#competitive_discussion

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lofty tartan
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I think Ninetales/Bax/Meow are needed for solid ice coverage. It's just choosing one

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It's just more things to make Rilla suffer for switching in

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Meow has an added bonus of pressuring Gholdengo

torn parrot
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ahhh gholdengo

molten oasis
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Personally

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I like a9 the most, her speed is really good and the spread from blizzard pressures a lot of teams especially with rilla

torn parrot
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yea its a pretty nice all in one option

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i lke it too

molten oasis
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I didn’t find dengo to be that difficult

torn parrot
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then the last is the bigest hurdle

molten oasis
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But it should be another dengo answer imo

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Could go a ground type

torn parrot
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garchomp just works i think

molten oasis
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Yea that’s a solid option

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Av Bloodmoon can also work

torn parrot
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for shizzy

molten oasis
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I’m messing with it again rn

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Big fan, bulky guy

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Maybe not light clay tho just put it over encore

torn parrot
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yeah i think theres no harm

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plus its not like eeeveery team is a weather team

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light clay is probably just the thing that is tough to comit to

lofty tartan
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It's time for spreadsheets 🧮

torn parrot
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yayy

torn parrot
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i love furret

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shes my queen

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i want to

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kiss furret on the forehead

real prairie
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Surely can't be long til entries for Birmingham open @solid frigate right?

torn parrot
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im about to play with dollar store miraidon

real prairie
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sitrus berry shed tail is a free sub for any mon, some real dollar store bargain that

cyan smelt
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  • regenerator
real prairie
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i assumed, thus free sub

molten oasis
solid frigate
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for some reason

red willow
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How does one go about getting Fake Out onto Sneasler

cyan smelt
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Mirror herb something that already has fake out

real prairie
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fake out is an egg move for sneasler? little surprised by that

cyan smelt
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Egg move for Rilla too

torn parrot
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and incin

cyan smelt
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Weird

red willow
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Yeah me having to get both HA and ANOTHER egg move kinda turned me off training a Rilla lmao

red willow
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Meh have like 3 HA item things I guess rillas worth one right?

torn parrot
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yeye

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if your good on the team

red willow
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I dont have a team fleshed out yet really Im just training good mons in the meta and gonna take it from there once I have a sufficient amount lol

torn parrot
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wouldnt it save more time to know what team you want first befor eyou spend a bunch of time doing that

red willow
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See my style is more wait till damn near the end of reg to have all the pokemon I need for that reg trained up then never actually get to play lmfao

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I guess I could just jump in with my sun team but then get cooked

torn parrot
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yeah thats what i mean

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spend all reg prepping to not play

torn parrot
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252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Water Palafin-Hero Helping Hand Wave Crash vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Toxapex in Rain: 158-187 (100.6 - 119.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

clever parcel
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Imagine dracovish w tera

torn parrot
# clever parcel Imagine dracovish w tera

252+ Atk Choice Band Strong Jaw Tera Water Dracovish Helping Hand Fishious Rend (170 BP) vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Toxapex in Rain: 225-265 (144.2 - 169.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

rustic mountain
torn parrot
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im hungry

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i need a snack

foggy lodge
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pota to

solid frigate
cyan smelt
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I kinda want to try out that geezing toedscruel and incin team

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No defiant, no weather and fast spore seems nice

solid frigate
cyan smelt
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Yes

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Wolfey goated

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Wait wolfey's team didn't have incin on it

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But I might try geezing toedscruel and incin

shadow wind
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With chomp?

tiny peak
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Annihilape, which is the better ability, defiant or vital spirit?

chrome knot
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defiant

spiral ridge
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If you don’t wanna be slept lots go goggles as defiant is just better to have

tiny karmaBOT
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Ability: Vital Spirit

This Pokemon cannot fall asleep. Gaining this Ability while asleep cures it.

solid frigate
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Very Off Meta for My end

spiral ridge
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Only two weird things

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Both have seen use

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So not the oddest thing ever

chrome knot
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band

bold geode
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Hai Emma

chrome knot
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yo

craggy dagger
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frostnova pfp-
wh??

bold geode
foggy lodge
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I know you want the secondary effect

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Dire claw but less broken

stone ocean
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Hi everyone, I’ve been wanting to get into ranked pokemon but something i’ve always struggled is which pokemon I should let start the game (like the first 4 in a double battle). Can anyone help me because i’m really trying my best to improve but play casually at the same time

craggy dagger
chrome knot
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novaaaaa

solid frigate
craggy dagger
chrome knot
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haaaaiiiii

molten oasis
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0-3, 2 to being dumb 1 to a very stupid disconnect

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I love this game

solid frigate
molten oasis
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No just the matches I played

solid frigate
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ah ok

torn parrot
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I’m hungry

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Time to eat

chrome knot
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taco bell

lofty tartan
tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 244: Entei
Type

Fire

Abilities

Pressure, Inner Focus (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

115/115/85/90/75/100

Total

580

bold geode
chrome knot
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i luv testing

solid frigate
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lol

chrome knot
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that guy got 100-0'd while I was listening to nightcore

rustic mountain
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all the tools but no execution to back it up smhducksmoking low ladder has so many talkers

chrome knot
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it was p2 vs agati

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so you can imagine how dat went LOL

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where p2 hits a lick into 6/6 mons

rustic mountain
balmy glen
spiral ridge
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Beat her up for me

bold geode
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So this guy right
So me and him are starting a Nino ladder tour
And we start at same time and I'm like ok let's do this
INSTANTLY get matched with fuckin Tofu
And he just absolutely wipes me
It was storytime in that moment, he opened me up and read me
It was probably the biggest match I can think of where I had absolutely no shot at beating him lmao

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Worst part is for months after, sometimes when I'd shit talk him, he'd just be like "4-0"

rustic mountain
cyan smelt
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The return of toxic tofu

torn parrot
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@bold geode

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I found this

bold geode
spiral ridge
molten oasis
craggy dagger
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low kick incomingggggg
smile1

chrome knot
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hh + heatwave killed both

cyan smelt
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it's annoying when they have zard + farig so you can't sucker punch

torn parrot
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I wanna play zarichard

cyan smelt
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isn't it just budget typhlosion

craggy dagger
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free life orb though

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and you take recoil once everyone goes

cyan smelt
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no eruption though

craggy dagger
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though idk about recoil saving anyone robin_wheeze

craggy dagger
cyan smelt
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true lotsa damage

tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 6: Charizard
Types

Fire/Flying

Abilities

Blaze, Solar Power (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

78/84/78/109/85/100

Total

534

Other Formes

Charizard-Mega-X, Charizard-Mega-Y

ornate bridge
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can i link teams here

tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 157: Typhlosion-Hisui
Types

Fire/Ghost

Abilities

Blaze, Frisk (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

73/84/78/119/85/95

Total

534

Base Species

Typhlosion

craggy dagger
ornate bridge
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like pokepaste?

spiral ridge
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Almost same spa

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It’s just not as immediate a damage but beefier

craggy dagger
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i’ll admit though
losing 10 base Special attack is 100% worth the free life orb

spiral ridge
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Yeah fs

cyan smelt
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i kinda want to play zard now

spiral ridge
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That quick to convert KEKWCRY

craggy dagger
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if it can help us climb then we’ll take it

cyan smelt
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zard + whimscott + torkoal sounds fun

spiral ridge
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Yeah course I’m just teasing

craggy dagger
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i’m still on eviolite gligar robin_wheeze

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oh oh
and electrode hisui

tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 101: Electrode-Hisui
Types

Electric/Grass

Abilities

Soundproof, Static, Aftermath (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

60/50/70/80/80/150

Total

490

Base Species

Electrode

cyan smelt
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what does electrode hisui do

bold geode
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@chrome knot is the Psychic shroom still the play

ornate bridge
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how is this trick room teamhttps://pokepast.es/8ad17109bf88c53d

craggy dagger
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it just goes fast robin_wheeze

chrome knot
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no!

craggy dagger
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doesn’t even hit that hard

chrome knot
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im on water rn, psyspam is ded lol

bold geode
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Damn that was quick lmao

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Same EVs though

cyan smelt
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fast ewebs?

molten oasis
# chrome knot hh + heatwave killed both

252 SpA Solar Power Charizard Helping Hand Heat Wave vs. 140 HP / 37 SpD Assault Vest Tera-Water Ursaluna-Bloodmoon in Sun: 80-95 (38.8 - 46.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO no

molten oasis
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Modest doesn’t either

craggy dagger
spiral ridge
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Nice

molten oasis
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Unless that was specs I’m not sure tho

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It’s not lorb

craggy dagger
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don’t most zard run specs anyways?

chrome knot
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yes it was specs

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you literally knocked it off LOL

molten oasis
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Ah, ok

molten oasis
chrome knot
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i know

craggy dagger
molten oasis
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Cuz it died so I didn’t care lol, good to know tho

craggy dagger
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dunno if this is for bss or vgc though RobinShrug

ornate bridge
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i was originally running protect on sneasler

craggy dagger
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and that could change everything

molten oasis
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252 SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charizard Helping Hand Heat Wave vs. 140 HP / 37 SpD Assault Vest Tera-Water Ursaluna-Bloodmoon in Sun: 120-142 (58.2 - 68.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO ok I had a chance to live

ornate bridge
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its for vgc

craggy dagger
chrome knot
mighty stump
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Ur moms a modifier

molten oasis
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252 SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charizard Helping Hand Heat Wave vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Incineroar in Sun: 103-122 (50.9 - 60.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO incin would live

bold geode
chrome knot
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yes

molten oasis
craggy dagger
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earthquake is nice but it gets nerfed really hard by grassy terrain rillaboom so most usually opt for headlong rush

bold geode
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And that's of course with Tera Water

chrome knot
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mhm

ornate bridge
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oh yeah that does happen

rustic mountain
chrome knot
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fast sleep

spiral ridge
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thats the mons name thank you i was tryna say same thing 😭

cyan smelt
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that makes sense, fast sleep powder

molten oasis
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I could have probably led dnite

craggy dagger
molten oasis
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Was worried about the incin p2 lead

spiral ridge
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real i lose my rolls often

rustic mountain
craggy dagger
chrome knot
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he threw xd

rustic mountain
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hence almost just won haha

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g2 was rough

ornate bridge
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but... im running psychic terrain...

craggy dagger
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doesn’t mean you’ll use terrain all the time + terrain overwrites exist

ornate bridge
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the point is that incin is actually a scary trick room sweeper but no one expects it

craggy dagger
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most trick room psyspam gambit still run sucker punch-

ornate bridge
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i like the idea of fake out but what if i run it on sneasler

mighty stump
craggy dagger
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reminder that sneasler being 4x weak to psychic in a psychic terrain setting isn’t the best play robin_wheeze

ornate bridge
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but with swords dance it is

spiral ridge
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theres things much better to sweep with sd

rustic mountain
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incins good at a lot, sweeping isnt one of em

chrome knot
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cool im clicking headlong rush

mighty stump
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Only my Incin is good at sweeping 😎

spiral ridge
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sd gambit is a great sweeper if youd like

mighty stump
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Emma knows why

chrome knot
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dont u dare

spiral ridge
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i awnna see

rustic mountain
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was it that mid cc set

mighty stump
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WOW MID

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WHEN IT COUNTERS SAND

bold geode
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Me realizing idk how to EV a support Farig anymore

craggy dagger
rustic mountain
spiral ridge
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not too much psychic running around to capitalize on it

molten oasis
spiral ridge
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i havent seen psyspam in a minute but you mightve

bold geode
rustic mountain
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u jus made me think of reg g

mighty stump
rustic mountain
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nd it made me mad

mighty stump
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So the redundancy makes its existence jn a terrain moot

craggy dagger
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oh
that’s fair

bold geode
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Tofu how do I EV this fuckin giraffe

mighty stump
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Farig?

spiral ridge
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you just do man

bold geode
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Yes

spiral ridge
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put in numbers monkey

rustic mountain
mighty stump
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Defenses over HP

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Lol

bold geode
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Lmao

spiral ridge
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thanks emma for my last three teams !!!

rustic mountain
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gdi jus roll w/ it

spiral ridge
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and nova for more in the past

mighty stump
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My Farig sets aren’t amaIng it’s just fat

bold geode
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What happened to the giraffe

craggy dagger
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didn’t her teams have more success than mine

mighty stump
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like what 252/236 HP Def then in SpDef

rustic mountain
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2007 giraffe has seen some shit

spiral ridge
craggy dagger
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LMAOOOO

spiral ridge
bold geode
rustic mountain
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sometimes 252/252 is the way especially wen u dont know wat ur doing

mighty stump
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Just skill diff your opp so it doesn’t matter

spiral ridge
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ive been stuck 1400 no matter the team its a me thing at this point KEKWCRY

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hit 1500 once this reg wooo

mighty stump
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Btw its been like

craggy dagger
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i’m realizing that you prolly like a simple playstyle

spiral ridge
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still tryna beat that 1580 i hit for one game from G

mighty stump
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Probably 3 weeks since I had proper VGC sessions

craggy dagger
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go fast hit hard-

mighty stump
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I’m so happy

cyan smelt
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i probably need to fine tune my team on main

craggy dagger
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trick room and hit like a fucking cruise ship

spiral ridge
rustic mountain
spiral ridge
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balance HO whatever

chrome knot
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i like porygon2

cyan smelt
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i have an ok gxe + elo

spiral ridge
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p2 is very fun yeah

craggy dagger
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so when are we building that delphox team?

mighty stump
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With

spiral ridge
chrome knot
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im concerned for your well being

mighty stump
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C

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C

chrome knot
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nooooooo you dont

spiral ridge
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crowd control.. right?

rustic mountain
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close combat

mighty stump
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CLOSE COMBAT INCINEROAR BABIE

spiral ridge
mighty stump
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TERA FIGHTING AV

spiral ridge
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just wish i didnt lmao

mighty stump
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MAX SPE MAX ATK

spiral ridge
mighty stump
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Band is lame

craggy dagger
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i’m still trying to make pawmot work RappaDead

spiral ridge
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band makes your defs go a nice -6 if youre still alive 😭

rustic mountain
spiral ridge
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why is it

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when i do :sob and hit enter to finish it it just sends the message

tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 923: Pawmot
Types

Electric/Fighting

Abilities

Volt Absorb, Natural Cure, Iron Fist (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

70/115/70/70/60/105

Total

490

mighty stump
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I’m still on Misty Terrain GWeezing stuff

spiral ridge
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meowthdead NAD NOW ITS WORKING FUCK YOU RUINING MY EXAMPLE

mighty stump
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I’m mixed about wtf the Dnite sets are atm

rustic mountain
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some1 mention terrain overriding

craggy dagger
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oh and i’m still on that follow me risu as well

spiral ridge
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oh speaking of

rustic mountain
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fr? interesting

mighty stump
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Dunno if I want support or Specs

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I mean I like it lol

bold geode
rustic mountain
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i had theory crafted some stuff w/ it but never actualized anything

mighty stump
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Its useful in more scenarios I thought it would be

rustic mountain
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yea i could see that

bold geode
mighty stump
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Why not

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I had Tera Fughting Tera Blast Wyrdeer in my builder

rustic mountain
cyan smelt
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is that better than tera fighting p2

mighty stump
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Hell no

craggy dagger
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i have that god build living a +2 body press and a +1 draco meteor on rolls smile1

rustic mountain
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lmao

spiral ridge
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nova loves a good gamble

molten oasis
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Bloodmoon a9 dengo seems solid

rustic mountain
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looks good to me

craggy dagger
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at least a coin flip if not less

rustic mountain
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coin flips not great imo

craggy dagger
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maybe not a max spatk archaludon buttttt

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what’s an archaludon set i can borrow

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i mean i’ll take this though

252+ Atk Tera Flying Dragonite Stomping Tantrum vs. 252 HP / 156+ Def Pachirisu: 96-114 (57.4 - 68.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Tera Flying Dragonite Scale Shot (4 hits) vs. 252 HP / 156+ Def Pachirisu: 100-120 (59.8 - 71.8%) -- approx. 2HKO

spiral ridge
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nicr

mighty stump
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I still think about my Flutter Mane god spread

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Its such a minmax mon

craggy dagger
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risu is strong :3

252 Atk Sneasler Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 156+ Def Pachirisu: 102-121 (61 - 72.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

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252 SpA Choice Specs Typhlosion-Hisui Heat Wave vs. 252 HP / 60 SpD Pachirisu: 117-138 (70 - 82.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
RappaDead

spiral ridge
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mm

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whenever i think of follow me users i always wanna use clefable

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sus on my current team doing good tho

spiral ridge
tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 417: Pachirisu
Type

Electric

Abilities

Run Away, Pickup, Volt Absorb (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

60/45/70/45/90/95

Total

405

ornate bridge
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so what set should i run on sneasler if im not going for damage?

next stump
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you shouldnt be running it if you're not looking for damage

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much much better pokemon to be supportive

molten oasis
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Veil and encore a9, lovely

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And then the sneasler weavile lead that murder me, this ladder is so ass man

cyan smelt
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weavile wut

torn parrot
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people underestimating weavile out here

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i mean i wouldnt use it cus i hate tripple axel gambling

cyan smelt
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what does weavile do besides triple axel, knock off and upper hand

torn parrot
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the fastest fake out

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its strong and fast and ice type is valuable

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the bulk doesnt matter cus its a focus sash mon anyways

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its just a format thing

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if it wasnt her it would be chien pao

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it doesnt have an ability thats its main flaw

molten oasis
torn parrot
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im annoyed by a lot mons too

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im anooyed by archaludon

torn parrot
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holy cow

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there really was a million dozoz last regional

molten oasis
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Bulk up Tera fighting rillaboom

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I hate this game

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We really sure this is a good team cuz I’ve lost to basically everything and scale shot just loves to miss

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Feels pretty shit

torn parrot
molten oasis
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Managed to win a game missing 2 of 3 scale shots

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Most unreliable move ever I swear to god

cyan smelt
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Dual wingbeat is worse

molten oasis
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I’m done I suck

cyan smelt
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Mood

mighty stump
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How did Scale Shot Dnite become a thing I’m really not seeing the vision

cyan smelt
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Breaks sash

spiral ridge
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OHKO sash sneasler

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and 1 speed boost allows for outspeed of some higher speed tier mons

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i forget exact list but Emma told me the number before

mighty stump
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Okay but counterpoint Dual Wingbeat + ESpeed

molten oasis
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Miss every fucking scale shot

mighty stump
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Seems fraud

molten oasis
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Might as well only run 100% accurate moves cuz my accuracy on not 100% accurate moves is fucking 50%

mighty stump
molten oasis
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Real

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Bye dnite, you failed me, multiple times

torn parrot
mighty stump
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When I play knowing I won’t miss I’m balling

molten oasis
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It’s fine with like, a9 with blizzard cuz it doesn’t miss under weather, otherwise I’m just, not playing moves that miss

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That or I just go play MHR lol

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Might need speed control now

mighty stump
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When in doubt, Adaptability Basculegion 😎

molten oasis
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Real, I mean sure it seems ok here

torn parrot
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ape honestly seems okay too

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oh

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nvm i forgot lol

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ignore me

molten oasis
molten oasis
torn parrot
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i think its fine honestly

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2 doesnt seem so bad

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but

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tho with amoongus its probably not the best

molten oasis
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I also prefer having 1 set up

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2 set up has usually felt clunky for me

bold geode
torn parrot
cyan smelt
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for speed control are you thinking tw or icy wind eweb

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monke really loves rilla huh

bold geode
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Yes

cyan smelt
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do you like the elemental monkeys because very few people do

bold geode
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They're alright
Except for Simisear

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Simisage looks dope actually

cyan smelt
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simipour looks creepy

bold geode
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But Rillaboom is just better Simisage

cyan smelt
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hell, rilla is better bulu

torn parrot
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rillaboom is just better calyrex shadow honestly

cyan smelt
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speaking of that i need to ev my skeledirge for caly-i high horsepower to be a comfortable 2hko

tiny peak
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What are some good teammates for annihilape?

cyan smelt
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maushold

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some people have been going mausape and peli arch

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so you can beat up into either arch or ape

torn parrot
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some people have been just taking it with other redirectors as well and foregoing beat up

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thats just another option

cyan smelt
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it's v versatile

rustic mountain
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i like moves that can miss, gets the adrenaline pumping

cyan smelt
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nothing like rng screwing you over lmao

rustic mountain
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am i really gaming if i dont have a blood vessel about to pop in anticipation of the turn

cyan smelt
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those teams with fissure dozo and sheer cold lapras are pretty funny ngl

rustic mountain
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they r something

molten oasis
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Why are people playing bullet seed rilla regularly now

rustic mountain
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cuz it just won

cyan smelt
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def boost into arch

molten oasis
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I feel like I’m just losing to everything due to having 0 knowledge

molten oasis
rustic mountain
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y do u have 0 knowledge

cyan smelt
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if it's with arch it's def for stamina boost

rustic mountain
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if its not w. arch jus run av haha its really only for w. arch

molten oasis
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which is probably gonna continue

rustic mountain
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thats not that long

molten oasis
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Well everything I fight on ladder feels new or haha funky Tera

rustic mountain
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meta hasnt changed that much lol

bold geode
rustic mountain
craggy dagger
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it’s quite a long time if you didn’t watch regionals or kept up with any vgc related things-

molten oasis
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And now I have to anticipate more than I thought and I just feel frustrated asf

cyan smelt
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i need to up my knowledge before perth

molten oasis
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Cuz the team is supposedly good

spiral ridge
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Gonna be real I never watched day two cus no timestamp comment kirbyhappy

molten oasis
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But idk if it really feels good

craggy dagger
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though for me it’s more of a skill issue than anything else robin_wheeze

rustic mountain
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if u missed like 2 weeks ud still be fine its still mons at the end of the day

molten oasis
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That or I’m stuck on low elo hell so everything’s just wack

bold geode
rustic mountain
#

things arent THAT different yet

craggy dagger
#

like i’ll admit that i have a genuine skill issue cuz i always play gimmicky things

rustic mountain
#

weve kinda settled into whats good maybe some comps change a bit but nothing crazy

molten oasis
#

I feel like I just keep getting got

craggy dagger
rustic mountain
#

otherwise ur gimmick jus dies out

molten oasis
#

Like WOW weavile cripples my team next to sneasler

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Or WOW I got parahaxed by Raichu

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And ALL of my scale shots miss

bold geode
#

Also @rustic mountain Farig once again proving a point I brought up that Scarf Basc and Ghost Blast Pult would do better if they were used with prio block lmao

spiral ridge
#

Weavile is a bitch saw a bunch of them month or so back

rustic mountain
# craggy dagger tera types are usually the most volatile

i think if u play safe and dont make super aggro plays ur less likely to get got. tera type is 1 turn surprise factor in bo1. once its out u know wat ur dealing with. give urself the tools to scout shit and observe before committing

cyan smelt
#

you running sucker on pult?

molten oasis
#

Or wow I got fucking crit

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I haven’t exactly been playing well, but it’s still annoying

spiral ridge
cyan smelt
#

oh

molten oasis
#

Tera fsiry basc trust

rustic mountain
craggy dagger
bold geode
molten oasis
#

Is pult not meta anymore?

spiral ridge
craggy dagger
#

but we do have one option that can kinda fix it robin_wheeze

tinted lens

rustic mountain
rustic mountain
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jus feels meh

torn parrot
bold geode
#

With either Pult or Basc depending on your choice you can either Turn out and TR to get a sweeper in or you can HH and attack for big boy damage

craggy dagger
#

wait dnite doesn’t get dwingbeat this gen??

spiral ridge
rustic mountain
#

im not saying it doesnt have its merits, i jus dont believe in it much this format i think theres things that jus fit its role better whether its indeedee female or p2

spiral ridge
#

P2 gang

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I should try fighting p2 I just like flying too muchkirbyhappy

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Take this you ape bitch

bold geode
#

Eh
P2 is nice
I just think we're in a point rn where due to that people aren't respecting Armor Tail enough
Plus I'm running Twin Beam KekHands

cyan smelt
#

flying means you can eq next to it

molten oasis
#

I wish I didn’t have to prep for 10+ kinds or teams, or that’s what it feels like

spiral ridge
#

Like apes get massacred

rustic mountain
spiral ridge
#

Forgot it’s typing

rustic mountain
#

ion even know wat non stab offensive attacks ud want onnit outside tera blast

bold geode
#

Good thing I have Tera Normal Helping Hand Life Orb Hyper Voice

rustic mountain
#

which can be used as a normal move anyway

bold geode
#

BM Farig with Incin or something else that can pivot out really is just like the P2 Ursa stuff tbh

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Same concepts

rustic mountain
#

i did bm farig incin stuff its solid

spiral ridge
#

Mannn

cyan smelt
#

i might go back to my farig, gambit, blursa team

spiral ridge
#

Second fucking reg G is back my forgetful ass is so gonna protect in front of Urshi I already know

rustic mountain
#

but its waaaaay too position based and u get caught out once ur basically screwed. i didnt like such little margin for error

bold geode
#

It's what I'm doing rn for a change of pace
Sneasler Coaching got old plus I was tired of dealing with Gholdengo and Amoongus
Tree you stfu I know one thing you can say lmao

rustic mountain
#

?

bold geode
#

"Magmar"

rustic mountain
#

ngl wasnt even thinkin that off rip but yea

bold geode
#

Look speed control is nice okay

spiral ridge
#

I gotta learn to use Sus regen more

rustic mountain
#

it is but jus player diff w/o it

spiral ridge
#

I don’t capitalize on it at all and I’m using a luna balance so like

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Should prob get on that KekCry

bold geode
#

Anyways I'm trying A9 now with the BM Farig stuff for a 6th cuz I was gonna use Dnite but like
I wasn't using that shit at all lmao

molten oasis
#

Maybe that’s why I like restricted ik what I have to prep for, and there’s like a few teams to prep for

rustic mountain
molten oasis
#

This format I just feel like there’s something completely new on a weekly basis, so I can’t just get 1 good team I keep having to jump around, skill issue ig

bold geode
#

Anyways the Sneasler cope is hard
Twin Beam time

spiral ridge
rustic mountain
spiral ridge
#

I gotta trust it’s beef more probably cus taking hits on swap with nothing you can do feels badd

molten oasis
#

Ig that’s true

rustic mountain
#

plus i feel like there really isnt that many archetypes in reg h

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jus variations of the same kind of archetypes

molten oasis
#

Those variations are what mix me up

spiral ridge
#

Common cores yeah

spiral ridge
molten oasis
#

Cuz it’s usually something odd I haven’t played against and then I lose to it

#

…no

spiral ridge
#

bold geode
#

My Dozo MU actually might be a little rough
Eh we figure it out

spiral ridge
#

If you wanna learn on the spot dude that’s a good start KEKWCRY

molten oasis
#

I don’t have a lot of time to play bo3 usually cuz I play, not at home that much

rustic mountain
#

yea jus gta be able to identify what u gta do with those differences

spiral ridge
#

BO1 has OTS?

molten oasis
#

Monster Hunter addiction

rustic mountain
spiral ridge
rustic mountain
#

sounds like something to work on then

molten oasis
rustic mountain
#

generally no lol

molten oasis
#

If I ask nothing lol

spiral ridge
#

I get like 40-60% success on it

rustic mountain
#

ik i usually dont accept

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im also using a super standard team if u can figure it out thats on u

spiral ridge
craggy dagger
#

synchro against dire claw sneasler..,,,,

molten oasis
#

Ig it’s also a new team as I played Delphox shit for a couple weeks then dropped it

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Cuz the Bloodmoon a9 dengo stuff I saw on stream briefly looked really interesting and something I’d like

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Which I do av Bloodmoon is tanky asf

cyan smelt
#

i need to watch more tournament stuff

molten oasis
#

Just need to work on stuff ig

cyan smelt
#

same

molten oasis
#

That and I’m sticking to 100% accurate moves

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Sick of missing with my abysmal rng

cyan smelt
#

i need to figure out good partners for gambit and gliscor

rustic mountain
#

not that i dont think running fully accurate moves is fine but sometimes u gta accept rng is part of the game and be able to look at the entirety of the game and ur decision making and figure out if u played it differently could the outcome have been different. cuz rng is gna happen u jus wanna influence the game in a way where u minimize it as much as possible

spiral ridge
#

Except on day 2 of gdanst so I just didn’t watch it kirbyhappy

molten oasis
#

It’s, constant with me

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It’s not that it’s every so often it’s every time I play the game

craggy dagger
#

there’s ways to fix rng but like
it sucks bc you’re doing stupid ideas-
laser focus makes all moves hit no matter what
shell armor prevents critical hits
but who’s running those

molten oasis
#

The only good rng I have is with freezes

craggy dagger
#

covert cloak/shield dust prevents secondary effects

spiral ridge
#

That’s a pretty damn good thing to have rng on dude

strange fjord
molten oasis
#

(It’s not I just like a9)

rustic mountain
#

ive had games ive lost a mon t1, gotten crit twice and slept and still won

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like sometimes u can only blame the rng so much

molten oasis
#

Well, yea I’ve taken games back after poor rng

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It still sucks

rustic mountain
#

sure but its the game we play

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ive had games ive won to incredibly fortunate rng, games lost to it

molten oasis
#

I also tend not to tell myself it’s a skill issue if rng had something to do with it if I know I just played poorly, cuz I already have issues with beating myself up

rustic mountain
#

i think theres ways to be constructive w/o beating urself up

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we are all looking to improve its constant progression

molten oasis
#

Yea idk how to do that, it usually spirals downhill pretty fast

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I can be better about it idk how to give myself criticism without it feeling like I’m beating myself up

rustic mountain
#

remove ur feelings from the equation. analyze urself as a player and be as objective as u can, not the easiest but gta be able to face ur flaws somehow. its not jus specific to u, every player is in a state of constant improvement, we all have our down moments we all have our own kinds of flaws

torn parrot
#

i find it helps to keep my mind focused and not tilt

rustic mountain
#

nd sometimes u gta laugh it off

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u get got, shit it happens move onto the next

molten oasis
#

I’ve tried that I still end up tilting overtime

rustic mountain
#

but remember what got u

molten oasis
#

It’ll eventually get to me regardless, ig that’s a good sign of stop playing

#

For the day

rustic mountain
#

i think ur issue is a short fuse, gta be able to hone it in without going off. losing streaks happen but for u it seems like the end of the world and ur ready to burn it all down and start again

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wen that happens that is

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i always remind myself during those like, what am i doing different then usual and is it the team or is it me. usually its me

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and yea sometimes it is good to jus recognize wen thats it for the day

molten oasis
#

I’ll keep that in mind

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Until I forget and have to have this conversation again arkeknine

rustic mountain
molten oasis
#

Kidding, hopefully

#

anyway hopefully the teams ok I just need to throw it at the builder more

rustic mountain
#

u jus gta play

molten oasis
#

I said builder I meant ladder MeAtTheDentist

rustic mountain
#

ahh ok

solid frigate
#

Meanwhile Me:Staring at the builder for god knows when

molten oasis
#

a9 blursa dengo is good, the other three will come in time, incin amoonguss works fine

#

For now

rustic mountain
molten oasis
#

I’m slowly getting over that

#

I usually take cores

rustic mountain
#

its cool to build ur own but man if u cant even figure it out jus yoink someone elses and game. for me what makes it feel more of my own is i jus hunt the mons myself

molten oasis
rustic mountain
#

atleast to enjoy the game in the meantime, so much pressure to always have to create a new team and innovate the meta

#

im jus trynna play mons man

molten oasis
#

Real

#

Anyway monster hunter time

solid frigate
molten oasis
#

sylveon?

#

did sylveon get some usage somewhere

solid frigate
#

nope

rustic mountain
#

its sprinkled throughout ladder but no irl results afaik

solid frigate
#

i just play it for fun

rustic mountain
#

fairy types jus kinda meh rn

#

queen flutter is dead

molten oasis
#

my queen is and always will be zacian

#

or tera fairy raging bolt

solid frigate
#

i just wanna try Sylveon and its suprisingly works

solid frigate
cyan smelt
#

what else is on your team

molten oasis
#

theres also tera fairy volcarona thats a cool one

#

or tera fairy miraidon

solid frigate
cyan smelt
#

neat

solid frigate
rustic mountain
rustic mountain
#

absolutely terrible mon

bold geode
#

Even with an off meta Mon
You should see my fuckin Reg G team now lmao

bold geode
#

Lemme show you two of my last few teams

solid frigate
rustic mountain
#

ive seen the calcs it doesnt do wat u need it to

bold geode
rustic mountain
#

maybe terrible is a bit harsh

#

its not good tho

bold geode
#

And my new Reg G team looks to be something at least to me

molten oasis
bold geode
#

Not showing it publicly though

molten oasis
#

It’s ok, it’s stats suck tho

#

Which holds it back a lot

rustic mountain
molten oasis
#

I’ve noticed people love throat spray Prima on ladder

rustic mountain
molten oasis
#

Yea, not a great guy

rustic mountain
#

its "ok"

#

which like why r u running an ok mon

solid frigate
#

I can't really find anything else other than Samurott and Nova was trying that during that time and me curious

molten oasis
#

It’s fun

#

(It’s not lol)

bold geode
rustic mountain
molten oasis
#

I like when something like, actually has potential, samu doesn’t really have potential

rustic mountain
molten oasis
#

Lmfao real, that attack stat even with sharpness is so depressing

rustic mountain
#

yea it sucks, i actually wouldnt mind it being good

molten oasis
#

Maybe don’t give it basically equal special attack

rustic mountain
#

yea the stat distibution sucks

molten oasis
#

Those stat spreads suck so much

bold geode
#

Hamurott genuinely is fake AF

solid frigate
#

Lets just say the only good Hisuian Starter is just Typhlosion-

molten oasis
#

Feels like it holds stuff like ray back a lot

#

Yea Heci’s a fraud

molten oasis
#

Rayquaza

#

Who has 150 in both attack stats

bold geode
#

Don't talk shit about one of my children

solid frigate
molten oasis
#

When they could have been put elsewhere

molten oasis
bold geode
#

Hey at LEAST Rayquaza has a general optimal moveset to run

molten oasis
#

It’s physical

bold geode
#

Yes

rustic mountain
molten oasis
#

Imagine if it wasn’t wasting 150 stat points in its special attack

solid frigate
#

technically Rayquaza's Only Selling Point is With a Mega-

And thats Gen 6-7

bold geode
#

I'll say it again
Rayquaza is mid
Not mid as in bad
Mid as in middle of the road
Which makes it a bit mid in single restricted cuz you want the restricted to be more than that
But that ain't stop me lmao

molten oasis
#

Charizard is apparently okay

bold geode
molten oasis
#

Which caught me off guard cuz I thought charizard was just bad lol

cyan smelt
#

I wish showdown had the in game music, I get why they can't but it'd make it so much better

solid frigate
rustic mountain
#

sd is always muted for me

bold geode
molten oasis
#

I don’t hate it I think it’s heavily overrated

cyan smelt
#

Every gen zard gets too much love from gf and it annoys me

molten oasis
#

Sorry to say I also think greninja is heavily overrated

rustic mountain
#

zards cool but it does get way too much love

bold geode
#

That's all it is
A mini Chi Yu
I see the vision I'm ngl I will accept a Charizard meta for a bit here
Cuz it's not a Gen 8 Charizard meta

solid frigate
#

mostly from Anime Fans

cyan smelt
#

And I bet in plza zard will get a new mega

rustic mountain
molten oasis
bold geode
#

Me making Tree have Nam flashbacks with that statement KekCry

molten oasis
#

Sneasler might as well be shifu at home

bold geode
#

Bringing up Gen 8 Zard

solid frigate
bold geode
solid frigate
#

lol

molten oasis
#

Cuz it’s the same fast stupid something fighting type

rustic mountain
#

i will say i was not a believer of zard until recently tho. im still not exactly sure it can continue having a place but its been relevant for a few tours now

cyan smelt
#

We have caly s at home (gholdengo)

solid frigate
molten oasis
#

See unlike caly s dengo is the goat

bold geode
molten oasis
#

Stupid horse

rustic mountain
#

chomps in a weird spot too since most a9 balance teams have av bm on em now

molten oasis
#

Wait av BM is normal now?

rustic mountain
#

more normal yea

molten oasis
#

Neat

rustic mountain
#

i told u it was good

molten oasis
#

Man like

bold geode
#

I'm still on Lorb BM myself
The Lorb + Tera Normal + HH addup is a high

rustic mountain
#

jus took ppl a bit to realize it

molten oasis
#

I though av Bloodmoon and dengo was good

rustic mountain
#

even after it won the first gc

molten oasis
#

And I also called a9 being good

#

I just cannot build shit lol

bold geode
molten oasis
#

lmfao

rustic mountain
solid frigate
bold geode
#

Dug that one up a while back

bold geode
bold geode
#

It's the fucking Rick Ross AI shit

molten oasis
#

Taking cores works best for me rn I think

solid frigate
rustic mountain
bold geode
spiral ridge
#

It’s the same dude

chrome knot
#

@rustic mountain i make big spreadsheet for toronto are u proud of me

molten oasis
#

Who tf asked in the first place

bold geode
chrome knot
#

im actually prepping this time

spiral ridge
bold geode
molten oasis
bold geode
spiral ridge
chrome knot
#

theyre fully complete with spreads so i can practice with friendsies

molten oasis
bold geode
#

Bruh ain't no fuckin way
I know you seen em

rustic mountain
spiral ridge
molten oasis
#

I saw the meme you send, idk who it is

#

That’s really funny but yea idk who that is

spiral ridge
#

He’s a really funny heavyweight

#

Which is why I sent the gif cus funny moments

molten oasis
#

Ic

bold geode
#

People said it was Rick Ross
People be gaslighting me?

spiral ridge
#

YEAHH THEYRE FUCKING AWESOME THEY MADE HIM SO FAT

molten oasis
#

I should probably actually go play MH now

solid frigate
#

My reaction to these memes

molten oasis
spiral ridge
bold geode
bold geode
molten oasis
#

Hell no I’m still annoyed about earlier

rustic mountain
#

biblically accurate wolf transformation

spiral ridge
torn parrot
#

iv never really understood elo hell thing
i get the whole thing is that its unknown but wouldnt a good team be able to break through most things down there

rustic mountain
#

elo hell thing?

torn parrot
#

yeah

rustic mountain
#

idk wat that is but judging from what u said after, its either the team or the player and if the teams good then yea.... pretty self explanatory

#

u can give some1 all the tools they need if they dont know to use em it doesnt matter

torn parrot
#

ye

#

id agree

#

it doesnt seem like cheese stuff in 1000- 1300 is that big of a deal if your team is strong or if you play well

#

i think if your struggling with low elo hell its probably one of the two things

molten oasis
#

I probably just played pretty poorly it’s been a few days

red willow
#

How many fake out mons is too many on one team?

#

Sneasler Incin and Rilla all run it but I feel like those are all good mons to be on?

torn parrot
#

you can probably run something else on sneasler

red willow
#

Coaching then prolly?

torn parrot
#

coaching, taunt, a coverage move

#

all pretty good

red willow
#

Throat chop is the standard one right

torn parrot
#

thats the standard coverage move yeah

red willow
#

Coolio thanks Ill try a few moves out and see how they pan

#

Gholdengo is prolly a go to special attacker this reg right? Considering adding it to the lineup Im working with

molten oasis
#

yes

red willow
#

So in theory if I have sneasler incin rilla and gholdengo what would a good rest of the team look like? Having a hard time deciding on the last 2 mons maybe a bulkier special attacker like primarina for coverage on other types Im missing for one of the slots?

molten oasis
#

prima works, talonflame for speed control is helpful

red willow
#

Right on sounds pretty dec

#

Not playing any pseudos feels weird tho lmao

molten oasis
#

You don’t have to play a pseudo

red willow
#

Im aware lol I just am a fan of alot of them

cyan smelt
#

Is arch a pseudo even though it's only a 2nd stage evo

rustic mountain
#

technically its not

torn parrot
#

im on the side of yes

#

because if its not a pseudo then pseudo means nothing competitive wise

cyan smelt
#

Don't all pseudos have 600 bst

rustic mountain
#

idt it was originated from competitive basis, jus that they are 3 stage evolution lines w/ 600+ bst. it technically doesnt fall into that

torn parrot
#

yeah it wasnt from competitive

rustic mountain
cyan smelt
#

Do any pseudos have more than that

torn parrot
#

how i see it is that pseudo is a fan term based on those 600 bst pokemon in every game

rustic mountain
#

for all intents and purposes u could put it there, just in a technical sense for how its been classified in the past, arch does not fit

torn parrot
#

i love archaludon

rustic mountain
#

psuedo for gen 9 was bax, arch is jus something that got an evo

torn parrot
#

well there has been more than one in the past

cyan smelt
#

Bax and arch are cool pokemon

rustic mountain
#

i genuinely feel like arch and applin evos were meant for gen 8 dlc, feels so random getting them a gen later wen weve waited so long for other mons to get the same

torn parrot
#

archaludon should have been gen 8

#

they did tyranitar's rival dirty

cyan smelt
#

Duraludon was definitely underwhelming, I remember in DAs even through a resist kyogre basically koed it

molten oasis
torn parrot
#

yeah

molten oasis
#

why is it ttar's rival

torn parrot
#

aperently they share a habitat and fight over it

shadow wind
#

Godzilla vs mecha godzilla

torn parrot
shadow wind
#

And real lore

molten oasis
#

Oh neat

red willow
#

Has anyone tried glowking plus bax? Or am I just coping for not being able to use kyurem? Lmao

cyan smelt
#

I still want to make glowbro work

knotty mirage
#

The hell since when kingambit got quick guard

cyan smelt
#

Egg move

patent marsh
#

^

knotty mirage
#

God damn it never really seen anyone using it once and it caught me off guard

strange fjord
knotty mirage
#

I will note that then damn now i can't even click prio move in front of gambit anymore i really hate this mon

rustic mountain
#

do not note that

#

gambits dont run quick guard

#

unless ur bad

cyan smelt
#

Isn't protect almost always better than quick guard

knotty mirage
#

This is close team sheet in game ladder i think i can expect everything

rustic mountain
#

i understand but im telling u quick guard gambit is not something u should account for

rustic mountain
#

but yea protect is one of the best moves in the game

cyan smelt
#

I mean talon gets quick guard too

rustic mountain
#

thats a mon that could actually use it

strange fjord
#

very low percentage of quick guard on high glicko rating players

solid frigate
#

I've seen Iron Crown used it during my Ladder Climb in Reg F and i was like what the fuck is that move

knotty mirage
#

I mean yeah it does feel really random for someone to run quick guard on gambit of all thing but at least this is something i need to be aware of now if i don't want to lose again

strange fjord
#

0.333% of Kingambit running Quick Guard (at best odds) is like 1/300

rustic mountain
torn parrot
#

the problem probably comes from you have to outspeed fake out users

dull ibex
#

hello everyone

solid frigate
#

hoi

cyan smelt
#

Hi red

dull ibex
#

sup

cyan smelt
#

just figuring out what to pair with either gambit/gliscor or geezing/toedscruel/incin

molten oasis
#

Gambit gliscor just try good stuffs

#

Incin amoonguss isn’t a bad direction to go

cyan smelt
#

And speed control?

molten oasis
#

Uh, I mean gambit has priority

#

Fake out is kinda speed control and you have redirection, but if you want speed control like tw or smth icy wind a9 is solid, or Talonflame/whimsi/murkrow

#

Dnite gets espeed

#

Rilla over amoonguss gives you grassy glide

cyan smelt
#

Might try murkrow

solid frigate
#

23 days later and i can actually start practice

cyan smelt
#

With what

chrome knot
#

donkey kong does not say that there😔

bold geode
#

What if he do
Deleted scenes

solid frigate
#

lol

chrome knot
bold geode
#

No clue KekCry

chrome knot
#

omg ok so like they used to have an actual donkey kong tv show LOL

bold geode
#

Oh I didn't know that
That's cool

solid frigate
#

I recognise that scene lol

chrome knot
#

it was pretty funny ngl

spiral ridge
bold geode
torn parrot
#

Twin beam is awesome

chrome knot
#

wtaf

bold geode
bold geode
#

I'm actually considering Ribombee now, what has my life come to

tiny peak
#

Hey guys I have a friend wanting to know which sites are best for seeing stats and stuff for the current regulation, I know of pikalyitcs but I've always had trouble using that one myself, any recommendations?

chrome knot
#

statcrusher labmaus pikalytics

#

top cut explorer for full pastes of teams from regionals

bold geode
chrome knot
#

???

bold geode
#

They're fixing to have to go make toys and shit up in the North Pole KekCry

#

Santa is coming to town
To recruit our 5 foot homies as elves

rustic mountain
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tf r u waffling about

bold geode
torn parrot
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Baaaa

dusky nova
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Can someone give me a build or some tips for double battle in sv with meloetta?

tiny peak
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So my friend is needing help with building a singles team for annihilape, I've helped him check some sites but he seems to think kingambit is a good partner for him? No clue if he's right there, anyone?

torn parrot
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Annilape sweeps and kingambit ends

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And great type synergy

tiny peak
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@torn parrot ok gotcha, now to figure out 4 pokemon that will pair well, thanks

gentle cragBOT
dull ibex
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guys I think I just witnessed divine intervention

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so I was going to win a battle with draco meteor right

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its arch vs pult

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he would need a crit dragon darts and 3 or 4 misses on meteor

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HE GETS BOTH OF THOSE THINGS

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@humble pumice read this shit

craggy dagger
solid frigate
dull ibex
chrome knot
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novaaaaaa

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i prep for regional properly ^-^

solid frigate
spiral ridge
dull ibex
spiral ridge
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So

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And how many crit?

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Did they just need one

bold geode
solid frigate
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LMAO

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I DID NOT EVEN REALISE

rustic mountain
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is this doubles ou or something, we have like 2 ppl here that play that

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cuz otherwise its not legal for vgc so not sure any1 would have anything for u

craggy dagger
chrome knot
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yay!!

craggy dagger
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i might just get another specs this year yaehmm

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realizing next semester which overlaps with the regionals is gonna be horrible for me-
7 classes RappaDead

rustic mountain
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1JdMv478b4&t=1553s
armarouge indeedee never dies it simply becomes reborn

rustic mountain
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lmao

bold geode
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Drain Punch Weak Armor
Yeah just nah

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Not worried about it lol

foggy lodge
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molten oasis
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Oh it’s weak armor gimmicks nvm

cyan smelt
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maxi good video ty

torn parrot
bold geode
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So BM Farig is alright, not winning as much as I was yesterday but I feel like it's good players + some bad plays here and there

real prairie
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Hey everyone, works been hell. How's it kicking, I miss anything exciting?

craggy dagger
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not really from what i recall

chrome knot
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waster of time bruh

torn parrot
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Holy crap it’s calyrex shadow

dense latch
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transform smeargle would be kinda funny

craggy dagger
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also you can’t say anything-
miss
glacial lance banded meow

dense latch
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totally worth the elo drop btw funny strat

craggy dagger
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i can climb back up RobinShrug
but it was funny just watching a +6 specs stab astral barrage