#competitive_discussion
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notably they didnt give bulu play rough
Or Koko
idt koko has moonblast either
Electric/Fairy
Electric Surge, Telepathy (Hidden)
70/115/85/95/75/130
570
fini and lele got it
give me tapu finiiii
seals can be vicious
Just slaps the shit out of the opponent
like a ball in the nose
Beyond that it’s mostly 4 legged canine/feline creatures
rimbombee gets it
oh i meant moonblast
Oh
idt it gets play rough
It does lmao

“Balanced game”
i think they gave fini and lele play rough too
Feels like the game is “find the most busted thing” sometimes
Oh, IRON BUNDLE gets play rough

lmao
Yea fini and lele get it
Oh natures madness is like ruination, interesting
I wonder what ruins and tapus will be like
Can’t wait for chi Yu, oh hell nah chi Yu lele psyspam 
might do an alternating thing w/ them. so tapus are allowed gen 10 ruins arent, ruins gen 11 tapus arent
wait does Lele not get eforce?
for the first time this gen weve had restricteds excluded
no it doesnt
mm, probably for the best
yea lol
Good
Xern would have been so stupid
Probably
It gets Tera blast now
Which means now it can hit steel types

Zygarde might have been dumb too
im wondering what the names of the new forms are gna be. we got primals for gen 3 restricteds, origin form for gen 4, im curious what they name them
Yea, not sure how that’s gonna go
May just do megas lol
Although idk if xern would use it
nah but like
Also curious if it’ll be future or past
its not jus mega form theres gta be some kind of base form or original form they had
That’s true
in the same way primal or origin form is for those other guys
What if they did… nothing 
atleast my take, lore wise theres gta be something more to it
(They probably won’t)
i mean ur not wrong
they could do nothing too lol
im jus basing it off past remakes and the new forms we got
yep
Cuz we haven’t gotten a trailer in, months
yea we dont know much at all about it
Which, is surprising to me
We'll get more info on pokemon day I think
Cuz usually we’d get a trailer ever few months
For once the game will be polished (doubt)
lets not get crazy here
lol
I hope the radio silence means they're taking their time to make it good
swsh were good games too
They just, CLEARLY needed more work
The game seemed rushed
I think they’re not rushing ZA which is good
Well both swsh and sv were rushed so it's good they're taking their time
both have their flaws but i think they both were good still. i like their taking their time tho
They could have also announced it as it just started full production
Maybe they did dlc for a while then started za right after dlc 2 came out
Don't they usually have different teams working on games
nah
game has to have been in development for atleast a cppl years
they wouldnt announce something they are basically just starting
It's not the game causing issues. It's the system. The games run incredibly smooth if you run them on an overclocked switch. The Switch 2 is confirmed backwards compatible, as well.
They were designed to operate on the switch as well as take advantage of the switch 2 hardware
The game was pretty glitchy on launch as well, was that also cuz of the system?
Do you know what optimization of software is, Drago?
I’m 5 (no)
Or like use case basis? Cause it wasn't glitchy for everyone, but running a game on hardware that doesn't fully compensate for the requirements does cause problems of assorted nature. Updates to optimization fixes that.
ah, interesting
So you optimize the game better via updates, smooth out problematic lines of code, etc. Updates will make it better, but yeah, it's definitely the switch hardware if the game runs fine overclocked. And overclocking just delivers more voltage to the hardware to cause it to operate harder.
All I know is if I keep the game open for a long period of time it crashes
I never close my violet software unless swapping carts or doing updates.
I also have a first gen switch
Huh, I genuinely thought it was the game
I have a first gen switch too I think
I've had one crash over the course of S/V life span
It’s just the switch being a underperforming console
Case by case basis
For pokemon
It was their first attempt at a flagship console being both handheld and TV connected.
It runs other stuff fine
It's also proprietary hardware made by nvidia. These components are unique
It will be.
Like it's a meme to hate on s/V performance but a lot of people don't understand why it performs the way it does.
Like if I'm running MH wilds on a potato it's gonna play like I'm running it on a friggen potato
The memes are funny tho lol
What about all the disappearing NPCs
System issue ig
What about it lol
Rendering
You have like a 4k maH battery in this console. It's not much more powerful than a smart phone
I remember one time outside medali I saw an NPC walk out of the town and up the side of the cliffs
Like if it was the game making npcs disappear it would be a global issue because it would likely be a coding error
But rendering is all reliant on the gpu. Switch has a Tegra iGPU
ur the one that said they couldve announced it as they are starting production 
ahh gotcha
Saturday shifts do suck though. I'm fighting intense nausea on my shift lol
I do bread at Texas Roadhouse
damn hope that gets better
The bread is the reason people go
It will when my body finally acclimates to my medications that I just restarted.
It’s stressful when the servers are shooting daggers at you waiting on rolls
Basically chugging pepto right from the bottle atm
gotcha
This shift will not be my best work. They're gonna have to deal
happens
I wouldn’t know what starting medication is like, yet
from what I’ve heard usually sucks
I started immunosuppressive injections and a pill that's basically chemotherapy
What does that do to you?
One is hard as hell on the liver and one is hard on my everything
I take folic acid to protect my liver from pills. The rest I just tank.
Ah, the sounds miserable
The trade off is worth it.
What does it help with?
The acclimation period is ass.
It prevents my immune system from attacking healthy tissue/organs
Which it does on a regular basis. Incurable
Oh right, yea definitely worth it
On the flip side I have a survival advantage because I heal at an advanced rate. But it's not worth it
Good genes for the healing thing?
Nah my condition causes increased cell growth and death
oh
So through the day they're constantly dying and being replaced
It can form internally too and it targets my heart regularly
That sucks
Yeah. Had eight heart attacks over 3 months like 5 years ago. I've had a few minor ones since then..
Scarring on the left side of my heart from the eight before. Random palpitations
You don't have a series of heart attacks and walk away unharmed
For sure
Just yeah, adjusting sucks. Puts my whole system into panic mode
But it’ll be worthwhile
Yeah it'll make it so I don't look like I have leprosy
Also getting rid of the chronic pain is a big plus
That’ll be great for you
I'm just glad my loading doses will be done before I leave for Toronto
One shot a week, full dosage, for five weeks 
My rx is once a month.
That's why it's kicking my ass.
Ah, well Toronto should be more fun by then at least
Yeah it'll be good. It's already starting to sink in and affect my condition. I can feel it
I'll be moderately healed if not in remission by then
pog
it's much more pleasant playing showdown when i'm nice to people rather than salty
how do i do that
say goodbye to all your worries
youll never get toxic messages again
and you can unmute mid battle if you want to see messages
does it give you some sort of notification if there's messages
nope
but. you can unmute to see if theres messages
idk why i'd ever need to see messages tbh lol
hello
exactly
i didn't even know this was a feature lmao
sup
i think my friend battled you twice and recognized you from the ribombee team. dont think you saw their message bc of the mute lol. he beat you once then you beat him after. i dont blame you for the muting tho. cuts out a lot of toxicity
i just want to focus on the battle
i think people being toxic in a silly pokemon game is little funny. dont let your day be ruined because my digital pet got lucky and beat your digital pet
I understand it
i think i should replace primarina with dnite because prim is too weak to arch, sneasler, gholdengo and rilla
it reflects poorly on your progress when you lose
oh my bad lol, what did they say?
but yeah im always gonan stay muted cus one jerk message will ruin my day
yeah muting is 100% to focus is totally understandable. sometimes you dont wanna deal with people
toxic messages are funny imo
dont remember gimme me a sec. i think he sent the replay to me in a dm
can dm it to me
poltergeist can miss?
do you want to exhibit a on why I love anihillape
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between redstonejesus and Mattia non! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2024 Reg H; Date: Nov 10, 2024
they're funny if you win
if you lose they're just annoying
personally they are regardless but I understand that as well
damn red your team looks like a nightmare to play against
if you aren't good at the game sure
better players can shut me down pretty consistently
i'd probably struggle against it
weather is super strong rn
they may have gotten rid of the stats with haze but the scale shot made that pointless with by maxing Rage Fist's damage lol
agreed
tera blast was def the better move there
basically when you attack ape you better sure you one-shot it because it'll sweep otherwise
lots of things that like to boost their stats in this meta, dnite, corv, ape. arch, volcarona
just saw a cool team, it had eviolite bisharp, altaria, banette, wp armarouge, azumarill and vileplume
and another cool team, curse mimikyu with rabsca
Tofu existing be like:
lol
are archaludon rain teems becoming less common
idk what elo they show up the most but im really not seeing them as much as b4
Sun and rain is still popular
guess im just in the wrong elo range then
ive got a question for the niche team blog btw, is there a fine line between gimmicky and niche? If so, where would you place it?
What are you running ATM? Are you still using araquanid?
nah im starting from scratch after warming up to the meta
im making a sylveon team
Just make sure to plan for mausape and gholdengo
Mausape is still relevant?
Well it's more solo ape and solo maus these days
So pop bomb offence?
I see, thanks for the information
Rilla also does bullet seed into archaludon
What.
To proc stamina
Yep and OFC there's loaded dice dnite
My personal definition is the consistency factor
Gimmicks tend not to be very consistent
Or they tend to be convoluted
Makes sense
Additionally, gimmicks also require more than one moving piece
While niches are more established individually
Would you say they rely on having the perfect conditions and MUs?
Somewhat
Surprise factor also plays a big part in it as well. In a sense different to an unorthodox pick that one hasn't prepped for
Cause theres different types of surprise factor
Could you say the same for niche though
In a sense that it won't be a matchup that one has prepped for
That's why theres different types lol
Oh ok
Niches stand true even if the opp knows what you're doing
Gimmicks fall apart easily on something like OTS
Or if they even know what you're doing
e.g. You're aware of NGas Weezing doesn't mean you can commit to hard counterplay but WP Armarouge is easy to counter and requires more than one piece to get going
And falls apart
I think i get it thanks
Lol
ive hit a stump with my team development, for my 3rd addition i know its gonan be gallade OR hitmontop. mainly thinking for wide guard but their other qualities help the team too. For example gallade has tr and hitmontop has intimidate (sylveon has low defence). But then theres also gallade being a nice alternate offence choice but less bulky
its and extra tbh, along with the fact it has more bulk ig
Fighting, Rock
Bug, Dark, Dragon, Electric, Fire, Grass, Ground, Ice, Normal, Poison, Psychic, Steel, Stellar, Water
Fairy, Flying, Ghost
Bug, Dark, Rock
Dragon, Electric, Fighting, Fire, Ghost, Grass, Ground, Ice, Normal, Poison, Steel, Stellar, Water
Fairy, Flying, Psychic
Im up but I hate it
https://pokepast.es/a97c1ad7b3c727d2 taken me 2 hours but i feel like i got smth that can work?
https://pokepast.es/29cc5278aff25b77 after some tweaking
well i actually made a Sylveon team but i use this instead
https://pokepast.es/4e66ab20bce5f23a
and its consistently in 1300-1400
hm the throat spray alternative
also P2 is very Reliable TR setter honestly
not too sure on Gallade cuz it dies in Peli
also if you are using Misty Explosion,where is your Misty Terrain?
throat chop sneasler became a problem
and its a ice alternative for 100BP just incase i gotta die
sash makes it take 2 hits, moongus can redirect multihits
Uhhhh no?
Tera Fire Tera Blast Works Perfectly for me and i'm fine against Sneasler
just TR-
no i was talking about me
my sylveon struggles with it
thats why i have Chomp and Quick Attack-
never felt such validation from a spectator
oh thats what quick attack is for
i was looking for the weakness policy lol
ok yeah-
hate to break it to ya but idk if your team is good against Rain-
probably have some counterplay but idk
i don't have any critically bad MUs when i do my testing
cuz its 1-0 or 3-0 depends on MUs
and how they play
i havent found one yet, still mastering my piloting lol
lost 2 out of a few so far, tight games too
What would a good last mon be for a team of Incin, Prima, Gholdengo, Rilla, and Sneasler?
Hey guys I tried making a build for the first time and I made this status effect build, is it good or did I mess up with it (btw I only wrote the main moves for it):
Salazzle @ Shell Bell
Ability:
-Toxic Spikes
-Dragon Tail
Armarouge @ Leftovers
Ability:
-Will-O-Wisp
-Ally Switch
-Psyshock
Zoroark @ Life Orb
Ability: Illusion
-Hex
-U-turn
-Nasty Plot
Cloyster @ Loaded Dice
Ability:
-Icicle Spear
-shell smash
Clefairy @ Eviolite
Ability:
-Sing
-Wake-Up Slap
-Soft-Boiled
Cetitan @ Choice Band
Ability:
-Heavy Slam
Is this for single battles? If so, the majority of this chat plays double battles (or VGC)
Oh mb I didn’t know this was a double battle chat and yeah it is for single battle
It's not your fault! Also there are some people who play single battles, but really not many here. It might take a while to find someone who can actually give good advice
I see so double battles are more popular?
Double battles are the officially supported game mode by pokemon, with in person tournaments and all that
So most people here prefer to play that since it tends to be the more competitive game mode
Alright I’ll try to make a different build to be fit for double, thanks Dillon
you're welcome 😄 feel free to ping me or just type in here if you ever have questions about doubles
plenty of people able/happy to help
👍
Im kinda at an impass I feel like I need a tailwind setter for my team but dont really want to run talonflame or whimiscott as I already have a fire and grass type and feel like the other options Im seeing are underwhelming. Any suggestions?
what is the rest of your team?
@next stump Sneasler, Rillaboom, Gholdengo, Primarina, and Incineroar
i dont think there's really a better fit than either of those 2
So you dont think another fire or grass type will kill the team?
no not at all, I ran whimsicott + amoonguss for the first month of the format and it was perfectly playable
especially since whimsicott usually doesn't run any grass moves
True true
The team prolly does need tw though right? I dont want to get swept by somebody just outspeeding the hell outta me lol
It definitely doesn't need tailwind, you could throw on something like Electabuzz or Maushold for redirection and it's a pretty standard balance team
or Dragapult/Dragonite and similar effect
but that doesn't mean tailwind makes it worse or bad
I guess if I rocked dragonite Id have at least 2 prio moves with grassy glide and extremespeed
Is having 4 physical attackers and only 2 special attackers on a balance team alright tho? I might prefer to be 3-3 so I dont get walled as easily
that's a fine balance
especially when you have gholdengo which is either choice specs or nasty plot
anyone know when/if we can see teams from the Buenos Aires event today?
Me when the opponent has nothing to hit Dengo
Pokedata i think was called
Maybe there, i used that to keep checking worlds and gdansk

Buddy vgc reddit please explain how me asking for opinions on my last mon is a "rate my team" post
RIP
VGC reddit is not real
genuinely worst vgc place i've found
this discord is definitely enough to get a newcomer on the right track
just have to listen to the right people
real
Deadass though
Please do not self promote in comp discussion
its not? this is for people to view my battles to know what im doing wrong?
since no one like when i typed out my battles and people were requesting i record instead?
The only 3 things you had posted in this chat were youtube links. Please add more.context that dictates you're looking for help next time please.

gotcha gotcha thank you thank you
when i post the link be more "hey guys here's the battle video that was requsted, etc etc?"
Probably something along the lines of, what can I do better etc. Something that actually dictates you need help. Not that you're just showing a clip
thank you thank you
if i may ask:
these are the recordings of my lost/fail battles, I do have notes of some battles where I lost and I may "hey I should have done this"
any tips or suggestions would be great
yes it is a "hey laugh at my fails" but I am learning for the first year, but if this is not allowed here I will remove/it will be removed
Thank you everyone
be okay with the video or would this be self promoting, only cause i truly do not know, and trying not to
if you're playing double battles, you can always play on pokemon showdown and then send the links here
and people can give their adviCe
i don't think you should have the mentality of people will laugh on your plays
everyone makes mistakes so its alright to share it and improve,especially for VGC or Comp games
^
im gonna laugh at you
well except for Emma but most of us will not

thank you thank you, and hahah to emma
but i mean it as you can laugh because yeah make mistakes but if you can laugh at your won mistakes, the better for learning and to help others not feel so bad about making mistakes either
also to help me too, mentally, my apologise if seemed rude
Hoenn vs Dozo stan be like
y does lele look like that
🤨
really liking that gif huh 
Yep lmao
i took the GIF when me and the others are talking about the Tapus
hi :3
yea i jus dont get why lele is blue
that would be me i love silly shjitpost gifs
shitpost moment

oh wait i didnt mean to reoply
this seems obvious but i had to double check
does veil decrease damage from your own teammate
i think so? why?
was just curious
wait like, the partner of the alolan ninetales?
the damage they are dealing? or receiving?
like if i ever needed to earthquake next to my ninetales was wondering if veil could decrease that damage
I actually have no idera
idea*
something tells me no, it wouldn't reduce the damage
oh gotcha that's good to know
not 100% how it works but if I had to guess, I think that's how it would work
okay i think i got the answer here woooo
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between abasdljbadasd and goo gaa gaa goo! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2024 Reg H; Date: Nov 11, 2024
it does decrease the damage
which i very much like
Yeah honestly I think it should. It's a field effect and the effect is to reduce damage from all attacking moves. The source of said moves is non-specific
i think my team is finally finished and i have no more edits to make, its so absolutely fun

im really happy with how it turned out
laic in 5 days wujuu
oooo
thats so exciting
I'm almost in 1500s
and its Sylveon who got me into that range lol
I'm struggling no matter what I use
what is your main problem currently
Just dealing with the variety of different teams in the format
just-
If you build teams,just remember to build teams that at least have counterplay with them
I use a team like 2 weeks and then i get bored
idk how i still use my Sylveon team
that looks so awesome! im glad its been working out for you
and in reg G i could spam a team for 2 months and aaaaa what happened
its not a i want reg G back at this point is genuinely just like what happened
me with Terapagos:
usually i just done with fixing my team
i love reg H i fucking love reg H
i want reg H to be forever i might genuinely cry when it ends because ill miss it so much
but Reg G i just improve my team and more on cuz i am doing regional and EUIC on it
wait until Gen 10 Regional Dex
reg H has made me so happy it has brung me such joy
ill be ready
to relearn competitive
reg H has like
given me so many good memories
genuinely happy as fuck
i'm fine with Either but Sneasler during Early Reg G i have something to deal with
yeah i don't dislike it too much
Its funny to watch and be an spectator but its frustrating to play in my experience
praying for dire claw to be wiped off the game data
Time to brutally murder Sneaslers in Birmingham
with this
idt anyone using sneas in reg g
i'm just expecting some people would use it,especially Birmingham is the first Wave 2 Reg G Regional i think
honestly i rather fight shifu over sneasler
but both are bad lets be honest
iron fraud accomplishing nothinggg 😭😭😭
ill gladly take torn sneasler over torn urshifu thank you

i ain't dissing Riley Factura ok
That gives me an idea, I should put rain dance on torn to boost shifu
thats like- every TornShifu
And that reduces damage to rilla, chien Pao and zama
Pelipper kinda better
it depends on team comps,some zama players use Entei
Wide guard is very valuable and you don't have like that opportunity cost of choosing between rain dance tailwind or something
Ah yes
and Peli you have to sacrifice using Wide Guard Zama which is the set in Worlds
Pelipper works with fire types tho
Torn has been working for me I just need to optimise it
thats only Incin-
Santiago was won by Zama Pelipper and Ogerpon Hearthflame
feel like they work differently
And I need the option of no rain for skeledirge
yeah
The juniors finals team from worlds had Zamazenta Chi-Yu and double weather Tornadus lol
that team i don't really like too much
It depends on the placement a lot
then again,its Juniors,they cook different stuff
Groudon won Juniors in Indianpolis i think
lmao
Groudon is not that bad
For Kal0s let him just use Torn would be better cuz Wide Guard Zama
Its usable atleast
I like having the option of fast tw
tbf yeah its still usable,but Koraidon kinda closes the gap between it and Kyogre now in gen 9
usually i would say they are very close
but Gen 9 single restricted Groudon is just-
Still no legendary snow or sand setter
wait for Doubles Restricteds
i doubt it would have that many impact
unless they make it super broken
yes please i want to see a restricted different than the same 8
And sometimes Groudon and Lunala
i might use the Tried and True ZacOgre
I think Zama Mirai could cook
i mean we can't expect too much from New Legendary duo team comp yet
Zama calydow
Zacian Kyogre, Zamazenta CalyDow, CalyIce Kyogre, Kyogre Zamazenta, Lunala CalyIce
Those are the cores im sure will be used
Zamazenta will be the glue restricted
No Groudon?
i would expect 4 ofthem being used
Zama and Kyogre most likely
Koraidon CalyDow
That's fire too
Fighting Ghost is goat coverage and with mons so fast
Miraidon and kyogre
about that,Me and Creph actually think of a Miraidon Kyogre Gimmicky team
but i think i lost that team
Does creph still have it
idk
Volt switch your kyogre to activate weakness policy!!! * kyogre dies *
no its not
Remember what Ash's Pikachu uses?
is it thunderjolt
electroweb
I bet miraidon's top used move is volt switch
electroball
Yep
huh
Volt switch does ridiculous damage
The power of this move depends on (user's current Speed / target's current Speed), rounded down. Power is equal to 150 if the result is 4 or more, 120 if 3, 80 if 2, 60 if 1, 40 if less than 1. If the target's current Speed is 0, this move's power is 40.
Electric
Special
0
100
10 (16)
Does not affect Bulletproof Pokémon.
Copied by Mirror Move.
Does not make contact.
I hate speed ties between miraidon and chien pao
drop it lol
depends on Miraidon's Nature
Don't try to win that
Isn't it usually timid
I use Luca's spread
Modest Mirai still exists
That is modest with lot of speed but not 252
Also I never know if Miraidon is tera electric with electro drift or tera fairy with dazzling gleam
life orb tera ghost
DGleam would be more popular rn
no but most popular set by the end of reg g is tera fairy dazzling
but Electric Discharge would still be here,just harder to build a team with
Tera electric discharge still exists tho
Rajan Bal's composition probably
i still see them exist for some reason-
yea
Low kick hands the bane of my existence
Hands would be the defacto Future Paradox for Miraidon
Prepare for My Hands kek
Catch these
not related but MKLeo vs Spargo in a tournament rn lol
I need to come up with something that works for reg h
Catch em
what is Leo using-
whatever wins LAIC
cuz Leo mains everything mostly
😎
I want to try and make gliscor work
rn Joker but has used Byleth before
ok his usual mains ok ok
Meta Knight is fine
just outclassed by EVERYTHING
There was a Pichu in the top 8 of this tournament before too lol
Anyone know what pokemon are good nowadays
in which format?
VGC or Singles
and define Good
Like the best pokemon rn, also I gave no clue wym by VGC and singles 😭
VGC is 4v4 Doubles,Singles is 6v6
Oh well ion do those type battles I jus do raids because idk what else to do
I didn't even know there was a competitive thing out for this game yet
Comp Pokemon (Singles starts in Gen 1,VGC starts in Gen 4)
And its no different,every game beyond gen 4 has a VGC Metagame Scene
Ohh
Sorry I apologize if u have to explain alot to me. I recently js got back into this game lol
its fair
Do u think u can tell me the best pokemon In general if u get what I mean?
For this Format,I'm not too sure since this meta game has lots for variety here so it would have Mixed Options
Currently Sneasler,Archaludon,Incineroar etc are very popular,This is just Regulation H where they banned all Legendary and Paradox
Ahh I see, ty
But for Reg G its Calyrex,Miraidon and Zama are top 4
Are iron hands and perrserker good still?
Hands Yes,Perrserker is consdier niche to almost no usage
but Hands is banned in Reg H
its in Gen 8 if i recall but yeah power creep exists
Ahh I see I see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iweKq7UuHFQ @timber falcon
Trying out a crazy team featuring Skill Swap No Guard for Sheer Cold and Perish Trap in Generation 9 Scarlet & Violet Regulation H created by Wolf Glick. 2020 LAIC VGC Champion & 3rd Place at both the 2019 and 2022 Pokemon VGC World Championships tries out his team he calls the forbidden team.
00:00 - Introduction
00:18 - Team Breakdown & Renta...
i don't think we should let him do this team yet-
i'm just tagging him because it has golurk on it
wolfe's teams are always hard to pilot
not all of them
Golurk is finally usable ?
the stream was funny
every game he says like "im defintely losing this shit"
and then he pulls it out somehow by pure magic
he had to play on another dimension to get through those games
lol
i think he was there just to have fun
Incredibly niche. Technically you can use anything, it just may not be right for the job
Like everything is usable. Good or great is another story
No guard dynamic punch memes are funny though
short
s h o r t
Why is it so short when it's 2.8m tall
Something went funky with the pngs
funny enough i was looking into Golurk usage stats because i like the shiny then i saw the usage set with the teammates and thought "oh thats a Skill Swap onto Sheer Cold lapras" then i randomly opened YouTube and saw the video using the team with the same teammates as the usage stats lol
funni team
funni indeed. the teammate usage stats do share a little story with what pokemon they considered using for the team
Lol that’s happened to me before
I look up a niche mon and the whole usage stats are one team
i think they considered dozo giri instead of gothitelle and incin. maybe for fissure. but i think they opted for the shadow tag to have a perish option
and maybe considered sheer cold dewgong but that usage might be unrelated... maybe
fissure dozo with no guard and +2 stats. sounds spooky
All these strats to abuse no guard on other pokemon but nobody just hitting things really hard with golurk 😭
Dynamic punch and poltegiest that don’t miss sounds like a nasty combo
Dynamic punch polegiest Hugh horsepower
Go crazy
gets stone edge too. less relevant but still have some merit to go on Golurk
Absolutely true
I feel like someone could utilize it in trick room
Give it a choice and or life orb
i really want to use spiritomb but idk how it'd fare against rage fist
Well neutral
yeah but my experience from series 1 is a full boosted rage fist still tended to ko
and it frightens me to think how much arch can do to it
He should live a 4 hit at least
what's the calc look like
Wait
My stupid calc had no attack guy might die in a second
He got destroyed yeah
Wellll
is beat up rage fist still common
Dang yeah he dies
Ye
damn
Always kinda around
How about you
Make him tera normal mental herb
specifically for that matchup
then i'd be burning a tera on it which doesn't feel great
next to indeedee
what ev spread was it on ape
have something to threaten Ape. that way, they'd be forced to follow me and not go for beat up
That’s a good idea
My own ape?
Or blursa?
Nah then they'll just rage fist spiritomb
I could run tailroom
So like why are you keeping Spiritomb on the board against Annihilape in this hypothetical?
i shouldn't you're right
Yeah he doesn't really do anything for the proposed board state. Just sits around.
Unless like Foul Play and then it's even a crap shoot. Does it even get Foul Play?
Spiritomb Foul Play vs. 180 HP / 36+ Atk / 108 Def Annihilape: 73-87 (35 - 41.8%) -- 73.88% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Spiritomb Shadow Ball vs. 180 HP / 172 SpD Annihilape: 102-120 (49 - 57.6%) -- 41.41% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Big meh there too. Poor Spiritomb
It's just not offensive or bulky enough
It's there for snarl support and that's about it
i fear better mons can do that
Yeah it's a non starter
yeah we know who is being the better one-
“innovators” will hate who learns both and is prob the best user for it
exactly-
I don’t think he’s trying to innovate I think he just wanted to use spiritomb
Accidently replied to a message mb
the only thing that it could be better is that its immune to Fake Out and only has one weakness
but then again I don’t think its was that bulky as well right?
Is level 50 rilla supposed to have 98 sp def? Seems kinda frail for vest?
what is your EV investment in it?
usually I’d go for 180 SpD + AV
Wow
but idk what EVs are you on
You got a fat monkey right there
i kinda didn’t care about speed too much on Rilla lol
It was just the first one I found off smogons vgc page for it
usually that Spread is meh
would not really recommend Smogon VGC spread until you have no other choice
Yeah only has 60 points in sp def lmao
Grass
Overgrow, Grassy Surge (Hidden)
100/125/90/60/70/85
530
60 EVs wow- I don’t think its Enough
but then again
depends where did the spread throw on
Yeah Ill be out here getting my ass ate by volcarona and friends
Lol mostly hp and attack
can you show the Spread in chat
252 hp 148 atk 44 def 60 sp def 4 speed
Its Workable i guess….
I use 196 HP/116 Atk/4 Def/180 SpD/12 Spe
I like yours a little better IMO want to get the most bang outta my vest that I can lol
and You already have Grassy Terrain to help you Grass Move it Runs
is someone able to help me build my first team for competitive? new to pokemon violet
would recommend use Rental Teams from Victory Road to understand Metagame and your preference to the Archetype,Would not recommend you to build teams without basic knowledge on Meta
ok ill look into it im guessing victory road is a website
yep
thank you
would you reccomend trying them and learning them in casual or ranked @solid frigate
Ranked would be preferable,but I would recommend you go for Showdown first to test the team
okey
I just got blocked for telling a new player that calyrex shadow can learn body press
PFFT
WHY IT LEARNS THAT
Is having 3 pokes that are weak to both fire and flying gonna be a big prob?
I got no idea
Naw we getting big walled by bulky fliers
gamefreak is on drugs making this pokemon-
But he was so salty about his kingambit being one shot that he called him a hacker
of course-
the Hacker excuse
forgot Gambit is 4x weak
Team is sneasler incin rilla whimiscott prima and gholdengo so nothing for flying really and yeah 3 of those weak to fire too
Not to mention my only out to weather is sunny day on whimiscott which just makes that problem even worse lmfao
Dengo should be fine against Flying Types,and Incin is alright against both of them
but do not recommend Sunny Day whims on a Tailwind Team that uses FWG Core
So just go ahead and say if we get weather roomed we get weather roomed? Lol
I gotcha
2025 Championship Series Mid-Season Update:
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no VGC changes rip
welp
Im kinda new to vgc. Would a sp atk lucario be a good Pokemon to use against a rain team archaludon because of its low sp def?
uhhhhhhh not exactly a good option i'd would say Plus don't recommend build your own team before knowing How VGC works
What is a good counter to archaludon?
Sneasler,Anything with Sacred Sword,Garchomp,Excadrill(Its Meta now with Sand)
and AGAIN. do not build your teams when you are new to VGC
I used to used prebuilt teams some but I didnt really know what I was supposed to be doing with them so I kinda stopped. If I build a team then I know for sure what its supposed to do and I can change it when I loss
thats why its a bad idea,plus when is your last time play Comp cuz you said you are NEW to VGC
Sword and shield😂
i meannnnnnnn
lucario itself isssss
well it hasn’t been explored on what it can do cuz there are mons that do he’s job better
Fighting/Steel
Steadfast, Inner Focus, Justified (Hidden)
70/110/70/115/70/90
525
Lucario-Mega
My Point Still stands.
but generally it’s a mixed/physical attacker
Whats like a good team to start learning now then?
i’d pick up some regional winning rental teams to practice and get used to what’s being used atm
Any Team fron Victory Road Website honestly,they are at least solid builds
anyways
Hai bestie
hiii
whats a good mon into volcarona?
looking for a physical attacker that can shut it down
Harc
Incin
Talonflame
Flamigo
A fire type in general
Or dragon, chomp dnite
Fire/Rock
Intimidate, Flash Fire, Rock Head (Hidden)
95/115/80/95/80/90
555
Arcanine
rock head flare blitz is nice
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between Testingcorner1234 and wutheringrudi! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2024 Reg H; Date: Nov 11, 2024
Idk if that crit mattered but that game was so joever if I clicked EP
236+ SpA Ursaluna-Bloodmoon Blood Moon vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Armarouge: 159-187 (82.8 - 97.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO it did
I’ll take it anyway lol
That Deedee also had virtually no bulk ig
What the fuck
Why did indeedee explode
Is your guy choice banded? I’m absolutely blown away right now
The Deedee has 0 bulk
It shouldn’t have just exploded to wave crash like that
Drago guess what
Sp. Def boost wont help with this physical move
Chicken butt
Hello Friends! just wanted to ask for some feedback on my soon to be sword team
Charizard
Ability : Solar Power - Nature : Timid - Item : Assualt Vest - Ev's : 252 Speed | 252 Special Attack | 4 Attack
Moves : Flamethrower - Dragon Pulse - Air Slash - Solar Beam
Dragapult
Ability : Infiltrator - Nature : Adament - Item : Leftovers - Ev's : 252 Attack | 252 Speed | 4 Special Defence
Moves : Dragon Dance - Dragon Darts - Phantom Force - U-Turn
Cloyster
Ability : Skill Link - Nature : Adament - Item : King's Rock - Ev's : 252 Attack | 252 speed | 4 Health
Moves : Icicle Spear - Rock Blast - Shell Smash - Razor Shell
Gardevoir
Ability : Trace - Nature : Timid - Item : Wise Glasses - Ev's : 252 Special Attack | 252 Speed | 4 Defence
Moves : MoonBlast , Psychic , Energy Ball , Calm Mind
Aagron
Ability : RockHead - Nature : Adament - Item : Metal Coat - Ev's : 252 Health | 252 Special Defense | 4 Defense
Moves : Double Edge - Metal Claw - EarthQuake - Rock Tomb
Urshifu (Single-Strike)
Ability : Unseen Fist - Nature : Adament - Item : Focus Sash - Ev's : 242 Attack | 252 Speed | 4 Defense
Moves : Swords Dance - Wicked Blow - Close Combat - Sucker Punch
dont lie and try to be nice abt it, just tell me if im horrible at making teams :)
i mean like if my team sucks just say so
I like solar power & 0 sun setters
the team seems a lot like a playthrough team and not a team that could/should be used in any PVP battles
but putting that aside, no one here is still playing SW/SH competitively so it's tough for us to really give advice if you are playing PVP
yeah that is the point of the team i just didnt know where to put the whole team build
I want to try that solar power zard team
this chat is meant for PVP battles, not playthrough discussion. You can try #swsh_discussion for that kinda thing
ah okay, thank you!
krystal0794_92370 has given 1 Gen Rep to mlbd
if u want u can, the team is free for anyone to use
the charizard has sunny day in its build ( just realised i was looking at the wrong charizard build lmao-)
I meant the 2nd placed regional team
oh
Pokepaste man
It's playthrough
Stand down soldier

i feel like bulu would hate rilla
just because rilla completely took it over
“Who are you”
“I’m you but better”
“Bitch you a starter sit down”
But he is in fact better
@rustic mountain partaking in goat activity rn
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Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between Emily Nowak and ToDaMax22! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2024 Reg H; Date: Nov 12, 2024
i just made a sand team and then back to back i ran into 5 different sun team.
my match up looking good against them lol
Why did you decide to make a sand team? Is it because sun is really popular atm and how do you match up into rain?
No Sand Literally won a Regional-
which one?
i forgot is it Gdansk?
ive done this cute thing called 252/252 dnite so after 1 scale shot i speed creep everyone
Lille
yeah exactly
Emma
I got my new watch
Weekly check in
Hi guys
I made a team I like, decided I wanna build it in violet to climb ranked ladder and got lazy\caught up with studying
How's everyone been
DUBS
Thank youuu thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuu
mayahoppins has given 1 Gen Rep to setsumizi
Y'all are cute
Weezing has been on every team I enjoyed using in reg h
Maybe I have a favorite little archetype
And I don't mean gimmicks like weezing + toedscruel/slaking
I just think it's a really solid support mon if you build your team right
You get to just deny entire strategies
My favorite is ignoring armor tail using fake out + taunt against farigiraf tr teams
Time to run Covert Cloak Farigiraf
Tera ghost farigiraf>>>
My most recent one actually has 172 speed weezing
Turbo weezing
The paste is kinda hideous to look at but works surprisingly well
Turbo ursa bm just enough for -1 speed timid gholdengo
And weezing that's just fast enough to outspeed the ursa to combo with acid spray
He's Cooking
Bro's cookin trust
Don't want farigiraf getting powered down by snarl
I know people love their dire claw effect immunity
And farigiraf twin beams kitty
So realistically I can see it as a niche just for that purpose alone
Shhh
Don't tell em
That's actually a really neat idea
I may be out of the loop
Are people using that
Never thought I'd see a realistic twin beam use case in vgc
I've been using it
Idk about others
Usually others use like Scale Shot
Scale shot dragonite is funny to see
Did something specific make it rise in usage or did people just realize it's cool or something
Oh twin beam, I’m not sure if others are using it either. I did see another farigiraf doing it tho but it seems logical in this format
KOs Sneasler and other Sash stuff through Sash and is honestly just reliable when it hits
You sniping me girl?
The weirdest thing I've seen recently was that bullet seed dice rillaboom has like non negligible usage
And actually seeing one in person
Oh lol maybe it was you I was watching random showdown battles
I hadn’t been paying attention
What's the explanation to that
But I think it’s a genuinely good idea
Was there a Samurott with it?
What you cooking with samurott
Things
Base or hisui?
Idk what you think
I mean hisui is like just better but you never know
Monke running the infernape + samurott rainbow pledge team????
Tf are you talking about
Making up bad ideas on what you're doing with samurott
Ah no I dropped Infernape
One time thing
Although I could revamp that team tbh
I’m not sure it was, a bit ago, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was tho
Monke did I show you my turbo weezing paste
No
Before you say anything
I've tested it quite a bit and it works quite well
I got from like 1150 to 1500 with very few losses
Why is there a random Froslass
Empty 6th slot, I needed something with icy wind/electroweb that's not weak to garchomp
And it worked decently
I barely use it but when I do it hasn't failed me yet
I genuinely don't remember why I made it tera fighting tho
Oh yeah
Rock and steel resist yet still not weak to ground
So what do you think
One thing that's finicky is using liquid voice prima with weezing around
And I'm still reconsidering the weezing tera
It's kinda wonky but if it works it works
I'm not worried about spore so I can just pick anything else that's not weak to ground
Maybe ghost
Ghost sounds nice
I don't want it to be weak to common types after Tera
It's been an issue in some games
What do you think?
cursed body 
Hai bestie
Ghost is a good Weezing tera
I'm not gonna be making use of snow cloak so

Why not
It's my kind of wonky
Completely based on making the opponent's plan not work
If this Pokemon is hit by an attack, there is a 30% chance that move gets disabled unless one of the attacker's moves is already disabled.
Between a mildly useful ability and one that I won't make use of, I'll take that
It has snow cloak and cursed body
fair 
i was just curious on the disable chance
I'm like still willing to swap out froslass
But I really need icy wind or electroweb
Since I made speed calcs just for that
Ursa outspeeds the fastest ghold, if it's scarf it won't ohko ursa
I think
Do we know if we're getting any extra rulesets before they just bring back reg g
At first I thought they'd do the thing where they first reintroduced paradoxes and then reintroduced minor legends
Like season 2 and 3
But now the year is almost over
Yo people from where I live were in the top cut
They're already naming things 2025?
I'm not ready yet
charge beam?????????
Has a 70% chance to raise the user's Special Attack by 1 stage.
Electric
Special
50
90
10 (16)
Copied by Mirror Move.
Does not make contact.
make it 100% accurate. my ampharos neeeeeds it
Has a 100% chance to raise the user's Attack by 1 stage.
Fighting
Physical
40
100
20 (32)
Copied by Mirror Move.
Makes contact.
Boosted by Iron Fist.
reminds me when I ran power up punch Gengar in XY just for the funnies
Is that move still in gen 9
power up punch never left Pokemon Right?
maayaaaaaa do u want dons nuggies? :3

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2242489102
I'm confused why this is forced Public Match-
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between MorrisPXG456 and VGCLTH MINAMISIMP! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2024 Reg H; Date: Nov 12, 2024
water miku-
thats not the point lol
Why is that Forced Match
what is VGCLTH
:sv/pelipper: hosted by me and Akeras :sv/pelipper:
SPECIFIC RULES
Qualification for this tournament will take place on the Pokemon Showdown VGC Regulation Best of 1 H ladder. The 16 players that qualify for top cut of this tournament will play in a single elimination best-of-3 bracket.
The...
Prankster terrain?




