#competitive_discussion
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GG
I'm almost 100% certain that was unwinnable for you if you didn't get a sleep
Yeah I genuinely got lucky AF there, I've never hit those odds
Watch the 16% x2 again
tofu loses to monke is he washed?
WHAT IN THE FUCK
Result: 0.004096
Bro I'm gonna be so fucked on RNG later
o well
cooked by 0.004%
ONE
Bro I would've fucking died if it happened again
Damn that was close
3 sleeps
I called the Tink switch wrong
I knew it was coming, just messed up the slot it was going into
Tbf
If you had that switch
That could be worse for you since it put Incin in range
from Blitz
Fair
Yeah GG
time to bully someone with Miraidon in VC kek
Now watch as my luck goes down the fucking drain
LOL
Oh it's sick
I didn't know what Compound Eyes does 
Also ngl has Pult been working out for you cause the rest of the team seems alright
Dunno how i feel about it
Gonna be a lot of Aw Dang Its coming from Dire Claw now boys
When Outrage didnt KO a neutral I was like "wow this mon sucks"
Me AF
Yeah no Pult is aight
I think Jolly Pult might be a little better even though you miss out on some damage due to just well
Being faster
Um lemme
What were you at before
Same man-
Very good FUA+Sustain-
87% to what percent?
Just gimme the damage roll
Ah
Making sure, you just max HP or any more defense?
Oh 4 EVs
yea
44 Atk Incineroar Flare Blitz vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Kingambit: 138-164 (78.4 - 93.1%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO
Roll
And then max Adamant right?
You didn't have a Defiant boost right?
no
252+ Atk Kingambit Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 108+ Def Incineroar: 34-41 (16.8 - 20.2%) -- possible 7HKO after Sitrus Berry recovery
Yeah my Incin spread is a little weird but still surprised it does that much
lol
Dragonite deleted your Incin so fast
This stupid spider is so funny
New blog post time
Lmao
I legit like calced only for like
Gallade Psycho Cut 3HKO after Ghost tera
Then Tera Flying Blast Dnite came back and now I'm like damn
Probably didn't get deleted without Screech drop
I am almost confident that Kingambit + Galvantula lead into Incin will KO Incin through resist
Anyways on Pult, it's fine, Dragon Tera Dragon Darts was funny, I never clicked Outrage cuz I hate the move, my dumbass always forgets how it works
So that + Geezing coming back just put me back on Tera Steel Blast
Makes sense
Basically funny thing Brady said
Basically if you CC and Force into a slot (have to Protect Sneasler T1 of course) then the slot just goes bye bye lmao
Then I cry
But also just U Turn + Moonblast into Indeedee just kills always and makes Psyspam a fuck ton easier
lol
Though I think like
Salamence thing thru Justin Tang was also neat
Then I also fought Mika with fucking Ceruledge and I was like damn this thing is gas
I did face a h zoruark with monkeys team
I kept saying “why the fuck is tatsugiri hyper voicing”
I didn’t realize til my own hyper voice sent it to sash
The x5 Rilla resist is so funny to me
Also Tofu
I'm surprised you actually had that one convo in here earlier lol
Yeah
Surprising
Not that often you get to see it that much in depth and it see understanding lmao
You mean from the other party?
Yeah
Usually more often of "oh hey you say this bad, now me angy"
Yeah lmao
We got the full spectrum today
Lol
Y'know actually me angy
Geezing hasn't hit cart ladder for me yet lol
Is that a website or did you do it yourself?
Marriland Teambuilder
uhh i didn't know that existed, thanks
Surprising it ain't on cart ladder even without that team
I figured someone would take it on there or at least try to like
Revise it
It's ok my plan is very simple
Lol
It's called No Russian
How’d the matches go @bold geode
Lmao
Weegeecee
Who else we got
idk just join in cuz me bored
Maybe after I do something
Ok
truly a Sneasler moment
ill join
Gotcha I'll be on shortly
I'm on
I'm on
Why does brave bird from corv do 80% to my ninetales
Lemme join the VC and stay here I'm gonna eat rn
I agreed to play at a local tomorrow but I have no idea or concept of the current meta, can someone give me a crash course on it?
Maybe I shouldn't have agreed to it, learning an entire meta and trying to build a acceptable team within a couple of hours is stupid-
lol
I have massive skill issue when I play a team that I didn't put my mind to.
I could just take one to see what's going on though- Thanks
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between redstonejesus and sfghfdsfgg! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2024 Reg H; Date: Sep 18, 2024
My start of my shift today is so easy lol
Which means weegeecee time
Adamant life orb garchomp is kinda awesome
https://pokepast.es/bba19ead00797bb8 I wanna add a flying type here, what are my options?
@dull ibex can you kick me out VC?
It kicked me out and I need you to do so
You locked it bruh
There’s no way you just came back from that
its hilarious
The VC is locked
new
Would Psychic Noise or Calm Mind fit best on Florges? Already has Wish/Protect/Moonblast
I wish it was a grass type
I'm using it as more of a support I'd think, a wish passer
Psychic Noise makes sense to prevent heals but also Calm Mind for longevity
If you can fit it
Its got Flower Veil atm so I could run a grass type alongside it
What grass type
Thats the problem 🤣
Guys?
Talonflame mayhaps?
maybe
Fire coverage too and gale wings for flying prio
We’ve been here so many times
Look I played with what Emma sent me today and I was like “yo LORB eq kinda crazy”
So uh, now I’m back to square 3 lol
But also teams change a lot
(And admittedly I think clam chomp is kinda mid)
Talon flame seems like the perfect fit
alr
And then the last one is very open
https://pokepast.es/d819cb1a40f295c6 now what lol
hm
Well, the psyspam mu is uh, smth

.-.
yeahhhh-
i’ve been running av on that thing for a while
i stumbled upon a keen eye pelipper + power herb archaludon with choice specs symbiosis florges .-.
I'm done with Reg H
guys my breloom made a guy ragequit
actually he made a lot of guys ragequit
who knew that tailwind and spore could elicit those feelings from people
@mighty stump if you didnt fall asleep feel free to rejoin we heard some noises that sound like snoring
https://pokepast.es/6a97158cedf0b1e6
I cannot think of a sixth slot aside from palafin but I want more dimensions to the team other than unga bunga me hit hard
is that a no Archaludon rain team
HAHAHA
What's the quickest way to get rid of Tyranitar
A punch to the face
Bullet punch?
Body press Archaludon lol
You just have to hit it really hard
Anyone using P2 Ursa stuff
Hey any of u got an milotic to Trade of gladly trade 2 shinys
This is not the place to ask for trades, We have trade channels
Sorryyyy
All good, just a heads up
Just joinen and i Didnt quiet know and the ppl there Seem Not to be online sorry for the intrudion
Imo no sucker punch
For the hamu
Cuz it’s gonna hit like a wet noodle
It’s attack stat is not great lol
Sure that’s cool
you have tailwind anyways
Mhmm
What item should I even use in place of scarf
are you playing scarf Archaludon
Yeah because it's the first thing that came to mind lol
Fair, what should I give samurott instead then?
Mystic water should work fine but honestly i wouldn't play Samurott in the first place
What could I use instead? I die immediately to tr, I can't think of anything worth while.
Scope lens could be cool
50% chance to crit on night slash and aqua cutter
🐇
i hate my Salamence
I failed a crucial draco meteor that would have killed Amoonguss and then gambit kills Dragonite with kowtow and Gambit cleans up the Garchomp and P2 that was in the back

https://pokepast.es/a5ec778b3f2610b2
Do you guys have any recommendations or anything? This is my last check before I just start calcing.
Triple pseudo legendary team kek https://pokepast.es/6a88fb542cd95938
El gamba
Water/Dark
Torrent, Sharpness (Hidden)
90/108/80/100/65/85
528
Samurott
I’m going av so probably not going max speed
It naturally outspeeds gholdengo
I’m also going adamant
Not that it needs to tho
Steel/Ghost
Good as Gold
87/60/95/133/91/84
550
By 1 point and we’re av why go max speed
To be speedy of course 
I would like to test my team in a double battle, anyone free? I’ll give a shiny riolu for time
You mean in game?
Sick
Yeah
There’s is like
Nothing noteworthy to outspeed I think
Without going jolly at least
Incin ig
Jolly max speed incin
Then I can't unfortunately, I still haven't built my team.
156 evs
Thanks for asking!
tritthaler456 has given 1 Gen Rep to monarchmothman
252+ Atk Miracle Seed Rillaboom Grassy Glide vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Samurott-Hisui in Grassy Terrain: 188-224 (113.9 - 135.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO dawg this bulk is ass lol
I highly doubt I'll be done with the team right until the local starts tomorrow lmfao.
252+ SpA Choice Specs Typhlosion-Hisui Eruption (150 BP) vs. 76 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Samurott-Hisui in Sun: 105-124 (60 - 70.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO ow
At a minimum max speed ursaluna
Eruption typhlosion = Good?
Personally I always like to outspeed peliper
That’s just me
Especially with no prio moves
Cus just cus it has an av doesn’t mean it can’t be fast
make sure you also create teamsheets for the local
assuming it’s an official one
@next stump im bringing vivi to local this weekend
its a mash of paul chua & zee team
and its honestly worked better than i initially thought
vivi chomp a9 is a nice core ngl
Does coaching go through your protect?
yes
Gamer
Bug/Flying
Shield Dust, Compound Eyes, Friend Guard (Hidden)
80/52/50/90/50/89
411
Vivillon-Fancy, Vivillon-Pokeball
Can anyone give any advice for this sunflora sun team which I made to take in the beginning of the ladder for fun last time I asked for help earlier today I was just told to use a rental team and that my team was awful
I don’t like your sunflora set
Give it weather ball and protect instead of sunny day and trailblaze
And earth power over one of your grass moves
Or encore
encore is good too
Idk where trailblaze came from i must of miss clicked ty
wharleybanana has given 1 Gen Rep to mayahoppins
Just updated it thank you plus I didn't even know sunflora can learn earth power
This is gonna help alot thank you
Samurott-Hisui @ Assault Vest
Ability: Sharpness
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 148 HP / 156 Atk / 44 Def / 76 SpD / 84 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Aqua Cutter
- Night Slash
- Sacred Sword
- Snarl

Does Hamurott learn a pivot move?
Aerial Ace, Aqua Cutter, Aqua Jet, Aqua Tail, Assurance, Avalanche, Body Slam, Brick Break, Bulldoze, Ceaseless Edge, Covet, Cut, Dig, Dive, Drill Run, Facade, False Swipe, Fling, Flip Turn, Frustration, Fury Cutter, Giga Impact, Iron Tail, Knock Off, Lash Out, Liquidation, Megahorn, Night Slash, Razor Shell, Retaliate, Return, Revenge, Rock Smash, Sacred Sword, Secret Power, Slash, Smart Strike, Sucker Punch, Tackle, Take Down, Thief, Throat Chop, Upper Hand, Waterfall, X-Scissor
Air Slash, Blizzard, Brine, Chilling Water, Dark Pulse, Grass Knot, Hidden Power, Hydro Cannon, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Round, Scald, Snarl, Snore, Surf, Swift, Tera Blast, Trump Card, Vacuum Wave, Water Gun, Water Pledge, Water Pulse, Whirlpool
Attract, Confide, Copycat, Detect, Double Team, Encore, Endure, Focus Energy, Hail, Helping Hand, Protect, Rain Dance, Rest, Scary Face, Screech, Sleep Talk, Snowscape, Soak, Substitute, Swagger, Swords Dance, Tail Whip, Taunt, Toxic, Water Sport, Work Up
A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Samurott-Hisui.
Oh it learns Flip Turn
Idk why but I thought sammurott could learn u turn
How do that
Without a printer
you can sometimes email the organizer a teamsheet as a PDF
otherwise without a printer you’ll need to hope the store has blank copies when you get there, but arrive early so you have time
Sure but like
I want sacred sword for coversge
And snarl for psyspam
I decided to take sunflora to a couple matches of showdown to scout for any weaknesses and so far sunflora is one shoting everthing
Gib team
look pm
https://pokepast.es/09106c513777c5a6 thoughts?
Stomping trantrum and eq on chomp?
I like having a ground move if grassy terrain is around

We posted the News Release "Filing Lawsuit for Infringement of Patent Rights against Pocketpair, Inc."
https://t.co/76ttENZXtv
This is so funny
@molten oasis testing rn?
There any dozo teams so far doing well?
Feel like haze and clear smog being on basically every team kills it lol
Uh yea, cuz people don’t wanna fight dozo lol
Oof gg
It's going to be a tough battle for Pocketpair
Japan is very pro copyright protection
https://pokepast.es/af64a6fdec0965b5 does this team look like hyper offense or balance
It's not a copyright battle
It's a lawsuit over patent infringement
Oh ye
Patent infringement but still same outlook
Japan doesn't like any >illegal use of people's properties in general
I'm assuming they're going to bring up the funny green cinderace, luxray and Cobalion clone
:/
Microsoft could help since they're joint developing Palworld with Pocketpair
But it's going to be a tough battle regardless since it's in japanese court where the plaintiff almost always wins
I love misclicks
???
Wut lmao
Tf lol
Balance
I don't got the pokepaste link since i'm in bed but i got a ss of the paste
Metagross can tank a +6 bodypress from an archaludon
Offense
Time to redo the team
Thanks talonfoame for making my shit look like hyper offense when I just wanted a Mon to click earthquake with
Fun fact: so many people rq over special mence
I mean it's good wcyd
Fr
May i suggest palafin or basculeigon over samurott, samurott just doesnt cut it
i dont have a psyspam mu without it and i havent tried it and i think on paper its okay
well the psyspam mu is easier with it
palafin sucks lol
isnt good into torkoal and i dont want 4 fire weaknesses
nah i wouldnt say sucks, its just not as strong as ppl thought . the 1 turn switch is a lot more of a momentum sucker now then it was prior
on this team, i dont think its correct
ik ik
just kinda throwing it out there, and im looking at other flying types to play with
cuz apparently talonflame makes this team HO
i got the team
So they're finally going along with that?
jus need to do the evs and teras/moves
Apparently yeah
fair enough
u doin the gc?
they have more then enough grounds to
Sí Señor
prolly jus did their due diligence
I just love the bulldoze into weakness policy iron head into psyspam
wats the team
Yeah it was just pulling the trigger tbh
Although tbf, Palworld basically fucking died off anyways so did they really need to
Sneasler Pult shit
cool
https://pokepast.es/56403935a5387f68 if i drop talon is there something that looks good here, that doesn’t make the team hyper offense
Cuz that’s not my goal I wanted balance
May just have to spam protect for garchomp to click eq lol
I mean did you try it first
Who cares how it looks
...
its like, i feed into it being HO and just make dengo specs or just, replace the talonflame but ill play it and see ig
https://x.com/MoxieBoosted/status/1836575559490638051?t=pcoFM4FdccIOlVMXVew3rw&s=19
@rustic mountain @dull ibex literally this
NOOOO! The 200 people still playing Palworld will be devastated!!!!
if it feels like HO im just gonna play some other team
Arighty
Like they suing the fuckin thing AFTER it basically went to irrelevancy
try harc idk
Palworld actually has like 25k players still
Like I honestly forgot Palworld existed
kilowattrel with discharge tailwind air slash protect
Its not irrelevant yet
It's still popular?
Works rly well with ur garchom
I haven't seen
A fuckin thing about Palworld like at all for a while now
its weird cuz like jus use paul chuas team haha idk y u gta try and reinvent the wheel wen ur basically jus building something thats relatively similar. feel uve done that a few times this format
...
Yes because mainstream only. Covers new stuff
wanted to play dengo a9, guess not
I'm gonna reinvent the meta, Infernape time 
lets get it
Can't wait to beat it
infernape will shine someday
then try pauls team with dengo over dnite or gambit
Go ahead
nah
It wouldn't be hard to counter it at worst game two
Me whipping out Gastrodon again like
idt replacing gambit on that team is a good idea, or dnite
Go ahead
i dont wanna try its not gonna feel better than the thing that took second
I don't play that team anymore lmao
No u
Yeah I did do it
Did do what
Dw bout it
Mods ban him
Tera normal normal gem belly drum explosion snorlax helping hand boost
fair enough but i think thats wat im trynna get it. ur prolly gna wind up w/ something worse cause of the mon selection being so similar and if ur not willing to slot out different mons on it, then how will u know if a better version even exists
Mods show me his battle bucket
u see how convoluted ur process is haha
The way my brain is convoluted to see the constitution in the institution in the misconstrusion and bars bitch, calm down Dr Seuss
:/
Yeah bitch
Gorilla Gorilla Gorilla
i cant argue with that ig
im only trynna help its just hard the way u constrict ur options in a sense
i dont really like copying teams that much, it feels better to get something working without copying another persons teams
i know its completely fine
i love copying teams give me that sauce 🫴
its generally just personal preference, i like making my own teams, i'll take ideas like the sash a9
Is that Harry Potter
yea but u gta be able to recognize wen ur going down a route thats basically the same as someone elses and gauge how to navigate from there. otherwise u jus wind up w/ sub par versions especially if u arent willing to mess around with the core itself to even see if improvements can be made. if u wind up changing enough it almost becomes ur team anyway. look at pat conners, he took 5/6 of a team and replaced 1 mon and ppl started calling it the patcon6
this image just too funny
Yes
Run a special attacking supreme overlord choice specs kingambit
Nobody will see it coming
For what 😭
Yes it's Radcliffe
and even less players are boyt lvl where they come up with the craziest stuff that really only seems to work for them as effectively. but u need to reach a certain point of skill and understanding to actually do that
Aha
not even to discourage ppl but i think a lot of players try and teambuild before they really should
I agree
i wouldve improved a lot faster if i figured that out sooner wen i started
I think a lot of new players would be better off stealing a team to learn the game
Rather than going through the whole process of “my favorite Pokémon, oh I got destroyed, I’m miserable”
yea i remember thinking i was gna break the meta coming in and wen u really understand things better u realize jus how hard that is to do
im like why is nobody using beeheeyem its got great sp atk stat and its like ok and? haha like i got mball w/ it but i was barely hovering 50% wr. its like sure i made it work in 1 sense but if im actually trynna get better and win consistently is this how i wanna do it? nd my answer was no. took me a bit longer to get there tho lol
i get what everyones saying
yeh
definitely feel discouraged cuz i now feel like im a way lower skill level
Oh I wasn’t really talking about you specifically just adding on to the statement
I still don't create my own teams i mostly use other teams and change some things that i think could work for my style
also i feel so bad at teambuilding at this reg lol
it was still due to me being stupid about building teams
is like in reg G and F i actually built decent teams and now i can't create anything
so it feels kinda directed towards me, not that it was intended to be
i jus think itd do u some good to focus for a bit on jus playing well and using good mons and teams. i feel the overfixation on the teambuilding aspect is hindering ur ability to actually improve at this moment in time. its not to say u cant get there im not saying to abandon wanting to teambuild completely.
and i was there before like i was showcasing my own experience to say like i get it in a way where ur coming from. it wasnt to call u out for being low skill lvl or anything like that cause i dont think thats necessarily the case but its just u have to be just that good to be a great teambuilder.
these are obviously also suggestions u go about it how u want
...ig
WHAT YOU BRINGING GASTEO FOR
ANSWER for my own dumb curiosity thanks!!
it probably help, also feels like such a major step back
i dont think it would be
i think itd actually be a step forward even if it feels ur taking a step back
once u understand better why teams are good, whats common etc u are more informed in ur teambuilding decisions. and ur skill expression is able to take more form because u actually see things in a way u didnt before
cause playing vs stuff w/ subpar teams does not give u the best representation of what u really need to be doing. u jus tunnel vision on how to improve wat ur workin on at the moment w/ little direction on how u achieve that which is what i feel has been the case for a bit now with u
hence the suggestions
the hamurott doesn't even feel that bad lol, thats fair
Ayo!

I stole a really cool ceruledge team that did really well a few days ago and I was like “wow this feels so good this is like a whole different world of options”
Um cuz it fucked up Red
Ain't that right @dull ibex 
k, i
And the funny thing is it had 4 ground weaknesses which just like broke everything that I thought was right
u have solid gut instincts on some things like zacian top cut worlds. a9 got 2nd at baltimore but ur understanding and skill have to catch up to that first for u to be able to put the pieces together effectively
he yawn spammed me once and it was annoying
its okay ive since taken a few sets
wasn't expecting that comment lol, but i think thats fair
that'll take a while but its for the sake of improvement
ask monke about my dire claw
exactly, and jus enjoy the ride. it could be sooner then u think
no, cuz i already know monke's luck with opposing dire claw luck is ass
2 sleeps 🙂
lmfao
i'll put this team i have on hold ig, which, the hamurott was working lol
it won me a few games
like i said drago those are suggestions if u wanna keep playing the team go for it 
went 6-1 which is solid, but still i should put it asside and focus on good stuffs, no i think you're right
idk how to make the things i keep calling out being good anti meta work well
the zacian stuff i had was also more after zacian started popping up in tournaments, same with a9
Ask Monke about his dad, he's gone
maybe zacian but i thought u were on a9 pretty early maybe i misremembered
so many messed up jokes
yea thats a hard call to make but it wound up being like almost perfect haha
i had encore which i thought was a strong tool on it
You think I care 
and freeze dry was good into peli, weather control too
yea jus general good coverage and disruption
no but not making them here
Ugh some of my emotes are gone now
Imma dip for a bit, lil irritated about something rn
it seems too exploitable and ud much rather click one of those other moves to be more pro active
in restricted a9 just kinda sucks but maybe sash a9 could work then (cope)
My friend been playing sash
It feels really good since it explodes to everything
if u wanna use a9 and are gna use good stuffs rn anyway why not try pauls team?
i'll play around with dengo goodstuffs i think, just avoid the niche stuff for now
least u can play it while its good in that case
cause that mons gna be mid in reg g 2.0
im probably gonna look into p2 ursa
that team seems very strong
always was lmfao
p2 ursa has been running incin amoonguss dengo a lot, which is, roughly what im after
or just go incin amoonguss dengo and go from there 
yea dengo is on like every p2 ursa variant rn
one of the highest represented mons in top cut
dengo is kinda the only reason im enjoying the format, and a9
dengos fun i havent played it like all month tho lol
i still think a9 dengo can work, maybe dengo over gambit can work on pauls team but eh
gambit does a good job on that team too
yea
Gold is crazy
gna help vs those psy spam teams and offsetting intimidates for chomp and dnite
My favorite way to play dengo is playing him like a dumbass
which means
ARMA psyspam, is smth else
Explode
so tera steel MIR specs
i think both are very good and the reason why dengo is arguably the best mon in the format
that they do
chomp/a9 protect it
i think the team seems to operate on not a set up mode tho, but seems balancey
def is a more balance based team
i'll try dengo, i think arma psyspam should be okay theres an incin
as you said could be a better variant, team lacks special attackers
the multiscale dnite still throws me off
what would you wanna outspeed with the dnite? or do you just go max hp max attack
dnite seemed like a big part of pauls gameplan for his stream games
i think it was, tera flying tera blast chunks
flying coverage is jus few and far between yea
if ur multiscale id try going more bulk tbh
not sure on speed if u need certain benchmarks u need to hit u can jus adjust as u go
I’m gonna be honest dragonite is so annoying like it’s so good at the one thing it does
id assume ud want a little bit of speed but not quite sure wat ud want to outspeed, maybe like hit 128-130 range to outspeed a lot of middling speed stuff
cool lol
thats a lot of investment, but yea
(dnite starts at 100 speed)
Dragonite @ Lum Berry
Ability: Multiscale
Level: 50
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 124 HP / 156 Atk / 228 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Tera Blast
- Extreme Speed
- Low Kick
- Protect

That works
think i'll train this for gc ingame and play it there
I didn’t even know dnite learned low kick lol
Dnite has a fat movepool
Pretty rad
Anyway turtle card box time
any hits
I’ll send if I get any hits
First pack had a ace spec lmao
Nothing crazy, the stellar cards are pretty tho
I opened a booster box for scarlet and violet a few weeks ago and got a few great pulls tho
So, my luck probably went there
This came with the box
I’m buying a booster box when I have money, there’s a Hydrapple secret art I need it
The target is forced to switch out and be replaced with a random unfainted ally. Fails if the target is the last unfainted Pokemon in its party, or if the target used Ingrain previously or has the Suction Cups Ability.
Normal
Status
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-6
Bypasses Protect-like moves.
Copied by Mirror Move.
Bypasses substitute.
Does not make contact.
Affected by Magic Coat and Magic Bounce.
Does not affect Soundproof.
Don't work on Hat
Kk
just buy the card…
tofu did you pass out
Yep
I don’t even remember passing out
ig thats fair
Hey everyone I was hoping to find someone with the know how and patience too teach a noob the ins and outs of pvp? If anyone is interested in helping me I will be very appreciative 🙂
Beginner resources are available in the pins.
Are you interested in doubles or singles?
In all honesty I'm more interested in singles but I see that the preferred battle mode is doubles so I'm leaning towards learning that the most. I'm sort of looking for a coach too assist me. I know how to breed and ev train I just don't exactly know where to start with pvp because it's so complex and there are so many strategies and different moves. It's quite overwhelming
Lucky for you, you can streamline the initial learning by simply using an established team.
After playing doubles I can never go back to singles
after playing doubles i refuse to play singles
This means you can wholly focus on just learning what the game is like, and how things work
So yeah, I do recommend the pinned resources
Then if you have any questions, you can always ask here.
I'll have a look 🙂 thankyou. I do have one question while you are here.
Fire away.
I was playing pvp before and I have a level 100 sceptile that has a nature that boosts its speed and I ev trained it to the max but was going 2nd too a tatsugiri or whatever it's called. How is that possible?
It's either something to do with your IVs, and/or that Tatsugiri probably was holding Choice Scarf
Choice Scarf?
Which is an item that boosts Spe of the holder by 1.5x
before the battle started i didnt see my opponents pokemon holding any items. is that hidden from me so players dont know opponents strats?
Yeah
You cannot know what the opponent's items are in Ranked queue
i was playing casual?
Doesn't matter
Same thing.
In my head my brain told me your pfp was the Microsoft XP background
It only happens sometimes but then I realize there’s two people there
and a tree
And it’s a drawing
my sceptile is as follows
timid nature i split evs for sp attack and hp but maxed its speed. stats are hp 312 attack 185 defense 166 speed 372 sp def 206 and sp attack is 279
I thought those stats were crazy for a second then remembered level 100
is what i did bad
It's more than a drawing 😔
It's only the ending to the greatest game of all time
Ranked is played at level 50. Plus, the base stats come into play. It's more important to talk about the EVs invested rather than the final stat number
Investments are done with purpose.
EV investing isn't going to make or break your team if done generally correct, but there are right/wrong ways
Try planning your stats on the website showdown
For example: you need to understand what role your Pokemon is going to be performing to better inform what stats you'll be investing in
i went 126 hp 126 sp attack and 252 in speed
This sort of thing is also gone through in VGC guide
So I recommend reading the pins first
https://www.vgcguide.com/eving-1-how-to-make-simple-ev-spreads start here for EVs specifically.
thankyou i will read through it now
sparasic. has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu
is it ok if i dm you after for further assistance. if not its ok.
I find it funny how complicated ev spreads look until you realize they usually just hit a jump point and used a calculator for the defensive parts
You can ping me here
thanks
DM is fine but it might get buried/not reply
are screenshots allowed to be posted here?
Yes.
playing weegeecee is fun
weegeecee
vc?
sure ill be in my personal
for some reason i cant share my screenshot. not important though. does everyone use Pikalytics?
Damn how many notifications you got
I use Munchstats and porydex and labmaus
Pikalytics, Labmaus, Munchstats
https://pycosites.com/pkmn/stat.php is it better then this
alright ill research some more stuff and when i have some questions ill post here. thanks everyone
Is what better?
That’s an ev calculator
Nah, MunchStats da best truuust. (also thats just an EV calculator. MunchStats and Pikalytics shows usage Statistics for popular Pokemon. LabMaus shows tournament results and usage)
different tools for different things. look around and see what could be helpful to you
ill have a look 🙂
you can also ask if you have any questions
Do you know what EVs are?
I hate Sam witwicky
Yeah I know all about ivs and evs
I said earlier in the chat what stumps me in a way is how much strats and different moves there are
I'm hearing every pokemon needs a role on the team
And they need to work in sync with each other
MunchStats is a website that shows you how often a Pokemon is used on a team. It also shows you how often an item, move or ability is used on a Pokemon.
It also shows common EV spreads that a Pokemon has.
Pikalytic has this too. MunchStats also the EVs usage broken down into Categories and Tera data as well.
The data updates once a month
LabMaus can show you the top teams that are performing well in tournaments. Along with a link to the examples of the team's moves, items, abilities and Tera types that performed well using the selection of Pokemon
You can look for a specific Pokemon usage and trends for tournament usage
The Nerd of Now Damage Calculator lets you input your Pokemon's EVs and Nature and the opposing Pokemon EVs and nature to see how much damage a Pokemon would do.
You can add items, field effects and stat boosts to have an idea of how much damage you should expect your Pokemon to do
Any questions?
What's a Pokemon
idk, some kind of monster that can be kept in your pocket i think
Haha pocket monster
too long, should be shortened to something like pockster
tysm for all that. its what i was looking for. an in depth answer and assistance. if you have time one day we should have a battle so you can see if my pokemon are any good. i only have 4 battle ready pokemon im in the process of making more
sparasic. has given 1 Gen Rep to pizza.time
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between redstonejesus and ucnsjd! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2024 Reg H; Date: Sep 19, 2024
mm yes people in low ladder and their love for stall
👀
yep they are still smogonn pilled
What exactly is stall?
things like Poison, Salt Cure, Leech seed
slow chip damage with bulky mons to hang around
works better in a Solos format
also kills the Vibe of Doubles
I had a person keep using encore and leech seed. Problem what I'm a noob and I started with sword dance. Then I got stuck 😢
Was it reg C with the ridiculously bulky treasure of ruin, that was AWFUL to play. so unenjoyable
thats why Urshifu is good in terms of that
It beats Most Stalls
so thats why Reg D is good
in terms of beat stall
yeah, Wo-Chien, Leeech seed, ingrain, Leftovers, Grassy Terrain, Giga drain made me want to do violent things
Wo-Chien Does not do that?
at least only Lefties Leech Seed
usually they run Ruination/Foul Play,Protect and Pollen puff
oh yeah they wouldnt set up Terrain themselves.
but the combination of all of it is hell
Ruination is a must
you have to be VERY specfic for this to happen so would not recommend
oh yeah, its not that viable, especially now
Foul Play is fine in Reg G
its just attrocious if you get caught in it
I meant for people wanting to run stall
im more of a Jeremy Clarkson type of VGC player 🤣
this guy exists
Didn't in Reg C lol
not to mention Reg G stall does not fucking work when damage output is nuts
its a long gone format i wouldn't care about it
plus top players would not run Full stall
No i know, but someone asked what Stall is, and i was reminising of how painful stall reg C was
I have question is there any other mon that have fire / water typing that's not volcanion ?
Why do you need one
Just wondering because having water / fire as defensive mon seem's really neat
No i'm actually asking is volcanion the only fire / water mon or is there other mon that have that typing too
The problem with volcanion it's mythical which cannot be used on any reg untill when the games is at end of life span
Oh damn
I mean i do have volcanion from the swsh event but currently it on the box collecting dust
Is bottle capping mons what most people do or do they breed for iv ?
either works. I just bottle cap especially if I shiny hunt.
I have a few nice shinies that I bred. My favourite is my charmander. Haven't used him yet though
Could bottle cap and evolve him he's got 5 best ivs
is there much priority spam usage in reg H, feels like its dropped off the face of the earth
depends on your visual preferences, some people are purists and prefer to see "Perfect" than "hyper trained"
I love seeing all best
sorry yes, "best"
I love having the perfect pokemon stats wise even if i don't use the stat. I love seeing best
Can you tell im a bottle capper 🤣
😂😂
What's the chances of me breeding a shiny 6 iv pokemon
Closest I got was very good 😢
not impossible, but grindy.
need to use 6iv Shiny Ditto (from another regioun) holding a destiny knot, 6iv pokemon of choice with the correct nature holding an everstone
#shiny_hunters can probably help more
Thanks I'll check it out 😎😁
sparasic. has given 1 Gen Rep to oneofakindof
$32 card declining in price or $150 box for chance to get it
does hyper training mean raising a pokemon from bad stats to amazing stats or does that mean maxing the stats a pokemon with bad stats can ever achieve?
Ivs are random between 1-31 when the mon is generated, Hypertraining maxes these out at 31
But you see I can get more than just the Hydrapple from the box
Fair enough lol
you have to hit a combination of all the chases to make money back on it
or 1 sir terapagos
I lowkey wanna use a Sand Team with Lycanroc but need a bit of help building it
That’s fair, anyway
How long does it take for the ghimmighoul chests to come back
Nvm figured it out
With black glasses kingambit do I do Tera dark or a defensive Tera
Tera dark
Butt
?
Butt
Like a day I think
I am running into nothing but Dondozo teams oml
Chance to respawn per day iirc
Thank you vegan meat 🤝
maya
Heya
vivi chomp a9 is brokennnn
Wait what the hell iv never seen that type thing in my life can you send me what that’s a hidden treasure
In your name
i noticed one of my friends were also on vivi chomp so we smashed our teams together and its so good
idk ask @merry summit i jus asked for a bunny
That sucks
Oh yeah my friend was also playing vivi chimp too he loves it
That’s a cool combo of all 3
Of those guys
yaes
I played it a bit, garchomp is stupid lol
It does so much damage
And then fast sleep/ice coverage to keep it going is really nice as well
I know primarina is frail defensively but I didn’t think I would have to ev to not get two shot by a raw stomping tantrum with no life orb
Garchomp strong
I should go lock in my GC team if I can even register
oh is that this weekend?
I can’t wait for bo1 cheese lol
Im probably about to get cheesed very hard with 0 dozo MU but o well
I still have to train up my team, and evolve my ghimmighoul
Is there anything you can do at all
i have the most fun dozo mu check
I have amoonguss
I am in no position on cart to play, whens registration deadline? might be a 5am grind to get a team ready 🤣
Amogus when Tera Blast Fly

😔
in 7:30 hours
at leat our GXE is sitting at 72% so that's something...
Ooooff
I’ve been climbing with chomp a9 dengo amoonguss, feels solid
Rn I just have incin and dnite, effectively replacing the gambit on Paul’s team
How’s games been going
I can’t play gc because iv never felt good after playing gc
doubt i even have the time
Sweeeet
Im working friday/saturday and last thing i wanna do is bust out 15 games of CTS
Lmfao
But its not bad
idk if I’m keeping the dnite tbh, I get its role on the team im just kinda not feeling it
Is it that team you showed the other day
Yea p much
Nice
Its neat and I don't have to think too hard
Cool mons too
So on a new alt and thought to just casually play it out
Probably will take it out to Bo3 down the line and refine it since now I have proof of concept
Nice
Taking tree’s advice rn, playing pre established teams/good stuffs rn to get a better understanding of the game
Sounds lame and sensible
Tofu
Wat
Yk I’ve been struggling to get shit working lol
I agree it’s lame but I want to improve
No lol
The same mantra I preach to new players like I'm reciting a bible ☠️
I'm excited about a new toothbrush

What has my life come to
The little things in life are exciting I suppose
Tofu is good at game
The 6
D: it’s my baby
Oh shit my elo is lit too
1616/60
is ur dnite running tailwind then? with electric spider slowing opponents down. Letting usra/tink sweep
Nope
ooh?
Spider does slow down the opps
no TW though
I had the concept with Mence initially with TW
That’s awesome, I’m glad it’s been feeling good
Was meh about it
An improvement indeed
The Galvantula team felt v clunky to start since I had to figure out the correct last 2 slots
Unironically I could probably place Dozogiri and it would probably be
Good
I’m just glad something’s working this reg
I'm just pleased to actually have a team I like
Playing the standard crap and climbing is like, meh
Cause I've just been defaulting to P2 balance and then decided I'm gonna go on a break
The standard stuff doesn’t feel very fun to play I won’t lie
I played p2 Ursa stuff a little, it’s good, I’m not enjoying the game
I like P2 Ursa but it doesn't say "Tofu"
Exactly lol
I know what my team identities are like
Either Standard +1 or Wack Balance
Lmao
My Ursaluna lives CC from Sneasler btw
I like having the 1 off meta guy
Although I calc'd it for heavier damage so not the most surprising
I had this Ursa from Reg D
Reg D.
He didn’t send a set or anything
Bro is reaching unc status
Haha oh is that so?
Me with Dragon Darts:
Darts doesn’t hit Primarina lmao
I'm talking about the Chomp
Chomp can take 1 dart, probably
That's still a beeg chonk
True
If I can live one, then unless it goes Tera Steel just Dart + HV
Or Moonblast
HV is what I usually do so I hit the Flame it's usually beside too
is specs hengo always ran max SpA?
Man I'm dead
Most of the time.
okay cuz i was thinking going abit more bulkier one but ig i'll stay on non-specs one for that
RIP Surging Strokes
I mean it's fine to go for bulk on specs lol




