#competitive_discussion

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solid frigate
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but i am trying some stuff

little plank
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I just threw a team together and it seems to have been working pretty well so far

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Sitting at 1550 currently

solid frigate
little plank
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Regulation g going to be double restricted I'm guessing?

solid frigate
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i somehow miss Reg G rn

little plank
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You miss the turtle lol

solid frigate
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well not mainly using it

craggy dagger
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the bike

chrome knot
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NOVA

solid frigate
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NOVA

craggy dagger
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hi

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i wasn’t gone for that long was i

tranquil kraken
craggy dagger
solid frigate
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kek

tranquil kraken
chrome knot
craggy dagger
chrome knot
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blaahhh

craggy dagger
chrome knot
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you were gone so long i turned into vgc art

solid frigate
craggy dagger
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i’m on lanturn watch rn

chrome knot
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what could that possibly mean

solid frigate
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she is eyeing on Lanturn

unique karma
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Hey I have a question. I got 181 ranking in the grand challenge. My Pokémon play account is connected but I didn’t get points yet

craggy dagger
unique karma
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Does anyone know why?

craggy dagger
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oh gc happened

solid frigate
unique karma
craggy dagger
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they better not drop the shiny ruins

unique karma
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I would send a screenshot but i can’t

solid frigate
chrome knot
craggy dagger
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ohhhh

unique karma
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Wait is my Pokémon scarlet id and Pokémon play account id supposed to have different numbers? I connected them why are they different numbers

torn parrot
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Uh oh

torn parrot
unique karma
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Someone @ me if they know what’s wrong

chrome knot
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you don’t get pts immediately

unique karma
chrome knot
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e v e n t u a l l y

unique karma
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O h

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So I shouldn’t be worried?

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As long as my account is connected to my Nintendo one it should ne good?

molten oasis
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You should be fine

mighty stump
chrome knot
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WHAT

solid frigate
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lol

knotty mirage
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I have question if i use skill swap to truant mon will the mon that got truant have one more turn to move or will truant active immediately ?

mighty stump
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Truant counts if you moved before hand iirc so that's the check

tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 171: Lanturn
Types

Water/Electric

Abilities

Volt Absorb, Illuminate, Water Absorb (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

125/58/58/76/76/67

Total

460

craggy dagger
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hear me out-

knotty mirage
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Oh so it's better to switch out the mon that got the truant immediately ?

craggy dagger
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volt absorb tera flying eerie impulse eweb support

knotty mirage
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Because if i made play by sending out meowstic and slaking i use light screen at first turn and then skill swap the slaking at second turn

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Should i just switch out meowstic immediately or i can click one more move ?

chrome knot
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or like got ur nose !! NekoLaugh

craggy dagger
chrome knot
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WAH

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thats quite the escalation

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@mighty stump help shes gonna shoooottt meeee

mighty stump
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im nwatching

craggy dagger
chrome knot
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zipping ur lip with like 2 fingers and giggling at you

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is quite different from SHOOOOTING someone

mighty stump
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Hello

bold geode
mighty stump
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"Reg H is Diverse":

knotty mirage
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Now i really miss reg G

bold geode
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Dw I'll keep doing dumb shit guys

solid frigate
knotty mirage
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At least in reg G i don't really need to worry much about predicting protect

mighty stump
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A story in 3 parts

bold geode
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Sounds like a skill issue

mighty stump
solid frigate
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ah yes

bold geode
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Tofu aren't you on break

mighty stump
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Yea

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I've not engaged with pokemon related stuff for like the entire day, at most im tweaking this team just for content but im not working on anything else

bold geode
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Fair

knotty mirage
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I mean i don't predict protect since reg D so i don't think i'm skilled at doing that anymore

chrome knot
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want a purple vivillon tofu they need forever homes

mighty stump
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Guess who's involved in their first official complaint!!!

bold geode
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Basically I'm seeing that we no longer have the busted things to save our ass anymore

mighty stump
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It's just the client being unreasonable

solid frigate
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welp

molten oasis
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That’s lame

solid frigate
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Humanity never dissapoints me,But tryingto do that every fucking time

bold geode
chrome knot
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LOL

mighty stump
molten oasis
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Lmfao

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Gambit doesn’t care about resists

solid frigate
chrome knot
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@mighty stump need thoughts on team

mighty stump
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uhm, sure

chrome knot
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which would be better 6th, gambit or gholdengo on

vivillon
garchomp
incin
primarina
whimsicott

mighty stump
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gambit

chrome knot
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black glasses sd @ dark?

mighty stump
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I like having Iron Head

chrome knot
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i like having 3 multipliers

mighty stump
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I mean its up to you

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I just think Iron Head is really nice

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if LO isn't taken, id consider LO

unique karma
chrome knot
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lo chomp

molten oasis
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Is gambit vs dengo usually just based on what the team needs?

unique karma
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There’s also truck room teams and weather teams

chrome knot
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yeah however in this case they both fit same role

unique karma
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Rain is the most popular

molten oasis
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Ah

chrome knot
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just idrk who does it better

mighty stump
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Kingambit

molten oasis
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I might be in a similar spot then lol

unique karma
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Ok I’m now caught up on messages lol

molten oasis
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although I have 2 dark types already and dengo’s felt mostly fine

bold geode
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I'd do Lorb Gambit but I got Lorb Prim

molten oasis
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With incin amoonguss a9 chomp hydrei would gambit or dengo be better

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I’d send a paste but I think I’m going to Sacramento

mighty stump
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Who is realistically going to snipe you and your team

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Lol

molten oasis
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you’re probably right

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and I have a couple months im not rushing anything

bold geode
molten oasis
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the questions answer themselves ig

mighty stump
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my MausApe line is so funny

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"proc defiant on purpose and pray they aren't faster"

bold geode
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"Please God don't let em get me"

mighty stump
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its also variable to their bulk lol

craggy dagger
chrome knot
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ok grandma lets get you to bedddd

craggy dagger
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it’s bulky-
it’s electric type-
it’s volt absorb-
it’s-
20 base points higher than pelipper

chrome knot
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ok whats its purpose

mighty stump
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Why is Dnite simultaneously dogshit and good

torn parrot
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I hate whenever people talk about the fan made abikity where a pokemon sets up trick room as soon as it enters the field

Why would anybody want to fight this

He would quite literally be a requirement on every single team.

chrome knot
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LMAO

mighty stump
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Fan made shit is the most imba shit you'll ever read

chrome knot
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leading that + torkoal ok shake my hand

bold geode
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Because people want to make dumb shit without considering balancing aspects at all

chrome knot
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oh and what if it had psychic terrain was a move

mighty stump
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I saw someone make a Torkoal evolution that was a regional Ice/Fire type that had an Ice move with 30% chance to Burn and Iron Barbs

craggy dagger
chrome knot
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yeah what does it click

tiny karmaBOT
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Lanturn's moveset:
Physical Moves

Aqua Tail, Bounce, Dive, Double-Edge, Facade, Flail, Flip Turn, Frustration, Giga Impact, Liquidation, Natural Gift, Return, Secret Power, Spark, Sucker Punch, Take Down, Waterfall, Wild Charge

Special Moves

Blizzard, Brine, Bubble, Bubble Beam, Charge Beam, Chilling Water, Dazzling Gleam, Discharge, Electro Ball, Electroweb, Hidden Power, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Muddy Water, Psybeam, Rising Voltage, Round, Scald, Shock Wave, Signal Beam, Snore, Spit Up, Surf, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Volt Switch, Water Gun, Water Pulse, Whirlpool, Zap Cannon

Status Moves

Agility, Amnesia, Aqua Ring, Attract, Captivate, Charge, Confide, Confuse Ray, Curse, Double Team, Eerie Impulse, Electric Terrain, Endure, Flash, Hail, Heal Bell, Ion Deluge, Mimic, Mist, Protect, Rain Dance, Rest, Screech, Sleep Talk, Soak, Spotlight, Stockpile, Substitute, Supersonic, Swagger, Swallow, Thunder Wave, Toxic

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Lanturn.

chrome knot
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i heard that in lza discussion LOL

mighty stump
craggy dagger
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impulse web scald

mighty stump
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Speaking from experience

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EWeb blows

bold geode
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What if Infernape could never die

mighty stump
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Bring back Galarian Darmanitan

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Thanks

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I want to G-Darm over my opps

bold geode
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Nah keep that ugly mfer away

mighty stump
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You don't even know what it does

bold geode
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I know it's ugly

mighty stump
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It has Choice Band as an ability

bold geode
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So shitty Adaptability?

mighty stump
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?

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What is this take

bold geode
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Oh wait is it even non STAB?

mighty stump
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Yes?

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Literally Choice Band

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Bro doesn't know 💀

bold geode
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Oh that's actually stupid

mighty stump
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Base 140 atk, Base 95 Spe

bold geode
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Did anyone slap a Choice Band on it anyways?

mighty stump
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Obv

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OHKOs Dmax ez

bold geode
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So Choice Band Choice Band G Darm

mighty stump
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p much

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now throw Tera on to that

bold geode
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You're basically saying let's put Mega Kang in the game rn

mighty stump
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252+ Atk Choice Band Gorilla Tactics Tera Ice Darmanitan-Galar Icicle Crash vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Primarina: 161-190 (86 - 101.6%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

I love having a million multipliers to OHKO a resist

bold geode
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Now vs Incin

mighty stump
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Well you don't OHKO that

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However

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Tera Ground EQ

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-1 252+ Atk Choice Band Gorilla Tactics Tera Ground Darmanitan-Galar Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Incineroar: 236-282 (116.8 - 139.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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-1 252+ Atk Choice Band Gorilla Tactics Tera Ground Darmanitan-Galar Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 156+ Def Incineroar: 186-218 (92 - 107.9%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO

bold geode
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Honestly hear me out
Wouldn't mind megas in game rn IF they could somehow separate the mechanics

mighty stump
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Realistically G-Darm probably will find a place but wont be omega stupid since it's frail and has 0 switch in power

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But it also does get U-Turn and stupid coverage

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So

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252+ Atk Choice Band Gorilla Tactics Darmanitan-Galar U-turn vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Indeedee-F: 196-232 (110.7 - 131%) -- guaranteed OHKO

bold geode
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Like if you could mega and Tera in a game but not on same Pokemon

dull ibex
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weegeecee

dull ibex
bold geode
dull ibex
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yeah but what if it teras instead

bold geode
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Then that's fucking stupid

dull ibex
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that kind of thing, two mechanics at once doesnt really work out well

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also you wouldn't bring mega kang imo like at all

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it was nerfed pretty hard in gen 7

bold geode
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But like here's the deal right
If you tera Kang for example in this, you miss out on mega
Also it still did real good in Gen 7 despite the nerfs so

dull ibex
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still the guessing games would not be fun, having one central mechanic like tera is better

bold geode
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The two worst things that would come out of it imo would be

  1. Mega Kang
  2. The primals and Mega Ray
molten oasis
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+any new megas

dull ibex
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also if you can tera and mega once in one game yikes

bold geode
dull ibex
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ok but thats stuff way less guessing games then it+megas

bold geode
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You do realize they had megas and Z moves at one point right

dull ibex
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No i meant if you just tera volca so nothing can threaten it on that turn and fake out for giant chip with mega kang

bold geode
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In an era with no OTS

dull ibex
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it just gets out of hand

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yes and I think megas + z moves were bad for the game

bold geode
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I mean there's ways around it
And of course people would complain
It could spice it up a little fuck it

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I mean honestly not like the mechanics in general could really get any better from here

dull ibex
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if they bring megas back it better be permenant and the only mechanics with new megas between games

bold geode
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I mean it could be worse, I could've said Tera + Dmax

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But I fucking hate Dmax and hope that shit stays in the past

dull ibex
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alright

bold geode
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I don't even wanna deal with like the GMax Wildfire effect lmao

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I mean it could I guess happen based on releases of like Gen 10, LZA and Switch 2 but I doubt any of it
It's all just dumb hypotheticals

bold geode
# dull ibex alright

Honestly y'know what
Red I can convince you to add megas to the game
Kang could force CSR to tera lmao

dull ibex
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this doesnt force me to agree

solid frigate
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lol

bold geode
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I said convince not force you lmao

molten oasis
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Megas+tera sounds kinda bad

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Megas also could mean they put xern and zygarde into the game, who would be stupid

bold geode
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It does kinda
I wouldn't mind it personally
Kinda wanna experience megas just cuz I wanna see what the dumbest one is

bold geode
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At least it gives us something for CSR in fucking Yveltal

molten oasis
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Yveltal when Tera fairy draining kiss

bold geode
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That set fell off lmao

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Idk why, but it did

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I'm just wondering what the next mechanic would even be
Once again you can't get better than tera just fundamentally

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Honestly Gen 10 could be megas if they just like
Run out of fuckin ideas lmao
Hell idk then again they didn't bring PLA mechanic into Gen 9 so there's also that

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Actually we wanna talk wack ass mechanics, what was even strong and agile style

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Probably made tera so they didn't have to use that shit mechanic for Gen 9 LMFAO

solid frigate
rustic mountain
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@bold geode poison touch sneasler winning the gc

bold geode
bold geode
rustic mountain
bold geode
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Yeah definitely

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I do think lot of people just go Sash on it rn too and personally
Sash Unburden is fucking trash

solid frigate
bold geode
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Yeah tbh looking back at it, the format was set at a fast pace from the get go and it only sped up bit by bit
Was only a matter of trying to optimize your teams to go fast while being able to slow down other teams

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Basically like a game of Mario Kart
You're in second place, and the adjustments that were made were attempts to get a red shell and hit the man in 1st

molten oasis
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Incin is such a pain for my team man

rustic mountain
bold geode
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Like Poison Touch can feel like playing without an ability at moments, but Sash Unburden just definitely does that
Unless you use that Sash, you're just always playing without an ability

molten oasis
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Incin is such a pain for my team man

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Like goggles incin feels unkillable

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And tbh the amount of Tera grass/goggles stuff feels like it heavily ruins a lot of my game plans

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I probably just need to lead into it better, but I still find it fairly irritating

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Leading garchomp maybe

balmy glen
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If you want Unburden just use a seed or white herb

tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 904: Overqwil
Types

Dark/Poison

Abilities

Poison Point, Swift Swim, Intimidate (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

85/115/95/65/65/85

Total

510

Weight (Low Kick BP)

60.5kg (80 BP)

Height

2.5m

Introduced

Generation 8

Pre-evolution

Qwilfish-Hisui

Egg groups

Water 2

Gender Ratio

M: 50%, F: 50%

Color

Black

molten oasis
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i want to try leading chomp im more just worried about the intimidate

zinc totem
molten oasis
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the rest of the team also kinda struggles to hit it

zinc totem
molten oasis
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im not dropping life orb

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clear amulet chomp doesnt feel very strong

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life orb chomp feels a lot better imo

tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 904: Overqwil
Types

Dark/Poison

Abilities

Poison Point, Swift Swim, Intimidate (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

85/115/95/65/65/85

Total

510

molten oasis
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genuinely tho matches without incin feel a lot easier to get through and then when incin shows up i feel like things get a lot harder

mighty stump
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Sash Unburden when priority hits the field

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oof

real prairie
graceful pelican
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What's the current ladder looking like, throwing together a team ATM but I don't know who to bring yet

real prairie
graceful pelican
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thanks buddy

bold geode
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Literally like Fake Out + strong move fucks Sash Unburden

real prairie
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works out if you are using Indeedee but equally if you are, just use seed

foggy lodge
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Is Pelipper scarf a thing now?

molten oasis
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no wtf

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how to lose to a9 lol

foggy lodge
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i just saw that the Quaquaval team used a scarf Pelipper

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maybe its just a bo1 thing

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The team has a sturdy tera electric choice specs Archaludon lmao

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yeah it's only for bo1

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Upper hand works into prankster moves?

real prairie
real prairie
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or at least i asked a few days ago and @mighty stump told me "no"

foggy lodge
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Huh makes sense

dapper crag
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Does my post in battle stadium belong there or here?

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I can't tell 😅

next stump
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asking for that kind of advice is usually better in here

dapper crag
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Gotcha!

next stump
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but you want to ask a better question than just “train me to get better”, come with specific questions and teams that you’re using so we know how to help you

dapper crag
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Honestly learning fundamentals, and going from there upwards is what I'd like, it's quite broad as I know very little outside of type weaknesses. I almost have the pokemon for a team somebody made for me, minus the stats moves and held items

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But I do better when I can ask questions and get tailored support

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Which is why I ask for more a trainer than noob specific questions I guess

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Idk if I formulated that well but yeah 😅

real prairie
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i dont know the text command for the useful resources, can somoene do it

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that would be a good starting point when someone does it @dapper crag lol

chrome knot
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@next stump wanna see whos bein brought to louisville

next stump
# dapper crag Honestly learning fundamentals, and going from there upwards is what I'd like, i...

Here is a list of all of the resources I find most helpful when playing/learning VGC:

https://www.vgcguide.com/ (Helpful website for basics and also to get your feet wet)

https://www.pikalytics.com/ (Shows you usage data and helps you build Pokémon)

https://nerd-of-now.github.io/NCP-VGC-Damage-Calculator/ (Damage calculator that is very helpful when building teams or reflecting on games)

https://youtube.com/c/CybertronVGC (Best channel for daily VGC content, guiding you through the thought process you need for success)

https://victoryroadvgc.com/ (Tournament results, team reports and breakdowns, and rental codes can be found here)

https://twitter.com/VGCPastes - Tournament and high ranked teams

https://twitter.com/vgccorner - Helpful Twitter account that posts in-depth EV spreads and ideas about competitive pokemon

There are dozens of other resources, some of which are in the pinned messages of this channel. But these IMO are the best places to start absorbing knowledge and getting to a place where you're comfortable with VGC

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replace Pikalytics with Munchstats and Labmaus though

chrome knot
gentle cragBOT
next stump
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Vivillon gaminggg

chrome knot
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vivi chomp era

bold geode
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I'd bring Infernape to a Reg H regional, out dumb people

graceful pelican
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@dapper crag if you wanna run a game or two in SD right now I'd be game, I'm kinda in the middle of picking a team but any bit of practice is good

real prairie
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pokemon showdown

graceful pelican
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Showdown

dapper crag
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Sure I can try

graceful pelican
dapper crag
whole ibex
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What Pokémon do y’all think counters snealser?

bold geode
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Gholdengo

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Gholdengo walls it

graceful pelican
dapper crag
graceful pelican
bold geode
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Other than Gholdengo, honestly not really a counter in my eyes cuz all the things that can't be hit by Dire Claw get hit hard by CC except for Gholdengo

knotty mirage
# bold geode Gholdengo walls it

I don't think it's really hard wall i tried using dhengo but it ussualy just got hit by shadow claw or throat chop to the face

graceful pelican
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kanto version

knotty mirage
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Isn't exeggutor weak to dire claw

bold geode
molten oasis
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we're discussing anti sneasler?

whole ibex
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Yes

bold geode
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Actually
Gotta check calcs, maybe Corv or Bronzong ain't bad either

molten oasis
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amoonguss

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unless you're running acrobatics amoonguss gives sneasler a rough time

bold geode
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ACTUALLY
Bronzong with Lum Berry and Safeguard arkeknine

molten oasis
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its not 2016 bro

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and id argue thats desperate

bold geode
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But you see how dumb the format is? It could work

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It's Dire Claw too lmao

molten oasis
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i hate Dire Claw and now its in power lol

foggy lodge
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i hate this format so much lol

knotty mirage
molten oasis
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yesteraday i lost a game to dire claw proccing

real prairie
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Galewings Bravebird Talonflame cooks Sneasler

bold geode
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I just don't think there's a counter besides the 3 I mentioned cuz even if you resist Dire Claw, you are still susceptible to the effects unless you carry an item or ability to prevent them

foggy lodge
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take me back to reg F or give me double restricteds

molten oasis
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sleep on my incin, which otherwise i had a guaranteed win condition

foggy lodge
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i haven't liked this two last formats

molten oasis
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gambit was locked into sucker punch so i needed to fake out, and if it went through i won, but no it got slept

knotty mirage
foggy lodge
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there's just a lot of dumb things in this format

molten oasis
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i prefer this reg

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unironically i like this reg a little more

real prairie
whole ibex
real prairie
molten oasis
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its more open, and open is good for me, cuz i play anti meta lol

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anti meta restricted is a lot harder imo

real prairie
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its not just about who the best pilots are, its about creativity

molten oasis
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well, creativity is overrated

bold geode
molten oasis
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and i was trying to protect my +4 no tera gholdengo

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the gambit was tera dark +3

real prairie
molten oasis
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yk what my team is lol

bold geode
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Oh their Kingambit

molten oasis
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yea

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it was encore locked

bold geode
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Ummmm
I know you mentioned Gambit prior so

molten oasis
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gambit, doesnt really feel like its gonna help with incin

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which my team struggles with rn

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incin and gambit

bold geode
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Do you have Scarf anything?

molten oasis
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1 sec

knotty mirage
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I'm not sure about creativity in this reg especially when i ussualy see is just mausape psyspam and archpeli

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And dhengo gambit theyre everywhere

molten oasis
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if garchomp dies i lose to gambit and incin lol

bold geode
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Was gonna suggest Scarf Ape cuz it deals with your issues, but idk how to slot it in

molten oasis
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more incin

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yeaaaa

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core is dengo a9 chomp incin

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so amoonguss and hydrei are more movable

dapper crag
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How the heck

knotty mirage
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And this reg makes me really despise rock slide

molten oasis
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from what

dapper crag
molten oasis
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harc/s not really relevant

bold geode
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Actually
Over Hydrei, Scarf Ape
You can actually then like
Go ClAm Chomp and lemme cook
Have Coaching on Ape

molten oasis
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unfortunately

molten oasis
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i also lose tw which the team NEEDS

bold geode
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

molten oasis
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also helps with psyspam

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which, incin does not completely solve because meteor beam armarouge

bold geode
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You don't believe in Psychic shroom?

molten oasis
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and ursaluna

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i didn't really try it no

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gallade hasnt felt like a problem

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btw chomp hydrei is thumbsup

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amoonguss would be my first thing to go drop

bold geode
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Idk
I feel like if you could slot Scarf Ape in that shit then your Incin and Gambit issue would just

molten oasis
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if anything

knotty mirage
molten oasis
graceful pelican
molten oasis
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clefable kinda ruins scarf ape from doing shit

dapper crag
#

Idk I'm new lol

bold geode
#

Incin Amoongus kinda good though for defense? Idk maybe try it over shroom, though I feel like you kinda lose TR options like that

molten oasis
#

again incins more the issue

bold geode
#

How much HP does Clef have?

molten oasis
#

maybe just a move change?

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eh theres not, theres not a move to really change

bold geode
#

Not really no

molten oasis
#

also amoonguss has felt, weirdly enough, the most inconsistent

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goggles incin just kinda ruins it

#

tera grass is pretty fucking common

#

rain team murdered me today

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because tera grass arch+goggles incin

bold geode
#

Wait
Drago are you having problems with Dark types as Dengo?

#

Maybe try Tera Fairy?

molten oasis
#

the team cant like, i mean yea thats not a bad idea

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i dont tera infront of other stuff, cuz i can usually hit the other types

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dark types are generally kicking my ass

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lets try tera fairy

bold geode
#

Only problem is then Gambit can hit ya with Iron Head
Really Gambit is your issue here

molten oasis
#

incin's felt worse but i think its just due to me being kinda dumb with garchomp

bold geode
#

I think you can also like
Double or whatever

molten oasis
#

i haven't lead it into incin once, but i should lol

#

yea ig gambit is more an issue

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i thought about adding primarina briefly but it have to go over a9, which isnt happening

bold geode
#

Yeah with Gambit all you got to hit it is Chomp and Incin, and one of those isn't as great into it

#

Well
Eh it does resist it's STABs

molten oasis
#

i cant hit incin very well either

bold geode
#

You can hit it better than Gambit

molten oasis
#

fighting type sounds real good rn

#

but where do it go

bold geode
#

Might not be SE but at least you got a decent amount of neutrals for Incin

molten oasis
#

mm, i have draco and eq

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ninetales is pure ice dengo has to set up to do shit, amoonguss doesnt do damage, incin is resisted

bold geode
#

I thought of the worst fucking idea

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And no I'm not gonna say it lmao

molten oasis
#

say it

bold geode
#

No

craggy dagger
#

you know i resonate with those ideas smile1

chrome knot
#

no i meant

#

iron leaves this conversation

real prairie
#

trying to do well on showdown atm is like playing snakes and ladders 🤣

zinc mountain
real prairie
#

H Ty without Eruption? interesting

#

also know you are trying to lose Maus, but he prefers wide lense to Loaded dice

#

if you are looking for Salt Cure kills, you could go Gothetelle

zinc mountain
#

gratzie!

real prairie
#

No "t" 😉

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but, Prego!

bold geode
chrome knot
#

i took nap

spiral ridge
#

And the idea still hasn’t been said

craggy dagger
chrome knot
normal cedar
#

love when this happens

chrome knot
#

man

craggy dagger
plush nova
#

What a loser.

chrome knot
#

yr not even a man why did ur ears perk up like that

spiral ridge
chrome knot
#

same thing abt nova

spiral ridge
#

😭 CANT BE DOING ME LIKE THIS IN PUBLIC GIRL

tranquil kraken
spiral ridge
#

Hiii Ili I’ve been getting woman allegations lately

chrome knot
spiral ridge
#

NO I WASNT

chrome knot
#

YES U WERE

spiral ridge
#

YOU ASKED FOR A GUY SO I REPLIED

chrome knot
#

NO I DIDNT

spiral ridge
#

BASICALLY DID

chrome knot
#

NOT AT ALL

spiral ridge
#

I HAD A REASON FOR EARS TO PERK UP IDK

chrome knot
#

NO YOU DIDNT!!!

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lady friend lady friend !!

spiral ridge
craggy dagger
spiral ridge
#

I am not beating the allegations

chrome knot
spiral ridge
chrome knot
#

silly

shrewd karma
#

yo what’s the best held item for sneasler?

chrome knot
#

seeds/sash

spiral ridge
#

A seed probably

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Rilla sneasler is a decent combo

#

If you’d like grassy seed

shrewd karma
#

is sitrus decent?

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for sneasler

spiral ridge
#

Ehhh

#

An item you can fs have a turn without it kinda better

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Berries you can get just chunked before

chrome knot
#

noo bc youll have far better users of it

spiral ridge
#

Seeds should go off immediately and sash lets you live

shrewd karma
#

I’m not running rillaboom though

tiny karmaBOT
#
Ability: Unburden

If this Pokemon loses its held item for any reason, its Speed is doubled as long as it remains active, has this Ability, and is not holding an item.

chrome knot
#

sash then

spiral ridge
#

Sash yah

#

Any terrains at all?

shrewd karma
#

No

spiral ridge
#

Then sash it is ig

spiral ridge
plush nova
#

Any tera type suggestions here? I like this team so far, but I feel like I'm only using Tera on Tyranitar to get rid of the fighting weakness and Excadrill for a little extra power. https://pokepast.es/7dad95cbec448ae7

spiral ridge
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In your games is there anyone you wish had more valuable Tera’s?

plush nova
#

Excadrill since it feels like a bit of a waste to not change its type when Sand Rush still provides immunity to sandstorm.

shrewd karma
plush nova
#

Primarina too since I never use Tera there.

spiral ridge
#

Would prim be better with a defensive Tera?

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With how you use them

plush nova
#

Probably. I'm not using the tera for extra power on Hyper Voice.

spiral ridge
#

Your Tera’s seem quite hyper offensive

chrome knot
shrewd karma
#

talonflame

chrome knot
#

and why is typhlo scarf with whims

shrewd karma
#

because it takes 2 turns to set up sunny day and tailwind

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and whimsicott might faint in those 2 turns

spiral ridge
#

Uhh for a prim defensive Tera… I’m not sure but probably fire or dragon or something?

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I don’t really see too many prim Tera’s myself to know

chrome knot
shrewd karma
#

what do I set up first

spiral ridge
#

Specs Tera fire doesn’t really need the sun no?

plush nova
shrewd karma
#

that is the big question

chrome knot
#

understand yr speed tiers

#

and youll know

shrewd karma
#

sunny day or tailwind?

chrome knot
#

match dependent

spiral ridge
torn parrot
#

Boogiewoogie

chrome knot
#

mayaaaaa

torn parrot
#

Wazzap

chrome knot
#

haiyaaaaa

bold geode
chrome knot
#

poison

spiral ridge
shrewd karma
spiral ridge
#

Monke uses prim actually compared to me 😭

chrome knot
real prairie
gentle cragBOT
spiral ridge
chrome knot
#

sorry i don’t understand the casual mind to help

spiral ridge
#

If they lead that just swap typh out it won’t do too much probably

plush nova
torn parrot
#

I wanan play sentret

spiral ridge
#

Use evio furret GardeSip

torn parrot
#

Furret has good matchup

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Nono wait

spiral ridge
#

Does it?

torn parrot
#

I meant to say furret and sentret have one single good matchup

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Alolan muk

spiral ridge
#

Oh really.
Ima start taking them then

plush nova
#

If I see a Furret in team preview, I'm sweating because my opponent clearly knows something I don't.

shrewd karma
spiral ridge
#

Sometimes opponents are just silly

torn parrot
#

Yes Keen eye is not useless because it is good against that one thing

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So furret is officially god

shrewd karma
#

that might not be accurate though

torn parrot
#

I love him or her or it

spiral ridge
#

Does chomp not run bulk??

chrome knot
torn parrot
spiral ridge
#

I’m sure some run at least HP

shrewd karma
#

oh wait nvm I’m acoustic

chrome knot
#

252 SpA Typhlosion-Hisui Shadow Ball vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Garchomp: 73-87 (39.8 - 47.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

chrome knot
spiral ridge
chrome knot
#

0.0

torn parrot
#

Okay it’s time

#

For furret LETS GO FURRET

torn parrot
#

WE GONNA FURRET

plush nova
torn parrot
#

people havnt cracked furret yet only sentret

spiral ridge
plush nova
spiral ridge
#

I hate this emote purely for the fact the small ass sparkle means I can’t use it without nitro

torn parrot
#

Yass

spiral ridge
torn parrot
#

5 dollar sparkles

spiral ridge
#

exactly I’m just using free trial so only time I get to use this

torn parrot
#

Byabyabya

shrewd karma
real prairie
torn parrot
#

You can’t run this furret set because then your officially running Furret for no reason

chrome knot
torn parrot
#

I wanna run endeavor focus sash furret

real prairie
torn parrot
#

(((:

craggy dagger
real prairie
craggy dagger
#

then you don’t go down to multi hit moves

craggy dagger
torn parrot
#

It’s cus then there’s no reason your using furret over maushold

spiral ridge
torn parrot
#

You have to do what furret can only do

shrewd karma
#

2 of the same moves

craggy dagger
#

cause its really good-

torn parrot
#

Knock off or endeavor make furret unique

craggy dagger
#

it gets knock off

chrome knot
#

yes

torn parrot
#

so I must use one of those

chrome knot
#

thats how it ohkos csr in reg g lmfao

craggy dagger
#

ok i’m making a team with the sock ferret

spiral ridge
#

Sock?

spiral ridge
#

Awweeee

#

I never watched this I completely fucking forgot to

torn parrot
#

I want

#

An XXXL

#

Or XXXS

#

shiny furret

spiral ridge
#

I miss 24/7 furret escalator stream :(

torn parrot
#

is there any other strategy with evassiveness stuff

#

sand veil and snow

#

thats two

shrewd karma
#

does minimize count?

torn parrot
#

yes

#

furret has sucker punch and quick attack

#

neat

spiral ridge
#

Dark Tera furret time

chrome knot
torn parrot
#

if you did do endeavor

#

you could get away with endure over protect

tranquil kraken
tranquil kraken
spiral ridge
#

:3

chrome knot
#

extremely deserved

#

they also literaaalllyyy just made it worse

tranquil kraken
spiral ridge
#

SHUT UP YOURE ATTACKING ME IN PUBLIC AND DMS 😭

#

I CANT COVER MY ASS EVERYWHRRE

#

My edgey profile can not withstand this shit vesseldread

#

Artorias can hold back the void but not the allegations

torn parrot
#

you guys have no idea how difficult it is to make furret not feel like budget maushold and budget sentret

zinc totem
#

what tera you would recommend for overqwil

rustic mountain
rustic mountain
#

jus generally a good defensive typing

molten oasis
#

so uh, im in a situation with my team

#

if garchomp dies i cant really hit either, and im unsure what to do about it

torn parrot
dull ibex
#

no where near enough to play bad mons for the sake of it

torn parrot
#

😔

molten oasis
#

let her believe its fine

dull ibex
#

wdym let her believe

torn parrot
#

thank you drago

zinc totem
molten oasis
#

just let her believe furret can work

dull ibex
#

but like it can't

molten oasis
#

and in this format it probably can tbh

dull ibex
#

nobody is stopping her from using it anyways

molten oasis
#

exactly

dull ibex
#

so then I dont need to pretend it does anyways

molten oasis
#

yep

tiny karmaBOT
#
Pokémon No. 171: Lanturn
Types

Water/Electric

Abilities

Volt Absorb, Illuminate, Water Absorb (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

125/58/58/76/76/67

Total

460

rustic mountain
#

i didnt tera it much but found water jus gave it good flexibility wen i needed to

molten oasis
#

overquil is real, i dont see it at all

#

but it looks, fine ig

dull ibex
#

ive been trying flying tera on porygon im meh on it

craggy dagger
#

grass or bug might be better .-.

molten oasis
#

the sauce is tera fighting

dull ibex
#

yes for incin and gambit iirc

molten oasis
#

fr lol

torn parrot
#

i tried black glasses overquil it felt pretty jnice

dull ibex
#

tera ghost is real shish

rustic mountain
molten oasis
#

and unfortunately overquil cant hit gambit

#

and gambit is, really strong rn, and its kicking my ass

#

nice into dengo tho

tiny karmaBOT
#
Pokémon No. 904: Overqwil
Types

Dark/Poison

Abilities

Poison Point, Swift Swim, Intimidate (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

85/115/95/65/65/85

Total

510

rustic mountain
#

poison type being walled by a steel type u dont say? pepogld

molten oasis
rustic mountain
#

me wen my sneasler is facing a dengo: bruh

molten oasis
#

lmfao

#

im probably that guy

#

the one with dengo

rustic mountain
#

theres a lot of dengo on ladder

dull ibex
molten oasis
#

dengo's so good

rustic mountain
#

yea

molten oasis
#

feels consistent

dull ibex
#

mine > yours

molten oasis
dull ibex
#

L bozo

molten oasis
#

tbf you're mu into gambit and incin is real

#

my mu is protect the garchomp or you lose

dull ibex
#

Oh off topic I think my switch 2 plans went up in smoke I think YAY

molten oasis
#

lmao

#

that sucks man

dull ibex
#

im depressed about it

dull ibex
#

what are you confused about

zinc totem
#

i might give overqwil poison jab beacuse gunk shot never hits LUL

bold geode
#

How they go up in smoke

dull ibex
#

my dad says he doesnt want me to not have anything to open up for christmas so putting the money into savings as a gift was a bust, now he wants to go epcot as a family (I dont like Disney World) which would likely be it for gifts except for my baby brother who gets what he wanted anyways

bold geode
dull ibex
#

basically

#

that is not my dad meant it of course he wants to bond as a family

#

but uh yeah my christmas joy was snuffed out

bold geode
#

I mean yeah family bonding do be important so

molten oasis
#

thats lame

dull ibex
#

I dont like walking, I don't like disney

#

so this is making me depressed and I can't complain because that would be horribly selfish

bold geode
#

Bro doesn't like walking

dull ibex
#

yes thank you monke

#

why did i share this here.

molten oasis
#

walking around an amusement park for 6-10 hours sucks

bold geode
#

Brother at this point I'd just find some way to get money to save up
Don't gotta be a job, find it via like a hobby thing or some other way
At least what I'd try to do

bold geode
dull ibex
bold geode
#

Wtf is epcot anyways

molten oasis
dull ibex
#

also if we can't do anything about george I would just stay home with him

bold geode
dull ibex
#

so it really does just feel like im shit out of luck

molten oasis
bold geode
#

Oh I'm just a little bitch then lmao

molten oasis
#

they freak me out but not enough for me to wimp out

bold geode
#

I just can't bring myself to do it
My paranoia gets the best of me

dull ibex
bold geode
#

My dumbass will literally be like "what if I get to the top and when it stops I just keep going up" like gravity is just gonna go away lmao
But like even the dumbest of thoughts just makes me go nope

#

Unless like
I've been on a couple where I couldn't see anything

#

Also and I really don't mean this in a hateful way I promise

molten oasis
#

nah you're good

#

the fear is understandable they're scary

bold geode
#

It don't help that I always would sit next to someone who had a little too much to eat if you get the jist

#

WHAT
IT'S WORSE CUZ THE FUCKING RESTRAINTS DON'T GO DOWN ALL THE WAY

#

HOW CAN I ENJOY A ROLLERCOASTER WHEN MY ASS IS COMING OFF THE SEAT HALFWAY

dull ibex
#

my parents don't know if they can pull off epcot

bold geode
#

Wtf is epcot

dull ibex
#

I feeel stupid because im angry

bold geode
#

What part of Disney is epcot

bold geode
#

This don't look any different from other Disney shit

dull ibex
#

its about food instead of theme park rides

torn parrot
bold geode
#

Kinda pog coming from a fatass (me not you)

torn parrot
#

gunk shot is a 5 hit ko
poin jab is a 2 hit ko

dull ibex
#

and I dont know how should I feel about this

#

its not grateful and I feel bad its not grateful

molten oasis
#

hey maya, could i ask for some team advice again?

torn parrot
#

sure thing i can try

molten oasis
#

finding gambit/incin to feel, pretty much unbeatable

torn parrot
#

dunno hw much help ill be

molten oasis
#

any helps lol

#

i can barely hit gambit and incin, i think i need a fighting type

#

idk where, but it needs to happen

zinc totem
#

im rn so confused

#

i got psychic terrain up but people do extreme speed in it Hmmge

torn parrot
zinc totem
#

how people can do extreme speed in psychic terrain LUL doesnt make sense as psychic terrain stops all priority moves yes?

molten oasis
#

also this needs to be in addition to chomp lol

zinc totem
molten oasis
#

i thought about primarina but gambits the bigger issue

zinc totem
#

and earlier i was against fake out mienshao Hmmge

torn parrot
molten oasis
#

over?

torn parrot
#

i suppose it would be hydreigon

#

but yeha not sure if itll work

molten oasis
#

i, well

#

i need tw

torn parrot
#

good point

molten oasis
#

but i also feel like the team needs redirection and fo and, ugh

#

i wish wellspring/hearthflame were legal lol

#

i dont disagree with flamigo tho

#

oh flamigo would need the sash

deep coyote
#

I just caught a 6iv shiny ditto from a 5 star raid. Is that rare?

molten oasis
#

wtf

deep coyote
molten oasis
#

That’s insanely rare

deep coyote
#

I can't send the picture here 😦

#

I don't know why

deep coyote
torn parrot
deep coyote
#

I'll dm the pic

#

I can't send photo here

bold geode
deep coyote
molten oasis
#

my team may need to be reworked again

#

eh no the core is fine

#

i'll figure it out

bold geode
# deep coyote How can I find that out
  1. It's trade banned in this server so that's not a good start
  2. Even if it could be real, the odds of getting that would be so damn low you'd be safer always to assume it's hacked
#

And 3 as a check man since I know he'd probably know

#

@feral wraith sorry in advance bbgirl
Shiny 6IV Ditto from a raid, 100% hacked right

deep coyote
#

@bold geode I think Maya has helped me figure it out

#

In the raid

#

There was a twitch person

bold geode
#

Make that 200%

deep coyote
#

And his twitch is just a bunch of screens

bold geode
#

Make it 300%

deep coyote
#

😢😢😢

#

Should I delete it?

torn parrot
#

it's a bot that used a hacked switch to rng manip for the raid
you technically cant get in trouble with gamefreak for it but but it's not legit either

bold geode
#

Do whatever you want with it (except for trading it in this server, you will get in trouble if you do so)

feral wraith
stark kindle
#

I mean. Its from a 6 screen twitcher. I'd be surprised if it wasn't bottled.

bold geode
feral wraith
#

Yes you did

deep coyote
#

Nah I'm not gonna trade

feral wraith
#

Hi Mickey, how's the flowers I sent you?

bold geode
zinc totem
#

does indeedee get any use tera fairy dazzling gleam in reg H or should i go psychic instead of d gleam?

torn parrot
#

@molten oasis if you try like electabuzz or magnmar maybe get away with no speed control just because they live for so long you can stall out stuff

#

but i dont think no speed control is like too too bad

#

if you have like priority to make up for it i think teams can go without speed control

#

you dont have prio tho so thats where i get it

#

yeha its like a

#

a tough one

#

for sure

molten oasis
#

and at that point we play chua's team

#

and i think dengo is good here

#

maybe electabuzz over amoonguss and then flamigo

zinc totem
boreal mauveBOT
#
Shiny Popplio
#
Normal Popplio
torn parrot
#

what the heck

torn parrot
#

cool team

zinc totem
torn parrot
#

i feel ya

#

the comfort is where its at

bold geode
torn parrot
#

oh i should use that

#

whats the command

#

my good sir

molten oasis
molten oasis
#

still needed tw

torn parrot
molten oasis
torn parrot
#

Honestly can probably just keep testing different things in battles till you find what your looking for

molten oasis
#

probably

dull ibex
#

ok now that ive calmed down

#

ill keep yall posted on the switch 2 situation

torn parrot
dull ibex
torn parrot
#

What’s the switch 2 situation

dull ibex
#

dwbi

fleet cipher
#

Lookin for someone to help me optimize my team. Its got me hovering bout 6k in ranked but i think if i can get full efficent ev spreads, it can be a top 1k team

fleet cipher
fleet cipher
#

The general is Sylveon, Rillaboom, Talonflame, Hisu Typhlosion, Palifin and Garchomp

#

The loadout im pretty confident in, its the min maxing of my ev spreads im not entirely sure of anymore as it seems to be pretty different these daya

solid frigate
fleet cipher
#

Yeah, yeah id say its pretty balaced overall. A nuke in sylveon and typhlosion, good natural bulk in palafin rilla and chomp and good speed and supoort in flame. Problem is i dont think my ev spreads are good enough

solid frigate
#

due to Prankster can help on Typhlosion

#

as Tailwind and Sun setter

minor fossil
#

If I were to use Hippowdon as a bulky yawn/slack off mon, what EV spread would be the best?

mighty stump
#

Max HP Max SpDef 4 Def since it's paper SpDef side to start then you can adjust from there lul

minor fossil
#

Thanks, I assume nature is +Sp.D, -Sp.A?

foggy lodge
mighty stump
#

I had early access to the team 😎

foggy lodge
#

whattt

#

how?

mighty stump
#

I'm friends with Yotam?

#

Lol

foggy lodge
#

ohhh

mighty stump
#

Good team

foggy lodge
#

I didn't know that lol

mighty stump
#

Yotam's results with it were pretty crazy outside of the regional

#

Top 10 Bo3 ladder and whatnot

foggy lodge
#

im curious about why 6 speed iv Ursaluna, if with those ivs outspeeds something or just they just didn't mind too much about 0 speed

chrome knot
chrome knot
fleet cipher
hardy mesa
#

It was like a virtual lobby irl lol
Oh recently, I was at the Orlando one when it was first 2 years ago
Every high level comp player was there

boreal mauveBOT
#
#230 Kingdra Water <:water:772863431534444595> / Dragon <:dra:772863431438237746>
Misc. info

Generation II
Gender Ratio:
50.0% ♂️ / 50.0% ♀️
Height/Weight:
1.8m / 152.0kg
Catch Rate:
45
Egg Groups: **
Water 1
Dragon**

Base Stats

HP: 75
Atk: 95
Def: 95
SpA: 95
SpD: 95
Spe: 85
Total: 540

Abilities

Ability 1:
Swift Swim
Ability 2:
Sniper
Hidden Ability:
Damp

Dens

Sword: 131, 132
Shield: 131, 132

little quartz
#

But it’s a fact lol

mighty stump
#

Lol

bold geode
chrome knot
#

lmao

little quartz
#

IMAO

bold geode
little quartz
#

Bruh

#

If APAC had a regional

#

Tofu would be high up there

chrome knot
#

I am sneased to meet them

bold geode
#

I am sneased to meet them

bold geode
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Actually aren't you like
Oceania region?
Give back OCIC

solid frigate
little quartz
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Yes I am

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Just 2 regs

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And 20 invites lol

chrome knot
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and 8 online events

bold geode
mighty stump
foggy lodge
rustic mountain
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new cybertron vid jus dropped

solid frigate
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noice

molten oasis
rustic mountain
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its ape time

forest arrow
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Hello

misty helm
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would you guys say a win rate of 40 percent is good for a playing for fun type of player

torn parrot
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every time you tried him

molten oasis
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I mean, I can try it out

molten oasis
torn parrot
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I know the reason why I keep coming back to tauros is that he’s a good boy into incin and gambit

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Lemme see

torn parrot
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Like are you cool with those 5v

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Wait a minute

molten oasis
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I haven’t felt like I needed intimidate

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Mirror herb Tauros might be ok tho

torn parrot
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This is unrelated but if you give it azumarill a choice band is the boost doubled

molten oasis
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Or scarf ape, cuz the mu into whimsi ty is really rough atm

molten oasis
torn parrot
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sadly I would rather click hyper voice than a 150 base attack liquidation

molten oasis
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Primarina might not be bad either

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Consistent chip is nice, and it does a good amount into typhlosion

misty helm
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would you guys say 40 percent win rate is good considering I'm playing for fun

torn parrot
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I like her

torn parrot
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Uhm

bold geode
torn parrot
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I mean if your playing for fun the winrate doesn’t really matter but

It’s not good if serious

molten oasis
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I’m also ok with dropping amoonguss but I’d need a dozo mu

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Which Primarina technically does

bold geode
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Oh Cybertron is featuring that team

torn parrot
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Who you replacing with

molten oasis
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Uhm, idk

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The question is do I really need fake out and/or redirection

torn parrot
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Not really

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Well if it’s nasty plot dengo it gets tough but I think you can probably manage

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Like I’m sure it works without redirection

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I don’t think you need anything specifically

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Iv seen a lot of things work without conventional answers

misty helm
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why have the past two pseudo legendary Pokemon had a very specific prehistoric animal base and been super dominate in the meta game