competitive_discussion

[bold geode]

Come again

[real prairie]

you don't get to pick lol

the current Reg is H, which is non legendaries and limited dex

[bold geode]

[craggy dagger]

i’m trying

https://pokepast.es/6f39cd6551f8c2d1

[bold geode]

@molten oasis you spelled Typhlosion wrong dumbass

[real prairie]

they are new, give them a break haha

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

[craggy dagger]

yeah yeah
you’ve seen worse from me so stop overreacting

[bold geode]

Tf is a Kee berry

[real prairie]

We don't talk about Typhlosion right now 👀

[chrome knot]

normal reaction

[solid frigate]

if you are doing Reg G,just use Chi-Yu
If Reg H,just don't do that idea-

[chrome knot]

no overreaction rn

[craggy dagger]

right…

[molten oasis]

[bold geode]

I genuinely don't know what a Kee berry is

[chrome knot]

yup :3

[tiny karma]

Item: Kee Berry

Raises holder's Defense by 1 stage after it is hit by a physical attack. Single use.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[bold geode]

Oh

[real prairie]

its reaction to seeing its "Leak"

[solid frigate]

lmao the Emote

[craggy dagger]

[bold geode]

Of course you'd find some shit like that

[wild depot]

Move on

[solid frigate]

stop we don't wanna hear-

[craggy dagger]

ofc

[undone sage]

o

[solid frigate]

Hey Seal

[wild depot]

slow

hi

[bold geode]

Wha?

[undone sage]

I'm busy

[wild depot]

hi busy

[undone sage]

How dare you

[solid frigate]

lmao

[wild depot]

how dare i what

[craggy dagger]

:0
rare
seal and kitsu appearance-

[wild depot]

hello

[undone sage]

[solid frigate]

The Comp chat Cameo

[wild depot]

whats up busy

wait this is comp chat??

[craggy dagger]

[wild depot]

ewewew

[undone sage]

Just paying home insurance

[solid frigate]

lol

[rare pumice]

i am now convinced that i should use a charjabug in reg h

[wild depot]

[undone sage]

Nice emote

[wild depot]

PC RESET MY EMOJIS

[craggy dagger]

[undone sage]

[wild depot]

im rebuilding my pc today

[bold geode]

Me AF

[solid frigate]

[undone sage]

Did you get yoru parts?

[real prairie]

this won't last very long, but god be with you on your adventure

[wild depot]

ya

[craggy dagger]

why

[undone sage]

GL

[solid frigate]

idk Lyco did that lmao

[bold geode]

Ew Lyco

[craggy dagger]

who?

[solid frigate]

we agree to stop this arguement ok

We don't wanna spark another debate

[bold geode]

Your mom

[real prairie]

Do half of you lot all know each other IRL or are you just OGs of the chat 🤣

[craggy dagger]

oh
him

[craggy dagger]

ogs kinda

[bold geode]

Regular

[solid frigate]

Mostly OG

[craggy dagger]

i’m not a regular-
i-
i come and go as i please

[solid frigate]

I'm technically not but i kinda count as one now

[real prairie]

Right, what was i thinking VGC players to be IRL... my bad, sorry

[bold geode]

I ain't a comp chat old man like @dull ibex and @mighty stump

[craggy dagger]

stares

[real prairie]

TBF i think ive been here just over a year now 🤣

[solid frigate]

I mean I might meet Keanu in EUIC

If you don't know he's the Guy who got 20th in 2024 Worlds

[dull ibex]

[solid frigate]

LMAO

[craggy dagger]

my dreams is to play a stupid team and beat someone in an irl tournament

[real prairie]

I might meet you in Birmingham and London soo theres that too lol

[solid frigate]

i ain't doing that

[dull ibex]

That's a weirdly grounded and achievable dream

[bold geode]

So you're wanting to be Jamie Boyt

[craggy dagger]

[torn parrot]

Go for it! 😎

[rare pumice]

charjabug and hydreigon gonna be uber together i guaruntee it

[torn parrot]

Hell yeah

[solid frigate]

Nova being Next Jamie Boyt fr???

[real prairie]

won't meet me or wont be doing Birmingham / London? lol

[dull ibex]

My dream was to be competent next to good players like tofu

[solid frigate]

won't Meet you

[dull ibex]

I think I achieved that this Gen

[real prairie]

fair enough 🤣

[dull ibex]

I'm okay at higher level play I think

[solid frigate]

i just wanna do good in person events, thats all,and unlock how to teambuild better cuz i am fine at teambuild

[dull ibex]

Atp I just want to play and win

[real prairie]

meet you in the final then you'll have no choice LOL

[solid frigate]

don't get your hopes up

[real prairie]

twas taking thy piss

[craggy dagger]

eventually it’s gonna become my dream to beat a well known name in the vgc community with a stupid idea but

[real prairie]

if i end positive id be over the moon

[craggy dagger]

for now-
it’s to beat someone in an irl tourney

[solid frigate]

thats basically my plans but more towards Meta idea lmao

[craggy dagger]

i’m trying to think-
is there any way to deal with low kick iron hands-

cause i’m really tempted to run boltbeam miraidon

[bold geode]

You're just not competent, not talking game

[craggy dagger]

and iron hands is a problem

[real prairie]

I want to be known as "that ludicolo guy", ill figure out how lol

[solid frigate]

Yes

Calyrex Shadow Rider Psyshock

[solid frigate]

well ummmmm

we know you did that before

[real prairie]

i thought low kick works on heavier mons better or have i got that the wrong way round?

[craggy dagger]

yes it does

[bold geode]

No you right

[real prairie]

Iron Hands is a chonk lol

[craggy dagger]

but super effective + prolly atk drive + low kick base 100

[real prairie]

fair i suppose

[real prairie]

id have thought AV Hands but i missed reg G so not sure

AV hands was the go to early Reg's

[solid frigate]

I love how Me and Nova Switched Roles depending on games

VGC:Me Meta Based,Nova Niche Based
HSR:Me Less Focus on Meta,Nova Good Builds+Focus on Meta

[real prairie]

i really should go to bed, its 1am lol

[solid frigate]

i'm not that tired lmao

[dull ibex]

huh

oh you are calling me stupid then clarified it wasnt a dig at my pokemon skills

[torn parrot]

If your confusing yourself then all evasion luck is canceled out by the fact that you can only play the game 50% of the time

so then what was the point of activating this ability in the first place

[dull ibex]

okay

[solid frigate]

is it that only for a few mons

or just one

[torn parrot]

I think only dodrio

It’s just
Such a useless ability…

if you do run it should only be used passively

[solid frigate]

ah yes a Mon that is used to be good but outclassed by literally everything

[torn parrot]

The cookage does not exist

I guess it’s gambling time

[solid frigate]

what the fuck

Ok i get the other stuff but
Dual Purpose Sinstcha wtf

i wanna cry seeing this team

[dull ibex]

LETS GO GAMBLING

[solid frigate]

AWW Dang it

[dull ibex]

I hate trade channels

[torn parrot]

Aw dang it I hit myself with 2x attack because I swaggered my pokemon

[craggy dagger]

no no
mirai isn’t gonna be able to do anything to it

[craggy dagger]

tf you mean

[tiny peak]

What tera types does sneasler use?

[tiny karma]

Ability: Tangled Feet

This Pokemon's evasiveness is doubled as long as it is confused.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[craggy dagger]

i don’t use meta units

[solid frigate]

Dark is Useful

[real prairie]

not helpful lol

[real prairie]

I like Flying or Stellar

[craggy dagger]

i just pull for who i like and try to build them the best i can

[torn parrot]

The only reason way this is useful is if you accidently get confused

[craggy dagger]

hence why i’m still using my seele to this day

[solid frigate]

Psyspam:Exists
Throat Chop Damage:

[tiny peak]

@real prairie I was curious about stellar i like that one

[craggy dagger]

100.2% cr, 325.6% cd

[solid frigate]

at least you have built stuff lol

[dull kraken]

Does anyone sell pokemon trade ?

[real prairie]

the not helpful was in response to DT giving me no extra info on Tangled feet

[solid frigate]

Trade in #trading_sv and no trade Selling

[real prairie]

#trading_rules

[solid frigate]

skill issue

[dull kraken]

Dont think anyone will trade there mew huh ?

[real prairie]

wondered if it had the added effect of preventing the confusion self harm or at least reducing it

[molten oasis]

Is that emoji off limits now

[solid frigate]

you can just

/dt

[molten oasis]

If so that’s insanely disappointing cuz it’s hilarious

[craggy dagger]

please go check in #1112832566261731328 or #trading_sv
this isn’t the place for trading pokemon

[real prairie]

like Guts mutes the burn nerf

[torn parrot]

That’s what it does
):

[solid frigate]

i don't think so,its just mentioning that "Thing" alarms

[real prairie]

i did lol i was responding to it haha

[molten oasis]

Ok

[torn parrot]

I’m pretty sure the purpose of tangled feet is a mild defense against confusion not to confuse your own Pokémon

[solid frigate]

at least i am the only guy who uses Tera Dark cuz i fucking hate Psyspasm

[real prairie]

yeah clearly a playthrough ability at most

[real prairie]

oh no ive run tera dark before too

until i just ran a natural dark type instead because Fuck em

[torn parrot]

Okay so the accuracy to hit is half

[craggy dagger]

dark what?

[real prairie]

Sneasler

[craggy dagger]

ah-
dark sneasler is good

it’s what i have atm

[real prairie]

yeah, i keep going back and forth between dark throat chop, flying acrobatics or Stellar + insert 3rd move here

[solid frigate]

i just fucking hate Psyspasm thats all

[torn parrot]

I got sick of other sneaslers so I swapped to acrobatics cus I felt I had enough ways to kill gholdengo

[craggy dagger]

valid

[torn parrot]

Fuck you other sneaslers

Get acrod

[solid frigate]

lol

[torn parrot]

People are gonna start using sneasler to counter sneasler

[solid frigate]

i kinda just use Poison Touch lol

[bold geode]

Yeah you're stupid

[torn parrot]

That’s ok

[bold geode]

Also Gibby is a Pokemon, change my mind

[dull ibex]

coming from you thats a compliment

is scarlet and violet under maintenance?

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/MarsVgc/status/1846009564711321693

Marco (@MarsVgc) on X

Thanks to everyone for the support who were DMing me here or in discord it means a lot to me :)

https://t.co/mmBLSS2Dp5

Rental code: Q4B1RS

Twitter · Oct 15, 2024, 2:05 AM

Rental code/pokepaste of the Ceruledge team from Louisville

[next stump]

Marco is my homie, it’s an awesome team

[bold geode]

I just hate Sash Unburden

Other than that the team looks fucking fire

[dull ibex]

I need a bulky pelipper spread now lmao

[torn parrot]

Hell yeah got two shiny sneaslers from masuda

[bold geode]

https://x.com/SerebiiNet/status/1846350197028540896?t=_tFLymyJl_u1bsIdT5370w&s=19

Serebii.net (@SerebiiNet) on X

Serebii Update: The next Pokémon Scarlet & Violet online competition has been officially revealed, the Grand Challenge 2025 II. Earns points towards Worlds 2025 as well as League Points and items

Registration begins October 17th 2024

Details @ https://t.co/NWlAdn5F0o

Twitter · Oct 16, 2024, 12:39 AM

[torn parrot]

Skipping that one too

[dull ibex]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2223864318 wow.

[torn parrot]

What’s the team showcase thing that YouTubers use to display teams

[atomic mural]

huh

[solid frigate]

easy skip

[rustic mountain]

like vivi over yanma sucked or the team jus felt bad period

[rustic mountain]

hopefully ill be able to play in this one

feel more confident in the team im using now anyway

[torn parrot]

Fuck it I’ll find it on my own

Okay so what is this thing

A website?

[rustic mountain]

yea

[torn parrot]

Which one?

[dull ibex]

Try pika lyrics

Pikalytics

Nvm

[torn parrot]

Hmph

Btw
Gamefreak giving komala facade is another example of how stupid they are

[dull ibex]

It's vgchelper

It's on IOS apparently

[torn parrot]

Gotcha

Thanks

That’s cool might download for stylish teamsheets

[dull ibex]

I'm on android sadly

[bold geode]

Oh
That's VGCHelper.com

[torn parrot]

Oh thank you

[bold geode]

Sorry didn't know what you meant
Though it will take you to a download thing you can only get if you're IOS and not Android

[zinc totem]

foul play doesnt care if attack iv is 0 right?

[spiral ridge]

It does

Lower the attack the better

[zinc totem]

i mean the foul play users

not target

[spiral ridge]

Ohh

[tiny karma]

Move: Foul Play

Damage is calculated using the target's Attack stat, including stat stage changes. The user's Ability, item, and burn are used as normal.

Type

Dark

Category

Physical

Power

95

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[spiral ridge]

I’m not sure

[zinc totem]

thats what im wondering myself

[spiral ridge]

I would assume it does less?

No bloody clue sorry

[zinc totem]

yeah thats what im like

[zinc totem]

im doing calcs and it doesnt seem like IV matters

i got confirmation @spiral ridge Attack IV stat has no effect on foul play damage as its solely on oppoonent side

[spiral ridge]

Cool

[foggy lodge]

No

For example, foul play Umbreon would run 0 attack iv to minimize foul play/confusion damage

[torn parrot]

Antony star is annoying the hell out of me right now

The boys is ruined

[rustic mountain]

primarina had a terrible showing at louisville

[molten oasis]

prima under fraud allegations?

[rustic mountain]

100%

1 prim in top 32

it was on like every balance team before this tour it fell off a cliff

its not that ppl didnt bring it it has had a terrible day 2 conversion

[torn parrot]

That’s sad

[rustic mountain]

the people are starved for good water types

[spiral ridge]

Saw a few basc and tauros day two

https://tenor.com/view/basculin-basculegion-hisui-legends-arceus-pokemon-gif-16348501758758153029

[molten oasis]

thats wild

im surprised there isnt more basc

i think scarf basc is underexplored

[torn parrot]

Where’d all the water types go

):

[craggy dagger]

stares at pelipper

[molten oasis]

peli isnt super easy to slap on a team

[torn parrot]

Ur right we’ll all just play rain

I guess

[craggy dagger]

yeah i know

i’m just trying to lighten up the mood i’m sorry…

[rustic mountain]

as much as i love pelipper, wen thats the best water type its rough haha

[rustic mountain]

rains fun

[molten oasis]

why exactly?

i have like, a faint idea on why

ig you're forced to play rain

[spiral ridge]

Peli basc time

We killing ourselves with wave crash

Honestly

I’m sorta interested in making a team with that earth power ice beam gastro

https://tenor.com/view/toniodiggy-gastrodon-pokemon-shiny-hello-gif-5702148930776752169

[rustic mountain]

i think its been generally the best performing water type in reg h overall

oh u mean for why its rough

i think generally u want more out of ur water type, pelippers solid but its moreso an enabler then a huge threat on its own

[spiral ridge]

Plus it’s main damage is hurricane spam less weather ball
At least I see hurricane pressed way more

[rustic mountain]

so wen that option is one of ur best for a water type, which is a really good type in vgc, it hampers ur ability to effectively slot things in where u need to. u still can its jus ur pool of options is not only not as good they are also limited

[rustic mountain]

and w/ weather wars u either make that a normal move or a 70 or 50% accurate move in sun. like u def gta be particular how u play it. if u get out of position trynna reclaim the weather can be tough

[molten oasis]

gotcha

wait what?

its 50% accurate in sun?

[rustic mountain]

yes

[spiral ridge]

Hurri yeah

[molten oasis]

i never knew that

[spiral ridge]

I’ve been made quite familiar with it

[molten oasis]

how do you use the bot, the usual /dt hasn't been working, that or im dumb

[spiral ridge]

Groudon rilla lead ready to beat the shit our my kyogre jug

[tiny karma]

Move: Hurricane

Has a 30% chance to confuse the target. This move can hit a target using Bounce, Fly, or Sky Drop, or is under the effect of Sky Drop. If the weather is Primordial Sea or Rain Dance, this move does not check accuracy. If the weather is Desolate Land or Sunny Day, this move's accuracy is 50%. If this move is used against a Pokemon holding Utility Umbrella, this move's accuracy remains at 70%.

Type

Flying

Category

Special

Power

110

Accuracy

70

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Wind

Triggers Wind Power and Wind Rider.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[spiral ridge]

You might be dumb love

[molten oasis]

what exactly did you put in

[spiral ridge]

And I may also be

./dt hurricane without the dot there

[molten oasis]

ic, its a . now

[spiral ridge]

What

[molten oasis]

nvm im stupid

/dt hurricane

[spiral ridge]

the one instruction

[molten oasis]

[spiral ridge]

Uhh

Are you by any chance putting a space?

[molten oasis]

you see what i mean now

[spiral ridge]

Before the slash

[molten oasis]

no

[spiral ridge]

You’re awake wtf

[chrome knot]

viv was meh, remade mattie team tho

[spiral ridge]

I’m not sure why bot isn’t working for you

[molten oasis]

[tiny karma]

Move: Leaf Storm

Lowers the user's Special Attack by 2 stages.

Type

Grass

Category

Special

Power

130

Accuracy

90

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[rustic mountain]

yea its working for me too

[molten oasis]

[spiral ridge]

Shadow banned

[molten oasis]

i must have gotten banned or smth

which makes, no sense, at all

i cant use ANY bot

[spiral ridge]

Sounds like a bug instead of ban lol

[molten oasis]

probably

[spiral ridge]

Your shit is tweaking

[molten oasis]

its been like this for a couple days

[spiral ridge]

Interesting

[rustic mountain]

seeing as its gotten 1st and 2nd at 2 regionals so far id say theres something there haha

[chrome knot]

i also think

it makes the most sense switching to

[molten oasis]

maybe i need an update

[rustic mountain]

tru u got the p2 connection and incin shroom

[chrome knot]

but i did make it in game, and caught a random ass shiny gabite looking for a mark lmfao

[rustic mountain]

pog

[chrome knot]

hopefully heading to toronto this weekend for a local

[molten oasis]

what's the p2 for?

[rustic mountain]

nice gl

[chrome knot]

tyy

[molten oasis]

nvm, imma figure out why i cant use bots

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-22295199

[spiral ridge]

Discord support: we just don’t like you

[molten oasis]

understandable

[torn parrot]

So

Is porygon the farigiraf of regulation H

[balmy glen]

Alr I did wager matches let me know when Toronto signups is going up an hour before in dms @chrome knot

[real prairie]

just faced a glow tail baton pass team into Bloodmoon Ursa

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-mushroom-cloud-atomic-bomb-bomb-boom-gif-4464831

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/YTpublic/status/1846132920861577668

YT next→LAIC (@YTpublic) on X

Revised Tier for team from Louisville Results
(Oct 15 ver)
You must think of A/B tier, and C tier if possible.

Twitter · Oct 15, 2024, 10:16 AM

[real prairie]

took me a minute to realise thats Rillaboom

[solid frigate]

moment

[mighty stump]

This is not an intuitive graphic at first glance

Hahaha

[real prairie]

Right then, happy with the Mons, any moveset changes or EV spread adjustments or even tera changes i should consider? (Fire Tera Amoongus has already saved my bacon once against a TR Torkoal lol) https://pokepast.es/328b8fa797ae4b46

[chrome knot]

LOL DUBS

[chrome knot]

you’ve been told numerous times to not talk abt this

[stark kindle]

Were not making these jokes.

[real prairie]

Okay sorry

[solid frigate]

Lemme Haunt you in EUIC

[polar canyon]

Hi y'all

Is there a solid counter to archaludon yet

[polar canyon]

Was it about those leaks

[solid frigate]

Sneasler

[polar canyon]

Awesome

How does it work?

Maybe I should get back to competitive now

Maybe it's just me but somehow the meta started feeling even more stale after they banned legendaries

[solid frigate]

Dire Claw Shenanigins,And just 1 Close Combat to Archaludon's Face

[polar canyon]

You remember me right? your best friend campfire from discord

[solid frigate]

is everyone here hate legendaries here-

[polar canyon]

Does sneasler not just get one shot by the pelliper

I can't be the only one who never remembers if it's double l or double p

Pelliper

I mean pelipper

[polar canyon]

No tbh I was having more fun with the legendaries than I do in reg h

[solid frigate]

Sash is an Option
And its doubles you can pair other mons with it

[polar canyon]

When you put it like that yeah

One fake out rilla on that peli while grassy seed sneasler ccs the archaludon

And if it's tera fairy then idk guess you lose anyways

Do people still do unburden terrain seed shenanigans

I've seen unburden normal gem fake out before

I'm talking like I've been out of the loop for years but I've only stopped for like 2 months

[real prairie]

sort of, but clearly hit the wrong crowd, is what it is i wont do it again lol

[polar canyon]

I think the leaks were actually very interesting to see apart from those creepy story ones

You know which ones

[solid frigate]

Covert Peli Kinda Lit tho

[polar canyon]

Idk why they wouldn't just release scrapped art and old concepts for the public to see

It's so interesting seeing the story of the development

[solid frigate]

i'm literally a Covert Peli Supporter

[polar canyon]

Covert peli supporter until it gets hit with any special attack from more than 100 base spatk

Then back to sash tera ghost baby

So in conclusion sneasler is kinda a somewhat good matchup vs archaludon?

Gotta bring out the av pincurchin for the peli archa matchups they'll never see it coming

/hj

I'm honestly thinking about it

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 871: Pincurchin

Type

Electric

Abilities

Lightning Rod, Electric Surge (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

48/101/95/91/85/15

Total

435

Sableye version 4.28.1

[polar canyon]

hmmm

[real prairie]

Depends on the build but a lot of the time Sneasler can OHKO with CC

[polar canyon]

Won't a lot of the time the archaludon just tera to neutral/resist

[polar canyon]

252+ Atk Sneasler Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Archaludon: 180-212 (91.3 - 107.6%) -- 50% chance to OHKO

So about that

What's "a lot of the time"?

It's been a while since I built anything

I might need some refreshing

What should I try to make it outspeed after unburden?

Probably something in tailwind

Tailwind timid ghold?

[real prairie]

arch isn't usually running 252 HP

[polar canyon]

How do you guys feel about support dnite with dragon tail

Displacement sounds nice for boosted archas or getting redirection out of the field

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/aa27c43ea525ea6f changed some spreads

[real prairie]

Dragon tail goes last so rarely is very useful

[torn parrot]

give man haze

[polar canyon]

Yeah I noticed it can just do that when building it

Hi maya

[torn parrot]

heya

i woke up

[polar canyon]

I'm thinking it also helps displace stuff like follow me maushold

Getting rid of it for a turn can be pretty helpful

Either a turn wasted switching it back in or no friend guard

Or just messing with whatever planning the opponent has

Hopefully

[chrome knot]

@craggy dagger hi I need help with a gimmick

im near perfecting it I just think there can be a better 6th

[polar canyon]

A gimmick?

[polar canyon]

I may be having terrible ideas since it's been a while

If I do lmk please

[craggy dagger]

shoot the idea over

[chrome knot]

pms!

[polar canyon]

I had a goofy idea

Next time there's a meta where rilla thrives

I wanna use it offensively with coaching grassy seed unburden sneasler

[bold geode]

Hate to burst your bubble, but that's literally a meta idea

[torn parrot]

ill do you one better

next time annialpe is relevent ill use beat up into the annilape to boost its rage fist

[polar canyon]

Ok then I had a goofy meta idea

I never said I had an original idea

Doesn't even need to be sneasler tho so it doesn't matter

If the plan is fake out + coaching turn 1 then spam glide

[craggy dagger]

hasn't seed unburden acrobatics been a thing since reg A

[polar canyon]

That has

Not unburden coaching

[craggy dagger]

i should try defiant acrobatics tornadus

[polar canyon]

Actually what used unburden acrobatics in reg a? It took a while for sneasler to arrive

[craggy dagger]

hawlucha-

[polar canyon]

Oh yea

[craggy dagger]

plus flying stab too

[azure ether]

Hi Monke. Just wanna let you know that I'll be using the Infernape team for locals here this weekend

[torn parrot]

has anybody trie

[polar canyon]

Also hi monke

Been a while

[azure ether]

Can I ask how it fares in bo3?

[torn parrot]

any body tried grassy seed acrobatics rillaboom?

[polar canyon]

I'm sure people have tried and that's probably why no one uses it

[torn parrot]

):

[polar canyon]

When a very obvious idea is not used, most of the time it's because it's not good

Who knows maybe everyone else is stupid

Costs nothing to try

[calm gulch]

where is monke

[torn parrot]

theres no real point inhaving a flying type move

[dull ibex]

is arch just a more aggressive setup sweeper since he sets up by attacking 🤔

[polar canyon]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking

[bold geode]

It does aight in BO3, though idk how good results it'll get tbh

[polar canyon]

It's a setup sweeper and hyper offense and a set up tank all at once

[azure ether]

Does the team crumble to prankster?

[bold geode]

Uhhhhhhhh
Not that I'm aware of

Never had problems in that department

[polar canyon]

It's funny that I'm studying discrete maths rn and now I'm realizing stuff like

Hey that's how evs in pokemon are calculated

[bold geode]

Right here, take a swing bitch

[polar canyon]

It's fun learning how things I like work

[calm gulch]

you better start ducking mf

[azure ether]

Alright I'll try to bring this team glory to locals

[bold geode]

Hey lemme know what happens, good luck to ya

[bold geode]

Bro that reminds me
Did you see that news about the Wonder Pets?

They killed the fucking duck and the turtle

[polar canyon]

Does arch usually have high speed?

Can't believe they mad expanding force a tm again but not rising voltage

[chrome knot]

Raging Bolts signature move

[calm gulch]

dude i saw wtf

[bold geode]

WHERE'S THE FUCKING DUCK

[craggy dagger]

alolan raichu in gen 8-

[chrome knot]

no?

[craggy dagger]

p sur yeah

[chrome knot]

luxray in DAs had it cx

[tiny karma]

[gen8] Raichu-Alola

Rising Voltage:

• As Raichu-Alola from a tutor
• As Pikachu from a tutor

Sableye version 4.28.1

[craggy dagger]

see

wym no????

i ran surge surfer rising voltage before

[chrome knot]

i mean it wasn’t a signature move before gen 9!!!

[craggy dagger]

ah

[polar canyon]

Bro no way it's the user that has to be grounded for electric terrain to boost moves and it's not the same as psychic terrain

I wanted to use rotom wash and pincurchin

But rotom levitates

[chrome knot]

you can’t use rising voltage this format anyways

[polar canyon]

Yeah

[chrome knot]

ty helping cook btw im prob lockin that shit in asap its so good @craggy dagger

[gentle crag]

setsumizi has given 1 Gen Rep to interstellar_latte

[craggy dagger]

[polar canyon]

Can't believe I didn't note down my setup sinistcha set

I can't remember if it was double stab or had strength sap protect matcha gotcha

Or scald

I think it was a set that lives ghold shadow ball

And outspeeds something? in tailwind

@bold geode hi

Are people still using jolly incin

I should probably make sinistcha outspeed common speed investments for incineroar

[bold geode]

Hello
Also I don't think they are?

I've actually seen some people use Adamant on it lmao

[polar canyon]

It's been a while since I've been here

[polar canyon]

Yeah I'm actually building with it right now

It ohkos ghold

116+

Fastest I'm seeing on munchstats is 52 ev

It's funny how even after "falling off" incineroar just went from top 1 usage to top 5 usage

[polar canyon]

Has anything big happened lately other than the leaks or is everything chill?

I haven't been keeping up with tournaments either

Any team with a weird but surprisingly functional pokemon that placed high in a regional or something

I heard something about a hypno

[dull ibex]

I asked my friend

he doesnt know his playstyle or know if he has mon preferences

so my assumption was correct

[bold geode]

Just look through the regionals on Victory Road and see for yourself lol

[bold geode]

Has he played any other like competitive or strategy games before

[dull ibex]

is arch good under tr

[dull ibex]

I dont think so

Archaludon @ Assault Vest
Ability: Stamina
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 212 HP / 12 Def / 44 SpA / 228 SpD / 12 Spe
Modest Nature

• Flash Cannon
• Body Press
• Electro Shot
• Draco Meteor

no spread

[bold geode]

If he has, ask if he prefers faster or slower pace when doing those
Should literally tell you what will work

[dull ibex]

I already gave him the tr we good I think

ill give him the rundown of how it works whenever he gets back to me

[torn parrot]

🫵 😳

[cerulean rose]

Anyone want to battle?

[dull ibex]

Singles or doubles

[cerulean rose]

Hey I found a battle now 😅

U want to add me tho?

[dull ibex]

No

I don't add people on anything

[plain drum]

Rillaboom mid

[bold geode]

Me omw to choke out Eni

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/jojos-bizarre-adventures-jjba-jotaro-kujo-zoom-in-glare-gif-15954423

[tiny peak]

Is there a way to get hisuian sneasler in the ball you want in violet? Cause mine is just the one you get when transferring from arceus

[plain drum]

Sneasel has a H. base so I’d imagine you ball breed and then send it back to evolve

[molten oasis]

You have to breed for it I think

If you even can cuz idk if you can

[dull haven]

You do, I linked the graphic and pinged them in breeding channel

[plain drum]

I’m mart

[tiny peak]

I think the sneasler has to have the ball already to breed it down right, but that seems impossible cause you can't breed in arceus, and you are stuck with that past to future ball?

[plain drum]

If you just have PLA then you’d be screwed, otherwise no

Khuja got you a graphic up in breeding

[tiny peak]

Ok I'll take a look

[plain drum]

[dull haven]

[tiny peak]

Is there a chart that shows like for example how many ivs decent equals to and stuff cause I'm ev training and am trying to keep track of things

Trying to enter it in master dex so I can then ev train and stop when the stat matches

[next stump]

yes, the bulbapedia or serebii page describes that

look up the IV judge feature

[dull ibex]

trying set up sweepers again

[onyx cape]

im super new to competitve, which game do most people use for battles?

[next stump]

scarlet and violet are the only games that have an actively supported scene

[dull ibex]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2224530078-g5xoyos9gmjorczt3zfkbr532sryr1tpw

[lofty tartan]

We're going to Toronto, baybeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[molten oasis]

Good luck

[lofty tartan]

Actually gonna be my first time in Canada despite living in Maine xD

[spiral ridge]

goodluck emma and mika

[chrome knot]

its aight

cheap asf when ur american

[lofty tartan]

Good to know.

Now I gotta square away my passport and accommodations

Good luck, Emma. Catch you there 😄

[chrome knot]

for sure!! come say hi!!

[molten oasis]

You’re also going?

Good luck

[lofty tartan]

Yeah my wife cleared the funds for me lmfao

I wasn't going to have cash myself til tomorrow. The benefits of sharing everything, though

[chrome knot]

thanksies

[gentle crag]

setsumizi has given 1 Gen Rep to scottyboi7422

[spiral ridge]

youll do great

[balmy glen]

Emma did not remind me abt signups but I’m in

tsk tsk tsk

[chrome knot]

OOPS

i was too locked in for my own registration that i forgot

[lofty tartan]

Oh sweet I can save 50% of my plane ticket by flying out downstate instead of nearby 👀

[molten oasis]

Awesome, have fun

[lofty tartan]

250 bucks is way easier to swing than 500

[cyan smelt]

I need to book my flight to Perth

[lofty tartan]

Hopefully my roommate doesn't fracture his ankle this time and has to compete 9 rounds like that xD

[bold geode]

Meanwhile TCG dealing with piss chairs

[spiral ridge]

dw as an MTG player ill bring that glory to VGC

[lofty tartan]

The hell are you talking about Monke

I'm a hybrid MTG/PTCG/VGC player. Like a cyborg.

Beetleborgs

[bold geode]

Deadass like in Baltimore or somewhere else this season, there were literally chairs where someone pissed on

[lofty tartan]

Lol you should see the cities some of these events are held in xD

Not that surprising when you get to view what gets deposited on the sidewalk

[foggy lodge]

Why does this team has 4 tera flying lol https://pokepast.es/665eeb672d6cdab8

[lofty tartan]

So you can EQ next to something that was formerly weak to it without KO'ing your own mon, and 4 so they have options - presumably, of course xD

[chrome knot]

living 4 hours from toronto is coming clutch for me tbh

[lofty tartan]

I can imagine - you're costs are gonna be low low low.

I'm just happy to save half of my plane ticket xD

[chrome knot]

very but not for every other regional cx

[lofty tartan]

I bussed to Pittsburg. It was a nightmare.

We fly this time.

Frankly this is gonna be the closest Regional to me this year, unless the two unannounced Regionals are any closer. I can imagine it gets pretty tough for Canada, too

[craggy dagger]

i’m prolly screwed

[dull ibex]

ok team is mostly done again

[next stump]

I’m glad you get to go 🙂

[chrome knot]

tbh its either fly or drive 8 hours

drive to louisville was aight bc we picked up joe ugarte on our way so that was fun

[lofty tartan]

Thanks Dillon. Honestly it's cause my wife gave me the go-ahead. Nothing is ever real unless my partner is on board xD

[gentle crag]

dazedmika has given 1 Gen Rep to mlbd

[lofty tartan]

When I leave she has to shoulder all of the responsibility

[stoic wedge]

I’m trying to EV train Pokemon. How can I tell if an EV is at 0? Is sort of hard to tell with just the graph. Wish there was a numerical value I could read somewhere.

Will the line be totally empty? Or will the yellow always be somewhat on it?

[shadow wind]

Bazinga

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/big-bang-theory-sheldon-cooper-bazinga-ballpit-gif-3558458

[shadow wind]

Truly a bazinga

[next stump]

You have to use an online stat calculator like nerdofnow

[torn parrot]

"erectabuzzy"

[rare pumice]

am i correct in remembering that blaze is always preferred on infernape

[bold geode]

Basically
Though it's usually preferred to not run Infernape

[rare pumice]

i imagined as much i was just interested

[molten oasis]

wtf

[shadow wind]

So glad I’m ranked higher than “erectabuzzy” 🙏🙏

[torn parrot]

thats what ill name my next electabuzz

[molten oasis]

plz dont

[rustic mountain]

nd this is coming from the infernape guy

[chrome knot]

gc szn @rustic mountain

[rustic mountain]

[chrome knot]

wanna see paste

[shadow wind]

How every game feels in this dumb reg

[foggy lodge]

I guess i'll try Metagross

[torn parrot]

im hungy

it's time for alfredo

[chrome knot]

hi hungy im emily

[bold geode]

[shadow wind]

T200 once more !

[rare pumice]

is guts one of those abilities that was changed to be immune to intimidate

[shadow wind]

Nope

[rare pumice]

i guess that would be a bit too powerful

[shadow wind]

To my knowledge the only ones changed were; Scrappy, Inner Focus, Own Tempo, and Oblivious

[rare pumice]

i'm guessing conkeldurr isn't seeing much usage right now

[shadow wind]

Nah

He really is only useful with hard TR or a niche counterpick into the Ursas but that's about it

[rare pumice]

i'm just trying to find an interesting fighting type to use in doubles, i'm thinking maybe hariyama for bullet punch but i'm not sure yet

[shadow wind]

Hariyama is cool

I'm guess Trick room?

[rare pumice]

i'm just trying to think of ways for it to get around incineroar somehow for right now

[shadow wind]

Annihilape is always good

[rare pumice]

yeah i guess a good old defiant user is nice

[shadow wind]

Flamigo also works due to Scrappy

Can also act as a good support mon with access to tailwind and wide guard

[rare pumice]

i like flamigo but i don't think i'm good enough at battling to use it effectively honestly

[shadow wind]

That's fair

For ease of use, probably Annihilape

Can work on so many teams and is very strong

[rare pumice]

i'm just wondering if taunt or rest is the better option honestly

taunt can be pretty good for shutting down amoongus at any rate

[shadow wind]

Rest?

Don't normally see rest ever, unless it's the odd rest Dozo

The normal Ape set is usually bulk up with drain punch and rage fist

[rare pumice]

yeah i think i'll use taunt to shut down trick room users then that's gonna be pretty important

him being a ghost type making him immune to fake out will definitely make things very useful at the very least

[shadow wind]

Exactly

[rare pumice]

it might be kind of weird sounding but i think i like the idea of volbeat as a prankster tailwind setter since it gets encore and u-turn

as well as helping hand

[torn parrot]

attention

max speed gholdengo is the way

ill never leave home without max speed again

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2224713471-dt6owtjrau5p2qjrsbq3mhmoyrlb8sppw

a special shout out to furret for telling me that ape has leftovers and grimmsnarl has light clay

thanks buddy

[molten oasis]

if i play again this reg i think i wanna play typhlosion stuff

it looks fun

[torn parrot]

typhlosion does seem really fun

[rare pumice]

i think i may have just found my counter to archaludon

[shadow wind]

Interesting account above me here

Who's that I wonder?

[rare pumice]

nvm i was using wrong number calcs back to the drawing board

[shadow wind]

Sharpness Sacred Sword Gallade usually OHKOs

[rare pumice]

are stealth rocks common in 4v4 formats i feel like trap moves are kind of a bad idea for such quick battles

[shadow wind]

Hazards are only used very rarely and it's usually only toxic spikes from Toxic Debris

Almost no self setting

[rare pumice]

are there any banned moves in the current format i can't recall if moves tend to get banned in ranked battles

[shadow wind]

Dark void

And I think that's it, not even really banned either

Just fails

[rare pumice]

very interesting

i'm wondering if a perish song altaria would be a good endgame pokemon

[shadow wind]

Perish song is usually pretty good endgame

Pretty hard to use though

But if you can get your opponent down to 2 pokemon and use perish song

You've pretty much won

[rare pumice]

i'm guessing protect and perish song pretty much go hand in hand then

[shadow wind]

Yup yup

And abilities like Arena Trap and Shadow Tag

But those are very hard to utilize well

[molten oasis]

i mean

primarina gets perish song

thats an option

[shadow wind]

And what's cool with Primarina's is that it's water type !!

[rare pumice]

i guess that's an interesting idea but i'm not sure if i want to given the prevelance of rillaboom and electro shot though

[shadow wind]

Very valid

[rare pumice]

woaah shiftry could be a cool tailwind user actually i think since it gets fake out as well

shiftry and annihilape duo i must think more on this

being immune to heat wave, icy wind, and hurricane could be interesting too

[shadow wind]

Usually Shiftry is paired with something like Whimsicott

[strange fjord]

which means Pokemon with Water Absorb or Dry Skin are immune and actually heal instead.

[rare pumice]

yeah i changed my mind starting with shiftry and annihilape would be an awful start against incineroar

[shadow wind]

Mhm

[strange fjord]

think that's the only difference for being a water move

[shadow wind]

Not really, get a +1 on ape turn 1

[shadow wind]

I believe so too

[rare pumice]

bulky dragonite might be a good tailwind user

[strange fjord]

also gets Haze for the silly dozo

but tailwind with multiscale is a nice option

or even inner focus to prevent flinch

[rare pumice]

i'm also wondering if driblim is a good tailwind option since it's immune to both of ursaluna's stabs

plus destiny bond would make getting to the perish song endgame easier

[strange fjord]

its okay but Ursaluna might not be the Pokemon to watch out for. Just hard hitting Pokemon in general. Like Gholdengo, Archaludon and Dragapult

like you dont want to have a solution for Ursaluna, have a solution for Physical attackers.

[rare pumice]

i guess that's just another reason incineroar is so popular

[strange fjord]

Yeah it can do a good knock off, FO, parting shot into a lot of Pokemon

other Tailwind Pokemon are fast enough/have ability to make sure Tailwind is set up

[rare pumice]

alright i have a new idea

impish corviknight can outspeed incineroar, get tailwind up, and resists make it rain

[strange fjord]

Corviknight is a good Pokemon. Careful of the occasion Typhlosion Sun teams and you should be fine

[rare pumice]

cloud nine altaria might come in handy for those then

[strange fjord]

Gets Perish, Tailwind and Haze

[rare pumice]

i can't run haze without stepping on annihilape i'm not sure if that's the direction i want to go

though i guess it's worth having incase of dondozo

[strange fjord]

You dont need a dozo counter, you just need a way to fight a 2v1 raid boss. Perish isnt bad either since they gotta rush to do damage in 3 turns

[rare pumice]

i guess i just gotta find a good check/counter for goldengo and dragapult then

eviolite bisharp i am like 90 percent convinced that's what i need to do

[strange fjord]

Kingambit itself isnt too bad either

[rare pumice]

i think i just like using bisharp more for some reason

[strange fjord]

more bulk, less damage output. trade off for the smaller guy

[rare pumice]

i guess i'll consider kingambit then but idk

o nvm kingambit almost has double hp i choose kingambit

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 983: Kingambit

Types

Dark/Steel

Abilities

Defiant, Supreme Overlord, Pressure (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/135/120/60/85/50

Total

550

Sableye version 4.28.1

Pokémon No. 625: Bisharp

Types

Dark/Steel

Abilities

Defiant, Inner Focus, Pressure (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

65/125/100/60/70/70

Total

490

Sableye version 4.28.1

[rare pumice]

i considered using low kick on kingambit as a way to possibly deal with archaludon and apparently archaludon is like way lighter than it looks

[strange fjord]

low kick is good against TTar and Ursaluna

and Incin

[rare pumice]

do you think it would be ok to rely on sucker punch as the only dark type move then to make room for swords dance or does that sound too risky

[strange fjord]

probably want Kotow Cleave as well as sucker

[rare pumice]

wouldn't i want iron head too though or is there not really anything that threatens in the current meta

[strange fjord]

Kotow Cleave, Sucker Punch and Low Kick are probably the only move you really need on a Kingambit

SD and Protect in there as well

nothing in the meta really needs to be iron head over the other moves

no real fairies in the meta

besides the tera

[rare pumice]

i guess fairy skeledirge fell off then

i think i'll go for protect kowtow low kick and swords dance since i'll have some tailwind users

[strange fjord]

teambuilding is 30% theory crafting, 40% practicing and 30% post battle reflecting imo. Don't think every move has to be the way it is.

Remember to ask yourself "Do I really use X move/Pokemon and could a better move/Pokemon take its place?"

Same with teras

Keep track of what you're struggling against and what moves and teras you never click

[rare pumice]

i'm gonna add meowscarada for fun and to better handle water types and ursaluna

meowscarada is a nice rillaboom check too

[torn parrot]

and even that's been run dry

sorta

actually tbh

has it i dont know

gholdengo sneasler archaludon and kingambit are so aperent

nobody even wants to be a fairy defensively anymore

[rare pumice]

alright i think i have a working team for the time being

[strange fjord]

also forces tera on Dozo otherwise

[torn parrot]

yeah thats really good

yeah FUCK YOU

[rare pumice]

i just tried out my workshopped team and my annihilape got one shot crit turn 1

[mighty stump]

Idk Iron Head has been pretty nice cause I still see Clefable and Prim

Plus it’s meant to hit shit that doesn’t just eat Dark moves for free

No Sucker Punch on SD Kingambit is troll though

[rare pumice]

i don't know why it didn't occur to me until just now but if i want to use perish song, i still need a third pokemon alive in the back that can survive the battle...

i just used fake out on a talonflame and it didn't flinch?

[cyan smelt]

covert cloak

[rare pumice]

it never occured to me that item protected from fake out that's insane

[cyan smelt]

protects from all secondary effects

[strange fjord]

No speed drop from Icy Wind, no flinch from Fake Out and no hax from Dire Claw. The wonders of Covert Cloak!

[cyan smelt]

no speed drop from eweb either

[torn parrot]

doesnt protect from rapid strike and wicked blow crits

[molten oasis]

doesn't count as a secondary effect

[torn parrot]

i guess not

[molten oasis]

close combat also doesn't count as one

[rare pumice]

i'm starting to like eject button gothitelle

[molten oasis]

???

[rare pumice]

it's a weird strategy but it seems to be working for some reason

[torn parrot]

why do you wanna eject goth

[rare pumice]

i could probably get a better choice but it gets fake out and since the opponent can't switch it's more likely to get hit

[molten oasis]

but then they can switch

[rare pumice]

i know it's just something i wanted to try out i guess

[knotty mirage]

I have question is the next reg will make us go back too 1 restricted again or will it finally allow the 2 restricted ?

[real prairie]

atm its Reg G again next

[knotty mirage]

Ah okay just afraid if they gonna pull off reg H but with paradox pokemon

[strange fjord]

sorta like reg f

[rare pumice]

i found a different eject button pokemon now and it makes me much happier

[random pecan]

how to build Meloetta?

[rare pumice]

throat spray hyper voice?

[random pecan]

[random pecan]

tbh, either that or maybe a mixed attacker

[solid frigate]

Throat Spray Hyper Voice Or Lorb is fine

but then again

its banned rn

[random pecan]

its always gonna be banned, but I want to use it against my brother

it does learn elemental punches

[real prairie]

https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/meloetta/

[random pecan]

saw it already

[real prairie]

no idea why that link defaulted to Sun and Moon

but you get the idea

[random pecan]

problem with its physical form is that you need to use relic song… a special move

maybe mixed attacker using life orb

Relic song
Psychic
Drain Punch/ Close Combat
Protect/ U-Turn

[strong pecan]

I need help guys

I need a Pokémon that fits this discription Duel type fully evo special attacker has extremely unique battle trait that is no longer uesed
just somehing niche

That is legel in Pokémon regulation H 2024

[real prairie]

Water compaction Pallosand

on a surf rain team maybe

[rare pumice]

does arboliva or frosmoth count

[cyan smelt]

i'm thinking bout changing my team up a bit, i kinda want to explore galarian weezing and gliscor, thoughts?

[mighty stump]

Together?

[cyan smelt]

yes

the idea is that gliscor still activates poison heal but the rest of the team is protected from status

[mighty stump]

Uhuh

Aside from that, what else

[cyan smelt]

thinking kingambit because it's really strong right now, and i need a water/electric type to deal with fire types and water types so i'm thinking wash rotom

[mighty stump]

No as in

What else does Gliscor add to GWeezing or vice versa

[wet wedge]

And today we learn how to flex good sportsmanship

[mighty stump]

Why Gliscor

[wet wedge]

(I still won but in a completely different fashion)

[cyan smelt]

resists both sneasler's main stabs, can't get status outside of misty terrain, deals with sneasler, decent into gambit, arch, incin and gholdengo and is also decent into ttar excadrill

and i really like it

[mighty stump]

Not sure about Incin since if you’re gonna use Poison Heal you don’t get Hyper Cutter. Justification for Sneasler is fine, but just keep in mind you don’t get the benefit of Dragon-type damage reduction since you’re not grounded cause Pult is still there even if GWeezing threatens. Not sure about the relevance into Sand. Everything else checks out. Good

[cyan smelt]

and g-weezing because prima wasn't performing well for me, need something that's still fairy but neutral into sneasler

also that's why gambit is there, to deter incin

and i don't want to have to tera in front of sneasler

[real prairie]

Should do this if someone missclicks at a real tourny, you would go viral on the comms 🤣

[cyan smelt]

and wash rotom can provide speed control with e-web

or discharge next to gliscor

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/earl-not-bad-eye-brow-gif-14525127

wonder if Gliscor would be good as a ground mon in rain team too 🤔

[cyan smelt]

might be

[real prairie]

i know lando usually fits well into rain teams, so could be a good alternative

[cyan smelt]

the moveset is what you need to think about though, i like SD on it and maybe high horsepower, gunk shot

or maybe flying stab is better

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2224852060

Froggy

[mighty stump]

Why not double down and go Tera Blast Fly lul

[cyan smelt]

yeah good point

like lando-lite

[wet wedge]

LOL fr

I probably would if either the game or the tournament/qualification phase were either already won or already lost tbh

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2224853771

A lot of Turns becomes very unesscesary

[polar canyon]

I think I wanna use the ability shield incineroar + weezing strat

That should actually work for annihilape too right?

[cyan smelt]

so far thinking geezing, gliscor, kingambit, rotom, h-decidueye, any ideas for a 6th?

[polar canyon]

No defiant and gets intimidated

What rotom?

[cyan smelt]

wash

[polar canyon]

And why geezing over weezing?

[cyan smelt]

misty surge

answer to sneasler

[polar canyon]

Why gliscor?

[cyan smelt]

because a) poison heal still applies in misty terrain, b) resists both sneasler's main stabs and can threaten it with SE damage, either high horsepower or tera blast flying and c) can potentially use discharge with rotom-w next to it

and i'm thinking sludge wave on geezing so i can use it next to gambit and gliscor

[polar canyon]

Oh yeah

[cyan smelt]

and rotom will be tera steel so i can use it next to that as well

[polar canyon]

It applies because it's flying not because of any weird specific mechanic

[cyan smelt]

tera steel + immune to eq is nice

[polar canyon]

Also your rotom won't be safe from sneasler just because of weezing either

Since it levitates

[cyan smelt]

oh yeah

well will just lead gliscor into that

[polar canyon]

Iron ball rotom

[cyan smelt]

nah

[polar canyon]

Would be crazy

[solid frigate]

omg why is campfire and Kalos's Pfp looks so damn similar lmao

[polar canyon]

What

Have you looked at it

[cyan smelt]

idk what to add for a 6th

a redirector ig

i'm just gonna add magmar

[polar canyon]

I was waiting for you to use water shuriken on your archa to trigger stamina multiple times

[cyan smelt]

yeah that's what i expected too

[chrome knot]

@cyan smelt do you have a diancie in game..

[cyan smelt]

nope, only from pogo

[chrome knot]

rats

i need one for smeargleeee

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 648: Meloetta

Types

Normal/Psychic

Abilities

Serene Grace

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/77/77/128/128/90

Total

600

Other Formes

Meloetta-Pirouette

Sableye version 4.28.1

Meloetta's moveset:

Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Brick Break, Close Combat, Drain Punch, Facade, Fire Punch, Fling, Focus Punch, Giga Impact, Ice Punch, Knock Off, Low Kick, Low Sweep, Play Rough, Quick Attack, Reversal, Shadow Claw, Stone Edge, Thunder Punch, Triple Axel, U-turn, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Alluring Voice, Confusion, Dazzling Gleam, Disarming Voice, Echoed Voice, Energy Ball, Focus Blast, Grass Knot, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Psybeam, Psychic, Psyshock, Relic Song, Round, Shadow Ball, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt

Status Moves

Baton Pass, Calm Mind, Charm, Coaching, Endure, Fake Tears, Gravity, Helping Hand, Light Screen, Metronome, Perish Song, Protect, Psych Up, Rain Dance, Rest, Role Play, Sing, Skill Swap, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swords Dance, Teeter Dance, Thunder Wave, Trick, Trick Room

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Meloetta.

Sableye version 4.28.1

Pokémon No. 648: Meloetta-Pirouette

Types

Normal/Fighting

Abilities

Serene Grace

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/128/90/77/77/128

Total

600

Base Species

Meloetta

Sableye version 4.28.1

Ability: Serene Grace

This Pokemon's moves have their secondary effect chance doubled. This effect stacks with the Rainbow effect, except for secondary effects that cause the target to flinch.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[solid frigate]

Follow Me lmao

i was expecting Follow Me

[tiny karma]

Move: Fire Punch

Has a 10% chance to burn the target.

Type

Fire

Category

Physical

Power

75

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Punch

Boosted by Iron Fist.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[polar canyon]

https://pokepast.es/a3c19826babf2dcc
my masterpiece

I haven't done this in a long time

It's terrible

Thinking about it I should just use haze dragonite since that's also a dozo answer

[cyan smelt]

rotom-wash gang

[chrome knot]

not even gonna ask what they dragonite does

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 1000: Gholdengo

Types

Steel/Ghost

Abilities

Good as Gold

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

87/60/95/133/91/84

Total

550

Sableye version 4.28.1

Pokémon No. 1000: Gholdengo

Types

Steel/Ghost

Abilities

Good as Gold

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

87/60/95/133/91/84

Total

550

Sableye version 4.28.1

[random pecan]

lag

[chrome knot]

Meloetta @ Throat Spray  
Ability: Serene Grace  
Level: 50  
Tera Type: Stellar  
EVs: 252 HP / 100 Def / 92 SpA / 4 SpD / 60 Spe  
Modest Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Hyper Voice  
- Psychic  
- Shadow Ball  
- Protect

@random pecan

[random pecan]

I will try it out

[chrome knot]

okie

[random pecan]

will tell you how it is once I tried against some friends

[cyan smelt]

gl kenni

[random pecan]

@pearl wind wanna test it tonight?

[pearl wind]

oki

[random pecan]

what if I use your Gholdengo against you?

[cyan smelt]

that's cheating

[solid frigate]

ok thats just cope

[cyan smelt]

moment

[real prairie]

just seen a Tera Rock Gholdengo in a sandstorm team ... im intrigued

[cyan smelt]

interesting

[real prairie]

guess makes it bulkier

also wasn't aware sandstorm nerfs solar beam/blade

not that i'm running them, but interesting to know

[pearl wind]

sure

[random pecan]

My team is… meh at best

[shadow wind]

The biggest part about playing well in my opinion is confidence

[random pecan]

its luck

but confidence is important

[shadow wind]

Luck for the most part can be worked around

But if you don’t believe in your team then you’ll struggle

[cyan smelt]

I believe in gliscor and geezing

[shadow wind]

Those are both cool mons

[solid frigate]

Confidence,Game Plan,Practice and Reevaluate between Games

[cyan smelt]

And hopefully I can make rotom W work

[polar canyon]

Playing weezing is hilarious I should've been doing this forever ago

You just get to say no to your opponents plan

No rain no defiant no terrain + grassy/psychic seed no priority immunity

[real prairie]

"never underestimate the predictability of stupidity" https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2224950613-j1762ex1jphryqjn6xf8nwhikiagd7ypw

[cyan smelt]

oooh i should use hisuian electrode instead of rotom

[polar canyon]

no you shouldn't

[cyan smelt]

why not

[polar canyon]

what

why would you

[cyan smelt]

faster eweb than rotom

[bold geode]

Holy shit, I'll never know your pain

[real prairie]

Rotom levitate >

[polar canyon]

You're using rotom for webs?

[solid frigate]

lol

[cyan smelt]

well no, i was thinking discharge spam next to gliscor

[polar canyon]

Electrode is both frail and hits like a wet noodle

All it has is speed

[cyan smelt]

rotom is frail too

[solid frigate]

Choice Band Explosion /j

[cyan smelt]

actually should i go eelektross over rotom

[real prairie]

dont think ive ever played better than this lol

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2224963831-yl32b9bfyzbkwgty5dh7qnxn9i5answpw

[cyan smelt]

why do people click spread moves in front of a wide guard user

[mighty stump]

Because just because you have Wide Guard doesn’t mean you auto win against Spread moves if you get pinned into clicking it

[cyan smelt]

that's the problem with zama

[mighty stump]

If you’re gonna be punished for not clicking Wide Guard against a Spread move: You’re in a sucky position

Unless you can respond in that turn

So people who have nothing to lose can still spam Spread moves

And you end up playing yourself

[cyan smelt]

ig you're relying on the partner to pick up the slack

[mighty stump]

And that’s what a lot of people don’t realise and then complain about their opp being dumdums

[chrome knot]

tofuuuuu

wanna see gc part 2 team :3

[cyan smelt]

this is why i'm a fan of weather ball on torkoal

[torn parrot]

the classic "i lost because they played bad and I'm just the best but for some reason they won even though they're way worse than me"

okay that doesnt really apply

but im tired of hearing it

[cyan smelt]

bad players blame their opponent being good rather than looking at what plays they made that led to the loss

[torn parrot]

"lucky losers get rewarded while i play every turn perfectly like a god"

[cyan smelt]

i bop

[gentle crag]

[real prairie]

So i play that well or no?

[cyan smelt]

you made good predictions

[real prairie]

i mean, somewhat calculated. Took a protect turn and put me down to my sash to see what he would click into with Gallade tbh thought he would double into my Pelliper knowing wideguard was a problem