competitive_discussion

[iron valley]

Prankster Imprison

That's actually the only move that gets boosted by prankster lol

On that meowstic anyway

[lofty tartan]

Trick Room gets boosted by Pranskter - it becomes -6

[iron valley]

The other weird thing about Diego's team is that He has 4 trick room mons

[iron valley]

You got me on a technicality, it still goes last lol

[craggy dagger]

can go before roar

[lofty tartan]

Yeah, which Imprison will always move before TR so the Prankster here is probably only for Expanding Force locks.

[craggy dagger]

it doesn’t make much of a difference but it’s still fun

[lofty tartan]

Yeah but it doesn't look like anyone in that event was readily running Roar. Roar is more for CTS memery

[iron valley]

Yeah you don't see roar very often these days

I always enjoy seeing it get used though

[solid frigate]

At least it is used more in restricted formats

but still pretty darn rare

[lofty tartan]

Yeah because it's not very worth running in OTS

[bold geode]

That team is very odd

[craggy dagger]

yup

[next stump]

only 3 more days until LAIC

[iron valley]

Aaron Zheng is gonna be commentating I hear!

[chrome knot]

say aaahhh :3

[torn parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/coochie-cat-coochiecat-cat-sing-cat-mouth-gif-23152473

[foggy lodge]

ohhhh cool

[craggy dagger]

ooo

instead of competing

[rustic mountain]

that would imply that

[chrome knot]

pfft

[bold geode]

Hey Dillon got an odd question for ya
So theoretically how does AV Iron Hands + a Light Screen do against Terapagos?

[next stump]

should be great IMO

[foggy lodge]

destroys it

[next stump]

unless they have something that can pressure the hands to tera

[bold geode]

Ok good cuz when I was putting something together to test for when G comes back I was like "man I feel like I'm missing something, eh I'll figure it out later"
Then realized "ah shit I forgot to think about a Terapagos MU, that's actually not good"

[craggy dagger]

my brain can’t comprehend things :((((
im thinking in terms of “if you walk away from this point on the ground, you’ll get farther away to a certain point before you start getting closer to it”

[bold geode]

Tf you on about bestie

[craggy dagger]

um

the showdown link didn’t send ffs

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/3ccb250932108c41 needs a sixth

I specifically want to avoid arch pelipper

[rustic mountain]

wdym avoid like ur trynna dodge the mu entirely?

🤨

[chrome knot]

avoid using

[rustic mountain]

ty

team jus looks like ape raid boss

[dull ibex]

yeah Im not sure how to build solo ape

[rustic mountain]

ngl im not sure either. maybe solo dozo helps?

completes ur fwg core, solid water type, can exert yawn pressure if misty terrain isnt up. can be good vs regular dozo

or jus any set up in general w/ unaware

[dull ibex]

ehhhhhh maybe

[foggy lodge]

idk looks like if ape dies you are cooked

[dull ibex]

screw it basculegion

[craggy dagger]

-# avoid you cuz you stimky

[chrome knot]

wtf!!!

[craggy dagger]

-# Ms Emily is stimky

[chrome knot]

nooo

[craggy dagger]

-# yes u areeeee

[bold geode]

Emily stinky

[chrome knot]

-# noooo I not stinkyyyyy I took shower when I got home from work novaaaa :(

[bold geode]

-# Nuh Uh

[rustic mountain]

🤨

[bold geode]

-#

It's so fucking tiny lmao

[rustic mountain]

[craggy dagger]

-# fine do you want me to call you fragrant instead-

[bold geode]

-# fragrant with doodoo smell

[solid frigate]

lol

[torn parrot]

gyaaaaaaaaaaaaa

-# GYAAAAAA

-# FUCK

[craggy dagger]

-# wh???

[molten oasis]

How are you doing that

[solid frigate]

lol

[craggy dagger]

-# that’s a secret

[spiral ridge]

-# :3

[molten oasis]

Tell me

We’re not gonna talk about that typo

[solid frigate]

kek

[craggy dagger]

-# humu….

-#

[solid frigate]

-# weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[craggy dagger]

-# nods nods.
-# that’s how you do it :3

[molten oasis]

-# humu….

FOUND IT

-# boom

Oh you typed it out

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/MichaelderBeste/status/1856342361330028689

MichaelderBeste (@MichaelderBeste) on X

LAIC is the tournament that decides if I'll get my 10th Day 2 in a row or not. Flight is tomorrow. Really nervous to go into the big stage with a new team but I hope it turns out good 😥

Twitter · Nov 12, 2024, 2:24 PM

He is dropping Magmar for Electabuzz

[molten oasis]

10th day 2 in a row damn

[bold geode]

@molten oasis me angy

[rustic mountain]

i mean yea hes one of the best in the world rn, still insane consistency

[bold geode]

Tree me angy

[rustic mountain]

🤨

[bold geode]

You see the new Cybertron video?

[rustic mountain]

no

i saw the thumbnail tho

[bold geode]

Coaching Bax
But more importantly

A fucking Tera Electric Magmar
Aka
One thing I tested out before lmao

[rustic mountain]

so ur angry cause someone else found success w/ it?

[bold geode]

Yes
I'm angy cuz I dropped it and then someone else picked it up lol

[rustic mountain]

i mean its 1 mon and tera cant be that upset

[bold geode]

Oh dude changed it to Fairy lol

(I'm not actually upset, it's a joke)

[rustic mountain]

ahh ok lol

currently rank 444 on cart 😎

[torn parrot]

DAMN NICE!

[rustic mountain]

hopefully can have some time to make a push for top 100

[torn parrot]

youll fuckin crysh it

[rustic mountain]

maybe

had a fun run just before 5 game win streak, was getting ribbons on some mons for a friend, actually brought 3/5 to some games

i wanna try some other teams but my comfortability w/ this current team is just unmatched

[solid frigate]

ok the Overpowered ones should be Litten-

[molten oasis]

Why

[solid frigate]

because he is angy of not getting his Monke shaped nuggies

[torn parrot]

whatchu got cookin?

im curious

[bold geode]

Read above

[bold geode]

Gimme gorilla biscuits

[solid frigate]

buy it yourself

[molten oasis]

Ah, Monke is a literal child

[rustic mountain]

pretty standard rain

basc-peli-arch-incin-shroom-dengo

though the last 5 games i was swapping out stuff to get the ribbons. had sneasler and rilla over shroom dengo, then hatterene ursa and cinderace all over dengo. only wound up bringing sneasler, rilla hatterene to games tho

[bold geode]

Nah

[solid frigate]

Yuh uh

[torn parrot]

defintely sounds like a comfy team

[dull ibex]

is this a singles meme?

if not where is litten

[solid frigate]

casual standpoint moment

[dull ibex]

where is litten 😭

[rustic mountain]

strong team + having experience w/ it is a deadly combo

😎

[craggy dagger]

-#
-# indeed i did

[cyan smelt]

would dual weather be viable

[craggy dagger]

it’s not recommended and would be really hard to pilot but it would be interesting

[cyan smelt]

yeah ik it's advanced was just wondering

man bullet seed rilla seems super annoying lol

arch is just way too strong atm

[mighty stump]

Just be stronger

[polar canyon]

It actually did leave

Thank goodness I managed to reply just in time

[polar canyon]

This why I can only play with weezing now

No rain

Ursa bm sweeps

No stamina

[tiny karma]

Move: Air Slash

Has a 30% chance to make the target flinch.

Type

Flying

Category

Special

Power

75

Accuracy

95

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Slicing

Boosted by Sharpness.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[bold geode]

Nah I think Infernape gets it still

[chrome knot]

the “overpowered” ones should be litten grookey popplio xd

[solid frigate]

exactly lmao

literally teh best 3 starters

each type

[real prairie]

Most people view it from a playthrough perspective not competitive.

@mighty stump you wanna come visit and spade my cat? 🤣 its so bloody expensive now, it used to be free lool

[solid frigate]

Casual Standpoint is just weird now that i think about it

[real prairie]

yep, every pokemon i look at now i look through competitive lenses

[solid frigate]

i'm sorta both but mostly comp

also wait are you using Ludicolo Kyogre Team in Birmingham and EUIC right

[real prairie]

any news on B'ham yet?

yeah thats the plan

[solid frigate]

no not yet

[solid frigate]

I think i can share the team but i only shared my team in my own server

[chrome knot]

meta will shift

[solid frigate]

i know,which make sense especially for restricted formats

[real prairie]

I have something outlined a little like this atm https://pokepast.es/7cb44ad97979ea5b

[solid frigate]

i shared the team in the dms

[real prairie]

had some positive runs with F-Indeedee with healing wish at one point over Shroom

[real prairie]

cheers, ill have a look

[gentle crag]

oneofakindof has given 1 Gen Rep to morrispxg456

[chrome knot]

also if its ur iron crown team youve sent it here already awhile ago

[solid frigate]

the old one or the new one

[chrome knot]

idk the difference

[solid frigate]

cuz i think sent both but nobody really mattered that much

and i think its Crown landorus one

[chrome knot]

bc format was dead unless you went to worlds

[solid frigate]

thats before worlds lmao

but yeah agreed

[chrome knot]

format was dead unless you went to naic

as a last chance qualifier for worlds

[solid frigate]

you think i have Enough money for going to US-

[chrome knot]

i meant overall

not just to you lol

[solid frigate]

i mean if i have money and no school work i would want to go to NAIC just to compete

reminder i am still 18

[chrome knot]

ok

[slate wren]

Someone playing TCGpocket? Pls share your deck 🙂

[solid frigate]

buddy this is for VGC Compeititive

#tcg_pocket_discussion here to TCGpocket you go

[night flax]

what iv's do i train up on a modest charmander? (in sw/sh) idk if i should do 252 spatk , 252 spe an 4hp or 252 spatk , 252 hp an 4 spe

[solid frigate]

I love Tornshifu dynamic lmao

[solid frigate]

Charmander or Charizard-

[night flax]

charizard i meant

sorry

[solid frigate]

4hp/252SpA/252 Spe
Modest or Timid

[night flax]

ive been tryna get 6x31 charmander by eggs all day today and everytime i think of that line its just charmander in my head-

[night flax]

alright thank u

[gentle crag]

krystal0794_92370 has given 1 Gen Rep to morrispxg456

[night flax]

modest zard here i come, yippie ;_;

[solid frigate]

it depends honestly,for G-Max Zard right?

[night flax]

yeah

i can tell you the moves i have for it, their all special so thats why id run modest but i second guess alot

[solid frigate]

yeah modest should be fine

[night flax]

alright, thanks

[polar canyon]

For competitive or just to use casually?

[night flax]

a mix of both

[polar canyon]

For competitive I'd advise against it

Unless you understand that it's not a really great pokemon and still want to use it regardless

[chrome knot]

WHAT

zard is gross rn

[polar canyon]

If you still want to use it, probably timid max speed max spatk 4 hp

[chrome knot]

bro does not look at results😭😭😭

[polar canyon]

With specs or life orb, along with some pokemon that can set harsh sunlight

[foggy lodge]

50% HP to a Dondozo +2 with zard yesterday

Thing nukes lmao

[polar canyon]

It's for swsh

[chrome knot]

IT WAS EVEN BETTER IN SWSH ARE U CRAZY

[foggy lodge]

but in swsh zard was good

[polar canyon]

I might be misremembering things ig

[night flax]

i have sunny day on the zard along with the life orb, no idea if its a good combo im not big abt competitive and the rest of my team cant set harsh sun

[polar canyon]

Sunny day on the zard itself is not a great idea, but you're right that sun and charizard is a great combo

If you have its hidden ability

[night flax]

im gonna get the hidden ability on it aswell

[polar canyon]

Is it for single or double battles?

[night flax]

single only, i dont do doubles

[polar canyon]

I see

[night flax]

and the zard is gonna be my G-max mon aswell

[polar canyon]

If you ever get big into competitive, might be worth looking into doubles

But yeah g max zard is like in a way kinda worse than normal dmax zard

Because max flare causing sunlight is really good especially for charizard

At least g-max looks 1000x cooler

[mighty stump]

Lmao

I can't promise I'd be any cheaper dude

[polar canyon]

And like you lose max flare in exchange for wildfire or whatever it's called

[mighty stump]

Wrong tho

Gmax Zard was the meta

[polar canyon]

Hi tofu

[mighty stump]

Hello

[polar canyon]

I must be really misremembering things

[chrome knot]

@mighty stump i saw this adorable cardigan that i just had to order

[mighty stump]

The DoT is omegabusted

[polar canyon]

For singles?

[mighty stump]

omg did you see the new vandythepink collab

[chrome knot]

nnoooo

[mighty stump]

Oh Singles, idfk

[polar canyon]

Been a while how've you been

[mighty stump]

THE JEANS ARE SLAYYYYYYYY

[night flax]

i would try an run the risk on getting g-max shiny 6x31 iv with the HA (hidden ability) but ive been dealing with 5x31 charmanders for the past 6 hours and thats the longest egg hatching spree ive ever done

[mighty stump]

Touching grass

Been good

[polar canyon]

Same

[chrome knot]

OH WAIT I DID SEE

[mighty stump]

omg lemme send emma

YOU DID

ITS SLAY

I WANT

[chrome knot]

THE JACKET IS CRAZY

[mighty stump]

I CANT DECIDE BETWEEN THE REGULAR COLOUR OR THE ALL BLACKS

[chrome knot]

ALL BLACK FOR SURE

[polar canyon]

Touching asphalt and cement mostly but at least not stuck at home

[mighty stump]

I;'ve been on a "im gonna buy a watch" binge

Its bad

lmaooo

I';ve bought like 3 watches in the span of 3 weeks

[chrome knot]

pfft

[mighty stump]

Nothing expensive mind you

[chrome knot]

i watched movie with gf last night and i got brain blasted so hard lmfao

[polar canyon]

Good luck with that, if you're doing it for the stats you're better off with bottle caps

[mighty stump]

Picked this one up just recently

[polar canyon]

If you want to have a charizard that's shiny 6iv for the sake of it being extra rare, good luck

[chrome knot]

sheesh

[polar canyon]

No numbers, unreadable fr

Slash j just in case

[mighty stump]

hahaha

Its a 28mm so its cute and dainty

in conttast

[polar canyon]

I know how to read analog clocks but understand why some people don't

[mighty stump]

Got this limited edition Timex Ironman

[night flax]

i like grinding so id rather not use bcaps for the time being

[mighty stump]

Just ordered it, Japan exclusive too

[polar canyon]

About 1 in 31 of your shiny charmanders is gonna be 6iv, have fun

On top of a decent chance that it's not hidden ability assuming you don't wanna use an ability patch either

[polar canyon]

That looks nice

[night flax]

https://tenor.com/view/hazbin-hazbin-hotel-niffty-yay-pain-yay-gif-13022719197831054937

[polar canyon]

I'm not really a watch guy so I don't get like what the big deal is

[mighty stump]

between the both of them I only spent like 300 bucks too

well, maybe 350

[solid frigate]

Terapagos:Why this has to happen to me every single time-

[mighty stump]

but still

See I didn't get it either

[polar canyon]

Since nowadays no one doesn't have a phone to check the time

So is it just like an accessory meant to be pretty?

[mighty stump]

until I was looking into accessorising more

Functional and pretty

Additionally its to make you look at your phone less

Plus I use it at work

[real prairie]

Maybe not but at least I'd be putting money into the pockets of someone I know 🤣

[polar canyon]

I could start using more accessories

[mighty stump]

Watch on my wrist makes it easy to count heart rate and resp rates

Pulse, etc

[polar canyon]

That's nice

[mighty stump]

Check my appointment times if I forgot my phone in my consult room

Plus a good watch can really improve an otherwise plain outfit

It's the little things

Then it's also like status but I don't delve into that territory

[polar canyon]

Biggest reason for me not to own watches is that to me it would be functionally a very overpriced bracelet

[mighty stump]

Doesn't have to be overpriced though

I got a gorgeous casio for 50 bucks

The classic casio F91 is a great retro digital watch

20 bucks

I have a moonphase casio that was like 80 bucks that can pass for a proper dresswatch

[polar canyon]

That's really cool and all but then again if it's just to add some flair to my looks I'd just get some bracelets

Watches are cool tho

[real prairie]

I have about 150 charmander eggs unhatched on my SwSh play through, I'll hatch them over the week if you want and see if I can help speed things up

[polar canyon]

That does look pretty

I like how your keyboard looks

[mighty stump]

This stupid chunky thing was like 50 bucks

[polar canyon]

Reminds me of when I was a kid and most of them looked like that

[polar canyon]

That gotta admit I do not think looks quite as pretty

[solid frigate]

i have a similar watch like that but it run out of battery

[real prairie]

I was looking at getting one of these if we are talking watched

[mighty stump]

its an old and the only keyboard i ever customised

[polar canyon]

I'm sure you can pull off the look with it

[real prairie]

Watches*

[mighty stump]

What would you wear it with tho

[polar canyon]

I feel like I'm being watched

[chrome knot]

cute

i jus have a yuki aim collab keyboard

[polar canyon]

This is cute

[real prairie]

Anything, it's sort of a statement piece. Stands out for itself and draws attention

[mighty stump]

I want one of these one day

Cartier Santos

Cheapest I can see is about

4 grand

That's when I know i've made it

Oh an additional pro of watches: a good luxury watch is an asset

Like an investment

[real prairie]

Correct

[polar canyon]

Wonder why all roman number watches have the wrong roman 4

[mighty stump]

Not the reason why I'd want one, but its a nice cherry on top

Even cheap vintage stuff can appreciate in value

Not always, but yeah

[real prairie]

Peaked my interest now...

[mighty stump]

Cause a roman 4 is IV

[polar canyon]

Google has multiple different answers idk which one to believe lol

It says it was an affront to a god back in ancient rome because it was upside down

It also says some French king told a watchmaker to do it

[real prairie]

I like this one:

When Roman numerals were in use by the Roman Empire, the name of the Romans' supreme deity, Jupiter, was spelled as IVPPITER in Latin. There was a feeling that using the start of Jupiter's name on a clock dial, and it being upside down where it fell, would be disrespectful to the deity, so IIII was introduced instead

[polar canyon]

Also says that it just makes it look nicer basically

[mighty stump]

either way

Do you wanna see a really crazy watch

If I could own any crazy watch

I want this one

Well theres two

[polar canyon]

You know what's a really crazy watch

Killer bean forever

[mighty stump]

The first is the CVDK Grand Planetarium

[polar canyon]

I watched that whole movie on youtube with friends some years ago it was an experience

Really crazy watch

They made such goofy looking characters for such a goofy looking movie

Then made it actually have really intense writing and scenes

Peak cinema

[mighty stump]

One of a kind

This is the Cosmopolis, with 12 different meteorite inserts

[chrome knot]

@mighty stump look how cute

[polar canyon]

Like, actual pieces of meteorite?

[mighty stump]

omg cute

[mighty stump]

Correct

[polar canyon]

That is pretty adorable

[mighty stump]

Bits of moonrock

Mars rock

Asteroids

Basicallt space debris that landed on Earth found its way onto that watch

[polar canyon]

They sent the clockmakers to mars

I think last time I wore a wrist watch I was a child

[mighty stump]

I CANT DECIDE

[polar canyon]

It's only on the back?

[mighty stump]

yur

[polar canyon]

I like the first because it looks more subtle

There's probably more ways to dress with it that look good

[polar canyon]

persistence of memory

[real prairie]

The machine HM4 is wild too

[polar canyon]

I wonder how starfish and mussels know where they're going when they're moving

Is there a mussel Pokémon

Cloyster looks like a mussel but it's clearly named after an oyster

[real prairie]

Shelder?

[mighty stump]

crazy

[polar canyon]

Wait that's a watch?

I looked quickly and thought it was car headlights

[real prairie]

this is what it looks like from the top

well, a similar one.

[solid frigate]

why does that like binnoculars-

[molten oasis]

I like the more subtle ones

[real prairie]

Black

[mighty stump]

Black it is

[real prairie]

goes with more stuff

[polar canyon]

Binoculars

What's the point of a watch like that

Makes it harder to look at the time and you can't seriously tell me it looks nicer than a normal watch

[night flax]

nah its okay

thanks tho

[real prairie]

I'd argue it's easier to see the time on it naturally, you just look at your wrist and don't need to twist your wrist to see. As for the shape, it absolutely doesn't look nicer than a normal watch I agree

[tawdry yarrow]

best ability in pokemon universe?

opportunist imo

[molten oasis]

Huge Power, Hadron Engine/Orachium Pulse, Intimidate

[polar canyon]

You could just say wonder guard but that's almost cheating

[chrome knot]

Grimm Neigh/Chilling Neigh
Protosynthesis/Quark Drive
Sword/Beads of Ruin
Intimidate
Regenerator
Weather Setting Abilities

[mighty stump]

Ackchuallt it’s Klutz

[chrome knot]

how about you fucking explode

[mighty stump]

👁️ 👄 👁️

[craggy dagger]

-# stimky

[chrome knot]

-# noooooo :(

[bold geode]

🫵👁️👁️

[torn parrot]

Had a dream that Chris Chan was here

Don’t let Chris Chan in

[chrome knot]

maya wtf cx

[plain drum]

[spiral ridge]

Oh god he’s here

[plain drum]

Wow

[atomic portal]

im already here

[plain drum]

The fuck

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-it-right-there-scumbag-south-park-s4e6-cartman-joins-nambla-put-your-hands-up-gif-21961948

[spiral ridge]

I was meaning to call you him but I guess someone else took the title 😭

[plain drum]

Yeah nah don’t ever

[spiral ridge]

Fair

[lofty tartan]

Anyone wanna see the inside of a Switch?

I'm well outside of warranty and replacing my battery xD

Thing is totally depleted so I want a fresh battery for Toronto

[spiral ridge]

Nice

Put on custom shell while you’re at it

[lofty tartan]

Like a plastic exterior shell?

Nah I have stickers on the back of my switch that my kid gave me for luck 😄

[spiral ridge]

Uh there’s third party shells you can swap on. Think dbrand has some

[spiral ridge]

Ahh cute and yeah you’d fully lose the stickers then not just hidden

[lofty tartan]

Yeah I don't mind the typical shell. Plus Switch 2 is coming so I don't wanna invest more. Battery was 20 bucks xD

[spiral ridge]

True

[tiny peak]

Hey guys it's probably nothing but looking at evs for my sneasler I went full attack full speed and rest hp, on showdown and master dex every stat matches except the hp, it should be 302 but in game says 301, everything is right nature and all that and I've check the other stats to lower them but said they can't go lower and it is hyper trained at level 100

Why doesn't it match?

[foggy lodge]

how does the stat graphic look

[tiny peak]

What do you mean?

[foggy lodge]

there is a stat graphic on the pokemon

[tiny peak]

Let me boot up my game and I'll take a pic

[foggy lodge]

press L in that graphic and it should show how the ev look

[tiny peak]

I've double checked even on the damage calculator putting in evs and hp should be 302

[foggy lodge]

it doesn't let you give it feathers?

[tiny peak]

Nope and I've tried berry's to reduce the stats I'm not using in case I accidentally got evs somewhere else

But it won't take anymore vitamins and I've killed a few hp mons with power weight on

[foggy lodge]

huh

[tiny peak]

Yeah it's the weirdest thing, only time I've seen it do that is I had a zacians who's stats in game was lower than master dex when it was the same evs lol

So I gotta ask, cause I'm very ocd lol, does it matter as long as the atk and speed are maxed out anyways?

[torn parrot]

hey king

hey fam

oh you already trie dthe ev reducing berries nvm

hyper trained too?

[tiny peak]

Yeah I mean it's thankfully not bothering me too much but my ocd is like why do all the rest of the stats match but not that one, yeah all hyper trained, level 100 can't take any more evs etc

[torn parrot]

you reduced berries in eevry other stat and your sure?

[tiny peak]

Yup

[torn parrot]

nah we have to fix that

its gonna bother me too

[tiny peak]

Even showdown says the hp should be 302

[torn parrot]

this is so wacky

theres one thing to try

[foggy lodge]

me yesterday

[torn parrot]

reduce your attack and speed, then add an ev until it reaches 302

then put the attack and speed back

[foggy lodge]

that shouldn't help

[torn parrot]

i know

uhh shit

[lofty tartan]

Just use a fresh start mochi and clean the EVs entirely. If everything is hyper trained, that's the only explanation - you're missing an investment somewhere that needs to be reduced

[foggy lodge]

you are completely sure it is hyper trained?

[lofty tartan]

But overall it's one hp on a glass cannon mon that usually runs sash 🤷

[foggy lodge]

30 and 31 ivs are the same at level 50 but different at level 100

[torn parrot]

fresh start mochi seems excessiveee

[tiny peak]

Looked at it several times I'll take another look here in a minute I'm finishing something up on fallout

[torn parrot]

maybe try putting the reeducing berries in eevery stat again

[lofty tartan]

We are not the same

[foggy lodge]

just save before giving it

[torn parrot]

somewhere there must be stray evs

its the only way

gaaaah

[tiny peak]

Well I reduced the speed by one berry knocked out one mon and got the hp to 302 but now can't max out the speed back

I'm gonna save and try a fresh start mochi and try that

Well that worked I'm gonna see if I can fix it without having to do that now

Well crap only way is to reset it And buy vitamins ugh

[lofty tartan]

Item printer for ability patches. Buy vitamins. Profit.

[tiny peak]

@lofty tartan I don't use glitches in pokemon games

[lofty tartan]

They're not glitches lol

[tiny peak]

I'm pretty sure it's rare to get ability patches unless you dupe or something with it

[lofty tartan]

Item printer results are determined by seeds based on system clock.

No. It's not duping either.

People figured out the seed results for times.

[tiny peak]

And it's not messing with the switch time? Cause I don't do that either

[lofty tartan]

Irregardless an item consumed is just an item consumed. It doesn't show anything except that on the mon

I play in regionals and random checks happen. I don't risk anything

My roommate got checked the last regional we went to

But if you don't change your system clock then you can't do the item printer thing. 🤷

[tiny peak]

You can use it legit

[lofty tartan]

But system clock changes aren't illegal either

[tiny peak]

Just not the duping stuff

[polar canyon]

Literally a thing you can do with the switch

[lofty tartan]

The items you get are created by the game

[polar canyon]

Why would they make a built in feature illegal

[lofty tartan]

So doing the item printer thing by changing system clock is not illegitimate

[tiny peak]

I get that but I view changing the time clock thing as glitching

Also

[lofty tartan]

Uh. Lol. Okay.

[polar canyon]

Well guess that's your point of view

[lofty tartan]

Can't help ya then

[polar canyon]

But not the point of view of the people who make the rules

[tiny peak]

I mean I don't need to alter my time clock to play for certain outbreaks just save the day before and you can reload the game and retry for example

I'm not hating on it though, I just don't do it lol

[polar canyon]

You're like that mole miner from animal crossing

[lofty tartan]

[tiny peak]

@polar canyon nah just picky of where I do glitches and stuff, like fallout 4 for example I don't mind using dupe methods there

Just don't wanna mess my switch up

[lofty tartan]

I mean this isn't duping, glitching, or messing anything up

[tiny peak]

And yeah I know it won't, but just how my brain is wired towards it

[polar canyon]

You can just like set the time back to normal after

[lofty tartan]

Personally I don't care what you do, but for others that lurk it should be clear that this method doesn't hurt anything nor is it illegitimate

It's efficient and I like to have options when building for VGC

Being limited by resources and game pieces is silly

It's like not being able to afford a Queen in chess. Doesn't make sense

[tiny peak]

Your not really limited, you just have to work for getting more of the stuff but like I said not hating or trying to start something

[lofty tartan]

I work for my stuff. I go out and catch my shinies, I run my calcs, I test my teams. Lol

Spending an inordinate amount of time gathering resources and stuff is arbitrary

I run around lakes and get feathers for EVs, but bulk stats via vitamins? Time spent is irrelevant

[lone spindle]

https://pokepast.es/a982cd0199ca3b7b

Trying to make a sand team, need help filling the next slots for vgc

Idk much about team building

[torn parrot]

as a wolfey simp i wonder if wolfey is going to laic

[molten oasis]

Why wouldn’t he

[next stump]

you could consider a supportive pokémon like amoonguss and a special attacker like primarina to round out a fire/water/grass core

Corviknight also likes sand, so you can try that out too

2 days until LAIC

[bold geode]

I think he's not because he did say he was taking a break until January essentially
Unless internats are exception

[lone spindle]

Would a breloom fit?

[next stump]

you could try it, but it’s probably strictly worse than amoonguss

[lone spindle]

Basically looking for a spore user?

Or is there a role with those 2 mons

[molten oasis]

Disappointed in a game I won if I clicked Bloodmoon over hyper voice

Didn’t think hyper voice would do under 50% to a jumpluff

And then I got 3 turn slept twice

[next stump]

amoonguss offers redirection + spore + healing through pollen puff whereas breloom is mostly fast spore + fighting damage

not bad, but not really what the team prefers IMO

but with everything, test it and try it

[torn parrot]

probably for the best

[molten oasis]

Wolfey wants the horse back lol

[solid frigate]

lmao

imagine using Horses couldn't be me

[bold geode]

I might do the same tbh
Nothing looks fun or interesting and if it does, it just flip flops too hard

Shame there's not more outlets for Regulation G testing
Hm

[molten oasis]

I kinda just play a few games every day right now

May grind again next reg

[molten oasis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2243403467-swus6iw6zrbec3vxpy1o34sspc5901upw I feel like I pulled that win out of my ass lol

[solid frigate]

Gunk Shot Ape-

what

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

Here’s my question did I deserve that win or not

Cuz idt I played that well

[chrome knot]

no the entire room played

questionably…

[molten oasis]

So I played poorly cool

I can improve on the ape mu later cuz that mu is really annoying

[rustic mountain]

lemme actually watch i just saw gunk shot ape

[molten oasis]

If it had bulk I think I lost on the spot I played that lead really bad

[rustic mountain]

so

i think leading incin directly into ape isnt the best. i think trynna go all in t1 while friend guard is active w/ tera blast is showing ur hand way too early, loses u tera flexibility going forward and prolly doesnt even get u the ko there, gotta be able to think about damage trades and trade offs and how that will effect the outcome going forward in the game. i think double protect w/ shroom was weird but u were in a bad spot, hyper voice was safer wen u went for earth power on ursa bm.

also if they protect ape the last turn u also just lose which isnt really an end game u wanna rely on. idk if id say deserve or not deserve the w, cause like u did get the w. but its def important to realize ur approach wasnt optimal and even though u got the win there, u gta be able to identify the things u can do different to improve the mu

even in wins where i do extremely well i usually still find multiple turns i probably couldve made better choices

[mighty stump]

If you’re concerned about Ape and Maushold

You really need to be very clear on your turn 1

[rustic mountain]

yea

thats a good point

[mighty stump]

Basculegion + something else faster than Maushold would have been ideal

Just Wave Crash Maushold and then whatever

It cracks open MausApe

[molten oasis]

I don’t

[mighty stump]

Again, any MausApe MU is dependant on Maushold being there longer than they should be

[molten oasis]

Have anything faster than maushold except basc

A9 is 2 points slower

And doesn’t really threaten ape

[mighty stump]

Okay, but also consider that Maushold support isn’t running Max Spe

[molten oasis]

I don’t disagree I led poorly, and should have hyper voiced for sure

[mighty stump]

If its running Max Spe it dies to Wave Crash

If it doesn’t, A9 is faster

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

a9 basc is is then, to test out

[mighty stump]

Ooc, why are you Tera Fairy? Not saying it’s wrong, but just wondering

[rustic mountain]

blizzard single target is gna hurt

cuz iirc u dont have moonblast to threaten the tera

[mighty stump]

Just remember to beat MausApe

• Kill Maushold
• Redirection
• Just be immune to Rage Fist

[molten oasis]

I don’t click aqua jet

And would prefer a defensive Tera for gambit which isn’t a good mu wither

Most of my teams end up being kinda shit into gambit lol

[mighty stump]

Tera Water then

?

[rustic mountain]

ive been enjoying tera grass

[molten oasis]

I mean, ig

[mighty stump]

Means that Basc can handle MausApe on their own despite havjng to sacrifice a Tera

Tera Grass is fine too but I have Water since I have terrain overwrite

[rustic mountain]

tera water seems good too

def seen plenty successful basc teams have that

[mighty stump]

Anw i agree w everything else Tree said

[molten oasis]

I do as well

[mighty stump]

Don’t listen to me too much I haven’t been playjng

😎

[molten oasis]

Nah I will y’all are the better players

[rustic mountain]

haha i havent had as much time as id like but id still say ive been trynna keep tabs on the meta

[mighty stump]

I genuinely have 0 clue what the current meta is

All I know is herheehoohoo Scale Shot Dnite

I think its sus bad but what do I know

[rustic mountain]

i mean honestly, thats one of the bigger meta shifts as of late

chomp down dnite up, semi rain resurgence

sneasler way up

[molten oasis]

I haven’t been playing much either tbf

I play a little bit every day or so

[rustic mountain]

feel like everything else is more or less the same, certain comps have shuffled or combined but they generally are what theyve been since mid format

[molten oasis]

I don’t really have any goals for the format

[rustic mountain]

im jus trynna have fun, my latest goal is going for top 100 on cart ladder

toronto unfortunately couldnt happen this szn so might as well try something else if i have the time

[mighty stump]

https://pokepast.es/80f825bc327b0ba7 wat i’ve been running still

[rustic mountain]

seems solid to me

loving the misty surge g weezing

[mighty stump]

on CTS its funny when people realise this very specific thing throws wrenches into plans

[molten oasis]

well, I appreciate the advice as always

I’m also still trying to get my mental in order for restricted

[mighty stump]

I mean

You’ve been improving that

[molten oasis]

Cuz I want to play that

I have a lot less interest in this format

I like Zac lol

[mighty stump]

Oh boy I can’t wait for Snorlax to come back in Reg I (it was never there)

[molten oasis]

Lmfao

Admittedly I got excited about this format

And then just, realized how much I hate stuff like annihilape and psyspam, maushold, stuff I don’t have to deal with as often in restricted

I prefer and feel like I do better in higher power formats

Anyway uh, thx for the advice

[mighty stump]

When higher power mons were keeping wacky shit in check

if everything is broken its balanced

[rustic mountain]

idm which im playing but id say i prefer lower power formats more

i jus like stuff getting a chance to shine that otherwise wouldnt

and generally longer games where 1 misplay isnt as costly which i like more

[molten oasis]

I like legendaries

[rustic mountain]

u know im not one of those "legends ruin the game" players but they do invalidate so many regular mons wen they are allowed haha its nice to see some others get spotlight

[molten oasis]

I think that’s valid

[rustic mountain]

ill def miss reg h wen its gone

[molten oasis]

I don’t, HATE this format

[rustic mountain]

ur jus not a fan of it

thats fine

its still important finding enjoyment even if the format isnt ur preferred imo

ik some players will just not play but idk seems kinda extreme haha

[molten oasis]

I mean, I did

I also play a lot of games this reg pretty poorly

And feel like I constantly forget some key piece on team I can’t handle well

[rustic mountain]

its ur prerogative i jus disagree with the approach simply cuz the format didnt turn out how u wanted (not u specifically speaking generally)

or oh legends or restricteds are allowed im out

i jus find it to be a cop out if ur a competitive player

[molten oasis]

I mean yea, I could have taken this format in better

I didn’t

[rustic mountain]

yea these are just my opinions too

not like absolute or anything jus how i feel

and like i said wasnt necessarily even directed at u

[molten oasis]

I also got

[rustic mountain]

was moreos speaking in general terms ive seen it all throughout my time playing vgc

[molten oasis]

So used to the “protect your Kaiju” kind of style of single restricted

So suddenly switching to, not that was really off putting

[rustic mountain]

yea cause this format is generally not that, makes it harder to know what to address or what exactly the big bad u gta knock down is wen ur playing vs something

[molten oasis]

And that play style didn’t translate very well into this format initially

[rustic mountain]

its a bit more open in that sense even if not quite the same for mon diversity

[molten oasis]

I felt like it was easier to prep for teams

[rustic mountain]

cause its lower power u cant necessarily jus chalk things off cuz u got multiple strong attackers

[molten oasis]

I mean yea, tbf I think I got better as the format went on

It took way longer so I lost interest a lot faster

Ig a goal would be to, make this current thing work

And patch the gambit sized hole in my team

[rustic mountain]

i think uve been there for the entire format ur jus really hard on urself and u spiral, thats atleast my take. the doomsday approach ive talked about w/ u before wen u gta just roll w/ the ups and downs sometimes we all go thru em

[molten oasis]

I do

It’s bad, it’s gotten better, but it’s still not good

[rustic mountain]

if ur working on it, thats wat matters

[chrome knot]

tree!

[rustic mountain]

yoyo

[molten oasis]

Yk what would patch that hole

[chrome knot]

i yapped to ryan(this time sableyevgc) about his team bc it was close to mine

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/urshifu-pokemon-pokemon-sword-and-shield-pokemon-journeys-urshifu-move-gif-24747047

[chrome knot]

learnt alot today

[molten oasis]

(I’m joking I’ll figure smth out)

[rustic mountain]

hell yea, hes a super nice guy, he kicked my ass r1 at my 1st irl lmao

[chrome knot]

pfft

we chat a bit every time i come up for locals hes rly fun

[rustic mountain]

hes one of the few vgc content creators i watch

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/79e056840d6931c7 I mean, ape, id really rather not but maybe

[rustic mountain]

def something thats around u have to respect but i dont see why u cant deal w/ it

[chrome knot]

look dms

[rustic mountain]

ok

[chrome knot]

i send replay then i go to bed

[molten oasis]

I was talking about things to deal with gambit

Ik I can deal with ape gambits the issue

Especially if Ursa dies, or it has redirection

[rustic mountain]

yea u do seem like u kinda get rolled from a decent gambit player

maybe veil + tera fairy basc gets u there. cuz atleast that way + incin u have multiple things resisting dark

[molten oasis]

I beat up a rain team once but, it had no redirect

So I could hit gambit with Bloodmoon after peli went down

[rustic mountain]

u jus gta be careful picking off the redirector w/ wave crash cuz u do a lot of damage to urself

[molten oasis]

mm, maybe

I still think even if I play it’s still a big issue with the team even if I play really well

This sucks man lol

I feel like I do nothing to put pressure on it

Besides Bloodmoon, which, still isn’t great with redirection

Could, could try volc a9

[molten oasis]

maybe these 4 https://pokepast.es/e100fc13945db0e3

Then basc and rilla maybe to start

[cyan smelt]

man these teams in bo3 are so good, idek where to start with building a team

kinda want to try coaching sneasler next to bulk up scale shot krookodile

[knotty mirage]

I have question does shell side arm use slowbro special attack or does it use the attack stat instead ?

[tiny karma]

Move: Shell Side Arm

Has a 20% chance to poison the target. This move becomes a physical attack that makes contact if the value of ((((2 * the user's level / 5 + 2) * 90 * X) / Y) / 50), where X is the user's Attack stat and Y is the target's Defense stat, is greater than the same value where X is the user's Special Attack stat and Y is the target's Special Defense stat. No stat modifiers other than stat stage changes are considered for this purpose. If the two values are equal, this move chooses a damage category at random.

Type

Poison

Category

Special

Power

90

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[mighty stump]

There you go

[strange fjord]

it uses whatever does more damage. it does a damage calc with no damage roll and see what does more damage. (it takes stat changes into account but NOT items)

so items like assault vest or choice band/specs might mess up the damage calc and do less but thats about it

[knotty mirage]

Ah so that's why when someone use belly drum slowbro shell side arm can ohko my mon i always thought it special attack only

This move is really confusing

[torn parrot]

yes

[dull ibex]

hey tofu

[mighty stump]

Whats up

[dull ibex]

just saying hi

hows work

[solid frigate]

hoi

[mighty stump]

Work was chill

Had to do a quick stitchup of a cats ass but nothing new

[dull ibex]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2243616920

[dull ibex]

fair fair

wanna vc about pokemons

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/b640a26c114e9b3f where can I go with these 2?

Kinda want ideas so I can experiment with stuff and try ti find the most well rounded team, ig

[cyan smelt]

i think i've seen dnite with a9

i'm honestly thinking about running rain because it's super strong rn

[solid frigate]

go for it

[molten oasis]

I uh, don’t wanna deal with scale shot missing on me

Admittedly, because RNGsus just, doesn’t treat me well im kinda trying to avoid inaccurate moves

[mighty stump]

sure

[cyan smelt]

Or maybe I'll try and use geezing to deny all weather

[bold geode]

Dann run it back?

[mighty stump]

hell no

[bold geode]

Yo mama

[timber falcon]

anyone here know how to use farig and Bm ursaluna

https://pokepast.es/9c70dbf4da504af9 for this team especially, my tr route isnt going well rn

[torn parrot]

@molten oasis if you know the original guys who used this combo had an annilape to help beat out kingambit and incin why not try emulate that with a different fighting type as well, it won’t have defiant of course but might help

Can work off of their thought process

[bold geode]

[torn parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/kasumi-love-live-love-live-kasumi-punch-anime-punch-gif-19285337

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/NehzzyVGC/status/1856327153958179208

Nehzzy (@NehzzyVGC) on X

Twitter · Nov 12, 2024, 1:24 PM

[vagrant ingot]

Is there an online tournament next month?

[molten oasis]

There’s not really a good fighting type to do that with

Annihilape is realistically the only option

[spiral ridge]

Sneasler?

Mental herb for intim threat

Or uh there’s P2 that do tera fighting which would be special to get around that

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 257: Blaziken

Types

Fire/Fighting

Abilities

Blaze, Speed Boost (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/120/70/110/70/80

Total

530

Other Formes

Blaziken-Mega

Sableye version 4.28.1

[craggy dagger]

[spiral ridge]

That also works well

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/e00b0ad0e427e1ce I’m just starting from these 2 atm

So there’s room for whatever

[spiral ridge]

I saw. Just commenting on the fighting issue

I’m not sure what you could go tbh there’s too many options

It’s not like it’s figuring out a hole in the team

[molten oasis]

that’s the issue there’s no real hole, mm

[craggy dagger]

idk about tera water-

[molten oasis]

It’s for sun shit

[spiral ridge]

Well the hole is just so fucking big can’t fill it with one thing 😭

[craggy dagger]

wouldn’t fire be better-
you resist ice grass

and fire-

[spiral ridge]

If you’re getting stuck in sun prob wanna swap anyways aswell

[molten oasis]

Don’t resist water in response

[craggy dagger]

cuz a wood hammer into a tera water ursa is gonna bonk hard

[spiral ridge]

Why need to resist water in sun?

If that’s the purpose

[tiny karma]

Move: Hydro Steam

If the current weather is Sunny Day and the user is not holding Utility Umbrella, this move's damage is multiplied by 1.5 instead of halved for being Water type.

Type

Water

Category

Special

Power

80

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Defrost

Thaws the user if frozen.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[molten oasis]

That’s what everyone was running at the last regional I think

[craggy dagger]

[molten oasis]

The blursa’s were Tera water

[craggy dagger]

oh

[molten oasis]

And just dealt with rilla

[spiral ridge]

Gotcha

[solid frigate]

Me moment

[molten oasis]

I mean fire sorry lol

[spiral ridge]

Yeah going with what’s played is fine

[spiral ridge]

That makes more sense 😭

[molten oasis]

The core had dengo

[spiral ridge]

That sounds good

[molten oasis]

I feel required to run annihilape, i fckn hate annihilape

[spiral ridge]

Yeah need some physical

[molten oasis]

I’ve tried amoonguss incin which did ok but was pretty bad into redirection+gambit

And the new volc team floating around kinda rolled me

[spiral ridge]

Gotcha

[molten oasis]

I’m tempted to just try smth else, idk how to put anti incin/gambit stuff without doing ape, which I could just use, I’d really rather not

[bold geode]

Where in Gdansk did you see a Tera Water BM Ursa?

[molten oasis]

When I was looking at the results

One team on stream had bloodmoon’s and they both had Tera water

[bold geode]

Ngl I see Ape with the first two

[chrome knot]

yeah i need something physical tbh

[molten oasis]

I know

That duo tends to have dengo ape snd magmar

[bold geode]

Have you considered why

Maybe Ape is part of that core or whatever

[molten oasis]

It covers for gambit and incin which the team otherwise struggles with

Ik why it’s there

[spiral ridge]

[chrome knot]

hotel booked and ride planned ^-^

[molten oasis]

I’m just gonna use smth else ig

[bold geode]

Ok

[molten oasis]

Cool team, I’m not touching annihilape

[bold geode]

Why you hate it so much

[molten oasis]

It feels bad whenever I use it and I get rolled by it in return

[bold geode]

Ok and who says it'll feel bad this go around
Ain't even give it a chance

[molten oasis]

fine

[bold geode]

I mean that's just suggestion so

Anyways back to YouTube lol

[spiral ridge]

yayyy

[inland loom]

What’s a good ev spread for sneasler?

[bold geode]

Max attack max speed 4 HP
Adamant or Jolly
Like everytime lol

[inland loom]

This is my first year trying to get into competitive

[bold geode]

Rarely does it stray from that

[inland loom]

Alrighty

[craggy dagger]

usually jolly no?

adamant is nice but you wanna go fast rather than hit hard

[bold geode]

More Jolly now probably but either works

[inland loom]

Which tera type is better for him? Flying it dark?

[next stump]

that’s awesome 🙂

[foggy lodge]

Depends on comp

Dark throat chop helps to hit Gholdengo that would otherwise completely wall it

But flying work with some teams that have EQ

I used tera flying coaching Sneasler with Chomp for a while

[inland loom]

What about singles?

[next stump]

most people here play doubles unfortunately so it’s hard to give advice for singles

[inland loom]

Ah ok

[next stump]

are you playing in game or on showdown?

[inland loom]

In game

[real prairie]

Connected my PC to a new TV, it's now a very expensive Pokémon showdown machine

Ft. My son whispering 🤣

[torn parrot]

why the fuck is this shit on season 5

[knotty mirage]

I mean why not

[torn parrot]

i guess people do eat it up

so it makes sense

[next stump]

nice setup

[real prairie]

Will get a full setup photo when the rest of the furniture arrives but Ty

[gentle crag]

oneofakindof has given 1 Gen Rep to mlbd

[next stump]

16 hours away from LAIC coverage!

[real prairie]

I've heard good things despite the ridiculous name, no idea if it's any good or not personally

[torn parrot]

that name tho...

[real prairie]

That time I was reincarnated as a slime threw me off with it's name but it's beyond brilliant

[cyan smelt]

What's gonna win laic

I'm gonna have to watch

[foggy lodge]

let's fucking goooo

[cyan smelt]

Wait that's 1am for me rip

[next stump]

where do you live? asia?

[cyan smelt]

Oceania

I'll just watch when I wake up

[foggy lodge]

It starts at 9 AM for me atleast

[molten oasis]

Is LAIC streamed?

[foggy lodge]

yeh

[bold geode]

Same time for me
Shit you CST bro?

[foggy lodge]

Nah

i'm chilean lol

[cyan smelt]

i'm australian and tpc doesn't care about us

[torn parrot]

bleh

i want it NOW

https://tenor.com/view/now-now-cat-now-now-now-now-cat-nopeify-gif-23687708

[chrome knot]

haha dumbo

[cyan smelt]

i had a stupid idea, tera ice AV skeledirge behind aurora veil

[bold geode]

Damn
It should be around 9 for me too though I think

Nvm it says 5:45 AM when I look on YT but it probably be 6 or 7

[molten oasis]

@bold geode annihilape set

Gimme plz

[bold geode]

You want Scarf Gambit or Bulk Up?

[molten oasis]

Bulk up

[bold geode]

Ah fuck mine is not mine and also outdated like a mfer

[molten oasis]

Scarf is pretty self explanatory lol

[molten oasis]

It’s a start

[bold geode]

Annihilape @ Leftovers
Ability: Defiant
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 180 HP / 36 Atk / 12 Def / 60 SpD / 220 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Rage Fist
• Drain Punch
• Bulk Up
• Protect

[foggy lodge]

https://www.youtube.com/live/QYJvYA01Iho?si=a1EGwBT9sKRUJU2q

There is the stream if someone for some reason doesn't find it lol

[molten oasis]

Ty

[gentle crag]

drayagedrago has given 1 Gen Rep to dollarmonke

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/36985c14b67d3c6b this look ok?

I like incin amoonguss, however im a bit worried about speed control tho

[bold geode]

Probably

[molten oasis]

@rustic mountain Can I get your thoughts on this?

worried on speed control

That’s really it, it was nice with basc but I think gambit is just too much of an issue

[torn parrot]

It starts at 4 am for me

Uwu

Not about to stay up for that

Stay up for an hour of filler

[next stump]

does anyone know if internationals follow the same format as regionals with 8 rounds day 1?

[cyan smelt]

I understand now why they didn't include the aura trio in sv, they would be absolutely busted with tera

[foggy lodge]

I think they should

Maybe in victory road it says it

[cyan smelt]

Maxi will we see you at laic one day

[foggy lodge]

one day

i'll go to santiago probably tho

i'm planning on taking some coaching classes with some players before

[cyan smelt]

Sounds good

[next stump]

yeah I think it will be 8 rounds day 1

[torn parrot]

xerneas chi yu combo

[next stump]

let’s hope they stream right at round 1 or 2 and don’t wait

[cyan smelt]

This is probably what they were worried about

[torn parrot]

+2 252+ SpA Fairy Aura Beads of Ruin Xerneas Moonblast vs. 4 HP / 4 SpD Gholdengo: 169-200 (103.6 - 122.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[cyan smelt]

Geez

Try dozo next

[torn parrot]

252+ SpA Fairy Aura Tera Fairy Beads of Ruin Xerneas Moonblast vs. +2 4 HP / 76 SpD Dondozo: 136-160 (60.1 - 70.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ SpA Fairy Aura Beads of Ruin Xerneas Moonblast vs. +2 4 HP / 76 SpD Dondozo: 102-120 (45.1 - 53%) -- 28.1% chance to 2HKO

not a ton but not too bad either

[cyan smelt]

Love busted restricteds

[craggy dagger]

i don’t see the geomancy boost that xerneas always sets up turn 1-

[cyan smelt]

How much does it do to unaware skeledirge or clodsire

[torn parrot]

It doesn’t exist in front of dozo

So I didn’t bother adding it

[craggy dagger]

oh wait unaware right

[solemn flicker]

Need some opinions on a Sand Team Build
So far I got
Ttar/Lycanroc/Amoonguss/Gholdengo/Primarina/Archaludon

Should I swap any out for alternatives? I went with a Dragon on the 6th slot to cover for Grass weakness and some electrics. Gholdengo to cover the fairies and fighters, prima for fire, ground and fighting oh and dragons, my rocks obviously hit fires, ice and flying. Bugs which I rarely see and lastly Amoonguss for support but has Goggles to not get hit by the sand often and last longer. Maybe I got Goggles in Prima but I got Throat Spray.

[chrome knot]

im unaware

novaaaaa do you have a bascu boy i can borrow

for saturday local

[craggy dagger]

yes but i can’t trade rn

tomorrow good?

uhhh
you want me to EV, tm, and nature it as well

[foggy lodge]

you could go with Nils Dunlop's team

I think Excadrill is a better sand abuser than Lycanroc

[torn parrot]

GGGGAAAAA!!!!!!'

https://tenor.com/view/hi-super-saiyan-dragon-ball-z-gif-12094413

https://tenor.com/view/funny-animals-shake-it-dogs-laughing-at-you-no-gif-12302654

[foggy lodge]

waow

[spiral ridge]

Fusion power up for that

[cyan smelt]

Bnuny

Oh wait that's a doge

[chrome knot]

no!!

[rustic mountain]

seems solid, better question is how does it play?

[whole wraith]

https://youtu.be/WavBffvMRlA
this is my last battle i had, i have notes in the video personally, but what other critiques may you all suggest? or is this one of those teams, that i will have trouble just cause set up wise

if this is not allowed here, please delete

[cyan smelt]

first battle you always want to lead indeedee hat there or indeedee gallade there as ursaluna is really bad into mausape, gholdengo and pelipper and palafin

[torn parrot]

now you can see shitty pngs on the big screen

[cyan smelt]

if you want TR up you're gonna need to redirect with indeedee to take the pop bomb + drain punch

[craggy dagger]

okayyyy

[cyan smelt]

Indeedee hat tera fire hat

[molten oasis]

I’ll let you know I’ve been finishing up red dead 2, maybe

I think I’m close idk tho

[cyan smelt]

can yall give me feedback on a wacky idea i had

[devout mist]

bring it

[cyan smelt]

i don't have evs yet

[devout mist]

Figure them out later

Half of the stuff I build is not complete xD

[cyan smelt]

https://pokepast.es/64ffa2be1ba1d311 the idea is that skeledirge is tera ice and AV to become super tanky with snow and veil, glowking provides another mode with tr + chilly reception to ensure snow, and amoonguss, kingambit and gliscor are just there because i like them, haven't thought about synergy yet

[devout mist]

You got nice Pokemon. I just returned to double battles recently I can't really help you out.

[cyan smelt]

i might ask the vgc room on showdown for feedback

[cyan smelt]

i'll just test it and use PARSRS

[cyan smelt]

I'm liking this team, I can pivot with glowking and Amoonguss and set up with skeledirge and gambit and gliscor

[solid frigate]

the team feels-

very off meta

but in this reg is kinda alright to do that

[cyan smelt]

it's working decently so far, i've won 6 in a row

[cyan smelt]

mirror herb incin is interesting

[dull ibex]

vc?

pop bomb is so stupid

[cyan smelt]

beat up annihilape kinda sucks too

[lone spindle]

Hey I’ve been working on a sand team for vgc can someone look over it tell me what I need to fix if anything

https://pokepast.es/434e078ecb1e90a0

[cyan smelt]

you need protect on excadrill otherwise fake out breaks sash

idt breloom is good, try amoonguss instead

dragon tera on corv, steel tera on chomp, you need protect and life orb on chomp

standard moves for chomp are stomping tantrum, eq and dragon claw

[lone spindle]

My idea was having poison jab on chomp for fairy coverage

[cyan smelt]

you have corv for that, use brave bird

[lone spindle]

Gotcha

[cyan smelt]

also with steel tera chomp tanks fairy moves

and you want rough skin on chomp

[lone spindle]

Would I be better putting something like sneasler or fluttermane in the Breloom slot?

Or incineroar slot

[cyan smelt]

flutter is not legal, i'd say amoonguss so you have something for TR

incin is fine you need it for sneasler

and gholdengo

[lone spindle]

Mm

Idk much about sneasler how would it benefit the team compared to Cat

[cyan smelt]

well it almost always runs sash and idt you want to run it on a sand team because the sash will be broken on sand

[lone spindle]

Gotcha

[cyan smelt]

also put goggles on incin and sitrus on amoonguss so you can't get spored

[lone spindle]

Ok

What should I sub out for protect on Drill