#competitive_discussion
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Y not Prima?
Hengo?
there are my evs i run normally on metal coat hengo: EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 132 SpA / 12 SpD / 108 Spe
Hholhengo baby lfg
so i wonder if that works with specs 
Nightshade on Murkrow useful at all?
Hholhengo my goat
i just prefer sylveon over prima as fairy special attacker 
Foul play>
Okay then
have FP anyway
Then you don’t need night shade
you either pivot with murkrow using u-turn or be more damage with foul play which is more general usage
cheers
oneofakindof has given 1 Gen Rep to drayagedrago
People run u-turn murkrow???
Holedengo, Edgecineroar, Rillagoon
No they don't
Dawg
Foul Play is pretty meh this Reg. Just BBird tbh
its very niche usage for it
So it’s NOT used 👍
i never said people use u-turn 
I don't see the justification for it
So what did this mean then
This implies people run u-turn murkrow
my english is not best 
Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Assurance, Astonish, Brave Bird, Double-Edge, Drill Peck, Dual Wingbeat, Facade, Feint Attack, Fly, Foul Play, Frustration, Giga Impact, Lash Out, Natural Gift, Payback, Peck, Pluck, Pursuit, Quick Attack, Retaliate, Return, Secret Power, Sky Attack, Steel Wing, Sucker Punch, Take Down, Thief, U-turn, Wing Attack
Air Cutter, Air Slash, Dark Pulse, Dream Eater, Gust, Heat Wave, Hex, Hidden Power, Hurricane, Hyper Beam, Icy Wind, Mud-Slap, Night Shade, Ominous Wind, Psychic, Psychic Noise, Round, Shadow Ball, Snarl, Snore, Swift, Tera Blast, Twister, Uproar
Attract, Calm Mind, Captivate, Confide, Confuse Ray, Curse, Defog, Detect, Double Team, Embargo, Endure, Feather Dance, Flatter, Haze, Mean Look, Mimic, Mirror Move, Nasty Plot, Nightmare, Perish Song, Protect, Psych Up, Psycho Shift, Quash, Rain Dance, Rest, Roost, Scary Face, Screech, Sleep Talk, Snatch, Spite, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Tailwind, Taunt, Thunder Wave, Torment, Toxic, Whirlwind
A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Murkrow.
Fat movepool
definetly has, hazekrow is just 
hm
https://pokepast.es/b3be1b9a7e9f9f80 I played with this more I kinda don’t like the dnite, is there smth I can place over it?
but i guess these evs are fine for specs hengo 252 HP / 4 Def / 132 SpA / 12 SpD / 108 Spe 
Specs Dengo shouldn't be slower than max spe
if i put max speed, its harder spread bulk for it i think
I’d just go max max personally
which is why i run that more on metal coat hengo
ig i return to nasty plot hengo then
What's the bulk for first
Lol
Since with Specs you're trying to maximise both offense and now defense, so it has to be specific reasons
Spe is arguably the most important stat
yeah. bulk was more to try help survive mons like incineroar,harcanine and such
Did you actually run calcs
Becuase there is a certain point of "why would I be trying to live this" and it becomes non-relevant
It takes a lot to live hits from harc, and idt it’s worth it
i forgotn power gem is threat for incine 
Probably doesn’t ohko
I just ran into a guy running weak armor destiny bond armarogue
So you might get wiped
i mean there is very little that can OHKO incine (close combat is one of these that can)
low elo reg h ladder is cursed
he forfeited after turn 1 when his annihalape KOd his own armarogue
😂
ikr, i fell to low elo again beacuse running random teams to test around and i saw veyr random grassy terrain trickroom whimsi 
the only game I lose are to people running the weirdest sets of all time
I'll never hit 1600
yes?
Surging Strokes
I ran into a guy running quash murkrow next to indeedee 🙀
run taunt instead of brave bird
and you dont go offence on murkrow i dont think
taunt is useless in Psy terrain no?
and another using rain dance with typhlosion and torkoal
I doubt you really pick Murkrow against psyspam tbh
you don't bring murkrow against psyspam
as a (delphox) psyspam user myself i would lick my chops and click heat wave vs a murkrow
you leave murkrow back against psyspam
they use trickroom anyway
just use Tera Dark Amogus
new psyspam is espeon or delphox, it lowk cooks because u can run it outside of TR just like iron crown
plus it has a good MU into gholdengo
well, delphox does
I've seen a ton of random tera dark espeon lately
uhhh no? Psyspam is still run by Armarouge and Hatterene?
im runnning psyspam lol
this specifically lol
Tera Psychic better
I like faster mons so I never run hard trick room
OK IRON CROWN IS FRAUD IN PSYCHIC TERRAIN I'M SORRY
😂 ppl used to bitch about it back in reg f
Nope its Fraud
Is it tho?
it cooks trust
how to tell you are coping without telling you are coping
LMFAO

tera dark means no prankster taunt tho
Not worried about that
🙀 murkrow and whimsicott would like to have a chat with you
You can run Mental Herb if you want tbh
any speed taunt will beat out amoonguss silly
That too
I'm also brelooms second strongest soldier besides the guy that randomly top cut Baltimore with it
Also Delphox is dumb but valid rn
Mental Herb worth it trust
sitrus/rocky helm
I'm gonna run tera poisin max spA amoongus
for ultimate damage
theres my cue to leave
AHAHAHAHA
yeah, it's not the best pick but it does work in a lot of situations just bc it's one of the fastest expanding force users that has even decent special attack

one time I used scarf garchomp with helping hand
You’re kidding right?
no
Don’t use max spa amoonguss
nooooo
ok this was a joke I'd never use that
chat quality droppedddd i wanna go to work
alright enough cooking in team builder it's time to hit da gym then study for diff eq
Espeon magic bounce >
i'm gonna just adios in the chat
I’ve never heard someone want to go to work lol
Emma is tired of the chat quality lol
😂 gotta bounce back those vgc stealth rocks
Fall off is insane
Doesn’t take much for the quality of this chat to drop lol
just throw some new people here
https://pokepast.es/b3be1b9a7e9f9f80 does Prima work here over dnite?
tofu is chat leader 
:/
chat is this real
Idk
idk
Does Primarina have to run haze?
its good to have but dunn about must have
not really when you have Clear Smog Amogus
also Amoonguss Walls Dozo in theory and literally
but if you scared of Setup mons that are Steel Types who can't be clear Smog'd then i guess but its your choice
https://pokepast.es/2275024673e274af thoughts?
Eq is risky but I have 3 protects
(Perish song opens endgame win conditions)
definently works
I have perish song, but tbh having protect on amoonguss sounds so nice
Having a flying type would still be nice
But if i time my eq’s well I should be fine
Could be rock slide instead
i mean Rock Slide on Chomp i don't think its Necessary
You have multiple mons covering its Ice Weakness
I was thinking of talonflame
Sweeeet
EQ Chomp is still a thing so it works
It got second lol
yeah exactly
I’m not saying it’s bad tho
(Despite that there was Flying type there)
Was just a suggestion
Nothing more
its really nice to have a Ground move that is Spread damage for it so it make sense its in Most sets
I have incin so probably not talon
tho i still don't understand why Grassy Terrain nerfs EQ-
I never said earthquake is bad but it makes complete sense why I would say rock slide since you were just talking about having no flying type
Mods is this real
Bug/Flying
Shield Dust, Compound Eyes, Friend Guard (Hidden)
80/52/50/90/50/89
411
Vivillon-Fancy, Vivillon-Pokeball
still think Amogus fits
But again,its your own Choice
Monke
https://pokepast.es/13cc602d5d195a78 can we add a flying type anywhere or is this fine?
This made me pissy
Acting like I don’t know why a mf ran earthquake next to his flying type
Flying type for garchomp
Ima let it go

I’m just gonna keep this
For now, honestly I clicked eq a lot without dnite
I think I’ll be fine
Yeah it’s fine
Could go Tera flying dengo lol
i mean its better than some Teras for Dengo lol
Nah I think dragon Tera is fine
Yeah at the end of the day you don’t have to click it
tho at least your team feels complete
Idk mine still is a mess
the 2nd one can be so deflating i really hate wen ppl do that
especially the higher up u get
is that Dondozo's tongue
So tree I think gambit is just better on that team
fair
Dengo felt weird
well atleast u gave it a shot
I have Prima over dnite rn lol
I think the comp is fine, dnite felt weird
Dnite was supporting the gambit a lot
I don’t feel the same way with dengo
i think yea they generally cover each other decently specifically gambit providing anti intimidate for the multiscale
For sure
I’m just trying to stick with good stuffs rn, +a9
Dengo a9 chomp feels good so I’m sticking with it
those incin shroom and prim?
i think throat spray is bad on prim ngl
I didn’t know what else to slot
weirdly sitrus did well at baltimore
i mean its the only option besides sitrus
not even weirdly it was to be a better dozo check
but i didnt think itd have such a strong conversion
Oh, I’m down to use sitrus
least used in day 1 to most used item in day 2 for prim
Do you have a link to the list of teams
go to victory road
thanks
it posts the results and team pastes
Went 0-3 and only won a single game with the rain team lmao
mystic water/splash plate or lo also could be used but drago has chomp using the lo
How you guys know these stats

https://victoryroadvgc.com/2025-baltimore/ it was right on the front page first thing

yeh its 2025 season
Oh I see the season
not 2025 yet tho haha
i was watching tub nation and they had some site that compiles the data, i forget wat its called
Idt throat spray was great either it just, what I’ve used this format
And I wanna keep it that way lol
The LORB on chomp
yea i think u jus want either the immediate damage from lo/water boosting item or that survivability w/ sitrus like for dozo so u can switch in and take 2 attacks before getting ur haze off
I think sitrus is a good idea
Amoonguss still comes to that mu, so it can support Primarina
Keep it alive with pollen puff
You guys were acting like I’m stupid but I’m seeing every single earthquake has a flying type
so poo you guys
?
Not you
Dawg idk where to put a flying type for chomp lol
oh lmao im like huh
I held a grudge
Incin amoonguss a9 dengo chomp are locks for me
It’s the 6th I’m not completely sure about, Prima does look solid on the team
It’s add a flying type or run a flying Tera
You don’t need a flying type
Ight
Prima it is for now
I need smth for gc
I’ll go sitrus on Prima
This look ok?
i mean i can see it
yeah i think it looks good
i mean better than me i did not even built my confirmed run Reg H team
lol
Got any on showdown?
I bet you can do it
Ty guys, I don’t show it much but I do appreciate the help
sand with Htyphlo
Fast Eruption
PeliArcha
you can probably build it in time
no like (I have Skill Issue and none crack 1400)
Which was your best one?
Still Peli Archa cuz i have Experience in Reg F
But all are Equal
Well it’s no worries if you don’t wanna make it in game
I may skip gc as well
So ur not alone
Ok so locals are coming up for me and I need to finalize my team.
I'm bringing Typhlosion-H, Primarina, Whimsicott, Ursaluna-BM, Farigiraf, Kingambit
My question is, what item should I run on Typh? I like Scarf, Specs, and Charcoal
its rare to see me still indescisive with my team
Cuz Reg F-G i locked into one Archetype and works
Scarf is the Best cuz Whims with Sunny Day boost Damage
I mean he has tailwind I don’t think scarf is nessesary
Yeah I'm between Scarf and Charcoal right now. I have 3 Protects (ursa, farigiraf, prima), and I'm unsure if a 4th would be good or not
Scarf is there for TW mirrors
Primarina looks like for Rain Anwser or just coverage?
Coverage, rain, and Dozo/Archa answer
magic bounce Parting shots, encore, hypnosis, leech seed, sleep powder, Spore, Taunt and so on
looks good,at least it has a Purpose
It's also won me a game by clicking Encore with Whims into Salamence Draco Meteor and was in position to sweep
i mean good for you
We love/Hate Encore Lock lol

Hoi Nova
I once Encore locked someone into Trick Room (they didn't have giraffe or Indeedee and I instantly won since TW Ursa nuked his whole team)
It’s true but your also a trick room team so you do good into tailwind
life orb and run protect 😄
i mean those are good example of game techs
what are we cooking
Just finished helping Drago and now LexLuxray doing a Tailroom Htyphlosion team
for what?
I think a damage item on Typhlosion is better for this i think
You beat the tailwind mirror with trick room
in general i suppose, does it have a use case
at this point just use Whimsicott
grim is a better screens setter-
imo sableye is good for trick taunt
if you can't find a Use that other mons don't have then don't use it
yeah, seems to be the bottom of the barrel prankster mon in the format
i smell specs or lorb
Charcoal + Protect over Sleep Talk?
Sure
Ye or Overheat is also pretty good
i keep on forgetting overheat exists-
i’m a chi yu player i should know abt this move 
lol
at least you did not forget your 5K Attack Robin lol
Honestly tho it looks pretty solid I like it
I'm now wondering if I should put more speed into Ursa, or less Speed (currently EVd to outspeed max speed Maushold if I have Tailwind)
And so Primarina always underspeeds in TR
https://cut-explorer.stalruth.dev/2025/regional-baltimore heres the data site i was mentioning b4 for item useage and what not
Fine grained analytical tool for the 2025 Baltimore Regional Championships Top Cut teams.
Ohh I gotcha thank you
Labmaus also a good resource
That's actually really good I get insight into what other Typhlosion are running so I can work with that
Just need to fix a couple EVs maybe, Typhlosion and Prima are suspect
best defensive type for Sneasler?
Is that my muthafuckin bestie right there
tera that is
Hai Nova
yo
They ussually don’t run defensive types but offensive ones that kinda double as sorta defensive ones
whats with the Southern Accent lol
flying gives 1 immunity, 2 neutral and stab boosted Acrobatics. Steel gives it 2 resists but keeps its weakness to ground.
Maybe cuz I'm Southern
Dark throat chop also a consideration
I think it depends what your 3rd move is
im wondering if swords dance is worth it but imagine not
You risk being Encore locked into it
would do it under the cover of follow me most likely
fuck it we ball
Always fuck it we ball
so Swords dance, dire claw, Close Combat? 👀
Oh true
The more Mr beast gets canceled the more his subscribers go up
It’s like reverse canceling
whats with tha-
Whenever I see a new Mr beast is done video
I check his subscriber count
And it’s always more than the last time I checked
The internet is stupid
its more like
Kids
remember Logan Paul? Its basically like that
Bro has worse Busniess track Record yet one single product Brand that i am not calling any names makes Kids buy them
Its all based on Kids
they can't
cuz more fans and kids would be oblivious to it
without knowing the situation
I cannot forget
Internet moment honestly
Anyways my team feels really good the way it is. I made a couple changes (Typh item, Ursaluna & Primarina EVs, Farigiraf Tera Type)
Locals are this Sunday, and I'm both nervous and excited
Yayy
It's my first locals too so I'm really hyped to officially get into the VGC scene
Meanwhile Me:
Waiting for Janurary for my debut in in person events
Me and a school buddy are doing vgc stuff together (she's bringing a kleavor team that's prettygood)
why are you so Lucky ;-;
Aaaaa
I mean by "locals" I mean it's like 2 cities over, but it's worth it Imo to officially get some live experience
I mean its good
Anybody down to help me run practice matches on Showdown?
i wish my art school would play vgc
Ok I just found the strangest team on ladder
Tera Fire Incineroar with Throat Chop over Knock Off
Tera Grass Amoonguss
Tera Dark FRISK Grimmsnarl
Overgrow Rillaboom
And then Garchomp + Gholdengo
I didn't even look at OTS I just assumed Prankster Grimm
Why does amoonguss learn stomping tantrum
what
Astonish, Bide, Body Slam, Bullet Seed, Facade, Feint Attack, Foul Play, Frustration, Giga Impact, Payback, Return, Rollout, Secret Power, Seed Bomb, Stomping Tantrum
Absorb, Clear Smog, Energy Ball, Giga Drain, Grass Knot, Hex, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Leaf Storm, Magical Leaf, Mega Drain, Pollen Puff, Round, Sludge Bomb, Snore, Solar Beam, Tera Blast, Venoshock
After You, Attract, Confide, Defense Curl, Double Team, Endure, Flash, Gastro Acid, Grassy Terrain, Growth, Ingrain, Nature Power, Poison Powder, Protect, Rage Powder, Rain Dance, Rest, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Spore, Stun Spore, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Sweet Scent, Synthesis, Toxic, Worry Seed
A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Amoonguss.
would failing spore due to taunt boost stomping?
Yea
it has more attack than Talonflame btw lol
idek why
outside of Cynthia?
I named it Mako
ehhhhh probably works
Anyway my gc team is done
Team needs speed control ig which people said p2 but im kinda against it due to it just turning into p2 ursa balance
Which, removes a9
How many of those were P2
I played some games with this, idt p2 feels good
It feels like it clashes too much with garchomp and a9
That or I’m not playing it well but after like 20 games I’m just not sure on it
I think speed control is a good thing to put there, idk what speed control tho
I’m gonna look at flying types w/ tw to add
Flamigo, dnite maybe, corv, mence, talon, murkrow, or vivillon feel like the only options
Or priority, that also works
none which sucks cuz i wanted to get atleast a cppl games in vs the updated meta
instead i got some person trynna cheese me w/ specs tera normal h zoroark

Someone tried to cheese me with boomburst toxtricity and h zoroark
whens the registration deadline?
End of December
for global challenge?
in 3ish hours i think
hey comp players, if you somehow dont have a 0atk 31 iv ditto i am currently hosting one in #tera_raids
thanks for this
Honestly
Kinda fire lmao
Stop lol
just seen a white herb sneasler
That’s not, that bad
That's normal lmao
im not sure if its genius or not
Specs Amoongus time
Oh so Choice Scarf Amoongus
So let incin fake it out then nuke someone with stomping tantrum cuz he got mad he couldn’t play the game
Anyway
amoonguss is a special attacker
So Band Amoongus got it
Grass/Poison
Effect Spore, Regenerator (Hidden)
114/85/70/85/80/30
464
Need I say more
It's physical attack is actually the same lmao
Higher than talonfoame
Astonish, Bide, Body Slam, Bullet Seed, Facade, Feint Attack, Foul Play, Frustration, Giga Impact, Payback, Return, Rollout, Secret Power, Seed Bomb, Stomping Tantrum
Absorb, Clear Smog, Energy Ball, Giga Drain, Grass Knot, Hex, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Leaf Storm, Magical Leaf, Mega Drain, Pollen Puff, Round, Sludge Bomb, Snore, Solar Beam, Tera Blast, Venoshock
After You, Attract, Confide, Defense Curl, Double Team, Endure, Flash, Gastro Acid, Grassy Terrain, Growth, Ingrain, Nature Power, Poison Powder, Protect, Rage Powder, Rain Dance, Rest, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Spore, Stun Spore, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Sweet Scent, Synthesis, Toxic, Worry Seed
A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Amoonguss.
Fire/Flying
Flame Body, Gale Wings (Hidden)
78/81/71/74/69/126
499
It learns Seed Bomb just saying 
someone just cooked me with wind rider suckerpunch shiftry
if u have the mons and resources in game def shouldnt take 3 hours (2 now)

I think i actually like Porygon2 Ursaluna,,,
i have to try Dawei's variant too its so interesting
i asked her for piloting advice and its a hard ass team to pilot lmfao
Thoughts? https://pokepast.es/4563ec20eff9ca90
Cores:
Rock - Flying - Fighting
Dark - Psychic - Fighting
Ground - Poison - Grass
Flying - Grass - Rock
think thats it lol
protect shouldnt be on Ttar, ignore that
Ddance too
I don't and I am in class
yeah, GLHF everyone
i locked in a team i’ve played 0 games with lol
same
how hard can p2 ursa be
i wanted to use my old GC team of smeargle + farig + torkoal with eject pack smeargle
but I couldn’t find a good replacement for Urshifu
although gallade probably would have worked RIP
bean
happy gc weekend everyone!!
That is the heart of gc right there
Dawei’s?
yes
The dolphin lol
Based
I'm actually really enjoying this team, put white herb over lifeorb on Torterra, swapped a couple moves and it's cooking so far. Feels balanced
I'm sure I'm missing a big weakness somewhere but I can't see it
The coverage looks poor
You have 2 mons that can hit Gholdengo
Lol
One of them weak to it
This is it after some changes https://pokepast.es/e6dc467ce29a429d
But happy to hear improvements
Think I need to run a different dragonite set though as he's the Mon I'm taking the least
- Poor coverage v Gholdengo
- Psychic over Hyper Voice on Indeedee
- You’re forcing yourself to take a turn just to get a damage boost rather than just having immediate damage from the get go with Espeon + not exactly the bulkiest thing out there. EVs look wasteful when you ideally want the Spe and SpA. Psychic Terrain is on a timer and you can’t waste it setting up.
- Walled by Gholdengo type Sneasler
- Low Kick is better than Body Press. Not seeing what Heavy Slam is giving you exactly. 0 damage Ttar
- Dnite is whatever but looks extremely committed to Teraing if you’re going to bring it
- No comment on Torterra.
i just beated someone named keegan 
Thanks I'll take it onboard and make some changes now, my comments as to why I made those decisions.
hypervoice was intended to be another move walled by imprison, seeing as quite a few mons run it.
Yeah I was trying something different with espeon but tbh going full speed and SpAtk makes more sense.
Sneasler I keep shifting on a 3rd move, rockslide seemed good as it has spread but I'm not glued to it.
Heavy slam was just because of Ttar weight category, any good replacement moves you'd recommend?
Yeah Dnite needs work, loaded dice works better in solos tbh.
Torterra was the last addition to the team and the one I really wasn't sure about but the one that has seemingly pleasantly surprised me.
oneofakindof has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu
I’d think dragon dance would be better in singles
Both work
Are there many mons heavier than Ttar for it to really make use of lowkick?
Watching peopel play gc and be annoyed by teams is making me glad I skipped
It kicked off already, oh my
Fake out to stop galewings is always handy
i dont got that
Emma w no Talonflame MU and Tofu w no Dozo MU
for gcs
We just need a third whos walled by Gholdengo
not in general 
Yeah I mnow
You guys
You’ve been talking to your third member this whole time
The guy whose walled by gholdengo
Ig Heavy Slam is fine, imo I just think a Ttar that can threaten Amoongiss in general is good. Tera Psychic + Tera Blast in Psy Terrain can be an option if not standard Tera Fly. Snarl is also good if you need something to slow down SpA setup
LOL
but it needs to be for GC
You called? Lol
Haha beat me to it
@mighty stump help me I'm 1-3 rn
Sounds like you guys are having fun
LOL
2-4 I wanna cry, this is so bad bro
Fuck those choices and fuck me
what r u even running
The teams pretty decent what’s going wrong monke?
The same fuckin team I fought you with
I'm 2-6 rn and genuinely Jeudy's stream is the only thing keeping me from fuckin bawlin
Genuinely fuck consistency
From now on if I do any future GCs especially for this Reg, I'm bringing bullshit that way if I lose I don't feel like I wasted a ton of fuckin work for nothing
I could genuinely join a Limitless tour rn and probably almost top cut
Hell this Reg is basically just fuck consistent pics, pull whatever out your ass and ball
No my MUs have been honest
I'm just getting outplayed so hard rn it's not even funny
Either they get me or I get myself and it genuinely is upsetting cuz I don't go to irl events
This is literally an irl event for me, I worked and prepped my mind and shit so hard for this shit just to get slammed into the earth
It's legitimately demotivating and so defeating
What sort of teams are you seeing?
No I feel ya it’s happened to me before
Best not to go into these events expecting anything to come out of it
its ok buddy
Its just GC stuff
Funnily enough, I think GC teams are better prepped against standard work compared to regular ladder teams
jeudy post
Hey
You know what would be a double fuck you
Putting a mirror herb on the defiant mon
Does that work?
That probably works
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between Fairynanbawan and ConnerTEP! Format: [Gen 9] Custom Game; Date: Sep 20, 2024
It didn’t work ):
Weegeecee
Hello, can anyone tell me why my hisu lilligant misses it’s close combats
Because you gave it hustle
Np
someone in r/pokemon got swept by a blissey 😭
First of all
you can’t spam a blissey
Second of all yeah just use a physical attack wtf
if u let a blissey set up 6 calm minds you've got bigger problems than just one blissey
problems like
literally every good physical attacker in OU outspeeds and ohkos it somehow or other
and with a nasty plot up ghold can do some decent chip before going down
and then u switch in your gambit and destroy the rest of his team
yeah he was getting flamed dw
such an easy thing to kill with even room temp IQ
where can I post pictures
Please send me link
weegeecee
im in vc 👀
Im at WORK
well don't be
dude my friend choice locked himself into make it rain ghold and last respects on basc
the probelm was my mon was p2
nice
he quickly forfeited lmao
he thought I started a trick room team to metagame him lmaooo
Weegeecee
ye
wyd torrent
nso?
nintendo switch online
I'm just chilling listening to Star Rail Ost
vc? for a bit
eh why not School is in Afternoon
ohhhh
I personally use dial up on my ti84s emulator to play my matches
May I join?
sure one second
What's the held item to breed my sneasler into more sneaslers?
Hey, I'm currently stumped. I am attempting to make a team for regh but nothing is really sticking or clicking right.
I'm open to ideas and advice.
I've tried weather, balanced, and even dived a little into TR.
I'm rusty at team building. Recently I have seen Dragon types going around so I feel a little interested in that.
My knowledge is a bit hit or miss on the general threats. Life stuff doesn't make it easy and I really want to keep up but am struggling.
I suggest perusing pikalytics/munchstats/labmaus just to have a general idea. Anything you’re trying to build in particular?
@dull ibex let me in
It sounds impossible or weird but I'd like something with a little muscle and versatility.
Any cores or mon suggestions that can fill that role will be appreciated
I mean P2 Ursa Balance fills
Sounds interesting
I love your profile pic I know what vid that’s from
I haven't really looked up this one. How does it function?
Its a Balance team. So essentially just having a general gameplan + leaning on your good switch in/bulk to reposition to a point you can offensively break the board
Balance mode/TR mode
Okay then. I'll give it a try and look into it. Thanks a ton.
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damn g3 of gc lost to tera ghost bloodmoon which i called
oh shit
tera ghost bloodmoon man
should have called it and i didnt
av bloodmoon
tera ghost av bloodmoon
This guy had a max speed choice scarf spore amoongus is that a thing now?😂
?
?
thats lame
no thats bs.
Gholdengo @ Life Orb
Ability: Good as Gold
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 244 HP / 4 Def / 4 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Protect
- Nasty Plot
- Make It Rain
- Shadow Ball
Gholdengo @ Life Orb
Ability: Good as Gold
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Protect
- Nasty Plot
- Make It Rain
- Shadow Ball
pick a spread
this one
ngl I like this one because it it saves me time lmao
fair
nvm the other one does lmao
AV BM is based
it is, losing to it sucks
oh that sini has life dew,
it didn't even matter mir just does that much to tera fire ape lol
so far lost to a couple tw teams and a couple psyspam teams, that i just kinda played poorly into
7-4 rn tho
true
dont lose
LOL
INCIN LIVECD ON 9
now i have to get through 3 more turns of tr
still lost, damn
to many turns of tr
psyspam is not a good mu
2 more than im done
What is your Incin Bulk-
244 hp 252+ spD
oh thats why
+1 252 SpA Armarouge Meteor Beam vs. 244 HP / 252+ SpD Incineroar: 154-182 (76.6 - 90.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO i just live that
damn-
theres the sneasler sleep
kek
lol
alright, im going to win my last match
i almost lost to sneasler getting a sleep and a poison that both mattered lol
+1 252+ SpA Armarouge Meteor Beam vs. 244 HP / 252+ SpD Incineroar: 170-200 (84.5 - 99.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
100% chance of living by the way
Ignore that I’m blind and didn’t see you calced that
welp
i got fried lol
lost dengo t1 to tera grass basc
thats so lame man
i lost so many games to t1 tera's
9-6 is good
im scouting more, cuz that was fucking lame
3 games lost to a tera that screwed over my gameplan t1
incin is goated
Yeah I tend to play it more safe on ladder
Enough times have punished me to behave that way
Dengo hate fr lol
I could have played better
The game incin lived the meteor beam I Tera’d dengo for, literally no reason
Well, I was anticipating armor cannon
So I Tera’d to avoid that
Then I finished off what was left
And then Hatt+torkoal just swept me endgame
I’m trying my best, team feels fine it was generally mostly me miss playing
And Primarina is just not that great here, I need some kind of speed control
And psyspam mu is kinda not good
Mostly due to torkoal
Something to consider especially with people who don’t know when to pull the trigger on Tera is to gauge whether or not losing that Pokemon is significant or not
I feel like sometimes people just tera for the sake of covering but it puts them in a not so great spot down the line
I wonder if my team is too reliant on ursaluna offensively
So i tried making psyspam team for reg H should i give armarouge power herb ?
It’s at least nice into Incin but not a requirement
hello everyone
bye
NOOOOOO-
ig thats fair
weegeecee
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Oh well with life orb reserved too hatterene prolly for the best
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hit tera blast flying because it enabled earthquake and I thought okay maybe he sends in hecidueye
dude
ooc
if ur trying to deny TR wouldnt you want to Gamba + MIR
and if either one sets TR then Ursaluna comes in for free anyways
Ig that's fair
I was trying to set my own for some reason I didn't expect a tr lead
I could have pivoted better turn 1 or 2
Going home from work mildly annoyed about to play GC surely this can’t go wrong
Hey I am 3-8 so far, you cannot do worse lmao
thank god i did not participate
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At least I could start off this morning with a win
Although it was a little closer still
Wtf be happening bruh
good luck man
I just fought banded Lapras
Lol
Wtf
ok ig
Uhm whats my record
Where do I check
I didn’t keep track
what the fuck
Anw finished 1600s today
idk
what Moves btw
Im probably like 11-4 or 12-3
Bruh lol
Water/Ice
Water Absorb, Shell Armor, Hydration (Hidden)
130/85/80/85/95/60
535
Oh I've been doing a bingo board btw lol
Lol
Y'know what's worse
The Zoroark disguised itself as a Kingambit in front of my Sneasler
smart
#BullyMonke 
The GC is bullying me already
cts madness
Are you feeling any better?
bo1s are so fun
As I said last night, I literally just don't care anymore
Global Challenge CTS b01 is just painful
I'm 0-0 in the gc
50% wr
4-9 cuz of a misclick, fuck
damn
Why are we here, just to suffer
Should I join the suffering tonight or stick to showdown ladder? I think Bo3 would be better practice for locals on Sunday
What even the odds of missing 2 draco meteor in a row because man i think i'm done with grand challenge for today
I think so.
Dont do that to yourself
Practice Bo3's for your local
an gl
lol
gm tofu
You were probably 11-4 right?
I basically did opposite of that
4-11
I'm basically playing my games for the hell of it for rest of this GC run, I don't even think I can go positive
Yeah I'm not going positive
I'd have to go 19-11 over next two days
I couldn't even go middle ground day 2
If I went like 8-7 day 2, I'd have to go 11-4 Day 3
I don't even know if I can post my GC team as a rental rn which I was going to do
Just hell I can tell now, literally reason why I've lost most of my games is cuz there's just one turn
One turn where I'm literally just like "yeah that's game"
Which sounds bad cuz it's like "oh you're giving up"
But no it's true lmao
whats bulkier, Indeedee or Farigiraf?
Post it for the work you’ve put in
Faith in a team is stronger than a result since there can be other limiting factors
Yeah fuck it
I might make some adjustments from the GC version
I think Unburden kinda failed me lately
Like Sneasler just too frail to take advantage of Seed, cuz like
You boost one stat, and then you're still just weak to another, meaning you basically have to kill the threat at all times and Stellar Throat Chop just does not KO Gholdengo at all lmao
Or I might just keep it and try like Steel tera, Steel Tera was good even on Sash Poison Touch so
Think imma do that
Tera Stellar fire punch instead 😉 lol
Either way, Stellar Tera is well just like I thought it was before
It is absolutely dogshit 
Terapagos is essentially like the one good user of Stellar tera
Chein Pao is debatable but I even think Ghost just better
Anyways
@mighty stump any weird mons you think I can fuck with for next GC 
shell smash Torterra 😉 🤣
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Also no lie, I think sometimes I deadass just do better when I throw shit together
instinctual instead of an overthinker
I don't even tend to like overthink much now, only like when I'm looking at a 6th
And usually at that point, I already have a 6th but I'm looking for one that can do better
All I think about in builder now is like
- What can help the goal if there is one, like setting up and sweeping with something
- What can I add to help with a potential bad MU
But even with those things I don't spend too long doing so
Mainly cuz like
I would probably fall victim to sitting in builder for too long, but I essentially do most of builder time in my mind when I'm not on Showdown
Which isn't really too hard, it's just about like having a good amount of knowledge to be able to do so in a thorough manner
Whatevee you think is fun
trust in your first instincts and focus on just getting proof of concept rather than perfecting in the builder
dont sit in the builder for more than 20 min
you wont even know if your ideas good until you play like 10 matches
I usually just build for 5 min battle 10 matches repeat
Oh yeah that's what I do now
I mainly just do all the "sitting" in my head when I'm not on Showdown, which ain't even much now tbh
Usually if I'm sitting in the builder nowadays, it's cuz a concept just completely fails and I'm like "well wtf do I do now"
Really nowadays the one place I sit the most at is the fucking calculator, I can make a spread but like the hard part is tryna figure out "ok what do I wanna make my spreads for"
just play
Well it's like
After I do play
I'm then just like "ok maybe I wanna do x"
Don't usually need to make spreads before playing anyways cuz I just copy old spreads at first lol
Another day, another battle won thanks to Sneasler's Dire Claw and Mandibuzz being too stubborn to die 
(The P2 was +1 SpAtk, by the way)
Anyways bingo board after 15 games
I like how the 75 points slot is essentially not available to me cuz I'm basically the guy that slot is talking about rn
How’d you do last night
I am 4-11 rn, idec about the run tbh
Well I did going into it
I wanted to do good but then well that goal was shattered quickly and then I honestly feel like just the goal of ending with a positive record is in shambles too so just like
What now lmao
Idk if I’m gonna keep playing the gc tho lol
Hell tbh I might not even continue now
I'd basically have to play perfect in a run so far where it's felt like if I fuck up one turn I might as well just forfeit
I lost multiple games to psyspam and the random ghost/grass Tera’s that messed up my game plans
I've lost like 5 games to Arch Rain which I had pretty locked down heading into this
The Tera’s I could have scouted for but I didn’t
Also yeah my last game was a loss due to Ghost P2 lol
For me grass basculegion
Basically meaning I just whiffed my first turn completely
They didn't even bring Ursaluna, the P2 was just too damn tanky even with Eviolite gone
damn
i had tera ghost av bloodmoon 1 game
that rolled me, and then tera grass basc that ignored my rage powder t1
i also think i want hydreigon lol
gives me tw, a mon to click eq next to, and something for psyspam
How’s everyone’s gc going
I didn't sign up, I was still learning to pilot my team and I just didn't feel confident enough to do the GC with it yet 😅
Finally bred my shiny and he’s conveniently 6IV, wasnt needing the speed or attack stat but oh well.😂
idk why this goes in comp ngl
I can’t wait to see the next “Mr beast is over”
In three months
When he has 20 mil more subscribers
How you gonna get mad when we always go off topic lmao
I'm totally not getting shit on bro 
It’s going amazing for them they’re having such a fun ass time
Just yesterday they were talking about how hopeful and cheery they were after playing all 15 of their games
And how proud they were of themselves
Yeah absolutely
And how I can't wait to play my next 15 and how I totally am not suffering whatsoever, who would even suggest such a thing amirite
I'm totally killing it rn
(I am eating shit, someone plz help)
Me getting ready to do my 15 games tonight after work
Just know the cheese can be real brother
It's really like
Tbh I think this is the worst regulation to have a GC for
has anyone playing the gc here gone against an insane cts team
What’s the cheesiest thing you’ve seen so far
It's just regular CTS stuff or maybe some other weird stuff
Actually weirdest shit I saw was IDBP Sandstorm Skarmory
But like it just sucks that this is something that is actually worth CP
Feel bad for Japan bro
This Pokemon's non-damaging moves have their priority increased by 1. Opposing Dark-type Pokemon are immune to these moves, and any move called by these moves, if the resulting user of the move has this Ability.
I went into this competition thinking that I could win and then having it shut down by other players that are just better to be honest maybe I shouldn't have entered in the first place and yes I'm talking about the Pokemon Global challenge and now I just feel upset and reality sinking in
Bouta hunt for a family of 3 maushold
murderhold
It's not letting me edit my message
after like 5 games i just got bored
Yeah 45 games is a lot of games when you arnt on showdown
Oh I'm probably gonna finish
Either imma finish it or imma take the GC time to shiny hunt my last 2 picks or last team member for my team for the rental just for shits and giggles
well
Eh considering it's 15 a day, it's really like not as bad
i'd rather play on showdown
Gl sir monkey
i can make adjustments, which is what the team needs
https://pokepast.es/46574cfe774dc315 im also trying hydreigon again
speed control, "flying" mon for garchomp, snarl for psyspam
Considering I've sometimes just taken to cart for testing, really not as bad for me
Sometimes Showdown ladder just gets in points where it's just fucking awful
fair
Plus animations appease smooth ape brain
frfr
There is one flaw
isn't there always a flaw lol
But I still need to like
Shiny hunt Prim and Pult
boosted MIR chunks as well
+2 makes it effectively neutral
i can also replace, something if i need to
Sounds like cope
you're not helping
I can't even help myself rn
the 6th for this will likely be tricky
but its filling what i need atm, and i havent felt like incin has been like, terrible mu wise
i have to play chomp well which is fine
cuts to Reg G
What if you gave dragonite ice spinner
honestly the amoonguss could go if anything, incin feels more important to the core lol
https://pokepast.es/1393d366b5dc8a02 these 4 feel great
I have a personal opinion a about amoongus
Rage powder + spore feels like one of those things that’s amazing when it’s not respected
But then feels kinda bad if it is respected
yeaaaa
tera grass has ruined my gameplans a few times
i dont disagree that amoonguss hasn't felt great
honestly, yea amoonguss and spot 6 can be whatever i think the team needs but for sure one of the spots should be speed control
and ideally redirection on the other spot
Here’s why I think a tailwind setting flying type is good on the type of team you want
You can do your nasty plot stuff
Then you can use the tailwind later
Your gholdengos are slow as balls
So after the nasty plot is up it’s like your a bit more vulnerable right
Cus your redirectir is dead
Ehhh screw it
screw my what
It*
Mb sorry
Sounded rude
I gave up thinking cus balance teambuilding hurts my brain
lol
tw flying type is hard tbh
the main thing you'd do is talonflame but i have an incin so id rather not
idt murkrow is a good pokemon lol
could try vivillon again ig
over amoonguss
corv could be okay
disquake with killiwattrel is an option
idk
Murkrow seems useless because he’s small but then I remember he’s stronger than talonflame and as fast ass an annilape
i still dont like murkrow rn
I don’t like that he’s vulnerable to fake out
Actually I've decided.......
I'm gonna postpone posting rental, wanna try one more variation
@molten oasis I tweaked Paul Chua's Team and Regular Safety Goggles Arcanine works
Send
https://pokepast.es/e8fe8b02c2abddbe
Some i did not change from The OG but i tweaked Gambit's Tera,Incin and A9 Replaced by Prima and Arcanine,Rocky Helm Replaced Sitrus
dawg
a9 is the fun part of the team lol
im not interested in the team if a9 isnt there
of course.
but eh it works for me
fair enough
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Nvm I wanna go back to GC
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Lmao that’s a crazy team
Ngl if they didn't DC I probably would've got fucking cooked
And then almost losing cuz of a DOUBLE CONFUSION PROC ON MY RILLA
How to be Lucked
I thought they were bout to go ham with that incin
The only fun iv ever had with ninetales is the tera ice blizzard stuff
Same honestly, my brain immediately went to "ok what fuckin Special Fire moves does it have, does it have Flamethrower, I hope it don't have Flamethrower, it probably does have that"
gm
Hi tofu
Hey guys
Can anyone help me make my first actual pvp team?
Lime first actually good one
What format?
Hm, I'm not sure which do you recommend?
The newest one?
Doubles or Singles? In-game?
Hola Señor Tofu
I’m leaving
Which is
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