competitive_discussion

[polar nest]

I dont dis on people who use already made concepts tho

but I prefer to add something a bit interesting

[rustic mountain]

u can do off meta picks but u cant jus throw shit at a wall and expect it to stick w/o a rhyme or reason

[polar nest]

ik

[rustic mountain]

like it being unique isnt necessarily enough

[polar nest]

Goth kinda works tho

[polar nest]

I learned that the hard way

[rustic mountain]

yea i think u gta jus reimagine the tr mode, egg makes it weird

[chrome knot]

i put meta junk together and it worked

[rustic mountain]

u put good mons together tho lmao

[chrome knot]

[polar nest]

Ok Imma do that

[chrome knot]

i jhst need to re evaluate incin spread

[rustic mountain]

not bulky enough?

[chrome knot]

im unsure

it feels yes at times

look dm

[rustic mountain]

ok

[polar nest]

maybe? https://pokepast.es/bf493834554fb924

k im going to sleep

[light stirrup]

Which urashifu was the good one in comp?

Cant remember

[lofty tartan]

Both?

[rustic mountain]

watershifu def been more dominant but both are good

[light stirrup]

Thanks. I just caught one in the DLC and got both Evo items from the auction. I figured I'd give it a try whenever it's allowed again

[rustic mountain]

probably yea

[lofty tartan]

[rustic mountain]

damn now my response looks completely out of context cuz u edited

[light stirrup]

My bad

[waxen dock]

Are ohko moves banned in vgc?

[chrome knot]

no

[rustic mountain]

lmao its fine

[rustic mountain]

fissure dozo jus got top 4 at laic

[cyan smelt]

was that the team with coaching sneasler and scale shot bax?

[light stirrup]

I used fissure ting lu like a pleb

[rustic mountain]

https://cut-explorer.stalruth.dev/2025/international-latin-america

ur thinking #4 im talkin the #3 team which still gets grouped in with being top 4

[cyan smelt]

i think it was cybertron or james baek who featured a dozo team with scale shot bax and coaching sneasler

[mighty stump]

Fissurelax the GOAT

[torn parrot]

AAAAAA

I GOT TWO SHINY FEMALE SNEASLERS

okay no fucking wonder i keep encountering these pieces of shit on ladder

gonna have a l

little ladder break

[atomic portal]

@torn parrot

https://youtu.be/rH8x6X8Fv7k?feature=shared

[cyan smelt]

yesssss gliscor

[molten oasis]

lol yea it won the most recent regional

I have tuned out of the format, Zard was enough for me

[cyan smelt]

is it worth reviewing my wins as well as my losses via parsrs?

[solid frigate]

i saw the Reg G teams above i wanna puke

[cyan smelt]

why

[solid frigate]

[cyan smelt]

i wonder if water shuriken archaludon will make a comeback

[knotty mirage]

I say highly likely i already seen good amount of bullet seed rilla archaludon so it's possible

[solid frigate]

as a Greninja fan

It has Potential but would not be mainstream

[cyan smelt]

should i play some more matches

[cyan smelt]

ok people are getting way too tricky now, gallade shadow sneak into side slot armarouge wp

[cyan smelt]

hmmm, seems like av 4 moves gambit is the new thing with assurance

[next stump]

not as important, but if you have the time then yes

[cyan smelt]

i'll do that tomorrow then

need to see where i can improve my plays

[devout mist]

That's a smart combo

I can attest that reviewing your own games no matter what the game is (not just Pokemon) helps a lot.

It's a solid truth in any competitive environment.

[solid frigate]

how's the Damage tho

just use Beat up it also works

[cyan smelt]

Yeah if you use beat up it'd be faster

[solid frigate]

i'd would say weak armor is a bit weird but its interesting

[cyan smelt]

I've also seen u-turn ape

[solid frigate]

yep it exists

[cyan smelt]

Should I change gliscor's item to choice band

[lone spindle]

What is the most threatening weather type in the format right now and why

[solid frigate]

Rain and Sun

[lone spindle]

Why

[dusty imp]

I want to build a competitive team with Sylveon because it’s my favourite, I’m not sure what to have as the other 5 Pokémon. I would really like other eeveelutions in there but not sure if that would work. What’s the best team with sylveon? I prefer cute Pokémon please

[next stump]

basculegion/archaludon and torkoal/charizard are really good

[solid frigate]

i actually have a Sylveon Team,i think Garchomp and P2 are alright with it

combo with Incineroar and Two Flex Options

[solid frigate]

add to the point that lots of Pokemon are flexible with Sun and Rain making them more dominant

[real prairie]

I have just discovered stomp does double damage on minimised targets and never misses

[south shuttle]

Minimize is banned though

Aren’t evasion moves banned?

[real prairie]

No

Not in vgc

[south shuttle]

Ah vgc

Now you lost me

[real prairie]

I mean it doesn't have much use as stomp is meh

But cool to know

[chrome knot]

sorry but like 90% of people here play vgc

[south shuttle]

I’m part of the 10%

Who plays nat dex singles

🙂

[chrome knot]

you lost me at nat dex singles

[craggy dagger]

[wary juniper]

whats the regulation rn

[solid frigate]

H

but its almost gonna be dead in december

[chrome knot]

explodes

[craggy dagger]

no exploding
leave that part to me

[knotty mirage]

Almost time when i can finally use my beloved urshifu again

[bold geode]

Me with a ghost hat on:

[wary juniper]

why is my communication ending due to an error why cant i play the game

[next stump]

do you have a picture of the error? is it happening mid battle or when you try to connect to the internet?

[wary juniper]

cant send a picture

its error code: 2-ALZXA-0007

trying to add a rental

[next stump]

like you’re uploading your own rental team?

[wary juniper]

im renting

[chrome knot]

@next stump u going to sac?

[next stump]

no too expensive 😦

[chrome knot]

[wary juniper]

please help

i had this bug many times but its first time that it wont go away

[lofty tartan]

It's not a bug - the error code you're receiving is a simple server error.

Reset your internet and try renting the team again.

There's not really much help other people are going to be able to give you beyond that.

There's a space for "Anything Else" beneath these codes. 2-ALXYA-0007 should be server error.

[spiral ridge]

Explosion BM when so I can hit everything

[pallid hare]

No one expects the exploding bear

[chrome knot]

me with pixilate:

[bold geode]

Me as a string cheese man:

[chrome knot]

u already committed to tera ghost

we explode now

[pallid hare]

https://tenor.com/view/hank-explode-gif-5592816

[bold geode]

That's what my dumbass gets for running Tera Ghost Gholdengo

[solid frigate]

he ded

[polar nest]

I wanna make this work but don't know how
https://pokepast.es/5c971da19869e54f

[torn parrot]

a perish song user i guess

[polar nest]

ok

good idea

thx

js dont know what to do after that

and as for the user

wigglytuff maybe?

[solid frigate]

w h a t
t h e
f u c k
a r e
y o u
c o o k i n g

[polar nest]

umm

Exeggutor TR sun?

I also made an arboliva version

[polar nest]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

...

[solid frigate]

idk what to say

[polar nest]

in a good or bad way?

[solid frigate]

bad way.

[polar nest]

crap

why do i ever try to teambuild ):

[next stump]

someone already made a very successful exeggutor sun team

[polar nest]

ik

[next stump]

have you tried using it to see how it works? that’ll give you inspiration for a different version

[polar nest]

hmm

maybe I should do that

im leaning more into harvest than chlorophyll tho

thats why i used alolan, for better defensive typing

and i wasnt lookin for psyspam

I tried psyspam and failed with it alot

which regional was the exeggutor team made again?

oh yea louisville

[polar nest]

https://pokepast.es/d1b2d7706ee9bb6d

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-gif-20062805

[foggy lodge]

someone here knows why this season suddenly increased the Championship points a lot compared to 2024 season?

[polar nest]

idk

[foggy lodge]

thanks

[next stump]

they reduced the amount that locals matter but really emphasized large tournaments like regionals and ICs

[foggy lodge]

ohhh

So regionals matter a lot more and i suppose the thing of the only for example best 75 players of each region was also a reason

[polar nest]

thinking about adding lilligant-hisui to this

[next stump]

yes, large tournaments matter a lot more and it all plays into their top 75 goal

[foggy lodge]

uhh okok, thanks

[torn parrot]

okay i think I'm all weakness policy armarouged out

time for something new

[torn parrot]

you know its really crazy how different the meta is now from the start of reg H

pretty cool

[chrome knot]

when the meta develops :OOOO

[torn parrot]

A fuckin chad the guy who got first place

[dull ibex]

I have learned I dont like pokemon fangames or clones

it just makes me miss official games

[south shuttle]

🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

[rustic mountain]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2247375950-n9psgo6gahwhnakiybdjwlisepmd1aipw
well this was close

[cyan smelt]

It's always funny seeing two of the same pokemon with zoroark

[rustic mountain]

haha yea

[cyan smelt]

Then it's not so funny when it uses hyper voice

[rustic mountain]

its more a nuisance to me then anything else

once i know where its at its generally fine and i figured if they brought it theyd lead it, i jus targetted peli cuz i knew that was actually a pelipper since its ability went off, after t1 icy wind and the swap it was p easy to identify haha

[cyan smelt]

Yeah the trick is identifying the zoroark, I remember I think I struggled once with a psyspam team because they led Indeedee and what I thought was exeggutor

[mighty stump]

Just hit and KO both slots

[cyan smelt]

Spread moves good

[rustic mountain]

https://media.tenor.com/jRhv4G-uAjIAAAAM/231.gif

[mighty stump]

If it doesn’t work, it’s because Gholdengo needs to be a Dark-type!!! Since Whimsicott is a Fairy-type, it can naturally help out Dark-type Pokemon!!!

[cyan smelt]

Does helping hand work on gholdengo

Idt it does

[knotty mirage]

It will if weezing is on the field

[rustic mountain]

thats the joke and it doubles down cause prankster moves also dont affect dark types

[cyan smelt]

Damn I'm really not a joke getter

[cyan smelt]

Tinkaton is the exception because it knows mold breaker + hh

[dull ibex]

you are so toxic, toxic tofu

https://pokepast.es/1bed1ff8f03567cd am i cooking so far?

[mighty stump]

Lmao

[dull ibex]

is this super basic?

[mighty stump]

No to your todic coment I have nothing to say about your paste I havent been playing

[dull ibex]

ah ok

[molten oasis]

Almost like there’s better things to do

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/bdb43b06b5eafd73 full team

[mighty stump]

I’m shopping for perfume

[molten oasis]

Yea that seems better lol

Cool perfume bottle

[mighty stump]

Beat Up just for Archa seems like a waste of a moveslot btw

[molten oasis]

You pop bomb

[mighty stump]

I’d prefer Pop

[molten oasis]

Great typo lol

[mighty stump]

Disastrous typo

[molten oasis]

Indeed it was

Back to metaphor

[dull ibex]

do I friend guard wide lens?

or go offensive maus

[mighty stump]

Wide Lens FG is fine

[dull ibex]

sick

my friend mentioned wanting to use maus arch tech and likes chomp

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2247446802

[knotty mirage]

I really want to try the loaded dice bullet seed rilla with arch is it good idea tho ?

[cyan smelt]

Thanks for reminding me red, I should calc if p2 lives a pop bomb and a max def arch body press

[solid frigate]

Yeeet

[dull ibex]

I kinda love this team

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2247448488

https://pokepast.es/ddb9f778790d4dd1 finialized team

[cyan smelt]

Why didn't they go pop bomb into arch

[dull ibex]

which turn

turn 5 they couldnt I followed me

[cyan smelt]

Nvm I don't see why they didn't dragon pulse or Draco your chomp after the electro shot

[mighty stump]

I HAVE BEEN BLESSED

[molten oasis]

Congrats

[cyan smelt]

Dayum

These are my rarest

[solid frigate]

THE SNORLAX IS RETRIEVED

[cyan smelt]

V nice

[mighty stump]

MY SON HAS COME HOME

[cyan smelt]

I got the zapdos ex, Venusaur ex, and wigglytuff ex as well and Articuno ex and lapras ex

[patent marsh]

Pog

I got charizard ex, mewtwo ex, wigglytuff ex, dragonite, blaine, lapras stramie ex, prime ape marowak ex, exeggutor ex, decks currently working on pikachu ex

Oh ye also got alakazam deck and machamp ex deck

[cyan smelt]

Pog

[real prairie]

Mine

[solid frigate]

damn

[craggy dagger]

am i the only one not getting pikachu

[solid frigate]

at least you get cards

i did not download the app lmao

[molten oasis]

Here are mine

Oh the ex’s oops

Here’s mine

[south shuttle]

The worst punishment

[cyan smelt]

Does everyone get marowak ex as default

[patent marsh]

no just everyone pulled on charizard

cause charizard is overall the best pack for making decks

[cyan smelt]

I'm gonna start pulling zard from now on, it's got starmie ex in it which I need

[foggy lodge]

I opened the game because y'all were showing the cards and got the Mewtwo😭

This are my cards rn

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-damn-damn-damn-damn-right-dame-time-gif-18029769

[mighty stump]

yall defo have better rng

[chrome knot]

tofu

i finished my challenges bfl now i can torture my friends with stuff like this :3

https://pokepast.es/9d8313ad4fde6e66

[real prairie]

Mine probably the cheer number of packs ive opened, I used the free trial and every reward ive had on hourglasses

[mighty stump]

Oh I havent even used the free trial

I like to think I pioneered this

[solid frigate]

Double Steel lets goooo

[spiral ridge]

Double steel and no fighting weakness

[chrome knot]

https://pokepast.es/49e92d2a04e5e846

alright im so ready for my locals.

[dull ibex]

🤔

[spiral ridge]

Tinkaton let’s fucking go

[inland loom]

How does upper hand work?

[chrome knot]

if opponent uses priority move, you go before them and flinch

[knotty mirage]

Can't really stop fake out sometimes because they have same priority bracket

[tiny karma]

Move: Upper Hand

Has a 100% chance to make the target flinch. Fails if the target did not select a priority move for use this turn, or if the target moves before the user.

Type

Fighting

Category

Physical

Power

65

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

15 (24)

Priority

3

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[chrome knot]

just be faster

[knotty mirage]

Yeah not many thing can outspeed sneasler

[rustic mountain]

upper hand sucks

[chrome knot]

yes

[knotty mirage]

Can agree with that

[rustic mountain]

cool concept but it just isnt consistent or effective especially bo3

[solid frigate]

Its fucking time

I'm gonna sign up for Birmingham

[chrome knot]

isnt registration already open

[solid frigate]

its up so yeah and i just signed up

[chrome knot]

dubs

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/miraidon-pokemon-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-dance-toothless-gif-5811329944095029800

[chrome knot]

turns you into spaghetti

@balmy glen lemme in im cool girl

[balmy glen]

what

[bleak spruce]

I’m going to Sacramento and I’m not ready at all

[chrome knot]

serber :3

[next stump]

do you have a team?

[balmy glen]

See u there

[bold geode]

Hai bestie

[torn parrot]

Tried giving black clover another chance

It was horrible after one episode

[tiny peak]

When we go back to reg g, I get only one restricted mon, but are hisuian like sneasler, and paradox mons allowed alongside the restricted?

[next stump]

yes they are

[tiny peak]

@next stump ok thanks cause it's worded weird on the all the sites lol

[gentle crag]

ryukage118 has given 1 Gen Rep to mlbd

[next stump]

no worries 🙂

[bleak spruce]

A few I’ve been trying. I felt good with a TR psychic terrain team but lately it just gets shut down early

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-gif-13767303

[next stump]

atlanta regional hmm

[chrome knot]

$400 round trip or 11 hour car ride

i fear there is no good ending for me

[rustic mountain]

ur first mistake

giving black clover a chance

[next stump]

i’m assuming atlanta means no orlando

[rustic mountain]

dw i made the same mistake

[chrome knot]

id assume so asw

[rustic mountain]

prolly yea

[torn parrot]

😔

[next stump]

still one more TBD regional right?

[rustic mountain]

iirc yea

[chrome knot]

ye

[torn parrot]

Another reg H?

[rustic mountain]

no

[chrome knot]

no

[torn parrot]

Awe

[chrome knot]

we done reg h afta toromto

[torn parrot]

goodbye H

[rustic mountain]

its been fun

[torn parrot]

Really fun

Super fun

until next gen

[chrome knot]

im unsure which reg ive done best in now tbh

toronto will be the decider lol

[next stump]

what was reg F?

[chrome knot]

what

oh is there supposed to be a ,

[next stump]

no, was there a reg F and what was it? i don’t remember

[rustic mountain]

reg f was indigo disk so new dlc mons + paradox mons

[chrome knot]

what da

[next stump]

was that the one that was January-March

[chrome knot]

yes

[next stump]

or whenever

I liked Reg E and F

[rustic mountain]

dillon: its all been a blur

[next stump]

LOL yeah

so much urshifu

[rustic mountain]

[bleak spruce]

Reg F was my first reg. I hit masters every reg but this is my first tournament

[rustic mountain]

series 1 was regional minus paradox and ruins legends
series 2 brought paradox in
reg c brought ruin legends in
reg d was home mons allowed
reg e was teal mask
reg f indigo disk
reg g 1 restricted
reg h everything allowed up to that point minus restricted, legends and paradox mons

[strange fjord]

what if worlds is reg h just to mess with people

[rustic mountain]

i think ppl would like that but looks like worlds will prolly be dual restricted

[next stump]

good luck! tournaments are the most fun you can have

[rustic mountain]

if it keeps current timetable itll be reg g till may then may-sept would be dual restricted

then post worlds b/s format then carries over till end of the year for gen 10 release

[torn parrot]

I’m guessing the shiny rayquaza is to celebrate the return of G

[rustic mountain]

it has to do w/ the anime

[torn parrot]

O

I wanna watch the anime before Gen 9 ends

It looks really good

[rustic mountain]

ive seen some clips the animation is fire

[bleak spruce]

Thank you! I’m not expecting much but the fun is what matters

[gentle crag]

thingken has given 1 Gen Rep to mlbd

[torn parrot]

Pokemon without ash is refreshing

I still gotta only watch the end of journeys

[rustic mountain]

like ash winning? or post winning

[torn parrot]

The tournament and like ||ust him becoming a pokemon master finally||

For closure so I can go into the next one

[next stump]

Great mindset to have. 99% of players have a rough first tournament, so just play out all of your rounds and make some friends

[bleak spruce]

I’m having rough prep I tanked from 1400 to 1008 on showdown in a week

[rustic mountain]

him winning doesnt mean he becomes a pokemon master 😉

ull see

but yea the tournament has some good fights, really some of the only parts of journeys i watched

[torn parrot]

Before reg H ends I should work on a best of 3 team and enter some limitless tours for fun just to get the max enjoyment out of this reg

[torn parrot]

Dam

[rustic mountain]

its a good thing lol

[torn parrot]

I’ll still watch it

[next stump]

that’s tough LOL, I’ve been there before. Showdown can be so mentally draining

I will say this though

my best regional result came during a regulation where I was struggling to break like 1400-1500 on the ladder

[rustic mountain]

ive seen the same from other good players too

terrible ladder placement/streak w/ the team and they bring it to the regional and do really well

[torn parrot]

I’m an addict

I get sucked in and then I get my soul drained

[bleak spruce]

I’ve only gone above 1400 twice. I dipped back down to 1200, got back up into mid 1400s then threw it all away

[torn parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/burnout-tired-no-energy-stressed-out-finished-gif-11987324

I’m like

[foggy lodge]

nah don't worry

[torn parrot]

“Yayyyy I reached my goall, hmmm but now I’m so close to my next goal, hmmm can’t end on a loss, hmmmm that win wasn’t good enough to end on, hmmm I fell a bit I can’t end now have to get back up, hmmmm”

[foggy lodge]

A friend didn't make it past 1400 ladder in showdown and then got top 16 at a regional xd

Showdown helps a lot to practice but it can change a lot how you play too

[torn parrot]

It’s okay elo is always fleeting

[foggy lodge]

Just focus on being comfortable with the team

[torn parrot]

I agree

But

Creators are often overtly doubtful/critical of their work

Or at least me

I’m like damn did I really make the choice here, then spend hours testing just to not make any chamges

Then my head hurts

[foggy lodge]

idk if i find something i like i just spam it without making changes

The Koraidon team remained without changes until post world during like a month and a half

And the change was just making Whimsicott cloak light screen

[bleak spruce]

I’m not comfortable with any team

[foggy lodge]

i think it depends because with some teams i know when its just me playing bad and just the team having struggles

[bleak spruce]

I’m probably most comfortable with trick room but I keep running into hard counters, at least on showdown

[foggy lodge]

what's your team?

[bleak spruce]

Indeedee, hatterene, ursaluna, torkoal. Last two are some sort of fast mode or support. I’ve tried Charizard, scarf ape with final gambit, sneasler

[foggy lodge]

what do you think about Exeggutor

I think there was a scarf Charizard + psyspam team that did well at a regional

[torn parrot]

That’s just my perfectionist addict brain

It’s unnecessary

Phew

I also wanan play some best of 3 before reg H ends

At some point

[dense latch]

why is this so relatable lmao

[real prairie]

@mighty stump

[next stump]

https://youtu.be/tl0Or4YgUAI

[torn parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/nichijou-anime-handshake-bros-shake-hands-gif-12270042

[rustic mountain]

been meaning to check their channel out. assuming u watched the vid its solid?

[next stump]

I watched the first part so far, it’s really good

[placid mist]

Hello would anyone wanna play in a vgc tournament for fun with me and my friends we need more people

[bleak spruce]

I tried both they just never work for me

[hasty fossil]

hello

[next stump]

hello

[solid frigate]

hoi

[stray badger]

How broken would the game's balancing be if all 3 gimmicks were in the same game (but you could only use one at a time)?

So still the same once per battle limit, but you could choose which gimmick you wanted to use

[rustic mountain]

every1 would jus pick dmax

among other reasons i jus wouldnt see that being fun or working

[next stump]

dynamax Gholdengo

[solid frigate]

Zacian Stonks:

[rustic mountain]

terapagos stonks:

i wonder what the next gimmick will be

some ppl think they r gna start recycling gimmicks now

[dense latch]

i do wonder what’s left to do

[rustic mountain]

fusion maybe

[dense latch]

i’d love to see that even if it’s limited to only a few pokemon

[rustic mountain]

yea i feel itd have to be

which makes it weird/unplausible

[dense latch]

yeah

[cyan smelt]

iron valiant is already a fusion of gallade and gardevoir and roaring moon is already a fusion of salamence and mega salamence

[dense latch]

it’d certainly be flashy enough to sell games for them

[rustic mountain]

yea i mean megas were limited too so its not completely out there

i just dont know how itd work cuz if its doubles do u jus only have 1 mon on the field then? nd how would u achieve it in singles

[stray badger]

What if there was only Gigantamax then?

[dense latch]

maybe it’d give you the prompt to switch in another mon for doubles, singles maybe just let you choose any pokemon out of a list of your current party

[rustic mountain]

jus seems awkward

[dense latch]

fair

[stray badger]

I mean fusion is already a thing, it's just different forms and also kinda Dondozo

[rustic mountain]

all matches become different omni boost psuedo dozo matches

[foggy lodge]

i mean technically they have done a lot with the already existing universal mechanics for the pokemon

they've already done things with changing types, transformations, super powerful moves, and those transformations and powerful moves both in one xd, and those gimmicks already interacted with the items

Gems were technically a gimmick too but not "restricted" like the newer ones, so yeah p much they have already done everything

Other thing would be something like 5th move or two abilities? But they really need the gimmicks to be visually interesting so idk

[molten oasis]

Y

[patent marsh]

Gmax/dmax moves are pretty busted especially all the good ones have no drawbacks

Plus gmax charizard would be a no brainer for most teams :dentjj:

[molten oasis]

[patent marsh]

Cause removes the one thing keeping flying balanced which is giving it a strong accurate special flying move with no draw backs

[molten oasis]

Man good thing I will not play dmax formats, I think

[patent marsh]

Bring it back with megas, z moves, tera with no restrictions make the game as chaotic as possibly

[patent marsh]

Yea I didn't start til SV :caught:

But I vaguely remembering people complaining about dmax

[molten oasis]

I like Tera

Let’s just stick with Tera and for a break megas how about that

[patent marsh]

Max airstream also being the only offensive stat boosting max move without the multiplier nerf like fighting and poison's contributed to the problem

[cyan smelt]

Double your HP and can give a speed boost or change the weather or do tons of chip yeah what's not to love

[rustic mountain]

double health w/ generally good debuffs/buffs for u and ur partners

[cyan smelt]

Or change terrain

[rustic mountain]

blows the others out the water

[patent marsh]

Dmax had a lot of oversights in general

[molten oasis]

So let’s just stick with Tera

[patent marsh]

In terms of balancing

[molten oasis]

But then ban it off of the restricteds cuz CSR with Tera is stupid

Back to metaphor

[patent marsh]

Then terapagos would be unplayable

[molten oasis]

Womp womp

Sacrifices must be made

[rustic mountain]

terapagos has more use case then jus beating csr which it doesnt even always do

w/o tera tho yea itll b like zacian and jus get worse

[molten oasis]

The Psyshock variants could ruin some pagos’s days

Notably the calm mind Pagos sets

Plus we’ve seen how much specs starstrom does without Tera

Idt it’s THAT bad without Tera but it would get worse

[rustic mountain]

why not jus use like any other better sp atker tho

csr ogre lunala etc

[molten oasis]

Bulk

Tera shell’s a good ability

[cyan smelt]

How common is it for terapagos to run something like flamethrower or earth power to deal with stuff like Zama and get around wide guard

[molten oasis]

Better restricteds fs tho

Zac would be better if Tera wasn’t a mechanic cuz it be actually good into CIR

[rustic mountain]

yea u see my point

its stats b4 tera arent great even w/ a solid ability

[molten oasis]

Cuz then it can’t remove its weakness lol

600 for a restricted is underwhelming

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 1024: Terapagos-Terastal

Type

Normal

Abilities

Tera Shell

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

95/95/110/105/110/85

Total

600

Base Species

Terapagos

Sableye version 4.28.1

[molten oasis]

Damn ok I forgot how not great those stats are

It has like bulk going for it

Maybe that’s a part of why it fell off late reg g

Needs Tera to be at its fullest which could need to go elsewhere

[rustic mountain]

compared to its 700 bst wen tera'd even moreso

[molten oasis]

Mhmm

[rustic mountain]

its not gna be good

miraidon will be tho

[molten oasis]

After SV it’s gonna be mid/bad lol

[cyan smelt]

Maybe they'll buff it like they buffed Zama

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

How

Just make the 700 BST it’s normal stats?

[cyan smelt]

Idk I'm sure they'll figure something out, maybe yeah buff its stats

They can't leave it as a 600 bst legendary

Especially when it's the flagship mon of the sv dlc

[molten oasis]

All I want is shifu nerfs (it needs to happen) and zac/zama’s abilities or stats to revert back to what they were

I say both cuz they would have to do it for both

[cyan smelt]

Csr needs nerf

[molten oasis]

Zac having 170 attack would probably give it a better reason to exist within a meta

[cyan smelt]

Just let Zama keep body press please

[molten oasis]

Idt they’ll get rid of body press

[cyan smelt]

I agree let zacian live

[patent marsh]

They'll make terapagos have an item to insta tera it in the next game

[molten oasis]

Ogerpon just doesn’t get theirs then lol

[patent marsh]

Or make it proc at half hp

[molten oasis]

That’s a crazy ability

Makes all damage NVE and also gets a major stat boost at half hp lol

[cyan smelt]

Like zygarde transforming into a Gundam

The words you sense the presence of many give me PTSD flashbacks

[molten oasis]

lol

[patent marsh]

🤷‍♂️ gotta do something since terapagos too tied up with tera

It's either one that's plausible

[cyan smelt]

Form change at half hp makes sense

[patent marsh]

Or they just ignore terapagos for good and let it die into obscurity with next game

[cyan smelt]

They'll probably dex cut legends again

[patent marsh]

I don't think so

Gen 6 legs got dex cut cause yveltal and xerneas having tera would be unbalanced and probably used it as an excuse for not having their textures updated

Next gen most things should already have their textures updated

[bold geode]

They'd have to rework it to make it any good
Same with Ogerpon

[cyan smelt]

What about the tapus, ig they didn't want to overshadow the new legends and tapus are tied up with UBs as well

[bold geode]

Me clicking Tera Ghost into a Max Knuckle

[patent marsh]

To be fair most people used gmaxs and the good max moves like airstream

[rustic mountain]

i think ogerpon will b fine

defiant, mold breaker, sturdy, water absorb are all fine-good abilties

no stat change w/ tera for them

[torn parrot]

its a stress day today

[mighty stump]

just dont be stressed

[torn parrot]

thank you fam, im cured

[gentle crag]

mayahoppins has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu

[mighty stump]

works every time

anw i just cried after watching Arcane

[molten oasis]

Cool, I will not be watching Arcane

[torn parrot]

nooooooo

its like the best ever

its a masterpiece

https://tenor.com/view/jinx-chad-arcane-league-of-legends-mewing-gif-14157344817191900030

https://tenor.com/view/cait-caitlyn-arcane-chad-league-of-legends-gif-12072579478130860473

https://tenor.com/view/ekko-arcane-chad-league-of-legends-gif-5103514844172529980

[molten oasis]

It’s linked to league, so no

[torn parrot]

i dont even play league

i quit like 7 years ago

riot says that

or rather they have said in the past

they want the league chaarcters and stories to be something kinda like marvel or dc characters, where they are just like pop culture icons

outside of the videogame

[dull ibex]

Barely

[torn parrot]

its like

i think flash is cool

[dull ibex]

It's based off the champions in League of Legends and that's about it

[molten oasis]

The characters are from league close enough

[torn parrot]

but i have never read a flash comic ever

[dull ibex]

I think you should reevaluate this tank and just not watch it cuz you're not interested. Not at spite

[molten oasis]

Nah

[torn parrot]

):

[molten oasis]

Back to metaphor

[dull ibex]

Okay be a baby I guess

[torn parrot]

its a such a masterpiece

[molten oasis]

Have you met me?

[dull ibex]

I'm not watching arcane because not interested

[torn parrot]

understandable

[dull ibex]

I also don't get the hate for League of Legends anymore

League isn't even the most toxic game I've been on. Probably not top five

[molten oasis]

Ok I’m not interested in it, if thats what makes ya happy, anyway

[dull ibex]

Call of duty is way worse to be honest

[torn parrot]

i think its just a competitive game trend

they're all pretty toxic

[dull ibex]

P vgc is pretty cool

[torn parrot]

well that is true

pokemon comunity holds back a lot of toxicity

its still there

just less so than others

because i think they just like the pokemon

[dull ibex]

I wouldn't go that far

This channel specifically can get pretty toxic

I think it's a different kind of toxic

[torn parrot]

yeah thats absolutely for real

[dull ibex]

ive been part of it

telling people their idea is shit is toxic

(even if true sometimes)

[torn parrot]

honestly i think your the first person to outright say it here

[dull ibex]

sy what

[torn parrot]

like that there toxicity in this channel

but ye i agree

[dull ibex]

I mean its the truth

we are a bit elitist at times and can be toxic at certain times

it used to be VERY toxic in here

[torn parrot]

yeesh, well its good that its gotten better

[dull ibex]

sadly we still have to deal with dollar

jk jk

[cyan smelt]

won 11 out of 14 with this new team

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2248123077 why'd they leave, they were in a winning position?

[torn parrot]

might have just disconnected

[cyan smelt]

the zard team is a real problem for my team

[torn parrot]

the zard team is super annoying

its the sleep powers

those an x factpr

[cyan smelt]

i need to go back to tera dark on gambit

gliscor and a9 actually have really good synergy, a9 doesn't like taking fire type attacks and gliscor doesn't like water or grass

also blizzard gets some clutch freezes

[dull ibex]

had someone do this too

[red willow]

So what is a team of dragonite incineroar sneasler primarina gholdengo and rillaboom supposed to do into pelliper/arch lmao or is that just a bad MU prolly

[cyan smelt]

hit it really hard

[red willow]

I mean the only super effective move I have on my team for arch is cc from sneasler and not sure if thats enough to ohko it lol

[cyan smelt]

sneasler hits really hard

[torn parrot]

sometimes it is

if its admament its pretty common to kill it if its jolly its more iffy if the arch is bulky

but thats often why the jolly ones have sash

[red willow]

For sure mine is adamant so Ill see how it shakes out lol

[inland loom]

Who’s better competitively armorouge or ceruledge?

[torn parrot]

um

they play extremely different but armarouge is connected to a stronger strategy in doubles

but ceruledge can be great on the right team

his sustainability with bulk ups, bitter blade, and flash fire + tera can make him annoying to remove

if armarouge didnt have exanding force it would probably wouldnt be used very much in doubles

i coudl see it doing fine without exanding force in singles tho

iv seen those endure sets they use

[cyan smelt]

just lost to tera fairy arch with protect wtf

[inland loom]

Is typhlosion a better specs mom or scarf mon

[cyan smelt]

now lum berry gambit wtf

can't believe i lost to lum berry gambit

[solid frigate]

Depends

Usually i'd go for Scarf but Specs is alr

[torn parrot]

i think it depends wether your tailwind or not

[balmy glen]

I am running the Charizard team at Sacramento this weekend wish me luck

[cyan smelt]

god i'm sick of these bo1 teams

[torn parrot]

gl fammm

[patent marsh]

real and based

god speed

[balmy glen]

My jumpluff when it hits sun and tailwind

[torn parrot]

have the evs been released

or are you making your own up

[balmy glen]

I have the original paste but it hasn’t been released I don’t think

Time to learn the team in day

[cyan smelt]

i still don't know if i should go to perth and idk what to take if i do

[real prairie]

Testing the waters with Donzogiri

[cyan smelt]

and valiant

and roaring moon

this team is ass i think i'll scrap it

[cyan smelt]

I need to figure out how to enable gliscor to do what it does

[solid frigate]

I’m suprised you still haven’t asked Nova about it,She tested Gliscor before

[mighty stump]

Be cracked at the game. Hope that helps

[dull ibex]

how does arch peli deal with the mirror

[dull ibex]

vc? toxic tofu

[knotty mirage]

Boy trying out sandstorm team is like the most miserable experience i ever had when playing on in game ladder

[cyan smelt]

I can't be cracked with the game when I'm struggling with brain fog

[dull ibex]

https://discord.com/channels/663661005514997770/1309102465425084436

[dull ibex]

MOOD

[knotty mirage]

This reg sucks i always lose to the same thing being sneasler archuladon garchomp and dhengo

[dull ibex]

im hype for restricted

zama seems like more interesting then set up arch

[bold geode]

@dull ibex open up plz

[dull ibex]

one sec

[tranquil kraken]

NOOOO CHARCADET MY BABY

[mighty stump]

[tranquil kraken]

[chrome knot]

its like psyspam u got this xd

[torn parrot]

Dang that’s true

That is left

I’m sure they could also like

Just find bullshit ways to give mons basic power ups

“This is my goobie stone it gives my pokemon the power of the gabaguk god and ups all their attacks by 1.5”

[mighty stump]

Go the digimon route and use Armor Eggs or whatever it was called

Lol

[torn parrot]

Whoopsie

[mighty stump]

Time to have Armor Pokemon and have it always add a Steel-type and idk

Some shit

[torn parrot]

Ohh like
It literally just gives mons power up armor in the same way or something like that

[mighty stump]

ig

Time to introduce triple types

[torn parrot]

I can see like special power up stones like the digimon armor

[mighty stump]

Yea

Basically a cheap ass version of mega evolution but it can apply to all mons lmao

[gentle badger]

which urshifu is better?

[dull ibex]

OMG that name

[chrome knot]

team dependent but on average rapid strike is better

[gentle badger]

I only have one Kubfu

[chrome knot]

ok

[mint void]

used a ceruledge team to go from unranked to master ball

[torn parrot]

Nice job 👍

[mint void]

im happy that he is so good

real cool mon

[chrome knot]

mayaaa mayaaaaa

good mornie

[torn parrot]

Heyyyyyyyy good morning!

[mint void]

https://pokepast.es/6df4c60a2e48de74

The men

[gentle badger]

so which one should I get?

[mint void]

Van give u a second

[bleak spruce]

Touched down in Sac. Time to put a team together

[torn parrot]

Looks really good tbh

[mint void]

bulk up > SD

[next stump]

good luck!

[bleak spruce]

I think I just need to make a fast mode work. Maybe murkrow for sun, tailwind, and if I don’t have terrain then quash

[torn parrot]

What’s the team

[bleak spruce]

I’m leaning toward psyspam but not final yet

[torn parrot]

Sounds fun (: hope your team goes well

[torn parrot]

Chat

REVIVE

https://tenor.com/view/cat-revive-friends-animated-friendship-gif-8246087956711984034

[mint void]

https://pokepast.es/c4005f0b8d27a05c

There

Do sth with that

Not a fan of torterra AND trevenant but trevenant has to stay

https://pokepast.es/0c998ca00398bbb8

Diff option

[chrome knot]

o hell no 😭

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

nova

[torn parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/kasumi-love-live-love-live-kasumi-punch-anime-punch-gif-19285337

[mint void]

@chrome knot how does one get raid muted?

[chrome knot]

ur literally trade muted

[mint void]

Yeah im just curious how it happened

[craggy dagger]

[mint void]

Just showed a guy who asked me who the OT of my none OT mons are who the OTs are. Didnt check blacklist first. Also didnt think it would be bad since he asked :( sadge

FAFO i guess

[chrome knot]

i was mean lol thats all

[mint void]

Rough

[chrome knot]

meh

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

@craggy dagger my estrogen dosage went up today

[ivory imp]

I'm kinda new to competitive pokemon, could anybody tell me if my team is good or any improvements I could make

[craggy dagger]

[ivory imp]

rules are gen9 ubers

also minimize is banned I should fix that

[mint void]

@ivory imp can you send a poke paste

[ivory imp]

a what? sorry

[mint void]

If you ho on teambuilder then sroll down all the way you can upload the team

[chrome knot]

teehee not a good thing

[mint void]

To pokepaste just aend the website link here

[ivory imp]

this?

https://pokepast.es/7c938c676c0217d3

[mint void]

@ivory imp 1st thing. Swap Black Sludge on Gliscor for Toyic Orb. Black Sludge will hurt him. toxic orb will poison him which triggers poison heal

[mint void]

Yes

[ivory imp]

ty

[gentle crag]

vyrvy has given 1 Gen Rep to lnk1603

[lofty tartan]

Everything is a defense boosting nature except Overqwil

[ivory imp]

overqwil will be scrapped as minimize is banned in ubers

[craggy dagger]

you’ll be fineeee
not like you were already struggling to cut the tablet

[lofty tartan]

Oh so this is smogon?

[chrome knot]

YOU DONT CUT ESTROGEN

[ivory imp]

also yeah you're right

[lofty tartan]

This channel is mostly for VGC, in which nothing is banned except for legendaries based on whatever regulation is on

[chrome knot]

AND I DONT CUT MY DAMN PILLS ANYMORE

[craggy dagger]

oh i misread that whoops

[ivory imp]

I got linked here from general idk

[lofty tartan]

Yeah general chat doesn't really know the difference between VGC and smogon rules xD

[stark kindle]

Weird. Its almost like competitive isn't just vgc.

[lofty tartan]

I don't know how helpful we'll be though.

[chrome knot]

all the active chatters play vgc lovely

[lofty tartan]

Weird, it's almost like no one here plays smogon rules xD

[craggy dagger]

this is why we need a singles chat that’s separate-

[chrome knot]

like what do you want from us bruh

[stark kindle]

-# I wasn't even the one that linked. Your husband ejc did

[craggy dagger]

-#

[stark kindle]

Or just learn singles to help people.

[lofty tartan]

lol

[chrome knot]

[craggy dagger]

i meannnn
i coulddddddd

[chrome knot]

what if: competitive discussion & vgc discussion

[lofty tartan]

I mean I definitely don't play VGC to help anyone so you can have all that, Latte

[chrome knot]

i hide my spreads from even irl friends so im certainly not one to help x)

little do they know 60% of my team rn is 252 mons

[stark kindle]

Yeah and then there's other toxic people don't have to be toxic when people are pointed this way for non doubles competitive help

[craggy dagger]

that’s fair

[stark kindle]

All hal Nova

Queen of Comp Char

[lofty tartan]

Who is being toxic? People being honest that they may not find much help here for singles in a channel almost exclusively populated by VGC doubles players? Lmao

This gets said here almost every day lmao

[mint void]

https://pokepast.es/ab36fee5c781f0b2@vyrvy

[chrome knot]

cant let the gimmick player be queen choose tofu instead🙏

[craggy dagger]

people just don’t want the spreads i make in general
something something it’s on a dumb pokemon-

[mint void]

@ivory imp

[chrome knot]

no bc u tried to reason no wood hammer rilla to me.

without bullet seed either

[craggy dagger]

i count this as a win-

252+ Atk Choice Band Cinccino Triple Axel (120 BP) (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 84 Def Rillaboom: 184-220 (88.8 - 106.2%) -- approx. 37.5% chance to OHKO

also no wood hammer rilla was me being stupid-

[ivory imp]

hi

[mint void]

Flaming the dude saying that comp can be aingles too while no one was having a conversation regarding vompetitve pokemon is kinda crazy

[craggy dagger]

do people run 252 atk 252 speed rilla now

[mint void]

@ivory imp https://pokepast.es/ab36fee5c781f0b2
Upgraded spreads and changed the move set on gliscor a rad but would just ignore that

[craggy dagger]

or am i just that low on ladder

[ivory imp]

thanks

[gentle crag]

vyrvy has given 1 Gen Rep to lnk1603

[mint void]

Some do I guess

But not really

[ivory imp]

now to be evil on singles

[mint void]

Why is this a win?

[chrome knot]

@craggy dagger the sound of pills rattling makes my ears perk up like im a dog

[craggy dagger]

[gentle badger]

I'm about to evolve my Kubfu.
Which Scroll should I use?

[chrome knot]

my clicker😭😭😭

[mint void]

@gentle badger water imo

Is a little better

[craggy dagger]

tbh both are super good

and do their different jobs really well

[gentle badger]

I only have one Kubfu

[mint void]

Yes. But surging strikes is a tad better cause of the multi hit imo

+dmg amp with rain+tera

[craggy dagger]

ehh
multi hit but lower base power

[lofty tartan]

Dark Ursh is really good in Reg G as well.

[craggy dagger]

the question is do you want a nuke button or a machine gun-

[lofty tartan]

A format dominated by a ghost/psychic horse.

[chrome knot]

do you want $1 or $2

[craggy dagger]

miraidon n shadow rider will prolly be more prominent now

[lofty tartan]

I want 3 dollars.

[mint void]

75 and 75?

[craggy dagger]

in total yes

[mint void]

Yeah so ends up.at same base power...

[craggy dagger]

[balmy glen]

Not really at all tbh

[chrome knot]

click buttons things explode

[craggy dagger]

like you

[mint void]

@craggy dagger actually surging strikes is stronger. Or at least: same urshifu on same zapdos=45-55 surfing strikes, 44-52 wicked blow

[craggy dagger]

i mean
ya also gotta think about type coverage

like if you already have a good water type do you need another

but sure

rapid strike is my preferred anyways cuz you can break sash and substitutes

[balmy glen]

Eh

I wouldn’t really compare them at all tbh

The sun mode isn’t even the main mode so if your defaulting to clicking your kind of using it wrong tbh

[chrome knot]

zard mixup after playing normal is free gaming

personally not a fan of bringing what won to next regional bc the path will be a bit tougher

[red willow]

Why the absolute hell is the most popular Bloodmoon Ursaluna set investing fully in speed with base 52 lmao

[mint void]

tailwind

out speeds everything but jolly Dragapult

[red willow]

I gotcha so Bloodmoon is more popular on tw teams but hisuan benefits more from tr is the general consensus?

[mint void]

nah

bloodmoon is still great in TR. Some people are just freaky and TW is often easier to set up than TR cause of prankster users

[red willow]

Right on tbh I dont have a tr team even set up yet so max speed tw it is I suppose lmao

[mint void]

https://pokepast.es/896d00a9e3c75848

fast bear in rain

[red willow]

Team looks p sweet lol my current team has a rough time with arch + pelli

[solid frigate]

Tailroom BM Ursa is used in some cases

More potent in Reg G

[shadow wind]

Wowza, team goin kinda crazy

[cyan smelt]

My team is ass

[mint void]

Womo womp

[solid frigate]

wowzers

[solid frigate]

i mean tbf you kinda start playing Reg H in the middle of its lifespan

[mint void]

And?

[foggy lodge]

both are popular in tailroom

Marco's Ursaluna in his Charizard team is made to outspeed things in tailwind and still work under trick toom

Same happens with Bloodmoon

[solid frigate]

i don't think it matters that much,everyone needs to refresh their Memory on comp

[craggy dagger]

oo which team

[torn parrot]

whats this new vgclth thing i keep seeing in front of people's names

[solid frigate]

its for a small Reg H tournament

i beat them once before

[chrome knot]

vgc ladder tournament

[torn parrot]

oh i seee

[shadow wind]

My spin on sand

Has Gastrodon

[solid frigate]

i saw that like 1-2 Weeks ago so you ain't alone

[chrome knot]

https://open.spotify.com/track/5vNRhkKd0yEAg8suGBpjeY?si=XhHsSSjxRPy4x6BHR2q4rg

@torn parrot listen somg :3

[chrome knot]

https://pokepast.es/dcee7d5e2f919106 @lofty tartan can you help me with my reg h team...

[lofty tartan]

Not enough Iron Hands

[chrome knot]

rats!

[lofty tartan]

Also not enough Boosters

[molten oasis]

[chrome knot]

@craggy dagger help me my reg h vgc team

[craggy dagger]

hi

[chrome knot]

i sent paste

[craggy dagger]

wut

where is the 3 flutter mane 3 roaring moon

[chrome knot]

uhm… why can nobody help my team ;/

where are all the singles players…

[craggy dagger]

[molten oasis]

[chrome knot]

why biting meeee

[mighty stump]

Set rocks. Hope that helps!

[patent marsh]

Stealth rocks batchesttt

[shadow wind]

Can't lie

This team is so sick to use

[bold geode]

Tofu you see my room?

[rustic mountain]

[dull ibex]

toxic tofu

[molten oasis]

Have you seen my room?

[torn parrot]

hi

[molten oasis]

[torn parrot]

🐇

[bold geode]

Yes
I'm in your closet

[molten oasis]

[cyan smelt]

i'm in ur walls

[torn parrot]

im a ghost

im a simulation

this is all a simulation

[quartz silo]

I need advice on team building

[vagrant moon]

same^ specifically what setup moves i should look to use in general.

also what would be a fair trade for an ability patch?

[torn parrot]

wtf

!!

that's a different shade of green!

[solid frigate]

I'm in your walls

[solid frigate]

any honestly

Bulk Up and Calm Mind if you want Bulk and Offense,Swords Dance and Nasty Plot for Nuking Potential

Thats all you need to know for now

[quartz silo]

Im thinking of using espathra and amoongus on a team, trying for a few statuses and a sweeper. No idea what other pokemon i should use

[solid frigate]

but do you have any idea on their Moveset?

[quartz silo]

Espathra with stored power, lumina crash, protect/substitute, and maybe dazzling gleam?

Amoongus with spore and whatever else lol

[solid frigate]

I think what you can do is

Stored Power,Calm Mind,Dazzling Gleam and Protect for Espathra

[quartz silo]

Why not lumina crash?

[solid frigate]

you don't want Dark Types to fuck you over

[quartz silo]

Ah

What about for amoongus? Was thinking a sleeper/some kind of hazard setter if it can

[solid frigate]

Spore,Rage Powder,Protect

And either Pollen Puff for Side Heal or Clear Smog against Other Set up Pokemon And Dozogiri

[quartz silo]

I was mainly going to be running singles

[solid frigate]

Oh.

this is VGC dominant Chat

Aka 4v4 doubles

[molten oasis]

[solid frigate]

hi Drago

[quartz silo]

Ah, shouldnt it say vgc discussion then? I took comp as in just trying to win. My b

[molten oasis]

i just finished discussing a new party pet in our campaign due to a deck of many more things pull session

we (i) now have a pet dragon, and every other card used never happened

we we're doing that for like 3 hours lol

[molten oasis]

well its for competitive in either game but this chat is primarily vgc players

[solid frigate]

lel

[quartz silo]

Why is comp 2v2s? Im so out of the loop cuz the last games i played were black 1 and 2

[patent marsh]

just basic complexity since 1v1 is pretty dominated by just having really high stats majority of the time

[quartz silo]

2v2 is fun to mess around with like in battle subway, but as a comp format? Too many broken setups imo

[molten oasis]

probably smth along the lines of that ig

[patent marsh]

also 1v1 games can be pretty long

[quartz silo]

True

[patent marsh]

2v2 pretty difficult for anything stally

[molten oasis]

i like when my games end in less that usually 10 turns

instead of playing blissey stall for like an hour

[solid frigate]

really efficent time save fr

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2248845495-gqi280mp9ak17e8c55x0ast6choyvs0pw

ok yeah Switching Garchomp infront of a Fairy Type is a Wtf moment

[cyan smelt]

Fairy tera chomp is a thing now

Switching chomp in front of Sylveon is big brain time

[solid frigate]

[cyan smelt]

That's a 1400 player too wtf

Wait does hyper voice stay fairy when Sylveon teras

[patent marsh]

Yea cause it's the ability changing it to fairy not the type

[tiny karma]

Ability: Pixilate

This Pokemon's Normal-type moves become Fairy-type moves and have their power multiplied by 1.2. This effect comes after other effects that change a move's type, but before Ion Deluge and Electrify's effects.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[cyan smelt]

Makes sense, ig only tera blast changes type for Sylveon, so it gets stab on tera blast with and without tera

[patent marsh]

Ye

[cyan smelt]

Sylveon is underrated

One of the mons my team struggles with is arch, I wonder if hyper beam could ko

[solid frigate]

1500

idk WHY they do that

[cyan smelt]

Brain-dead play

They threw

[solid frigate]

unless they did not bring Archa

[cyan smelt]

They prolly didn't

They could've kept talon in and brave birded

[lusty carbon]

Anyone

Wanna

Play on sd

[quartz silo]

Sd?

[lusty carbon]

Showdown

Damn i hit unc status 😔

[quartz silo]

Oh that

If you got unc status im in the grave already XD