competitive_discussion

[cyan smelt]

maus is a big threat with pop bomb

misplay to not double into pelipper though

[real prairie]

even closed teamsheets you would assume sashed no?

[cyan smelt]

fs

[foggy lodge]

So what is my match up into Archaludon with this? lol https://pokepast.es/90c86436f7ca52f3

[real prairie]

Arch typically doesn't like that but if its self setup stamina with a Tera its not that bothered about all the physical attackers

[torn parrot]

yeah tho

since you have redirection

you have a safe turn to gain an advantage before maus taunts you

and with tera ghost

feel like this team has a really positive archy warchy matchup

[real prairie]

just lost because of a stalwart aura sphere Arch in a rain team lol

[torn parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/falcon-fade-marvel-avengers-end-game-thanos-gif-17254745

well your sneasler is pretty great inot that cus of sash

[real prairie]

my arch survived with 1hp and KO'd it with body press, but meant my 4x defense was a bit pointless rest of the battle with 1hp

[torn parrot]

yayyyy

[chrome knot]

@torn parrot can you go to work for meeeee i wanna stay home and play pokemon :(

[torn parrot]

i gotta head to my college class

😔

[random pecan]

I just got off school

[chrome knot]

stupid classssss

[knotty mirage]

I have question will sleep turn count reset if i switch out my pokemon ?

[craggy dagger]

nope

[knotty mirage]

Ah damn alright good to know didn't believe i have been making mistake when playing match all this time because i heard in older generation it do

[chrome knot]

novaaaaa help me im addicted to playing this gc team

[cyan smelt]

is it a good team

[chrome knot]

it’s definitely A team

its for global challenges 2

[cyan smelt]

nice

[craggy dagger]

too bad

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2225015803-5vbaiz6lyyoe87bm0ew955sc93c3s1opw

Tofu would not like me just murder a Snorlax lmao

[cyan smelt]

that poor innocent snorlax

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2224632626

@mighty stump goin for more content gold with this one ngl

[cyan smelt]

interesting team, i like sucker punch dragapult

[chrome knot]

gc2

[timber falcon]

any idea for a man that strikes fear into dragon type mons?

preferably one thats not weak to ground

[chrome knot]

alolan ninetales

[timber falcon]

thanks

[torn parrot]

That is a true

Dragonite garchomp vs blizzard

https://tenor.com/view/kaf-kafu-kamitsubaki-rim-rime-gif-27228643

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2225064358

God i feel so bad

even its Psyspam i just fucking lock them up-

[dull ibex]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pf99HN0lHo&t=3383s

Liking this variant so far

[solid frigate]

no wonder i saw so many Sinstcha

[dull ibex]

I do think I might get the tailwind pelipper for this team

rn im running bulky cloak

[solid frigate]

fair

[cyan smelt]

damn torrent you completely shut them down

[solid frigate]

Greninja Taunt Worth it

[cyan smelt]

why did that indeedee have no attacking moves

[solid frigate]

idk

not even Dgleam?

[torn parrot]

@molten oasis have you played the criminal yet

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-that-gif-14729957

[torn parrot]

Typhlosion

Nuh uh

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/mortal-kombat-scorpion-get-over-here-mk11-mortal-kombat11-gif-17129778

[dull ibex]

weegeecee

[mighty stump]

Dude these Typhlosion memes are getting out of hand

[solid frigate]

exactly-

[molten oasis]

Maya I’m not playing the game lmao

I said if I played again this reg which idk if I will

[molten oasis]

I think they’re funny

[real prairie]

https://youtu.be/yFoBmioYa40?si=d9dwA8XFG3CEp9DJ

[random pecan]

I have it

[real prairie]

Thought we weren't allowed to talk about it...

[random pecan]

we aren’t allowed to and I’m not going to

[real prairie]

Wasn't aimed at you 😊

[random pecan]

ye, just making sure

[cyan smelt]

this team is actually working decently well

[karmic temple]

When did they add San Antonio onto the regionals list

Wait that’s only like 2 weeks after the reg changes reee

[cyan smelt]

wtf tera flying arch

[bold geode]

Fr

And this is coming from a guy who says old jokes that aren't funny
They are so stale now
They got stale very quick

[knotty mirage]

I don't understand what's with typhlosion anyway

[molten oasis]

idt i saw as many as everyone else, at least to me they haven't gotten stale

[solid frigate]

lets just not talk about it

[knotty mirage]

I mean okay then just kinda curious what with this sudden surge of typhlosion posting

[tiny peak]

What's crazy they are just leaks, not cannon obviously even if there was any "freaky" writers they stopped it and scrapped it, so why are people freaking out

[stark kindle]

We're still not discussing it in the server. So doesn't matter

[tiny peak]

@stark kindle Gotcha

So my teambuilding is going good I have my doubts but going good, I'd post it but it's hard for me to do so with my phone

[chrome knot]

why do you all flock to comp chat to talk about it

[tranquil kraken]

em just ignore :3

talk about ev builds or smth

[chrome knot]

i just find it dumb like why always here

[tranquil kraken]

woohoooooo ohko!!!

[stark kindle]

Ev builds? Baton pass let's gooo

[chrome knot]

im even less likely to do this mine stay private

[tranquil kraken]

METRONOME STRAT

[tranquil kraken]

hacking you and leaking ev spreads

[chrome knot]

gl wit dat

[tranquil kraken]

[chrome knot]

do u have a diancie in game i can borrow

[tranquil kraken]

nope

sry

[chrome knot]

the silly thing is down so i cannot get my own

[tiny peak]

So you guys think we will get mega ray back in legends za?

[chrome knot]

and the gc is soon ._.

[tranquil kraken]

where u playin?

[chrome knot]

and my smeargle needs diamond storm lmfao

[tranquil kraken]

#1211836048611614740 might be better suited

but yes probably if there’s megas in the game

[chrome knot]

global challenges

[tranquil kraken]

o

sorry im noob

[chrome knot]

ill be in Toronto in december tho !

[tranquil kraken]

[torn parrot]

THATS IT

THATS IT I DID IT

I FUCKING DID IT FINALLY

ME HAPPY

wait brb i need to take screenshots

[chrome knot]

pfft

[torn parrot]

I FINALLY GOT THIS MOTHER FUCKIN FURRET TO 1800

https://tenor.com/view/angry-anime-neko-funny-funny-anime-gif-16420737

im so god damn happy right now
https://pokepast.es/3ebf043d1a798642

[cyan smelt]

i'm just facing horrible gimmick teams in lower ladder

[dull ibex]

torrent do you have nso premium

[solid frigate]

the fact Wolfey actually used a No Guard Sheer Cold Strat in a funni Tournament

[solid frigate]

no why?

[solid frigate]

tell me about it

[dull ibex]

Just got ethernet want to see if it will make my wifi games less shit

[tranquil kraken]

i like wolfey

i have no idea what he’s yapping about

but i like it

[solid frigate]

he actually made a Team Featuring Sheer Cold Lapras

[torn parrot]

the amount of joy i feel is unreal

[solid frigate]

OHKO Shit here we goooo

[tranquil kraken]

[dull ibex]

WITH PERISH SONG AS A BACK UP

[solid frigate]

LETS GOOOOOO

[dull ibex]

its a nuts team

[tranquil kraken]

hahahha thats evil

[dull ibex]

I wanna play mario party 3 with someone lmao preferrably far away from me

[solid frigate]

i think i can at least show the Team Core

Lapras,No Guard Golurk,Bronzong,Incineroar as base Comp for the funni

[chrome knot]

youd hate to see me comin

[solid frigate]

or just Nova and you in General since you both like Gimmicky stuff

[chrome knot]

i dont

im just prepping for the gc and my alt is low ladder

i play normal teams

[rare pumice]

eject button tinkaton kind of doing nicely for me right now

[solid frigate]

good luck! I'm skipping this GC cuz i need to see some Reg G shit

[chrome knot]

ty im just trying to qualify for worlds so

[solid frigate]

I might not qualify for Worlds unless i become godlike for some reason

Hope Miraidon can carry me

[rare pumice]

i'm wondering if clear amulet intimidate arcanine could be a good lead right now

hisuian specifically

[chrome knot]

why not just choice band

[umbral olive]

Choice band with rock head Ability

[chrome knot]

no still intimidate

[dull ibex]

weegeece?

[rare pumice]

i like clear amulet just to prevent intimidate and so i don't get locked into one move incase something like gholdengo comes out vs something like incineroar

[chrome knot]

wha

[random pecan]

just built the Meloetta

[chrome knot]

band @ -1 is neutral damage, and you blow shit up if no intimidate

you also can just position better for it to be insanely useful anyways

[random pecan]

any idea, which support I can use for Meloetta? @chrome knot

[umbral olive]

Meloetta isn't that good

[random pecan]

never said

[umbral olive]

I guess it'd be good on an expanding force double battle team

[chrome knot]

it doesnt learn expanding force

[umbral olive]

Oh damn. Then i don't know.

[rare pumice]

if i'm doing choice band intimidate would rock slide be a better idea than head smash

[chrome knot]

she prob wouldn’t mind redirection? idk what the format is of “battling vs friends” lol

[umbral olive]

Only use head smash if your running rock head ability.

[chrome knot]

this so incorrect

[umbral olive]

Rock head prevents recoil damage

[chrome knot]

and…?

[real prairie]

G fing G

[rare pumice]

i think i would prefer rock slide either way just for the fast flinch chance

[random pecan]

we like to limit to 1-2 legendaries

[real prairie]

And I'm here stuck at 1300 trying to get Ludicolo to work 🤣

[chrome knot]

would you rather cripple their phys attackersor do nothing disruptive, live the same amount of turns idgi

[chrome knot]

usually you just run
Flare Blitz
Rock Slide
Espeed
Head smash

[torn parrot]

FFFFURRET FURRET FURRET FFFURRRETTTT

[chrome knot]

tera normal banded

[torn parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokémon-pokemon-concierge-netflix-stop-motion-gif-5585558241909479883

[rare pumice]

could wild charge replace head smash i feel like my team needs more checks against water types

[umbral olive]

Yea

I usually always have wild charge on my Arcanine

[chrome knot]

yeah

[spiral ridge]

Ayyy amazing nice

[rare pumice]

the team i'm using is almost entirely gen 9 pokemon

[solid frigate]

JUST NO-

[solid frigate]

oml i don't want to hear limiting to 1-2 Legendaries BS

No offense

[umbral olive]

I agree

[dense latch]

CONGRATS!! furret ftw

[torn parrot]

@spiral ridge @dense latch thank you!!

[gentle crag]

mayahoppins has given 1 Gen Rep to scottyboi7422, eriksp

[rare pumice]

is kantonian arcanine a good support pokemon?

[solid frigate]

outclassed by Incin

[random pecan]

its against my brother who only knows using legendaries
I’m trying to teach him basic pvp

[umbral olive]

I mean, It can be. It has access to helping hand.

[solid frigate]

just Use Incin but still

[solid frigate]

ok at least its a good reason

the other server i am in restricting to only use 1 Restricted Legendary/Mythicals/Sub Legendary/Ultra Beasts/Paradox Pokemon

And fucked up the fundementals of Terastalisation

[chrome knot]

do mythicals count?

[random pecan]

yep

[chrome knot]

as a legendary

aur naur

[random pecan]

Alyz and I will Meloetta fight tomorrow

Meloetta and a team

[solid frigate]

god i fucking hate that ruleset it makes me cringe-

[random pecan]

If I wanna go with a restricted, its calm mind Lunala

[solid frigate]

solid choice i'd say

[rare pumice]

is kyogre still the go to restricted pokemon

[solid frigate]

top 5 i'd say

[random pecan]

100% wr with it cuz Lunala wasn’t popular

[solid frigate]

depending on who you ask

[rare pumice]

the only time i've ever used a restricted pokemon format was with giratina but i think i was using restricted pokemon wrong back then since i was just using it defensively

[solid frigate]

its CSR,CIR,Miraidon,Zamazenta and then the Tossup between Kyogre,Terapagos and Koraidon

[random pecan]

Calyrex both forms

[umbral olive]

No!

[rare pumice]

zamazenta??

[solid frigate]

i mean thats Gen 8 for you

[solid frigate]

Body

Fucking

Press

[random pecan]

Zamazenta finally got body press

[umbral olive]

I can't even enjoy a battle in Sword Sheild because everyone has a fucking calyrex on their team

[cyan smelt]

i'm sick of these horrible lower ladder teams

[solid frigate]

skill issue

[random pecan]

fight me, mine is worse

[rare pumice]

is urshifu still a problem for people or has that sort of been sorted out

[random pecan]

[umbral olive]

Urshifu is easy

[random pecan]

not even legal now

[rare pumice]

even in restricted formats??

[solid frigate]

Urshifu is not really a problem

I think its still fun to use it

And its already have a decent counter

[molten oasis]

i like urshifu

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/raging-bolt-pokemon-paradox-raikou-vgc-gif-17137987366850124151

[random pecan]

but many have atleast 2 counters to deal with it

[solid frigate]

we love shifu

[random pecan]

They Tera Water everything or one shot urshifu

[rare pumice]

i've heard a lot of good things about raging bolt but i stopped playing competitive back when hisuian forms became legal so i'm doing some catchup here

[random pecan]

I personally like Urshifu too

[solid frigate]

There are some Tera Grass,Tera Stellar

Tera Grass cuz Amogus

[random pecan]

true

[solid frigate]

Tera Stellar for Burst Damage

[random pecan]

or even safety goggles tera grass

[rare pumice]

how much is the boost from tera steller compared to a regular tera

[solid frigate]

just run Tera Water Safety Goggles at this point

[solid frigate]

1.2

STAB Tera is 2
Regular Tera STAB is 1.5

if i can recall

[rare pumice]

i think i'd prefer sticking with regular teras then

[solid frigate]

Terapagos:fuck you

[dense latch]

it’s only worth it on a few mons

tends not to be their best option anyways

[rare pumice]

isn't the boost from tera steller only once per type too

[solid frigate]

Stellar Tera is more for Hyper Offense Mons+Terapagos

and as a Terapagos Main in Reg G before

I like

[random pecan]

do you think Spiritomb can wall Meloetta?

[timber falcon]

is this team popular?

like should i expect to see something like this often

[dense latch]

not that popular

ttar and sand in general have kinda fallen off

[timber falcon]

what about prim, salamance and mag?

[solid frigate]

but should always know how the team works and how to counter,especially in this format

[rare pumice]

i didn't know there were quash murkrow users

[solid frigate]

ah yes i can bring two Primarina

[molten oasis]

prim's popular

[dense latch]

but it’s a semi common sand composition

[molten oasis]

mence isnt as much

[solid frigate]

Magmar is solid

[dense latch]

magmar has spiked in usage since dortmund

[timber falcon]

ok so prim i should learn to deal with

and mag now

[dense latch]

top 3 redirectors rn imo

[solid frigate]

nah its always been good

[rare pumice]

i get the impression that a lot of pokemon are gonna suddenly be really helpless once tera is gone

[timber falcon]

clef balance still exist?

[solid frigate]

more like p2 Sneasler balance

[solid frigate]

just deal with it

[knotty mirage]

Gonna be really hard to do for closed team sheet

[timber falcon]

oh yeah i remember seeing one of these

[dense latch]

yeah that just won a regional

so you should def be aware of it

[solid frigate]

i don't think they will remove it cuz its positive change for the VGC community

[dense latch]

i don’t think anyone would like going back to cts

but tpci doesn’t care that much about their players

[solid frigate]

unless if they are CTS Warriors

[rare pumice]

i am slowly formulating a team that i am happy with muahaha

[knotty mirage]

I only play exclusively on in game ladder so yeah

That's probably the reason i really despise this reg and really miss urshifu

[rare pumice]

unburden boost is lost if you switch out right

[knotty mirage]

Yeah it will only active if your mon consume an item

[rare pumice]

i'm coming across a lot of choice scarf gholdengo and am struggling to deal with them i think

i think i just found my answer

[timber falcon]

any popular tr mons out there

like stuff used other than farig in non hard tr teams

[torn parrot]

honetsly

its pretty flexible this reg

i feel

[dense latch]

p2 ursa usually involves softer tr

[random pecan]

fite me and urshifu you shall use

[rare pumice]

i've seen trick room dusclops, polchageist, porygon2

[random pecan]

I got shiny Pachirisu

should I use it in my Meloetta team?

[foggy lodge]

Indeedee

[timber falcon]

are there walls that people are using this meta too?

[foggy lodge]

Walls?

[solid frigate]

Haze:

[timber falcon]

yk mons that get in the way, mons u can swap in to comfortably take damage

[cyan smelt]

wtf ice beam prima

[timber falcon]

i guess a bulky mon

[solid frigate]

yeah see some couple of them

[foggy lodge]

Corviknight

Corviknight walls a lot of things lol

It walls both Ursalunas

[timber falcon]

but this meta is it useful

[solid frigate]

damn OTOT is really under a rock the whole tim-

[timber falcon]

i came back like last week after 2 months gone lol

didnt think meta would hange that much

[rare pumice]

corvinkight or skarmory are both always useful i think

[foggy lodge]

Ehhh it haven't change too much

[rare pumice]

or i guess bronzong might have some uses

[solid frigate]

its a Metagame,it changes anytime after the tournament(Not much has Changed

[foggy lodge]

You could check the top cut teams from Louisville and Dortmund if you want to see the changes in the meta

[timber falcon]

shouldve seen the look on my face when scarf A9 and garchomp were thrown at me

[solid frigate]

a wall that can do consistent Damage*

[foggy lodge]

wtf

I've seen specs Ninetales with banded Chomp

[timber falcon]

its so annoying

[foggy lodge]

That team won Joinvile

[timber falcon]

ofc

[foggy lodge]

And was actually the original team, Paul Chua's team that got second at Baltimore is a variant from the specs A9 and Banded Chomp

So is like the Alolan Exeguttor and Kanto Exeguttor thing is funny

[solid frigate]

Paul Chua's team is the best

[foggy lodge]

A9 Chomp is the best team rn imo

[solid frigate]

i just fucking decimated a Psyspam Alolan Exeggcuttor With Gren

[foggy lodge]

Exeguttor has the same SpA as Armarouge btw

[rare pumice]

i'm wondering if sap sipper assault vest hisuian goodra might have some uses for me

[foggy lodge]

0 damage Goodra tbh

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2225064358?p2

the funni Normal Taunt Greninja

[cyan smelt]

tera ice muk wtf

[foggy lodge]

Showdown updated?

[solid frigate]

welcome to low ladder Bullshit

[foggy lodge]

Because i thought Indeedee didn't have its 3D model in showdown

[rare pumice]

do you think umbreon might be a good check for gholdengo? according to the site i'm using make it rain would only do like 25 percent damage before drops

[solid frigate]

it does

[solid frigate]

just use Kingambit

resist Both STABs+Huge Damage

[rare pumice]

yeah i'm just trying to think of a back up i guess

[chrome knot]

?

[torn parrot]

imagine

they add missing pngs

and more music

[rare pumice]

what is that one website everybody ues to share pokemon team data

[torn parrot]

share data?

usage stats?

munchstats is the best
porydex is for previous season info

[rare pumice]

no i mean like i think there's a website where you just type in the pokemon, their moves/held item/ability, and then just share the link to have people judge the team

[cyan smelt]

i'm gonna switch from prim back to rotom

are you fucking kidding me, liquidation garchomp

time to scrap this team

[rare pumice]

is sweet veil the only ability that protects allies from sleep

[torn parrot]

nah

[rare pumice]

pokepaste was the website i was thinking of

https://pokepast.es/c8b95d3f1561bd91 this is my current team, i'm really struggling for a permanent 6th member as well as improvements

i'm thinking a flying type might be good though

[timber falcon]

after some research i think ive come up with a sleection of mons with the synergy and personal preference to do the job

[torn parrot]

oh

i see

[cyan smelt]

btw how is eviolite scyther?

[rare pumice]

i'm gonna try max hp + speed covert cloak talonflame with bulk up, brave bird, flare blitz, and roost

[next stump]

having 0 protect in double battles is usually very tough to play

also very little if any speed control

[rare pumice]

what exactly does speed control mean, i've heard for years but don't really get it

[next stump]

tailwind, trick room, icy wind, etc.

anything to make your team move first generally

[rare pumice]

i have something that prevents trick room if that counts

tailwind on talonflame might be good then

i'm thinking tailwind, u-turn, maybe overheat and roost, and flame body

dang talonflame was a good choice apparently

[craggy dagger]

gale wings is good

plus talon is super fast

[random pecan]

chloro counts towards speed control too? or am I just misunderstanding it?

[cyan smelt]

woah kenni in vgc

[random pecan]

I’m not even a beginner
I’m much lower lol

[cyan smelt]

it's ok to be new

[random pecan]

and I really try to force my fav pokemons into my teams lol

[rare pumice]

i'm using flame body talonflame

[molten oasis]

You’re STILL on golurk????

What does it even do in the meta dude?

[real prairie]

does storm drain stop absorb buld activating?

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/d2e4560d199f83c0

stronk ground type

[molten oasis]

GARCHOMP EXISTS

[timber falcon]

honestly though, it wasnt the best option on my list. The pick is more of a preference one

[timber falcon]

he was at the top

[molten oasis]

This team hurts my head

Bruh use the meta

[timber falcon]

thats the point

[molten oasis]

What is so bad about meta

[timber falcon]

i played around with A9 garchomp though

so i have used a meta team, but it was to mostly stake out the meta

[molten oasis]

My question still stands

[timber falcon]

theres nothing bad about meta

[molten oasis]

So why are you so against it

[timber falcon]

when i said i dont like meta i meant i dont like playing AGAINST it

purely cause its good

[craggy dagger]

hm?

oh we trying to use dynamic punch golurk or smth?

[timber falcon]

indeed

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 623: Golurk

Types

Ground/Ghost

Abilities

Iron Fist, Klutz, No Guard (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

89/124/80/55/80/55

Total

483

Sableye version 4.28.1

[craggy dagger]

ehhhhh….

[molten oasis]

Hear me out use wolfeys team

[timber falcon]

one dissapointing factor ive got from it is the defence though

[craggy dagger]

it’s slow but like
it’s stats are very underwhelming

[molten oasis]

Or pick something better

[timber falcon]

he has one?

[molten oasis]

yes

[craggy dagger]

skill swap i believe

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 745: Lycanroc-Midnight

Type

Rock

Abilities

Keen Eye, Vital Spirit, No Guard (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

85/115/75/55/75/82

Total

487

Base Species

Lycanroc

Sableye version 4.28.1

[timber falcon]

interesting

[craggy dagger]

lycanroc-
hm…

[zinc totem]

i find it funny that tera allows pokemon that normally wouldnt be able 1v2, can 1v2

[molten oasis]

Plz don’t use golurk dude

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 745: Lycanroc-Dusk

Type

Rock

Abilities

Tough Claws

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

75/117/65/55/65/110

Total

487

Base Species

Lycanroc

Sableye version 4.28.1

[timber falcon]

my last proper team i made myself was hard rain so i just wanted to do something gimmicky this time, thats all

[molten oasis]

It’s not a good Mon

[timber falcon]

im just messing around with it

[zinc totem]

wolfey disagrees

[molten oasis]

ok ig, if you’re not playing to improve ig it doesn’t matter

[molten oasis]

I think wolfey was aware of how weird of a team that was

[zinc totem]

but wolfey is known not use bad mons anymore

his own words

[molten oasis]

He just took Yanmega to a regional

Idt he’s taking this regulation seriously

[zinc totem]

yeah and he said in one of his videos that he will never again use bad mons

after he tried that one team

hippowdon team was it

[random pecan]

what tera should Milotic have?

Fire maybe?

[zinc totem]

which type of milotic you go?

[random pecan]

bulky

[zinc totem]

i use fairy as i use drain kiss on milo

[molten oasis]

Alright well everyone enjoy stuff ig

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-22295199

[random pecan]

Icy wind, scald, recover protect with flame orb lol

[zinc totem]

then definetly not fire

flame orb wil be useless

[random pecan]

[dull haven]

[random pecan]

poison maybe?

[random pecan]

[dull haven]

[random pecan]

I’m building a team focused on annoying the enemy and Meloetta

[real prairie]

im trying eviolite piloswine

[foggy lodge]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reghbo3-2225267589

[cyan smelt]

hisuian decidueye and gambit seem to have good synergy

but i'm not sure about geezing

[foggy lodge]

i actually like specs A9 https://pokepast.es/f25fc7aaa0503b9f

[chrome knot]

yanmega was a goood meta call tho?

[cyan smelt]

idt you can say that wolfe isn't taking it seriously

[chrome knot]

it also wasnt just him who brought the team

[real prairie]

no idea how i won that https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2225282014

[foggy lodge]

Share it as a link

I can't see what it says lol

Nvm i can

But for the next time share it as a link, it helps to not be a wall in the chat

[tiny peak]

Ok not sure how to do that on my phone

[torn parrot]

Copy the link of the website

[tiny peak]

https://pokepast.es/175e25a21e10413c

Ok figured it out

Anyways just finishing up decisions on it wanted to see what people had to say before I finalize and start ev training and what not

[foggy lodge]

Why night slash Sneasler?

[tiny peak]

Cover ghost kingambit and psychic types

[chrome knot]

throat chop do more damage

[foggy lodge]

Throat chop has more BP

[tiny peak]

Night slash has higher crit chance tho

[foggy lodge]

12% over damage + blocking sound moves

[chrome knot]

throat chop higher consistency

[foggy lodge]

lol

[tiny peak]

What sound moves is it blocking besides primarina?

I figure you would want to hit prim with dire claw

[chrome knot]

primarina is a pretty big one

[foggy lodge]

Parting shot and hyper voice from Primarina and Ursaluna

[tiny peak]

Ok I see

I'm worried about using the stellar type but having 2 dark teras feels weird

[torn parrot]

Also

[chrome knot]

team I brought to a REGIONAL had 2 tera dragons & 2 tera waters

[torn parrot]

You can block parting shot

In niche situations

[tiny peak]

Ah cool

[torn parrot]

Parting shot is a sound move

Also you stop kommo

[tiny peak]

So dark tera for sneasler? I imagine I won't be using murkrows tera

[foggy lodge]

Use poison touch on Sneasler

[real prairie]

i have 3 tera ghost lol

[tiny peak]

@foggy lodge why? I like the speed boost from unburden

[foggy lodge]

i don't get what you get from a speed boost when you have 1 HP

You lose to any form of priority

[torn parrot]

Here’s the thing about unburden sash

If you get chipped then the strategy is dead

[foggy lodge]

Poison touch is 30% chance of poison that can also combo with dire claw's chance of doing anything

[torn parrot]

The sash has to literally break

You have to get one shot or else no unburden

And then your at 1 hp yeah

[tiny peak]

Ah ok

Do the moves look fine otherwise?

I'm worried about trick room or amoongus with mental herb then my prankster taunt does nothing

[foggy lodge]

Use earthquake chomp

[tiny peak]

@foggy lodge I thought about that but if I lead arcanine with chomp that's not good

[foggy lodge]

Then don't click earthquake

you have rock coverage with Harc and 2 protect and a Murkrow, is pretty free in the right spots

I don't think rock slide is necessary on Chomp

[tiny peak]

I did that since his tera is ground and I could cover ice types if he needed to

[foggy lodge]

which ice types tho

I think the only relevant ice type is A9

[tiny peak]

Probably that was what I was thinking of was a9

How's the evs looking

[torn parrot]

There is one thing

I recommend going earthquake over rock slide

Your already tera ground and next to a flying type

Could be turbo potential

[tiny peak]

Ok that sounds good, that frees up a move on him what should I use?

Also should I just use taunt on murkrow or sneasler

Worried about the mental herbs and psychic terrain blocking priorities

[torn parrot]

Earthquake stomping tantrum and dragon claw protect is plenty good I feel

[tiny peak]

Ah so both ground moves to have another option to click

My last questions is about the evs, are they good? And the mental herb pyshic terrain thing, just wanna make sure I'm covered

Also thanks to everyone to helping me finalize this team I'm really excited for it

@torn parrot ?

[torn parrot]

Yeah

The evs look fine

If you want changes can add during

[real prairie]

basically useless into a sandteam where you would probably want the close combats too

[tiny peak]

@torn parrot thanks, any advice on mental herb/psychic terrain?

[gentle crag]

ryukage118 has given 1 Gen Rep to mayahoppins

[real prairie]

my favourite unburden set is white herb

any intimidates gives you unburden

close combat gives you unburden

[torn parrot]

Yeah it’s pretty bad way to activate unburden

Worse than just having any other ability

[torn parrot]

Mental herb on what?

[tiny peak]

@torn parrot like amoongus if I taunt it with murkrow, and dealing with psychic terrain stopping prankster

[foggy lodge]

i doubt you'd pick Murkrow in that match up

Atleast against Psyspam

mental herb amoonguss you just have to deal with it

[real prairie]

only benefit to murkrow in psyspam is its immune and could potentially set up TW against fast spam but its really not usually the lead

[tiny peak]

@foggy lodge ah ok I see

Sorry I'm full of questions just very new to competitive and vgc especially

[torn parrot]

Well I guess when it comes to amoongus
If I’m trying to build a strong team I have a rule of thumb to have at least 2 pokemon immune to sleep/powder moves

That could be in the form of a grass type, tera grass or safety goggles or an ability

[tiny peak]

@torn parrot yeah I'm lacking in that area, I could do tera grass harcanine maybe?

[real prairie]

whats a good tera for a thick-fat mon, Grass?

[torn parrot]

Sure that could work great

👍

[tiny peak]

@torn parrot nice now to choose what the 4th move should be or should I keep tera blast?

[torn parrot]

Tera blast could work just fine I think

Not a lot of better options for choice band harc

[tiny peak]

@torn parrot cool, I appreciate your guys help

[torn parrot]

No worries fam

[real prairie]

haze or curse?

[tiny peak]

I suck at decision making and anxiety so team building is hard lol

[real prairie]

bare in mind i have amoongus so could clear smog as well if i wanted

[tiny peak]

@real prairie I dunno much about curse but I like haze

[torn parrot]

Haze for sure

[foggy lodge]

I follow Keanu's tips for that

like don't overthink that much in the teambuilder

Just build something that looks good, play some relevant games and then come back to the teambuilder and make the changes you feel necessary

[real prairie]

haze it is

[torn parrot]

How much speed does piloswine have

[tiny peak]

Gotcha yeah I miss using the team-builder, my problem is doing it on the phone, cause I don't have a laptop right now

[torn parrot]

Ah 50

So kingambit speed tie

[real prairie]

70 with 31 IVs

49 with 0 IVs and Brave nature

[tiny peak]

I'm not looking forward to shiny breeding for my 0 speed amoongus lol gotta be a guy too cause I'm naming him Funguy

[foggy lodge]

Jolly Kingambit is good trust me

[real prairie]

think Maya was thinking does Pilo work as a Gambit counter in TR

[torn parrot]

I meant base speed

[real prairie]

so its a speed tie outside of TR with no investment?

[torn parrot]

I was basically wondering if you can haze before it hits you in the face

They both have 50 speed

So it’s whoever has more investment

Or less

Im sure you’ll be fine

[cyan smelt]

gliscor is good

[dapper crag]

Relic Song, Close Combat, Knock Off and U-Turn/Ice Punch Meloetta with 252 Attack and Speed EVS. Opinions? Kinda want to bring out her special form aswell

[torn parrot]

I AGREE

it destroys sneasler

And is immune to dire claw luck

[cyan smelt]

and with redirect it is free to set up SD

[real prairie]

i was thinking Gliscor but wanted wondered if having an ice type would be good vs Dragons in the format

im a little tempted to go back to Beartic since it gets swift swim fits quite nicely in my rain team

basically bulky chip or fast sweeper

[cyan smelt]

I'm thinking I might go tera stellar on gliscor

[torn parrot]

I think guy kinda needs a defensive tera

Stellar is kinda for super offensive mons

Ussually focus sash

IM SO

SOOOO HYPED

To skip global challenge

[cyan smelt]

Currently I have tera flying on him

[torn parrot]

I recommend water

Or steel

[real prairie]

Tera Water resists its ony 2 weaknesses

Ice and Water

[molten oasis]

Why is it a good meta call?

[real prairie]

https://pokemondb.net/type

https://pokemondb.net/type/dual

[chrome knot]

staggering tailwind bc you'll be passively the fastest

flying/bug is pretty annoying to deal with

[molten oasis]

Ig there aren’t any rock types

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-ice-baby-vanilla-ice-rap-musiv-video-gif-11959717673329722264

[molten oasis]

And that make sense with speed boost

Yotam also brought it up I believe

[cyan smelt]

What moves does it run besides tw

[molten oasis]

Well, fun ig

[craggy dagger]

compound eyes screech though-

or compound eyes hurricane ig?

[tiny karma]

Move: Screech

Lowers the target's Defense by 2 stages.

Type

Normal

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

85

PP (max)

40 (64)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Authentic

Bypasses substitute.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Reflectable

Affected by Magic Coat and Magic Bounce.

Sound

Does not affect Soundproof.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[molten oasis]

That can miss???

[craggy dagger]

yeah

[molten oasis]

And fake tears doesn’t lmao

[craggy dagger]

i know the pain of missing screech too well

[molten oasis]

I’m getting on some train thing now

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-22295199

[tiny karma]

Yanmega's moveset:

Physical Moves

Aerial Ace, Bug Bite, Crunch, Double-Edge, Dual Wingbeat, Facade, Feint, Feint Attack, Frustration, Giga Impact, Headbutt, Leech Life, Lunge, Natural Gift, Night Slash, Pounce, Pursuit, Quick Attack, Return, Reversal, Secret Power, Skitter Smack, Slash, Steel Wing, Tackle, Take Down, Thief, U-turn, Wing Attack

Special Moves

Air Cutter, Air Slash, Ancient Power, Bug Buzz, Dream Eater, Giga Drain, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Mud-Slap, Ominous Wind, Psychic, Psychic Noise, Round, Shadow Ball, Signal Beam, Silver Wind, Snore, Solar Beam, Sonic Boom, Struggle Bug, Swift, Tera Blast, Uproar

Status Moves

Attract, Captivate, Confide, Curse, Defog, Detect, Double Team, Endure, Flash, Foresight, Hypnosis, Laser Focus, Mimic, Protect, Psych Up, Rest, Roost, Scary Face, Screech, Sleep Talk, String Shot, Substitute, Sunny Day, Supersonic, Swagger, Swords Dance, Tailwind, Toxic, Whirlwind

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Yanmega.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[craggy dagger]

have a safe trip

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 469: Yanmega

Types

Bug/Flying

Abilities

Speed Boost, Tinted Lens, Frisk (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

86/76/86/116/56/95

Total

515

Sableye version 4.28.1

[molten oasis]

It’s a lap around the mountain I think lol

[rare pumice]

if i'm running a tailwind talonflame then is choice scarf unnecesary for my meowscarada or should i hold onto it for opposing tailwinders/scarfs

[torn parrot]

Probably unnecessary unless you wanna go turbo speed

But at that point it’s like for what reason

Meow can have sucker punch

And it’s fast af

[rare pumice]

it's just that i can't seem to find a good fourth attack for meowscarada so i'm thinking remove the scarf and use something more niche and then run protect for the final move to make things a bit more interesting

[torn parrot]

You could go the good ol

Flower trick sucker punch knock off protect

Or

Triple axel maybe

[rare pumice]

idk triple axel is kind if important for me and i already have a sucker punch user

[torn parrot]

Sure I can see that

Triple axel very cool

[rare pumice]

garchomp and dragonite really dislike it indeed

if meowscarada got fake out i think it would honestly be the perfect pokemon for me

[atomic mural]

https://pokepast.es/e39e8c8ba2f45ef2 cant wait to use this

[rare pumice]

is landorus not a restricted pokemon?

[atomic mural]

no it isnt for some reason

[rare pumice]

i'm getting a premonition that araquanid will have a feast

[craggy dagger]

there’s a difference between legendaries and sub legendaries

true legendary pokemon are box arts

[rare pumice]

mewtwo a pseudo box art

[chrome knot]

@craggy dagger

[foggy lodge]

the best way to differentiate restricted pokemons is the BST

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2225338734 LOOK WHAT IVE DONEEEEEEE

[rare pumice]

i think i fought that team earlier today

[spiral ridge]

3 mons live at 3% hp IN A ROW https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2225339539

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-cat-catlaughing-laughingcat-point-gif-7577620470218150413

[spiral ridge]

i won why you laughing :T

[molten oasis]

I didn’t watch the replay

It wouldn’t load, so I assumed due to the reaction you lost

[spiral ridge]

no just was rollercoaster

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2225343882

[molten oasis]

Well, good job

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2225348346

[tiny peak]

I forgot to ask, for sneasler is sash the best item or something like clear amulet?

[foggy lodge]

Sash

It has paper defenses

[tiny peak]

@foggy lodge kk thanks

[gentle crag]

ryukage118 has given 1 Gen Rep to maxihd

[torn parrot]

Yap yap

[chrome knot]

MAYA

[torn parrot]

Hey fammm

[lofty tartan]

Secured a hotel room that's practically spitting distance from the venue in Toronto. And only 600 for three nights, two people

[spiral ridge]

Americans will use anything but metric

[next stump]

that’s awesome

[chrome knot]

Dillon can I show you my frankenstein creation for gc2

[lofty tartan]

It's a block away lol

I don't know the exact metric distance here lmao

[next stump]

I think mine mathed out to like $160 per person for the weekend so pretty similar amount but we have one more person

[lofty tartan]

Yeah man if I had a third that would be such incredible savings

[chrome knot]

cheap asf for yall bc usd is broklen

[lofty tartan]

I don't really have any friends in the vgc scene that I know would split that are going D:

But 300 for the stay from Friday through to Monday and a whole apartment is swanky

It's really nice. Has a balcony

[spiral ridge]

It’s just a common joke

[lofty tartan]

I'm a filthy imperial swine

[spiral ridge]

Yup

Look some of them I get but like

The gallons quart etc shit is atrocious

[lofty tartan]

I'd rather the world use metric

One system

Down with daylight savings time!

[spiral ridge]

Mhm

MHM

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/riot-gif-22170733

[rare pumice]

is expert belt a valid idea for protean meowscarada?

[chrome knot]

choice band

[lofty tartan]

I think you get more value out of choice band or choice scarf, personally

Scarf like... In remote cases

[chrome knot]

meow is one of the fastest mons in format

[rare pumice]

i am already using a band and i have a tailwind user

[chrome knot]

sash

[rare pumice]

alright

[lofty tartan]

I've seen people run scarf to outspeed Dragapult probably. But I run Band.

[solid frigate]

nope,unless you are confident you can hit stuff for super effective damage

Like Iron Crown in Reg G

[chrome knot]

sucker punch it

[solid frigate]

Dragapult fucking dies to Sucker punch anyways you don't need to waste an item slot for an Item that limits your mons

[lofty tartan]

I dunno why you're trying to convince me lol

I'm not running Scarf

[solid frigate]

we aren't convincing you

just telling those dudes run Scarf Meow is dumbasses

https://tenor.com/view/klopp-liverpool-eurosport-homeofgifs-premier-league-gif-13206355768549570532

when this move exist

[lofty tartan]

I don't think they're here either lol. I prefer to run trick/knock/axel/low kick on band meow anyway. Getting locked into sucker can be a liability

Kinda tempted to try Meow on Psyspam

[chrome knot]

dont it sucks

i tried it with ruby and like u may asw jus do gambit ape

[lofty tartan]

Makes sense.

[rare pumice]

what's the deal with all the riolu on showdown

[solid frigate]

Prankster

[rare pumice]

idk i still don't see it

[solid frigate]

Prankster Support

[rare pumice]

there's a really annoying strategy i've come across on showdown of moody smeargle partnered with alchemy alolan muk

[solid frigate]

thats not new

thats like often in low ladder cts b01 since Reg F-H

[foggy lodge]

https://youtu.be/VMUPrIMYF6E?si=uE7st-TEAwKajOZW

who would have known

[rare pumice]

I think I need a better archaludon counter than gallade

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 503: Samurott-Hisui

Types

Water/Dark

Abilities

Torrent, Sharpness (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/108/80/100/65/85

Total

528

Base Species

Samurott

Sableye version 4.28.1

[craggy dagger]

[shadow wind]

Why is the great equalizer always "65 Spdef"

[rustic mountain]

why would h samurott b a better arch counter then gallade

[midnight mantle]

it dies slightly less to foul play
it dies significantly more to thunderbolt
so uh… it only kinda is

if at all

[rustic mountain]

i get the sharpness equivalent but i think gallade is jus a better user of it

[craggy dagger]

um-
no it’s just my bias kicking in

gallade by far is wayyyy better than hamurott

[rustic mountain]

usually its chomp/dnite chomp a9 for a lot of teams either have big ground damage to deal or u threaten the tera to grass and have ice/flying to deal w/ it then

[craggy dagger]

not weak to electro shot-
not weak to body press

it’s just-
hamurott is fun to play

[rustic mountain]

haha gotcha

i was jus curious if there was something i missed on h samurott as a mon

[craggy dagger]

AV tera fire/fairy
ceaseless, sacred sword, aqua cutter, flex (i put aqua jet for low hp picks)
itssss
okay?

you need a decent amount of bulk invested which means you’ll get less speed or less attack

[rustic mountain]

whats ur speed control for the team

if any

[craggy dagger]

uhhh
lemme pull up the team in a sec-

[rustic mountain]

main issue ive seen ppl have w/ it is even w/ max atk investment and sharpness its just not giving u the damage rolls u want

[craggy dagger]

its still a work in progress but yeahhhh
it cant really pick KO's properly
https://pokepast.es/43b29eceaecc02c6

92+ Atk Sharpness Samurott-Hisui Sacred Sword vs. 252 HP / 28 Def Archaludon: 102-122 (51.7 - 61.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
yeahhhhhhhhh

92+ Atk Sharpness Samurott-Hisui Ceaseless Edge vs. 196 HP / 84 Def Gholdengo: 134-162 (71.6 - 86.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[rare pumice]

would max attack on a tailwind team also be an option?

[craggy dagger]

mmmm

itsssss
underwhelming cause most of the time it can’t pick up KOs-
i suggested it as a joke but if you wanted to try then go ahead

[lofty tartan]

Now to convince my wife that she and the daughter should come to Toronto with me. I can't lose with my ladies around

[craggy dagger]

gah-
toronto signup is going on-
i should do that soon

[lofty tartan]

Get in it fast

Last I saw it was over 700 registered

[craggy dagger]

ah….
yikes-

[lofty tartan]

736 registered as of right now. Registration is Open

Just checked my player dashboard

[craggy dagger]

might not go then-
finances still at question cause i have to pay for semester 2 n 3

[lofty tartan]

Yeah I actually just landed a job that pays well enough to permit this

[craggy dagger]

mannnnnnn
if only tuition didn’t cost so much
it’s ok we still have vancouver to try

[rare pumice]

i ran the numbers and theeeoretically hamurott could ohko archaludon with adamant max attack life orb tera fighting sacred sword, but that's a lot of work for an attack that could easily get turned upside down just from arch terastalizing

[craggy dagger]

n maybe some more travel

[lofty tartan]

Toronto is totally the closest regional to me. Maine is a huge bust

We need more NE regionals.

Like.... One. One would be nice.

If the closest regional to me is Canada that's a problem

[craggy dagger]

There’s always-
Vancouver regionals that i can count on
though the dates usually end up overlapping my finals

[lofty tartan]

Vancouver is way out for me. Lmao

I'd have a better time traveling to Texas xD

Literally opposite coast from me.

I'm excited though. Been a year since I competed seriously

[craggy dagger]

ooo
it’s always exciting to get back into something after a while
the adrenaline rush of competing irl, the real time thinking while trying to read your opponents face
help idk what im saying

[rare pumice]

i'm not really using wild charge at all on my harcanine, i'm wondering if close combat is a better choice

[craggy dagger]

what do you have on harc-
cause isn’t it usually
tera blast rock slide flare blitz espeed?

[rare pumice]

i have extreme speed tera normal flare blitz and rock slide

tera normal has really been useful sometimes so i feel less inclined to try out tera blast

[craggy dagger]

oh you don’t need blast if you’re going normal

usually wisp takes the spot, or you can use wild charge/head smash

[rare pumice]

psychic fangs would be kind of silly in a fun way too but i think close combat may be the best choice for the final move

nvm i'm doing close combat all ursaluna must fall'

now i think i just need a replacement for gallade

i think a good heavy hitting ground type that excells in tailwind is what i need

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 445: Garchomp

Types

Dragon/Ground

Abilities

Sand Veil, Rough Skin (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

108/130/95/80/85/102

Total

600

Other Formes

Garchomp-Mega

Sableye version 4.28.1

[craggy dagger]

[rare pumice]

does garchomp get headlong rush

ooo it doesn't but it does get swords dance hmmhmhm

[rustic mountain]

ud think for such a popular area wed atleast get 1 per szn

[lofty tartan]

That's exsctly what I'm saying. Boston. New York. Providence. There's tons of places.

Even here in Maine we have massive convention centers

We get like A-list bands up here now

There's this place that's perfect for Pokémon regionals capacity. The Cross Insurance Center in Bangor, ME houses comic book and anime conventions

[rustic mountain]

yea i genuinely dont get it

they did hartford and pittsburgh last szn, not exactly super close tho depending where ur at but better then most

[lofty tartan]

Boston is a 5 hour drive from me.

Almost the entirety of that is leaving my state.

Pittsburgh was a hike. I was there

It cost a goddamn fortune

[rustic mountain]

yea unfortunately couldnt make it out same for hartford i had everything booked and had irl stuff pop up

it is expensive for sure

[lofty tartan]

Oh damn that sucks. Tell me you're gonna be at Toronto

[rustic mountain]

nah idts

[lofty tartan]

Lame!

[rustic mountain]

wens toronto

[lofty tartan]

December 14 - 16

[rustic mountain]

hmmm honestly maybe

[lofty tartan]

Two months. So I have plenty of time for cash

[rustic mountain]

id hav to see how realistic itd be

[lofty tartan]

There's some deals to be had for lodging

[rustic mountain]

def would be a trek for me

[lofty tartan]

I landed a place where I don't even have to pay til December

It's a block from the venue

[rustic mountain]

thats dope

[lofty tartan]

Getting in on bookings.com gets you the savings

I even qualified for a 10% discount

[rustic mountain]

r u an agent i feel like im in a commercial

but nah fr thats whats up

[lofty tartan]

Nah I just know it's tough to be an adult and travel to a video game competition.

[rustic mountain]

i appreciate it

[lofty tartan]

Yah man like there's tons of deals if you get in on it early. There's hotels and apartments all super close to the venue

All very realistic

[rustic mountain]

yea ill have to take a look, maybe ill swing it as my only event this szn if it winds up bein more then i originally thought

[lofty tartan]

There was at least 18 I was looking at, all in the Harbour district which is right by the center

[rustic mountain]

cuz as of now idk if i can even go to any others, this is somewhat realistic at least

[lofty tartan]

Yeah this was the only super realistic one for me so we leapt at it

My wife gave me the green light and I slammed that registration button

[rustic mountain]

hell yea

is she gna go w/ u

[lofty tartan]

I hope you can make it. If my wife comes (I really really hope she does) we're gonna change our booking and I'll shoot you the place we canceled :d

Cause that one is a steal

It's cheap

[rustic mountain]

cool appreciate it. i hope she goes unrelated to that cuz im sure thatd b an even better experience for u

[lofty tartan]

But it's also very nice. Whole apartment. Like less than 100 a night

[rustic mountain]

oh wow yea that is very good

[lofty tartan]

It's insanely good. We paid way more for a dumpy apartment in Pittsburgh that was sorta close to the venue. About a half mile

This one has a balcony

Overlooks the harbor

[rustic mountain]

yea time booked ahead and city can all factor in as im sure u know so sometimes u get the short end of the stick

[lofty tartan]

I've also never been to Canada. So this'll be fun. My siblings all got to go with my grandparents as a kid but I was the outcast.

[rustic mountain]

that seems like the opposite tho which is fire

[lofty tartan]

Yeah we got screwed in Pitt so we're booking early and putting safety nets in this time

[rustic mountain]

yea its been awhile since ive been to canada actually been to toronto b4 its a really nice city prolly one of the cleanest ive been to

[lofty tartan]

Yeah? Awesome. I can tell my wife it's clean

I walked by literal human feces on the sidewalk in Pittsburgh

GG TCPI

[rustic mountain]

like i said its been awhile but atleast where i was at it was like suprisingly well kept but i had like nyc as my main comparison so the bars pretty low

[lofty tartan]

NYC wasn't really bad last year. It was my roommate's first time in the big city like that

I had such sights to show him. But we instantly got a slice and a beer when we hit NYC

[rustic mountain]

yea i mean theres no city like nyc but that shits pretty dirty overall

[lofty tartan]

God new York has such good pizza

[rustic mountain]

ive been in and out the big apple my whole life

[lofty tartan]

Oh for sure. We saw rats

[rustic mountain]

the tru nyc experience

[lofty tartan]

Honestly I'm hoping to move out of Maine ASAP. Done with this place. Lol

I miss living in the city

Maine is too remote

[rustic mountain]

feel that

idk i like the quiet but depends sometimes its too quiet i dont like areas where ur neighbors are like 2 acres away

[lofty tartan]

It's too quiet and there's nothing to do and everyone knows everyone's business.

In the city no one cares who I am or what I do

[rare pumice]

so i'm trying to implement garchomp onto my tailwind team, and i'm so far i'm using swords dance, earthquake, and protect, with enough speed to outpace base 80's outside of tailwind, and the rest put into full attack and hp, but i'm really struggling with a final move

[lofty tartan]

Stomping Tantrum, EQ, Dragon Claw all good move choices for the Chomp

I like pure offense no setup Chomp right now

[rustic mountain]

dragon claw? nd jus go stomping over sd if ur tw centric ur prolly not geared towards actually getting sd up most times

[lofty tartan]

Max speed max attack jolly

[rustic mountain]

jus smack a choice band or life orb on that guy

[lofty tartan]

Lorb Chomp is the way

[rustic mountain]

yea i def feel like the protect flexibility is great but band chomp has also been pretty successful

[rare pumice]

is breaking swipe an interesting option for bulkier garchomp builds

[rustic mountain]

depends on the team id say

[lofty tartan]

I've been really considering giving Band a shot. I try to test everything personally before really having an opinion

Otherwise I just talk out of my butt and that doesn't help anyone xD

[rustic mountain]

if ur more balance based maybe but otherwise seeing as ur tw centric idt it nets u the value u want with hyper offense

[lofty tartan]

I think Garchomp really wants to sweep right now in this meta. There's a ton of things really weak to ground and dragon is absolutely a premiere offensive type right now with fairies real low.

[rustic mountain]

for sure or atleast chunk things down

[lofty tartan]

Yeah too many things don't wanna take a Tantrum or an EQ

[rare pumice]

it's just that i already have a choice band user and without setup i feel like he can't succesfully go toe-to-toe with an ursaluna if need be

[lofty tartan]

Sneasler top used mon folds to Tantrum like nobody's business

[rustic mountain]

thats a weirdly specific 1v1

[rare pumice]

my team currently struggles with ursaluna variants

[rustic mountain]

especially since its a 2v2 field

[lofty tartan]

Chomp has some very strong natural bulk

[rustic mountain]

i mean chomp is never really gna be ur direct ursa counter. u can try sd but again if ur goin tw ur likely not gna have the resources/support to consistently allow chomp to not only get it off but use it effectively

[lofty tartan]

But yeah that's very specific. Uhhh common duo is chomp/ninetales right now and Ursa does not like Blizzard one bit

I'd be pairing Chomp with something that scares Ursa if I think they're leading it and I have nothing else better to disrupt them with

[rare pumice]

i guess my issue is that my team is almost entirely physical attackers

[lofty tartan]

Physical attackers are good and plentiful. That seems normal

[rare pumice]

i'll look into some special attackers that might be good threats right now

[lofty tartan]

Like yes, you dislike intimidate, but a lot of very physically-focused teams do well.

Like some people forget that they can switch their stuff

Zany

[rustic mountain]

check victory road for top performing teams at recent irl tours

if not to yoink the team atleast get some inspiration

[lofty tartan]

Special Attackers I like right now... I mean.. I'm playing Delphox at the moment so I don't know if my opinion is solid lmfao

[rustic mountain]

delphox is a solid mon atm

[lofty tartan]

Puts the knuckles right to Kingambit.

I'm like 50/50 on if I bring Delphox to Toronto

[rare pumice]

i think i may be focusing too hard on specifically countering ursaluna but i really don't have any answers to it right now

[lofty tartan]

But the team has had good results. Monke and Sam took it to two limitless Top 4 finishes, and Sam won his first local with my Delphox team xD

Swept his first local, even. Totally undefeated. My little protege

[rustic mountain]

well u def want to have an answer for it but im jus saying chomp alone really shouldnt be relied upon to be it

[rustic mountain]

pog

[rare pumice]

i guess worst case scenario i do have a tera grass flower trick meowscarada but i am interested in finding the special attacker that's right for me

[rustic mountain]

yea keep exploring options and like i said take a look at victory road

[lofty tartan]

Primarina is a good special attacker that pressures Ursa. Unsure of damage calcs off the top of my head.

Ideally you force a Tera and pin them

[rustic mountain]

i think prims kinda on fraud watch atm

[lofty tartan]

I'm playing Basc over her

Basc is 🔥

[rustic mountain]

im using basc atm too lol

[rare pumice]

i'm seeing a lot of primarina right now

[lofty tartan]

He's so damn good

[rare pumice]

and hisuian typhlosion

[lofty tartan]

I've got a Tera fairy Tera Blast on him.

Great defensively and strong offensively. Adaptability will activate on blast after Tera for a 2x

[rustic mountain]

itll still be around im jus goin off louisville results its day 2 conversion was almost nonexistent

[rare pumice]

a surprising amount of pelipper as well but i guess that's mostly due to archaludon

[lofty tartan]

Peli is just good

He's our favorite birb

[rustic mountain]

seems w/ its mid def w/ a super physical dominant meta and lack of speed hurt it in a format where immediate offensive pressure is generally favored

[lofty tartan]

Yeah who woulda thought lmao

It's physical defense really is bad

[rustic mountain]

i love pelipper

[lofty tartan]

You always gotta invest pretty heavy there

Or it just explodes to a stray glance

[rustic mountain]

in the same way ppl thought palafin would be reg c level and its just not

[rare pumice]

modest max spatk pelipper can take out ursaluna with a single weather ball apparently

[knotty mirage]

Peli is def an mvp in this reg i can't count how many times i clutch a games with it

[lofty tartan]

Yeah I mean Rilla really hurts Palafin. And he's competing for a water slot against way better more immediate things

And he has this opportunity cost attached to him permanently

[rustic mountain]

i admit i was wrong on both i thought theyd be a lot better but as the metas progressed theyve both heavily fallen outta favor tho palafin did have 2 finishes in the top 32 of louisville

[lofty tartan]

I thought he'd be a lot better too.

[rustic mountain]

this is the major achilles heel. it was passable back then it seems a lot more difficult now

[lofty tartan]

I was 150% correct about Sneasler on day -30 before Reg H

[knotty mirage]

One shotting whimsi with fire weather ball is also nice still useful even when the rain get replaced

[rustic mountain]

i did not see it being what it was now at all

[rare pumice]

idk if having pelipper on my team is a good idea though since i have two fire types on it as is

[rustic mountain]

they are jus saying its a good mon it def needs the right team

1 fire type like incin is passable 2 it gets dicey

[rare pumice]

yeah i suppose but both of them provide really important roles to me right now

[rustic mountain]

nd dont tunnel vision on an answer being an ohko only. a lot of games thats jus not gna happen. players generally dont jus give things up especially w/ tera as an available option

[rare pumice]

maybe instead of ohko i can wall it then with a pokemon that'll actually benefit the rest of my team like sinistcha

[lofty tartan]

I had a hard time believing something st 130 base attack and 120 speed was mid xD

He's faster than Ursh and has the same attack stat

And a good move pool. Deep. Rich. Also Dire Claw is stupid

[torn parrot]

Peopel say a lot of things are mid

Did you know that Miraidon is mid

Heh

[lofty tartan]

Lmao yeah people have like.. A personal bias about things

I was calling that Sneasler was top tier ages ago. Reg H is his Stomping ground.

He's gonna fall off when we go back to Reg G

[torn parrot]

Really hate reg G

[lofty tartan]

I was struggling a bit in it but I think it's because I was never serious in a low power format so I lacked a lot of observational awareness

I've been using Reg H to hone my skills

Luckily Toronto is H xD

Ugh I'm so far ahead at work at still have 3 hours left.

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-notes-noted-gif-26232003

[torn parrot]

I hate reg G cus it’s just like really dumbed down pokemon imo

[molten oasis]

that itch to play is back lmao

[molten oasis]

like what exactly?

[torn parrot]

Maybe dumbed down isn’t the right word but more the way I see it, it’s really rock paper scissors

And you get 5x more rewarded and 5 x more punished

Mons one shotting each other is just an average little turn for everything on the field

But more so it’s my own personal preference that teambuilding for reg G is just really boring for me

[molten oasis]

fair enough, i feel that fs

[lofty tartan]

Nah just high power crazy things lobbying spread moves everywhere.

The margin for error is very small and the window for being punished is quite large

[balmy glen]

Ah I guess I just like games ending fast

[lofty tartan]

Man I think Wendy's breakfast is totally gonna be a thing after work. I am staaaaarving

Breakfast baconator. A calorie delivery system

[rare pumice]

i think i'm gonna try making a rain team and see how i fare

[lofty tartan]

Rain is good

[molten oasis]

this is sick asf

[rare pumice]

is u-turn prefered on killowattrel

[mighty stump]

I don’t see where you’re fitting U-Turn on Kilowattrel. What item are you running??

[rare pumice]

covert cloak and tailwind

i figured u-turn would be better than volt switch since nothing is immune to it

[shadow wind]

Pivoting honestly isn't as important in VGC as it is in Singles

Pivoting moves are usually only used on either the fastest of fastest or slowest of slow