competitive_discussion

[lofty tartan]

I agree with 100% of what you said, having gotten a few coaches before

Some are probably great.

But it takes a certain person for sure

[rustic mountain]

at the heart of it, its fine but its an overcrowded space that has lost the plot

[foggy lodge]

90 DOLLARS FOR ONE HOUR?

[lofty tartan]

Some people overvalue their own advice xD

[foggy lodge]

i mean 3 times world champion but c'mon

[rustic mountain]

i get it but thats still wild

still impressive but it was also over 10 years ago

[torn parrot]

amoongus must have been the devil before the nerfs

[rustic mountain]

vgc has progressed so much since then

[foggy lodge]

that's the triple i'm going to (probably) pay for a coaching lmao

[lofty tartan]

It's like the newcomers to the whole vgc scene. They place well once and start coaching at 30/hr

Now it's basically the thing to do. Place and start coaching for side hustle

[rustic mountain]

ive seen ppl w/ no results do 20+ an hr

[lofty tartan]

That's fuckin nuts. All of these are more than I make hourly

[foggy lodge]

i know a guy who does 1 hour for 12 dollars and 3 hours for 30

he is not a big name but i think that's really cheap

[lofty tartan]

Price isn't always like THE thing either. I had a really great deal with my first coach but it turns out he's a shitty teacher

[rustic mountain]

do they have any results?

[lofty tartan]

Told me to copy Wolfe's teams

[foggy lodge]

big results no, only winning some locals and in general kinda popular in the hispanic community

[rustic mountain]

i coulda told u to not do that for free

[lofty tartan]

I'd rather pay Wolfe's patreon and I don't wanna do that anyway

Dude I told him it was a stupid idea.

[rustic mountain]

not even taking other ppls is bad but like 70% of wolfeys teams are for wolfey only

[lofty tartan]

"the team that won two back to back regionals? You want me to take that to Pittsburgh? Wtf dude"

Like no one will play to beat that

Smooth sailing. Told me "just win"

I wanted to smack him

[foggy lodge]

lmao

[lofty tartan]

I was livid.

[rustic mountain]

i mean tbf the guy who won w/ it next did get it off his patreon but like yea thats super lame advice to get

[lofty tartan]

The worst advice.

[rustic mountain]

especially paid advice

[lofty tartan]

I went 4-5 at Pitt using an unfamiliar team because of it, because I was told "Regidrago is only good for limitless events"

[foggy lodge]

coaching in general is rough idk

[lofty tartan]

I mean he's got a long track record of "stupid shit for 500"

[foggy lodge]

Kinda hard to know who actually teaches and who is going to say play this and leave

[rustic mountain]

yea i also think my opinion is my opinion, if ppl think its worth it and wanna give their money to that guy, thats their prerogative

[lofty tartan]

Had I played Regidrago at Pitt I may have done better

[lofty tartan]

This is important I think.

I'm not meaning to shit talk all coaching. Just approach it with an educated understanding

[rustic mountain]

i mean im def shit talking coaching

[lofty tartan]

I am too. Just not all of it.

[foggy lodge]

i want to trust rn because probably next year i'm going to take coaching with Alex Gómez

[lofty tartan]

[rustic mountain]

but also if u wanna go for it still like thats ur choice

[lofty tartan]

Personally after 3 pretty lame coaches I'm doing better on my own lmao

[foggy lodge]

i mean i still think that the best way to learn is by your own

[rustic mountain]

u do need help from others but yea ur own experience is the best informant

its better to get that help organically imo tho then to have to or feel inclined to pay for it

[lofty tartan]

I think you can't fully get great at vgc without some outside help

Like struggling solo into ladder constantly is not the way, I feel

Even just helps sometimes to ladder while chatting with someone

Dude I am having such a hard time moving around at work right now lmfao

[foggy lodge]

idk i didn't think that getting "stuck" in the vgc progress would be so easy

i don't think i'm stuck i think i have many thing to improve easily im just lazy to actually work to improve but from other people i know that have said its kinda easy

[lofty tartan]

It differs. What's easy for some isn't easy for all, and there is a lot to take in with vgc.

Man I had to buy new sunglasses for Toronto. Lupus is making my eyes refuse to adjust to sunlight so they're staying dilated while outdoors

Literally blinds me

[molten oasis]

Me post losing temper

[lofty tartan]

This checks out

[cyan smelt]

Time to troubleshoot my team ig

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vRduUj3FXxM @molten oasis food for thought ik you don't like scale shot though

[lofty tartan]

Males me wanna run it on my Toronto squad more. He's performed well on it just needs a good 6th slot

[cyan smelt]

Bax is perpetually underrated

[lofty tartan]

I've loved Bax the whole time lol. Just sometimes he's not so good

People often forget his 145 attack stat

[cyan smelt]

i'm having wacky ideas lately lol

[molten oasis]

Neat team

Im gonna play a9 dengo stuff, but it’s a cool team

[cyan smelt]

gl

[knotty mirage]

So i tried to makes team based around coaching is there anything i should change ?
https://pokepast.es/3212923631440ac4

Will try to test run it on in game ladder just want to get second opinion on this

[molten oasis]

I don’t fully get why dengo is there

What’s your dozo mu?

[knotty mirage]

Just for special attacker and spread move i guess not really into having all of my offensive mon to be physical attacker

[knotty mirage]

Dozo mu ?

[molten oasis]

Yes how do you beat dozo

Mu- match up

[knotty mirage]

I don't really see dozo that much on in game ladder so i don't really think about it much

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/a9c2b504f50e0c80 this is a coaching team I used a while ago, it’s probably outdated but this worked pretty well

Give sneasler coaching lol

[knotty mirage]

I guess i can replace whimsi with murkow haze

But even then if i meet dozo i can just encore them to death especially when in game ladder people just addicted to clicking protect anyway

[inland loom]

Is sneasler better with poison touch or with unburden?

[cyan smelt]

depends on team comp

[inland loom]

Mostly running him in singles

[cyan smelt]

most people here don't play singles

[inland loom]

Damn

What about in doubles?

Like what’s more common?

[cyan smelt]

atm poison touch sash but there's also unburden psychic seed on psyspam

[inland loom]

What moveset is ran? Atm I have cc, dire claw, swords dance, and stuck between shadow claw or throat chop

[cyan smelt]

fake out, dire claw, cc and protect or protect, coaching, dire claw, cc, or fake out, dire claw, cc and throat chop to hit gholdengo

[inland loom]

Is there a way to make hisuian decidueye work?

[cyan smelt]

nope sneasler is strictly better

[knotty mirage]

Is there even benefit of using poison touch wouldn't it be better to just fish for sleep or paralysis with dire claw ?

[cyan smelt]

being weak to sneasler really hurts as well as stuff like tera flying ttar and a9

and pelipper

[inland loom]

I mean like apart from comparing it to sneasler? I’m just trying to see how good I’d do against my friends using pokemon I like

[cyan smelt]

well if it's just casual then use whatever

[inland loom]

Hmm ok

[lofty tartan]

A lot of things in the format want to sit around and linger, and don't like being poisoned. It sets a clock.

Fishing for dire claw procs being the strategy is unreliable at best.

[molten oasis]

If you find the bad player

[knotty mirage]

Looking at in game ladder i say my chance is good

[lofty tartan]

Your ladder experience is an extremely small sample size subject to change without notice.

[knotty mirage]

Fair but i'm just going to test drive it see if this good for the current ladder

If i lose mainly to dozo i will change the whimsi too haze murkrow

[solid frigate]

-# tbf i use Comp Teams just to make them suffer 🙂

[cyan smelt]

that's mean lol

-# i want to use klawf

[spiral ridge]

Bloom doom?

[tiny karma]

Move: Bloom Doom

Power is equal to the base move's Z-Power.

Type

Grass

Category

Physical

Power

1

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

1 (1.6)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[spiral ridge]

Ah they fucked up LMFAO

[solid frigate]

what-

what are playing scotty-

[spiral ridge]

Look at game one today

And look at the blood moon

They put bloom doom instead of blood moon

[solid frigate]

LMAO

BM URSA HAS Z-CRYSTAL IN HELD LOL

[spiral ridge]

[foggy lodge]

i just woke uppp

[solid frigate]

hoi Maxi

[chrome knot]

mogged by electro shot

[spiral ridge]

Mhm

[chrome knot]

[bold geode]

Only 10 Swiss?

[bold geode]

Mogged by stimky

[chrome knot]

yes low player count

[bold geode]

Ah ok

[chrome knot]

every 5-3 bubbled points💀

[foggy lodge]

what a beast is eric dude

[spiral ridge]

Oh there’s a 10-0? Their top earlier showed no one was 9-0

[foggy lodge]

and he already had the top cut won since yesterday if i'm right

[spiral ridge]

Thought everyone had one loss

[solid frigate]

wait what team btw

[foggy lodge]

The focus sash Annihilape

[spiral ridge]

Bros stealing

[foggy lodge]

With Mirror herb incineroar

[spiral ridge]

WAIT HUH?

[solid frigate]

never fucking mind if its Ape

[spiral ridge]

Did I miss this game day one

[foggy lodge]

He played in stream

[spiral ridge]

I watched most the rounds but missed a few-
Oops

[foggy lodge]

In the last round from yesterday

[spiral ridge]

Ah that’s why I missed last three

[bold geode]

A beast that's mid 💀

Also what is this

[chrome knot]

eagerly checking pokedata to see if Kylan won his win and in

[bold geode]

I see Tera Electric on BM Ursa but why tf is there a Z Move on this shit

[spiral ridge]

They fixed it give it 10 seconds

[spiral ridge]

Ty

Lmao they just cut the casters mics for a second

[dusty gate]

Someone tripped on a cable.

[spiral ridge]

What defiant flare blitz for gambit or something?

[next stump]

RIPPP matthew lost on stream

[foggy lodge]

Now is the top 16?

[bold geode]

Tf is this ring toss lol

Oh damn
GO DUNE BUG

[spiral ridge]

Dune bug smiles like this

He looks so cheerful I love him

[next stump]

it’ll be the playin match to the top 16 most likely

asymmetric top cut

[bold geode]

LFG DUNE BUG BAYBEE

[bold geode]

Sash Ape makes me feel some type of way

[foggy lodge]

oh okok

thx

[bold geode]

Pisses me off how Kosta says H

[chrome knot]

he did ittttt

[spiral ridge]

fuck vgc we here for ring tossing

tournament intermissions try not to retell sejuns story for the fifth time that stream

[solid frigate]

lol

[foggy lodge]

What is this pachirisu video lmao

[chrome knot]

its a good story

[spiral ridge]

it is i love it

its just funny how ioften its put

[next stump]

VAMOS VICTOR MEDINA

HARRY POTTER LOOKALIKE

[chrome knot]

LMFAO

[spiral ridge]

oh he faced jeudy in that finals? i actually forgot that

[foggy lodge]

lmao

[spiral ridge]

jeudy in that stream loooked like same age as he did when i saw him baltimore that man aging good 😭

[foggy lodge]

Si se puede Victor vamos cabrón

[spiral ridge]

woo

[foggy lodge]

Michael vs Shohei

[bold geode]

Yes bro

[foggy lodge]

please show this match

[bold geode]

Did they actually pair up?

[foggy lodge]

Yeh

[bold geode]

Damn wild

[bold geode]

It gonna be Rain vs Kelsch's same ahh 6 lol

[chrome knot]

oh good heavens

[bold geode]

Bro finna go Expelliarmus

[spiral ridge]

he is a lookalike damn

[foggy lodge]

https://rk9.gg/pairings/LA02wmhcWKPq3P8MHq4H

[spiral ridge]

where delph on his team

[foggy lodge]

oof

its a bad match up for Michael

[spiral ridge]

your top 12 diff than on my stream

[chrome knot]

victory road esp stream

[foggy lodge]

because some mons share the same % xd

[spiral ridge]

oh ties that makes sense

is it triple tie between buzz ape and basc?

[foggy lodge]

LET'S GOOOOOOO

[spiral ridge]

thats funny

[foggy lodge]

yes

[spiral ridge]

lmao

[foggy lodge]

The Rilla is faster wtf

[spiral ridge]

i was thinking same fucking thing

[bold geode]

Man that did a lot

This is why Electabuzz is superior

[spiral ridge]

+2 can get through a lotta bulk

[bold geode]

Shohei can call the Dire Claw

Damn he just gonna give up shroom

Oh audio tf you go

[spiral ridge]

cut teh audio again 😭

[bold geode]

So it's not just me

[spiral ridge]

nah this second time its happened

[dusty gate]

Someone got tangled in the cable this time.

[spiral ridge]

hmm lowkey aqua jet can do some fucking work rn

[bold geode]

Someone doing the rope workouts with the cables

https://tenor.com/view/exercise-fitness-motivated-gym-ropes-gif-15213812

[spiral ridge]

he gotta

wood hammer basc then cc right?

damn

[bold geode]

It's Joever

[spiral ridge]

yeah didnt think glide woulda killed

[bold geode]

Shohei takes G1

[foggy lodge]

common Bascu calc

[spiral ridge]

would he have outsped archa? he did out speed peli

[foggy lodge]

i don't think

[bold geode]

Idt I've ever seen a singular Basc get OHKO'd by a Glide

[next stump]

damn close game

[foggy lodge]

They share the same base speed stat and usually Archa runs some speed investment

[spiral ridge]

mm

yeah just dont know their speeds

[bold geode]

Also hi Scotty 🖕

[spiral ridge]

shush bitch tourney time

[bold geode]

My autocorrect knew what was next after your name

[next stump]

glide also wins if crit or draco miss, so maybe 13% of the time

assuming he’s guaranteed slower

[spiral ridge]

yeah

[bold geode]

Can Glide actually ever OHKO Basc?

[next stump]

let’s see

[foggy lodge]

i don't even know is 4 HP 0 Def Bascu dies to glide

it has a lot of base HP

[next stump]

116+ Atk Rillaboom Grassy Glide vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Basculegion in Grassy Terrain: 168-200 (86.1 - 102.5%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

[foggy lodge]

Yes it's calced then

it probably has some small invest in bulk

[next stump]

if he’s more offensive rilla like 196+, then there is a decent chance when you factor crit

[spiral ridge]

shohei just grinning like

https://tenor.com/view/aizen-bleach-sosuke-aizen-perfectly-as-planned-planned-gif-7496081139900199648

[foggy lodge]

well there go my 20k points

[bold geode]

I went away, did Shohei win?

[foggy lodge]

Yes

Torviv won his match

top 16 now

Alex Gómez win plssss

Ejandri gana hace historia que no tengo sentido el Inci mirror herb

[dense latch]

i need renzo navarro to win this for latam

[foggy lodge]

Alex was 1-0 and he almost won the second game but there was a dc

https://tenor.com/view/wes-fall-to-knees-scream-gif-27602552

alex won nvm

omfg

Leftovers Tera Steel Substitute Sand Veil Chomp

nah this team is cooking

Infiltrator Life Orb Pult

[dusty gate]

[bold geode]

LEN

[spiral ridge]

not the bulk corv bro wants to go for it immediately

[bold geode]

LET'S GO LEN

[spiral ridge]

infiltrator drag?

[tiny karma]

Ability: Infiltrator

This Pokemon's moves ignore substitutes and the opposing side's Reflect, Light Screen, Safeguard, Mist, and Aurora Veil.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[spiral ridge]

ah that is good

[bold geode]

Ooooooooooo

[foggy lodge]

this is a bad position for everyone lol

ok tera

[spiral ridge]

comments all started screaming wolfe cus he put one comment in 😭

i was like wtf is going on til i scrolled up a tad

[bold geode]

He did that yesterday too

[spiral ridge]

did he lol

[bold geode]

Yeah

OH

[spiral ridge]

dayum

important speed knowledge

[foggy lodge]

may we see chomp make a 1v2

[spiral ridge]

hm

if he can swap out ghol prob be good

[foggy lodge]

nah he already cooked when Bascu Gambit came

maybe Chomp can win with the best luck ever

he didn't lol

[spiral ridge]

his chomp needs to get gambit and then ghol can hopefully take basc but unlikely

[bold geode]

Kowtow doesn't miss

[spiral ridge]

did he just ask if miss on kowtow?

[bold geode]

I guess
Guess he forgot that Kowtow doesn't check accuracy

[spiral ridge]

okay yeah was about to ask if sand vels is an exception to no accuracy check

[foggy lodge]

If Bascu locks in water stab Ghold can kill Bascu

[bold geode]

Nah
Sand Veil is same as Snow Cloak and I used Kingambit in Articuno MUs

[spiral ridge]

oh its scarf yeah hes never outspeeding bascu

[bold geode]

Sand Veil Tera Steel Substitute
That's actually kinda nasty

[foggy lodge]

Leftovers btw

[bold geode]

Damn

C'MON LEN LOCK THE FUCK IN MY BOY

[foggy lodge]

tera fire corvi

[bold geode]

LENTAR

LENTAR

[spiral ridge]

still a little surprised no bulk up or iron defence corvi seen it before and it did well

[foggy lodge]

wait what's the moveset

[spiral ridge]

guess tailwind more important

its body press brave bird roost tw

[foggy lodge]

wtf

[bold geode]

Some go with this support set
Then again Len is basically a main with Corv Chomp TTar stuff so

[foggy lodge]

DOUBLE MISS

[spiral ridge]

im sure he has a good reason

[bold geode]

Did Game 2 already?

[foggy lodge]

Yes

[bold geode]

Ah
YouTube is behind

[spiral ridge]

game 2 just started for me

[bold geode]

NAH

[spiral ridge]

damnnnn

[dusty gate]

[foggy lodge]

i'm watching the victory road stream tho

[bold geode]

NAH

[spiral ridge]

idk why i was suprised maxi just said it lmfao

[foggy lodge]

i think victory road goes ahead lmao

[bold geode]

See I was hoping it was a double Heat Wave miss

[spiral ridge]

nice taunt

[dusty gate]

You might be able to catch up if you're behind the broadcast by increasing playback speed.

[bold geode]

He just gave up that Gholdengo
Idk if that's great

[bold geode]

I mean it's not too bad
Maxi is watching a different stream so

[foggy lodge]

oh tera blast fucking killed

[spiral ridge]

flip turn getss it

i love the immediate screaming in the background after 😭

[spiral ridge]

+1 so

[bold geode]

Renzi played super well

[spiral ridge]

yeah renzo fucking cooked

[bold geode]

Gonna be waiting a min for next match lmao

Smith vs Cox, that's a match

[foggy lodge]

I think Eric won against Justin Tang

[bold geode]

I forgot Cunha is in T16

Cunha did make top 4 at last IC

[foggy lodge]

NAIC?

[dense latch]

renzo prob played that as well as you possibly could've

[bold geode]

Yeah iirc
He lost in top 4 to Aurelien Soula

[foggy lodge]

oof

[bold geode]

I'm sorry but I just saw this

https://x.com/El_Chapo_cat/status/1841747787144147129?t=yZP5G0xURNgX10L8cmQL2A&s=19
No shot

El Chapo (@El_Chapo_cat) on X

🇮🇳 This Indian Man has just been found in a cave.

It’s alleged he’s 188 years old.

Twitter · Oct 3, 2024, 7:51 AM

[foggy lodge]

what the fuck

[bold geode]

No shot he's that old
That'd break the fucking record by like 60 years

Although some people joking like "Jake Paul next opponent" lmao
The memes are already upon us and I am here for it

[dense latch]

lmaoo

[spiral ridge]

lots of stories like this pop up from time to time and then nothing more comes

[dense latch]

yeah i see an alleged 150+ year old found in a cave every year

[spiral ridge]

thje current record is a french woman who smoked and drank every day and i think if youre gonna be that old that is how youd get through your day

[bold geode]

Yeah smoking is bad yet she did that shit

[foggy lodge]

lmao

I remember that she said she just enjoyed her life

[spiral ridge]

only french i respect. and the cheese makers cus i fucking love charcuterie

[foggy lodge]

So yeah drink and smoke that probably works to be inmortal

[bold geode]

Ashton won

[spiral ridge]

adult lunchables theyre so fucking good

[bold geode]

Deadass

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-sukuna-peak-fiction-absolute-cinema-gif-8477083568112127482

stacked LAIC

[dense latch]

maybe when you smoke enough it actually has the opposite effect

lmao

[chrome knot]

go ashton cox

[spiral ridge]

when you break the integer limit on a 32 bit system and it goes the opposite way

[chrome knot]

reppin agency

[dense latch]

like diminishing marginal returns but reversed or smth

[bold geode]

I mean they do say for some people if they smoke cigarettes long enough that it's actually better to keep doing so instead of stopping

[dense latch]

it's like that bug where regieleki gets so fast it actually begins to underspeed pokemon under tr

[bold geode]

I remember one 100 year old person (don't remember gender)
But when someone asked them what they do, apparently they credited their long life to drinking Dr Pepper every day

[foggy lodge]

pok emon

[patent marsh]

both my grandmothers was just a little less than a decade away from it I cannot fathom living that long

[tranquil kraken]

jake paul next opponent

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-gif-21327280

[tranquil kraken]

did u shower today monke

[bold geode]

[tranquil kraken]

[spiral ridge]

he showers in a daily time frame?

thought it was weeks

[bold geode]

This guy

I shower daily

[spiral ridge]

maybe one day youll look it

[bold geode]

I just shower at night because I fuckin hate showering then just getting fuckin dirty right after

[spiral ridge]

im a night shower person too

[chrome knot]

LOL o hell nah

[bold geode]

Are they doing a Top 8 match rn lol

[spiral ridge]

stinky

[bold geode]

Now if we wanna really ask
Emma no shower

[chrome knot]

i shower after worky

[foggy lodge]

Eskolinnnn

[chrome knot]

i hate smelling like mcdonalds it makes me sick

[bold geode]

Same
I also do once a day
I ain't tryna pay high water bill lol

[patent marsh]

Charizard again

[spiral ridge]

bro is immediately throwing a haymaker tera t1 he dont fucking care abt FO pressure

[foggy lodge]

wait what

[spiral ridge]

that tera blast did a ton

[foggy lodge]

i guess blood moon kills P2

[tiny karma]

Move: Blood Moon

Cannot be selected the turn after it's used.

Type

Normal

Category

Special

Power

140

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[spiral ridge]

140 ok

thought was 120 oops

[foggy lodge]

280 BP with tera

[spiral ridge]

teehee

just spread time right? psy HV

ah slept

does a fuck ton tho

[foggy lodge]

HALF HP

Ah it was a crit

[spiral ridge]

OH CRIT RIGHT BACK AT HIM

[foggy lodge]

ok crit x crit fair

[spiral ridge]

his unburden means no sleep spam sweet

zzz

why not cc?

oh yeah seed was confused for a sec

surprised he isnt killing p2

OH DAMN

[bold geode]

That's nuts

[spiral ridge]

he needed to protect bm probably

eh actually his deedee doesnt have anything to hit incin nbm

[chrome knot]

he cant

[spiral ridge]

yeah

[chrome knot]

marco fiero is playing this insanely well

[spiral ridge]

why are you a pillow

marco is doing super well

[chrome knot]

bc maya said she was gonna beat the shit out of her pillow

[spiral ridge]

😭

why wisp wouldnt p2 just use its special atk now?

[chrome knot]

modest p2 is always spatk using cx

[spiral ridge]

yeah that too im confused

[bold geode]

CUNHA LOST

[foggy lodge]

Eric is going to stream i think

[chrome knot]

@bold geode VICTORY ROOOOAADDDDDD

[bold geode]

VICTORY ROOOOOOOAAAAADDDD

[foggy lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-music-monkey-monkey-listening-to-the-music-monkey-chill-vibin-gif-24320967

[chrome knot]

man i wanna be in a pokemon music video

i should get better at this game or somethijg

[foggy lodge]

TAZITA TOP 8

https://tenor.com/view/sinistcha-sinischeer-pokemon-scarvio-tea-gif-15663703197998161078

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/sinistcha-pet-petpet-pokemom-gif-3068309029851481452

who made all these fucking gifs LMFAO

[foggy lodge]

Dude yes

Why are there so many Sinistcha gifs lmao

https://tenor.com/view/sinistcha-yabasocha-stare-tea-matcha-gif-18380337179836314107

[spiral ridge]

its all one artist

[foggy lodge]

wait that Buzz is slow

[spiral ridge]

yuh]

[bold geode]

Turboluna?

[foggy lodge]

why did he ignore Ursa

[spiral ridge]

did he forget grass terrain heals first?

[foggy lodge]

yes looks life its turbo Ursa

Probably around 95 speed?

or is the Sneasler adamant

ain't no way its jolly Ursaluna

[bold geode]

It's either 87 or 95 final speed

You need at least 87 to even begin to think about outspeeding Sneasler if Adamant
95 minimum for Jolly

[spiral ridge]

no e speed on dnite just noticed

yo this sinistcha is fucking cooking

https://tenor.com/view/sinistcha-crawl-crawling-from-hell-appear-hello-gif-9238942056163443553

[foggy lodge]

why is that a mini Electabuzz lmao

[spiral ridge]

i love hwo victor just
abababababababa

NOOO SINISTCHA

shoulda bp there no?

or steel

38 damage cc super effective STAB 😭
i love stamina

ggs

good shit victor

[bold geode]

Are they showing every top 8?

[foggy lodge]

guys i think he is good at pokemon

Pick Dengo here pls

DUDE

DOUBLE BURN

i think its joever

[tiny karma]

Move: Bloom Doom

Power is equal to the base move's Z-Power.

Type

Grass

Category

Physical

Power

1

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

1 (1.6)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[craggy dagger]

oh it’s a Z move wtf

[bold geode]

Hai bestie

Yeah Rios gone

[foggy lodge]

lowkey why does always happens something to eric when he plays on stream lmao

[bold geode]

Are they gonna show Ashton's match too? Hasn't been reported yet unless that shit going REALLY slow

[foggy lodge]

its the full top 8

[bold geode]

Cuz it's rigged against him

[foggy lodge]

I hope Alex wins

[dense latch]

LFG RENZO 🔥

[foggy lodge]

lmao

tho this match was shit like double heat wave burn

[bold geode]

I hope Ashton wins honestly
Ashton vs Marco
What a lot are probably wanting
They're the only 2 with 2 IC wins on their records

[torn parrot]

The funniest shit would have been if we saw dragos exact lineup win except one mon is different

[foggy lodge]

This match should be in favor of Alex

[spiral ridge]

wow kommo made it so far

[foggy lodge]

Inci mirror herb helps a lot against clamg Kommo

[torn parrot]

Ayy it’s komoooo

Is this is the final right

[spiral ridge]

mhm

[rustic mountain]

great top 8 sets so far

[spiral ridge]

mhm

finish up soon though my ass needs a nap

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

[rustic mountain]

we got this and 2 top 4 sets so

a bit of ways to go haha i think its just the finals 2mw

[rustic mountain]

im rooting for renzo

representing latam would b cool for them to claim the w

[spiral ridge]

[bold geode]

Hey Tree
The Buzz convergence is real

Is he tryna chip his ass or something?

[torn parrot]

i dont think the adaptation of scale shot is only for sneasler, i think its also so dragons can outpace other dragons since since dragons are a threat and people dont havea ton of opportunities to run fairies or ice types

[bold geode]

Big part is Sneasler though

[foggy lodge]

its joever for Ashton

[rustic mountain]

ive noticed haha

the follow me roulette this reg has been funny

like where tf is clefable now

[foggy lodge]

picking flowers or something idk

[molten oasis]

Buzz picked back up, noted

[rustic mountain]

won a regional and then slowly fell off a cliff

[foggy lodge]

Dortmund feels fake

[bold geode]

Clefable is in the cardboard box begging for change

[foggy lodge]

Whimsicott Clefable Hydreigon won a regional and dissapeared lol

[torn parrot]

damn its crazy that that kommo is just locked out from being used cus of incin

[molten oasis]

They all lose to sneasler

[torn parrot]

actually

thats not treue kommo wns vs incin

[rustic mountain]

yea it seemed like just an early meta call that wound up having no staying power, dreigon whims and clefable are all kinda meh choices in the current meta

[torn parrot]

well maybe...

hm....

[foggy lodge]

yeah makes sense, it was a meta where it was like 8th place in usage or less

[molten oasis]

Prima also fell off pretty hard

[rustic mountain]

yea it did not beat the fraud allegations

[molten oasis]

I liked it rip

[foggy lodge]

i mean i think those 6 are still viable but need some adaptations

[molten oasis]

But Ursa came back in power

[rustic mountain]

i like the mon, its still not a bad choice but it has its issues

[molten oasis]

So I’m not really all that upset

[molten oasis]

Bloodmoon*

[molten oasis]

Ass defense stat lol

[rustic mountain]

2 shinies in top 4 nature is healing

[torn parrot]

ayoo hes going for the kommo

and then incin comes lol

[rustic mountain]

that + rilla being so prominent amongst yea just strong physical attackers it doesnt do enough and can be a tera hog. especially since tera steel heavy slam from dozo jus kos it, and that was 1 of its main things was haze stuff

[bold geode]

Yeah it's top 16 in LAIC and like idk if there's more lol

[molten oasis]

yea, we have amoonguss for dozo stuff tho

[rustic mountain]

from mdb?

[molten oasis]

And just, playing better

[torn parrot]

i hope incin enjoys the special attack boost

[bold geode]

Justin Tang

He had a Choice Specs Primarina

[rustic mountain]

ahh ok

[molten oasis]

How many incins are mirror herb?

[foggy lodge]

Michael didn't make top 16 i think

2

Eric and Alex

[rustic mountain]

yea even specs is a different call that i can see having some value. its main issue is its lack of immediate pressure, specs can remedy that

[bold geode]

At least two from top 8
Cuz both Alex Gomez and Eric Rios were running it

[foggy lodge]

Eric is already out tho

[molten oasis]

People got sick of not being able to take incin into gambit lol

[foggy lodge]

+2 atk Inci lmao

[molten oasis]

Idk how I feel about mirror herb

[foggy lodge]

Dragonite Tera Fairy looks so friend shaped

[rustic mountain]

dnite is friend shaped

[molten oasis]

What was top 12 usage?

[foggy lodge]

Scale shot crittt

[torn parrot]

i hope kommo wins

[bold geode]

Think Tang may have also had a regular Arcanine with Mirror Herb

[foggy lodge]

Yes he used arca9 with mirror

[rustic mountain]

its a good meta tech, i think its very situationally dependent on whats prominent so you know ur getting value consistently. we are in a format where boosts are so prominent i think its worth it

[molten oasis]

ig

[rustic mountain]

we saw something similar w/ water tauros in earlier formats

[molten oasis]

Yea, but Tauros fell off a cliff I didn’t think that was gonna pick up with incin

[foggy lodge]

would AV water tauros be a bad idea

[molten oasis]

Technically that makes my gambit mu easier but idk if I wanna drop goggles

[rustic mountain]

cant say i saw it myself on incin, but 2 great players picking it up and having success w/ it, like theres gta be value there

doesnt mean u have to pick it up urself tho

[molten oasis]

I also don’t really know how common amoonguss is

But also not caring about it is gonna bite me in the ass eventually

[rustic mountain]

its def fallen off recently

[foggy lodge]

has come in clutch in some games in stream so yeah looks like the mirror herb works

[spiral ridge]

sus was in top 12

[rustic mountain]

but usually wen ppl start disrespecting it, it comes back

[foggy lodge]

its a cycle

[molten oasis]

Well then I’m gonna respect it at all times lol

[rustic mountain]

smart lol

[molten oasis]

I also use amoonguss

[foggy lodge]

I remember when in reg E people thought it fell off lol

[spiral ridge]

its like tatsugiri

[foggy lodge]

Because Rilla Ogerpon Sinistcha were in many teams

[molten oasis]

Spore pressure is pretty great

[rustic mountain]

itll never truly fall off

its too good a mon

[molten oasis]

You have to nerf it kinda hard for it to actually go away

[foggy lodge]

i wonder when will Amoonguss be power crept or something

[molten oasis]

Which, they probably won’t lol

[foggy lodge]

Or if it will even be power crept one day

[foggy lodge]

nah i don't think it needs a nerf

[molten oasis]

If they make a fast spore user ig

[foggy lodge]

Amoonguss Inci are lowkey cornerstone of the game imo

[molten oasis]

I agree I’m just saying if they wanted it out of the game

[foggy lodge]

i think they would just not include it in the game lol

It wasn't in Sw/Sh until DLC

[molten oasis]

But priorities should go to the damn horses

[foggy lodge]

miraidon needs a nerf imo too

And Urshifu

[molten oasis]

Shifu’s ability if anything needs a nerf

[torn parrot]

ohhh

im rooting for kommo team

[molten oasis]

I want the horses moves to have a chance to miss or smth

[torn parrot]

i agree

[molten oasis]

Or get their stats nerfed , or be forced to hold the reins

[torn parrot]

or make it rain disadvantage

[rustic mountain]

nah

[foggy lodge]

make it 100 BP or something you can't have both 120 BP and 100 accuracy

[rustic mountain]

maybe in gen 20

[molten oasis]

And not lose special attack

[torn parrot]

nerf them to hell

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

Like the drawback of Make it Rain is the -1 special attack part

Those moves just don’t have a drawback

[foggy lodge]

gholdengo is not restricted so i don't know if you put that drawback to a restricted

[rustic mountain]

jus make it hit thru protect but only deal 30% of what it normally would

[molten oasis]

Even if it’s a restricted

[rustic mountain]

still keeps the same sentiment of breaking protect w/o making it completely broken

[molten oasis]

I get they’re supposed to be broken I don’t think that level of broken is ok lol

and it’ll only get worse as time goes on

[torn parrot]

yeah, i tghink there are well balanced restricteds and unfair broken ones

[foggy lodge]

ok so question which horse is more broken

[rustic mountain]

close g2 there

[foggy lodge]

I think Caly-I is more broken

[rustic mountain]

g3 hype

[molten oasis]

The one that performed better

So ice rider

In Tera format

[rustic mountain]

i think once teras gone they will feel much more manageable

[foggy lodge]

im already in like turn 3 of g3 lol

[molten oasis]

Without Tera in mind shadow rider is worse

And I get to actually bblade one with zacian for once

[foggy lodge]

spam follow me make it

whatttt

[molten oasis]

Tera pushes them so far imo

[rustic mountain]

theyll still b very strong but tera kinda created the perfect storm for them, w/ that being said they also didnt win worlds haha

[molten oasis]

Those typings are ass lol

Defensively

[foggy lodge]

i mean Caly-I almost won worlds

[rustic mountain]

yea

[molten oasis]

Miraidon proved stronger

[foggy lodge]

idk i think Caly I is still better than Mirai haha

[molten oasis]

Yk what a lot of that team was weak to?

[rustic mountain]

i meant as strong as they are even now they still couldnt convert on the highest lvl

[foggy lodge]

which one

[molten oasis]

Mirai team

[foggy lodge]

ohhh

[molten oasis]

Mirai shifu whimsi valiant all don’t like Zac

[foggy lodge]

Yeah when i tested Zac it worked against that team

[molten oasis]

unless Mirai gets the speed advantage

Oh and hands

Wait did it have valiant?

[foggy lodge]

Yuta had Valiant lol

[molten oasis]

He had 3 fighting types then?

[foggy lodge]

Luca's team was Miraidon, Ogerpon fire, Hands, Farig, Whimsicott and Urshifu

[foggy lodge]

Yuta had Urshifu Valiant only

Double fighting is so broken

The whole top 4 had double fighting in worlds lol

[torn parrot]

i think he'll get scale shot predicted

[rustic mountain]

slightly in ashtons favor atm but could still go either way

[torn parrot]

ye

[foggy lodge]

Rilla in extreme speed range idk

[molten oasis]

Oh no the team had Hearthflame

[rustic mountain]

? its at full

[molten oasis]

But Mirai shifu hands and whimsi is were all weak to Zac

[rustic mountain]

u must be ahead of me

[foggy lodge]

ah wait the stream im watching is ahead lol

[rustic mountain]

🤨

[molten oasis]

So if pon was out of the picture you could sweep through with Zac

[foggy lodge]

then im going to wait until the match in pkmn channel ends

[rustic mountain]

yea now rilla is low

[foggy lodge]

electroweb will miss i knowwww

[foggy lodge]

You should have tools to kill Pon

what do you think about Regidrago Zac Drago

[torn parrot]

this shit is close

[foggy lodge]

let's go alex you can do it

https://tenor.com/view/dragonite-flying-gif-20110237

why are it's wings so big wtf

WAKE UP NITE

it's joever

[molten oasis]

Ehh

I wasn’t a big fan of the team it was used on, I prefer balancey style Zac personally

[bold geode]

OH DAMN

[molten oasis]

Drago feels like it works best on hyper offense stuff with chi yu

I have chien pao, and it doesn’t eat a double up from both Zac and pao

[foggy lodge]

like the Umbreon one?

[molten oasis]

Sorta yea

[bold geode]

No way

YES

[torn parrot]

D:

[spiral ridge]

reasonable pop off on that wake up

[torn parrot]

awwwwwww

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/9c988e3db1e656fb I was playing this towards the end of reg g

[torn parrot]

!!!!

WHY DID GUY NOT CLICK SCALE SHOT

HOLY SHIT KOMMO WINS

[foggy lodge]

it was still slower

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/70277441780c7631 and I’ll probably start the next reg with this

[foggy lodge]

extreme speed crit was the only out

[torn parrot]

wait how

[foggy lodge]

Electroweb

[torn parrot]

ohhhh

ic ompletely forgot about web

HELL YEAH KOMMOOOOOOOOOOO

[bold geode]

Ashton Marco Renzo and Victor

[foggy lodge]

Renzo and Torviv pleaseeee

[bold geode]

All 4 of those guys now have Worlds invite

[torn parrot]

that waas the final right

[foggy lodge]

the final of what

[bold geode]

Nope that was top 8 match

[torn parrot]

gotcha

[bold geode]

Next are top 4 matches

[torn parrot]

awesome

[bold geode]

Should be Renzo vs Marco and Ashton vs Victor

[dense latch]

ashton vs alex def the best set we've had so far

but top 4 is so unbelievably stacked too

[bold geode]

Damn he came back from break and is like this? Wow nuts Wolfe and Ashton got World's invites after breaks, maybe if I took a break I wouldn't be so mid

[dense latch]

lmao

[foggy lodge]

sucker punch +1 doesn't kill lmao

what a one sided game

[knotty crag]

Someone here that like me to help build a good doubles team?

[foggy lodge]

DAMN THAT DAMAGE

Marcofiero defends his title tomorrow

[torn parrot]

YEEEEE

SHINY FEMALE SNEASLER

[solid frigate]

lmao

[bold geode]

GIVE ME MARCO VS ASHTON

[spiral ridge]

hide and seek dude looked like ned flanders from simpsons

[worthy lark]

Let the zard propaganda begin again

[placid mist]

You guys like my team
https://pokepast.es/c3bb8c279a5cf6a4

[worthy lark]

Feels super passive

[bold geode]

Damn
Ashton lost

[worthy lark]

Zard propaganda

[bold geode]

Still happy for Victor

Still
Rain vs Sun finals technically and it could honestly go either way

Once again if Marco gets the repeat, all 4 weathers will have claimed a title this Reg

[spiral ridge]

no more games today right?

[chrome knot]

nope

i go 3-0 at local and finish out my challenges bfl yay

174pts on the board nowsies

[bold geode]

Can't you do more and replace a finish if you do better than your lowest?

[chrome knot]

how do i replace 1st 1st 1st 1st

[bold geode]

Be 0th
Ez

[craggy dagger]

“just don’t go”

[torn parrot]

Poor ashton ):

I’m watching games now he’s getting vaporized

[spiral ridge]

Yeah :(

[bold geode]

Sit outside of the venue like a sad dog

https://x.com/CbuttyVGC/status/1857876355804811409?t=RHkEtxAJhdJJViV6H81vzQ&s=19
NOOOOO
DAMN IT NICHOLAS

Cbutty 🔜 Birmingham Regionals :) (@CbuttyVGC) on X

FUCK SAKE HES GOING IT AGAIN

Twitter · Nov 16, 2024, 8:00 PM

[molten oasis]

LMAOO

[real prairie]

I've just seen someone say the 1 in 100 evolution's of Dudunsparce and Maushold are linked... Because the extra lump in its stomach is the missing Maus 😭

[chrome knot]

watched the marco fiero t4 match

oh good heavens

[foggy lodge]

overwhat

so rain vs sun tomorrow

most of the times i'd root for Torviv but marco has already lost against rain in the finals and shit just feels unfair lol

tho i don't think this team has actually a too bad match up against rain

[digital marlin]

Hi

Where can i find pokemon sword and shield nsp i want to download it for my emulator

[foggy lodge]

xd

[cyan smelt]

we don't do that here

[quartz silo]

Out of base slowbro/slowking, which is better as a bulky mon that can dish out decent dmg too?

[torn parrot]

GUES SWHAT FUCJING DAY IT IS

https://tenor.com/view/celebration-tuvigif-himouto-umaruchan-anime-gif-7399759

ITS PIZZA AND ARCANE DAY

[spiral ridge]

hell yeah enjoy arcane its awesome

[torn parrot]

Pizzzaaaaaaa

YAAAAA

GYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

https://tenor.com/view/pizza-cheese-anime-covered-in-pizza-giant-pizza-gif-5427037

[rustic mountain]

🤨

[torn parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/pov-fnaf-security-breach-pizza-time-hungry-gif-24773529

[timber plover]

Can anyone help me with my team by battling me for tips on making it better please

[quartz silo]

Out of base slowbro/slowking, which is better as a bulky mon that can dish out decent dmg too?

[mighty stump]

They have the same stats lol

Its just the Def and SpDef are flipped

[quartz silo]

Isnt slowking better at spatk?

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 80: Slowbro

Types

Water/Psychic

Abilities

Oblivious, Own Tempo, Regenerator (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

95/75/110/100/80/30

Total

490

Other Formes

Slowbro-Mega, Slowbro-Galar

Sableye version 4.28.1

Pokémon No. 199: Slowking

Types

Water/Psychic

Abilities

Oblivious, Own Tempo, Regenerator (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

95/75/80/100/110/30

Total

490

Other Formes

Slowking-Galar

Sableye version 4.28.1

[quartz silo]

Huh, okay then

[cyan smelt]

Should I try vacuum wave ursaluna bm next to wp anger shell klawf

[knotty mirage]

I mean if you planning to use AV blood moon i guess so

[lofty tartan]

WP anger shell Klawf

[cyan smelt]

Yes av blursa

[lofty tartan]

Anger shell requires you to fall below 50% and I don't think even a +1 speed improves it very much. It's still a really bad pokemon

If you wanna play with WP silly stuff you're probably better off doing Arma or something.

But the requirement of putting it to below 50% (which you'll do for your opponent), side targeting, and allowing your opponent to basically attack unhindered seems really awful

252+ SpA Ursaluna-Bloodmoon Vacuum Wave vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Klawf: 84-100 (57.9 - 68.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

You'll even do upwards of almost 70% for your opponent.

So if they like... Grassy Glide into it you're screwed

Sneasler will still outspeed it after a +1, as well.

[cyan smelt]

Yeah I wasn't planning on bringing it against rilla

[lofty tartan]

It seems bad into a lot of matchups. I pulled a priority move out of the darkness xD

[cyan smelt]

And I calced it to outspeed sneasler after a +1 by one point

[lofty tartan]

It won't outspeed any of the Unburden Sneaslers.

I mean thars obvious.

[cyan smelt]

Well obv it's not gonna outspeed stuff like basc, dragapult or unburden sneasler

[lofty tartan]

It just doesn't seem good. Klawf isn't used for a reason lol.

It has 35 special defense

[cyan smelt]

55

[lofty tartan]

Misread that on the calc - still terrible

Like if you wanna play it then more power to you, but understand it probably won't go super well unless you catch people off guard in CTS, and even then it's questionable

[torn parrot]

byaaa

[cyan smelt]

Yeah good players will probably see what I'm trying to do

[lofty tartan]

I mention it because the other day I thought I saw you talking about how consistent higher ranked teams are then you're like "I'm gonna play Klawf and nearly ko it for my opponent" xD

[torn parrot]

i had my pizza it was so good that it made me cry

[cyan smelt]

Idk I've been having wacky ideas lately

[lofty tartan]

It's like two opposing trains of thought.

[cyan smelt]

Yeah I need to focus on consistency rather than whatever wacky ideas come to mind

What if I tried bullet seed rilla into annihilape

[solid frigate]

thats a wacky idea but idk

[cyan smelt]

Yeah scratch that

[solid frigate]

just try something Meta first then try Wacky shit

[cyan smelt]

I guess I'll try archaludon rain since that'll be everywhere after laic

[cyan smelt]

ig to learn to counter the meta you have to play the meta

[mighty stump]

Omg someone finaly gets it

Who knew an understanding of the things you’re facing allows you to help answer it better

[cyan smelt]

lmao

me fr

what was the set on that splash plate basculegion? protect, wave crash, last respects, aqua jet?

[devout mist]

lol

who made this, that shit is so funny

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/you're-a-liar-lt-frederick-manion-anatomy-of-a-murder-you're-not-being-honest-columbia-pictures-100-gif-12448506913688573190

[molten oasis]

Damn lmao

[cyan smelt]

Splash plate basculegion is fun, even in sun it does good damage

[chrome knot]

no its garbage

just use band or lorb

[cyan smelt]

Ok I'll use lorb

Powered up wave crash sounds nice

[chrome knot]

girlfriend tried it with rain @ a local went man this fucking sucks im going back to band

[cyan smelt]

Why did the guy at laic run splash plate

[chrome knot]

dont take peoples competition teams as gospel

[cyan smelt]

I also kinda want to try scarf adaptability basculegion

[chrome knot]

im using scarf adapt basc on p2 rn

adapt basc is rly funny

[cyan smelt]

What sort of kos are you getting

[chrome knot]

it makes the team playable without relying on p2

[cyan smelt]

Sounds solid

[chrome knot]

i 3-0’d my local yesterday and basc was the mvp lol

[cyan smelt]

Basc is too good

Resisting dire claw and immune to cc is huge

[chrome knot]

and immune to fake out

and wave crash is disgusting

and last respects is anti tempo

[cyan smelt]

Good to bring it in the back as a wincon

It was weird I think I just played a charcoal hyphlosion

[molten oasis]

Scarf adapt basc is based

[solid frigate]

I'm saving the picture lmao

[real prairie]

its not good, tried it lol does not do anywhere near the damage you would hope 😭

[mighty stump]

Its not meant for damage

Plus it has a fun interaction with Encore

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-7107264540211859015

[dull ibex]

As far as splash plate goes

Don't take anyone as gospel

[dull ibex]

Extra damage

No drawbacks

[next stump]

gonna take foreverrrr for VGC to come on

[bold geode]

I still don't understand this card game

[dull ibex]

What one

[bold geode]

TCG

[dull ibex]

Oh you build up sweepers

It seems kinda volatile

[bold geode]

Oh it's just setup?

[dull ibex]

There's some other stuff like control

But afaik it's a lot of big damage and smartly using it

[bold geode]

Yeah I'll just stick to clicking funny buttons

[dull ibex]

I need to stop building for tourney teams and just using what I like

[dull ibex]

I want rain and sinistcha

Without ape because I'm not really feeling ape rn

[devout mist]

Is Garchomp good rn ? I see a lot of Mons weak to Ground going around and I have only it as coverage on the grass monkey.

[next stump]

it started the format really strong but it’s not great into stuff like multiscale dragonite and a-ninetales

[solid fox]

Hello, new here and wondering if there's any places for tournaments with restricted pools like the recent Starfall event? It was fun building a team from a specific pool like that!

[next stump]

I’m sure there are 3rd party organizers that host events like that, but none that I know of really

the closest I can think of is a draft league, which our discord sponsors and there’s also plenty online too

[solid fox]

Thank you for the reply I wasn't aware of the term draft league before I'll look and see what's around!

[gentle crag]

owlmancer has given 1 Gen Rep to mlbd

[bold geode]

Look at Victor Medina's team after LAIC

[dull ibex]

What are his six?

I had an idea I wonder if it matches

[bold geode]

It was like Arch/Peli/Basc/Sini/Ursaluna/Dnite iirc?

I was a little wrong

Oh shit wait

There

Cropped last moves off on Ghold and Sini

[dull ibex]

🤔

[knotty briar]

Been trying to get to master ball with this team
Anyone got some improvements?

[chrome knot]

twin beam or psychic farig
sd gambit

-8ball fish?

[gentle crag]

fish?
:8ball: Yes

[bold geode]

Twin Beam cuz it's funny

Kill that Sneasler you giraffe

[foggy lodge]

looks too reliant on trick room when you only have one trick room setter

And i think Indeedee Male Sneasler cooks you

[knotty mirage]

Note to self always remember that sneasler can set up weather

[rustic mountain]

always does

[rustic mountain]

seems fine, maybe have a better tr mode tho, like ursa as ur main sweeper and kinda gambit feels meh, prim is ok but def better choices

[chrome knot]

treetreetree

[rustic mountain]

yo

[chrome knot]

hai

[molten oasis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2245709085-tuq3a6zs6si12m8sbo2424afhx63igxpw what could I have done better here?

[real prairie]

which is you?

[foggy lodge]

i suppose you are the A9 Dengo Blursa

Why didn't you parting shot in turn 4?

[molten oasis]

I was taunted

I wanted to

Well was I

[foggy lodge]

You weren't taunted in that turn

The taunt ended in turn 3

[molten oasis]

I died to Bax that turn

That’s why I didn’t pshot

[molten oasis]

The one that lost

To a Gengar

[unkempt flax]

When does reg h end again?

[molten oasis]

I anticipated a bronzong lead

[foggy lodge]

January 6th

idk Dengo here looks good

[molten oasis]

And felt blursa was a solid lead

[molten oasis]

I’m not dropping dengo

[unkempt flax]

Absolutely insane cool. I just got back into vgc after like a 6 month break, and I’ve already cooked the in game ladder
3 hours of grinding got me top 15 on in game ladder lol

I love this meta sm

I thought it was gonna end in December or something. I’ve not been up to date

[foggy lodge]

i'm not sure about the Blursa pick in the match because it doesn't really has a strong math up into anyone, helps to stall some tr turns due to the bulk it has but i think a gameplan of preventing TR could have worked better imo

[orchid silo]

Hey I’m new and I just need some people for a union circle so I can complete my Pokédex the code is VHL3YY

[real prairie]

id have maybe swapped the A9 with Amoongus once Gengar was revealed instead of Incin who was in a good place against Gengar + Bax (if you have a fire move)

[real prairie]

#1040555642668199936

[molten oasis]

So how would dengo have done any better

Dengo was immediately pressured there t1

[foggy lodge]

Maybe gameplan with Dengo tera could help as it pressured a lot into most of the mons, or Basculegion

[molten oasis]

I lose to Bax

[foggy lodge]

Bascu pressures 5/6 pokemon xd

[molten oasis]

If I Tera dengo I lose to Bax

[foggy lodge]

What's your tera?

[molten oasis]

Dragon

It was a weird mu

[orchid silo]

Game crashed new code is 2P9M18

[real prairie]

wrong chat mate

[rustic mountain]

loving the bax resurgence

[molten oasis]

:/

So different lead/brings ig

That mu sucks

[real prairie]

i just got destroyed by a water absorb tera fire belly drum Poliwrath

[rustic mountain]

if the mu is tough, think if theres any slight changes u can make to put it more in ur favor, if not and it something ur running into frequently, gta prolly consider changing more

also dragon tera dengo seems mid

[chrome knot]

water

[molten oasis]

Is water now the thing

I’ve been on dragon for a while

[rustic mountain]

idk but its wat ive been running on mine for a bit, i think generally depends how u use the dengo cuz steel is still valid on more immediate offensive sets

[molten oasis]

It’s not immediate offense dengo

[foggy lodge]

i think water is better to help Bascu, mirror and those things

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/7ff78f765229cb18

[rustic mountain]

i like water for more set up based dengo, its just a good defensive type to have

[molten oasis]

ok

[foggy lodge]

Water loses to Archa, Rillaboom, Sinistcha or those things but i think you can set it consistently removing those pieces before tera

[molten oasis]

Amoonguss dengo/Bloodmoon has been pretty consistent into Archaludon stuff

[rustic mountain]

teras are always gna have a trade off, id rather those then have my tera be weak to scale shot which is like everywhere rn

[molten oasis]

I’m comfortable with everything except basc which I’m just trying to figure out

It’s good here

Still figuring him out tho

[foggy lodge]

Do you think you need a water type

[molten oasis]

The other option is ape

Ape felt clunky

[foggy lodge]

What do you think about Nite just to have DUG

[rustic mountain]

i think i recommended solo dozo but that does put more pressure on ur dengo and bloodmoon

incin shroom dozo just feels like an insanely solid defensive fwg core

[bold geode]

How goes LAIC stream

[chrome knot]

tcg

[bold geode]

Fun lol

Guessing Masters?

[rustic mountain]

so we got like 8 hours till vgc starts

[foggy lodge]

nah its the last game from TCG masters finals

[rustic mountain]

right so 8 hours

[bold geode]

Ok not too much longer then

[foggy lodge]

atleast tcg is fun

when you understand what is happening which i don't xd

[rustic mountain]

i dont find it enjoyable personally

[foggy lodge]

its too slow for me too

[rustic mountain]

i also dont know wats happening but i dont care to

[molten oasis]

Scale miss

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

I want consistency