eviolite def the item for clefairy no other choice really
#competitive_discussion
rustic mountain
bold geode
Btw you just reminded me to check Rilla HP but you'd have to go a bit below max HP to do so
Like if it's divisible by 16 you're looking at fuckin highest mark is 192 HP
foggy lodge
ironic how Clefairy is better when legendary pokemon are around lol
molten oasis
lilikoal mu is fucking miserable
bold geode
So like is it really that worth lmao
rustic mountain
yea i feel like no i usually like more hp on my rilla but ig it depends
bold geode
But like I'll share fuck it
https://pokepast.es/528339a8a4d86718
Here's my "optimization" for a version of Magmar balance
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
gusty flint
So , what I did with my clefairy was
Follow me
Sing
Reflect
Protect
Max def max spdef 4hp
any thoughts on it (and ofc with the eviolite)
bold geode
Keep in mind I'm optimizing for what I like and issues I have with the popular one going around rn
rustic mountain
what are the optimizations other then sitrus proc on prim
craggy dagger
i need to read properly 
foggy lodge
i don't remember the set i used for Clefairy uhhh
i think i used moonblast to chip and not be useless after a taunt
rustic mountain
reflect seems weird unless ur really trynna mitigate physical damage
foggy lodge
you could use Moonblast instead of reflect
foggy lodge
reflect seems weird unless ur really trynna mitigate physical damage
its too slow to click it comfortably
gusty flint
you could use Moonblast instead of reflect
Ok thx a lot I’ll definitely go and change
gentle cragBOT
Ok thx a lot I’ll definitely go and change
khhgdon has given 1 Gen Rep to maxihd
bold geode
what are the optimizations other then sitrus proc on prim
Other problems I personally have with the original team
Fire Tera on Kingambit to resist Sun stuff and to dodge Wisp, Taunt on Sneasler cuz I don't care about Fake Out too much and every other move felt ass, have Rilla as more utility (was that before), and just other small tweaks
spiral ridge
Oh I didn’t see this either lmao
bold geode
Oh Tera Steel Blast on Pult cuz even with Sneasler being walled by Fairies fucking sucked
rustic mountain
Other problems I personally have with the original team
Fire Tera on Kingambit ...
ahhh ok gotcha
interesting lmk how it works for u
molten oasis
the team might be fine? idk, definitely going on the backfoot for a bit lol
bold geode
So far so good, the only one I've been sorta tweaking more regularly was Prim and Magmar, the changes I made to the other 4 clicked like fucking immediately
foggy lodge
should i consider a tool into Talon Chomp MU?
rustic mountain
y 12 speed on magmar
rustic mountain
oh nvm
gusty flint
I was thinking of pushing rank but I don’t really know how to get far as I kept on losing after a few wins.Could anyone give me tips on teambuilding
rustic mountain
i think im mixed em up yea but also why 44 speed
im not sure i get why u care about speed for it
foggy lodge
I was thinking of pushing rank but I don’t really know how to get far as I kept ...
i think its better to start using rental teams
bold geode
It's a spread I took from the MDB version running around
44 EVs let's it outspeed most Rillaboom, 12 Spatk and Modest basically let it 37.5% roll a KO on Kingambit and can take out Gholdengo iirc
I had a spread with 12 Spdef Calm and 4 spatk EVs, but I noticed his spread hit the benchmarks I was hitting anyways so
rustic mountain
get better before teambuilding is my advice. too many ppl wanna skip the steps needed to teambuild and the reality is most players arent good teambuilders
bold geode
Just like less Spdef bulk, but Magmar and Buzz don't struggle with that as much anyways
rustic mountain
It's a spread I took from the MDB version running around
44 EVs let's it outspee...
oh wow was not expecting that. cool
bold geode
Yeah EU runs the same shit lmao
craggy dagger
someone help me understand wtf just happened
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2216608397
rustic mountain
cuz i was def gna ask the sp atk investment as well
bold geode
Plus even if you can build, if you can't execute that shit then yeah
molten oasis
i dont even know what im fighting anymore this ladder is so weird
rustic mountain
ahh ok
molten oasis
like its being carried by incin
rustic mountain
what range r u in
molten oasis
and i cant do shit about it, 1350
spiral ridge
someone help me understand wtf just happened
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com...
Weakness policy ttar-
rustic mountain
oh ok yea thats why haha i wouldnt worry too much on the super wacky stuff, if u see it again u know wat to expect
rustic mountain
def cant shift ur team to account for fuckin topsy turvy malamar, u should have the tools to deal w/ those kinda teams tho
molten oasis
def cant shift ur team to account for fuckin topsy turvy malamar, u should have ...
incin kinda ruined half my gameplans
and gambit was in position to do work then i got topsy turvied soo
rustic mountain
sd gambit feels kinda clunky with chomp a9
that comp has av gambit on it
the most successful ones atleast
https://pokepast.es/72b0532a1e626ced
https://pokepast.es/2884d240bc51add5
1st and 2nd place joinville teams
molten oasis
lets go a9 hit blizzard through not snow lol
yea thats, theyre the same set of 6
the set of 6 is fine, i dont like the dnite
but there's like hardly a point in trying to replace it tbh
foggy lodge
everytime i see the team the EQ on Chomp feels weird
rustic mountain
dnites goodge 
foggy lodge
Dnite broken on this reg
rustic mountain
also its the same 6 but they opted for different chomp and a9 sets
solid frigate
dnites goodge <:Budgetkekhands:815438617630867477>
ah yes
Goodge
rustic mountain
molten oasis
only successful thing being that set of 6, mm
https://pokepast.es/d750700b2b5d3526 there's really no other way to get these 3 on a different set of 6
im trying to get my own thing going, mirrors suck, and i feel like i put way less effort into teams with prestablished sets of 6
and im not talking changing sets
the trial and error begins ig
bold geode
https://pokepast.es/d750700b2b5d3526 there's really no other way to get these 3 ...
Kingambit moveset
bold geode
In one game yesterday I missed a wisp, missed an overheat, then had the same Magmar get frozen for 6 turns straight after
dull ibex
PLEASE tell me someone is watching wolfe
oh my GOD!
I had no idea that sheer cold hits a phantom forced pult
spiral ridge
What
molten oasis
im not watching today's stream lol
foggy lodge
i found someone playing the hard Trick room from reg G but with Dragapult for some reason lol https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reghbo3-2216638686-3456rhzwjxpf9l29v1d4w06facyi54gpw
im dumb too in turn 3 i should have just nasty plot again
spiral ridge
No I understood just
What
dull ibex
ye
spiral ridge
That works 
dull ibex
for wolfe yes
atomic mural
That works <:KEKWCRY:1166242454505259059>
It’s because no guard skill swap
torn parrot
Hi
spiral ridge
Yo
torn parrot
In one game yesterday I missed a wisp, missed an overheat, then had the same Mag...
Doesn’t overheat thaw you
Nope
Just checked
rustic mountain
ud think
i feel like one thing to add for freeze is any fire move unthaws not jus specific ones
tho freeze in general could use a revamp
spiral ridge
Flare blitz incin becomes even better
torn parrot
Yes please do that, that’s the nerf freeze needs
rustic mountain
i thought frostbite in pla was a good change a shame they didnt keep it
spiral ridge
What was it?
torn parrot
i thought frostbite in pla was a good change a shame they didnt keep it
Well they made this game while pla was being made so maybe next gen
rustic mountain
What was it?
basically burn for sp atkers
torn parrot
Freeze is just straight up unfair
spiral ridge
I like. Have only dealt with freeze 1-3 times but it’s idea is unfair yeah
rustic mountain
That woulda made flutter scene different
y its not like theres been that many good ice types relevant in past formats, if anything itd give bundle some added benefit
rustic mountain
issue w/ freeze is that its not straight up
spiral ridge
Yeah it’s hard to get
rustic mountain
u know wat ur getting out of getting slept (generally) wispd or parad
freeze its like a turn or yea ur mons jus frozen till it dies
spiral ridge
y its not like theres been that many good ice types relevant in past formats, if...
Honestly just first big special attacker I thought of
Maybe coulda changed viability in early reg and made bundle ever better as flutter was quite prevalent early regulations as pure damage
rustic mountain
i jus mean like, especially early formats ice wasnt common enough even as a move for freeze to even be an impact. bundle would the earliest i could think of
abomasnow had like 1 placement early sv iirc
spiral ridge
Abomasnow my goat
rustic mountain
love abomansow
rustic mountain
sucks its jus not good often
spiral ridge
Fire type is like always prevalent is a big downside
rustic mountain
tera helped but then after awhile its like u want that to be ur tera hog?
spiral ridge
yeah
I do what about it
Nah but it just. Isn’t allat to justify its downsides and resources needed
spiral ridge
Yes
torn parrot
Obama is my favorite Pokémon
solid frigate
torn parrot
Why are people writing off palafin
dull ibex
molten oasis
Why are people writing off palafin
Cuz it’s mid
The strategy of palafin is pretty linear
Unless you wanted to redeem it I dont see it doing too hot
You have to spend 3 turns to get it set up
Get it on the field in baby form, get it off the field, then get it back on the field
I could see it maybe being ok with incin since you could switch out t1 then parting shot it back in
torn parrot
I think it’s like
It’s strength is undeniable
I guess it’s just inconvenience for people
molten oasis
The team has to based around it
And when we now have basculegion, snd rillaboom making its life miserable, it’s just not too great
Well, honestly maybe it’s okay with incin
torn parrot
Hmm
Although it does sound really fun to play
Sounds like a slaking without needing a weezing
rustic mountain
The strategy of palafin is pretty linear
idk if its necessarily the linear aspect for palafin. plenty of games ive led it and didnt switch immediately or brought it in the back. i think its more the cost of having to switch out to activate and the momentum u lose wen ur inevitably forced to do so. even w/ a lower power lvl the format favors more immediate damage
definitely one of more surprising fall offs id say thought its understandable why
solid frigate
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2216700092-wvfmraf5ur9tz36rsok35puh8soy98ypw
Wtf is that Pult and why is Hypno here
rustic mountain
some1 did well w/ hypno at an irl reg h tour i forget which i think baltimore
rustic mountain
but is it this set
absolutely not haha it was imprison stuff
for psyspam
wolfey 7-0 w/ some weird perish trap team 
rustic mountain
yea idk if many players r goin 7-0 w/ that team even for a random limitless tour
molten oasis
wolfey 7-0 w/ some weird perish trap team <:PB_shock:744998229984280628>
Yippee
rustic mountain
get ready to face it on ladder wen he releases the team on his patreon
rustic mountain
geodude for that is hilarious
molten oasis
Fr
smoky hawk
bold geode
Actually
@rustic mountain Y'know what makes me mad
solid frigate
i think its alr
And i think i'm gonna see loads of Lapras if wolfey won that tournament-
bold geode
So when MDB did his video over the Magmar team right
He said his Primarina which is at 88 speed was invested to outspeed other Prim right
rustic mountain
now everyones outspeeding that
bold geode
It makes me mad cuz the other day I calced a speed for my Prim on a Buzz variant I have and deadass
That shit was at 87 
rustic mountain
bold geode
Literally was like "this speed is perfect" then I was like ah nvm he outdone me 
rustic mountain
u got got
bold geode
I got got before I even tested lmao
balmy glen
So when MDB did his video over the Magmar team right
He said his Primarina which...
That’s almost how much invest I put into mine
solid frigate
Literally was like "this speed is perfect" then I was like ah nvm he outdone me ...
How to be screwed up by players with better speed lol
rustic mountain
I got got before I even tested lmao
bold geode
That’s almost how much invest I put into mine
What speed was yours?
I mean tbf I wasn't that mad cuz I only did it cuz of Lorb spread, I wanted it to actually match with speed control
On Magmar variant I literally just have 4 EVs lol
balmy glen
What speed was yours?
91
bold geode
That's a decent amount
balmy glen
Didn’t get outsped by other Prims everyone is just making there’s super bulky
bold geode
Yeah on my Sitrus Prim I did 4 just cuz I was focusing on just living hits
Lorb I wanted to match my speed control which is why I went to 87
balmy glen
Also mine was 91 because I had my ttar at 90 and wanted to be able to haze knock off some mus
bold geode
Yeah I made mine super bulky or actually a healthy mix
What you say is better?
solid frigate
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9randomdoublesbattle-2216719030
This is not VGC Related but he got humbled
bold geode
Do you think faster or more bulk is better
balmy glen
Yeah I made mine super bulky or actually a healthy mix
What you say is better?
Spreads are dependent on the team imo I’m not a fan of making individual spreads I make mine different for every team variant
Like if I’m TW I’d go faster
If I have Buzz over Magmar with electroweb calcs I’d calc for webs speed tier etc
bold geode
Right that's fair
Yeah that's what I did with 87
One EWeb outspeeds Timid Peli and 2 let's it outspeed Adamant Poison Touch Sneasler
Both are creeps
Not that Timid Peli was really a starting benchmark, was really on the Sneasler one
Timid Peli was just like a lucky addon
rustic mountain
not bad to hit even w. it dropping in useage
real prairie
Been out for a Bday meal, been informed im going to be an uncle, what a way to steal my spotlight 🤣 i miss anything exciting?
rustic mountain
wolfey perish trap team
solid frigate
Skill Swap No Guard
rustic mountain
that also has skill swap bronzong w/ no guard golurk and switch it onto lapras using sheer cold
real prairie
thats ridiculous, even for Wolfe
solid frigate
and Sheer Cold bypasses Mid Phantom Force
rustic mountain
nah wolfey has used plenty of weird teams/mons this isnt that crazy
real prairie
i was being disingenuous but fair
solid frigate
but at least we know Sheer Cold bypassesMid Phantom force
real prairie
is there a regional this weekend hes doing it at then?
solid frigate
i don't think he is using that team for regionals
1.everyone would try to counter it
2. its not gonna be winning every match
craggy dagger
that also has skill swap bronzong w/ no guard golurk and switch it onto lapras u...
…
about time someone else picked it up 
rustic mountain
u would have already run it
solid frigate
…
about time someone else picked it up <a:KeySmash:749095892220379147>
he did back in 2016 so its not new stuff
craggy dagger
u would have already run it
i did yes
rustic mountain
solid frigate
i kinda wanna do it but i just don't think i want to do it for SV
rustic mountain
he did back in 2016 so its not new stuff
skill swap no guard?
real prairie
even without the sheer cold element, im surprised "No guard" has been overlooked this reg
craggy dagger
has anyone looked into simple beam
craggy dagger
even without the sheer cold element, im surprised "No guard" has been overlooked...
the pokemon that have it are ehh
solid frigate
skill swap no guard?
just skill swap part
bold geode
I fought a Simple Beam Grumpig
I beat it's ass
molten oasis
has anyone looked into simple beam
Stop
craggy dagger
golurk is slow af-
lycan midnight is so meh
rustic mountain
oh yea skill swaps been around this speciifc one is hard to get off consistently tho
bold geode
The team does have TR
solid frigate
I fought a Simple Beam Grumpig
I beat it's ass
same as well
its fucking ASS
rustic mountain
gta skill swap twice before even getting it off
craggy dagger
or simple fake tears
molten oasis
…that’s not as bad
real prairie
has anyone looked into simple beam
better off just using Worry Seed Whims no?
molten oasis
Doesn’t taunt ruin that strategy
solid frigate
Doesn’t taunt ruin that strategy
CTS bullshit babeeeeee
craggy dagger
Doesn’t taunt ruin that strategy
aroma veil 
molten oasis
Ic
craggy dagger
but that’s a really stupid idea
rustic mountain
Doesn’t taunt ruin that strategy
consistent taunt yea, the bronzong is mental herb
if trs up u cant stop it necessarily
craggy dagger
i was thinking simple psyduck with alcremie 
molten oasis
Mm
solid frigate
aroma veil <:RobinShrug:1220551396693381220>
i almost misread Aurora Veil lol
rustic mountain
dude the fact wolfey won this game
molten oasis
Well, I’ll fight it and move on cuz it’s not like, a real team lol
solid frigate
dude the fact wolfey won this game
welp painful experience in showdown ladder time
bold geode
Brother is bullshiting this tour so hard
molten oasis
Fr
craggy dagger
welp painful experience in showdown ladder time
i’m so fucking ready
real prairie
dude the fact wolfey won this game
Glick Glick boom
craggy dagger
bring it on
yk that a perish song can mess up the entire strategy
perish protect to force swap
real prairie
why is no guard Golurk not used more as a TR sweeper? Dynamic punch goes Bbrrrrr
craggy dagger
cause when you switch the effects of skill swap wear off
bold geode
Yeah but he also has Perish Trap
solid frigate
yk that a perish song can mess up the entire strategy <:smile1:10125507099395400...
Can you protect yourself from Sheer Colds lol
real prairie
cause when you switch the effects of skill swap wear off
ignore the skill swap element
craggy dagger
Can you protect yourself from Sheer Colds lol
mhm
bold geode
Can you protect yourself from Sheer Colds lol
Idk it did hit a Pult while it was mid Phantom Force
true steeple
Went 3-2 on my first tournament today
bold geode
Pog
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
craggy dagger
also like
solid frigate
Idk it did hit a Pult while it was mid Phantom Force
yeah thats what i thought idk
solid frigate
if you bring an ice type you’re fine <:robin_wheeze:1283161599590400062>
lol
foggy lodge
Twitter
solid frigate
we are in a world where Delphox is actually good
spiral ridge
I gotta use them so bad
foggy lodge
Porygon2 is so fucking broken lol
craggy dagger
vivi
solid frigate
ping Emma for Vivi
craggy dagger
Porygon2 is so fucking broken lol
it lived through restricted ofc it can live through this reg
spiral ridge
Love vivi sleep champ :3
dense latch
we are in a world where Delphox is actually good
vivillon is crazier to me
craggy dagger
flamigo…??????
dense latch
flamigo…??????
scrappy is insane
foggy lodge
it lived through restricted ofc it can live through this reg
really?
spiral ridge
it’s here purely for ghol
craggy dagger
ohhh
foggy lodge
Cuz no one played P2 in reg G xd
spiral ridge
Well not purely but yah
solid frigate
vivillon is crazier to me
Vivi is basically worse Butterfree i think
real prairie
flamigo…??????
Scrappy
craggy dagger
but hidueye,,,,
solid frigate
Cuz no one played P2 in reg G xd
not really,they used a bit
foggy lodge
there was one team at a tour and in seniors with Koraidon Ursaluna Venusaur P2 but that's the only team i saw
craggy dagger
p2 is beefy
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
dense latch
but hidueye,,,,
slow but still decent
solid frigate
there was one team at a tour and in seniors with Koraidon Ursaluna Venusaur P2 b...
i saw lots tho
probably thats just me
foggy lodge
Farigiraf was better in reg G
foggy lodge
Now it is kinda niche and P2 is the one splashable lol
solid frigate
Farigiraf was better in reg G
hell its literally the main thing for Miraidon teams lol
foggy lodge
blocking priority is so good and has the TR mode with Iron Hands/Ursaluna Bloodmoon
spiral ridge
Novaaa wanna make me a delphox team with weird shit in it to try 
craggy dagger
lmao
solid frigate
Novaaa wanna make me a delphox team with weird shit in it to try <:PrayGrovyle:6...
honestly this format i'm not against people using Delphox
spiral ridge
I just want a delphox team but no time to make
craggy dagger
its good to see other starters asides from rilla incin making their appearances
spiral ridge
Yeah :)
solid frigate
its good to see other starters asides from rilla incin making their appearances
Hell let alone Kalos Starters
craggy dagger
ya
dense latch
yeah it's that or lorb imo
solid frigate
Delphox Fast Psyspam
Greninja on Peli Archa
Chesnaught...... ehhhh IDBP?
dense latch
i saw chesnaught in a moxieboosted video and that's basically it
not the worst starter tho, 'meganium exists
solid frigate
not the worst starter tho, 'meganium exists
i think its just Kalos Starters are just mid in general
(Coming from a Kalos Fan that hates Mega Evolution on comp)
craggy dagger
i mean
craggy dagger
mega pinsir was cool
real prairie
i had a nasty plot LO set Delphox
spiral ridge
I’m helping old people gamble :] (selling tickets at bingo)
rustic mountain
real prairie
i had a nasty plot LO set Delphox
lets you run overheat with less drawback
dense latch
I’m helping old people gamble :] (selling tickets at bingo)
good
solid frigate
https://tenor.com/view/aventurine-star-rail-i-love-gambling-roulette-gif-1560073...
why do you have to remind me to get him-
spiral ridge
Because I have him :)
solid frigate
Because I have him :)
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
craggy dagger
yeah
solid frigate
Cus didn’t get robin <a:meowthdead:1039720234275307561>
at least i have something
spiral ridge
Lmao yeah
solid frigate
i need to get Aven,Acheron and Whale E1S1 Ruan Mei
spiral ridge
Ima try for idek who
Maybe rappa but don’t wanna replace firefly :(
Ruan Mei could use LC
dense latch
i've never played genshin is it just gambling disguised as an RPG
solid frigate
Maybe rappa but don’t wanna replace firefly :(
I'm not replacing FF so
Easiest Skip alive
solid frigate
i've never played genshin is it just gambling disguised as an RPG
its Honkai Star Rail-
dense latch
oh
spiral ridge
Gacha are free two play games with micro transactions
solid frigate
i think the Gacha System is decent,it has some flaws but its fine
craggy dagger
I may get his LC
Got sparkles for my fua team
but rappa
solid frigate
no
craggy dagger
wtf you mean no
spiral ridge
Maybe just ask you to use your luck and get them all :3
solid frigate
i still belive in FF and i can't back out cuz i fully invested on FF
solid frigate
Maybe just ask you to use your luck and get them all :3
Me with Aventurine and Acheron:
spiral ridge
My FF relics are so good besides planar
solid frigate
My FF relics are so good besides planar
My FF relic is fine
Somehow i am not aiming for Speed lol
spiral ridge
Both firefly and HTB are at like 230 BE%
solid frigate
what is FF
craggy dagger
i still belive in FF and i can't back out cuz i fully invested on FF
ah
solid frigate
FF is a short form of Firefly in HSR
craggy dagger
pure fiction firefly is copium
foggy lodge
oh okay
solid frigate
pure fiction firefly is copium
truly(I used her in Pure Fiction lol)
spiral ridge
She’s not bad is she?
I haven’t touched it yet no time
PF fucks me up cus no himeko
solid frigate
She’s not bad is she?
T1.5
Eh decent
spiral ridge
One day himeherta
One day
solid frigate
MOC 10 is my strongest rn,Apoc is 4
Pure Fiction is my weakest endgame mode
solid frigate
One day himeherta
One day
Me with Jade Herta-
craggy dagger
<:AzuSip:692907108127211551>
solid frigate
I got bailu off jade :(
i got Bailu but its E0
Still good tho
AUGH IF I PULL FOR RUAN MEI 10 MORE TIMES I CAN GET HER CUZ MY JADE COME HOME IMMEDIEATLY-
spiral ridge
<:LappWorried:638882143061147648>
:3
spiral ridge
i got Bailu but its E0
Still good tho
AUGH IF I PULL FOR RUAN MEI 10 MORE TIME...
Bailu was my second or first standard
solid frigate
Bailu was my second or first standard
its my first Standard,Clara is my second and Bronya is my third
gentle cragBOT
its my first Standard,Clara is my second and Bronya is my third
morrispxg456 has given 1 Gen Rep to scottyboi7422
solid frigate
the fu-
spiral ridge
I think yanqing was my first lost 50/59
solid frigate
I think yanqing was my first lost 50/59
i still don't have Yanqing lol
I'm fine I'm not fucked lol
solid frigate
BE HAPPY IVE GOTTEN HUM MORE THAN ONCE
if i got him i would not be as mad unless i got him more than once
also Tree sorry we just go off topic lol
rustic mountain
wen u crit a dozo player
solid frigate
wen u crit a dozo player <:pepogld:816502039483121694>
spiral ridge
Tree seems fine
bold geode
No way Wolfe is
spiral ridge
wen u crit a dozo player <:pepogld:816502039483121694>
Sacred sword making it feel like I always crit :3
solid frigate
yey
I'm 1550
In Double Ranbats
bold geode
Bruh Wolfe just needs to make it past 2 more turns
spiral ridge
Holy shit good job tree
spiral ridge
<:pepogld:816502039483121694>
Gotta clean my damn screen everything is smudged
rustic mountain
ive gotten 1700s b4 this reg i dont think it was this team tho. havent been able to ladder much this past cppl months
spiral ridge
Highest I’ve done was 1580 on worlds Zama team
spiral ridge
Then fairy miraidon came after and the teams answers to that felt minimal
rustic mountain
as long as ur making progress
spiral ridge
Yeah :)
bold geode
THEY FORFEITED
spiral ridge
How long is stream? I’ll watch when home
rustic mountain
awhile
bold geode
There was 2 minutes of time left, they could've won if the animations were long enough
solid frigate
its still live rn
rustic mountain
u can skip the in between tho
since each round is like 30+ b4 the next depending how long his set was and every1 elses
spiral ridge
Gotcha
bold geode
He's still in lmao
rustic mountain
There was 2 minutes of time left, they could've won if the animations were long ...
yea u always play that out
spiral ridge
When is next like. Rk9 stream? Regional is the term sorry brain
bold geode
Yeah he should've lost
rustic mountain
rk9 stream 
spiral ridge
Is it next weekend louisville?
rustic mountain
yea i think so
spiral ridge
rk9 stream <:HDyepge:1040077530943721512>
Look you find the tournaments to sign up there and they’re streamed I was logical but not correct
I think teachers give half point for that
craggy dagger
lmao
spiral ridge
I’m so behind on school work doing it rn during bingo
bold geode
You play bingo?
spiral ridge
I’m helping set up and give tickets
rustic mountain
Look you find the tournaments to sign up there and they’re streamed I was logica...
no i get haha ive jus never heard a regional referred to like that
spiral ridge
I played once with grandparents at retirement home
Ya boy made 120$ in one night
bold geode
I was finna say how you young and old at same time
spiral ridge
I still want to go again and try to get that bag
Fuck them old people money is MINE
(This was two years ago still haven’t gone again lmao)
rustic mountain
spiral ridge
no i get haha ive jus never heard a regional referred to like that
My brain is quite unique
rustic mountain
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2216761009-e7w4tbpo0an71r3iem1631nbgr452rxpw
dozo crit game if any1 wants to see
spiral ridge
Unununahh
rustic mountain
its a regi noise
solid frigate
lol
bold geode
https://tenor.com/view/caveman-croods-grug-grug-crood-angry-grug-gif-19400643
Grug moment
spiral ridge
The guy I’m working with just pulled out his phone. Went on wordle, used starter word penis and got it in 3
solid frigate
bold geode
Bro has an idea
bold geode
The guy I’m working with just pulled out his phone. Went on wordle, used starter...
The power of penis baybee
spiral ridge
There are two types of men
solid frigate
rustic mountain
All men laugh at balls
if ur sense of humor hasnt evolved passed that of a 5th grader sure
spiral ridge
Okay time to watch dozo game that caught me so off guard
bold geode
if ur sense of humor hasnt evolved passed that of a 5th grader sure
You're just still in the middle phase then
It's haha balls
Then balls is not funny
Then haha balls
spiral ridge
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2216761009-e7w4tbpo0an71r3iem...
Niceeee lmao
Archapeli team still gotcha
bold geode
Discord mobile is being fucking stupid today
spiral ridge
Always is
solid frigate
You're just still in the middle phase then
It's haha balls
Then balls is not fu...
thats just making Deez nuts joke like publicised(idk if thats an actual word)
spiral ridge
Aegis ain’t gonna win against him love he can’t process the word argument let alone one
rustic mountain
You're just still in the middle phase then
It's haha balls
Then balls is not fu...
spiral ridge
Images may help him
bold geode
Aegis ain’t gonna win against him love he can’t process the word argument let al...
Uh your mom
bold geode
https://tenor.com/view/girl-sure-jan-sarcastic-brady-bunch-gif-11590179
He doesn't find it funny, guys get him
Sniper monkey, line up the shot
spiral ridge
Man thinks he’s playing btd
bold geode
Bitch I AM BTD
rustic mountain
Archapeli team still gotcha
its a good core
spiral ridge
Yah ofc
plain drum
What are you on
rustic mountain
oda said its not gna b any bullshit like that even tho ik ur makin a joke
like its actually gna be a physical thing not the one piece was the friends we made he said he hates that shit
plain drum
like its actually gna be a physical thing not the one piece was the friends we m...
A picture of all the friends then /s
bold geode
oda said its not gna b any bullshit like that even tho ik ur makin a joke
Oda: "Sike got y'all good. The friends are a physical thing"
spiral ridge
He hates it for how much he does it 
rustic mountain
spiral ridge
He hates it for how much he does it <:poliwhirlkek:932149535311015988>
(This is bait please don’t explain)
bold geode
He hates it for how much he does it <:poliwhirlkek:932149535311015988>
What
I don't hate One Piece
rustic mountain
(This is bait please don’t explain)
i mean friendship and found family while major aspects of one piece arent going to actually embody what the one piece really is
i already typed it
spiral ridge
Fair enough I’d be too lazy to backspace
rustic mountain
u should read op if u already dont
rustic mountain
I don't hate One Piece
how could u its goated
ppl who dont like one piece didnt give it a chance
bold geode
I ain't saying it goated but definitely not bad
rustic mountain
rustic mountain
manga too?
spiral ridge
Yeah
I’m shit with media it hurts me
Had this for months maybe have taken one or two off
I’ve added much more than taken
lethal zinc
Undead Unluck spotted.
rustic mountain
def some id put over others also dont watch deadman wonderland read it the adapation sucks
molten oasis
Had this for months maybe have taken one or two off
Fmab is so good
rustic mountain
both fmas are very good
random pecan
any suggestion for spiritomb?
I thought of a snorlax support 
spiral ridge
def some id put over others also dont watch deadman wonderland read it the adapa...
I put it to remind myself.
Loved the anime why’d they have to not continue :(
spiral ridge
Fmab is so good
Watched non brotherhood so I know the weird ending but still liked it
rustic mountain
i prefer fmas ending even tho fmab was the mangas ending
spiral ridge
First I’m doing is Jojo part 6 then HXH
rustic mountain
hxh is so good
spiral ridge
i prefer fmas ending even tho fmab was the mangas ending
Really? I’ll see if I agree later
rustic mountain
i meant for hxh i only have seen 1 season of jojo
spiral ridge
No I know
I’m just saying that for myself
And Jojo season one I love but is so different I would prob recommend try later seasons purely cus it feels like a new show
Season one is part 1+2 correct?
solid frigate
Skibidi Rizzler
Gun
Him
Down.
spiral ridge
If someone thinks Jojo is bad rec then I’m swinging
You can not like Jojo. But saying it’s a bad rec is something different
bold geode
Gun
Him
Down.
You're so goonish from the rizzler in Ohio who's so skibidi. You have to stick your gyatt out or else he'll fanum tax your mewing streak
spiral ridge
Shit monkey had media literacy?
bold geode
If brainrot is media literacy then I don't want it
Scotty did I show you the skibidi toilet shit in my store?
spiral ridge
Can I say yes so you don’t show me?
spiral ridge
What the fuck
bold geode
I actually yesterday stopped for like 5 minutes to process it when I saw it cuz I thought I was genuinely fuckin hallucinating
foggy lodge
THIS IS IN MY FUCKING STORE
and did you buy one?
foggy lodge
you could have made an unboxing
😔
The opposing Sneasler used Dire Claw!
(Tauros lost 35.8% of its health!)
Tauros fell asleep!
i hate this move
rustic mountain
And Jojo season one I love but is so different I would prob recommend try later ...
i watched stone ocean i think it was
spiral ridge
Oh you jumped into it I see
That’s part 6
That one definitely has some interesting moments so far
Women’s prison 
dense latch
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2216777766-f11bjgqm9mvzblb4s9f2nu0qxuic7qzpw this might be the proudest i've been after a win
rustic mountain
it was solid idk i feel like i missed a bunch not watching earlier seasons
spiral ridge
Yeah why’d you go there
But also yeah lots of things from part 3
Nothing too wrong with it just intriguing
Each part is pretty self contained
bold geode
He finally lost
bold geode
rustic mountain
Yeah why’d you go there
But also yeah lots of things from part 3
it was on netflix and ppl said it was anthology esque so i figured why not
rustic mountain
part 1 had jus released so yea it recommended that
rustic mountain
i wasnt as pulled in to check out any other parts
it was jus ok to me
and part 6 was on the front page i didnt see any other seasons available
spiral ridge
Weird
I watched season one on Netflix ages ago. Never seen it leave and believe it’s there rn
Same with the rest
rustic mountain
spiral ridge
Oh well
If you found that eh idk how you woulda felt to part one
Later parts are more complex and more intriguing fights
spiral ridge
Surprised you aren’t finding many to practice
rustic mountain
If you found that eh idk how you woulda felt to part one
ill revisit at some point but for now theres a lot of anime on my backlog i gta check out
spiral ridge
Trust me I feel that dw lol
And hey if it ain’t for you ain’t for you
My personal fave is golden wind mafia boys
That again I recommend at least parts 1+3 cus dio
This ain’t dio for the record
bold geode
Great now I might not play a tournament cuz my mom wants ice cream
rustic mountain
bold geode
Gotta keep her happy bruh lmao
rustic mountain
That again I recommend at least parts 1+3 cus dio
yea id jus watch straight thru if i were to check it out again
spiral ridge
I recommend it. I’d say even if you don’t like part 1+2 keep going cus they’re short and no stands
rustic mountain
got it
spiral ridge
But since you’re already acquainted with stands idk
bold geode
I did ask her "hey you want anything" after I got off work
Didn't reply for 10 mins so I thought it was a no
Nope she wasn't paying attention so she didn't see the text
rustic mountain
i dont mind build up
rustic mountain
oh ok
spiral ridge
Stands just kinda. Become a thing
rustic mountain
I did ask her "hey you want anything" after I got off work
Didn't reply for 10 m...
u played urself
bold geode
Maybe that's why I do bad in Limitless tours
Cuz I get everything cleared up, and then some shit happens so right before the tour starts I gotta stress about if I'm even gonna fuckin make it on time
spiral ridge
Stands just kinda. Become a thing
This is genuinely it it’s a bloodline activation all at once thing and then others outside of bloodline get them too and whatever
rustic mountain
Maybe that's why I do bad in Limitless tours
Cuz I get everything cleared up, an...
def try nd give urself an open window for tours, stuff pops up but def dont stress it like that u can always recover an 0-1 start
especially since its generally for practice
bold geode
def try nd give urself an open window for tours, stuff pops up but def dont stre...
That's the thing
I do
rustic mountain
ive seen plenty of players drop in top cut or before
bold geode
But shit always pops up RIGHT before
Even on Thursday tours I do
Not doing shit the whole day, but still wait until 8pm to make SURE there ain't nothing
And it still happens
zinc totem
what are evs for bulky support volcarona 
spiral ridge
If I had a nickel for every time Jojo had two men be in odd positions that look very wrong from certain angles and another of their friends saw and didn’t know what to say
I’d have two Nickle’s
pallid hare
If I had a nickel for every time Jojo had two men be in odd positions that look ...
its what gives that authentic jojo experience
spiral ridge
You can do it honey
spiral ridge
its what gives that authentic jojo experience
Yes
Unlike the other common theme in most parts of
The orangutan :(
rustic mountain
im locking in vivillon
gl
molten oasis
bold geode
The orangutan :(
Hehehehe monkey
tranquil kraken
im locking in vivillon
omg your username
mighty stump
def try nd give urself an open window for tours, stuff pops up but def dont stre...
i cant play my one regional
im so sad
well not really
but defo bummed
bold geode
Can I do good in literally one of these mfers lmao
0-1 start off cuz of a Throat Spray Farigiraf
molten oasis
I am low ladder atm but I think hydreigon could be a good support
Cloak snarl tw support
bold geode
I'm just gonna have to find a line to play around Dozo cuz Prim without a damage boosting item just feels ass ngl
chrome knot
yeah
molten oasis
I haven’t had a ton of issues with sitrus but LORB feels so nice on it compared to sitrus
bold geode
Like fuck the Sitrus stuff, it literally tickled Farigiraf
chrome knot
omg your username
is it cute
molten oasis
And I really wish it was better lol
bold geode
Maybe I should've just fuckin Sneasler Pulted that fuckin lead or some bullshit idk
bold geode
At least I got one more game I can lose
dull ibex
The good part is I'm hovering 200-300
bold geode
Just gotta claw my way back
dull ibex
Not 20,000
molten oasis
Nice red
bold geode
Welp
Looking like a quick X-3 tonight boys
0-2, they played better a turn or two, what can ye do
It's genuinely fucking annoying but shit happens
Happens at an annoying rate
bold geode
Not out yet
1-2 thank God I know how to play a fuckin mirror
bold geode
2-2
bold geode
https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournament/66fd8b1ba23f2120819d3931/player/cochamo
Excuse me what
Is that the Duraludon
balmy glen
Ask them to play you on showdown ezpz
rustic mountain
keanu u goin to louisville
rustic mountain
was gna say i feel like u cant wait for reg to return 
balmy glen
Ye I’m not a huge fan of reg h
torn parrot
I know how to truly use furret
I have
To accept that it’s not special in any way at all
And just use it like a shitty maushold because I think it’s cute
mighty stump
And just use it like a shitty maushold because I think it’s cute
If it makes you feel any better
Galvantula is a shitty A9 in my team
Its ok
At the end of the day you have a functioning team that you know CAN be improved and you know how
torn parrot
That’s a good point (:
rustic mountain
yea i think thats an important distinction. as long as ur not disillusioned by its ceiling u can jus play it for more fun
rustic mountain
Ye I’m not a huge fan of reg h
funny how that can work haha i prefer reg h
mighty stump
Every team has its limit whether its structural or player-based
rustic mountain
i think some are more hard capped then others especially using less optimal choices like a furret or galvantula
zinc totem
@mighty stump are you proud of me? 
mighty stump
<@250386799363489808> are you proud of me? <:happy:569773470058283008>
Yes I am good job
Congrats
rustic mountain
nice
zinc totem
somehow my newest team just makes me climb
balmy glen
Locking in mid surgery to play my set
Yup I believe in you
zinc totem
dont know how but this team is ballin
make fun of me if you want but results are highly positive
knotty mirage
Damn i really want push ranked but i'm afraid indihome gonna screw me again
I really hate this internet provider
zinc totem
im doing my final push rn
if i get top 200 or 100 im happy for my morning grind before back to shiny hunting
full dirge
you're all insane o.o
knotty mirage
Still pissed about last month cannot get into the master rank because my internet decided to disconnect three times when i only need one more win to reach master ball
zinc totem
you're all insane o.o
we're pokemon players, what do you expect?
knotty mirage
zinc totem
top 200
full dirge
lol that's true
cyan smelt
Tofu why galvantula?
full dirge
I want to get into comp, but I gotta breed a team up first
cyan smelt
Best to practice on showdown first
Don't want to waste time breeding a team only to find out it's no good
full dirge
oh ofc
zinc totem
I want to get into comp, but I gotta breed a team up first
shiny team?
zinc totem
ah yeah then SD defo
full dirge
mhm mhm, it would suck wasting my time to find out it doesn't work lol
torn parrot
GET MORE S REENSHORS
knotty mirage
shiny team?
Huh is your comp team all a shiny mon ?
zinc totem
LETS FUCKING GO YESSSSS
imagine if i jumped top 100 from trank 205 
full dirge
do it
zinc totem
embed fail 
zinc totem
Huh is your comp team all a shiny mon ?
everything else except maus
knotty mirage
Ah okay is it because maus hard to hunt
cyan smelt
Level 6 for image and gif perms
mighty stump
mhm mhm, it would suck wasting my time to find out it doesn't work lol
If you brush up on comp basics and what the metagame is like you'll be able to better utilise your resources
molten oasis
cyan smelt
Tofu I think I need to do that too, should I reread vgcguide?
mighty stump
Tofu I think I need to do that too, should I reread vgcguide?
A quick skim never hurts anyone
And ngl, I genuinely think people need to start using VGC twt
knotty mirage
I really miss the times when i can makes my openent not use protect by just showing them urshifu
zinc totem
Ah okay is it because maus hard to hunt
its beacuse shiny maus is same color as normal maus
molten oasis
I like vgc twitter
mighty stump
Or just reading articles as well
molten oasis
Or am I dumb
full dirge
idk what the meta is but I do decent in pixelmon tourneys HAHA
cyan smelt
Vgc twitter gotcha
full dirge
cyan smelt
I need to brush up on tournament results too
zinc totem
literally same color
molten oasis
I’m just hoping that’s what he meant cuz I’ve never seen that abbreviation
molten oasis
literally same color <a:KEKWDISCO:906159021097123852>
Abysmal shiny
zinc totem
Abysmal shiny
reason why its only non-shiny in my team
zinc totem
It’s just SLIGHTLY more white
and a bit more brown front
rustic mountain
beige overalls instead of blueish/gray
molten oasis
Still an ass shiny lol
knotty mirage
Yeah it does kinda suck but if you want shiny maus you can always just use lets go feature at least
zinc totem
Still an ass shiny lol
looks like the "overalls" came from ass
rustic mountain
i got mine from a raid
knotty mirage
Gholdengo shiny is much more dissapointing
rustic mountain
not this again
molten oasis
You would have never known lol
rustic mountain
"iT sHoUld'Ve bEen SiLvEr"
knotty mirage
rustic mountain
molten oasis
But, I mean, it-
zinc totem
"iT sHoUld'Ve bEen SiLvEr"
platinum akhtually
molten oasis
Yeaaaaa, but also what do you do with that shiny
Without changing its base color at all
zinc totem
crazy all of which arent gold
i mean there been other coins which would make sense give it more color, even copper coiins existed
zinc totem
Maybe a rust color could have been interesting
gold doesnt rust tho
molten oasis
Fuck
rustic mountain
i mean there been other coins which would make sense give it more color, even co...
golds literally in its name
and ability
zinc totem
yeah but shiny doesnt need follow its origin
molten oasis
So what do you do with its shiny
rustic mountain
im not even saying its shiny couldnt be better but to say it shouldnt be gold is crazy to me
molten oasis
Maybe different color belt/chest
zinc totem
i mean it gives it glasses
molten oasis
knotty mirage
Really sucks especially when dhengo supposed to be the celebration of reaching 1000 pokemon
rustic mountain
So what do you do with its shiny
make the belt gold plated and make its purse/side satchel blue or purple
molten oasis
Yea
knotty mirage
Yeah at least changing the chest to different color should be good enough
rustic mountain
would atleast make it more distinct w/o sacrificing its lore
mighty stump
i just like the effect
zinc totem
make the belt gold plated and make its purse/side satchel blue or purple
or make stripes bright purple, satchel red/blue and belt red with purple trim
mighty stump
you get the shiny sparkle without much aesthetic diff
rustic mountain
yea the stripes could also be a different color
zinc totem
beiung more royalty type
White for Purity, Gold for Wealth; Purple, Violet, and Blue for Royalty and Piety.
molten oasis
I wish dengo was working better for me, gambit is so strong and u don’t feel the same way with dengo rn
rustic mountain
you get the shiny sparkle without much aesthetic diff
oh yea i def still made sure i had the shiny haha
zinc totem
so stripes could be white, satchel purple and belt blue with violet trim or violet with blue trim
knotty mirage
you get the shiny sparkle without much aesthetic diff
I think i prefer if it at least have distinct difference i always looking with pain when i send out shiny garchomp
mighty stump
I wish dengo was working better for me, gambit is so strong and u don’t feel the...
if the Gambits aren't AV they still get fucking chunked
After +2 as well
Its why I don't like Lefties Dengo
molten oasis
Incin felt more annoying, and I used metal coat/lorb
zinc totem
I wish dengo was working better for me, gambit is so strong and u don’t feel the...
for me i prefer metal coat dengo, that does insane damage after NP
mighty stump
@rustic mountain I can KO Incin with a Dark move from Kingambit LOL
molten oasis
Fair, that and I feel like it needs tw and getting it a good tw setter that feels good on a team is irritating
mighty stump
Does it have to be Tailwind
rustic mountain
<@669294124649676800> I can KO Incin with a Dark move from Kingambit LOL
assurance follow up?
mighty stump
Hell yea
molten oasis
No but it’s where I go to first
rustic mountain
nice
mighty stump
I do like 80 or something
rustic mountain
yea assurance seems underplayed
molten oasis
It’s speed feels awkward in tw
zinc totem
Fair, that and I feel like it needs tw *and getting it a good tw setter that fee...
if you make it slow, you can make tr version too
molten oasis
It’s still an awkward speed for tr
rustic mountain
i remember emilio running assurance gambit for a bit in reg b or c and putting in work
mighty stump
JoeUX9 too
zinc totem
buyt my dengo has okay bulk
Gholdengo @ Metal Coat
Ability: Good as Gold
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 132 SpA / 12 SpD / 108 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Make It Rain
- Shadow Ball
- Protect
- Nasty Plot
rustic mountain
right yea
mighty stump
His BundleGambit stuff is still a concept i'm utilising to this point
It's the core variation of the Galvantula/Kingambit concept
molten oasis
mm, well it was that and I got extremely honed in on dengo a9 for a month and i still feel a sour taste lol
rustic mountain
yea i see the vision, pretty cool
mighty stump
The Bug typing/coverage ACTUALLY was pretty damn good
molten oasis
Cuz it’s not better than gambit a9 lol
mighty stump
More becuase it was there as an extra too and I got opportunities to utilise it
rustic mountain
yea makes sense it hits a few common threats like rilla and dreigon
def a cppl others im blanking on
zinc totem
now question: What is in your opinion mon people sleep on
rustic mountain
idt its slept on it just won a regional i see it quite often
molten oasis
mm
rustic mountain
id have to think on that tho idk wats most slept on
molten oasis
Calm mind Primarina cope
zinc totem
while climbing top 200 i've seen from rank 500 to 200 atleast 30% was hydreigons
rustic mountain
makes sense
zinc totem
tbf im very surprised i've not seen fast psyspam after i hit top 1000
rustic mountain
now question: What is in your opinion mon people sleep on
av bm ursaluna
molten oasis
Actually yea
I explored that early in the format but not too much since the go to was very much LORB
rustic mountain
it jus won the grand challenge and i havent seen it too much since. played w/ a little bit nd it feels strong
molten oasis
noted
zinc totem
i mean LO bloodmoon ursa BM 1 shots with helping hand command dozo i think
molten oasis
Cuz Bloodmoon is a very strong move lol
knotty mirage
av bm ursaluna
It does feel really nice to use and most people don't expect BM ursa to use vacuum wave
rustic mountain
i think lo is fine on it but av atleast atm is kinda catching ppl off, it survives things u wouldnt expect and still does respectable damage
molten oasis
Maybe I’ll mess with that, cuz chomp a9 just doesn’t feel good with anything else lol
Unfortunately
zinc totem
Cuz Bloodmoon is a very strong move lol
blood moon is like hyper beam except your mon wont stop moving 
rustic mountain
Maybe I’ll mess with that, cuz chomp a9 just doesn’t feel good with anything els...
other then the 6 thats done well?
molten oasis
Yea, I mean hydreigon felt okay with it but idt it does better than dnite
rustic mountain
yea
zinc totem
252+ SpA Life Orb Tera-Normal Ursaluna-Bloodmoon Helping Hand Blood Moon vs. +2 116 HP / 0 SpD Dondozo: 250-294 (104.1 - 122.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
molten oasis
Just a9 I think could be pretty good
But I also have 0 idea how to get that to function well
Unless it’s something added on later to patch up mu’s
zinc totem
nuke button
molten oasis
Yea, I’m glad dozo isn’t getting a ton of play
rustic mountain
ppl will stop respecting it and itll come back
molten oasis
Such an annoying Mon to fight
zinc totem
meanwhile 252+ SpA Life Orb Tera-Normal Ursaluna-Bloodmoon Helping Hand Blood Moon vs. +2 148 HP / 4 SpD Sylveon: 140-166 (74 - 87.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
molten oasis
ppl will stop respecting it and itll come back
Nono people will keep respecting it 
zinc totem
sylveon tanks BM like unit
molten oasis
rustic mountain
well see haha
mighty stump
Is it really fair when you’re giving it a +2
molten oasis
Av Bloodmoon, hm
mighty stump
Lol
zinc totem
Is it really fair when you’re giving it a +2
well cmparing it to dozo
that dies with +2 to BM
mighty stump
Galvantula tanks Blood Moon without bein +2 just uses Focus Sash
rustic mountain
pog
zinc totem
any mon tanks blood moon with sash
rustic mountain
galvantula is pretty cool tho
zinc totem
but sylveon do tank BM without HH 252+ SpA Life Orb Ursaluna-Bloodmoon Blood Moon vs. 148 HP / 4 SpD Sylveon: 152-179 (80.4 - 94.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO pretty well
mighty stump
It also depends on how shitty your investment is in Dondozo
If you’re going max HP dondozo you’re bad at the game
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
molten oasis
Oops
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
rustic mountain
great typing
molten oasis
I’m debating if dengo Bloodmoon could work
mighty stump
I’m debating if dengo Bloodmoon could work
Go Whimsi/BM/Gholdengo
Do you want my draft?
zinc totem
If you’re going max HP dondozo you’re bad at the game
i mean i used vgc calculator base dozo 252+ SpA Life Orb Tera-Normal Ursaluna-Bloodmoon Helping Hand Blood Moon vs. +2 116 HP / 0 SpD Dondozo: 250-294 (104.1 - 122.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO but ofcourse it depends on ionvestment
molten oasis
You have a draft? Sure
mighty stump
k gimme sec
molten oasis
I want something that hasn’t won a regional lol
A SET OF 6
cuz I got beat to hydreigon & dengo and a9 lol
mighty stump
https://pokepast.es/2e7f27ce093f19b4 Have fun
rustic mountain
cuz I got beat to hydreigon & dengo and a9 lol
mighty stump
You can replace Wisp with Blitz on TFlame
rustic mountain
mon or team does well
drago: yea i cant use that
molten oasis
…that’s not what I meant
molten oasis
It feels better to get a team working than to watch a set of 6 that works seemingly perfectly, in a thing I was using, which just kills motivation
If that makes sense, and yes I figured lol
rustic mountain
i get the sentiment but ive shared my thoughts on that w/ u
molten oasis
I tried man, I really did lol
rustic mountain
haha sometimes thats all we can do
molten oasis
I did do well with it but I feel like it was a carry from the team
And not necessarily that I knew what worked well with that team
rustic mountain
u had like an 80% wr and almost hit top 500
idt thats all the team'
gta give urself some credit
molten oasis
That’s happened like everytime I run pult idk why
rustic mountain
cant knock urself for giving urself the best tools to win
molten oasis
Fair
I still wanna get something to work that isn’t a pre established 6
I hate mirrors
molten oasis
I do too but I ran into really strong players with sneasler pult and just went “hm what if I didn’t run a pre established 6”
rustic mountain
i mean i get that but i also think that can be a cop out
mighty stump
i like player diffing ppl
GWeezing
Also I just cop out of mirrors by going Standard +1
molten oasis
It’s a skill issue
mighty stump
+1 beingrg the tofu wack special
molten oasis
Oh my end, like I have 0 clue how to fight through mirrors cuz I usually don’t have to
rustic mountain
instead of opting to get better at beating ppl at their own game while also utilizing some of the best tools available ur taking an easier way out to try and catch ppl off guard basically saying thats ur best chance of consistently beating ppl which while it can lead to success becomes a crutch
molten oasis
cough
rustic mountain
ppl do well w/ it so its not like inherently bad but i dont think its a good approach to have
molten oasis
this is what a year of playing off meta gets me
mighty stump
In a sense I can disagree, only because the other factors that come into play are playstyle preferences and thought patterns
So even in mirrors, even though there is never a true 50:50 turn, its not a structural/team thing anymore
molten oasis
I’m in the middle of both cuz I get both sentiments
mighty stump
So in that regard, opting out of it would be a path that should be utilised
I’d argue in mirrors it doesn’t always guarantee growth either and it can be formed through your own understanding of your own team in a true mirror
But even then thay execution will never play out consistently imo
Since again, the oppositions playstyle/thought pattern comes into play
A risk averse player vs an aggro player are going to pilot the exact same team differently even when the win connis the same
Since the path will differ based on what considerations are taking within the acceptable risk limit
molten oasis
rustic mountain
So in that regard, opting out of it would be a path that should be utilised
i mean u can still use the team and jus add a tech or 2 to give u an advantage in the mirror atleast on papaer. i meant moreso running away from pre established concepts and meta cores/mons that have proven successful when generally thats what wins tours. and the players that make the meta calls generally have played meta long enough to know wat they are doing to build against it and what actually makes sense to use in a given format
mighty stump
Oh I see what you’re saying now
molten oasis
I had clefable for a bit
But then went to magmar cuz I brought clefable like, never
mighty stump
I agree, everything you do HAS to make sense
molten oasis
Which changed it to a 1 on 1 mirror with other sneasler Pult teams
mighty stump
It cant be tech just for the sake of tech
Easiest example for a mirror would be dozo mirrors
Due to the linearity of it
One might not even brung Dozo the other does caus etheyre okay to just play the long game thru
rustic mountain
bring solo dozo to beat regular dozo and give urself a free slot to play w/ 