#competitive_discussion

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spiral ridge
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They just did it for worlds I think

rustic mountain
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yea

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u get like a mat and booster packs if u get a certain top result for regionals

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nd then the prize $ ofc if u get far enough

solid frigate
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wait nvm

kind sleet
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does anyone with the dlc have a spare basculegion i can have i need i for my team

rustic mountain
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not a trade channel but u can try trading for one in #trading_sv

kind sleet
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thanks

rustic mountain
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u actually have to offer something tho cant jus ask for one

balmy glen
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gg

kind sleet
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no one has one

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:(

torn parrot
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how do you get this?????

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I NEED ALL EVENT COSMETICS

rustic mountain
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qualify for worlds

foggy lodge
solid frigate
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wait wha-

rustic mountain
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45mice gets it

solid frigate
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Pile the more victims of Iron Crown pls

timber plover
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whats 1 or 2 good pokemon that do good against and average trick room team? Regulation H rule sets

foggy lodge
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Amoonguss

solid frigate
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and Incineroar

molten oasis
lofty tartan
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I'm going into Toronto with the intention of a Day 2

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goes 0-6 BlobHyperSweats

molten oasis
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NOOOO, THATS SUCH A SAD WAY TO START THE BREAK

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||RIP Garp||

rigid crane
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What Vitamins do I use on Meloetta?

rare pumice
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do you want it to take hits better or do more damage/move faster

random pecan
knotty mirage
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Can i get opinion on this team i just got shiny alolan sandshrew from the event outbreak and really want to use it but not sure if it's gonna work
https://pokepast.es/3e3522251a68a9e6

craggy dagger
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drill run > eq
but looks fine otherwise

torn parrot
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who won. the regional

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oh rght

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forgot

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tyrnaitar

molten oasis
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lol

torn parrot
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seeing corviknight levitate with its wings up is really funny

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the fact that he came afte a game of corviknight being frozen the whole game is insane

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freeze = oh ko

torn parrot
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oh

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io havnt watched the others

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ima watch

real prairie
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corvi got frozen game 1 and 3 in the final lol

knotty mirage
real prairie
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EQ hits a pokemon after roost right?

craggy dagger
craggy dagger
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unless you’re flying tera, roost gets rid of the user’s flying type

torn parrot
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so happy that victor didnt win

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that was just rediculous

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i mean not his fault but damn

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what a terrible way to win a regional if he did win

craggy dagger
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also drill run has high crit ratio iirc

knotty mirage
tiny karmaBOT
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Move: Drill Run

Has a higher chance for a critical hit.

Type

Ground

Category

Physical

Power

80

Accuracy

95

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

knotty mirage
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Or should i just go for rock slide instead

torn parrot
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this sucks why are you runnning this

craggy dagger
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i think misclick on aurora veil lol

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a 10% chance to lower attack what is that move-

knotty mirage
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Oh yeah that was supposed to be veil i guess i mess up a little when making the paste

torn parrot
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there he is hisuian sammurott

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i knew he could go crazy

craggy dagger
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people doubted samurott when the reg first hit-
why is it that the pokemon i stick to, everyone ends up going /j

torn parrot
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someone argued with me because i dared say it could be good

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because i dared say you could get to top 100 with it

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🙄

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well now im just annoyed tbh

torn parrot
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guy has the power

craggy dagger
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it doesss

mighty stump
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A lot of things

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Just that at what point is it player diff

torn parrot
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that is true
i do genuinely think its a quality pokemon in reg H tho
doesnt fit on every team but still

mighty stump
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Me standing behind my Galvantula pick

lofty tartan
craggy dagger
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bramble

real prairie
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Ludicolo 😄

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we all have 1 lol

torn parrot
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furret

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🐇

chrome knot
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i play regular monscelebrating

mighty stump
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i don’t make the rules

chrome knot
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rats

craggy dagger
solid frigate
craggy dagger
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grrerahhh-

real prairie
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outside of Topsy-Turvy and Clear smog, any other single target moves that impact stat stages either clearing or reversing them?

craggy dagger
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only difference is mine is tera fairy/fire

torn parrot
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My YouTube recap

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I’m a little obsessed

real prairie
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Terrific show

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and i dont even like musicals

night flax
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whats better? toxapex or cloyster bc i cant decide (stats an looks wise)

solid frigate
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none

real prairie
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can see a world where shell smash Cloyster could be fun with a redirect to draw attacks away. this Reg allows pretty much anything

night flax
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why is shell smash cloyster so popular

balmy glen
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If you want shell smash gaming just use water spout blastoise

dense latch
balmy glen
real prairie
night flax
real prairie
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Is there anything cloyster can do movepool wise with AV?

tiny karmaBOT
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Cloyster's moveset:
Physical Moves

Avalanche, Bide, Body Slam, Clamp, Dive, Double-Edge, Drill Run, Explosion, Facade, Frustration, Giga Impact, Headbutt, Ice Shard, Ice Spinner, Icicle Crash, Icicle Spear, Liquidation, Natural Gift, Payback, Pin Missile, Poison Jab, Rage, Rapid Spin, Razor Shell, Return, Rock Blast, Secret Power, Self-Destruct, Smart Strike, Spike Cannon, Steel Roller, Tackle, Take Down, Twineedle, Waterfall

Special Moves

Aurora Beam, Blizzard, Brine, Bubble Beam, Chilling Water, Frost Breath, Hidden Power, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Mud Shot, Round, Signal Beam, Snore, Surf, Swift, Tera Blast, Tri Attack, Water Gun, Water Pulse, Weather Ball, Whirlpool

Status Moves

Aqua Ring, Attract, Barrier, Captivate, Confide, Curse, Double Team, Endure, Hail, Helping Hand, Iron Defense, Leer, Life Dew, Light Screen, Mimic, Protect, Rain Dance, Reflect, Refresh, Rest, Scary Face, Screech, Shell Smash, Sleep Talk, Snowscape, Spikes, Substitute, Supersonic, Swagger, Teleport, Torment, Toxic, Toxic Spikes, Withdraw

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Cloyster.

balmy glen
real prairie
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I mean, ive seen worse mons used:

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150SpDef with AV and 200Def makes it almost tanky

dense latch
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doubt it’s gonna do much damage off a 95 attack stat

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though i might be wrong

wet wedge
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Can someone tell me if this is exclusively an ADV thing, actually fucking true up to this day, or plain bullshit?

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(This is not for turn 1 leads, it's in the case both mons switch out at the same time in the MIDDLE of the game)

real prairie
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slower the mon = weather setter

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at least that is how i always understood it

real prairie
next stump
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maybe in a really old game but I doubt it

wet wedge
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Bet, thanks you two

tiny peak
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So I'm breeding for a shiny no speed foongus, the ditto has no good speed and a destiny knot, is there anything else I can do to make sure all the eggs have no good speed?

real prairie
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power anklet

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destiny knot on the other parent

tiny peak
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Destiny knot on the the ditto with no speed power anklet on an amoongus with no good speed?

real prairie
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well the ditto can have 6ivs if you want

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just power anklet on whichever mon has 0 speed

patent marsh
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it only applies 1 of the 2 items in this case, so just power anklet to guarantee the speed IV gets passed only option 😭

real prairie
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they do stack

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but 1 IV is always random

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anklet just ensures that it isn't speed

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with a power item + destiny knot you have 1/32 chance of what you are looking for with a random nature

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there is still a chance that the destiny knot tries to pick speed though, which is negated by the power anklet, in those instances you only get 4 perfect IVs passed on

surreal echo
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Thoughts on screens teams in the current meta? I feel like without urshifu and ogerpon (who can crit through screens) they're a lot stronger right now

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misty terrain grimmsnarl is also a good counter to indeedee-m

craggy dagger
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dire claw TohruThumbsUp

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i mean screens can work but when archaludon is stacking those +1 spatk boosts and sneasler putting everyone to sleep with dire claw i’d say ehhh it’s not the best but it’s not the worst-

solid frigate
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all screen users are weak to Dire Claw lmao

A9,Grimm,Obama(Abomanow)

craggy dagger
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you forgot someone

solid frigate
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wait who

tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 302: Sableye
Types

Dark/Ghost

Abilities

Keen Eye, Stall, Prankster (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

50/75/75/65/65/50

Total

380

Other Formes

Sableye-Mega

craggy dagger
solid frigate
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fair

craggy dagger
solid frigate
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fair point

craggy dagger
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scarf belibolt is too slow :(((

surreal echo
craggy dagger
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plus or minus 5

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so maybe-

foggy lodge
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Dawei made top 4 with Grimmsnarl P2 Ursa in Baltimore

surreal echo
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im trying to pair corvi with screens

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its good into the dragons (aside from arch) and sneasler

craggy dagger
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is chesnaught better than hidueye-

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i’m trying to think of what to add for a grass fighting type

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prolly scrappy > bulletproof right-?

torn parrot
surreal echo
torn parrot
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Wonder if Sneasler is ready for swords dance toxic orb Gliscor behind screens

Dire claw that bitch

surreal echo
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usually grim ends up as reflect, light screen, spirit break, fourth move, but i never end up actually using the fourth move when it's thunder wave or taunt

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misty terrain might be the play

craggy dagger
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oh-
actually misty terrain sounds like a lovely way to shut down sneasler

torn parrot
craggy dagger
tiny karmaBOT
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- [Rock]
Resists (0.5x)

Fire, Flying, Normal, Poison

Neutral damage

Bug, Dark, Dragon, Electric, Fairy, Ghost, Ice, Psychic, Rock, Stellar

Weak (2x)

Fighting, Grass, Ground, Steel, Water

Type Notes

Rock-types take no damage from Sandstorm.
Rock-types have their Special Defense increased by 50% in a Sandstorm.

torn parrot
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Okay but for real

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Swords dance Toxic orb Gliscor behind screens

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What if

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Hear me out

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Yes it’s attack isn’t insane

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But ground flying is cracked into the meta

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And it hard counters Sneasler and dire claw

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And outspeeds and is strong into almost all these mfs

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And

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AND
BREAKS SNEASLER’S SASH WITH DUAL WINGBEAT

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Open your mind

craggy dagger
craggy dagger
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you’d have to be wary of ice type moves though-

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iirc even an icy wind will take that thing down

torn parrot
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If you
Have a solid way to beat garchomp ninetales on the team
Then you can go crazy

craggy dagger
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that’s true

foggy lodge
craggy dagger
foggy lodge
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Yes it is is one of my top 10 favorite pokemon but is bad

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I know japan was cooking with Gliscor at some point tho

craggy dagger
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i could prolly whip up something functional

torn parrot
# foggy lodge Flamigo

This is fair but the idea is that it sticks around and isn’t susceptible to dire claw

molten oasis
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It’s not a good Mon lol

craggy dagger
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so is this thing

tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 973: Flamigo
Types

Flying/Fighting

Abilities

Scrappy, Tangled Feet, Costar (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

82/115/74/75/64/90

Total

500

craggy dagger
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only used for scrappy and quick picks-

torn parrot
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I think it’s 4/7

molten oasis
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Why you getting on me over sini then if you wanna use a Mon that has no competitive relevance

torn parrot
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You guys acting like I was calling it shit

molten oasis
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It felt that way

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I get it wasn’t the intention

torn parrot
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I apologize for not communicating that well

molten oasis
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It still felt that way, and there’s no point in trying to get you to run smth else cuz you’ll climb to top 200 with just about anything

torn parrot
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and I also apologize that I made you feel bad for running sinischa

molten oasis
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It’s fine, gliscor isn’t a good Mon but whatever, it’s not like I can convince you otherwise

torn parrot
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4/7

molten oasis
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What does that even mean?

torn parrot
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above average

spiral ridge
molten oasis
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We have ways to beat sneasler tho

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Like dengo is really good into it, any ghost type is pretty solid into it, corv is good into it

torn parrot
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So I wanna clear the air a bit but the reason I didn’t go into much explenation about sinischa on the team was cus I didn’t wanna sound rude, but it definitely had the opposite affect which I’m sorry for.

The reason I said it didn’t seem like it fit was because there was hardly any set up or trick room mons for it to support.

I should have provided an example

spiral ridge
molten oasis
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And tr is more anti tw

torn parrot
molten oasis
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It was more recent

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We also have palafin

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Since incin and sini already have pivot synergy we thought we’d try Pala

torn parrot
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Sounds like a good idea

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I should have encouraged setup instead of discouraging sinischa

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My fault

molten oasis
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It’s fine dw about it

torn parrot
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I’m excited about how the palafin strat goes

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Sounds like a cool idea

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🤝

molten oasis
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It’s working out so far

polar canyon
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Yo

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What pairs well with ghold rn?

molten oasis
polar canyon
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Cool

molten oasis
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Garchomp, p2 Ursa

polar canyon
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Does tailwind hydreigon work in that spot?

molten oasis
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Fari Luna, clefable

molten oasis
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I think it’s ok

polar canyon
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I'm trying to run weezing

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Wonder if I should go for a tailwind user that doesn't care too much about ability

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Or if I should just not bring weezing when I'm using it

molten oasis
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Talonflame still has 126 base speed

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Could also run misty terrain geezing

zinc totem
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has anyone had a dream that they build pokemon team and when you build it, it actually is banger?

molten oasis
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No

zinc totem
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okay i guess im only one and i've played too much pokemon

polar canyon
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Gliscor @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Veil
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 4 Def / 140 SpD / 108 Spe
Careful Nature

  • Tailwind
  • Struggle Bug
  • Taunt
  • High Horsepower
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Or something

solid frigate
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what the he-

molten oasis
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What’s with the gliscor today

polar canyon
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An eviolite gligar might unironically be better in that context actually since it's not using poison heal

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Because with poison heal if weezing switches in it just starts taking damage

molten oasis
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What’s the point of it?

polar canyon
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Tailwind struggle bug taunt

polar canyon
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Disruption

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Guess it doesn't bring a lot to the table

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In practice it would probably tailwind and start clicking struggle bug for the rest of the game

molten oasis
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Why not idk snarl hydreigon or smth

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Why are we all on gliscor I don’t get it lol

foggy lodge
solid frigate
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i think i just ruined a KFC

zinc totem
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i think i should build it in cart now Hmmge

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im almost 1400 elo KEKWDISCO

polar canyon
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Tailwind snarl draco protect?

solid frigate
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i think i cooked someone's KFC and Burnt it

foggy lodge
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what

polar canyon
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Figuratively or literally

solid frigate
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i just cooked a Blaziken

polar canyon
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Wonder if eject pack hydreigon could do something

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Not too afraid of incineroar anymore

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Still very common but not 50% usage common

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Is zero to hero affected by neutralizing gas?

solid frigate
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nope

tiny karmaBOT
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Ability: Zero to Hero

If this Pokemon is a Palafin in Zero Form, switching out has it change to Hero Form.

polar canyon
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I could probably use paladin

tiny karmaBOT
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Ability: Neutralizing Gas

While this Pokemon is active, Abilities have no effect. This Ability activates before hazards and other Abilities take effect. Does not affect the As One, Battle Bond, Comatose, Disguise, Gulp Missile, Ice Face, Multitype, Neutralizing Gas, Power Construct, RKS System, Schooling, Shields Down, Stance Change, Tera Shift, Zen Mode, or Zero to Hero Abilities.

polar canyon
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Bulbapedia was out of date

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That or I can't read

solid frigate
zinc totem
# tiny karma

i kinda laughed one battle i did with new team, dude electroweb with hisui electrode tera ghost with it and did epxlosion with wheezing then RQ KEKWDISCO

polar canyon
polar canyon
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Bro saw team rocket do that in fire red and thought it looked like a good idea

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The 90 attack non stab explosion

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Like even if the point is killing your own weezing memento would've had a more impactful effect

zinc totem
zinc totem
polar canyon
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Thanks @zinc totem

gentle cragBOT
polar canyon
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If anyone has any thoughts lmk

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I'll only finish and test it later

torn parrot
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I think sitrus is better on weezing

zinc totem
chrome knot
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pain split

zinc totem
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you're specs not metal coat

torn parrot
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I have a headache

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By the way

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Fans animate cgi sonic 100 times better than sega

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But sonic prime has god tier animation

torn parrot
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I kinda wanna play slaking

craggy dagger
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without the weezing?

torn parrot
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If anyone says slaking they automatically are also talking about weezing

bold geode
kind sleet
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do you guys recommend elektross for my water type

chrome knot
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for what

kind sleet
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pvp team

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it does have no weaknesses

chrome knot
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what format

kind sleet
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ranked doubles

chrome knot
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no its awful

kind sleet
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also is this a good star for my team (same format)

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kommo o ceruludge and grimmsnarl

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kommo o needs the moves fixed a little

torn parrot
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It doesn’t do anything sadly yeah

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It’s an average every day electric type

kind sleet
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does competetive allow paradoxes

chrome knot
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currently no

solid frigate
next stump
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Is Reg G version 2 confirmed to be a 3 month format? Or do we not know the length

chrome knot
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unsure the length

next stump
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oh shit apparently it is included in the reg H announcement

lofty tartan
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I was just gonna say this

next stump
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through april 2025, so 4 months

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idk if i can handle 4 more months of that format man

lofty tartan
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I was making sure I had my facts straight but yeah it's on the official announcement

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It's gonna be a slog.

torn parrot
spiral ridge
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i had a lot of things i wanted to try still left untouched so im excited but 4 months does feel like a whilee

chrome knot
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reg g 2 will be the rising of lunala cm cycle

spiral ridge
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wanted to get aquainted with most or all the restricted just to kinda know whats up for them

spiral ridge
lofty tartan
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I played CM Lunala in Reg G previously xD

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Was fun.

chrome knot
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yeah we all played raging bolt in reg f and then everyone discovered calm mind bolt at the end

spiral ridge
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oh calm mind

chrome knot
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itll be the same as that except lunala time

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goin all in on that answer

spiral ridge
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i used that for a bit as my first team

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i did not understand teh game enough to know when to and not to calm mind

craggy dagger
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i know i’m bringing lunala-

chrome knot
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i wanna but

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itll be that or fairy miraidon party lol

kind sleet
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does anyone wanna multi battle?

chrome knot
kind sleet
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i didnt know tat existed XD

spiral ridge
lofty tartan
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I don't think there's really a ton of innovation left to be had with Reg G. Not expecting anything crazy other than business as usual.

foggy lodge
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True

craggy dagger
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i’ll prolly end up playing lunala, mirai, or some random legendary nobody uses like base necrozma robin_wheeze

foggy lodge
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The meta will pretty much stay the same

lofty tartan
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Really I'm sure most of us can take or leave Reg G at this moment

foggy lodge
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I like Lunala but i will probably play Zacian Miraidon and Koraidon

lofty tartan
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.

foggy lodge
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I change my team every month or something like that

craggy dagger
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reg G feels very
restrictive because it’s one restricted-
so the team is always centered on the legend

foggy lodge
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I hated reg G but i hate reg H more so

lofty tartan
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That's really the crux of a single Restricted format. Your restricted is your "team captain"

balmy glen
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im growing to like both formats a little ig

lofty tartan
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It's really to be expected. In double restricted it's all gonna focus around the two that you choose

foggy lodge
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Well i don't hate reg G anymore i think, its a decent format

lofty tartan
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I don't like or hate Reg G. It's just a "thing"

foggy lodge
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But i hate playing in reg H, i think is funny as a spectator so its okay for me

lofty tartan
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Taking or leaving it is really just looking at the four month length of a repeat format that was sorta okay and waiting to see what happens for Reg I

dense latch
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reg g feels very one dimensional to me

balmy glen
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reg g is

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"dont mess up or your dead"

lofty tartan
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That's really just margin for error, rather than being one dimensional.

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I don't think Reg G is one dimensional - there's a lot of strategies to it, and several team comps

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There's a very very minute margin for error, and the window to be punished is huge.

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And that's mainly attributed to the general power level of things you'll see - make a mistake, eat Astral Barrage RainbowShrug

balmy glen
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ez wide guard

lofty tartan
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That's not even remotely the point lol

balmy glen
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?

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of course its not i just typed ez wide guard

chrome knot
lofty tartan
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The Astral Barrage I put there could have been really any high BP move from any of the good Restricted mons you'll see. xD

balmy glen
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ez wide guard

chrome knot
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i have acquired love ball sneasler i am the winner today

lofty tartan
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It's just noting that if you make mistakes you're more apt to get heavily punished immediately.

chrome knot
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shake hand rn

foggy lodge
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What is its electro drift

chrome knot
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no bc i do not like butter weasel

lofty tartan
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Man I went and specifically nabbed a natural Shiny Alpha Sneasler for all this. My boy has gotten mad use

balmy glen
dense latch
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this very well might be a skill issue but I just find playing reg g annoying due to that insanely small margin of error

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winning doesn't even feel that good - like, congrats, your broken signature move KOd your opponent's team before theirs could

chrome knot
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shiny 0spatk0spe love ball ursaluna

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and a buncha non shiny personality marked other guys :3

dense latch
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apparently hisui sneasler spawns in coronet highlands massive mass outbreaks but it's been 5 resets and i've got nothing ):

chrome knot
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@balmy glen goes hard?

balmy glen
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I have to see the mons

chrome knot
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fungus, incin, p2 in that order

molten oasis
torn parrot
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That’s something

torn parrot
molten oasis
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Cool

lofty tartan
craggy dagger
solid frigate
chrome knot
torn parrot
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Okay what if you have 2 restricted weezing then regigigas

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Then like almost all your mons are disgustingly powerful

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That’s hilarious

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Take my triple restricteds

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First my regigigas then my calyrex shadow and zamazenta

solid frigate
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someone would run Both Weather+Dialga

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and Giratina at that time WAS VIABLE

molten oasis
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Don’t try to eat gold

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That’s stupid

solid frigate
molten oasis
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Does gholdengo look edible, I guess he looks like a cheese stick

solid frigate
torn parrot
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I was forced to watch an entire musical cross over between the flash and supergirl

molten oasis
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That sounds like torture

torn parrot
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Just in case there was story

solid frigate
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idk why you even watch it-

torn parrot
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First three seasons have been bangers

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But the crossovers are slogs

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Curious about the notorious 4th season

solid frigate
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ehhhhh DC is not my cup of Tea anyways

torn parrot
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It’s okay

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I’m watching a dead universe

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Hopefully the dc reset will make it good

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Finally bringing back green lantern after the massive green lantern hiatus because of one failed movie

craggy dagger
molten oasis
craggy dagger
#

too late

molten oasis
#

TOO LATE???

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You ate my team you suck

solid frigate
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lmao

torn parrot
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Gold is edible you can put it on pizza

molten oasis
#

You had, ice, a landshark, gold, a cat, a dolphin, and to finish it off you drank a cup of tea

solid frigate
torn parrot
spiral ridge
molten oasis
spiral ridge
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and heated tea

molten oasis
#

And to finish off a cup of hot tea

spiral ridge
molten oasis
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Lmfao

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Surf and turf with hot tea and a golden snowcone

chrome knot
#

@craggy dagger i want a coffee

solid frigate
#

Idk if thats a Legal Surf and Turf-

spiral ridge
#

Nop

solid frigate
craggy dagger
solid frigate
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pfft

chrome knot
#

make it BEFORE you left

solid frigate
foggy lodge
solid frigate
foggy lodge
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He ended 5-3

craggy dagger
solid frigate
torn parrot
foggy lodge
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I don't know how that happened

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Like even Jamie boyt had a more standard team😭

solid frigate
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That person is basically what Don't Build Pity-

solid frigate
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thats a next level-

molten oasis
torn parrot
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I gotta see the gameplay

chrome knot
craggy dagger
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i spent the last of my brain cells doing a chem lab after failing a physics lab using radians instead of degrees

torn parrot
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Seeing into a world unknown

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Beyond our comprehension

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Or he thinks tentacruel is funni

craggy dagger
craggy dagger
#

wait avalugg-

spiral ridge
#

yup lugg

craggy dagger
#

lugg is fine-
it’s beefy enough to take hits
unless it’s a special move

spiral ridge
#

volca SadMimi

molten oasis
#

Dengo

torn parrot
#

It does kinda suck when all that bulk amounts to nothing

craggy dagger
#

like-
like-

252 Atk Choice Band Tera Water Basculegion Wave Crash vs. 252 HP / 156+ Def Avalugg in Rain: 136-162 (67.3 - 80.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

molten oasis
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Damn

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And then it sees a special attacker and cries

craggy dagger
#

252+ Atk Annihilape Rage Fist vs. 252 HP / 156+ Def Avalugg: 84-100 (41.5 - 49.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

spiral ridge
#

how many stacks on fist?

craggy dagger
#

i set it to 200

spiral ridge
craggy dagger
#

so a beat up

tiny karmaBOT
#
Pokémon No. 713: Avalugg
Type

Ice

Abilities

Own Tempo, Ice Body, Sturdy (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

95/117/184/44/46/28

Total

514

Other Formes

Avalugg-Hisui

craggy dagger
#

eyyyyy
nope

36+ SpA Gholdengo Make It Rain vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Avalugg: 164-194 (81.1 - 96%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

foggy lodge
#

The highest P2 in Lille didn't make it to top 8 😔

foggy lodge
#

It has to be 36 evs Gholdengo to live it😭

spiral ridge
craggy dagger
#

252+ SpA Typhlosion-Hisui Eruption (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 156+ SpD Avalugg: 254-300 (125.7 - 148.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

robin_wheeze

spiral ridge
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😭

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put it in sun gundedenne

foggy lodge
#

oh

dapper crag
#

if anyone has any skill swap recs PLS let me know bc skill swapping is just so funny to me and i’m so mad i can’t have my slaking learn it

foggy lodge
#

That's no boosting damage item Typhlosion

craggy dagger
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hehe-

252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera Fire Beads of Ruin Typhlosion-Hisui Helping Hand Battery boosted Power Spot boosted Eruption (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0- SpD Dry Skin Avalugg in Harsh Sunshine: 5128-6036 (2538.6 - 2988.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

foggy lodge
#

that kills like 30 Avaluggs

spiral ridge
#

thats called extinction

craggy dagger
#

oof

252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera Fire Typhlosion-Hisui Eruption (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252- SpD Assault Vest Avalugg: 360-428 (178.2 - 211.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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wait wait hang on

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still ohkos

252 SpA Choice Specs Typhlosion-Hisui Eruption (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Avalugg: 204-240 (100.9 - 118.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

spiral ridge
#

by .9%

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poor bastard was holding on but just couldnt

craggy dagger
#

note-
that’s a spread eruption

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so reduced bp, on a 252+ spdef AV lugg

spiral ridge
#

someone give this poor lugg a friend guard

craggy dagger
#

16 Atk Life Orb Sharpness Gallade Sacred Sword vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Avalugg: 112-135 (55.4 - 66.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

spiral ridge
#

me getting my lugg to live on 1% by giving it max bulk so that it can do 10% damage back with icicle spear

chrome knot
#

she’ll be back, she’s winning toronto anyways

spiral ridge
#

confident girl GardeSip

chrome knot
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im my own biggest fan celebrating

molten oasis
craggy dagger
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you don’t :3

molten oasis
#

Fair lol

cerulean rose
#

Hey, anyone want to doubles battle? Ranked or OU rules?

cerulean rose
#

Than you

chrome knot
#

@spiral ridge what

spiral ridge
chrome knot
#

huh

craggy dagger
#

does grandpa scotty need his nap?

chrome knot
#

yeah probably

craggy dagger
#

you also need sleep

torn parrot
#

You need gummy worms

craggy dagger
#

what.

spiral ridge
#

i was just mid typing something else so made answer really short 😭

craggy dagger
#

i’m a big fan

chrome knot
#

i love me

spiral ridge
#

thats why i put rowl angry cus me not you >:(

chrome knot
spiral ridge
#

yeah i shoulda gone up like,
10 minutes ago oops

chrome knot
#

i needa take meds but i like bed rn

spiral ridge
#

i gotta fucking shower

torn parrot
#

Smelly

spiral ridge
#

yeah i had PT LarrySigh

molten oasis
#

I wonder if Emma can swallow pills now

chrome knot
#

what

molten oasis
chrome knot
#

that was never an issue

molten oasis
#

Wasn’t there a whole joke about you not being able to take some kind of meds

chrome knot
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the joke was me overdosing

molten oasis
#

I swear it was pills

spiral ridge
#

It was her not having a pill cutter

molten oasis
#

Mm, that’s not what I remember but ok

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IT WAS ABOUT PILLS

spiral ridge
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And taking too many pills. Thus overdosing

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😭

molten oasis
#

Ahhhh, ok now I remember

#

that was still truly hilarious

chrome knot
spiral ridge
#

Shit were you? :(

chrome knot
#

only a couple times

spiral ridge
#

Awe

craggy dagger
#

she couldn’t figure out how to cut tablets

chrome knot
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it didnt WORK

craggy dagger
#

you mean you didn’t have anything to cut it with so you just gave up

spiral ridge
#

And didn’t go out and buy one

chrome knot
#

yeah so it didn’t work

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i tried every possible option to no avail

bold geode
molten oasis
#

Lmao

mighty stump
#

Tattoo day

mighty stump
dull ibex
#

tofu I swapped back to pult balance

mighty stump
#

ok

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How are you doing

dull ibex
#

better

mighty stump
#

Nice

dull ibex
#

I think my win rate can be positive again lmao

#

at some point you should watch me play

molten oasis
mighty stump
#

Unowns

mighty stump
#

Im not gonna comment or shadow though

dull ibex
#

fair

molten oasis
#

That sounds cool

plain drum
zinc totem
#

is there dragon thats somewhat fast and bulky? or is dragapult enough to bring resists to team? i think my team needs dragon type to round it up (its kinda fast oriented team)

zinc totem
#

Garchomp @ Life Orb
Ability: Rough Skin
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Protect
  • Stomping Tantrum
  • Dragon Claw
  • Earthquake

Or

Dragonite @ Assault Vest
Ability: Inner Focus
Level: 50
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 196 HP / 204 Atk / 12 Def / 28 SpD / 68 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Tera Blast
  • Extreme Speed
  • Low Kick
  • Ice Spinner

??

craggy dagger
#

both TohruThumbsUp

zinc totem
#

only one has slot in

molten oasis
#

real

zinc totem
#

so thats why i'¨ve been bondering which dragontype i should add in

molten oasis
#

garchomp imo

jade dust
#

Thoughts in this team?

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I made Deci 1 point faster than Alcremie so she gets to use decorate before they move under trick room

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She has acid armor to make her very tanky since her spc def is already good and I don't need to use decorate more than twice, and she can finish low targets with dazzling gleam

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I was thinking in giving her all evs in def and hp but to be able to deal some damage is nice

zinc totem
#

but otherwise it looks good

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just need fiddle some with teras

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like that indeedee worst enemies are fast taunters (maus and taunt talonflame as example)

jade dust
#

I had psychic seed so she wouldn’t take massive damage from knock off but if they had a lead with spore or sleep power, she would be useless for the rest of the game

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If I switch one more for psychic,what should it be? Heal pulse?

zinc totem
#

cuz indeedee will struggle when get taunted

jade dust
#

Yeah when she gets taunted I’m forced to switch her out

dapper crag
#

any good lilligant moveset recs???

zinc totem
dapper crag
#

yes i’m about to abuse sleep powder sm

zinc totem
#

after you torkoal is just nasty

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if opponent dont have water types/fire types or any resist, defensive tera or weather control its basically nuke

jade dust
#

Taunt with prankster

zinc totem
jade dust
zinc totem
#

why you think psyspam is only team lilli is used KEKWDISCO

zinc totem
#

either opponent is too busy handling expanding force mon and indeedee or they give easy switch

jade dust
#

Don’t they all lead torkoal lilly?

zinc totem
#

not always

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indeedee is normally the lead always for it

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cuz double trickroom or getting terrain up and do things

zinc totem
#

unless they know they're safe from pranksters or priority moves

#

oh also

jade dust
zinc totem
#

after you is like follow me

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i think it goes before prankster moves KEKWDISCO

jade dust
#

No it’s not priority

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It calcs on speed stat

zinc totem
#

The target will move next on the current turn, ignoring priority. After You bypasses accuracy checks to always hit, unless the target is in the semi-invulnerable turn of a move such as Dig or Fly. It fails if the target has already moved on the same turn. After You ignores the effects of Quash.

#

ig

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also this is kinda funny After You no longer fails if the turn order remains the same after using After You.

jade dust
#

It has priority of 0

zinc totem
jade dust
#

Yeah but won’t go before prankster taunt

zinc totem
#

but its supåer funny follow me doesnt anymore make it fail unless you got faster mon

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but regardless psychic terrai keeps them safe so to get prankster through need rillaboom KEKWDISCO

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so you'll lose slot and torkoal gets eruption off anyway

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unless you can stall psychc terrain off

jade dust
#

Not necessarily, if they don’t lead torkoal, it’s way easier to deal with it late game

zinc totem
#

i mean how you gonna deal with after you eruption late game if terrain is up Sip but they normally also do pull trickroom off first

jade dust
#

Well armarougue is frail and not hard to 1 shot with a spread move

zinc totem
#

in tr they kinda built it bulky so

torn parrot
#

season 3 is my favori6te flash season wtf

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its so good

zinc totem
#

i dont like marvel stuff personally

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im more DC

torn parrot
#

arkeknine haha

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the flash is dc

zinc totem
#

oh lmao KEKWDISCO

#

ig they were so bad i forgot they were DC

jade dust
#

Also a flash fire really destroys torkoal. It takes massive damage from a shadow ball from chandelure or a psychic move from enemy armarougue

zinc totem
#

@torn parrot check DM i wonder if that one dragon fits well to team

zinc totem
#

except mirror arma

jade dust
#

Flash fire is pretty good

#

What else are you using on chandelure

zinc totem
#

ig but arma is slower

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so expanding force kills chandelure anyway

jade dust
#

Another big weakness of that team is wide guard. It blocks both eruption and expanding force

zinc totem
#

yeah but for wide guard theres like very few mons like pelipper (which people dont run for some reason atleast never seen others run but me so far), mienshao, gallade which is in psyspam, araquanid and maybe garganacl

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to be fair im surprised people dropped hitmontop cuz mienshao exists

jade dust
#

Aka one of the most busted mons rn

#

Archaludon is pretty broken

jade dust
zinc totem
jade dust
#

It’s very hard to get rid of it

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Unless you have like a +2 boost

zinc totem
#

sneasler., fighting type mons, annihilape

jade dust
#

It has very high def and AV

zinc totem
zinc totem
jade dust
#

Yeah cuz it doesn’t need to invest in def

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Also tera fairy

zinc totem
#

252+ Atk Sneasler Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Archaludon: 180-212 (91.3 - 107.6%) -- 50% chance to OHKO

jade dust
#

That tanks cc

zinc totem
#

also haze is its biggest enemy

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also some run also tera grass on archaludon

jade dust
#

I have trouble fitting in haze in my team so, I use decorate on the bear

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And that ohko

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Even if it teras, it’s enough damage to ohko on a neutral hit

zinc totem
jade dust
#

If I’m gonna use haze it’s Murkrow

zinc totem
#

you also can give clear smog amoongus

jade dust
#

Eh steel is immune to poison

zinc totem
#

true but if you force tera

jade dust
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Unless they used tera already

zinc totem
#

and bear forces tera

jade dust
#

Clear smog amoonguss was how I dealt with Muk evasion teams in reg G

zinc totem
#

i just used heavy slam hoodra

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all RQ i got cuz that just nukes

jade dust
#

But with evasion it misses

zinc totem
#

nope

#

heavy slam ignores evasiveness

#

If the target has used Minimize, Heavy Slam now deals double its regular damage and bypasses accuracy checks to always hit, unless the target is in the semi-invulnerable turn of a move such as Dig or Fly.

jade dust
#

Ah

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I didn’t know that

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Stomp tho arkeknine

zinc totem
#

not many know

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thats why its soi funny see minimize and just heavy slam them

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so zamazenta also indirectly counters them

jade dust
#

Rip behemoth bash

zinc totem
#

i mean it just what it is

jade dust
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Heavy slam can be inconsistent against other heavy enemies

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That’s the downside of it

zinc totem
#

thats why they got body press

jade dust
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I was happy to use amoonguss and see them suffer. Fucking annoying bullshit team

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Evasion is one of the lamest shit they can pull

mighty stump
#

Not anything relevant that avoids BPress

jade dust
#

Its neutral to body press

mighty stump
#

10% difference damage wise while BPress is easily boosted anyways. Not relevant enough to trade the overall BP difference

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Either way youre likely clicking it over 3 turns and with Pao support its a 2HKO either way

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Slam is better

knotty mirage
#

I have question is there possibility for zacian to be meta when double restricted format is up ?

zinc totem
#

i use zacian eitherway so

knotty mirage
#

I mean i really want to use her but man the nerf really hit her hard and cannot hold clear amulet just sucks

knotty mirage
jade dust
#

Now nerf shadow rider and Urshifu

knotty mirage
#

Just want to give her master rank ribbon i really hope it possible when the restricted meta is back

knotty mirage
jade dust
#

Pair Zacian with Defiant ape

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That waythey have to think before intimidate

knotty mirage
#

With shadow rider existence yeah bringing ape might not be the brightest idea

zinc totem
knotty mirage
mighty stump
#

I mean have you not used the NAIC 3rd place team or whatever it placed

knotty mirage
#

I ussualy prefer to makes my own team with my pokemon that i caught myself so yeah never really uses rental team that much

mighty stump
mighty stump
#

Making teams blindly is a pretty inefficient method

zinc totem
#

just to test it out but somehow it works

knotty mirage
zinc totem
mighty stump
zinc totem
#

but as tofu said: review what is popular etc and see how the team works. Thats why using rentals is good to see how stuff goes @knotty mirage

mighty stump
knotty mirage
molten oasis
#

I think it’ll be better when it doesn’t have to solo carry a team

knotty mirage
#

Yeah maybe i'm just going to put all my hopes on caly shadow and zamazenta team i prepared then

molten oasis
#

Which is what I feel like the other restricteds do better

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I believe in zacian

zinc totem
#

Zacian believers react heart to this comment!

mighty stump
#

Dunno why youre prepping for Reg I

molten oasis
#

Torrent does the same thing lol

mighty stump
#

Reg H isnt even over

knotty mirage
#

May as well it will comes to us eventually

mighty stump
#

Yeah but if youre not good at low power format then

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Id argue consistent practice is pretty important

molten oasis
#

You can learn a lot from this reg imo

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Probably the most open format we’ll get

#

This gen

knotty mirage
#

Well i mean i'm not sure if i want to play reg H to begin with how many "creative" BS on close team sheet is

molten oasis
#

Then play bo3 ots

zinc totem
#

as tofu said: consistent practice is important: thats why you can learn a lot from this reg beacuse there no power creep as much as restricted formats

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heck i got into top 100 in cart andf stayed there for a week

knotty mirage
#

I tried it last month and it's horrible experience

zinc totem
#

and i am like one of worst players in the server

molten oasis
knotty mirage
#

I'm playing on cart not showdown

real prairie
#

morning all, miss anything exciting?

molten oasis
#

ah, yea, carts worse lol

knotty mirage
zinc totem
#

if i got top 100 in cart, you also can climb high

molten oasis
#

The worst format is the one we play in

zinc totem
#

reg H is best format Sip

knotty mirage
torn parrot
#

reg H is my home

molten oasis
#

Reg f was the best reg for me

zinc totem
molten oasis
#

Felt like I really knew what I was doing

zinc totem
#

cheese strats definetly are wrench into tires

molten oasis
#

And my mental was ok

knotty mirage
#

And dire claw ruining everything even if i play almost perfectly

torn parrot
molten oasis
#

I’m finding corviknight to be really fun

#

It’s super solid

torn parrot
#

im glad 👍

molten oasis
#

There’s fun in the format if you look for it

zinc totem
molten oasis
#

I prefer bulk up

zinc totem
#

I love seeing corvis

molten oasis
#

+1 bb’s hurt

#

I need to go sleep now

torn parrot
#

same here

#

dunno if ill be abl eto wake up on time anymore

#

gliscor is is good fuck you goodnight

knotty mirage
#

I think i like reg G the best in closed team sheet it easier to tell where team is going by just looking at their restricted

molten oasis
cyan smelt
#

agreed about gliscor

real prairie
#

having a lot of fun with Torterra

random pecan
#

I should play showdown more sadpuddle

cyan smelt
#

nothing worse than a full or half power eruption

real prairie
#

that after you earth power was rude lol straight into the tera fire too 🤣

random pecan
cyan smelt
#

this is why follow me against after you is good

surreal echo
real prairie
#

do you need clear smog and haze?

#

can opt for protect on Amoongus instead

#

or even sludge bomb to allow it to have some offensive pressure

surreal echo
#

Oh true

#

Forgot I had that

real prairie
#

outside of that it looks fine

cyan smelt
#

instead of ghost i could also change gambit's tera to flying to remove weakness to body press, drain punch and cc

#

that also gives gambit an immunity to ground

real prairie
#

good shout

real prairie
mighty stump
#

Why Surf lol

#

Inting your own mons tho

real prairie
#

dont like muddy water misses

#

wide guard or protect on Pelliper protect it from Surf

torn parrot
#

8-3 Gliscor last regional

#

Swords dance toxic orb high horsey dual wingbeat

#

I knew it

real prairie
#

rainbow pledge + dire claw = 100% dire claw cheese 😭

tiny karmaBOT
#
Move: Dire Claw

Has a 50% chance to cause the target to either fall asleep, become poisoned, or become paralyzed.

Type

Poison

Category

Physical

Power

80

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

surreal echo
#

(i think)

#

you were right though

#

i apologize for my ignorance

craggy dagger
#

honestly-
hypercutter gliscor-

bold geode
torn parrot
#

Uwu

craggy dagger
#

not protean-?

torn parrot
#

Most sash meows don’t run protean

Esp the ones with only grass and dark moves

craggy dagger
atomic portal
#

that 1850 is a fake ranking

torn parrot
#

Hahaha

atomic portal
#

bo1 cts? yeah fake skill

chrome knot
#

opening chat to literal aids

molten oasis
#

whats new

atomic portal
#

trueee

bold geode
molten oasis
bold geode
#

Yeah cuz let's be real
It's probably either that or the dolphin
I can't think of shit

molten oasis
#

chomp a9 corv incin feels VERY good tho

bold geode
#

Does the teacup feel shit?

molten oasis
#

no

bold geode
#

Idk how much Sini could do into the Psyspam stuff or I'd try Dark tera

molten oasis
#

we're exploring options

#

we've tried palafin and primarina so far

#

palafin wasn't acomplishing much

bold geode
#

Palafin wasn't dogshit though

crude flame
#

palafin sucks in doubles

lofty tartan
#

Basc has been good for me, personally

craggy dagger
bold geode
craggy dagger
#

have you tried-
the lip fish-

lofty tartan
#

Damn gifs.

bold geode
#

Lip fish?

lofty tartan
#

What's Sini doing for you?

bold geode
#

The healing
Can set TR against the TW stuff
Actually bulky and good switching synergy with Incin
Amoongus can do the things, it's just like setting TR or having reverse button is also nice

lofty tartan
#

Walking home with my kid right now. BRB

chrome knot
#

like rilla & arch in format spell disaster for palafin

bold geode
#

I think it could be figured out and have success again
Just won't ever have the proper amount of time to do so because everyone just runs something else

torn parrot
#

maybe its messing that extra damage

bold geode
#

Nah
I think it's more building around it vs the item actually

torn parrot
#

good point

craggy dagger
#

as long as gambit doesn’t lock in kowtow-
you should be fine?

#

gambit can’t sucker punch cause dazzling

molten oasis
#

currently losing to tr eams

#

tbf it was oranguru

craggy dagger
#

it also gets tr if you wanna reverse it :0

bold geode
#

ClAm actually benefits it too
Like take it vs Mystic for example
ClAm Palafin can tera and OHKO Incin in baby form unless it's like Impish or heavily invested physically, in which case it's a roll that does 85% minimum (basically depending on spread)
Mystic always rolls

torn parrot
#

uwa?
isnt that was the sini for

lofty tartan
#

It's just that Palafin has an opportunity cost that's always attached to it and your opponent has a pulse

craggy dagger
lofty tartan
#

It's not like it's underpowered - 160 attack is severe. But getting it there is a chore

torn parrot
craggy dagger
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wah-?

torn parrot
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i was responding to the losing to trick room stuff that they were struggling with

craggy dagger
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ah-
i see FukingDies

solid frigate
chrome knot
solid frigate
craggy dagger
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my brain is failing me leave me aloneeeeeeeee
CuteCry

molten oasis
lofty tartan
bold geode
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Tbf Oranguru kinda bullshit anyways lol

solid frigate
solid frigate
lofty tartan
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Okay.

bold geode
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For that you'd basically have to reverse TR turn 1 or it's over

molten oasis
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i dont have taunt

lofty tartan
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Like I'm not running Palafin idk wtf you're tagging me for making your case dude

solid frigate
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heh

bold geode
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Like once TR gets up for Oranguru it's over cuz then no matter what it's gonna just be attack + Instruct you're always taking

molten oasis
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monke we can feed into a tr mode with prima

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and corv

bold geode
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Fuck it

molten oasis
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just beat up a team with it

spiral ridge
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Peak in here to see novas brain destroying itself

molten oasis
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sneasler and rain, hm

bold geode
solid frigate
tiny karmaBOT
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Move: Misty Explosion

If the current terrain is Misty Terrain and the user is grounded, this move's power is multiplied by 1.5. The user faints after using this move, even if this move fails for having no target. This move is prevented from executing if any active Pokemon has the Damp Ability.

Type

Fairy

Category

Special

Power

100

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

molten oasis
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i lost a game to multiple low rolls man

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yea that, sucks

spiral ridge
molten oasis
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NINETALES FROZE POG

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and hes tera steel god dammit

spiral ridge
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lol

molten oasis
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garchomp failed to kill a volc at 30% hp by 1%

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this guy has power herb with rain

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genius clearly cuz i lost to it 2 turns later

polar canyon
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man ghold is strong

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Neutral ohko on ape at -1

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Tera make it rain goes hard

atomic portal
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seems like u could perform better

molten oasis
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working on scouting out mu's rn

spiral ridge
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Or just OTS if you’re discovering things that change plans

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Which if it’s for MUs matters even more

molten oasis
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great

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got 3 turn slept both times

spiral ridge
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To not only know what mons you’re facing but what sets

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:((

molten oasis
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im just, gonna take a break, ladder got weird, RNGsus said fuck you, and im tilted

spiral ridge
molten oasis
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the core is totally fine, its the ladder's fun and unique things that i feel like im losing to, and rng, and poor playmaking ofc

craggy dagger
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too much unpredictability even for me this reg