#competitive_discussion
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yea
u get like a mat and booster packs if u get a certain top result for regionals
nd then the prize $ ofc if u get far enough
wait nvm
does anyone with the dlc have a spare basculegion i can have i need i for my team
not a trade channel but u can try trading for one in #trading_sv
thanks
gg
qualify for worlds
Idk if it’s reg G and my opponent is using sneasler instead of Urshifu or iron hands I’m popping off and enjoying the 2-0
wait wha-
based
45mice gets it
Pile the more victims of Iron Crown pls
whats 1 or 2 good pokemon that do good against and average trick room team? Regulation H rule sets
Amoonguss
and Incineroar
Maybe someday
What Vitamins do I use on Meloetta?
do you want it to take hits better or do more damage/move faster
you can try this
Can i get opinion on this team i just got shiny alolan sandshrew from the event outbreak and really want to use it but not sure if it's gonna work
https://pokepast.es/3e3522251a68a9e6
drill run > eq
but looks fine otherwise
lol
seeing corviknight levitate with its wings up is really funny
the fact that he came afte a game of corviknight being frozen the whole game is insane
freeze = oh ko
twice*
corvi got frozen game 1 and 3 in the final lol
I'll think about it then because i ussualy prefer spread move
EQ hits a pokemon after roost right?
you’re running earthquake and you’re gonna hurt your allies except krow.
idt that’s a good idea cause krow slash isn’t really a good offensive presssure duo
yes it does
unless you’re flying tera, roost gets rid of the user’s flying type
so happy that victor didnt win
that was just rediculous
i mean not his fault but damn
what a terrible way to win a regional if he did win
also drill run has high crit ratio iirc
I mean i can always click protect my ally when clicking eq but fair enough
Has a higher chance for a critical hit.
Ground
Physical
80
95
10 (16)
Copied by Mirror Move.
Makes contact.
Or should i just go for rock slide instead
this sucks why are you runnning this
i think misclick on aurora veil lol
a 10% chance to lower attack what is that move-
Oh yeah that was supposed to be veil i guess i mess up a little when making the paste

people doubted samurott when the reg first hit-
why is it that the pokemon i stick to, everyone ends up going /j
someone argued with me because i dared say it could be good
because i dared say you could get to top 100 with it
🙄
well now im just annoyed tbh
Real
guy has the power
it doesss
Realistically you could get there with like
A lot of things
Just that at what point is it player diff
that is true
i do genuinely think its a quality pokemon in reg H tho
doesnt fit on every team but still
Me standing behind my Galvantula pick
I think a lot of people only think about the mons on the team being what brings the win when player skill is a huge factor.
i play regular mons
fake fan
i don’t make the rules
rats
define regular 
i mean
people doubted most of the picks on this reg aat the start
grrerahhh-
outside of Topsy-Turvy and Clear smog, any other single target moves that impact stat stages either clearing or reversing them?
whats better? toxapex or cloyster bc i cant decide (stats an looks wise)
none
can see a world where shell smash Cloyster could be fun with a redirect to draw attacks away. this Reg allows pretty much anything
why is shell smash cloyster so popular
If you want shell smash gaming just use water spout blastoise
gl surviving a special move tho
Singles stuff
well yeah but thats not the question that was asked lol
oh
Is there anything cloyster can do movepool wise with AV?
Avalanche, Bide, Body Slam, Clamp, Dive, Double-Edge, Drill Run, Explosion, Facade, Frustration, Giga Impact, Headbutt, Ice Shard, Ice Spinner, Icicle Crash, Icicle Spear, Liquidation, Natural Gift, Payback, Pin Missile, Poison Jab, Rage, Rapid Spin, Razor Shell, Return, Rock Blast, Secret Power, Self-Destruct, Smart Strike, Spike Cannon, Steel Roller, Tackle, Take Down, Twineedle, Waterfall
Aurora Beam, Blizzard, Brine, Bubble Beam, Chilling Water, Frost Breath, Hidden Power, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Mud Shot, Round, Signal Beam, Snore, Surf, Swift, Tera Blast, Tri Attack, Water Gun, Water Pulse, Weather Ball, Whirlpool
Aqua Ring, Attract, Barrier, Captivate, Confide, Curse, Double Team, Endure, Hail, Helping Hand, Iron Defense, Leer, Life Dew, Light Screen, Mimic, Protect, Rain Dance, Reflect, Refresh, Rest, Scary Face, Screech, Shell Smash, Sleep Talk, Snowscape, Spikes, Substitute, Supersonic, Swagger, Teleport, Torment, Toxic, Toxic Spikes, Withdraw
A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Cloyster.
They both do entirely different things
I mean, ive seen worse mons used:
150SpDef with AV and 200Def makes it almost tanky
Can someone tell me if this is exclusively an ADV thing, actually fucking true up to this day, or plain bullshit?
(This is not for turn 1 leads, it's in the case both mons switch out at the same time in the MIDDLE of the game)
122 Atk with multi hit moves isn't awful. could put it next to a coaching mon too
not how it works
maybe in a really old game but I doubt it
Bet, thanks you two
So I'm breeding for a shiny no speed foongus, the ditto has no good speed and a destiny knot, is there anything else I can do to make sure all the eggs have no good speed?
Destiny knot on the the ditto with no speed power anklet on an amoongus with no good speed?
well the ditto can have 6ivs if you want
just power anklet on whichever mon has 0 speed
I learned from my farigiraf breeding this is sadly not how it works
it only applies 1 of the 2 items in this case, so just power anklet to guarantee the speed IV gets passed only option 😭
they do stack
but 1 IV is always random
anklet just ensures that it isn't speed
with a power item + destiny knot you have 1/32 chance of what you are looking for with a random nature
there is still a chance that the destiny knot tries to pick speed though, which is negated by the power anklet, in those instances you only get 4 perfect IVs passed on
Thoughts on screens teams in the current meta? I feel like without urshifu and ogerpon (who can crit through screens) they're a lot stronger right now
misty terrain grimmsnarl is also a good counter to indeedee-m
ehhhhh
dire claw 
i mean screens can work but when archaludon is stacking those +1 spatk boosts and sneasler putting everyone to sleep with dire claw i’d say ehhh it’s not the best but it’s not the worst-
all screen users are weak to Dire Claw lmao
A9,Grimm,Obama(Abomanow)
you forgot someone
wait who
Dark/Ghost
Keen Eye, Stall, Prankster (Hidden)
50/75/75/65/65/50
380
Sableye-Mega

fair
and flash cannon archaludon-
scarf belibolt is too slow :(((
so what i'm hearing is, as long as I cover for those weaknesses (misty terrain, tera steel, haze) screens is looking pretty good
They are fine
Dawei made top 4 with Grimmsnarl P2 Ursa in Baltimore
im trying to pair corvi with screens
its good into the dragons (aside from arch) and sneasler
is chesnaught better than hidueye-
i’m trying to think of what to add for a grass fighting type
prolly scrappy > bulletproof right-?
Misty terrain screens grim sounds kinda rad
priority status blockage 🔥
Wonder if Sneasler is ready for swords dance toxic orb Gliscor behind screens
Dire claw that bitch
usually grim ends up as reflect, light screen, spirit break, fourth move, but i never end up actually using the fourth move when it's thunder wave or taunt
misty terrain might be the play
oh-
actually misty terrain sounds like a lovely way to shut down sneasler
Same here never know what to put
you might be on to something 
Fire, Flying, Normal, Poison
Bug, Dark, Dragon, Electric, Fairy, Ghost, Ice, Psychic, Rock, Stellar
Fighting, Grass, Ground, Steel, Water
Rock-types take no damage from Sandstorm.
Rock-types have their Special Defense increased by 50% in a Sandstorm.
Okay but for real
Swords dance Toxic orb Gliscor behind screens
What if
Hear me out
Yes it’s attack isn’t insane
But ground flying is cracked into the meta
And it hard counters Sneasler and dire claw
And outspeeds and is strong into almost all these mfs
And
AND
BREAKS SNEASLER’S SASH WITH DUAL WINGBEAT
Open your mind
i’m pretty sure i’m burning down the world but uhh
toxic orb fling tera flying acrobats?
you’d have to be wary of ice type moves though-
iirc even an icy wind will take that thing down
If you
Have a solid way to beat garchomp ninetales on the team
Then you can go crazy
that’s true
Flamigo
but gliscor is funnier
Yes it is is one of my top 10 favorite pokemon but is bad
I know japan was cooking with Gliscor at some point tho
i could prolly whip up something functional
This is fair but the idea is that it sticks around and isn’t susceptible to dire claw
It’s not a good Mon lol
so is this thing
Flying/Fighting
Scrappy, Tangled Feet, Costar (Hidden)
82/115/74/75/64/90
500
Why you getting on me over sini then if you wanna use a Mon that has no competitive relevance
Sinischa is great
My statement was I didn’t think it fit on that specific team
Because you asked me what I thought and so I shared
You guys acting like I was calling it shit
I apologize for not communicating that well
It still felt that way, and there’s no point in trying to get you to run smth else cuz you’ll climb to top 200 with just about anything
and I also apologize that I made you feel bad for running sinischa
It’s fine, gliscor isn’t a good Mon but whatever, it’s not like I can convince you otherwise
4/7
What does that even mean?
above average
clef been running misty terrains, also good for ursas
We have ways to beat sneasler tho
Like dengo is really good into it, any ghost type is pretty solid into it, corv is good into it
So I wanna clear the air a bit but the reason I didn’t go into much explenation about sinischa on the team was cus I didn’t wanna sound rude, but it definitely had the opposite affect which I’m sorry for.
The reason I said it didn’t seem like it fit was because there was hardly any set up or trick room mons for it to support.
I should have provided an example
and also any magmar a9 for freeze and burn
We have set up corv rn
And tr is more anti tw
On the paste you sent me it wasn’t set up so I didn’t see that part
It was more recent
We also have palafin
Since incin and sini already have pivot synergy we thought we’d try Pala
Sounds like a good idea
I should have encouraged setup instead of discouraging sinischa
My fault
It’s fine dw about it
It’s working out so far
Talonflame, hydreigon, incin amoonguss
Cool
Garchomp, p2 Ursa
Does tailwind hydreigon work in that spot?
Fari Luna, clefable
You can try it out
I think it’s ok
I'm trying to run weezing
Wonder if I should go for a tailwind user that doesn't care too much about ability
Or if I should just not bring weezing when I'm using it
has anyone had a dream that they build pokemon team and when you build it, it actually is banger?
No
nope
okay i guess im only one and i've played too much pokemon
Actually, what if I did this
Gliscor @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Veil
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 4 Def / 140 SpD / 108 Spe
Careful Nature
- Tailwind
- Struggle Bug
- Taunt
- High Horsepower
Or something
what the he-
What’s with the gliscor today
An eviolite gligar might unironically be better in that context actually since it's not using poison heal
Because with poison heal if weezing switches in it just starts taking damage
What’s the point of it?
Tailwind struggle bug taunt
I do that when I zone out
Disruption
Guess it doesn't bring a lot to the table
In practice it would probably tailwind and start clicking struggle bug for the rest of the game
i think i just ruined a KFC
i have won 8 games a row with this team in SD right now
i think i should build it in cart now 
im almost 1400 elo 
I guess
Tailwind snarl draco protect?
i think i cooked someone's KFC and Burnt it
what
Figuratively or literally
figuratively
i just cooked a Blaziken
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between MorrisPXG456 and Meech540! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2024 Reg H; Date: Oct 21, 2024
Wonder if eject pack hydreigon could do something
Not too afraid of incineroar anymore
Still very common but not 50% usage common
Is zero to hero affected by neutralizing gas?
nope
If this Pokemon is a Palafin in Zero Form, switching out has it change to Hero Form.
I could probably use paladin
While this Pokemon is active, Abilities have no effect. This Ability activates before hazards and other Abilities take effect. Does not affect the As One, Battle Bond, Comatose, Disguise, Gulp Missile, Ice Face, Multitype, Neutralizing Gas, Power Construct, RKS System, Schooling, Shields Down, Stance Change, Tera Shift, Zen Mode, or Zero to Hero Abilities.
probably the latter
i kinda laughed one battle i did with new team, dude electroweb with hisui electrode tera ghost with it and did epxlosion with wheezing then RQ 
Yeah idk this doesn't look right
https://pokepast.es/487feaf146dc240d
Explosion weezing is crazy
Bro saw team rocket do that in fire red and thought it looked like a good idea
The 90 attack non stab explosion
Like even if the point is killing your own weezing memento would've had a more impactful effect
they thought it would be like metagross 
lemme DM you the replay
campfire__ has given 1 Gen Rep to exzlu
I think sitrus is better on weezing
good catch
pain split
also replace protect on hengo with thunderbolt
you're specs not metal coat
I have a headache
By the way
Fans animate cgi sonic 100 times better than sega
But sonic prime has god tier animation
I kinda wanna play slaking
without the weezing?
If anyone says slaking they automatically are also talking about weezing
Hai bestie
do you guys recommend elektross for my water type
for what
what format
ranked doubles
no its awful
also is this a good star for my team (same format)
kommo o ceruludge and grimmsnarl
kommo o needs the moves fixed a little
does competetive allow paradoxes
currently no
But Reg G Allows everything and 1 box art legendary in 1 team
Is Reg G version 2 confirmed to be a 3 month format? Or do we not know the length
unsure the length
oh shit apparently it is included in the reg H announcement
I was just gonna say this
I was making sure I had my facts straight but yeah it's on the official announcement
It's gonna be a slog.
I feel you
i had a lot of things i wanted to try still left untouched so im excited but 4 months does feel like a whilee
reg g 2 will be the rising of lunala cm cycle
wanted to get aquainted with most or all the restricted just to kinda know whats up for them
yayyy lunalaaa
cm?
yeah we all played raging bolt in reg f and then everyone discovered calm mind bolt at the end
oh calm mind
i used that for a bit as my first team
i did not understand teh game enough to know when to and not to calm mind

X2
pleaseeeeee
i know i’m bringing lunala-
does anyone wanna multi battle?
i didnt know tat existed XD
honestly prob this saw it so much end of reg G if it is lunala coming it might take a bit
I don't think there's really a ton of innovation left to be had with Reg G. Not expecting anything crazy other than business as usual.
True
i’ll prolly end up playing lunala, mirai, or some random legendary nobody uses like base necrozma 
The meta will pretty much stay the same
Really I'm sure most of us can take or leave Reg G at this moment
I like Lunala but i will probably play Zacian Miraidon and Koraidon
.
I change my team every month or something like that
reg G feels very
restrictive because it’s one restricted-
so the team is always centered on the legend
I hated reg G but i hate reg H more so
That's really the crux of a single Restricted format. Your restricted is your "team captain"
me
im growing to like both formats a little ig
It's really to be expected. In double restricted it's all gonna focus around the two that you choose
Well i don't hate reg G anymore i think, its a decent format
I don't like or hate Reg G. It's just a "thing"
But i hate playing in reg H, i think is funny as a spectator so its okay for me
Taking or leaving it is really just looking at the four month length of a repeat format that was sorta okay and waiting to see what happens for Reg I
reg g feels very one dimensional to me
That's really just margin for error, rather than being one dimensional.
I don't think Reg G is one dimensional - there's a lot of strategies to it, and several team comps
There's a very very minute margin for error, and the window to be punished is huge.
And that's mainly attributed to the general power level of things you'll see - make a mistake, eat Astral Barrage 
ez wide guard
That's not even remotely the point lol
kill that
The Astral Barrage I put there could have been really any high BP move from any of the good Restricted mons you'll see. xD
ez wide guard
i have acquired love ball sneasler i am the winner today
It's just noting that if you make mistakes you're more apt to get heavily punished immediately.
shake hand rn
shiny or no
What is its electro drift
no bc i do not like butter weasel
Man I went and specifically nabbed a natural Shiny Alpha Sneasler for all this. My boy has gotten mad use
but butter sneasler x money spread ghold goes hard
this very well might be a skill issue but I just find playing reg g annoying due to that insanely small margin of error
winning doesn't even feel that good - like, congrats, your broken signature move KOd your opponent's team before theirs could
i got shiny love ball dengo & regular love ball sneasler
shiny 0spatk0spe love ball ursaluna
and a buncha non shiny personality marked other guys :3
apparently hisui sneasler spawns in coronet highlands massive mass outbreaks but it's been 5 resets and i've got nothing ):
@balmy glen goes hard?
I have to see the mons
fungus, incin, p2 in that order
https://pokepast.es/835d826ada416b39 thoughts?
Well at least you can pick cool combos
That’s something
Looks cool
Cool
specs engine boosted drift 
I'm interested in playing around with some Dialga TR nonsense in double restricted, just for funsies
looks edible nice
lmao
looks like food for my gc team
Okay what if you have 2 restricted weezing then regigigas
Then like almost all your mons are disgustingly powerful
That’s hilarious
Take my triple restricteds
First my regigigas then my calyrex shadow and zamazenta
it actually happened in Gen 4 lmao
someone would run Both Weather+Dialga
and Giratina at that time WAS VIABLE
Edible Gold?
Does gholdengo look edible, I guess he looks like a cheese stick
thats the only thing that at least make sense lmao
I was forced to watch an entire musical cross over between the flash and supergirl
Why
That sounds like torture
Just in case there was story
idk why you even watch it-
First three seasons have been bangers
But the crossovers are slogs
Curious about the notorious 4th season
ehhhhh DC is not my cup of Tea anyways
It’s okay
I’m watching a dead universe
Hopefully the dc reset will make it good
Finally bringing back green lantern after the massive green lantern hiatus because of one failed movie
gold is edible though-
That doesn’t mean you should eat it
lmao
Gold is edible you can put it on pizza
You had, ice, a landshark, gold, a cat, a dolphin, and to finish it off you drank a cup of tea
dude
Gun him down
golden drizzle on an a9 snowcone
With a side of landshark bits and dolphin
and heated tea
And to finish off a cup of hot tea
think this is called a surf and turf
@craggy dagger i want a coffee
LMAO
Idk if thats a Legal Surf and Turf-
Nop
yeah think so lmao
need me to whip up a latte-
then fly over-
wait-
wouldn’t making the latte there be better-
pfft
why would you
make it BEFORE you left

i think the main reason of people appreciate your team is just how much bullshit happen in that team and it fucking works-
He ended 5-3
why
not
which is good progress i would say
Respect
That person is basically what Don't Build Pity-
for a Person who build Niche teams
thats a next level-
That is indeed a team of all time
I gotta see the gameplay
bc wtf !
bc i’m stupid
i spent the last of my brain cells doing a chem lab after failing a physics lab using radians instead of degrees
His brain waves are
Seeing into a world unknown
Beyond our comprehension
Or he thinks tentacruel is funni

yup lugg
lugg is fine-
it’s beefy enough to take hits
unless it’s a special move
volca 
Dengo
It does kinda suck when all that bulk amounts to nothing
like-
like-
252 Atk Choice Band Tera Water Basculegion Wave Crash vs. 252 HP / 156+ Def Avalugg in Rain: 136-162 (67.3 - 80.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Annihilape Rage Fist vs. 252 HP / 156+ Def Avalugg: 84-100 (41.5 - 49.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
how many stacks on fist?
i set it to 200

so a beat up
Ice
Own Tempo, Ice Body, Sturdy (Hidden)
95/117/184/44/46/28
514
Avalugg-Hisui
eyyyyy
nope
36+ SpA Gholdengo Make It Rain vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Avalugg: 164-194 (81.1 - 96%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
The highest P2 in Lille didn't make it to top 8 😔
lol
It has to be 36 evs Gholdengo to live it😭
ah yes my 36 spa dengo and its biggest counter: avalugg 😭
252+ SpA Typhlosion-Hisui Eruption (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 156+ SpD Avalugg: 254-300 (125.7 - 148.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

oh
if anyone has any skill swap recs PLS let me know bc skill swapping is just so funny to me and i’m so mad i can’t have my slaking learn it
PFFFF
That's no boosting damage item Typhlosion
hehe-
252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera Fire Beads of Ruin Typhlosion-Hisui Helping Hand Battery boosted Power Spot boosted Eruption (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0- SpD Dry Skin Avalugg in Harsh Sunshine: 5128-6036 (2538.6 - 2988.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
that kills like 30 Avaluggs
thats called extinction
oof
252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera Fire Typhlosion-Hisui Eruption (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252- SpD Assault Vest Avalugg: 360-428 (178.2 - 211.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
wait wait hang on
still ohkos
252 SpA Choice Specs Typhlosion-Hisui Eruption (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Avalugg: 204-240 (100.9 - 118.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
someone give this poor lugg a friend guard
16 Atk Life Orb Sharpness Gallade Sacred Sword vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Avalugg: 112-135 (55.4 - 66.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
me getting my lugg to live on 1% by giving it max bulk so that it can do 10% damage back with icicle spear
eu regional doesn’t count
she’ll be back, she’s winning toronto anyways
confident girl 
im my own biggest fan 
How would you even get in that position
you don’t :3
Fair lol
Hey, anyone want to doubles battle? Ranked or OU rules?
Than you
@spiral ridge what
me no you
huh
does grandpa scotty need his nap?
yeah probably
you also need sleep
You need gummy worms
what.
me biggest fan not you
i was just mid typing something else so made answer really short 😭
i’m a big fan
thats why i put rowl angry cus me not you >:(
probably yeah i work tmrw mornin
cmon rotom where are you
yeah i shoulda gone up like,
10 minutes ago oops
i needa take meds but i like bed rn
i gotta fucking shower
Smelly
yeah i had PT 
I wonder if Emma can swallow pills now
what

that was never an issue
Wasn’t there a whole joke about you not being able to take some kind of meds
the joke was me overdosing
I swear it was pills
It was her not having a pill cutter
then i threw up
Shit were you? :(
only a couple times
it was
she couldn’t figure out how to cut tablets
it didnt WORK
you mean you didn’t have anything to cut it with so you just gave up
And didn’t go out and buy one
Did you get the cutter?
Lmao
Tattoo day
Emma’s jsut exposing her households lack of butter knives
tofu I swapped back to pult balance
better
Nice
What tattoo you gonna get?
Unowns
ok
Im not gonna comment or shadow though
fair
That sounds cool

lol
is there dragon thats somewhat fast and bulky? or is dragapult enough to bring resists to team? i think my team needs dragon type to round it up (its kinda fast oriented team)
garchomp
Garchomp @ Life Orb
Ability: Rough Skin
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Protect
- Stomping Tantrum
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake
Or
Dragonite @ Assault Vest
Ability: Inner Focus
Level: 50
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 196 HP / 204 Atk / 12 Def / 28 SpD / 68 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Tera Blast
- Extreme Speed
- Low Kick
- Ice Spinner
??
both 
only one has slot in
real
so thats why i'¨ve been bondering which dragontype i should add in
garchomp imo
Thoughts in this team?
I made Deci 1 point faster than Alcremie so she gets to use decorate before they move under trick room
She has acid armor to make her very tanky since her spc def is already good and I don't need to use decorate more than twice, and she can finish low targets with dazzling gleam
I was thinking in giving her all evs in def and hp but to be able to deal some damage is nice
i would give indeedee either psychic or dazzling gleam or mental herb
but otherwise it looks good
just need fiddle some with teras
like that indeedee worst enemies are fast taunters (maus and taunt talonflame as example)
Yeah but also safety googles helps to follow me and not be slept by Amoonguss
I had psychic seed so she wouldn’t take massive damage from knock off but if they had a lead with spore or sleep power, she would be useless for the rest of the game
If I switch one more for psychic,what should it be? Heal pulse?
thats why i said that either psychic/dazzling gleam or mental herb
cuz indeedee will struggle when get taunted
Yeah when she gets taunted I’m forced to switch her out
any good lilligant moveset recs???
close combat/protect after you sleep powder leaf blade/protect
yes i’m about to abuse sleep powder sm
after you torkoal is just nasty
if opponent dont have water types/fire types or any resist, defensive tera or weather control its basically nuke
Or you can taunt lilligant and hit Torkoal with a rock or ground move
Taunt with prankster
indeedee psychic terrain tho
They can’t lead or have 3 mons out at once
why you think psyspam is only team lilli is used 
they dont need to
either opponent is too busy handling expanding force mon and indeedee or they give easy switch
Don’t they all lead torkoal lilly?
not always
indeedee is normally the lead always for it
cuz double trickroom or getting terrain up and do things
also beacuse priority moves are also a thing psychic terrain lead is always gone to prevent that
unless they know they're safe from pranksters or priority moves
oh also
Well a dark prankster user like Grim or Murk don’t care about psy spam either
The target will move next on the current turn, ignoring priority. After You bypasses accuracy checks to always hit, unless the target is in the semi-invulnerable turn of a move such as Dig or Fly. It fails if the target has already moved on the same turn. After You ignores the effects of Quash.
ig
also this is kinda funny After You no longer fails if the turn order remains the same after using After You.
chlorophyll doubles lilli speed too 
Yeah but won’t go before prankster taunt
but its supåer funny follow me doesnt anymore make it fail unless you got faster mon
but regardless psychic terrai keeps them safe so to get prankster through need rillaboom 
so you'll lose slot and torkoal gets eruption off anyway
unless you can stall psychc terrain off
Not necessarily, if they don’t lead torkoal, it’s way easier to deal with it late game
i mean how you gonna deal with after you eruption late game if terrain is up
but they normally also do pull trickroom off first
Well armarougue is frail and not hard to 1 shot with a spread move
in tr they kinda built it bulky so
Also a flash fire really destroys torkoal. It takes massive damage from a shadow ball from chandelure or a psychic move from enemy armarougue
@torn parrot check DM i wonder if that one dragon fits well to team
i mean there really isnt mons that runs it
except mirror arma
Another big weakness of that team is wide guard. It blocks both eruption and expanding force
yeah but for wide guard theres like very few mons like pelipper (which people dont run for some reason atleast never seen others run but me so far), mienshao, gallade which is in psyspam, araquanid and maybe garganacl
to be fair im surprised people dropped hitmontop cuz mienshao exists
Pelipper is a must in Achaludon teams
Aka one of the most busted mons rn
Archaludon is pretty broken
Either run intimidate yourself or an intimidate counter that deletes all intimidate users
to be fair it has alot of counter play
sneasler., fighting type mons, annihilape
It has very high def and AV
not really CC mons pretty much leaves it sliver of HP
tbf people dont invest on its defence much cuz staminna
252+ Atk Sneasler Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Archaludon: 180-212 (91.3 - 107.6%) -- 50% chance to OHKO
That tanks cc
then you make it vulnerable to sneasler and any other attacks really
also haze is its biggest enemy
also some run also tera grass on archaludon
I have trouble fitting in haze in my team so, I use decorate on the bear
And that ohko
Even if it teras, it’s enough damage to ohko on a neutral hit
primarina, chandelure, hecidueye, dragonite is also underrated hazer tho its run band mostly or av, milotic, palafin
If I’m gonna use haze it’s Murkrow
you also can give clear smog amoongus
Eh steel is immune to poison
true but if you force tera
Unless they used tera already
and bear forces tera
Clear smog amoonguss was how I dealt with Muk evasion teams in reg G
But with evasion it misses
nope
heavy slam ignores evasiveness
If the target has used Minimize, Heavy Slam now deals double its regular damage and bypasses accuracy checks to always hit, unless the target is in the semi-invulnerable turn of a move such as Dig or Fly.
not many know
thats why its soi funny see minimize and just heavy slam them
so zamazenta also indirectly counters them
Rip behemoth bash
i mean it just what it is
thats why they got body press
I was happy to use amoonguss and see them suffer. Fucking annoying bullshit team
Evasion is one of the lamest shit they can pull
Nothings really heavier than Zama Crowned lol
Not anything relevant that avoids BPress
Caly ice
Its neutral to body press
10% difference damage wise while BPress is easily boosted anyways. Not relevant enough to trade the overall BP difference
Either way youre likely clicking it over 3 turns and with Pao support its a 2HKO either way
Slam is better
I have question is there possibility for zacian to be meta when double restricted format is up ?
we do not know till it comes thats the thing so we cannot predict
i use zacian eitherway so
I mean i really want to use her but man the nerf really hit her hard and cannot hold clear amulet just sucks
The nerfs really worked

Now nerf shadow rider and Urshifu
Just want to give her master rank ribbon i really hope it possible when the restricted meta is back
Maybe in next gen but with their nature being DLC i doubt it will happen anytime soon
With shadow rider existence yeah bringing ape might not be the brightest idea
ZacOgre is a thing so
for me i havent seen much trouble with it regardless
What you pair zacian with then ?
I mean have you not used the NAIC 3rd place team or whatever it placed
I ussualy prefer to makes my own team with my pokemon that i caught myself so yeah never really uses rental team that much
https://pokepast.es/34edb0d5536886d6 This was pretty correct
Doesn’t matter. Even if you’re making your own teams you need to at least review what’s been successful and why
Making teams blindly is a pretty inefficient method
now i dont feel bad using umbreon in my current team in reg H 
just to test it out but somehow it works
Fair enough but i only play on in game ladder so ussualy it just work but for zacian not that much
it depends really, i made zacian rain team, i did zacian ogerpon team, i paired zacian with durshifu but chien-pao is pretty much must for zacian teams
https://pokepast.es/51bc840fcb845b48 3rd LA Regs
but as tofu said: review what is popular etc and see how the team works. Thats why using rentals is good to see how stuff goes @knotty mirage
Again, doesn’t matter. Even in practice the review process is the same be it SD or in game
A possibility
But unlikely

I think it’ll be better when it doesn’t have to solo carry a team
Yeah maybe i'm just going to put all my hopes on caly shadow and zamazenta team i prepared then
Dunno why youre prepping for Reg I
Torrent does the same thing lol
Reg H isnt even over
May as well it will comes to us eventually
Yeah but if youre not good at low power format then
Id argue consistent practice is pretty important
You can learn a lot from this reg imo
Probably the most open format we’ll get
This gen
Well i mean i'm not sure if i want to play reg H to begin with how many "creative" BS on close team sheet is
Then play bo3 ots
as tofu said: consistent practice is important: thats why you can learn a lot from this reg beacuse there no power creep as much as restricted formats
heck i got into top 100 in cart andf stayed there for a week
I tried it last month and it's horrible experience
and i am like one of worst players in the server
Is your elo low?
I'm playing on cart not showdown
morning all, miss anything exciting?
ah, yea, carts worse lol

as tofu said: it doesnt matter regardless, you get consistent practice
if i got top 100 in cart, you also can climb high
The worst format is the one we play in
reg H is best format 
Easier said than done especially when there too much team that tried get cheeky win and i don't know how it work
reg H is my home
Reg f was the best reg for me
thats bo1 problem but one or two battles you find how to beat them
Felt like I really knew what I was doing
cheese strats definetly are wrench into tires
And my mental was ok
And dire claw ruining everything even if i play almost perfectly
is tru, eventually you know every gimmick and how to prepare for the ones you havnt seen before
im glad 👍
There’s fun in the format if you look for it
Bulk up or iron defence is very solid
I prefer bulk up
I love seeing corvis
same here
dunno if ill be abl eto wake up on time anymore
gliscor is is good fuck you goodnight
I think i like reg G the best in closed team sheet it easier to tell where team is going by just looking at their restricted

agreed about gliscor
having a lot of fun with Torterra
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between XxProphetxX12 and Kenni06! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2024 Reg H; Date: Oct 22, 2024

I should play showdown more 
nothing worse than a full or half power eruption
that after you earth power was rude lol straight into the tera fire too 🤣

this is why follow me against after you is good
https://pokepast.es/0dd8e1c6c9520dbd Thoughts? EV spreads are not final.
do you need clear smog and haze?
can opt for protect on Amoongus instead
or even sludge bomb to allow it to have some offensive pressure
outside of that it looks fine
instead of ghost i could also change gambit's tera to flying to remove weakness to body press, drain punch and cc
that also gives gambit an immunity to ground
good shout
ludicolo is just a nuke to TR setters lol https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reghbo3-2228385160
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between ineedanameso and avjack1! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2024 Reg H (Bo3); Date: Oct 22, 2024
dont like muddy water misses
wide guard or protect on Pelliper protect it from Surf
8-3 Gliscor last regional

Swords dance toxic orb high horsey dual wingbeat
I knew it
rainbow pledge + dire claw = 100% dire claw cheese 😭
Has a 50% chance to cause the target to either fall asleep, become poisoned, or become paralyzed.
Poison
Physical
80
100
15 (24)
Copied by Mirror Move.
Makes contact.
h-samurott also made top 4
(i think)
you were right though
i apologize for my ignorance
honestly-
hypercutter gliscor-
Hai bestie
saw a hyper cutter life orb tailwind gliscor at 1850
Uwu
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between chappell murkroan and lelouchswag! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2024 Reg H; Date: Sep 20, 2024
not protean-?
Most sash meows don’t run protean
Esp the ones with only grass and dark moves

nah obviously just carried by swamp pledge
that 1850 is a fake ranking
Hahaha
bo1 cts? yeah fake skill
opening chat to literal aids
whats new
trueee
So how's Prim
i just started playing today we'll see
Yeah cuz let's be real
It's probably either that or the dolphin
I can't think of shit
chomp a9 corv incin feels VERY good tho
Does the teacup feel shit?
no
Idk how much Sini could do into the Psyspam stuff or I'd try Dark tera
Looking for a water type?
we're exploring options
we've tried palafin and primarina so far
palafin wasn't acomplishing much
Palafin wasn't dogshit though
palafin sucks in doubles
Basc has been good for me, personally
it’s not?
Yeah possibly
But one thing is like
We using Sinistcha and we kinda have a bit of a Gambit hole lol
have you tried-
the lip fish-
Damn gifs.
Lip fish?
Is Sinistcha more important or are you more in need of a water type?
What's Sini doing for you?
The healing
Can set TR against the TW stuff
Actually bulky and good switching synergy with Incin
Amoongus can do the things, it's just like setting TR or having reverse button is also nice
Walking home with my kid right now. BRB
palafin got fucked my power creep lol
like rilla & arch in format spell disaster for palafin
I think it could be figured out and have success again
Just won't ever have the proper amount of time to do so because everyone just runs something else
tried a choice band set?
maybe its messing that extra damage
Nah
I think it's more building around it vs the item actually
good point
bruxish
as long as gambit doesn’t lock in kowtow-
you should be fine?
gambit can’t sucker punch cause dazzling
it also gets tr if you wanna reverse it :0
ClAm actually benefits it too
Like take it vs Mystic for example
ClAm Palafin can tera and OHKO Incin in baby form unless it's like Impish or heavily invested physically, in which case it's a roll that does 85% minimum (basically depending on spread)
Mystic always rolls
uwa?
isnt that was the sini for
It's just that Palafin has an opportunity cost that's always attached to it and your opponent has a pulse
oh true…
It's not like it's underpowered - 160 attack is severe. But getting it there is a chore
oh i wasnt talking about bruxish
wah-?
i was responding to the losing to trick room stuff that they were struggling with
yeahhh but like
it’s not a shit pokemon-
ah-
i see 
why this is so fucking true
did i say that?
i think you could just do double Switch by Rilla U-Turn and Palafin Flip Turn but idk
my brain is failing me leave me aloneeeeeeeee

i fought an oranguru there wasn't much i could do lol
Flip Turn leaves you open to being outsped and ko'd
Tbf Oranguru kinda bullshit anyways lol
which is exactly why i don't think is good
Just taunt it
Okay.
For that you'd basically have to reverse TR turn 1 or it's over
i dont have taunt
Like I'm not running Palafin idk wtf you're tagging me for making your case dude
Like once TR gets up for Oranguru it's over cuz then no matter what it's gonna just be attack + Instruct you're always taking

Fuck it
just beat up a team with it
Peak in here to see novas brain destroying itself
sneasler and rain, hm
Chomp Birb for Sneasler tbf
i mean doesn't corv alone kinda beats sneasler
If the current terrain is Misty Terrain and the user is grounded, this move's power is multiplied by 1.5. The user faints after using this move, even if this move fails for having no target. This move is prevented from executing if any active Pokemon has the Damp Ability.
Fairy
Special
100
100
5 (8)
Copied by Mirror Move.
Does not make contact.
You first bitchhhhhh
lol
garchomp failed to kill a volc at 30% hp by 1%
this guy has power herb with rain
genius clearly cuz i lost to it 2 turns later
why dont u just run bo3
seems like u could perform better
working on scouting out mu's rn
Or just OTS if you’re discovering things that change plans
Which if it’s for MUs matters even more
im just, gonna take a break, ladder got weird, RNGsus said fuck you, and im tilted

the core is totally fine, its the ladder's fun and unique things that i feel like im losing to, and rng, and poor playmaking ofc
too much unpredictability even for me this reg








