competitive_discussion

[molten oasis]

Bolts to help with Mirai but I can see incin, ig

[solid frigate]

Yeah i can see Bolt works well

You can try it

[cyan smelt]

i hate this format sm

[solid frigate]

you literally said more than Drago said he hates Reg H

[foggy lodge]

y'know what lowkey annoys me

I found a team that finally feels that clicked right when reg G is coming back in some weeks

Like, really? 😭

[solid frigate]

thats how me be like with my Sylveon team

[molten oasis]

Real

[foggy lodge]

Rilla Inci rotations coming back finally

i thought they were going for their own path like

Incineroar with Amoonguss and Rilla in balance sneasler dragon teams or something

[cyan smelt]

tera flying arch, wtaf

[dense latch]

i've seen that

[solid frigate]

i personally love Ghost Archa

[dense latch]

immunity to ground and fighting resist, electric rock and ice aren't that common

[cyan smelt]

yeah fuck this game everything is countering this team

[molten oasis]

Don’t remind me that was so annoying to deal with

[solid frigate]

lel

[cyan smelt]

i hate this game, fire blast dragapult

every, single, team, is countering rain

[next stump]

post some replays of these games

[cyan smelt]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2245951432

[next stump]

I don’t doubt what you’re saying, but there’s gotta be some avenue you can take

[cyan smelt]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2245948634-0v3o5l5amdace5h8mv3kflxkotfn1kopw

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2245955741-7nkv81xt1j18iemzlk222lzrwxs4tlypw

i'm sick of this meta

[dense latch]

again dude

take a break

if you keep on playing it's just gonna be worse and worse

[bold geode]

That was actually pretty common at a point

[cyan smelt]

you know what, i quit, nothing i try works

yet everything my opponents do works

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2245953959

and i bet when i try a different team i'll struggle with rain again

[rustic mountain]

i mean the team seems fine, maybe replace maus

[molten oasis]

bro's just like me fr

[rustic mountain]

im using a similar team and have been doing well w/ it

[cyan smelt]

what do i replace maus with, and i think i need to change the evs on arch, it's dying too easily

[rustic mountain]

mines like fully defensive lmao

[cyan smelt]

maybe i should do that

[rustic mountain]

i also have incin/shroom over rilla and maus, feels like it gives me more of a defensive backbone

[cyan smelt]

also i think i need sash instead of cloak on peli

[molten oasis]

hehe incin shroom

[rustic mountain]

goated duo

[cyan smelt]

what tera should i use on arch

[rustic mountain]

sash for sure

[molten oasis]

true true

why are you not already sash lol

[rustic mountain]

im tera grass on arch u could also go like fairy ig

[molten oasis]

i feel like sash is just the way to go

[rustic mountain]

yea

im running cloak shroom rn

[molten oasis]

is that just an anti sneasler thing?

plus fake out

[rustic mountain]

didnt start as that but it works

[cyan smelt]

well at least i know what beats rain now, pretty much everything

[molten oasis]

ic, i like sitrus

[rustic mountain]

sitrus is great

im using sitrus incin tho

i have regen w/ its ability

[molten oasis]

im kinda, over the format tbf, but i'll play that team every couple days

im "comfortable" with it ig

[molten oasis]

thats fair

i have goggles

i like incin shroom dengo

very solid

[rustic mountain]

yea thats half my team lmao

[molten oasis]

based lol

[mighty stump]

Stellar no balls

[spiral ridge]

One good BP and electroshot all you need to win

And Draco meteor

[cyan smelt]

i need to learn to quit playing while tilted

[patent marsh]

Nah you need to lose the tilt while tilting then you can slam more games without being tilted

[cyan smelt]

i think i'll stop playing for a while while i calm down

[molten oasis]

You like stellar a lot

[rustic mountain]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2245996918-1ujhjmxyj95108ca9vu2b4q02t47ahzpw
well this game started out horribly lmao

[mighty stump]

Cuz I got balls

[rustic mountain]

[spiral ridge]

Tree took them himself turbo granny style

[rustic mountain]

🤨

[cyan smelt]

i'm going back through my replays and notice myself making a lot of questionable plays haha

[spiral ridge]

Idk man gotta make everything a dandadan reference like it’s Jojo

[placid mist]

Do you guys have feedback for my team
https://pokepast.es/3ea6eb5bc033257b

[tiny karma]

Move: Population Bomb

Hits ten times. This move checks accuracy for each hit, and the attack ends if the target avoids a hit. If one of the hits breaks the target's substitute, it will take damage for the remaining hits. If the user has the Skill Link Ability, this move will always hit ten times. If the user is holding Loaded Dice, this move hits four to ten times at random without checking accuracy between hits.

Type

Normal

Category

Physical

Power

20

Accuracy

90

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Slicing

Boosted by Sharpness.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[dull ibex]

I need to flowchart the mirror

[cyan smelt]

skeledirge was a champ for me just before, he tanked two crits

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2246035371

should have targeted farig though

[cyan smelt]

very interesting, just lost to a no retreat baton pass smeargle with co-star flamigo and water veil dozo

i love using p2

tanks a pop bomb and 2hko arch

[shadow wind]

Man elo is high right now

T500 is getting bit high for me

[cyan smelt]

p2 is my new fav

[shadow wind]

How many p2s are running Tera ghost nowadays?

[cyan smelt]

let me check

around 20%

[shadow wind]

Well that’s somewhat annoying

And they run no speed normally right?

[cyan smelt]

4 spe bold

oh wait quiet

so yeah ig no speed

[shadow wind]

What’s p2’s speed stat?

It’s like 70 right?

[cyan smelt]

60

[shadow wind]

Ah ok

Man my team does actually struggle with P2 a bit

[cyan smelt]

i've won 5 out of 6 games with this team today

low elo but still

[shadow wind]

Hey wins are wins

[cyan smelt]

it's better than when i was using rain and losing every game

[shadow wind]

My least favourite P2s to fight are the Tera fighting Tera blast ones

Ttar doesn’t appreciate those ones very much

[cyan smelt]

p2 2hko an arch with that

[shadow wind]

Jeez really?

[cyan smelt]

yep

must not have had much bulk invested

[shadow wind]

Was the P2 +1?

[cyan smelt]

let me check the replay

1.5

tanked a pop bomb too

and a 1.5 body press

it was lorb pelipper what

[shadow wind]

Lorb Peli was somewhat common in Reg G

[cyan smelt]

i thought they all ran sash, let me check the item stats

lorb is way down there

5%

[shadow wind]

Yeah so not common but is still seen

They hit stupid hard

Especially if they’re Tera stellar or something

[cyan smelt]

i think they misplayed, they tera ghost their incin when they should have tera stellar or ghost their peli

i feel proud of myself, i went for the hard read that they were going to beat up into arch with the maus and went for the arch immediately

they taunted p2 instead

[shadow wind]

And how’d that go?

[cyan smelt]

well i tera blasted twice into arch, they targeted gambit, then once gambit was gone they tried doubling up into p2

[shadow wind]

Ya win?

[cyan smelt]

yep

[shadow wind]

Nice

I felt like there was a lot of high elo players on today

Like I had a streak of like 5 where they were all above 1700

[cyan smelt]

crazy

[shadow wind]

Yeah

I actually played the T4 guy

[cyan smelt]

t4?

[shadow wind]

Lost of course but thankfully I only lost 8 elo

#4 on ladder

[cyan smelt]

oh

[shadow wind]

I guess “Top 4” doesn’t really make sense

Usually that’s a milestone not a designated person

[cyan smelt]

yeah i thought t4 was a person lol

[shadow wind]

I wonder when my day will come when I hit 1800

[cyan smelt]

i'm only low elo on this alt i'm using but it's been going better since i switched glowking to p2 and amoonguss to rilla

[shadow wind]

Nice

I usually make new alts but this reg my main has been my testing account

[cyan smelt]

p2 is ridiculously tanky

[shadow wind]

Oh yeah

[cyan smelt]

and it's nice to have stab tera blast without tera

[atomic portal]

soon

[cyan smelt]

do you know what vgclth means? i see it a fair bit on ladder when i'm watching games

[shadow wind]

Only a couple games in Reg H

[shadow wind]

It's for a showdown tournament

Not sure of the details but I've seen a bunch of em too

[cyan smelt]

i've also seen vgcgb or something

[shadow wind]

Oh weird

[cyan smelt]

scale shot is everywhere atm lol

[shadow wind]

Everyone hates sash Sneasler

My plan for sash sneasler is sand chip

Been loving my current sand team actually

[cyan smelt]

is it ttar excadrill

[shadow wind]

And why do I have 2340 Reg H games just on my main 😭😭

Love Ttar drill

And then Gastrodon for some rain safety

My Gastro OHKO’d an Archaludon before

[cyan smelt]

gastrodon is underrated, tera fire for rilla as well

[shadow wind]

I use Tera poison

Better for Sneasler meta

And still blocks Prima fairy and Rillaboom grass

Here wait let me just send the team

https://pokepast.es/13e7e291f8620a5d

Love that stab clear smog on Gastrodon after Tera

[cyan smelt]

interesting team

[shadow wind]

Yeah

Tried to be a little funky with it

[cyan smelt]

i'm running aurora veil a9 but not sure whether to go light clay and what tera to use

[shadow wind]

Nah don’t go light clay

Light clay A9 is dog

[cyan smelt]

it's sash currently

[shadow wind]

Keep it like that

And usually Tera water or fire

[cyan smelt]

yeah i'm tera water currently

[shadow wind]

Sounds like a good set then

[cyan smelt]

i'll share my team

[shadow wind]

Also don’t mind the misty terrain on Grimmsnarl

It cooks I swear

[cyan smelt]

https://pokepast.es/2848d2c14d53a4d8

good for all the scale shots going around i bet

[shadow wind]

And for Amoonguss

[cyan smelt]

true

[shadow wind]

And even for guts Ursa

[cyan smelt]

oh right it can't activate it

[shadow wind]

Yup

[cyan smelt]

no more stab facade

[shadow wind]

And it’s also nice for dire claw

Underrated terrain right now

[cyan smelt]

misty surge weezing also cooks

[shadow wind]

Also that team looks sick

Have you ever thought about running hex instead of shadow ball on Dirge?

Just considering you have wisp and all

[cyan smelt]

then it's useless against tera fire ape that's all

[shadow wind]

That’s true

I would be too scared to click shadow ball

I know my luck, it’s getting that defiant drop

[cyan smelt]

and i can't wisp gholdengo and can't hex gambit either

unless it's tera ghost for some reason

[shadow wind]

Oh right, when I used Hex dirge it was with Glimm

[cyan smelt]

nice

[shadow wind]

Never mind

I for some reason thought it was solo statusing dirge

[cyan smelt]

that's some good synergy there, glimm and dirge

[shadow wind]

Yeah I ran it with screens too

And twave on Grimm for more hex shenanigans

[cyan smelt]

sounds like a fun team

[shadow wind]

It was until the Sneasler nation attacked

[cyan smelt]

dirge and a9 are good together because it's already pretty bulky and screens gives it more on the sp def side

[shadow wind]

For sure

Almost nothing kills him behind screens

[cyan smelt]

i was thinking about running earth power instead of wisp but wisp is too valuable for sneaslers and gambits and the occasional dozo

[shadow wind]

For sure

And you almost always live at least 1 dozo hit because of unaware

[cyan smelt]

idk what happened before but dirge just died to a wave crash from dozo earlier but it was a gimmick team so i don't mind

[shadow wind]

Oh weird

Behind veil?

[cyan smelt]

no retreat baton pass smeargle next to co-star flamigo with water veil dozo

[shadow wind]

Ew

[cyan smelt]

gimmicky cheese that only works 5/10 times on bo1 ladder

[shadow wind]

Yeah

Thank god I have omni boost counterplay

[cyan smelt]

maybe i should post my team to the smogon vgc thread

[shadow wind]

Been thinking of running yawn on Gastrodon but I’m not sure if it would be better

[cyan smelt]

clear smog sounds good

[shadow wind]

Yeah same with icy wind

It’s my only real speed control on the team

Although the team is naturally pretty fast

With drill and scarf ape

I can’t live without jolly still though

[cyan smelt]

let me check your team again haha

does final gambit ko dozo?

[shadow wind]

Nah

I only run enough health on Ape to OHKO base 100 hp guys

Also I feel like I haven’t seen any dragapults lately

[cyan smelt]

they're around i'm sure

[shadow wind]

I love how perfect Corviknight is for sand teams though

[cyan smelt]

natural synergy

deals with rilla nicely too if tera flying doesn't

[shadow wind]

Yup

And is a nice EQ partner

[cyan smelt]

tera ghost tera blast dragapult is frightening

[shadow wind]

I like to run that instead of Tera dragon

[cyan smelt]

i haven't seen much armarouge lately

[shadow wind]

I’ve seen em

They like to run weak armour as of recent

[cyan smelt]

yeah very annoying

i think i need to take out the partner if i see it

[shadow wind]

Luckily I can lead pretty favourably into it

Ttar is like a natural psyspam counter

[cyan smelt]

ttar is good too

[shadow wind]

For such a dog typing, he is so amazing

[cyan smelt]

how does your team match up into the jumpluff zard sun team that's popular lately

[shadow wind]

Honestly not horrible

Ttar lives pretty much any fire attack and rock slide hurts it

[cyan smelt]

i feel like i might struggle with that team

[shadow wind]

Misty terrain stops sleep powder stuff and behind screens ttar never dies

[cyan smelt]

what about the ursaluna

oh it stops guts

[shadow wind]

Yuppers

And low kick is base 120 power on Ursa

[cyan smelt]

neat

[shadow wind]

And my Gastro is min speed so it can under speed it in TR

[cyan smelt]

the zard team is super strong if you don't have counterplay

[shadow wind]

That’s the one with eject pack torkoal eh?

[cyan smelt]

yes

[shadow wind]

Yeah it is pretty tough

Thankfully sand counters it pretty well

The weathers are weird

[cyan smelt]

i feel like snow doesn't bc the jumpluff is faster

[shadow wind]

Jumpluff is pretty fast

And yeah

[cyan smelt]

and eject pack torkoal basically guarantees sun

[shadow wind]

Don’t got many fire resists on your team do you

[cyan smelt]

dragon tera gliscor and tera fire rilla and skeledirge but yeah

[shadow wind]

Yeah I meant without the teras

I guess my team doesn’t either actually

[cyan smelt]

nope it's pretty grim

[shadow wind]

Just one really good fire resist

But also sash drill allows at least one good hit

Even in sun, if I got screens up I think my ttar can eat up zard hits

[cyan smelt]

i think i might need to think about the sun MU

[shadow wind]

252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Tera Fire Charizard Weather Ball (100 BP Fire) vs. 140 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Tyranitar in Sun through Light Screen: 83-99 (43 - 51.2%) -- 5.1% chance to 2HKO

More than I thought but that's like max damage possible

[cyan smelt]

rock slide does a lot too

[shadow wind]

Are they even specs or are they scarf?

[shadow wind]

If it hits

[cyan smelt]

specs

[shadow wind]

Ok that’s what I thought

Is it Tera fire as well?

I feel like they were Tera dragon for some reason

[cyan smelt]

i need to check the team

[knotty mirage]

Is there best way to counter blood moon it starting to get annoying losing to it on end game match

[cyan smelt]

ghost

[shadow wind]

Ah right

Knew it wasn’t fire

[shadow wind]

Easy answer is don’t let TR go up

[cyan smelt]

yeah but then there's tw

[shadow wind]

But that’s sometimes impossible

[knotty mirage]

The thing is they don't use trick room they use tail wind

[shadow wind]

There really is no way to beat BM without it getting messy

[knotty mirage]

Tailwind talonflame specificaly

[cyan smelt]

it's regular ursa

[shadow wind]

Hmm

My first thought is Primarina

[cyan smelt]

in sun?

[shadow wind]

Nah

[knotty mirage]

Should i just start to use blood moon again then

[shadow wind]

For this guys Ursa BM problem

[cyan smelt]

ohhhhh

but they're running tera grass now

[shadow wind]

Oh are they?

[cyan smelt]

i reckon quiver dance volc

[shadow wind]

Loses pretty hard to talonflame

[cyan smelt]

magmar?

[shadow wind]

That might work

[knotty mirage]

I fucking hate it man when i tried to use fighting type attack they always go tera ghost but when i tried to use move that supereffective to ground they go tera normal an ohko everything with hyper voice

[shadow wind]

Like EP yeah but it surely tanks one

The UrsaBM theorem

The importance of Tera

[cyan smelt]

Or p2 is tanky enough to hurt it

[shadow wind]

Rillaboom can be pretty good at stopping it

[knotty mirage]

The only one who can tank ursa bm is corvi but i'm not big fan of using it

[cyan smelt]

How about sneasler

[shadow wind]

Wacky pick in AV Orthworm

[knotty mirage]

Yeah i'm not using that

[cyan smelt]

Archaludon? Tera grass?

[knotty mirage]

AV orthworm can tank BM ursa but what it gonna do afterward

[cyan smelt]

Another team that's popular is dozo sneasler coaching

[shadow wind]

Probably still pops to Tera Normal Blood Moon

The Archaludon idea seemed pretty solid

Could even run Sturdy to guarantee an EP live

[knotty mirage]

Tera normal blood moon with redirect support

[cyan smelt]

Snarl arch

[knotty mirage]

Hmm but what should i replace move with snarl

[cyan smelt]

What's your current moveset

[knotty mirage]

I'm not sure if i can replace draco meteor flash cannon body press and electro shot

[shadow wind]

Is it a rain team?

[knotty mirage]

Yeah actually

[cyan smelt]

Flash cannon maybe?

[shadow wind]

Is it stamina?

[knotty mirage]

Yeah it's stamina

[shadow wind]

Then replace flash cannon

The other 3 are too useful

It’s almost always better to use electro shot anyway

[knotty mirage]

Hmm yeah i think i will then i already have dhengo for steel stab anyway

[shadow wind]

Nice

That should help against TW UrsaBM

[knotty mirage]

Oh wait but there the accuracy problem

[cyan smelt]

Wow I'm just watching someone scale shot into their own annihilape

[shadow wind]

Nah now they getting too tricky

[knotty mirage]

You know what worth a shoot then just hope i don't rage quit because snarl miss the wrong target

[cyan smelt]

It died to a beat up rage fist

[shadow wind]

Only a 5% chance, can’t happen too often right…?

[shadow wind]

So very unfortunate

[cyan smelt]

Wow they had sash gambit

[shadow wind]

I fought one of those earlier today

Wasn’t fun but they still lost

[cyan smelt]

They're getting way too tricky

[shadow wind]

I agree

Like people are just doing too much nowadays

Makes my life pretty easy when Tera flying EQ turn 1 kills 90% of shenanigans

I like having an easy 1-2 combo lead like that

I feel like every team needs a 1-2 lead that is reliable

[cyan smelt]

I'm using parsrs and it says my 1-2 lead is skeledirge a9

Now there's sash Ape next to fissure dozo

With stealth rock and yawn

Also yep tera grass blursa is a thing now

[shadow wind]

I keep forgetting to use PARSRS

[cyan smelt]

It helped me troubleshoot my team

I need to decide if I'm going to Perth regional or not

[shadow wind]

Yo you live in Aus?

[cyan smelt]

Yep

[shadow wind]

That's dope

Where I'm trying to end up

[cyan smelt]

It's pretty nice here

[shadow wind]

Also just made a new alt to try out my team with PASRS and went 5-0

[cyan smelt]

Niceeeee

Now you can use it to fix holes in your team

[shadow wind]

Gotta love these kinda stats

[shadow wind]

I just wanna get away from the cold

[cyan smelt]

I love beating higher ranked opponents even if it's low elo

[shadow wind]

What can I say, if it ain't broke don't fix it

[cyan smelt]

What are you facing

[shadow wind]

Ttar is the closest thing I'll get to a restricted right now

[cyan smelt]

Av ttar is a tank

[cyan smelt]

Ew flower trick anger point

[shadow wind]

By the 2 pokemon shown can you tell they forfeit?

[cyan smelt]

I think yeah

[shadow wind]

They endured

Sand was up...

[cyan smelt]

Toxicroak is just poor man's sneasler

[shadow wind]

I love Toxicroak

But man is he awful

[cyan smelt]

Just not fast enough

[shadow wind]

And I'm starting to see a theme

[cyan smelt]

Solid

[shadow wind]

Ttar loves tera

That's usually my issue, I never take full advantage of tera

[cyan smelt]

It can tera out of all its weaknesses

[shadow wind]

Like Groudon? Awful Tera user

This team is full of good tera'ers though

[cyan smelt]

I'm still testing out some teras to see how they do

But tera dragon gliscor seems ok and I think tera electric skeledirge is ok too

Wait I can't remember whether it's electric or fighting

Might be fighting for the rock and dark resists

[shadow wind]

Lotta immunities

All but Ttar have 2 immunities

[cyan smelt]

I should plug my team into marriland

[shadow wind]

Didn't even realize till now

5 poison resists too

Man I really hate sneasler

[cyan smelt]

V nice

[shadow wind]

And no fairies allow for the 3 weaknesses

Why is it actually so balanced

Perfectly made typing I guess

[shadow wind]

Yeah the fire weakness becomes apparent when you play against Zard I bet

[cyan smelt]

That's a problem

[shadow wind]

And only 1 immunity

Hmm

Although you do have 1 resist for every type

So that's pretty sick

[cyan smelt]

I just have to remember if I see zard I have to go straight for the wood hammer because it'll tera ghost to avoid fo

[shadow wind]

Pretty hard call to make but yeah usually they will do that

[cyan smelt]

Just like hyphlosion will go tera fire eruption

[shadow wind]

Yup

Alternatively you could lead Gambit + Rilla and go for FO + sucker

[cyan smelt]

Jumpluff rage powder

[shadow wind]

Good point

[cyan smelt]

And I think jumpluff has covert cloak

[shadow wind]

I think it does too

When I used Jumpluff I ran cloak

[cyan smelt]

And jumpluff is always faster because of the sun too

[shadow wind]

And Jumpluff is 1 point faster Ninetales

[cyan smelt]

Eject pack torkoal guarantees sun too and they switch in torkoal to reset

[shadow wind]

That seems like a really hard MU for your team

What tera is your Gambit?

[cyan smelt]

Dark

[shadow wind]

Hmm

It might be better to change it to like fire or something

[cyan smelt]

Tr p2 and rilla, gambit and skeledirge

I already have fire type on rilla but ig on gambit it could work too

[shadow wind]

Oh is it black glasses actually?

[cyan smelt]

Yes

[shadow wind]

Ahhh

Maybe you can change it to safety goggles and keep tera dark?

[cyan smelt]

Interesting, sounds good, esp for tr with Amoonguss

I feel like playing some more

[shadow wind]

I did too

Hence why I made a new alt

Even though it's 3am

Oh jeez it's 3am

[cyan smelt]

Sleep, you don't make good plays when you're tired

[shadow wind]

That's why I made an alt

Low elo is where I can turn my brain off

[cyan smelt]

Fair

[shadow wind]

But only until 1200

Then people whip out the nastiest gimmicks of all time

Praying the roads are icy tomorrow and school gets cancelled 🙏

[cyan smelt]

I watched a wacky game earlier, simple beam grumpig next to clangorous soul kommo-o and it had psych up

[shadow wind]

That sounds hilarious

But very easily stopped

[cyan smelt]

And power gem for incin

[shadow wind]

Oh wait that's sick

[cyan smelt]

Then stored power

[shadow wind]

I was always a simple beam lover

[cyan smelt]

I think it won, it ohko the rilla and serperior

[solid frigate]

wait you have been talking in your team since how long-

[shadow wind]

I love Serp

[shadow wind]

Hmm?

[cyan smelt]

It could have won but a leaf storm missed

[solid frigate]

i just done 1 hour of Science work and you guys are still talking about Kalos’s Team

[cyan smelt]

This is the team building process

[shadow wind]

I suck at team building so any experience is nice

And I've decided

[cyan smelt]

Me too

[shadow wind]

My current team is being made on Cart

I've had a shiny event Ttar from Gen 5 for too long

He finally gets to see the light of day

Or the sand of the desert I guess?

And why does Larvitar have guts?

Bro don't need that

[cyan smelt]

Eviolite larvitar when

Oh wait yeah that's useless

[shadow wind]

Nah flame orb Larvitar

[cyan smelt]

In tr

[shadow wind]

Still worse than Trapinch

[cyan smelt]

Haha

[shadow wind]

I find it weird how banded trapinch hits harder than Landorus T

[solid frigate]

better late than Never ig

[shadow wind]

Very true

[cyan smelt]

Eviolite torracat

[solid frigate]

which is a thing

[shadow wind]

I've seen that

It's faster than Incin

[cyan smelt]

Fissure trapinch

[shadow wind]

Also have seen that

[cyan smelt]

Funny

[shadow wind]

Counter sashed Gastrodon

[cyan smelt]

Watching my replays really helped me

[shadow wind]

Explodes Rillaboom 9/10 times

I lowkey hate watching my replays

Cause 90% of my games come down to "Well if I would've predicted the other pokemon to tera"

[solid frigate]

it just making notes on how can you improve on

[cyan smelt]

I used to hate it but I shouldn't have been so resistant

[lofty tartan]

[shadow wind]

I feel like a lot of my issues come from my leads

Which is why I like teams with easy leads

[cyan smelt]

Well parsrs tells you your best leads

[solid frigate]

i kinda just

Try to mix up my leads and try it if its good or not until i find some good options

[shadow wind]

It does but usually mine end up like this

[cyan smelt]

Mixing up leads is good

[foggy lodge]

you end up learning your best leads with time

comfort diff kek

[solid frigate]

exactly

i just only use Damage Calc lol

[shadow wind]

I love the damage calc

[solid frigate]

well duh its reliable

in Birmingham and EUIC i need to do the Calcs in Reg G before hand

[cyan smelt]

I think I will go to Perth, even if I do badly at least I'll learn something

[foggy lodge]

I think

Santiago being one o the first regionals of double restricted is kinda shit lol

[solid frigate]

good luck lmao

[foggy lodge]

So a friend told me about Caly Shadow + Koraidon scale shot

And lowkey that sounds dope lol

[shadow wind]

I've been thinking about Groudon + Giratina

[solid frigate]

Zamazenta is extremely dead-

[torn parrot]

why am i still up

[solid frigate]

s l e e p

[solid frigate]

Terapagos Zamazenta

why not fight fire with Fire lol

[shadow wind]

Sounds like cancer

Fattest team of all time

[solid frigate]

probably be one of the better comps without counting Raypagos and CalydowPagos

[cyan smelt]

instruct oranguru next to torkoal is funny

[cyan smelt]

just watched a fire punch rampardos in tr sun lmao

should i run knock off on rilla

[mighty stump]

What is Raypagos and CalydowPagos

[cyan smelt]

sounds like something that's up monke's alley

spirit break grimm seems to be making a comeback

[solid frigate]

[lone spindle]

https://pokepast.es/15eb8a8b007e8180

Built this for vgc doubles

Any help is appreciated

[cyan smelt]

Stellar tera on sneasler, you're wasting EVs on corviknight, 244 and 12 instead of 248 and 8, and I would drop swords dance on excadrill for high horsepower, rilla is pretty popular and you need an alternative ground move

Oh and drop swords dance on chomp for stomping tantrum, and give it life orb

And give it rough skin

And overheat on magmar is better I think

[lone spindle]

I wanted the sand veil on garchomp as this is that sand team

Is rough skin that much better?

[dull ibex]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2246159026

[lone spindle]

Keep that Tera on sneasler?

[cyan smelt]

Yes rough skin for chip on sash mons and extra damage, stellar tera on sneasler

[lone spindle]

Ok thanks

Am I missing utility

Or it looks good without

[cyan smelt]

Looks like a solid sand team

Corviknight punishes intim and provides good coverage against grass, Garchomp is just solid ATM and coaching sneasler looks good here too

Don't think you need utility, you've got a good mix of bulk and offense

And as you're testing things you can adjust if something doesn't work or if you get koed when you don't expect to

[lone spindle]

Sweet thanks

[foggy lodge]

I really think you need Indeedee-Male over Garchomp

Psychic seed Corvi is very good

[lone spindle]

I saw a team with M Indeedee

[lone spindle]

I’m not really sure what his role is can you explain

[foggy lodge]

Damage

That's it xd

[bold geode]

Talking shit hombre

[foggy lodge]

More elaborated would be just to block priority and give you terrain control to keep EQ

[foggy lodge]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reghbo3-2246216137-frg0rnfxfb42rc218sbjw5tmo6ny0topw

[stone copper]

It took me way too long to learn that terastalizing keeps your original stab.
Like a meowscarada tera into electric would still get grass and dark stab.

[solid frigate]

well you’ll get there eventually

[real prairie]

Just seen Shiny Rayaquaza coming to Tera raids, hopefully means more legendaries soon

[real prairie]

Apart from Last Respects that loses STAB when you tera away from Ghost

[tiny karma]

Move: Last Respects

Power is equal to 50+(X*50), where X is the total number of times any Pokemon has fainted on the user's side, and X cannot be greater than 100.

Type

Ghost

Category

Physical

Power

50

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[chrome knot]

this is for vgc

[solid frigate]

also you don't have to flex your Arlecchino's 324% Crit damage lmao

[placid mist]

Do you guys have feedback for my team
https://pokepast.es/3ea6eb5bc033257b

[tranquil kraken]

needs more "Shiny: Yes"

[real prairie]

id probably go life orb over mystic water personalyl

[hollow shoal]

Pokemon z

[placid mist]

one wave crash and he is in red health 💀

Wave crash recoil + life orb recoil would be crazy

[dense latch]

i think band basc + defensive tera is way better than mystic water

i’d argue even scarf adaptability can be better in some teams if you want a better non-rain gameplan

bc that set can work great without rain while still benefiting from it

[craggy dagger]

mystic water is nice cuz of the power boost

[chrome knot]

mystic water is garbage

commit to band or lorb

[mighty stump]

Recoil don't matter if they die first

[molten oasis]

Based

[craggy dagger]

for basc maybe

[placid mist]

I like your thinking honestly

I could make him Tera grass to be immune to Spore and give him scarf adaptability

he would still be doing good damage right

[molten oasis]

Nah just scarf (adap) band or LORB

Sash also seems better

[craggy dagger]

better sash mons

[molten oasis]

Well what if no sash mons on the squad

[placid mist]

I got sash on pelliper

[craggy dagger]

true true

[molten oasis]

Oh then LORB or band the basc

[chrome knot]

band swift swim

actually

scarf adapt

youll play more games solo basc than you will pairing them together

[molten oasis]

Damn, mewtwo garde go crazy

[dense latch]

pika better

(i got pika ex first)

[dense latch]

also as much as i hate arch it’s just too good not to run in rain

if you go for scarf basc you still have a solid 4 without rain

[placid mist]

Hell no i ain't running arch

[chrome knot]

why

[dense latch]

fair enough lmao

[placid mist]

I really don't like him

[chrome knot]

bruh

ur problem is that

this team wants to be rain and you're just missing the fundamental pieces of it

[placid mist]

it's not really a full rain team

[chrome knot]

in that arch, so now you just have 4 glue mons, in literally triple fake out, and no consistent staying power/damage

[placid mist]

I was gonna replace fakeout on sneasler for Protect

Rain is also a way to take off other's weather's too

[chrome knot]

rain is mainly an offensive concept rn tho

[placid mist]

and helping rillaboom and gambit defensively

while also having basc to abuse the rain

[chrome knot]

but what if im a sneasler, rain has 0 effect to me

[dense latch]

replace acrobatics

fake out >>>>>>

[chrome knot]

fake out not necessary imo

[placid mist]

It pairs well with Unburden and Tera flying also i alr got 2 other fake out users

[chrome knot]

my sneas is coaching w/ protect rn

[dense latch]

yeah that’s fair bc coaching is a better move than acrobatics

[chrome knot]

?

[dense latch]

fake out > acrobatics but coaching > fake out in some teams

[chrome knot]

what.

[dense latch]

what’s wrong with what i said

[chrome knot]

sneasler moveset is entirely dependant on what the team needs

there is no best option past cc/dire claw lol

[dense latch]

yeah but i dont think this team needs acro

i still think acrobatics is not worth running in basically every situation

[lofty stirrup]

theres not that many mons that flying coverage beats

[chrome knot]

yall fr

we jus gonna ignore the fact dragonite has been running tera flying blast ...?

[lofty stirrup]

the mons sneasler r weak to dont change with acro

tera flying blast is insanely strong as a stab move and does crazy damage to all neutral mons

u might as well cc/dire claw if ur thinking of using acro

the only mon worth using acro on is amoong but it doesnt ohko it anyway

[dense latch]

there’s a good reason behind why no sneasler at laic top 128 ran acro

[molten oasis]

I beat a pika lol

Tbf the mewtwos got set up before his pika did

[dense latch]

the mewtwo gard synergy is so good

the best pika can do is magneton and lt surge

[molten oasis]

Yes I saw that deck

He got his pika in pretty late

And mewtwo had garde online

It was just joever lol

[dense latch]

yea it feels like if you get mewtwo up before pika gets enough energies/basics it’s wraps

[molten oasis]

Also going second is a huge advantage

[dense latch]

true

[molten oasis]

Which, happened a lot lol

And someone had a misty deck and the misty didn’t get heads on the coin

[dense latch]

lmao

im using zapdos ex too and i faced a mirror

i got 0/4 heads vs their 3/4

[molten oasis]

That’s so unfair lol

50 vs 150 lol

[dense latch]

0 actually

even worse

[molten oasis]

Oh it’s 0? Damn

Sounds like a card I wouldn’t use lol

[dense latch]

i spent 500 pack points on glorified gambling

but it’s fun when you get good rolls

[cyan smelt]

i really need that mewtwo ex

[solid frigate]

what am i seeing

[solid frigate]

ah yes the good ol Gacha

[near crag]

Hey, I’m going through kind of a dilemma here, and that is that my team has only two mons with protect (Gholdengo and dnite). There are only two mons who could possibly run protect, those being farigiraf (instead of hyper voice) or talonflame (instead of taunt). Between those, which one should I give protect? Or maybe should it be none, or even both?

Btw, I’d switch the item on farig to sitrus berry (from throat spray), what shouldn’t mess the set up, cuz I already just hit one bump in SpA. (76+)

[next stump]

do you have a pokepaste for the team?

[craggy dagger]

it’s got nothing better

at least in terms of physical flying moves

[chrome knot]

hitting for flying type damage is still valuable‼️‼️

[craggy dagger]

emma-
gonna be honest-
-spatk hurricane on a physical dragonite-

[chrome knot]

are u stupid !?

[solid frigate]

wtf

Nova why

[chrome knot]

im saying flying tera blast is used bc flying damage is good rn dingus

[craggy dagger]

oh

i’m dum sorry

[chrome knot]

stick to your gimmicks love :3

[craggy dagger]

:((

[chrome knot]

teehee

[craggy dagger]

i’ve been making a proper team :(((

[solid frigate]

how does People fine with Reg A using Aerial Ace and shit-

[chrome knot]

lemme seeee

[craggy dagger]

it’s not kn my phone

basically this but replace risu with clefable and gligar with sneasler

https://pokepast.es/2326920e205762bb

i realize i’ve got no speed control whoops

[chrome knot]

so uh

normal......

[craggy dagger]

not normal?
it’s
the
most normal
team i’ve made

[solid frigate]

don't worry i saw that Team Alteration before

[craggy dagger]

blaziken is kinda there for the fire part of fwg but i could replace it with incin-
i just like going fast

my defense is it’s the most normal team i’ve made

unless you want to see this abomination

https://pokepast.es/768fab30720eed8e

[chrome knot]

what is the power herb for

none of these moves are

[near crag]

Here it is: https://pokepast.es/ae6326aa9d7f1354 (sorry for the time, needed to turn on my pc for this)

[craggy dagger]

whoops

my updated version-
forgot that one isn’t updated

https://pokepast.es/610edd890e3f582f

[chrome knot]

whats the bulk on dnite for

everyone keeps doing it but like why....

[foggy lodge]

its fineeeee

I used Aerial ace banded in reg F

how much damage does aerial ace banded deals against guss

[next stump]

iirc like 80%

[foggy lodge]

204+ Atk Choice Band Dragonite Aerial Ace vs. 244 HP / 204+ Def Amoonguss: 158-188 (71.8 - 85.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Yes its a lot

[bold geode]

I gave her the spread you gave me

[chrome knot]

i dropped it when i realized that 162 is too slow

im jus on 252/252/4

[tiny peak]

Hey guys when we return to reg g in Jan, will zacian be able to be on the same team as rayquaza or would sneasler be? The rules are confusing

[lofty tartan]

Sneasler isn't a legendary so isn't affected by the same rules, really.

Zacian and Rayquaza would not be able to be on the same team

The rules are ONE restricted legendary per team

[molten oasis]

They don’t really pair well anyway

[tiny peak]

What about paradox mons?

[molten oasis]

Neither of them can hit steel types

[lofty tartan]

Dude so totally not the point lol

[tiny peak]

@molten oasis zacian gets close combat

[molten oasis]

Zac will be good (if at all) with kyogre

[lofty tartan]

Restricted Legends.

[molten oasis]

You don’t have to run it

[molten oasis]

I thought that was the convo my bad

[tiny peak]

So who will some good mons be to pair with ray?

[next stump]

chien-pao, incin

[molten oasis]

Shifu seems ok with it too

The water one

[next stump]

yeah you could amoonguss/rilla and urshifu-w

already at 5/6, then just add a special attacker and test from there

[tiny peak]

Hmm ok that gives me some ideas thanks

[near crag]

this really looks like my reg g team I used most the time. Feel like the best options might be farig or gholdengo, for that last slot

[chrome knot]

hi dillon

[next stump]

https://tenor.com/view/sup-gif-25972346

[bold geode]

So I COULD make it faster

[bold geode]

Call that guy a faucet cuz he drippy

[bold geode]

I mean tbf
Rayquaza and Zacian COULD pair together in some sort of HO way

Does help you into Sun and Rain MUs

Plus Zac resists or is immune to everything Ray is weak to

[solid frigate]

what are we doing here

[bold geode]

And I THINK Ray does the same for Zac

[solid frigate]

And Ray fucking Kills Koraidon Without Dragon STAB

[bold geode]

Problem is neither one can consistently hit Steel types unless you run Sacred Sword

[solid frigate]

i mean can't you just run Sacred Sword and then try compensate losing Play Rough?

Idk about that but still

[bold geode]

Maybe

Probably
You'd kinda have to

[solid frigate]

Yeah the only mon that really needs to be hit by Play Rough is Koraidon and it fucking dies to Rayquaza anyways

[bold geode]

But then once again I'm still waiting to see which restricted will pair well with Terapagos

[solid frigate]

Zamazenta? CSR? Rayquaza?

[bold geode]

Maybe CSR as a fast team
Specs Pagos with Chi Yu and CSR could definitely dominate early meta shit

But as far as the more long term goes
No clue

[solid frigate]

why did i suddenly don't want to play Pagos-

Fuck you CSR

[bold geode]

Nuh Uh

[solid frigate]

fuck you CSR

[bold geode]

NUH UH

[solid frigate]

YUH UH

[bold geode]

NUH UH

[solid frigate]

Terapagos Zamazenta moment

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/soul-monkey-monkey-swag-monkey-soul-gif-5738633553194610808

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/spinning-monkey-gif-21881306

[foggy lodge]

im gonna parting shot u

[solid frigate]

lol

[foggy lodge]

i want to test the other restricteds instead of the same 10 that were already used in reg G

Dialga and Palkia have potential

Kyurem White seems a lot better in double restricted also, i don't think it really depends that much on snow

[solid frigate]

Obviously

They are designed to be Double Restricted In Mind

[foggy lodge]

Ho-Oh doesn't seem bad

Ho-Oh already has actually a good match up into many restricteds from reg G lol

[devout mist]

good matchup but nobody uses it no ?

[foggy lodge]

Walls Zamazenta and Zacian, can handle CalyDow, threatens CalyIce

[devout mist]

I don't think I see 1 single Ho-Oh in Reg G

[solid frigate]

Double Restricteds would be slightly More common

[foggy lodge]

Yeah the thing is its good into the restricteds, just not the rest of the Pokémon that the other restricteds use lol

Bad into Urshifu, Raging Bolt, Incineroar, Ogerpon Cornerstone

Those things

[devout mist]

Ogerpon Rock too not much seen

[foggy lodge]

ogerpon rock is broken

[devout mist]

I guess the word hasn't spread yet

[foggy lodge]

All Ogerpon are good even teal mask was used

[foggy lodge]

Has bee around since early reg G tho?xd

[solid frigate]

Rock literally won Indianapolis

[devout mist]

It's been around since it was available, I just never seen it in Master Ball

[foggy lodge]

It won Indianapolis and got second at Stockholm, top 8 worlds

[solid frigate]

SV cart is just weird so yea

[devout mist]

It's where you play the game

I am not good enough for tournament

this and the online simulator too

tournament is for good players

[bold geode]

Nuh Uh

[solid frigate]

yuh uh

[balmy glen]

are yall talking abt double restricted or reg g its like a mix lmao

[bold geode]

Idek bro

[foggy lodge]

yes its a mix

[bold geode]

Mr Keanu I thought you were tryna find that Sacramento team sir

[solid frigate]

hoi Keanu

[devout mist]

I don't know I think they talk about double box Mons

[molten oasis]

Just kyogre

The rain mu isn’t that bad for Zac

[balmy glen]

my new apartment manager was supposed to check up on the room but then said it was fine like

[bold geode]

Damn

[balmy glen]

cleaned all day for no reason so I’ll look for a sac team in a sec

[bold geode]

Lol

At least it's clean now

[balmy glen]

I also need to find my DOU World Cup team so kinda annoyed

[bold geode]

You running it up with people or

Well idk why but I kinda like Ashton Cox's LAIC team

[foggy lodge]

The Kommo-O?

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/leppy-arbys-gif-20828064

[bold geode]

Si

[foggy lodge]

Es throat spray o leftovers

[bold geode]

Es throat spray

[foggy lodge]

Pensé que el Kommo-O throat spray era fraude

[solid frigate]

here they go again

[bold geode]

No no

Pensé que el Kommo-O throat spray era buena

Creo que puede ser bueno con el equipo adecuado

[balmy glen]

Going into sac gotta prep for every single weather

We’re so back

[foggy lodge]

Creo que el equipo de Ashton es mejor

Me acuerdo que Nils lo llevó pero no le fue muy bien

[chrome knot]

i have the toronto sauce

[balmy glen]

Your going to get c teamed by what wins Sacramento just delete it and wait

[chrome knot]

nah

its been consistent

cant rly knock a p2 team

[balmy glen]

It’s ok I’ll c team u

🙂

[chrome knot]

if ur in the x-2 tables ill be worried

[bold geode]

Sí, Nils tenía una versión con Talonflame si no recuerdo mal y eso es genial, pero prefiero la versión de Ashton del equipo. Siento que Kommo-O está un poco subestimado en este momento.

[bold geode]

Me waiting until January with Reg G sauce while I watch y'all suffer more Reg H

[torn parrot]

you guys

this laic charizard team is really annoying 😭

tbh its not even charizard that i hate its jumpluff

[balmy glen]

Image needing sauce

Everyone will be getting cooked while I run a team I ran at worlds that I made at the beginning of reg g

It’s funny that I wasn’t planning on going to events then my friends wanted to hangout lol

actually I need sauce for Sacramento

[molten oasis]

My Que to go play a better format

[balmy glen]

Tbh Kommo Ttar kinda farms the teams out rn but like

ESM is running that and I don’t wanna mirror

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-reaction-crying-cry-cute-gif-4734522

[bold geode]

Yeah we gotta cook this fuckin ravioli bro

Basically Keanu I got 4 things weak to Fairy and somehow my MU into Tera Fairy Miraidon isn't extremely cooked

[shadow wind]

Why do people use Lycanroc over Excadrill?

[bold geode]

People don't do that

[shadow wind]

They definitely do

Maybe not all the time but there is still a bunch of Lycanrocs

[cyan smelt]

Lycanroc is bad

[shadow wind]

Its niche is rock slide hax

[cyan smelt]

Excadrill can do that too

[shadow wind]

Lycanroc can outspeed lots of mon under TW better than Drill

Oh and endeavor stuff

[cyan smelt]

I think the only thing lycanroc has over excadrill is cc but ttar can just low kick

[bold geode]

Brother is running into the same 1-2 Lycanroc enthusiasts repeatedly

[shadow wind]

Probably

I like excadrill

He's a sick dude

[plain drum]

They take their position on the ladder very seriously

[shadow wind]

Who does?

[plain drum]

The Lycanroc enthusiasts

[shadow wind]

I mean I would be too if I was using him

Even though Lycanroc relies on luck to win

The endeavor stuff does seem funny though I can't lie

[rustic mountain]

does he care? if its good its good

[balmy glen]

I don’t wanna mirror

[shadow wind]

Now this is just nice to see

[rustic mountain]

ight fair enough

def quite a few teams that are really good rn

[rustic mountain]

av + sand boost goes crazy

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 189: Jumpluff

Types

Grass/Flying

Abilities

Chlorophyll, Leaf Guard, Infiltrator (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

75/55/70/55/95/110

Total

460

Sableye version 4.28.1

[foggy lodge]

damn only 70

[shadow wind]

And light screen 😔

[foggy lodge]

Is like a lot of physical defense investment jumpluff the standard

[rustic mountain]

lmao yeesh

[shadow wind]

Pretty sure it's just max HP and max speed

[rustic mountain]

im not sure on exact pluff spreads but yea max speed seems like for sure

[foggy lodge]

wtf it gets infiltrator

[balmy glen]

Maybe I’ll just run sun team ezpz

I said I don’t wanna mirror but I just don’t wanna mirror my friends

[foggy lodge]

marco's team or different sun

cuz marco's team doesn't seems to fit your style of using moves that connect lol

[balmy glen]

I’ll just hit them ez

[bold geode]

Fuck I was thinking of double restricted idk why and I'm now seeing the horror of Miraidon Caly Ice

I feel like Hands and Farig will be on those cores and it's gonna be so fucking strong

[foggy lodge]

yes that duo seems good

[rustic mountain]

yea i figured cuz unless ur goin completely off the wall ull prolly face some kind of mirror

[rustic mountain]

so far away tho

hot take i think we may not even get double restricted this gen

depends wen gen 10 gets released tho

[balmy glen]

Zamazenta Chien Pao fodder

[bold geode]

Lol

[balmy glen]

I’ll cook that fraud

[bold geode]

Hey Keanu I'm gonna use Chien Pao with Rayquaza, I'm learning

[balmy glen]

Rayquaza lul

[bold geode]

Hey Flying damage good lol
Lemme cope

[balmy glen]

If u wanna use Ray just use my worlds team, take off Pelipper and Bolt, and add some stuff

And Zama of course

[bold geode]

Lmao
I mean I already got a decent 6 to start but I might look into that

https://pokepast.es/e8be4a43b957588c
Some spreads are subject to change

[polar nest]

guys imma drop a bomb in here

and then go to sleep

https://pokepast.es/28671d41f298539b
kaboom noises here

https://pokepast.es/77794e0101de8d27
and here

[bold geode]

Yeah Godzilla had a stroke looking at this and fucking died

[polar nest]

is it bad

or is it mid

[craggy dagger]

i smell skill link icicle spear/hydro pump

[polar nest]

):

I just thought koraidon heatran would be a good core

and I tried my best to build around it

[rustic mountain]

not reg h?

[polar nest]

the other one is reg h

alolan exeggutor harvest trick room sun

[rustic mountain]

i feel like a better version of this exists already, goth mode is cool tho

[polar nest]

😮

someone said a team I made was cool

thats a first

[rustic mountain]

i meant like having goth as an option is cool haha

[polar nest]

but still

[rustic mountain]

the teams kinda mish moshy and inefficient in what its trying to achieve overall

[polar nest]

its version 1.0

[rigid robin]

Can someone criticize the fuck out of my team? I've been on a losing streak with this team. I hit masterball with it last month but this month i've been at the bottom of ultra ball

https://pokepast.es/d8da727136eac1ef

[craggy dagger]

[polar nest]

how do I make it more efficient?

[rustic mountain]

ur tr mode is kinda meh, alolan egg i think is just a worse kanto egg, sinistcha and maus feel out of place and sneasler could be ok if u wanna lean into having a faster mode but ud need better options

[rigid robin]

my team mainly struggles with indeedee leads

[polar nest]

ok

[craggy dagger]

uhhhh
loaded dice water shuriken is interesting
but like
sludge wave-
bout to hit everyone including your allies .-.

[polar nest]

I chose alolan for dragon typing and being unique

[rustic mountain]

yea but like why

[rigid robin]

I opt for sludge wave to fuck up whimscott and ninetales

[rustic mountain]

u need better reasoning then that

[rigid robin]

and if i click sludge wave i switch my archaludon in

[craggy dagger]

grass dragon is nice but even then hydrapple is sm better than alolan egg

[polar nest]

ok

[rigid robin]

or wide guard with pelipper

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 103: Exeggutor-Alola

Types

Grass/Dragon

Abilities

Frisk, Harvest (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

95/105/85/125/75/45

Total

530

Base Species

Exeggutor

Sableye version 4.28.1

[craggy dagger]

like
don’t get me wrong it’s a cool idea

[polar nest]

hmm k lemme redo real quick

[craggy dagger]

and i’d love to see it work
but a mixed stat with a signature physical move + bad defenses on a tr team that could melt to psyspam or hard tr is tough

[polar nest]

https://pokepast.es/d89dacf257d571ad

[polar nest]

Yea I just don't know how to make it work

I replaced alolan egg with kanto

and now I have these four

[rustic mountain]

yea i mean its weird cuz its like u want indeedee now so u can use e force w/ kanto egg and exert more pressure but then that means goths gotta go 3 psychic types is wild

[polar nest]

goth is what makes it not boring tho

cuz egg tr has already been done

*egg tr psyspam

[rustic mountain]

im not sure why boring is bad, i jus like winning

[polar nest]

I like winning with something interesting