#competitive_discussion

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mighty stump
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Lol gg

bold geode
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GG

mighty stump
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I'm almost 100% certain that was unwinnable for you if you didn't get a sleep

bold geode
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Yeah I genuinely got lucky AF there, I've never hit those odds

mighty stump
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Like both times

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LOL

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o well

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Do u wanna go again

bold geode
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Yeah I had no idea that that Blast would just wipe Incin lmao

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Fuck it

mighty stump
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Watch the 16% x2 again

chrome knot
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tofu loses to monke is he washed?

mighty stump
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False I lost to RNG in the form of Monke

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Bro pls

bold geode
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WHAT IN THE FUCK

mighty stump
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LOL

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Someone needs to calc that

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-calc 0.16x0.16x0.16

gentle cragBOT
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Result: 0.004096

bold geode
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Bro I'm gonna be so fucked on RNG later

mighty stump
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o well

chrome knot
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cooked by 0.004%

mighty stump
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ONE

bold geode
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Bro I would've fucking died if it happened again

mighty stump
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frfr

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aw

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gg

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O

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I lived

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LOL

bold geode
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Damn that was close

mighty stump
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3 sleeps

bold geode
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I called the Tink switch wrong
I knew it was coming, just messed up the slot it was going into

mighty stump
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Tbf

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If you had that switch

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That could be worse for you since it put Incin in range

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from Blitz

bold geode
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Fair

mighty stump
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But good game that was fun

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Sneasler is a thing

bold geode
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Yeah GG

solid frigate
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time to bully someone with Miraidon in VC kek

mighty stump
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What do you think of the team

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Neat right

bold geode
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Now watch as my luck goes down the fucking drain

mighty stump
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LOL

bold geode
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Oh it's sick
I didn't know what Compound Eyes does KekCry

mighty stump
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Also ngl has Pult been working out for you cause the rest of the team seems alright

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Dunno how i feel about it

bold geode
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Gonna be a lot of Aw Dang Its coming from Dire Claw now boys

mighty stump
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When Outrage didnt KO a neutral I was like "wow this mon sucks"

bold geode
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Me AF

mighty stump
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Wish I got Aventurine

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Btw can you check that Flare Blitz roll

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I'm 4HP

bold geode
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Yeah no Pult is aight
I think Jolly Pult might be a little better even though you miss out on some damage due to just well
Being faster

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Um lemme
What were you at before

solid frigate
mighty stump
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87

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Wonder if that IH was a roll too

bold geode
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87% to what percent?

mighty stump
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Just gimme the damage roll

bold geode
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Ah
Making sure, you just max HP or any more defense?

mighty stump
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4 hp

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lol

bold geode
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Oh 4 EVs

mighty stump
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yea

bold geode
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44 Atk Incineroar Flare Blitz vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Kingambit: 138-164 (78.4 - 93.1%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO
Roll

mighty stump
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Oh favoured to me

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Ig that pays the triple DClaw Sleep

bold geode
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And then max Adamant right?

mighty stump
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Yea

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with LO

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you were at 32 iirc

bold geode
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You didn't have a Defiant boost right?

mighty stump
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no

bold geode
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252+ Atk Kingambit Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 108+ Def Incineroar: 34-41 (16.8 - 20.2%) -- possible 7HKO after Sitrus Berry recovery

mighty stump
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LO

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But probably not much difference

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Close

bold geode
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Yeah my Incin spread is a little weird but still surprised it does that much

mighty stump
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lol

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Dragonite deleted your Incin so fast

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This stupid spider is so funny

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New blog post time

bold geode
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Lmao
I legit like calced only for like
Gallade Psycho Cut 3HKO after Ghost tera

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Then Tera Flying Blast Dnite came back and now I'm like damn
Probably didn't get deleted without Screech drop

mighty stump
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I am almost confident that Kingambit + Galvantula lead into Incin will KO Incin through resist

bold geode
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Anyways on Pult, it's fine, Dragon Tera Dragon Darts was funny, I never clicked Outrage cuz I hate the move, my dumbass always forgets how it works
So that + Geezing coming back just put me back on Tera Steel Blast

mighty stump
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Makes sense

bold geode
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Basically funny thing Brady said
Basically if you CC and Force into a slot (have to Protect Sneasler T1 of course) then the slot just goes bye bye lmao

mighty stump
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Then it's HIsuian Zoroark

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LOL

bold geode
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Then I cry

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But also just U Turn + Moonblast into Indeedee just kills always and makes Psyspam a fuck ton easier

mighty stump
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lol

bold geode
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Though I think like
Salamence thing thru Justin Tang was also neat
Then I also fought Mika with fucking Ceruledge and I was like damn this thing is gas

spiral ridge
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I did face a h zoruark with monkeys team

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I kept saying “why the fuck is tatsugiri hyper voicing”
I didn’t realize til my own hyper voice sent it to sash

mighty stump
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Most fun I had this Reg is staring at my team's type chart

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It's so colourful

spiral ridge
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Lmao

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Lots of green is good

mighty stump
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The x5 Rilla resist is so funny to me

bold geode
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Also Tofu
I'm surprised you actually had that one convo in here earlier lol

mighty stump
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What one convo

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Oh

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The actual information one

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?

bold geode
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Yeah
Surprising
Not that often you get to see it that much in depth and it see understanding lmao

mighty stump
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You mean from the other party?

bold geode
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Yeah
Usually more often of "oh hey you say this bad, now me angy"

mighty stump
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Oh no we got that later down the line

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Lol

bold geode
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Yeah lmao
We got the full spectrum today

mighty stump
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Lol

bold geode
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Y'know actually me angy
Geezing hasn't hit cart ladder for me yet lol

mighty stump
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Lucky you

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Its on SD ladder

foggy lodge
mighty stump
foggy lodge
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uhh i didn't know that existed, thanks

bold geode
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Surprising it ain't on cart ladder even without that team
I figured someone would take it on there or at least try to like
Revise it

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It's ok my plan is very simple

mighty stump
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Lol

bold geode
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It's called No Russian

molten oasis
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How’d the matches go @bold geode

bold geode
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Won one set, lost the other

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Got Sleeps off Dire Claw 3 games in a row

mighty stump
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Lmao

dull ibex
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Hello

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Weegeecee

solid frigate
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Weegeecee

solid frigate
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i need my ear washed again

dull ibex
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Who else we got

solid frigate
dull ibex
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Maybe after I do something

solid frigate
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ok

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I'm gonna just play Star Rail for a bit

dull ibex
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Ok

molten oasis
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Sneasler moment

solid frigate
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truly a Sneasler moment

mighty stump
dull ibex
dull ibex
dull ibex
molten oasis
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Why does brave bird from corv do 80% to my ninetales

solid frigate
fathom geyser
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I agreed to play at a local tomorrow but I have no idea or concept of the current meta, can someone give me a crash course on it?

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Maybe I shouldn't have agreed to it, learning an entire meta and trying to build a acceptable team within a couple of hours is stupid-

mighty stump
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Rental time

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cowabunga

solid frigate
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lol

fathom geyser
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I have massive skill issue when I play a team that I didn't put my mind to.

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I could just take one to see what's going on though- Thanks

dull ibex
molten oasis
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My start of my shift today is so easy lol

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Which means weegeecee time

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Adamant life orb garchomp is kinda awesome

bold geode
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@dull ibex can you kick me out VC?

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It kicked me out and I need you to do so

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You locked it bruh

torn parrot
dull ibex
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its hilarious

bold geode
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The VC is locked

dull ibex
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new

lusty gull
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Would Psychic Noise or Calm Mind fit best on Florges? Already has Wish/Protect/Moonblast

lusty gull
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Grass/Fairy would go hard icl

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Would actually be able to use its ability

torn parrot
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Not sure how to run florges

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It makes no sense

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Symbiosis can work

lusty gull
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I'm using it as more of a support I'd think, a wish passer

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Psychic Noise makes sense to prevent heals but also Calm Mind for longevity

torn parrot
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If you can fit it

lusty gull
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Its got Flower Veil atm so I could run a grass type alongside it

torn parrot
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What grass type

lusty gull
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Thats the problem 🤣

torn parrot
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Does flower veil work against haze

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If it doesn’t then fuck that

lusty gull
molten oasis
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maybe

lusty gull
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Fire coverage too and gale wings for flying prio

molten oasis
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Talonfoame, could also go dnite

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What evs does dnite run lol

molten oasis
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Look I played with what Emma sent me today and I was like “yo LORB eq kinda crazy”

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So uh, now I’m back to square 3 lol

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But also teams change a lot

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(And admittedly I think clam chomp is kinda mid)

torn parrot
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Talon flame seems like the perfect fit

molten oasis
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alr

torn parrot
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And then the last one is very open

molten oasis
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hm

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Well, the psyspam mu is uh, smth

torn parrot
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I did notice that it’s true

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I have an unconventional choice

molten oasis
torn parrot
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Assualt vest hisuian samurott

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(:

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With snarl over scared sword

craggy dagger
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.-.

torn parrot
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Honestly its stats are pretty good with av ngl

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Didn’t realize that when I said it

craggy dagger
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yeahhhh-
i’ve been running av on that thing for a while

solid frigate
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Soak Pelipper.

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SOAK PELIPPER

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thats it i'm done

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I'm done with Reg H

craggy dagger
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i stumbled upon a keen eye pelipper + power herb archaludon with choice specs symbiosis florges .-.

craggy dagger
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  • calm mind umbreon
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which-
my cosmic power clefable kinda deleted :3

solid frigate
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I wanna combust

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anyways gonna play Star Rail

humble cedar
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guys my breloom made a guy ragequit

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actually he made a lot of guys ragequit

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who knew that tailwind and spore could elicit those feelings from people

dull ibex
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@mighty stump if you didnt fall asleep feel free to rejoin we heard some noises that sound like snoring

solid frigate
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ah yes

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Snor Lax

fathom geyser
foggy lodge
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is that a no Archaludon rain team

fathom geyser
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Wait I completely forgot that thing existed.

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Thanks for the sixth slot lmao

foggy lodge
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why Politoed over Pelipper

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Haze?

molten oasis
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I mean its worth giving it a shot

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Still confuses me a little bit

fathom geyser
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What's the quickest way to get rid of Tyranitar

molten oasis
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A punch to the face

solid frigate
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no literally

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just punch em

fathom geyser
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Bullet punch?

foggy lodge
torn parrot
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You just have to hit it really hard

forest arrow
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Anyone using P2 Ursa stuff

dapper crag
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Hey any of u got an milotic to Trade of gladly trade 2 shinys

forest arrow
dapper crag
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Sorryyyy

forest arrow
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All good, just a heads up

dapper crag
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Just joinen and i Didnt quiet know and the ppl there Seem Not to be online sorry for the intrudion

molten oasis
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For the hamu

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Cuz it’s gonna hit like a wet noodle

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It’s attack stat is not great lol

torn parrot
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you have tailwind anyways

molten oasis
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Mhmm

fathom geyser
foggy lodge
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are you playing scarf Archaludon

fathom geyser
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Yeah because it's the first thing that came to mind lol

foggy lodge
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AV ideally

fathom geyser
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Fair, what should I give samurott instead then?

foggy lodge
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Mystic water should work fine but honestly i wouldn't play Samurott in the first place

fathom geyser
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What could I use instead? I die immediately to tr, I can't think of anything worth while.

torn parrot
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50% chance to crit on night slash and aqua cutter

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🐇

foggy lodge
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i hate my Salamence

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I failed a crucial draco meteor that would have killed Amoonguss and then gambit kills Dragonite with kowtow and Gambit cleans up the Garchomp and P2 that was in the back

molten oasis
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Alrighty time to calc an av hamurott

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That may sit on my team for like 6 games

fathom geyser
foggy lodge
fathom geyser
molten oasis
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What does this thing need to outspeed

tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 503: Samurott-Hisui
Types

Water/Dark

Abilities

Torrent, Sharpness (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/108/80/100/65/85

Total

528

Base Species

Samurott

foggy lodge
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it barely outspeeds Dengo

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i don't think its worth it to try to outspeed it

molten oasis
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I’m going av so probably not going max speed

torn parrot
molten oasis
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I’m also going adamant

torn parrot
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Not that it needs to tho

tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 1000: Gholdengo
Types

Steel/Ghost

Abilities

Good as Gold

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

87/60/95/133/91/84

Total

550

molten oasis
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By 1 point and we’re av why go max speed

torn parrot
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Honestly no reason

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It isn’t threatened by gholdengo

fathom geyser
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To be speedy of course BetaWooper

foggy lodge
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here are the speed tiers

hot rampart
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I would like to test my team in a double battle, anyone free? I’ll give a shiny riolu for time

molten oasis
hot rampart
molten oasis
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There’s is like

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Nothing noteworthy to outspeed I think

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Without going jolly at least

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Incin ig

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Jolly max speed incin

fathom geyser
molten oasis
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156 evs

hot rampart
gentle cragBOT
molten oasis
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252+ Atk Miracle Seed Rillaboom Grassy Glide vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Samurott-Hisui in Grassy Terrain: 188-224 (113.9 - 135.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO dawg this bulk is ass lol

fathom geyser
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I highly doubt I'll be done with the team right until the local starts tomorrow lmfao.

molten oasis
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252+ SpA Choice Specs Typhlosion-Hisui Eruption (150 BP) vs. 76 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Samurott-Hisui in Sun: 105-124 (60 - 70.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO ow

torn parrot
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At a minimum max speed ursaluna

fathom geyser
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Eruption typhlosion = Good?

torn parrot
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Personally I always like to outspeed peliper

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That’s just me

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Especially with no prio moves

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Cus just cus it has an av doesn’t mean it can’t be fast

next stump
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assuming it’s an official one

chrome knot
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@next stump im bringing vivi to local this weekend

next stump
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godspeed

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sounds like fun

chrome knot
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its a mash of paul chua & zee team

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and its honestly worked better than i initially thought

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vivi chomp a9 is a nice core ngl

pastel blade
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Does coaching go through your protect?

chrome knot
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yes

balmy glen
tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 666: Vivillon
Types

Bug/Flying

Abilities

Shield Dust, Compound Eyes, Friend Guard (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/52/50/90/50/89

Total

411

Other Formes

Vivillon-Fancy, Vivillon-Pokeball

wild lodge
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Can anyone give any advice for this sunflora sun team which I made to take in the beginning of the ladder for fun last time I asked for help earlier today I was just told to use a rental team and that my team was awful

torn parrot
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Give it weather ball and protect instead of sunny day and trailblaze

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And earth power over one of your grass moves

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Or encore

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encore is good too

wild lodge
gentle cragBOT
wild lodge
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Just updated it thank you plus I didn't even know sunflora can learn earth power

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This is gonna help alot thank you

molten oasis
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Samurott-Hisui @ Assault Vest
Ability: Sharpness
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 148 HP / 156 Atk / 44 Def / 76 SpD / 84 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Aqua Cutter
  • Night Slash
  • Sacred Sword
  • Snarl
    oldmanshrug
bold geode
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Does Hamurott learn a pivot move?

tiny karmaBOT
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Samurott-Hisui's moveset:
Physical Moves

Aerial Ace, Aqua Cutter, Aqua Jet, Aqua Tail, Assurance, Avalanche, Body Slam, Brick Break, Bulldoze, Ceaseless Edge, Covet, Cut, Dig, Dive, Drill Run, Facade, False Swipe, Fling, Flip Turn, Frustration, Fury Cutter, Giga Impact, Iron Tail, Knock Off, Lash Out, Liquidation, Megahorn, Night Slash, Razor Shell, Retaliate, Return, Revenge, Rock Smash, Sacred Sword, Secret Power, Slash, Smart Strike, Sucker Punch, Tackle, Take Down, Thief, Throat Chop, Upper Hand, Waterfall, X-Scissor

Special Moves

Air Slash, Blizzard, Brine, Chilling Water, Dark Pulse, Grass Knot, Hidden Power, Hydro Cannon, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Round, Scald, Snarl, Snore, Surf, Swift, Tera Blast, Trump Card, Vacuum Wave, Water Gun, Water Pledge, Water Pulse, Whirlpool

Status Moves

Attract, Confide, Copycat, Detect, Double Team, Encore, Endure, Focus Energy, Hail, Helping Hand, Protect, Rain Dance, Rest, Scary Face, Screech, Sleep Talk, Snowscape, Soak, Substitute, Swagger, Swords Dance, Tail Whip, Taunt, Toxic, Water Sport, Work Up

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Samurott-Hisui.

bold geode
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Oh it learns Flip Turn

wild lodge
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Idk why but I thought sammurott could learn u turn

fathom geyser
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Without a printer

next stump
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you can sometimes email the organizer a teamsheet as a PDF

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otherwise without a printer you’ll need to hope the store has blank copies when you get there, but arrive early so you have time

molten oasis
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I want sacred sword for coversge

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And snarl for psyspam

foggy lodge
wild lodge
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I decided to take sunflora to a couple matches of showdown to scout for any weaknesses and so far sunflora is one shoting everthing

balmy glen
chrome knot
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look pm

molten oasis
karmic temple
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Stomping trantrum and eq on chomp?

molten oasis
dull ibex
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Guys no way

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Nintendo is dead ass suing PALWORLD

tranquil kraken
dull ibex
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This is so funny

torn parrot
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@molten oasis testing rn?

molten oasis
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Probably soon

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I’m finishing up work shortly

little plank
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There any dozo teams so far doing well?

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Feel like haze and clear smog being on basically every team kills it lol

molten oasis
patent marsh
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It's going to be a tough battle for Pocketpair

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Japan is very pro copyright protection

molten oasis
dull ibex
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It's a lawsuit over patent infringement

patent marsh
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Oh ye

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Patent infringement but still same outlook

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Japan doesn't like any >illegal use of people's properties in general

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I'm assuming they're going to bring up the funny green cinderace, luxray and Cobalion clone

molten oasis
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:/

patent marsh
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Microsoft could help since they're joint developing Palworld with Pocketpair

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But it's going to be a tough battle regardless since it's in japanese court where the plaintiff almost always wins

clever root
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Go to masterball with this squad

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All shiny hunted by me aswell and trained

molten oasis
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I love misclicks

dull ibex
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Wut lmao

molten oasis
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Tf lol

clever root
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Metagross can tank a +6 bodypress from an archaludon

patent marsh
molten oasis
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Time to redo the team

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Thanks talonfoame for making my shit look like hyper offense when I just wanted a Mon to click earthquake with

clever root
molten oasis
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Idc man, I don’t play hyper offense

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I play dengo balance, I’m dropping talon

rustic mountain
dull ibex
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Fr

clever root
molten oasis
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i dont have a psyspam mu without it and i havent tried it and i think on paper its okay

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well the psyspam mu is easier with it

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palafin sucks lol

clever root
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kingambit is calling you like green goblin's mask

molten oasis
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isnt good into torkoal and i dont want 4 fire weaknesses

rustic mountain
# molten oasis palafin sucks lol

nah i wouldnt say sucks, its just not as strong as ppl thought . the 1 turn switch is a lot more of a momentum sucker now then it was prior

molten oasis
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on this team, i dont think its correct

rustic mountain
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nah it isnt

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i was speaking in general

molten oasis
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ik ik

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just kinda throwing it out there, and im looking at other flying types to play with

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cuz apparently talonflame makes this team HO

rustic mountain
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oh shit gc starts 2mw i gta build my team tn PB_shock

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havent played in like a week lmfao

molten oasis
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lol

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good luck, hope you find something

rustic mountain
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i got the team

bold geode
rustic mountain
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jus need to do the evs and teras/moves

dull ibex
molten oasis
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fair enough

rustic mountain
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u doin the gc?

rustic mountain
bold geode
rustic mountain
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prolly jus did their due diligence

clever root
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I just love the bulldoze into weakness policy iron head into psyspam

rustic mountain
bold geode
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Yeah it was just pulling the trigger tbh
Although tbf, Palworld basically fucking died off anyways so did they really need to

bold geode
rustic mountain
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cool

molten oasis
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Cuz that’s not my goal I wanted balance

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May just have to spam protect for garchomp to click eq lol

torn parrot
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Who cares how it looks

molten oasis
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...

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its like, i feed into it being HO and just make dengo specs or just, replace the talonflame but ill play it and see ig

bold geode
molten oasis
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if it feels like HO im just gonna play some other team

torn parrot
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Arighty

bold geode
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Like they suing the fuckin thing AFTER it basically went to irrelevancy

rustic mountain
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try harc idk

dull ibex
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Palworld actually has like 25k players still

bold geode
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Like I honestly forgot Palworld existed

clever root
dull ibex
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Its not irrelevant yet

bold geode
clever root
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Works rly well with ur garchom

dull ibex
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Not being in the news doesn't equal not popuslr

bold geode
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I haven't seen
A fuckin thing about Palworld like at all for a while now

rustic mountain
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its weird cuz like jus use paul chuas team haha idk y u gta try and reinvent the wheel wen ur basically jus building something thats relatively similar. feel uve done that a few times this format

molten oasis
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...

dull ibex
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Yes because mainstream only. Covers new stuff

molten oasis
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wanted to play dengo a9, guess not

bold geode
rustic mountain
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lets get it

rustic mountain
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infernape will shine someday

bold geode
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Red don't make me bust out that one Garganacl

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Covert Cloak Explosion Garganacl

rustic mountain
dull ibex
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Go ahead

molten oasis
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nah

dull ibex
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It wouldn't be hard to counter it at worst game two

bold geode
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Me whipping out Gastrodon again like

molten oasis
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idt replacing gambit on that team is a good idea, or dnite

dull ibex
molten oasis
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i dont wanna try its not gonna feel better than the thing that took second

dull ibex
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I don't play that team anymore lmao

bold geode
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Y'know what Red

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Your grandma

dull ibex
bold geode
dull ibex
bold geode
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Dw bout it

dull ibex
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Mods ban him

clever root
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Tera normal normal gem belly drum explosion snorlax helping hand boost

rustic mountain
bold geode
#

Mods show me his battle bucket

rustic mountain
#

u see how convoluted ur process is haha

bold geode
#

The way my brain is convoluted to see the constitution in the institution in the misconstrusion and bars bitch, calm down Dr Seuss

molten oasis
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:/

bold geode
#

Yeah bitch
Gorilla Gorilla Gorilla

molten oasis
#

i cant argue with that ig

rustic mountain
#

im only trynna help its just hard the way u constrict ur options in a sense

molten oasis
#

i dont really like copying teams that much, it feels better to get something working without copying another persons teams

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i know its completely fine

rustic mountain
#

i love copying teams give me that sauce 🫴

molten oasis
#

its generally just personal preference, i like making my own teams, i'll take ideas like the sash a9

torn parrot
rustic mountain
#

yea but u gta be able to recognize wen ur going down a route thats basically the same as someone elses and gauge how to navigate from there. otherwise u jus wind up w/ sub par versions especially if u arent willing to mess around with the core itself to even see if improvements can be made. if u wind up changing enough it almost becomes ur team anyway. look at pat conners, he took 5/6 of a team and replaced 1 mon and ppl started calling it the patcon6

patent marsh
spiral ridge
clever root
#

Run a special attacking supreme overlord choice specs kingambit

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Nobody will see it coming

spiral ridge
bold geode
rustic mountain
#

and even less players are boyt lvl where they come up with the craziest stuff that really only seems to work for them as effectively. but u need to reach a certain point of skill and understanding to actually do that

torn parrot
#

Aha

rustic mountain
#

not even to discourage ppl but i think a lot of players try and teambuild before they really should

torn parrot
#

I agree

rustic mountain
#

i wouldve improved a lot faster if i figured that out sooner wen i started

torn parrot
#

I think a lot of new players would be better off stealing a team to learn the game

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Rather than going through the whole process of “my favorite Pokémon, oh I got destroyed, I’m miserable”

rustic mountain
#

yea i remember thinking i was gna break the meta coming in and wen u really understand things better u realize jus how hard that is to do

molten oasis
#

great lost to sub ape

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thats a new one

rustic mountain
#

im like why is nobody using beeheeyem its got great sp atk stat and its like ok and? haha like i got mball w/ it but i was barely hovering 50% wr. its like sure i made it work in 1 sense but if im actually trynna get better and win consistently is this how i wanna do it? nd my answer was no. took me a bit longer to get there tho lol

molten oasis
#

i get what everyones saying

molten oasis
#

definitely feel discouraged cuz i now feel like im a way lower skill level

torn parrot
#

Oh I wasn’t really talking about you specifically just adding on to the statement

foggy lodge
#

I still don't create my own teams i mostly use other teams and change some things that i think could work for my style

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also i feel so bad at teambuilding at this reg lol

molten oasis
foggy lodge
#

is like in reg G and F i actually built decent teams and now i can't create anything

molten oasis
#

so it feels kinda directed towards me, not that it was intended to be

rustic mountain
# molten oasis i get what everyones saying

i jus think itd do u some good to focus for a bit on jus playing well and using good mons and teams. i feel the overfixation on the teambuilding aspect is hindering ur ability to actually improve at this moment in time. its not to say u cant get there im not saying to abandon wanting to teambuild completely.
and i was there before like i was showcasing my own experience to say like i get it in a way where ur coming from. it wasnt to call u out for being low skill lvl or anything like that cause i dont think thats necessarily the case but its just u have to be just that good to be a great teambuilder.

#

these are obviously also suggestions u go about it how u want

molten oasis
#

...ig

spiral ridge
#

ANSWER for my own dumb curiosity thanks!!

molten oasis
#

it probably help, also feels like such a major step back

rustic mountain
#

i dont think it would be

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i think itd actually be a step forward even if it feels ur taking a step back

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once u understand better why teams are good, whats common etc u are more informed in ur teambuilding decisions. and ur skill expression is able to take more form because u actually see things in a way u didnt before

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cause playing vs stuff w/ subpar teams does not give u the best representation of what u really need to be doing. u jus tunnel vision on how to improve wat ur workin on at the moment w/ little direction on how u achieve that which is what i feel has been the case for a bit now with u

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hence the suggestions

molten oasis
#

the hamurott doesn't even feel that bad lol, thats fair

torn parrot
#

Ayo!

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I stole a really cool ceruledge team that did really well a few days ago and I was like “wow this feels so good this is like a whole different world of options”

bold geode
molten oasis
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k, i

torn parrot
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And the funny thing is it had 4 ground weaknesses which just like broke everything that I thought was right

rustic mountain
dull ibex
spiral ridge
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Lmao

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Nice

dull ibex
#

its okay ive since taken a few sets

molten oasis
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wasn't expecting that comment lol, but i think thats fair

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that'll take a while but its for the sake of improvement

dull ibex
#

ask monke about my dire claw

rustic mountain
#

exactly, and jus enjoy the ride. it could be sooner then u think

molten oasis
molten oasis
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lmfao

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i'll put this team i have on hold ig, which, the hamurott was working lol

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it won me a few games

rustic mountain
#

like i said drago those are suggestions if u wanna keep playing the team go for it shrug

molten oasis
#

went 6-1 which is solid, but still i should put it asside and focus on good stuffs, no i think you're right

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idk how to make the things i keep calling out being good anti meta work well

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the zacian stuff i had was also more after zacian started popping up in tournaments, same with a9

bold geode
rustic mountain
#

maybe zacian but i thought u were on a9 pretty early maybe i misremembered

molten oasis
#

i was

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but the call for no veil was paul's

dull ibex
rustic mountain
#

yea thats a hard call to make but it wound up being like almost perfect haha

molten oasis
#

i had encore which i thought was a strong tool on it

bold geode
molten oasis
#

and freeze dry was good into peli, weather control too

rustic mountain
#

yea jus general good coverage and disruption

molten oasis
#

veil is not it

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too much weather control

dull ibex
bold geode
#

Ugh some of my emotes are gone now
Imma dip for a bit, lil irritated about something rn

rustic mountain
#

it seems too exploitable and ud much rather click one of those other moves to be more pro active

molten oasis
#

in restricted a9 just kinda sucks but maybe sash a9 could work then (cope)

torn parrot
#

My friend been playing sash
It feels really good since it explodes to everything

rustic mountain
#

if u wanna use a9 and are gna use good stuffs rn anyway why not try pauls team?

molten oasis
#

i'll play around with dengo goodstuffs i think, just avoid the niche stuff for now

rustic mountain
#

least u can play it while its good in that case

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cause that mons gna be mid in reg g 2.0

molten oasis
#

im probably gonna look into p2 ursa

rustic mountain
#

that team seems very strong

molten oasis
#

p2 ursa has been running incin amoonguss dengo a lot, which is, roughly what im after

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or just go incin amoonguss dengo and go from there oldmanshrug

rustic mountain
#

yea dengo is on like every p2 ursa variant rn

rustic mountain
#

one of the highest represented mons in top cut

molten oasis
#

dengo is kinda the only reason im enjoying the format, and a9

rustic mountain
#

dengos fun i havent played it like all month tho lol

molten oasis
#

i still think a9 dengo can work, maybe dengo over gambit can work on pauls team but eh

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gambit does a good job on that team too

rustic mountain
#

yea

lusty night
#

Gold is crazy

rustic mountain
#

gna help vs those psy spam teams and offsetting intimidates for chomp and dnite

molten oasis
#

dengo helps with psyspam sorta as well tbh

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hatt psyspam kinda hates dengo

torn parrot
#

My favorite way to play dengo is playing him like a dumbass

rustic mountain
#

which means

molten oasis
#

ARMA psyspam, is smth else

torn parrot
#

Explode

molten oasis
#

so tera steel MIR specs

torn parrot
#

Yes

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But I see the value in nasty plot

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esp against trick room leads

rustic mountain
#

i think both are very good and the reason why dengo is arguably the best mon in the format

molten oasis
#

straight up dengo seems fine on paul's team

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incin amoonguss supports it

rustic mountain
#

that they do

molten oasis
#

chomp/a9 protect it

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i think the team seems to operate on not a set up mode tho, but seems balancey

rustic mountain
#

def is a more balance based team

molten oasis
#

i'll try dengo, i think arma psyspam should be okay theres an incin

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as you said could be a better variant, team lacks special attackers

#

the multiscale dnite still throws me off

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what would you wanna outspeed with the dnite? or do you just go max hp max attack

rustic mountain
#

dnite seemed like a big part of pauls gameplan for his stream games

molten oasis
#

i think it was, tera flying tera blast chunks

rustic mountain
#

flying coverage is jus few and far between yea

#

if ur multiscale id try going more bulk tbh

molten oasis
#

max hp max attack for now ig

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idk waht it would need to outspeed tbh

rustic mountain
#

not sure on speed if u need certain benchmarks u need to hit u can jus adjust as u go

molten oasis
#

yea

lusty night
#

I’m gonna be honest dragonite is so annoying like it’s so good at the one thing it does

rustic mountain
#

id assume ud want a little bit of speed but not quite sure wat ud want to outspeed, maybe like hit 128-130 range to outspeed a lot of middling speed stuff

molten oasis
#

cool lol

#

thats a lot of investment, but yea

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(dnite starts at 100 speed)

#

Dragonite @ Lum Berry
Ability: Multiscale
Level: 50
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 124 HP / 156 Atk / 228 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Tera Blast
  • Extreme Speed
  • Low Kick
  • Protect
lusty night
#

That works

molten oasis
#

think i'll train this for gc ingame and play it there

lusty night
#

I didn’t even know dnite learned low kick lol

molten oasis
#

Dnite has a fat movepool

molten oasis
#

Anyway turtle card box time

mighty stump
molten oasis
#

I’ll send if I get any hits

#

First pack had a ace spec lmao

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Nothing crazy, the stellar cards are pretty tho

#

I opened a booster box for scarlet and violet a few weeks ago and got a few great pulls tho

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So, my luck probably went there

#

This came with the box

#

I’m buying a booster box when I have money, there’s a Hydrapple secret art I need it

foggy lodge
torn parrot
#

Does roar work on hat

#

Or no

tiny karmaBOT
#
Move: Roar

The target is forced to switch out and be replaced with a random unfainted ally. Fails if the target is the last unfainted Pokemon in its party, or if the target used Ingrain previously or has the Suction Cups Ability.

Type

Normal

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

PP (max)

20 (32)

Priority

-6

Move Flags

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Authentic

Bypasses substitute.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Reflectable

Affected by Magic Coat and Magic Bounce.

Sound

Does not affect Soundproof.

bold geode
#

Don't work on Hat

torn parrot
#

Kk

molten oasis
#

(i probably wont buy a box, yet)

mighty stump
#

buying singles or gacha

#

the question of life

dull ibex
#

tofu did you pass out

mighty stump
#

Yep

mighty stump
dull ibex
#

ig thats fair

shadow wind
#

Finally hit 1700 this reg

#

With Altaria of all things too

torn parrot
#

LET’s GOOOOOOOOO

shadow wind
#

Altaria and Kantonian Arcanine actually, odd

#

Always the dumb stuff that works

deep coyote
#

Hey everyone I was hoping to find someone with the know how and patience too teach a noob the ins and outs of pvp? If anyone is interested in helping me I will be very appreciative 🙂

mighty stump
#

Beginner resources are available in the pins.

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Are you interested in doubles or singles?

deep coyote
#

In all honesty I'm more interested in singles but I see that the preferred battle mode is doubles so I'm leaning towards learning that the most. I'm sort of looking for a coach too assist me. I know how to breed and ev train I just don't exactly know where to start with pvp because it's so complex and there are so many strategies and different moves. It's quite overwhelming

mighty stump
#

Lucky for you, you can streamline the initial learning by simply using an established team.

torn parrot
#

After playing doubles I can never go back to singles

molten oasis
#

after playing doubles i refuse to play singles

mighty stump
#

This means you can wholly focus on just learning what the game is like, and how things work

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So yeah, I do recommend the pinned resources

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Then if you have any questions, you can always ask here.

deep coyote
#

I'll have a look 🙂 thankyou. I do have one question while you are here.

mighty stump
#

Fire away.

deep coyote
#

I was playing pvp before and I have a level 100 sceptile that has a nature that boosts its speed and I ev trained it to the max but was going 2nd too a tatsugiri or whatever it's called. How is that possible?

mighty stump
#

It's either something to do with your IVs, and/or that Tatsugiri probably was holding Choice Scarf

strange fjord
#

Choice Scarf?

mighty stump
#

Which is an item that boosts Spe of the holder by 1.5x

deep coyote
#

before the battle started i didnt see my opponents pokemon holding any items. is that hidden from me so players dont know opponents strats?

shadow wind
#

Yeah

mighty stump
deep coyote
#

i was playing casual?

shadow wind
#

Doesn't matter

deep coyote
#

ohh

#

that makes sense

mighty stump
#

Same thing.

shadow wind
#

Urshifu forms are also hidden

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As well as Gen 8 dogs

torn parrot
shadow wind
#

😔

#

Have you thought that this entire time?

torn parrot
#

and a tree

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And it’s a drawing

deep coyote
#

my sceptile is as follows

timid nature i split evs for sp attack and hp but maxed its speed. stats are hp 312 attack 185 defense 166 speed 372 sp def 206 and sp attack is 279

shadow wind
#

I thought those stats were crazy for a second then remembered level 100

deep coyote
#

is what i did bad

shadow wind
#

It's only the ending to the greatest game of all time

mighty stump
#

Ranked is played at level 50. Plus, the base stats come into play. It's more important to talk about the EVs invested rather than the final stat number

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Investments are done with purpose.

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EV investing isn't going to make or break your team if done generally correct, but there are right/wrong ways

torn parrot
#

Try planning your stats on the website showdown

mighty stump
#

For example: you need to understand what role your Pokemon is going to be performing to better inform what stats you'll be investing in

deep coyote
#

i went 126 hp 126 sp attack and 252 in speed

mighty stump
#

This sort of thing is also gone through in VGC guide

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So I recommend reading the pins first

deep coyote
gentle cragBOT
deep coyote
#

is it ok if i dm you after for further assistance. if not its ok.

shadow wind
#

I find it funny how complicated ev spreads look until you realize they usually just hit a jump point and used a calculator for the defensive parts

mighty stump
deep coyote
#

thanks

mighty stump
#

DM is fine but it might get buried/not reply

deep coyote
#

are screenshots allowed to be posted here?

mighty stump
#

Yes.

dull ibex
#

playing weegeecee is fun

mighty stump
#

weegeecee

dull ibex
#

ye

#

haha temtem

mighty stump
dull ibex
#

sure ill be in my personal

deep coyote
# mighty stump Yes.

for some reason i cant share my screenshot. not important though. does everyone use Pikalytics?

torn parrot
torn parrot
mighty stump
mighty stump
#

Probably

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Lol

deep coyote
#

alright ill research some more stuff and when i have some questions ill post here. thanks everyone

torn parrot
#

That’s an ev calculator

deep coyote
#

what are the other ones?

#

arent they the same thing lol

strange fjord
#

Nah, MunchStats da best truuust. (also thats just an EV calculator. MunchStats and Pikalytics shows usage Statistics for popular Pokemon. LabMaus shows tournament results and usage)

mighty stump
#

For EV calcs.

strange fjord
#

different tools for different things. look around and see what could be helpful to you

deep coyote
#

ill have a look 🙂

strange fjord
#

you can also ask if you have any questions

deep coyote
#

i just dont know how to use these sites lmao

#

im very new to playing pokemon

strange fjord
#

Do you know what EVs are?

torn parrot
#

I hate Sam witwicky

deep coyote
#

I said earlier in the chat what stumps me in a way is how much strats and different moves there are

#

I'm hearing every pokemon needs a role on the team

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And they need to work in sync with each other

strange fjord
#

MunchStats is a website that shows you how often a Pokemon is used on a team. It also shows you how often an item, move or ability is used on a Pokemon.

#

It also shows common EV spreads that a Pokemon has.

#

Pikalytic has this too. MunchStats also the EVs usage broken down into Categories and Tera data as well.

#

The data updates once a month

#

LabMaus can show you the top teams that are performing well in tournaments. Along with a link to the examples of the team's moves, items, abilities and Tera types that performed well using the selection of Pokemon

#

You can look for a specific Pokemon usage and trends for tournament usage

#

The Nerd of Now Damage Calculator lets you input your Pokemon's EVs and Nature and the opposing Pokemon EVs and nature to see how much damage a Pokemon would do.

#

You can add items, field effects and stat boosts to have an idea of how much damage you should expect your Pokemon to do

#

Any questions?

mighty stump
#

What's a Pokemon

strange fjord
mighty stump
#

Haha pocket monster

strange fjord
deep coyote
# strange fjord Any questions?

tysm for all that. its what i was looking for. an in depth answer and assistance. if you have time one day we should have a battle so you can see if my pokemon are any good. i only have 4 battle ready pokemon im in the process of making more

gentle cragBOT
real prairie
dull ibex
molten oasis
#

mm yes people in low ladder and their love for stall

real prairie
solid frigate
deep coyote
real prairie
#

things like Poison, Salt Cure, Leech seed

#

slow chip damage with bulky mons to hang around

#

works better in a Solos format

solid frigate
#

also kills the Vibe of Doubles

deep coyote
#

I had a person keep using encore and leech seed. Problem what I'm a noob and I started with sword dance. Then I got stuck 😢

real prairie
solid frigate
#

thats why Urshifu is good in terms of that

It beats Most Stalls

#

so thats why Reg D is good

#

in terms of beat stall

real prairie
#

yeah, Wo-Chien, Leeech seed, ingrain, Leftovers, Grassy Terrain, Giga drain made me want to do violent things

solid frigate
#

Wo-Chien Does not do that?

#

at least only Lefties Leech Seed

#

usually they run Ruination/Foul Play,Protect and Pollen puff

real prairie
#

oh yeah they wouldnt set up Terrain themselves.

#

but the combination of all of it is hell

#

Ruination is a must

solid frigate
#

you have to be VERY specfic for this to happen so would not recommend

real prairie
#

oh yeah, its not that viable, especially now

solid frigate
real prairie
#

its just attrocious if you get caught in it

real prairie
#

im more of a Jeremy Clarkson type of VGC player 🤣

solid frigate
#

shifuconcern this guy exists

real prairie
solid frigate
#

not to mention Reg G stall does not fucking work when damage output is nuts

solid frigate
#

plus top players would not run Full stall

real prairie
#

No i know, but someone asked what Stall is, and i was reminising of how painful stall reg C was

knotty mirage
#

I have question is there any other mon that have fire / water typing that's not volcanion ?

mighty stump
#

Why do you need one

knotty mirage
#

Just wondering because having water / fire as defensive mon seem's really neat

mighty stump
#

Well unless you find a way to get Volcanion legal

#

Lol

knotty mirage
#

No i'm actually asking is volcanion the only fire / water mon or is there other mon that have that typing too

#

The problem with volcanion it's mythical which cannot be used on any reg untill when the games is at end of life span

mighty stump
#

I know what you're asking, I answered indirectly

#

Direct answer: No

knotty mirage
#

Oh damn

#

I mean i do have volcanion from the swsh event but currently it on the box collecting dust

deep coyote
#

Is bottle capping mons what most people do or do they breed for iv ?

mighty stump
#

either works. I just bottle cap especially if I shiny hunt.

deep coyote
#

I have a few nice shinies that I bred. My favourite is my charmander. Haven't used him yet though

#

Could bottle cap and evolve him he's got 5 best ivs

real prairie
#

is there much priority spam usage in reg H, feels like its dropped off the face of the earth

real prairie
real prairie
#

sorry yes, "best"

deep coyote
#

I love having the perfect pokemon stats wise even if i don't use the stat. I love seeing best

real prairie
deep coyote
#

😂😂

#

What's the chances of me breeding a shiny 6 iv pokemon

#

Closest I got was very good 😢

real prairie
#

not impossible, but grindy.

#

need to use 6iv Shiny Ditto (from another regioun) holding a destiny knot, 6iv pokemon of choice with the correct nature holding an everstone

deep coyote
gentle cragBOT
chrome knot
shadow wind
#

Oh my bad, didn’t see what you replied to

ebon depot
#

does hyper training mean raising a pokemon from bad stats to amazing stats or does that mean maxing the stats a pokemon with bad stats can ever achieve?

real prairie
#

Ivs are random between 1-31 when the mon is generated, Hypertraining maxes these out at 31

molten oasis
chrome knot
#

“can”

#

OR you CAN get $150 worth of bulk lmao

molten oasis
#

Fair enough lol

chrome knot
#

you have to hit a combination of all the chases to make money back on it

#

or 1 sir terapagos

junior patrol
#

I lowkey wanna use a Sand Team with Lycanroc but need a bit of help building it

molten oasis
#

That’s fair, anyway

#

How long does it take for the ghimmighoul chests to come back

#

Nvm figured it out

dawn crown
#

With black glasses kingambit do I do Tera dark or a defensive Tera

molten oasis
#

Tera dark

torn parrot
#

Butt

solid frigate
#

?

torn parrot
#

I said butt there’s NOTHING TO UNDERSTAND

spiral ridge
#

Butt

torn parrot
mighty stump
#

I am running into nothing but Dondozo teams oml

mighty stump
torn parrot
#

Thank you vegan meat 🤝

chrome knot
#

maya

torn parrot
#

Heya

chrome knot
#

vivi chomp a9 is brokennnn

torn parrot
#

Wait what the hell iv never seen that type thing in my life can you send me what that’s a hidden treasure

#

In your name

chrome knot
#

i noticed one of my friends were also on vivi chomp so we smashed our teams together and its so good

chrome knot
#

idk ask @merry summit i jus asked for a bunny

molten oasis
#

That sucks

torn parrot
#

That’s a cool combo of all 3

#

Of those guys

chrome knot
#

yaes

molten oasis
#

I played it a bit, garchomp is stupid lol

#

It does so much damage

#

And then fast sleep/ice coverage to keep it going is really nice as well

chrome knot
torn parrot
#

I know primarina is frail defensively but I didn’t think I would have to ev to not get two shot by a raw stomping tantrum with no life orb

#

Garchomp strong

molten oasis
#

Lmfao

#

Yea prime’s physical bulk is so ass

#

Prima*

#

I love auto correct

mighty stump
#

I should go lock in my GC team if I can even register

real prairie
#

oh is that this weekend?

molten oasis
#

I can’t wait for bo1 cheese lol

mighty stump
#

Im probably about to get cheesed very hard with 0 dozo MU but o well

molten oasis
#

I still have to train up my team, and evolve my ghimmighoul

torn parrot
chrome knot
mighty stump
#

LOL

molten oasis
#

I have amoonguss

real prairie
#

I am in no position on cart to play, whens registration deadline? might be a 5am grind to get a team ready 🤣

mighty stump
#

Amogus when Tera Blast Fly

molten oasis
torn parrot
#

😔

mighty stump
#

at leat our GXE is sitting at 72% so that's something...

real prairie
molten oasis
#

I’ve been climbing with chomp a9 dengo amoonguss, feels solid

#

Rn I just have incin and dnite, effectively replacing the gambit on Paul’s team

torn parrot
#

How’s games been going

molten oasis
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Haven’t brought dnite once

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The other 5 feel good

torn parrot
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I can’t play gc because iv never felt good after playing gc

mighty stump
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doubt i even have the time

torn parrot
mighty stump
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Im working friday/saturday and last thing i wanna do is bust out 15 games of CTS

molten oasis
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Lmfao

mighty stump
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But its not bad

molten oasis
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idk if I’m keeping the dnite tbh, I get its role on the team im just kinda not feeling it

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Is it that team you showed the other day

mighty stump
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Yea p much

molten oasis
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Nice

mighty stump
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Its neat and I don't have to think too hard

molten oasis
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Cool mons too

mighty stump
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So on a new alt and thought to just casually play it out

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Probably will take it out to Bo3 down the line and refine it since now I have proof of concept

molten oasis
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Nice

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Taking tree’s advice rn, playing pre established teams/good stuffs rn to get a better understanding of the game

mighty stump
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Sounds lame and sensible

molten oasis
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Tofu

mighty stump
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Wat

molten oasis
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Yk I’ve been struggling to get shit working lol

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I agree it’s lame but I want to improve

mighty stump
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Drago

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Do you genuinely believe I think it's lame

molten oasis
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No lol

mighty stump
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The same mantra I preach to new players like I'm reciting a bible ☠️

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I'm excited about a new toothbrush

molten oasis
mighty stump
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What has my life come to

molten oasis
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The little things in life are exciting I suppose

torn parrot
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Nice win loss

molten oasis
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Tofu is good at game

mighty stump
torn parrot
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D: it’s my baby

molten oasis
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Oh shit my elo is lit too

mighty stump
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1616/60

silk stream
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is ur dnite running tailwind then? with electric spider slowing opponents down. Letting usra/tink sweep

mighty stump
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Nope

silk stream
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ooh?

mighty stump
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Spider does slow down the opps

molten oasis
mighty stump
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no TW though

molten oasis
mighty stump
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I had the concept with Mence initially with TW

torn parrot
mighty stump
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Was meh about it

mighty stump
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The Galvantula team felt v clunky to start since I had to figure out the correct last 2 slots

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Unironically I could probably place Dozogiri and it would probably be

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Good

molten oasis
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I’m just glad something’s working this reg

mighty stump
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I'm just pleased to actually have a team I like

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Playing the standard crap and climbing is like, meh

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Cause I've just been defaulting to P2 balance and then decided I'm gonna go on a break

molten oasis
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The standard stuff doesn’t feel very fun to play I won’t lie

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I played p2 Ursa stuff a little, it’s good, I’m not enjoying the game

mighty stump
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I like P2 Ursa but it doesn't say "Tofu"

molten oasis
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Exactly lol

mighty stump
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I know what my team identities are like

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Either Standard +1 or Wack Balance

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Lmao

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My Ursaluna lives CC from Sneasler btw

molten oasis
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I like having the 1 off meta guy

mighty stump
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Although I calc'd it for heavier damage so not the most surprising

molten oasis
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Didn’t we bo3 with p2 Ursa in reg. F once?

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I think you were playing Ursa

mighty stump
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I had this Ursa from Reg D

molten oasis
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What Ursa lol

solid frigate
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Reg D.

molten oasis
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He didn’t send a set or anything

bold geode
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molten oasis
bold geode
molten oasis
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Chomp can take 1 dart, probably

bold geode
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That's still a beeg chonk

molten oasis
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True

bold geode
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If I can live one, then unless it goes Tera Steel just Dart + HV

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Or Moonblast

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HV is what I usually do so I hit the Flame it's usually beside too

mighty stump
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ur mom

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RIP Monke

zinc totem
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is specs hengo always ran max SpA?

bold geode
mighty stump
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Most of the time.

zinc totem
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okay cuz i was thinking going abit more bulkier one but ig i'll stay on non-specs one for that

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mighty stump