amoonguss honestly feels really annoying to deal with rn
#competitive_discussion
molten oasis
polar canyon
The only thing unpredictable is wether the ape is regular set or final gambit suicide bomb
molten oasis
The only thing unpredictable is wether the ape is regular set or final gambit su...
no cuz everyting has like 4 different sets cuz people are experimenting a lot
polar canyon
True
I saw a bullet seed rilla a few hours ago
Scale shot stuff running around
I guess it's a chance to also embrace the chaos and start experimenting too
torn parrot
amoonguss honestly feels really annoying to deal with rn
honestly i liked your gholdengo version
polar canyon
amoonguss honestly feels really annoying to deal with rn
What's your team?
Like just having taunt shuts it off and there's a lot of taunt users
molten oasis
honestly i liked your gholdengo version
monke want's to keep corv and i do like corv
its a major pain in the side for physically heavy teams
molten oasis
What's your team?
corv chomp a9 sini incin water type
polar canyon
Water type?
So far weezing has been pretty funny
No rain no defiant no inner focus no terrain no regenerator no clear body
No friend guard
lofty tartan
no cuz everyting has like 4 different sets cuz people are experimenting a lot
I mean there's more than one way to run a poke. I don't think that like... You should get locked into a mentality that this thing can only run one set and that's what it runs and it never runs anything else.
Most of these things can learn like 40-some-odd moves and it's not like they only have 4 that are "good".
polar canyon
Still yes to ability shield incin
torn parrot
monke want's to keep corv and i do like corv
what if you give corv taunt
molten oasis
Water type?
i've looked at multiple water types
molten oasis
what if you give corv taunt
we lose either roost bulk up or body press and it kinda needs all of them
polar canyon
I mean there's more than one way to run a poke. I don't think that like... You s...
Tbh tell me over 6 moves that a rillaboom could run
We got wood hammer grassy glide hhp protect u turn fake out
molten oasis
high horsepower fake out wood hammer protect taunt u turn grassy glide knock off
molten oasis
I mean there's more than one way to run a poke. I don't think that like... You s...
i agree, its annoying on ladder especailly with a core that seems common
polar canyon
I saw bullet seed earlier but like it clearly wasn't working
molten oasis
tbf im not expecting tera fighting tera blast specs dragapult from someone
torn parrot
I mean there's more than one way to run a poke. I don't think that like... You s...
for shizzle
expect that it will be unexpected
polar canyon
tbf im not expecting tera fighting tera blast specs dragapult from someone
If I see pult I'm still expecting band
lofty tartan
i agree, its annoying on ladder especailly with a core that seems common
I try not to get annoyed by it but I get you. But yeah, it's important to note that things don't just have one specific set always. If you want to do well, that is xD
molten oasis
yea, sneasler's have been mixed on ladder for me especially
some run coaching sash some are seeded, im more annoyed about sets that come off very weird to me
polar canyon
They're mildly annoying for threatening incin rilla and the status fishing
molten oasis
like someone had power herb archaludon with peli which didn't make sense to me initially
rare pumice
dual wingbeat gliscor really going off on my team
molten oasis
but i think it was so he could click it without rain
polar canyon
but i think it was so he could click it without rain
That's not too unexpected
polar canyon
And he was ready for the peli counters
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
torn parrot
i feel like i just always expect that the worst thing that can happen will happen and then im never upset about it
craggy dagger
rare pumice
https://pokepast.es/a5765f851caa0f0e this is my current team
polar canyon
i feel like i just always expect that the worst thing that can happen will happe...
Crits?
torn parrot
yeah just everything
if i see an ice move im waiting for the freeze
if i let myself go to sleep im waiting 3 turns for that boy to nap
molten oasis
i feel like i just always expect that the worst thing that can happen will happe...
i dont, really think that way although with how bad my rng is ig i should
polar canyon
I just try to be realistic
If you took that mindset literally you would just never click a move that doesn't have 100 acc
rare pumice
i lost a game to double freeze and then my very next game i won because of double freeze
zinc totem
polar canyon
You know it's tera water surging strikes 90% of the time
molten oasis
yea
spiral ridge
With shifu it did have lots of things but it came in trends
Like worlds it was mainly dark stellar Tera sash right?
rare pumice
a few days ago i saw somebody say something about gliscor vs sneasler and it just seems like the perfect counter to it in every battle i've had so far
molten oasis
and it gets checked by bolt pretty hard
spiral ridge
Flutter can be a big threat too
polar canyon
Flutter can be a big threat too
Then we get to tera scarf surging strikes
molten oasis
people want tapu fini so badly lol
rare pumice
are there any misty surge weezing users?
torn parrot
If you took that mindset literally you would just never click a move that doesn'...
that's why i dont like using innaccurate moves
I click them if i have to tho
but if i miss then im not surpised about it
polar canyon
To me it's a calculated gamble
Is it worth the risk when it can guarantee a win if it lands
torn parrot
thats a good way of looking at it
polar canyon
That's usually with wisp
torn parrot
yeah lol wisp is the move where im like "fuck it this is 100% accurate until it misses"
then im like fffuuuuuck
polar canyon
Missing a wisp and getting hit by a tera stab move
rare pumice
flame body endure volcarona + rocky helmet seems kind of silly
torn parrot
with my mindset , if someone can win because they got a double protect then i didn't deserve the win in the first place and then it leads me to think about how i could have not been in that situation
molten oasis
flame body endure volcarona + rocky helmet seems kind of silly
thats so mean plz dont lol
rare pumice
ok i promise
craggy dagger
flame body endure volcarona + rocky helmet seems kind of silly
just wait until prankster taunt goes in
molten oasis
lmfao
craggy dagger
plus taunt is already more likely to go into volc cause of quiver dance
rare pumice
hmmm
craggy dagger
if only we still had the move spotlight
rare pumice
i've never heard ofthat before
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
rare pumice
does that include enemy targets
craggy dagger
it’ll override follow me and rage powfer
chrome knot
yall stupid asf😭
craggy dagger
does that include enemy targets
yes but their allies won’t hit them
i don’t think at least-
but it’s cool that you can override follow me and rage powder
polar canyon
but it’s cool that you can override follow me and rage powder
Doesn't that get redirected by follow me and rage powder tho
rare pumice
so in a doubles, let's say you're against a rage powder amoonguss, you use spotlight on your ally with rocky helmet, your ally now suddenly isn't targetting the amoonguss at the cost of being the one targetted by the other opponent?
rare pumice
nothing apparently
nat dex says starmie, clefable, lanturn, and shiinotic get it in previous gens though
rare pumice
was it an event move/move tutor thing
craggy dagger
it’s why i said i wish we had spotlight
bold geode
If Reg G comes back and you can't find a way to deal with Shifu that's a major problem that you should be shamed for
molten oasis
i like shifu cuz of his design
and like, i like the mon regardless of how unhealthy it is for the game lol
craggy dagger
i don’t remember-
does a glide from the standard AV rilla “ohko” shifu-
molten oasis
yk whats gonna happen
molten oasis
i don’t remember-
does a glide from the standard AV rilla “ohko” shifu-
no
shifu has good physical bulk
craggy dagger
116 adamant doesn’t ohko a max max?
molten oasis
no
bold geode
<:YangyangStare:979671291495849984>
I feel like you usually got SOMETHIN
molten oasis
rilla, your restricted, bolt, amoonguss
rare pumice
idk if it's just because of lower ladder shenanigans but my weavile seems to be doing better than predicted as well for some reason
craggy dagger
rilla, your restricted, bolt, amoonguss
molten oasis
you have, NONE of those?
craggy dagger
i have rilla and valiant if that counts for anything
molten oasis
that works
craggy dagger
ig the main point is i have rilla
molten oasis
mhmm
foggy lodge
that's a bo1 problem kek
rare pumice
does pelipper count as an urshifu check or is urshifu doing way too muc with that rain boost
chrome knot
peli always lives ss in rain
craggy dagger
bleakwind
neat kayak
Why do I feel like going into online battles with a competitive Pikachu
rare pumice
i'm currently using wide guard on my pelipper and i really really like how often it comes in handy
craggy dagger
Why do I feel like going into online battles with a competitive Pikachu
i meannn
volt tackle is very nice
neat kayak
Light ball volt tackle
foggy lodge
The shiny vulpix still doesn't appearrrrr
rare pumice
is kanto ninetales seeing any use at all right now or is torkoal and pelipper completely shutting it down
craggy dagger
Light ball volt tackle
sash > light ball
neat kayak
Pikachu pondering his orb before he volt tackles
craggy dagger
is kanto ninetales seeing any use at all right now or is torkoal and pelipper co...
drought is nice but-
manual whimsy sun + premium tr sweeper koal
rare pumice
do you think people would start running ninetales more if it was given eruption
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
foggy lodge
Do you think Palafin would be more used if it had surging strikes
craggy dagger
do you think people would start running ninetales more if it was given eruption
ehhhh
not rlly?
neat kayak
Do you think Palafin would be more used if it had surging strikes
Would be op Ngl
craggy dagger
Do you think Palafin would be more used if it had surging strikes
give it to basc instead
neat kayak
Do not give hero palafin guaranteed crits that’s recipe for doom
rare pumice
ninetales one of the biggest victims of power creep oml
true steeple
Would I be prevented from registering for grand challenge with both my scarlet and violet files that are under the same Nintendo account?
neat kayak
I like using pokemon that look cool or that I just like that’s why I wanna make a competitive pikachu
Also is choice specs/scarf gholdengo better than sash
zinc totem
Would I be prevented from registering for grand challenge with both my scarlet a...
Only one user may participate per Nintendo Account. If you are playing both Pokémon Scarlet and Pokémon Violet on one Nintendo Account, you may enter using only one of those games
rare pumice
Also is choice specs/scarf gholdengo better than sash
a lot of people run scarf i think
foggy lodge
Also is choice specs/scarf gholdengo better than sash
Sash ruins the whole purpose of gholdengo ngl
Its supposed to be a bulky steel type
true steeple
Only one user may participate per Nintendo Account. If you are playing both Poké...
Okay, because I vaguely remember being told I could only register once per account for the SwSh tournaments that rewarded the shiny birds but I was able to register with both
rare pumice
that feels like some weird kind of poke-fraud thing to me
foggy lodge
SHINY ALOLAN VULPIX
neat kayak
SHINY ALOLAN VULPIX
Did you just find that?
zinc totem
Sash ruins the whole purpose of gholdengo ngl
yes and no. Sash definetly makes it harder but most sash users are either prankster support mons or sneasler so far or mons like blaziken and such (not taking account sturdy archa)
neat kayak
oh its male
It’s a femboy
Let him be a pretty princess
lofty tartan
Okay, because I vaguely remember being told I could only register once per accou...
You are physically capable of registering with multiple accounts, but officially it is against the rules
zinc totem
thats weird one but i agree 
true steeple
You are physically capable of registering with multiple accounts, but officially...
No, I mean if I try to register with both scarlet and violet under same NSO, will it stop me?
zinc totem
No, I mean if I try to register with both scarlet and violet under same NSO, wil...
it seems not
lofty tartan
No. I just explained that
neat kayak
He’ll still set up hail and aurora veil just as well
foggy lodge
Nah mine is specs A9
lofty tartan
That's why it was stated that it is against the rules, by TCPI lol
foggy lodge
He woke up and chose the violence
neat kayak
a lot of people run scarf i think
Usually I see timid nature with max speed
zinc totem
He’ll still set up hail and aurora veil just as well
argueable specs alola ninetales is better
unless you got specs on something else
rare pumice
I think I chose modest scarf for mine but I'm not sure
lofty tartan
Penalties
Players who participate using multiple versions of the game may be penalized, including removal from the Grand Challenge standings.
rare pumice
Poke fraud indeed
zinc totem
Also is choice specs/scarf gholdengo better than sash
people run scarf to outspeed some mons but i pref specs cuz make it rain is just nuke
tho NP hengo best hengo
foggy lodge
I'm prepared
rare pumice
Is it just me or does tailwind feel really underwhelming in singles
zinc totem
I'm prepared
i need work either tonight or tomorrow on my gc team
true steeple
Is it just me or does tailwind feel really underwhelming in singles
Eh, not always imo
zinc totem
Is it just me or does tailwind feel really underwhelming in singles
in singles i think its more situational than in vgc
neat kayak
I'm prepared
Bring the baby into comp
foggy lodge
maybe i should just drop fire spin magmar for will o wisp lol
zinc totem
maybe i should just drop fire spin magmar for will o wisp lol
that take care of dragapults and such so good idea
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
rare pumice
Magmar being more popular than magmortar feels right to me for some reason
foggy lodge
ain't no way it has the same speed as Pelipper😭
zinc totem
Magmar being more popular than magmortar feels right to me for some reason
i mean nothing changed since reg G
magmar with eviolite is just bulky like electabuzz
rare pumice
I wasn't around for reg g
foggy lodge
Magmar being more popular than magmortar feels right to me for some reason
They gave it back follow me so yeah
foggy lodge
I wasn't around for reg g
Electabuzz was niche but it worked good in the right team
zinc totem
time for movie and ice cream
foggy lodge
But i didn't see Magmar
neat kayak
Electabuzz was niche but it worked good in the right team
I use electivire because he’s awesome
Love giant electric gorilla
rare pumice
Is the electabuzz line canonically based off of apes or is that just the closest real world animal we have
zinc totem
But i didn't see Magmar
it wasnt as widely used as electabuzz but it had uses for will-o-wisp and that resisted ice caly glacial lance so it had some usage
foggy lodge
i think its just the closest
And its only for Electivire, Elekid and Electabuzz don't look like monkeys in any way
neat kayak
The day electivire gets swords dance is the day I can die happy
foggy lodge
it wasnt as widely used as electabuzz but it had uses for will-o-wisp and that r...
it had a niche for sure, i just didn't see it having results
zinc totem
Is the electabuzz line canonically based off of apes or is that just the closest...
Electabuzz seems to be based on the Japanese oni, a horned ogre that wears tiger skin as clothing and sometimes have powers of thunder and lightning. Most notably Raijin, who is often depicted as an oni, is a god of lightning. Its tail resembles that of a tiger. Its horns may be based on Tesla coils.
foggy lodge
huh
zinc totem
#nerdingtime
zinc totem
it had a niche for sure, i just didn't see it having results
it was kinda overshadowed by you guess it: incineroar
rare pumice
Everybody points towards the genies as "o look I know my pokemon lore!" when electivire was the true diamond in the rough the whole time
chrome knot
it was kinda overshadowed by you guess it: incineroar
they are two completely different roles.
neat kayak
Electivire got 2 buffs
One being trailblaze for speed which is great
The other being supercell slam which isn’t that great-
zinc totem
they are two completely different roles.
yeah but incine + electabuzz kinda made it that magmar didnt have as much use if im not wrong. I can be wrong ofcourse but it feels like those two going, there was not really slot for magmar in most cases
rare pumice
It's better than wild charge imo
chrome knot
magmar sucked in reg G because the amount of water types lol
magmar is super good rn
rare pumice
Is that in part due to torkoal?
chrome knot
no not at all
foggy lodge
yeah but incine + electabuzz kinda made it that magmar didnt have as much use if...
But no team used Inci Electabuzz
zinc totem
magmar sucked in reg G because the amount of water types lol
ah yes notably shifu
reg H makes me forget shifus
rare pumice
Idk slow drought torkoal running around means less water types I would think
foggy lodge
Shifu, Pelipper, Kyogre, Dozogiri, Ogerpon Wellspring is considerable i guess
zinc totem
i think i never saw dozogiri in reg G
foggy lodge
Idk slow drought torkoal running around means less water types I would think
No because torkoal is not a check for water types
zinc totem
miraidon goes brrr
chrome knot
dozo/ting lu + zamazenta but yeah
foggy lodge
i think i never saw dozogiri in reg G
It popped off near worlds
There were two Dozogiri teams in top cut of worlds and more in day 2
rare pumice
Don't some torkoal run solar beam
chrome knot
no
zinc totem
Don't some torkoal run solar beam
oh hell nah
those who run solar beam on torkoal dont know how to torkoal
chrome knot
@spiral ridge leave ur brain at the door
foggy lodge
Diego's Torkoal but it was niche and it relies in its own weather while Pelipper was like top 10 regular pokemon
foggy lodge
those who run solar beam on torkoal dont know how to torkoal
I mean
rare pumice
If you're using specs torkoal though I would think solar beam is an obvious choice though if there's no pelipper or a9 scouting ahead
foggy lodge
Top 8 in worlds with solar beam torkoal says the contrary
zinc totem
Top 8 in worlds with solar beam torkoal says the contrary
it was AV torkoal btw which is hilarious but its also only Torkoal who got there ig but it was more in general sense. If someone has spesific use for torkoal then for sure but i doubt torkoal saw much field other than spesific matches
spiral ridge
Mm I see some thing yah
craggy dagger
what'd i miss
rare pumice
Idk I'm just saying unless I see a tyranitar or pelipper coming I'd sooner click solar beam than earth power but that's just assuming for cases you don't insta eruption
bold geode
What did I come back to
chrome knot
@bold geode come back in awhile ngl….
@balmy glen go to vancouver regional in march asw (threat)
bold geode
<@817628066020065280> come back in awhile ngl….
Emma you get that pill cutter or
zinc totem
Idk I'm just saying unless I see a tyranitar or pelipper coming I'd sooner click...
i mean you already have slots full unless you dont run protect
bold geode
Oh so you just never cut the pills until the doctor was like fuck it why not
rare pumice
I'm talking about specs specifically I don't think solar beam is a good idea otherwise
bold geode
Emma just telling the HRT specialist "uh.... Nuh Uh"
balmy glen
<@350152416815218688> go to vancouver regional in march asw (threat)
Was planning on it already
balmy glen
Last year Vancouver was my worst tournament so gotta get revenge (I got haxed hella hard)
bold geode
Lol I'm sorry but I'm just like imagining for some reason like the doctor is like "you take half a pill" and you're like "no more estrogen NOW"
chrome knot
it’s not estrogen!!!!
bold geode
Is it not?
bold geode
That's a big word
rare pumice
there are never any regionals anywhere near where i live big sad
bold geode
But no just imagine you in there like "more of that now, we ain't got all day"
chrome knot
Vancouver is across the country from me
next stump
there are never any regionals anywhere near where i live big sad
if you don’t mind me asking, what country do you live in?
balmy glen
there are never any regionals anywhere near where i live big sad
Where are u from
Dillon copied me trust
rare pumice
i'm one state away from the east coast right in the center of tha US
balmy glen
So your central
bold geode
This Geoguesser now?
rare pumice
there was a batlimore???
balmy glen
This Geoguesser now?
Out here playing geo guesser for pokemon lfg
I wanna play jubilee for pokemon now
rare pumice
i must not have been playing competitive during that regional omg
rare pumice
yea i just got back into it like a few days ago
bold geode
Out here playing geo guesser for pokemon lfg
Me playing Geoguesser to try and figure out where the unannounced NA regionals will be held
next stump
ridiculous we don’t know them yet
rare pumice
the next one in u.s says sacramento ;c
bold geode
TPCi is dropping so many balls rn
And that's coming from someone who don't even go thru the circuit lol
chrome knot
the next one in u.s says sacramento ;c
bc we legit jus had Louisville loo
rare pumice
yeah i don't think i would've been able to make that one either honestly i'm not in a place where i can travel too far out of state right now
next stump
if you do want some tournaments to play in, you could always check the Play! Pokémon Event Locator for local tournaments
the east coast usually has a lot of local tournaments
torn parrot
people run scarf to outspeed some mons but i pref specs cuz make it rain is just...
Me too
And iv been vibing with life orb too
surreal echo
corv chomp a9 sini incin water type
might have to steal this tbh, i've been tryna run misty terrain grimm w/ chomp + corv
but a9 and sini in the mix sounds interesting
(also trying to run grimm and corv because I have marked shinies for both of them and I want to flex)
have you tried solo dozo as your water type?
lofty tartan
yeah i don't think i would've been able to make that one either honestly i'm not...
Dude I live in Maine. We're constantly out in the cold. There's never anything near us 
We even lack a local scene, so I went and got my Professor status so that I can host events officially/sanctioned 😄
November I can go for my exam to upgrade my status
foggy lodge
Someone knows when is the next global challenge?
lofty tartan
Well we have Grand Challenges 2 and 3 before the next Global Challenge
Grand Challenge 2 is this weekend
Global Challenge 1 is a long time away from being announced.
foggy lodge
Global Challenge 1 is a long time away from being announced.
Oh okay, thanks
okay im considering many things with my Magmar set
Follow me and Flamethrower are mandatory but i don't know if i should use fire spin, will o wisp or clear smog
real prairie
Hi all, just got home, miss anything?
next stump
I’ve said this before but holy shit I HATE global challenges
I totally understand the value they bring for players that can’t afford to go to IRL tournaments
molten oasis
CTS cheese the tournament
next stump
but to me, it’s just fake pokémon compared to playing BO3 OTS
foggy lodge
It is
I prefer playing in bo3 showdown ladder
But atleast i just play it to have an excuse to make a team in game
molten oasis
I need to get used to bo3 bo1 ladder sucks rn
balmy glen
Nah I like the GC I get to mimick being a Japanese player for a full weekend
torn parrot
best of 3 ots is just too mentally draining for me to play for fun and I have adhd
i can only see it as a way to casually practice for a tournament
surreal echo
I need to get used to bo3 bo1 ladder sucks rn
me too :/
i perform way worse on bo3 than bo1
atomic portal
best of 3 ots is just too mentally draining for me to play for fun and I have ad...
have fun playing cheese simulator 😂
surreal echo
bo1 i can crack 1600 elo easy, bo3 i can barely crack 1250
and i dont even use ladder cheese
atomic portal
how do u guys not get tired of the same bo3 > bo1 discussion like every day here
chrome knot
have fun playing *cheese simulator* 😂
ion understand ur purpose
atomic portal
ion understand ur purpose
meaning what
atomic portal
yeah everyone would agree with that i agree with that
but yall love echo chambering that 25/8 here
chrome knot
i barely talk to anyone besides people i know who compete irl lol
lofty tartan
Yeah I'm gonna remove myself from the generalization there as well.
GC is fine though. Bite sized thing I can do on the weekend before work.
chrome knot
fr
lofty tartan
Good testing for my Toronto team 
chrome knot
i understand you only play best of 1 & thats fine, tho naturally bo1 is better for weird ideas to fly past games
because you physically cannot see it💀
chrome knot
Good testing for my Toronto team <a:RainbowShrug:546000618461069312>
i be drivin out to Toronto next weekend for their double header cup
lofty tartan
Some people from my local scene are holding basically a gentleman's wager with a prize for whoever does best in the GC out of our group xD
Looks like a legit shiny Celebi from the Jungle movie event this time
GC1 was a Goomy plush
lofty tartan
i be drivin out to Toronto next weekend for their double header cup<:celebrating...
If only lmao. That'll be sick though.
chrome knot
yah itll be nice, get to test new p2 stuff
atomic portal
Yeah I'm gonna remove myself from the generalization there as well. <:arkeknine:...
wasnt specific to u or anyone + u just joined
mb if seemed that way
chrome knot
token online player
atomic portal
just eventually its like dang - why we still talk about this when literally everyone agrees
chrome knot
looking in here for any topic is hard on the eyes anyways
craggy dagger
looking in here for any topic is hard on the eyes anyways
slender zephyr
Waos
bold geode
looking in here for any topic is hard on the eyes anyways
Counter argument
You smelly
torn parrot
https://x.com/PengyTwitch/status/1848597263691419668?t=JUMoumM3p1aMfuGj9-awMg&s=...
Twitter
Realer shit
Fuck you all who want the bear
Fuck you guys
foggy lodge
istg this debate is so fucking funny 😭😭😭 https://x.com/KaguyaFalls/status/1848733801159033183
Twitter
molten oasis
I disagree
foggy lodge
Not when is faster and can put you to sleep
molten oasis
Cuz RNGsus is not my friend
torn parrot
Better asleep than dead
foggy lodge
Asleep can mean deadweight in the battle so no free switch in to something actually useful
molten oasis
Yiu know what shifu is going to do
molten oasis
SO DOES SHIFU
torn parrot
harder counters
foggy lodge
no its not that hard
molten oasis
foggy lodge
You know when i played my Koraidon team i never suffered from Urshifu
People never picked it and when they picked it im just enjoying the free win
molten oasis
Dengo is the hard counter
Bolt is the hard counter for shifu
They both don’t like amoonguss
torn parrot
you can protect in front of a Sneasler you can intimidate it you can ghost type it poison type it covert cloak it
You can screens it
molten oasis
Ok you only get 1 cloak
torn parrot
Misty terrain it
foggy lodge
Covert cloak is usually wanted on frail mons so lol
foggy lodge
Misty terrain it
You know which type is misty terrain
molten oasis
What runs misty terrain and what stops a dire claw stunning or sleeping first
foggy lodge
What is my Whimsicott going to do after clicking misty terrain
molten oasis
Die
foggy lodge
Geezing is the best option
foggy lodge
and we ignore that is pretty common that Sneasler is played with Rillaboom
molten oasis
I also think shifu is more fun to play than sneasler
foggy lodge
Or Indeedee
molten oasis
I don’t like relying on rng for wins that’s cringe
Not to mention coaching sets are pretty annoying to deal with especially next to gambit or pult
Even corv
torn parrot
They are both strong fighting types but Urshifu breaks the game you can’t limit it’s damage output without a damn burn
If anything is like less than optimal bulk it’s dead
foggy lodge
And what do i win from living the hit if i get a 3 turn sleep
foggy lodge
Sneasler has the same attack as Urshifu and is faster btw
molten oasis
I think
Shifu is more broken, however sneasler is more annoying to fight
So do you prefer fighting the broken guy or the guy that can shut you down t1 for up to 3 turns
molten oasis
I prefer fighting shifu
lofty tartan
Both are fine.
torn parrot
I can agree with it’s more annoying
lofty tartan
It's hilarious that all it took was Sneasler for Drago to be okay with Urshifu lmfao
torn parrot
I forgot how happy it made me to be able to protect until this reg
I truly missed it
molten oasis
I still would prefer to fight shifu
molten oasis
Nice
torn parrot
If it was a choice between Urshifu and Sneasler
Me personally I would be full on make out session with Sneasler
molten oasis
Im into bears now ig
spiral ridge
chrome knot
sneasler is ON my team
chrome knot
it so strong on p2
torn parrot
This whole time I havnt changed the color of my username in this server
molten oasis
committed huh
chrome knot
bwehehe
zinc totem
https://tenor.com/view/sneasler-pokemon-pok%C3%A9mon-legends-arceus-legends-gif-...
i love sneasler and always will ❤️
bold geode
Hard counters
Once again
If you can't account for Shifu that's your fault
Sure it hits thru Protect
But like
At least you know it's gonna do that
Sneasler's Dire Claw, which is the real issue at hand, is basically like "20% of the time just fuck you, imma use this and you better pray the game doesn't fuck you over"
Acting like breaking thru Protect is just the fattest deal breaker cuz you're a Wolfe fan person with a shrine to summon Incineroar at all times is just braindead tbh
You gotta look at the grand picture
Am I denying Urshifu is broken? Fuck no it's broken AF
But as Stefan Mott said
I'd STILL rather deal with it cuz at least it's not random chance like Sneasler is
And sure you can argue Steel types
Um CC
Um not having the Steel out and having to figure out how to get Steel in and not lose all momentum
Not being able to have Cloak on everything
Should I go on?
lofty tartan
Acting like breaking thru Protect is just the fattest deal breaker cuz you're a ...
Literally ignoring protect changes the pace of the game
molten oasis
At least you KNOW it’s gonna happen
bold geode
That's my point
Breaking thru is fact, not random chance
cyan smelt
you can also put lum berry on something
lofty tartan
You're acting like a 20% chance to sleep is way worse than literally breaking pace/rules lmao
little plank
Swagger unburden sneasler rock slide spam is the way
molten oasis
It is
lofty tartan
Y'all are coping hard or just can't deal with sleep when Spore is 100% of the time
molten oasis
Because that chance for me is MUCH higher
bold geode
50% technically cuz it's starting to feel like all statuses are valuable AF lol
lofty tartan
Don't leave yourself open to outright losing to a 20% sleep chance lol
molten oasis
My rng is ASS
foggy lodge
Y'all are coping *hard* or just can't deal with sleep when Spore is 100% of the ...
But spore is not a 80 base power move with stab on a mon with 130 attack and 120 speed
cyan smelt
personally i'm in the gliscor cult
bold geode
Anyways it's just another thing people are gonna complain about like every Reg so fuck it lol
solid frigate
what s with Maya and Drago being Polar Opposites in Formats-
lofty tartan
I mean they have, last I checked, never noted the BP of the move, just that it "fishes for statuses" and is "RNG"
foggy lodge
Gliscor is a good counter for Sneasler
bold geode
We all have differing point and idgaf tbh
lofty tartan
They haven't really noted Sneasler's damage whatsoever.
Just lamented sleep at a 20% proc lol
molten oasis
Cuz it’s not the main issue
bold geode
I mean they have, last I checked, never noted the BP of the move, just that it "...
If it had some sort of fucking drawback, it'd be fine lol
molten oasis
The main issue is the effect
lofty tartan
If it had some sort of fucking drawback, it'd be fine lol
Unseen Fist/Surging Strikes has literally no drawback and makes your opponent look like they're playing bad because they literally cannot protect against him lmao
foggy lodge
Its effect combinated with all the characteristics of Sneasler
solid frigate
ya know what imma just
foggy lodge
Good offensive typing, good stats, good movepool
lofty tartan
I mean... Protect in front of Dire Claw and hit it with a Ground move. Holy
bold geode
Like it's not the effect for me, it's the fact you can just gamble as long as you're out lol
cyan smelt
you can also never tell whether it's durshifu or water shifu
molten oasis
It’s not always that simple
lofty tartan
Omg it's unbeatable insane
bold geode
Anyways it's bullshit drama and arguing and I'm done lol
molten oasis
I’m gonna stop as well, sneasler is bullshit cuz of rng, urshifu is bullshit because yes
foggy lodge
To me its funny i don't take this seriously lol
lofty tartan
Are you actually getting emotional over me telling you that Sneasler isn't broken and you shouldn't be that upset over a 20% sleep proc? xD
solid frigate
or- Just have a Dengo for Sneasler lmao
But then again,Throat Chop
bold geode
Are you actually getting emotional over me telling you that Sneasler isn't broke...
Nah it's just a bullshit argument lmao
There's gonna be complaints about something every Reg so
solid frigate
anyways
lofty tartan
Arguments teach people things. You only get upset over a difference of opinions because I'm not agreeing with it. Arguments should be a means for learning instead of a means for getting butthurt
bold geode
Idrc enough to continue lol
solid frigate
turtl
lofty tartan
Arguments themselves carry limited negative connotation until you apply it to it
molten oasis
This argument is really opinionated
bold geode
I ain't butthurt
You have your opinion
I have mine lol
lofty tartan
Duh. When are they not?
molten oasis
Ig
cyan smelt
arguments are fine as long as they don't devolve into personal attacks
solid frigate
could we just-
Ya know keep our opinions for ourselves
lofty tartan
There are both subjective and objective elements to arguments.
torn parrot
Acting like breaking thru Protect is just the fattest deal breaker cuz you're a ...
Ayo literally battling a link to Twitter take with another Twitter take and then saying fuck you urshifu lovers to someone saying saying fuck you to urshifu haters Pot calling the kettle black Uwu
molten oasis
There’s multiple Twitter takes
lofty tartan
could we just-
Ya know keep our opinions for ourselves
Then what's the point of coming to this channel if you're not gonna state your opinions?
solid frigate
Ayo literally battling a link to Twitter take with another Twitter take and then...
thats twitter for ya lmao
lofty tartan
Just pat each other on the back and echo chamber?
bold geode
Imma leave before I say some hateful things
lofty tartan
Like.. way to get good lol
molten oasis
I think they’re both bad
lofty tartan
Imma leave before I say some hateful things
If you're gonna go to that length and say hateful things over a difference of opinion I think a break is a good idea for you.
molten oasis
I think reliance on rng is stupid, but I also think shifu is dumb because unseen fist is stupid
foggy lodge
ok but i do want to debate this thing is funny
molten oasis
However I think shifu is more fun to use between the 2
foggy lodge
All in just a peaceful way
bold geode
If you're gonna go to that length and say hateful things over a difference of op...
Not really that
Or I guess a product of something from that
Fuck it, I'm just gonna go
cyan smelt
both are busted in different ways
lofty tartan
I think reliance on rng is stupid, but I also think shifu is dumb because unseen...
I don't think anyone out here is running Sneasler because they're relying on Dire Claw RNG
torn parrot
Okay we can shake hands 🤝 and I’ll go watch the flash in peace
lofty tartan
I'm running Sneasler because it's a fast/strong poison/fighting type that gives FWG cores a bad time.
molten oasis
Sure
torn parrot
Agree to disagree
molten oasis
Enjoy sneasler
torn parrot
enjoy shifu
molten oasis
I’m leaving, stupid argument
craggy dagger
true steeple
https://pokepast.es/70505e7b028b840e question about this team. First, what are the starting lineups, and second, would it be a bad idea to put loaded dice on Maushold instead?
molten oasis
Ok Mika ty, I’ll learn how to be a perfect person and never get mad at anything, and everything is hunky dory
foggy lodge
Why loaded dice
cyan smelt
maushold always wants wide lens
foggy lodge
Wide lens is literally more consistent
craggy dagger
but like-
kings rock-
cyan smelt
also iirc loaded dice doesn't work with pop bomb
craggy dagger
craggy dagger
also iirc loaded dice doesn't work with pop bomb
dice only goes up to 5
torn parrot
I don't think anyone out here is running Sneasler because they're relying on Dir...
Tbh I really just think it’s so popular because people are desperate to find a guy to click close combat
craggy dagger
or 4
i don’t remember 
foggy lodge
also iirc loaded dice doesn't work with pop bomb
I think it does but you don't get too much about it because max is 5
torn parrot
I’m definitely desperate for a guy to click close combat
solid frigate
or 4
i don’t remember <:robin_wheeze:1283161599590400062>
4-10 in regular state
chrome knot
Tbh I really just think it’s so popular because people are desperate to find a g...
literally this
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
solid frigate
chrome knot
oh great 70atk
craggy dagger
yup
chrome knot
https://tenor.com/view/terapagos-pokemon-pok%C3%A9mon-pok-pokemon-scarlet-gif-16...
stealing ty :3
gentle cragBOT
stealing ty :3
setsumizi has given 1 Gen Rep to morrispxg456
solid frigate
stealing ty :3
Turtl
craggy dagger
stealing ty :3
girl burns through 50 different names a day
chrome knot
shush shush
lofty tartan
Tbh I really just think it’s so popular because people are desperate to find a g...
Fighting coverage good, usually, and there's less that punish it in this format.
Dark types threaten my team, fighting types threaten dark types
torn parrot
Yeah Iv noticed fighting is like incredibly valuable in reg H
lofty tartan
2 + 2 is 4
chrome knot
what abt this one @craggy dagger
lofty tartan
xD
craggy dagger
what abt this one <@541037106496012290>
craggy dagger
Dark types threaten my team, fighting types threaten dark types
and with not much fairy in the regulation-
true steeple
also iirc loaded dice doesn't work with pop bomb
Really?? I remember in ranked, my opponents’ Maushold would consistently get 10 hits with PB.
craggy dagger
that’s with wide lens
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
craggy dagger
it only guarantees a max of 4 hits
true steeple
that’s with wide lens
Ohh okay
foggy lodge
Twitter
lofty tartan
I'm more reminded of the meme about having two wolves inside of you.
foggy lodge
Makes sense
lofty tartan
bold geode
2 + 2 is 4
Wrong dumbass it's giraffe
chrome knot
I'm more reminded of the meme about having two wolves inside of you.
ngl it makes me think 1b lions vs pokemon
bold geode
There are two wolves inside you
One will maul a goat
The other will gaslight it
bold geode
ngl it makes me think 1b lions vs pokemon
What about one billion silverback gorillas vs one of every Pokemon
chrome knot
no collection of animal can beat pokemon
solid frigate
ngl it makes me think 1b lions vs pokemon
ok that is even more stupid
We know its Pokemon-
torn parrot
Arceus solos in two seconds
foggy lodge
Pokemon wins
spiral ridge
(ive had this argument on the pokemon side and my friend just said lion barette 50. cal)
torn parrot
It can’t be based on stats cus then the lions would have to be considered pokemon i feel the only way is for it to be based on lore
And the lore is that the lions are fighting god
solid frigate
i mean with all things consider we could just argue about a billion Lions vs A billion Pyroars then
chrome knot
@torn parrot listen to this song RN :3 https://open.spotify.com/track/5v7oj9PosKdE39x9uwDs6C?si=IFalu3ROQBif0HItjvQP8w&context=spotify%3Aalbum%3A75ScphmWaaBgNOTUh4fatP
solid frigate
honestly i rather compare against Pyroars than EVERY SINGLE POKEMON
torn parrot
<@386594600464416780> listen to this song RN :3 https://open.spotify.com/track/5...
That’s pretty boppy I like it
chrome knot
bold geode
no collection of animal can beat pokemon
Oh yeah but like
I think actually it'd be fun to think which ones they could beat before going down
atomic portal
ribombee beats a real gorilla
torn parrot
What about the gorillas
okay lions are one thing but....
im more scared of chimps than god
solid frigate
Monke
spiral ridge
im more scared of chimps than god
Fucking understandable they’re Hellspawn with their behaviors
I am a chimp fearing individual
rustic mountain
torn parrot
god i swear i feel like zamazenta calyrex shadow is about to become a legendary dynamic duo of pure destruction passed down as scary campfire stories to the zoomers of gen 10
the more i think about it the more it scares the hell out of me
so much for tera ghost to be immune to body press...
so much for dark types...
so much for normal types...
lordy
sounds like chaos
imagine being terapagos thinking you have a good calyrex shadow matchup
rigid robin
god i swear i feel like zamazenta calyrex shadow is about to become a legendary ...
uhh you mean the alphas?
torn parrot
alphas?
rigid robin
gen alphas of 10
rigid robin
what are alphas
the teenagers
torn parrot
i just called them zoomers cus its funny
foggy lodge
imagine being terapagos thinking you have a good calyrex shadow matchup
But you have Terapagos Miraidon
Raaaas
rigid robin
technically im a "zoomer"
foggy lodge
not really i don't know which restricteds cores could work
Zamazenta CalyDow for sure
chrome knot
@torn parrot what abt this one https://open.spotify.com/track/5oPOob0I5zgbXo3j6Trb2k?si=A9nfEe7qTHmv6n7kQ48awQ&context=spotify%3Aalbum%3A6XV76W17coHAKFdeyiGT08
rigid robin
but yeah. i get it. "zoomer" is funny. when im 80 and old, the young uns gonna call us "zoomer" the same way we call people boomers
torn parrot
honestly at this point i think zoomer is just starting to become the word for kids
and boomer old people
chrome knot
zoomer is 97-12 lmao
rigid robin
yeah. zoomers are kinda old now lmfao
chrome knot
im a zoomer and im 20 now
torn parrot
its okay the next gen will inheret the name
rigid robin
Im a 19 year old zoomer turning 20 soon
chrome knot
granted that’s not thaaat old but
plain drum
yeah. zoomers are kinda old now lmfao
rustic mountain
yeah. zoomers are kinda old now lmfao
torn parrot
im gonna be 80 and call kids zoomers
rustic mountain
internet is wild in wat world is 20s old
torn parrot
poeople wont know wtf im talking about
rustic mountain
rustic mountain
i mean kinda but relative to the average lifespan its not
plain drum
Right
rigid robin
its not the granny old, but its the "omg we arent children anymore" old
rigid robin
my bar for old is hitting midlife crisis - aka 40
rustic mountain
foggy lodge
i want to think i still have time
torn parrot
i have a midlife crisis right now thinking about how ill be 50 one day
half way to not existing ever again
rustic mountain
i want to think i still have time
thats jus being human
chrome knot
im dead by 28 anyways
rustic mountain
half way to not existing ever again
depends wat u think happens after
dapper crag
what’s that ugly annoying steel tower pokemon that keeps beating me in ranked and how do i kill it i hate that ugly thing
rigid robin
what’s that ugly annoying steel tower pokemon that keeps beating me in ranked an...
Archaludon?
rustic mountain
im dead by 28 anyways
?
chrome knot
idk
rigid robin
im dead by 28 anyways
very specific number
dapper crag
Archaludon?
i think so
rigid robin
i think so
yeah Arch is a nightmare
rigid robin
a good ol special attacker should fuck it up tho
rustic mountain
gl
dapper crag
a good ol special attacker should fuck it up tho
do you think i could sleep powder it and kill it
chrome knot
ty
plain drum
Cut the rope mentioned
lofty tartan
my bar for old is hitting midlife crisis - aka 40
I don't think there's a time limit on this - I've yet to have a midlife crisis xD
chrome knot
i kill arch with p2
rustic mountain
arch has a bunch of different ways to approach it
dapper crag
it’s time i add ursa to my team
plain drum
I've definitely hit that before 40
foggy lodge
do you think i could sleep powder it and kill it
It typically runs tera grass so you still have to be award of that
dapper crag
damn it
rustic mountain
u generally jus dont wanna boost it up and let it snowball
lofty tartan
Source - am 40
chrome knot
rigid robin
I don't think there's a time limit on this - I've yet to have a midlife crisis x...
if you have a good life, a good career, healthy family/friend life, u should prolong or even avoid a midlife crisis altogether
rustic mountain
yea midlife crisis are generally from lack of fulfillment/identity crisis based ofc the reasons vary
torn parrot
depends wat u think happens after
well me personally i think my brain will shut off and ill become a corpso
rustic mountain
well then yea in that case night night
torn parrot
yea midlife crisis are generally from lack of fulfillment/identity crisis based ...
i shall do my best to live until then so i have no regrets
lofty tartan
Ehhhhh agree to disagree. I have three autoimmune diseases - one is Lupus. Not a really great friend life - I have a job, recently reacquired, no career - I can go on
I have mental fortitude, and I think that helps me avoid a crisis
lofty tartan
I honestly think midlife crises are a myth
rustic mountain
jus usually those are reasons for it
lofty tartan
👀
rigid robin
I honestly think midlife crises are a myth
very interesting
rustic mountain
idk bout myth but maybe misconstrued?
lofty tartan
Could be.
rustic mountain
idk
rigid robin
everyone is different
lofty tartan
Like I had to come to terms with mortality pretty early - your brain goes through many physical changes with that sort of a thing.
rustic mountain
i shall do my best to live until then so i have no regrets
i think everyone winds up with regrets just make em as small as possible
lofty tartan
It's not just like "oh death is fine", but more getting jumpscared by it and coming to terms
rustic mountain
Like I had to come to terms with mortality pretty early - your brain goes throug...
yea idt its something we can ever really truly get past. coming to terms is a good way of phrasing it
lofty tartan
But your brain, and you as a person, definitely change after that sort of an episode.
rustic mountain
yea i can imagine
rigid robin
in your case, you are literally fighting for your life, so it gave you a sort of different perspective
lofty tartan
Ehhh I wouldn't really say fighting for my life. I just sat in a hospital bed and kinda waited through the pain.
It's not really as glamorous as it's made to appear lmfao
rustic mountain
even figuratively if not literally tho
plain drum
in your case, you are literally fighting for your life, so it gave you a sort of...
There's interestingly enough also a possibility of regressing from this sometime after
lofty tartan
Dude I was playing Pokemon GO and they wouldn't let me outside. That was about the extent of it xD
torn parrot
But your brain, and you as a person, definitely change after that sort of an epi...
damn scary
thatll be me
lofty tartan
They said I could take my IV and waddle my ass down the hall but that sounded boring and I was in a hospital gown so pass
rustic mountain
haha i feel u might be downplaying it with what context surrounded it while ur doing that but listen fair enough im not gna tell u wat u experienced
lofty tartan
Nah really. The nurses all said I was "the quiet guy down the hall that almost died"
torn parrot
aw ):
lofty tartan
I never really rang for anything and I just did my own thing.
Nah they were nice. lol
chrome knot
pray for me tn i get to find out if im crazy or not tmrw
rustic mountain
plain drum
They said I could take my IV and waddle my ass down the hall but that sounded bo...
Depends on the unit, I've taken my walks through the busy ones
rigid robin
plain drum
chrome knot
(just asking doctor what the proper like stuff to do to find out abt bpd diagnosis to atleast see if i have it/not)
rustic mountain
takes a lot to be a nurse i give props to all of em
lofty tartan
Depends on the unit, I've taken my walks through the busy ones
It was a trauma ward. Most everyone was just in their rooms. Not very exciting.
chrome knot
all signs point to yes but like i want confirmation and not assumptions
lofty tartan
Cardiac center.
plain drum
Gotcha
lofty tartan
rustic mountain
good to get confirmation, best of luck
torn parrot
i hope everybody having a great day
dense latch
i hope everybody having a great day
i am ty for asking
gentle cragBOT
i am ty for asking
eriksp has given 1 Gen Rep to mayahoppins
dapper crag
just defeated someone’s whole team with morkepo on 1 hp with a focus band and outrage💀
dense latch
also w name
torn parrot
just defeated someone’s whole team with morkepo on 1 hp with a focus band and ou...
god i love reg H
replay?
or in game
dapper crag
yeaaa i 💗 morpeko
torn parrot
im ngl
i already miss reg H
have to make the most of it
i feel like i am
enjoying it to it's fullest
dapper crag
i already miss reg H
frrrrr
rare pumice
so tera blast is always a special attack if you're not terastalized huh
torn parrot
yeah
torn parrot
1800 w furret
still can't beleive that shit
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
cyan smelt
Sneasler op
shadow wind
Still would rather fight it than Urshifu
cyan smelt
At least you can intimidate it and use covert cloak/lum berry
cyan smelt
And you can play around status
craggy dagger
:0
what set waht set
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
shadow wind
Well I mean
It resists both dire claw and CC, and with toxic heal it can't be slept by dire claw
And dual wing beat can break sash and kill it
90% of the time
craggy dagger
ice moevs though-
shadow wind
From the single ice pokemon in the format
torn parrot
wow ok someone won a tournament with gliscor
i respect you saying that lol but this does feel really good as I called it
molten oasis
congrats
molten oasis
i lost to a pikachu and a harc, i suck man
cyan smelt
I been saying gliscor is good
craggy dagger
sleep talk facade hh eq guts ursaluna…
craggy dagger
awe so not sleep?
cyan smelt
Why did they give komala facade
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
craggy dagger
i thought it was any non volatile stat-
sleep is a volatile status huh…
cyan smelt
torn parrot
i thought it was any non volatile stat-
sleep is a volatile status huh…
this is another case of gamefreak being defintely geniuses
absolutely smart as fuck
give levitate mons expanding force
and give the mon that cant be statused
FACADE
god they're so smart and not idiots
and defintely not just randomly selecting moves for pokemon without caring or looking at all
molten oasis
what’s a good consistent and fun team in the format rn
cyan smelt
Take away rising voltage from a bunch of mons and make it one of Bolt's signature moves
molten oasis
I give up building, I can’t
torn parrot
what’s a good consistent and fun team in the format rn
you could always yoink a team off a youtuber
molten oasis
Ig
torn parrot
Ig
this egg team
got 4th place so its proven good and looks fun
and its one piece themed (:
you will not be getting into mirrors
cyan smelt
Fairly sure I played something similar to that on ladder
craggy dagger
Take away rising voltage from a bunch of mons and make it one of Bolt's signatur...
rip rising voltage surge surfer achu 
molten oasis
you will not be getting into mirrors
I fought this twice today
cyan smelt
Rip rising voltage eleki
molten oasis
I will run into mirrors, and I just need to learn how to win the mirror
torn parrot
I fought this twice today
aw
torn parrot
well heres the thing
you can always just go to a list of regional teams and pick what seems fun to you
dapper crag
Anyone up for bbq?
molten oasis
you can always just go to a list of regional teams and pick what seems fun to yo...
I, yea, I, I’m indecisive lol
I went and looked just, didn’t, imma make a wheel
cyan smelt
Use morpeko
molten oasis
Fuck no
surreal echo
https://pokepast.es/d38674753fcc8cc6 Thoughts on the team?
Lowkey thinking of replacing incin for magmar
real prairie
Offensive A9 > Aroara A9
real prairie
did you intend to have swords dance on Garchomp then? you are losing the extra damage output of Life orb by using the amulet to avoid intimidate?
real prairie
Offensive A9 > Aroara A9
but this was more so because of the pace of Reg H as well as the recent performances of A9
surreal echo
did you intend to have swords dance on Garchomp then? you are losing the extra d...
no, im just running clear amulet + three attacks, i mainly ran LO to get kills on gholdengo
idk, i can probably switch back if i feel the need to
real prairie
fair
foggy lodge
why so low attack investment on ninetales
surreal echo
why so low attack investment on ninetales
im not running much offense, honestly blizzard is more for hella freezes if anything
foggy lodge
i don't get the point of screens A9 in this format
surreal echo
this just ensures ninetales can stay on the field for longer, meaning i can leverage it for weather control/freeze chance
foggy lodge
I think it's mid because it competes with basically every other weather
As well it doesn't do anything after clicking aurora veil tbh and it only has 81 special attack
surreal echo
fair honestly
foggy lodge
I think if you want to run screens use Grimmsnarl
real prairie
offensive A9 is there to upset other peoples weather whilst providing pressure to the dragons in the format
surreal echo
makes sense
lowkey what if I run av ttar with sand veil chomp on this team
nevermind, i'd have to forgo sash on sneasler
real prairie
why would you? either dont have sneasler out when you set up the sand or have it tera to a type not hit by the chip
its a pain in the arse, but its possible
surreal echo
yeah it is a pain in the arse and requires godlike positioning which is not always possible, that's why i probably wont use it
real prairie
fair
surreal echo
nils had sash on his excadrill instead of his sneasler anyways
real prairie
also true
im thinking what i need to modify to deal with sneasler a little better, im being forced into a ghost tera with Maushold or Pelipper to deal with it, and if its sash Pelipper is outsped on 2nd attack anyway
real prairie
any advise? i guess dropping Torterra for a better type coverage mon
real prairie
the anti sneasler
mighty stump
Overlapping dark weakness
real prairie
So change the tera?
Fairy is the usual for Farig but that leaves it suseptable to Dire claws
Whats the appeal of Corviknight over Skarmory?
foggy lodge
Actual offensive pressure
surreal echo
Whats the appeal of Corviknight over Skarmory?
corviknight has bulk up and mirror armor
surreal echo
Actual offensive pressure
and this
surreal echo
skarmory also has much worse special bulk
actually much is an exaggeration but it can be very noticeable in a match
patent marsh
corviknight stats also more well rounded
chrome knot
Whats the appeal of Corviknight over Skarmory?
optimized stats, move pool, ability
real prairie
fair, think i was hyperfocused on the larger Def stat on Skarmory
but its most threatened by fire and electric type attacks which in the current meta are mostly special (bar Incin)
surreal echo
yeah mainly electro shot from arch, electroweb from electabuzz, heat wave from magmar/volc, eruption from torkoal/typhlosion
chrome knot
fair, think i was hyperfocused on the larger Def stat on Skarmory
65hp/70spdef is rather shocking
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
chrome knot
you know its bad when LURANTIS has a better hp/spdef line
real prairie
65hp/70spdef is rather shocking
yeah, silly Q in hindsight
real prairie
you know its bad when LURANTIS has a better hp/spdef line
ive seen a ton on Lurantis recently, mostly in BO1 though
real prairie
maybe im just tired but Eviolite Foongus isn't worth it to ensure its the slowest in TR is it? Sure its Def + SpDef end up higher than Amoongus but significantly lower HP
chrome knot
no
gentle cragBOT
thanks <@224303371564220418>
oneofakindof has given 1 Gen Rep to setsumizi
bold geode
you know its bad when LURANTIS has a better hp/spdef line
Still coping are we
chrome knot
lurantis is trash
rigid robin
why is electabuzz good this reg?
real prairie
redirection + bulk + vital spirit + speed control
rustic mountain
magmars kinda ovetaken it as the main follow me user atm but yea its still solid
real prairie
magmars kinda ovetaken it as the main follow me user atm but yea its still solid
Magmar is good against the ice types (particularly A9) that threatens the dragon types it supports
solid frigate
depends if you want either Burn or Speed Drop
chrome knot
fart
foggy lodge
Electabuzz is also faster so it has access to a fast taunt, fast pivot in some teams with volt switch, etc
molten oasis
Buzz is nice into rain
real prairie
@mighty stump when he comes off his break
real prairie
Buzz is nice into rain
Also good on rain, gives it access to thunder
foggy lodge
<@250386799363489808> when he comes off his break
i want to understand tcg it seems so fun
but in first place i barely know how to play and in the streams i can't see anything😭
mighty stump
Im just like
Uninterested
Lmao
Ive played 500+ games every Reg at least so like
Im down a few thousand games
lofty tartan
i want to understand tcg it seems so fun
It's a lot of solitaire into drawing cards in a particular combination and styling on your opponent.
Or bricking in turns one and two, watch them play their deck and scoop your cards up.
A good method to learn is just go ahead and download PTCG Live and play there.
mighty stump
It's a lot of solitaire into drawing cards in a particular combination and styli...
Have you considered eating their deck
Didn’t think so
lofty tartan
It's quirky but the printed/layered cardboard is reaaaally unappetizing
Plus it gets done to death, honestly
dull ibex
vc?
bold geode
It's quirky but the printed/layered cardboard is reaaaally unappetizing
Just dip it in a little ranch, should fix it right up
solid frigate
Just dip it in a little ranch, should fix it right up
plain drum
He’s right though
torn parrot
fair, think i was hyperfocused on the larger Def stat on Skarmory
I’m gonna tell you a secret
Skarmory is only 2% more physically bulky than corviknight
lofty tartan
Just dip it in a little ranch, should fix it right up
😐
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/e285062ba206dcbf could this be ok?
spiral ridge
Looks fine yeah imo
torn parrot
Looks pretty nice
foggy lodge
https://pokepast.es/e285062ba206dcbf could this be ok?
why are u flame body?
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
torn parrot
oh lordy
iris and friends literally just said "hashtag feminism" and then refered to themselves as strong women
that was pretty cringey
why did they add the word hashtag
why did they do that
this is some 2017 shit right here
chrome knot
what..
torn parrot
they literally said the word hashtag
molten oasis
Does magmar typically run vital spirit?
craggy dagger
follow me vital spirit means you don’t have to tera and you get a built in sleep denial along with your eviolite
atomic portal
@torn parrot did u see gliscor won a tourney
molten oasis
follow me vital spirit means you don’t have to tera and you get a built in sleep...
So, yes or no?
craggy dagger
So, yes or no?
so yes
both buzz and magmar run vital spirit, though i’m not sure how it’s changed after chomp entered the meta
solid frigate
both buzz and magmar run vital spirit, though i’m not sure how it’s changed afte...
either ig? But Magmar's able to burn Chomp is still valueable
craggy dagger
i don’t think earthquake burns
solid frigate
wisp-
atomic portal
haha!!! yahhhhhhhhhhh
dang i had doubts - boy do i feel silly 😔
cobalt axle
Hello, in your opinion is magmar better with vital spirit + will o wisp or flame body+ taunt?
Can’t decide between the two
foggy lodge
i think vital spirit is always better
Because yeah burn chance is fine but its only 30% and is only with contact moves
cobalt axle
Gotcha thanks for the insight
torn parrot
yeah fital spirit is the way
will i wisp or taunt is up to preference and what you feel you need i think
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
real prairie
Have you considered eating their deck
i had to re-read this a couple times just to make sure
foggy lodge
real prairie
just got rinsed by a tera bug Arch
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/57b45c0e7dc94fb8 so do i keep eq here or nah?
torn parrot
https://pokepast.es/57b45c0e7dc94fb8 so do i keep eq here or nah?
Tbh I think eq might be a hindrance for this team
It’s like grassy + no earthquake swaps
In this case I think a difference move would give you more value
Personally