haha

oh it was 3 cir 3 miraidon and zama pagos thats why i didnt remember the other 2 restricteds

[bold geode]

Yeah
But that Zama team is actually REALLY good
Like I threw some spreads on the 6 that were definitely probably outdated and it still slapped
Probably best team I've ever ran

[rustic mountain]

the patcon 6 was my fav team i ran in reg g

[bold geode]

And then Luca's team has a bunch of immediate offense + if you're not having a MU for the Worlds winning team, tf you doin

[rustic mountain]

ill prolly start reg g + w/ luca or mdbs team tbh lmao

[bold geode]

Yeah

I gotta use the sauce bro
Then again I got a head start so

[rustic mountain]

r u saying mdbs team is the sauce?

or something else u have? (it better not be ray based)

[bold geode]

Totally not Ray

[molten oasis]

What? I’m totally considering using one of those

[rustic mountain]

lol not even just using but like, thinking about wen ur choosing/building another team

[molten oasis]

Oh for sure

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

I’ll do THAT I’m not dumb

cope

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

Zacian’s proven it works

Idt im being genuinely stupid using it

That would be like, using mewtwo or smth

Solo caly

[shadow wind]

Bazinga

[bold geode]

MY MEWTWO TEAM IS ASS?!

[shadow wind]

Do NOT look at my GXE

[molten oasis]

Mewtwo sucks

[molten oasis]

64?

[torn parrot]

he has like

over 2k games on that account so it makes sense the gxe would be weird

oh

nvm...

over 5k...

wait nvm

thats a different guy

holy fuck its that oricorio guy

god he plays so much oricorio

how do you even

have the mental capacity to play this many games

[torn parrot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2249448524-3lpmz463504uj97ejksrn91lf0znikcpw

i love when they have literally 0 psyspam answers

(yes i see the weezing)

[quartz silo]

I swear im not trying to belittle anyone for how they play, but is 6 legendaries the norm for rando online battles?

[shadow wind]

Yes

[quartz silo]

Oh, i guess i have my work cut out for me then lol

[craggy dagger]

if i can make cosmog work then i can make mewtwo work

[solid frigate]

oh god

[cyan smelt]

Psyspam Mewtwo

[torn parrot]

you did not make cosmog work

[cyan smelt]

Maybe I should just try psyspam

[torn parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/evangelion-asuka-look-down-anime-gif-14807599

[cyan smelt]

Doesn't it know calm mind

[torn parrot]

no

lol

[cyan smelt]

Cosmic power

[torn parrot]

maybe your thinking of this one

[cyan smelt]

Just as useless lmao

[torn parrot]

yeah lmao

[craggy dagger]

i did make cosmog work

[torn parrot]

theres no way

you have to tell me

[craggy dagger]

sash teleport

[torn parrot]

damn

i mean i guess he does one thing

[craggy dagger]

free switch with the liability of only being able to just 3 mons

[torn parrot]

okay besides that

you can totally mewtwo cook

i beleive

[molten oasis]

Make it work is different than it being good lol

[mighty stump]

Just choice specs Mewtwo

[molten oasis]

Genius

[mint void]

https://pokepast.es/17a354da75720153

[dull ibex]

Toxic tofu

[mighty stump]

Focus Sash + double recoil move seems counter-intuitive

[dull ibex]

Venukoal rises again

[bold geode]

Hey Tofu

[dull ibex]

gross its monke

[solid frigate]

lol

[tranquil kraken]

🚿

[dull ibex]

jokes on you I learned the attack patterns of my shower I can now dodge it

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-cat-sus-cat-tg-brakishkin-cat-shower-cat-gif-17992285488664033204

[chrome knot]

me asf

[knotty mirage]

So i'm trying to make choice band scizor build is this good enough ?
Scizor @ Choice Band
Ability: Techinician
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Attack / 4 Spdef
Adamant Nature

• Bullet Punch
• Knock Off
• Close Combat
• U turn

[next stump]

seems solid

[foggy lodge]

Looks ok

[next stump]

might want some speed investment but i dont know its speed tier even

[foggy lodge]

Bug bite is considerable imo

[knotty mirage]

I'm actually considering water tera blast but most of fire type in this reg will just drop too close combat or knock off anyway because of their second typing

[solid frigate]

yeah i like it

[knotty mirage]

Alright time for test drive then

[mint void]

Sash is just to get TW out while keeping flame body.

[chrome knot]

@next stump pms, debating between 2 teams for cup + toronto

[foggy lodge]

why flame body talonflame

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/927b37de5b624b48 remade it

[dull ibex]

this is not a good strategy, if you want burns you should run wisp instead

talon REALLY benefits from cloak

[solid frigate]

and mean Really

We Meant REALLY

[dull ibex]

its not that severe

[solid frigate]

but still

[foggy lodge]

https://www.youtube.com/live/e0acnev0JnE?si=_3quJzwEDAZX91rD

In 10 minutes

good luck to everyone here

[solid frigate]

yooooo

[craggy dagger]

scizor is slow-
i’ve run scarf technician with max speed but that looks fine-
maybe uhh
run 252atk/252speed though

[craggy dagger]

caps out at 128 with +speed nature

[rustic mountain]

this is today?

[chrome knot]

yeah !

tree let me complain to you in pms idk what p2 i wanna use rn

[rustic mountain]

haha ok

[foggy lodge]

https://rk9.gg/pairings/SC02wuJ9D2cOLVUOmpek

[knotty mirage]

Let just say i tried running max speed scizor it's not great and choice scarf already been reserved for other mon

[foggy lodge]

41.9%

We are healing

[solid frigate]

finally

[rustic mountain]

scott is hilarious

"id really rather prefer playing balance and getting 80 cp" in response to ppl not using nils winning sand team at all really since it won

[rustic mountain]

my team is all in the top 12 😍

[solid frigate]

what the lmao

[foggy lodge]

that's a sneasler plush

[foggy lodge]

lol

I thought Nils's team would shake up more the meta but it won and never appeared again

[rustic mountain]

basically jus calling ppl out in a joking way for playing so much balance

[rustic mountain]

yea that was basically wat they were saying

1st game boutta start

cool team

other team has solo dozo, based

[dense latch]

im realizing tera flying is actually a pretty decent defensive tera lmao all of its weaknesses aren’t very common rn

[foggy lodge]

Emelle wake up don't pick Guss aganst Rilla Buzz Dengo

[solid frigate]

kek

[dense latch]

lol

[bold geode]

Anyone have pairings?

[rustic mountain]

good g1

[rustic mountain]

why

[bold geode]

Just wanna keep track

Eh I'll get em myself

[foggy lodge]

@bold geode

[bold geode]

Got em
Appreciate it though

Yotam is 2-0 good shit
But Keanu 0-2

[solid frigate]

F

[rustic mountain]

sand team dominated that set

[bold geode]

I also see Raghav is back

[craggy dagger]

[solid frigate]

My Reaction

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/PiyoLily145/status/1859229275683176629?t=72hp0BNX3xzkxEA3ffpcjw&s=19

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Twitter · Nov 20, 2024, 1:36 PM

A series of reg g tournaments from japan are being played in cart for anyone who wants to play some

[bold geode]

3-0 Yotam

[bold geode]

Time to learn Japanese

[torn parrot]

Regional!!!!

And of course we get a wolfey uoload

He knows how to time vids

When people got their attention on Pokemon

[bold geode]

@foggy lodge can you confirm what time 9pm JST would be for CST?

[bold geode]

@molten oasis time to put that Japan trip to use bro

[molten oasis]

Why

Lemme nap in peace

[bold geode]

Read the content

[bold geode]

Also Drago can I be part of the Zacian club since I'm using mini Zacian

[molten oasis]

Mini zacian?

What you’re using tinkaton?

[bold geode]

Ogerpon Hearthflame

[solid frigate]

does Tinkaton have the necessary Fire Power-

[foggy lodge]

japan is like 15 hours ahead

[bold geode]

Oooh Michael vs Alex Underhil

[bold geode]

So 9pm there time would be 6am for me like it said ok

That's fuckin rough lmao

IDBP KOMMO-O AGAIN WE RUN IT BACK

(We knew he was running this lol)

Surprised the Sini don't got TR

[molten oasis]

You have to Tera

And it isn’t a dog, idk

[bold geode]

But funny bonk

[solid frigate]

at least its more zacian than Tinkaton in technicality

[molten oasis]

Ig you use zama

Suuure

[bold geode]

Yay
Bonk

[solid frigate]

B O N K

[molten oasis]

I mean I do like Ogerpon

I think it’s role is really unique

https://pokepast.es/c18548ca0cde83c0 still positive these 3 are a solid core

Pon and pao can be a thing against CSR, Tera water pon is helpful into CIR plus redirects HHP for Zac

[solid frigate]

yeah still good

[torn parrot]

if you think about it, ariados is basically a better zacian

[molten oasis]

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 168: Ariados

Types

Bug/Poison

Abilities

Swarm, Insomnia, Sniper (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

70/90/70/60/70/40

Total

400

Sableye version 4.28.1

[torn parrot]

lmao

[molten oasis]

What?

[torn parrot]

im kidding

[molten oasis]

Zacian isn’t a bad mon

[torn parrot]

i know king, i love zacian too

[molten oasis]

I honestly probably wouldn’t use Zac if it wasn’t my favorite lol

[timber falcon]

MATHS MOCK ON MONDAY BUT HITTING 1600S ON SATURDAY

GOD THAT TOOK SO LONG

[solid frigate]

he finally did it

he is learning

[foggy lodge]

Why is that Ursa 0 HP investment with AV,,,

[solid frigate]

tf.

[foggy lodge]

Is that Ursaluna 0 evs genuinely

Its slow it has no HP it has no bulk it didn't kill a Talonflame with bloodmoon like what? 😭

36+ SpA Ursaluna-Bloodmoon Blood Moon vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Talonflame: 154-183 (83.2 - 98.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[torn parrot]

!!!

Nice job!!!!!!!!!

I fought that mfing bird frog guy too

His team is crazy

Congrats on the 1600!

Fuckin amazing

You’ve come so far from the time when you were asking for help in this channel

[dense latch]

W 1600 fuck the math mock

[torn parrot]

i didnt see any news about blissey raids do they hapen every weekend

[solid frigate]

math mock exams-

Yeah fuck them

but tbf Pokemon is Math so

not really fuck them

[dense latch]

ik what a mock is i just worded that very wrong lmao

[solid frigate]

moment

almost there-

[bold geode]

Yotam 5-1 we still in it

[solid frigate]

how about Keanu

[whole wraith]

hey guys, does anyuone have or know the fast sweep sun reg h team that has either exeggutor or hisiu lilligant?
a friend is asking, and is wishing for a fast sweep sun team

[solid frigate]

i rather using Lillikoal

Or Whimsphlosion

[next stump]

holy shit that ninetales survival lol

[bold geode]

Don't know tbh

[next stump]

3-2 rn

[solid frigate]

thats..... little bit weary

[bold geode]

Keanu 4-2

[solid frigate]

he needs to win the 7th game

[chrome knot]

and 8th

[foggy lodge]

🚣‍♂️

[solid frigate]

wat

[chrome knot]

what

theres 8 rounds

WAIT IS THERE ONLY 7 ROUNDS??

no im schizo

8 rounds like normal

[near crag]

Hey, I've been testing out this team, but I noticed that in 16 games, I used farigiraf once, and it was utterly pointless. I'm not sure if I should stick to it, or switch it to sinistcha, amoonguss, electabuzz, or even whimsicott (I've done sets for all of them, except for electabuzz). Any ideas? Here's the team: https://pokepast.es/816d0b9045fabab0

[next stump]

classic pokemon player to blame having a bad tourney on being unlucky*

it's a canon experience

wait, wrote that the wrong way

[chrome knot]

what

[next stump]

the stream interview

[foggy lodge]

What did they say?

[next stump]

"i didnt do well at baltimore because i got unlucky, i tweaked my team for this event and now im doing better" basically

nothing crazy but its just funny

[foggy lodge]

Ah lol

[foggy lodge]

You could test Porygon2 i guess?

I think P2 is usually better than Farigiraf in this format, it is more offensive and defensive than Farigiraf

[solid frigate]

bruh moment

[inner jewel]

so I am quite new to VGC. What is the reason behind not wanting a full 31 IV spread except speed? I understand the importance of th speed IV being low/high

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/canon-event-lochan-bwefi-lochan-bwefi-spiderman-gif-1748690152864391590

[foggy lodge]

I think Indeedee Male is also good in this team

[foggy lodge]

Foul play and confusion use the attack stay

[near crag]

That seems intresting, I'll give it a try, thanks!

[gentle crag]

kuklcan has given 1 Gen Rep to maxihd

[solid frigate]

For Special Attackers, usually they will run 0 AtK IVs against Confusion(Which is based on Attack Stat) and Foul Play

[foggy lodge]

For Special attacker or just pokemon that don't use its attack stat is better to have it at 0

[solid frigate]

Special Attackers and Pokemon with no moves that do active damage

[near crag]

Why tho?

[solid frigate]

Fast Psyspam

and enable to stop priority moves like Female one but you can use it for Fast Psyspam

[bold geode]

Ayo Joe Ugarte vs Giovanni Costa

[inner jewel]

ah so when you have a sp.ATK you want to have 0 atk. I see. Any other such cases?

[solid frigate]

well not too many cuz there is no Special Foul Play or Confusion so Physical Attacker would not care about SpA being 0 IVs

[near crag]

Plus you won't have any downsides to having more def, spdef, or hp

[bold geode]

Joe is running the same team

[inner jewel]

ty!

[solid frigate]

unless you are a psychho

[chrome knot]

and the same outfit

[bold geode]

But the hood is on so

[chrome knot]

lock tf in mode

[bold geode]

[chrome knot]

i asked abt that in the car he didnt answer

[bold geode]

You in Sac?

[chrome knot]

nah

[solid frigate]

pfft

[chrome knot]

during Louisville on our way home

[bold geode]

Ah

[next stump]

oh shit that burn is huge

[foggy lodge]

Is that a Whimsicott Inci team omg

[chrome knot]

go joe go!!

[next stump]

yeah he's been running this team for a LONG time actually, he just swapped amoonguss into clefairy

i used the older 6 at louisville

AV kingambit nightmare matchup

[foggy lodge]

Keeps the anti priority thing like Farigiraf while being more offensive, also can enable unburden in Sneasler with psychic seed if you change the items but i think focus sash in Sneasler + scarf Indeedee is fine

[chrome knot]

good god

[next stump]

holy ballsacks

[foggy lodge]

Both P2 and Indeedee Male are usable in that team, i think you just need to test

[next stump]

is that +1 kingambit, i missed it

[chrome knot]

ye

[foggy lodge]

I think it is

[chrome knot]

caught an incin switch t1

[near crag]

aight, thanks bro!

[gentle crag]

kuklcan has given 1 Gen Rep to maxihd

[bold geode]

Yotam is in Day 2 folks

Keanu got win and in coming up

[foggy lodge]

Chill de cojones

Jeudy is out wtf

[bleak spruce]

2-3 at Sac then 2-4

Made this team yesterday

[chrome knot]

why are the casters rly gay today

[solid frigate]

nani

[molten oasis]

Is that a problem?

[chrome knot]

do you know who you’re talking to

[molten oasis]

No

(Yes the tone just seemed off to me my bad)

[bold geode]

I mean are we really mad though

[chrome knot]

its funny as fuck

i love it

[bold geode]

I mean slay queen

[plain drum]

[dull ibex]

ew gross DOLLARMONKE

oh dollar im running that rain team btw

[foggy lodge]

KEANU DAY 2 LET'S FUCKING GO

[balmy glen]

0-2 to 6-2 gaming

[bold geode]

Good shit Keanu

[bold geode]

Ok

[placid mist]

Does anyone have feedback on my team
https://pokepast.es/22573f3023ec29d6

before i go build it in violet

[bold geode]

My feedback is to test it in Showdown before you build it

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/one-punch-man-genos-cool-explosion-rise-up-gif-14424982

[solid frigate]

Keanu is on the roll

[foggy lodge]

looks weird but idk what is weird about i

like idk

Too reg F/reg G shaped idk

[dense latch]

clefairy in the first slot looks weird

is it just me