competitive_discussion

[torn parrot]

ngl

lol

[molten oasis]

no plz

[solid frigate]

i wanna build a team around it but i do not wanna play it at ALL

[molten oasis]

none of that

[solid frigate]

b01 moment

[molten oasis]

a whimsi u-turned on me t1 once

i quit before eforce came out

[torn parrot]

iv seen beat up earthquake u turn aqua jet

its like rolling the dice

[solid frigate]

why would they run this shi-

[molten oasis]

fast u-turn user

yk, to make your enemies cry

[solid frigate]

aka

Purgatory

i saw more offensive Volcarona honestly

rather than Support,Which make sense

[torn parrot]

iv seen a lot of crazy volcs

they're all scary

i saw a choice scarf volcarona

lol

[molten oasis]

offensive volc is the thing tho

or do you mean like, specs or LORB

[solid frigate]

i think just Standard Volc

[torn parrot]

i really like aggressive teams

they're fun

[molten oasis]

me like balance

[solid frigate]

mine aren't that agressive

More Like Balance in some way

[molten oasis]

me like lots of options, me like flexibility

[solid frigate]

i think i'm just coping on using Milotic as incin answer-

[molten oasis]

woooooow

[solid frigate]

lemme cope it did kill one

[rustic mountain]

theres just better intimidate deterrents like gambit and ape

milotics ok jus takes a bit to get goin w/ coil stuff otherwise it kinda jus sits there

[solid frigate]

i mean i have pult and Archa

and idk double Ghost or Double Steel is ok

[rustic mountain]

im speaking in the general sense

for milotics lack of place

[solid frigate]

fair

[torn parrot]

i forgot dinner

late night dinner here i come

i got sucked into shodown ladder

[rustic mountain]

also double steel or ghost is fine just depends on the team

p sure a gambit arch team jus won the vr tour

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/5f9afbab7c0df7a8

yeah not the best on me

but Gambit could be nice as in TR MUs

[rustic mountain]

arch/rilla/peli is a good core, everything else feels slapped on

maushold can be on those teams but its usually w/ ape

fail to see why pult/milotic cant just become basculegion

[solid frigate]

how did i forgot about the boi

But then again i'm stupid sometimes and wanna use Pult

[rustic mountain]

pults good i jus dont see it on this team

[molten oasis]

basc the goat

[tropic robin]

Is a jolly nature worth it on an Incineroar? A lot of websites say jolly but I’m just like?! I thought it was too slow to benefit from that

[torn parrot]

Basc is like the scariest mf ever

[molten oasis]

(i like basc he's like shifu but not shifu (and not tauros))

[solid frigate]

Impish or Careful

[rustic mountain]

some ppl run faster incin but i think jolly now specifically is a bit troll unless u have good reasoning for it

otherwise yea something like impish or careful is a safe bet generally

[solid frigate]

ah yes

You aren't Urshifu

but that does not mean you can't be Urshifu

[torn parrot]

For some reason jolly incin keeps popping up with restricted

[molten oasis]

hes MY urshifu

(i miss it so much)

[solid frigate]

didn't i use Basc with Peli Archa Meow before?

[tropic robin]

I was between adamant or careful, thanks!

[gentle crag]

teddy5325s has given 1 Gen Rep to treeco.

[rustic mountain]

yea it usually does atleast the 2 gens ive done comp. generally good reasoning to take advantage of faster fake out or built in speed control the team has

its very specific

[solid frigate]

Adamant is a waste for Incin

Run Impish for Defense or Careful for Special Defense

[rustic mountain]

i wouldnt say its common even in restricted formats

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

jolly incin like, exists

because being faster fo is nice

but then why not just go rilla lol

[tropic robin]

I saw timid Hydrapple on serebii and I had to laugh LMAO

[molten oasis]

[rustic mountain]

adamant too generally u want to have good reasoning for, like it gives u an advantageous roll for a specific mon/mu that otherwise wouldnt. its all about making choices w/ purpose. knowing why ur choosing wat u are

[solid frigate]

but it depends on what Incin set

@tropic robin what is your Incin set btw

[molten oasis]

POV tofu and his close combat incin

[rustic mountain]

[solid frigate]

ok thats like

Special case

[molten oasis]

sure

havent gone hunting today for alpha harc, that hunt, is gonna take a while

so i might just do basc tomorrow

[tropic robin]

Intimidate
Parting shot, Fake Out, Knock off, Flare Blitz
(I really want to use darkest lariat but I know that’s taboo instead of knock off for this guy LMAO, I’ll bite the bullet)

[solid frigate]

i haven't have any progress so same here

[molten oasis]

and i have to hunt hydreigon with someone with scarlet

[rustic mountain]

on a slight side bar ik ppl complaining about this format but man im using h typhloshion and its actually good im using meowscarada again, i did well w/ overqwil. im using the homie prim. its mostly pretty fun

[solid frigate]

ok then i guess Adamant is fine then if you want higher roll

Lariat incin is alright if you want to screw someone with defense boost

[solid frigate]

Meowscarada user? noice

[molten oasis]

i think once you find the things you like its fun

dengo hydrei got me for the reg

[rustic mountain]

maybe not too much longer but for now yea

[molten oasis]

meow's fun, its okay

[rustic mountain]

idk theres been quite a few things that have been fun for me so far. i was jus listing a few

[molten oasis]

sure yea

[solid frigate]

i might use it over rilla cuz it would be funni to Triple axel someone

[molten oasis]

triple axel just kills rillaboom lol

if you go protean

[rustic mountain]

yea idk about triple axel but its a good mon. its different now then back in series 1 nd 2

[molten oasis]

triple axel on band sets only imo

[solid frigate]

i guess Dnite but like thats besides the point

[molten oasis]

sash sets i feel like want sucker/trick/knock off

and protect

[rustic mountain]

if u feel u need the coverage ig

[molten oasis]

the other option is like, play rough, unless you go 2 dark trick u-turn

[solid frigate]

and u turn but idk i did not use Uturn in sash sets as well so its preference

[tiny karma]

Meowscarada's moveset:

Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Bite, Brick Break, Bullet Seed, Facade, Fling, Flower Trick, Foul Play, Giga Impact, Grassy Glide, Knock Off, Lash Out, Leafage, Low Kick, Low Sweep, Night Slash, Petal Blizzard, Play Rough, Quick Attack, Scratch, Seed Bomb, Shadow Claw, Slash, Sucker Punch, Take Down, Thief, Throat Chop, Thunder Punch, Trailblaze, Triple Axel, U-turn

Special Moves

Aura Sphere, Chilling Water, Dark Pulse, Disarming Voice, Energy Ball, Frenzy Plant, Giga Drain, Grass Knot, Grass Pledge, Hyper Beam, Leaf Storm, Magical Leaf, Mud-Slap, Pollen Puff, Power Gem, Shadow Ball, Solar Beam, Swift, Tera Blast

Status Moves

Agility, Ally Switch, Charm, Copycat, Double Team, Endure, Fake Tears, Grassy Terrain, Helping Hand, Hone Claws, Leech Seed, Nasty Plot, Protect, Psych Up, Rest, Skill Swap, Sleep Talk, Spikes, Substitute, Tail Whip, Taunt, Toxic Spikes, Trick, Trick Room, Worry Seed

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Meowscarada.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[molten oasis]

low kick/brick break too

[rustic mountain]

i kinda feel like thats the play (double dark, ft and u turn) but idk maybe fairy coverage can be valuable

[molten oasis]

yea

[solid frigate]

At least its easy to build than Greninja and Cinderace in terms of Protean Starters

[molten oasis]

depends on the player probably

[rustic mountain]

i also think band set is actively bad

[molten oasis]

fair

[rustic mountain]

maybe some1 can make it work w/ giving it more longevity w/ protean switching types but generally theres jus a lot of better banded mons that give u more

[molten oasis]

that makes sense yea

[solid frigate]

Sash is probably the more common set rn

[molten oasis]

yea

[rustic mountain]

overgrow sash is really nice

[molten oasis]

meow i think is a viable option

i also think meow is more considerable than heci

[solid frigate]

it is a nice option if you don't want Rilla

[rustic mountain]

idt its gna be doing well in irl tours but i think its serviceable on bo1 ladder

[molten oasis]

like meow feels more placable on more teams overall than heci

i also think heci is mid

[solid frigate]

and are people still riding over the Heci train?

[rustic mountain]

a bit yea

[molten oasis]

yea

[rustic mountain]

i dont think its as bad as i originally thought

[molten oasis]

i think it can work, i dont think its as good as people were saying

[solid frigate]

thankfully i am not riding that train but Heci could be used in someway

Unless Pelipper

[rustic mountain]

nah def not it was overhyped

[molten oasis]

i think sneasler is picking up a lot tho

[rustic mountain]

i think sneaslers solid

[molten oasis]

i think its cool, i like its coverage

poison fighting is good into clef and gambit

which, is so hard to fight

[rustic mountain]

fake out feels like bait onnit

[solid frigate]

Sneasler is the better Heci for me honestly

[solid frigate]

make it offensive lol

Fake out bait moment

[molten oasis]

i think fake out is okay

[rustic mountain]

overall protect feels better from wen ive played vs it

[molten oasis]

i'd say team dependent but i do think 3 attack protect is better

[solid frigate]

Dire Claw,Protect,Close Combat and Coverage move?

[molten oasis]

throat chop

[rustic mountain]

or rock slide

[molten oasis]

typically, oh yea it gets that too

[solid frigate]

why did i think about Sash/White Herb Unburden-

[molten oasis]

sash unburden sucks

like yay i have unburden uh oh sucker punch

poison touch>unburden on sash sets

[rustic mountain]

poison touch seems bad to me

[molten oasis]

your other option is pressure

[rustic mountain]

working against dire claw rng is shit

id way rather paralysis or sleep

[molten oasis]

that messes with dire claw?

oh, nvm

[tiny karma]

Move: Dire Claw

Has a 50% chance to cause the target to either fall asleep, become poisoned, or become paralyzed.

Type

Poison

Category

Physical

Power

80

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[molten oasis]

that stacks?

[rustic mountain]

huh?

[molten oasis]

or does the contact move effect apply first

[rustic mountain]

oh im not sure which takes priority id assume the move

[molten oasis]

i think its fine then

if the move goes first at least

i agree a para/sleep would be much better

[rustic mountain]

but thats if ur clicking dire claw if u click cc and get the poison, any chance at dire claw doing anything into that slot is now gone

[molten oasis]

thats fair

[rustic mountain]

doing anything status wise

[molten oasis]

the other option is unburden for 1 MAYBE 2 turns

or pressure

[rustic mountain]

thats just my take

pressure sucks so obviously not that lmao

[torn parrot]

Would you really rather have pressure than unburden?

[molten oasis]

lol

[rustic mountain]

i think its just unburden

[molten oasis]

unburden if you dont wanna play with poison rng yea

i, dont mind it personally

[rustic mountain]

unless u want that for ur team

if its more slow play dot

but idt that style is that great atm maybe once the format slows down more

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/45c631349fdda361 i mean

[solid frigate]

you sure about that tho

[molten oasis]

idt i get more than 1 turn out of it with unburden usually

[rustic mountain]

fair enough, ur the one playing it

from my pov tho unburden jus seems like default, ur teams kinda weird for it tho

since u dont have anything consistent to proc it

[molten oasis]

yea thats kinda why no unburden

its also just, the 6th for now

thing to threaten gambit, it fit the bill, also gives fo, for dengo

its more for now if anything but it felt pretty solid

(i also dont know what else to put there, i think heci fits poorly)

[patent marsh]

I should use gambit too but my peanut brain wants to spam gholdengo

[molten oasis]

gholdengoat

[patent marsh]

In primarina, rilla incin core

Also brain rotted cause other 2 is the giraffe and Talonflame

[torn parrot]

watching a guy play hydrapple on ladder

hydrapple is like

it's gamblin time baybee

[molten oasis]

was it doing any good?

[torn parrot]

this is the elo i saw him at

it was like pretty cool id say

it was assault vest

[solid frigate]

the team looks legit

[mighty stump]

Wonder if Fickle Beam improves chances with Rainbow effect

[solid frigate]

its basically a Serene Grace Boost

lemme check

[tiny karma]

Ability: Serene Grace

This Pokemon's moves have their secondary effect chance doubled. This effect stacks with the Rainbow effect, except for secondary effects that cause the target to flinch.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[knotty mirage]

Does anyone know what with some people leading blissey with dragapult and use skill swap ?

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 242: Blissey

Type

Normal

Abilities

Natural Cure, Serene Grace, Healer (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

255/10/10/75/135/55

Total

540

Sableye version 4.28.1

[knotty mirage]

Is there like any benefit skill swaping blissey ability with dragapult

[solid frigate]

Serene Grace Dragapult?

or unless Natural Cure to remove Burn or Sleep or Para

[knotty mirage]

Oh i'm not sure i always either taunt the blissey or ohko the dragapult so i never really see what happen

Just wondering because i really want to know what benefit of doing it also so i can be prepared of what to come if they do pull it off

[solid frigate]

i think its the natural Cure one i think

[knotty mirage]

For the dragapult to be immune with status ?

[mighty stump]

I’m aware, I’m just wondering if Fickle Beam’s effect counts

[solid frigate]

it does i think,they only secondary effect it does not matter is Flinch chance so it does

[torn parrot]

i think it does, it worked on dire claw when i tried it

[mighty stump]

Flinch chance is increased though

Well anyways, doubt id be setting up Rainbow Fickle Beam anyways

[solid frigate]

if only gamefreak actually put pledge moves on other pokemon rather than starters

(But tbh nobody that wants to win would try pledge teams)

[mighty stump]

I mean

Marco Fiero

Lmao

[balmy glen]

I was trying pledge at the start of the reg

It’s solid

[solid frigate]

im trying to play that but idk which starter

[bold geode]

@chrome knot McDonald's fucked up my order and you shall pay for their crimes

[chrome knot]

i literally do not care

[pallid hare]

This is why fast food needs to be rethought

[normal cedar]

Are spread moves still weakened in doubles if there’s only 1 target

Or if one of the opposing pokemon protects

[mighty stump]

Full strength if it only hits 1 target

Protect still means it's 0.75x if theres two targets

[bold geode]

Turns you into plushie

[solid frigate]

Emma Caly Ice Marketable Plushie lol

[real prairie]

Any improvements (without changing mons)? Managed to get 5/6 of my favourite pokemon in the team and make them "somewhat" viable https://pokepast.es/c1f6ad1ecdb99401

[real prairie]

Are there any abilities that make spread moves single contact + a buff? that feels like one of those gimicks PKMN usually do

like Sheer Force removes the effects of moves and buffs the damage

[solid frigate]

i don't think there is

[bold geode]

She turned herself into a plushie, funniest shit I've ever seen

[solid frigate]

might as well name my glastrier that

[torn parrot]

I came in and thought that was a rabbit plushie

[torn parrot]

No, swamp is op

It’s so good

[crystal pecan]

Is cinderace viable?

or garados even

[bold geode]

Format?

[real prairie]

Gara is, not sure about Ace

[chrome knot]

yes please put my tr team in swamp :3

[torn parrot]

It’s better tailwind

Except harder to activate

[torn parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-bunny-cute-bunny-dance-cute-bunny-bunny-happy-gif-1216740453927258169

[torn parrot]

Ribombee is gay

[pearl wind]

g-slowking my beloved

[dull ibex]

Weegeecee

[inland hare]

Evening all, what's the general accepted low enough speed stat to make a mon viable for trick room? Base speed of 70 on metagross low enough?

[torn parrot]

It depends on the format, but I would say I anything above 85 is ussually the iffy zone

But the higher the power level the more loosey goosey things get with even 100-110 base speed mons being in trick room

Of course you’d be surprised how slow you can make a relatively fast pokemon

[inland hare]

This is really helpful, thanks so much ☺️

[gentle crag]

_dawsy has given 1 Gen Rep to mayahoppins

[torn parrot]

No problem fam!

I can’t tell if the fast or bulky archaludon scares me more

Nah it’s defintely the bulky one

Nah wait

But the fast one can protect and that sucks…

[bold geode]

@chrome knot how many Gallade running ClAm?

[torn parrot]

I got totally shmizzed on by two choice scarf trick room tera dark night slash gallades last night

I kept thinking

“Surely this isn’t another one…”

It was

[chrome knot]

a you should be/10

[bold geode]

Fuck
Well out of 10, how down bad am I for thinking of Tera Psychic Incin for Gallade

[craggy dagger]

why not just run ghost atp

[torn parrot]

Atp?

[craggy dagger]

at this point

.-.

[torn parrot]

I wonder how tera psychic would go

People should play Tera blast fighting dragapult

On cts

[chrome knot]

huh

i think ur stupid lmao

[bold geode]

Psychic does resist both STAB

Actually I saw Tera Psychic shroom being run by some people in VR tour lmao

And Gallade is like the only reason I can think of why

[craggy dagger]

gallade + psyspam

[chrome knot]

ok gallade forces tera and nowww

https://tenor.com/view/torkoal-fire-turtle-pokemon-pokemon-torkoal-gif-2789849950148042066

[bold geode]

Me who already took away terrain and started prio spamming and throwing Hyper Voices from Prim into the turtle

Feel like I can consistently deal with Psyspam threats except for Gallade, especially once it goes Tera Grass

[molten oasis]

Stupid turtle

[bold geode]

Gallade is like a catch 22
Either you get smacked by Psycho or by Sacred

[spiral ridge]

Gallade main threat when I used them was peli

As I ran grass Tera so a hurricane it was a roll to OHKO

If they got me immediately I was a tad fucked lol

Love gallade though it’s good :)

God I haven’t played in so long I need to

[torn parrot]

You don’t need to

[torn parrot]

Or TERA DARK CHOICE SCARF NIGHT SLASH

Gholdengo isn’t safe

[spiral ridge]

I want to

It’s been a few weeks I think

Rusty and it’s fun so .-.

[bold geode]

Sounds like I have a few incoming VCs and teams to throw at you

[spiral ridge]

I didn’t run psycho I ran something else but I’d prob use it once back

[spiral ridge]

Why do I speak
Lemme get my hw and PT done I beg

[bold geode]

No

I'm working anyways so

[spiral ridge]

Brother in Christ I tore my knee there’s no discussing 😭

[bold geode]

Have you tried not having a tore knee

[spiral ridge]

It’s no longer torn just muscle difference

[bold geode]

So you need gains then

[spiral ridge]

That’s what PT is for

[solid frigate]

God damn it my brother play a video of Someone that is 11 years old and from Hong Kong play TCG and parents approving it and got into worlds

Meanwhile me play VGC and idk how to convince them to make me join EUIC

[bold geode]

Have you tried saying fuck it we ball and just not having muscle deficiency

[spiral ridge]

No

[chrome knot]

me who isnt an idiot and can play around a simple boardstate

[bold geode]

Me who isn't an idiot either and can adjust
Usually can do well into Psyspam, Gallade just a tiny tricky

Anyways
Fuck it I'm gonna try Incin over Kingambit
Might come to bite me in ass, but it's like worth a shot

[chrome knot]

just easier work for ursaluna i fear

idet i need gallade just knowing incin isnt ghost tera is facade food

[bold geode]

Probably will be Ghost Tera 👍

Though Ursaluna doesn't take Glides or Hyper Voices well either without tera so 🤷‍♂️

All depends on board state

Besides I'm not worried about that bear until it's burned anyways

[molten oasis]

Leave my goat in peace

[torn parrot]

you forget we're both gholdengo users

https://tenor.com/view/shake-hand-handshake-agree-deal-nice-to-meet-you-gif-17070147

[molten oasis]

@rustic mountain Dire claw procs first

[knotty mirage]

Damn it i really miss reg G rock slide and flinching is everywhere in this reg

[spiral ridge]

WG if that’s your pet peeve

[tiny karma]

Ability: Adaptability

This Pokemon's moves that match one of its types have a same-type attack bonus (STAB) of 2 instead of 1.5.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[spiral ridge]

Or like cloak

[molten oasis]

Does that apply to Tera and Tera blast?

[spiral ridge]

Realistically it should yes

Have not tested to know however

[molten oasis]

The calculator will know

[torn parrot]

drago the team looks really strong

[molten oasis]

Yes it does

[spiral ridge]

Which?

[knotty mirage]

Wide guard is really wonky to use in this reg and covert can only be equiped by one mon

[molten oasis]

The one i have?

[torn parrot]

ye i saw a game

[molten oasis]

The one where I wrecked the ttar? lol

[torn parrot]

where you one shot palafin with make it rain lol

[spiral ridge]

Gallade is what I use. Does good

[molten oasis]

That was a crit but it didn’t matter lol

Amoonguss was ready in the back

[spiral ridge]

Where’s the poke paste I’m curious

Or was one not put here

[knotty mirage]

I mean i can give pelipper wide guard but it compete slot with tailwind and protect

[spiral ridge]

What rock slider are you worrying about?

Like which mons do you see it use it most

[knotty mirage]

In my experience ussualy it's on garchomp tyranitar and sneasler

Commonly on garchomp tho

[molten oasis]

And ik my dengo doesn’t die to Tera water jet punch, assuming that’s what he was going for

I did try to wisp a sleeping target we aren’t gonna talk about that lol

I’m training that team ingame rn

[torn parrot]

the fake out seems really useful

[molten oasis]

Fake out’s really useful

[knotty mirage]

Understandable you sometimes forget something like that when in middle of match

[molten oasis]

I’m honestly not really clicking protect lol

[spiral ridge]

Two of those have a fighting weakness I believe so you can put something up on that front.

[molten oasis]

I think I’m gonna go throw chop tbh

[knotty mirage]

I can't count how many time i forgot that flying type can be fake outed on psyhic terrain

[spiral ridge]

Forgot about that til you said it 😭

[molten oasis]

Levitate mons too

(Hydrei)

[knotty mirage]

That's like the common reason i immediately lose my peli to psyspam

[molten oasis]

[torn parrot]

they put fake out on psyspam?

[knotty mirage]

Ussualy there some people who use indeedee armarouge but the rest is something like sandstorm and some fake out mon too

[torn parrot]

i see

[knotty mirage]

Or there even some maniac who just straight up giving indeedee fake out

It's closed team sheet what do you expect

[torn parrot]

yes

like

3 or 4 times in my lifetime

iv been faked out by an indeedee

[little plank]

@solid frigate https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2198148381 back to my old way lmao

[torn parrot]

Ayyy

The boys are back

https://tenor.com/view/diosa-bocchi-gif-24958399

[chrome knot]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-sleepy-gooba-owa-owaowa-gif-2311503198775714764

[torn parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/rabbit-bunny-fluffy-throw-gif-10706121

[foggy lodge]

i got a 0 speed Calyrex but the Glastrier is 31 waaaa

[chrome knot]

why does that matter

cir takes stat of calyrex

[foggy lodge]

yeah but in case of using Glastrier alone

[chrome knot]

why would you do this

[foggy lodge]

idk im paranoic

[torn parrot]

You’ll drive yourself crazy

[foggy lodge]

Meh ill keep the Calyrex if i need a 0 speed Glastrier ill start another account

[torn parrot]

Wait

So you don’t actually need to hunt for a 0 speed goastrier at all?

The only thing that matters is Rex?

[chrome knot]

mhm

[foggy lodge]

Yes

[torn parrot]

I feel silly for trying to get a low attack specter

[chrome knot]

dingus girl

[torn parrot]

Ooga booga dingus

[chrome knot]

yah big dingus girl, you

[bold geode]

Unga bunga moment

[fallow mesa]

What do you guys think of tailwind windbreaker shiftry for doubles

[little plank]

Think you would have a better option going with bramble

Brambleghast has higher speed and attack and is ghost so can't be faked out

[balmy glen]

i mean some people have used both I think both are viable

u can actually be more consistent since the accuracy of moves are better on shiftry as well and u have ur own fake out lol

[polar nest]

So I wanna play psyspam, but i dont wanna use trick room, i have my expanding force user picked out, but i dont know what else is good on non tr psyspam

[cyan smelt]

Sneasler

[polar nest]

alr

i also know gallade is good

[cyan smelt]

Yes gallade is solid

You could probably also go ursaluna bm

[polar nest]

ok

then maybe amoonguss?

[torn parrot]

You could play weakness policy armarouge ((:

[cyan smelt]

Wp weak armour

U turn annihilape

[polar nest]

not really an armorouge fan, tried him

[cyan smelt]

Have you tried delphox?

[polar nest]

yea, gtg

i like espathra

for eforce

[solid frigate]

sad but eh

[rustic mountain]

cool

[rustic mountain]

[tropic robin]

Their HAs should’ve been Sharpness and Mega Launcher, smh

[chrome knot]

uh no ?

[balmy glen]

heck no lul

[torn parrot]

Yes and then make expanding force in gen 9 be changed to a pulse move

[balmy glen]

💀

[dull ibex]

Weegeecee

I still want to make fast arma work

[torn parrot]

It has always worked

[dull ibex]

meh?

feels better on slow tr teams

[little plank]

I was looking forward to this regulation but honestly I'm not a fan lol I am a setup player and every single team running haze is obnoxious.

[solid frigate]

tell me about it

[rustic mountain]

[mighty stump]

This whole regulation feels goofy

[wispy spade]

Weak armor weakness policy with beat up support?

[dull ibex]

Hi tofu how's it going

[dull ibex]

It's okay ig

[wispy spade]

It's more than okay

It's decent!

[dull ibex]

Same thing

[wispy spade]

No, decent is slightly better

[dull ibex]

If you say so yeah ig

[wispy spade]

[dull ibex]

Idk weakness policy could be funny

[solid frigate]

unless Metagross but like thats also Clunky

[mighty stump]

I'm tired and taking a break

Ace Attorney has been fun

[dull ibex]

hmmm okay fair

[mighty stump]

CHORES

RESPONSIBILITIES

[dull ibex]

weegeecee has been interesting

we need to vc again at some point lmao

you can watch me be stuck at sub-1200

[molten oasis]

goated game franchise

[wispy spade]

Meow

[real prairie]

a pokemon the anime made me love, VGC made me hate 😭

[pastel blade]

Why do people run clefable over clefairy?

[balmy glen]

They have different abilities, clefable and clefairy are both good in their own ways. Clefairy is a friend guard user that is typically better with certain setup mons. However, in this meta in early regulation h Clefable is found to be better due to the amount of setup plus Dondozos. Clefable has unaware to ignore it and even skill swap which you can pass off to a teammate so they can ignore the opposing setup mon

[silk stream]

If mimikyu were to use curse on a dondozo or achuladon. Would they 100% die in 4 turns (if they dont heal)? or does the curse dmg only last a set amount of turns?

[mighty stump]

Curse is indefinite, until they switch.

[silk stream]

good to know, thank you

[gentle crag]

mas.n has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu

[real prairie]

curse only takes 4 turns to kill?

[tiny karma]

Move: Curse

If the user is not a Ghost type, lowers the user's Speed by 1 stage and raises the user's Attack and Defense by 1 stage. If the user is a Ghost type, the user loses 1/2 of its maximum HP, rounded down and even if it would cause fainting, in exchange for the target losing 1/4 of its maximum HP, rounded down, at the end of each turn while it is active. If the target uses Baton Pass, the replacement will continue to be affected. Fails if there is no target or if the target is already affected.

Type

Ghost

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Authentic

Bypasses substitute.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[silk stream]

does 25% each turn

so id assume so, unless the rounding messes things up and makes it a 5 turn

[chrome knot]

sometimes yes

torkoal @ 252hp has 177 which is 44.25 so rounded down is 44 so you live @ 1hp after 4 turns

[silk stream]

hopefully id be able to do that 1hp of dmg tho haha

[bold geode]

Fuck your chores

[chrome knot]

@bold geode what if we were a 2 person horse for halloween LOL

[bold geode]

Fuck it

Or we can collect more people and be a dragon

[chrome knot]

LMAO

[molten oasis]

Tf

[bold geode]

Oh nothing
Just me and Emma planning silly costumes

[torn parrot]

Wait

That’s genius

New dozo fucking discovered

[pseudo mortar]

What kind of build do I need (if you what I mean) like I got max stats and choice specs if there's anything left

[chrome knot]

what

[random pecan]

[bold geode]

For Miraidon?

[pseudo mortar]

Yep

[bold geode]

Are you looking at this for VGC (doubles) or? Cuz if so it's not legal rn

[random pecan]

Regulation H

[pseudo mortar]

No I'm just going to play on anything goes

For testing

[bold geode]

Oh I'm not sure since that's a singles format
It'd probably be fine to use Specs and max max modest with Fairy Tera
Drift/Volt Switch/Draco/Dazzling Gleam maybe

Closest I can give ya

[pseudo mortar]

Aight then

[random pecan]

also very popular with whims support

Actually, not discharge?

[bold geode]

Nah

[torn parrot]

why didnt you say miraidon

[pseudo mortar]

Dude.

[torn parrot]

oh yeah

fuk you tho

[bold geode]

[craggy dagger]

[crystal pecan]

Can anyone help me build a competitive team?

I need help

[chrome knot]

novvaaaaaaaa

[craggy dagger]

hi

[chrome knot]

i miss youuuuuu :(

[craggy dagger]

sorry i’ve been gone so much

[torn parrot]

What yall think about jolly rillaboom?

I bet your all sick and tired of being outspeed by pelipers

Oh what the fuck

It’s highest usage???

[bold geode]

Hai bestie

[molten oasis]

No lol

We have grassy glide

And those usually aren’t accurate to what people normally use

[torn parrot]

that’s true

I think the top usage is just wants the masses use

[molten oasis]

Yea

[torn parrot]

But it doesn’t mean it’s correct

[molten oasis]

Yea

Today I’m hoping to get marked shiny basculegion

And maybe a few runs for alpha harc

[bold geode]

I got like 3 things that can outspeed it easily and a monkey with Glide, we ballin

[molten oasis]

then the remaining issue is getting shiny marked hydrei

[craggy dagger]

hii

[molten oasis]

lol

[molten oasis]

Haven’t seen you much

[chrome knot]

https://tenor.com/view/citrus-harumi-yuzu-hug-anime-gif-18171387

[craggy dagger]

uni is annoying
just needed to have some clear head to get prepped

[craggy dagger]

[molten oasis]

I agree lol

College/uni sucks

[craggy dagger]

first year so it’s even weirder

[chrome knot]

[molten oasis]

Im surprised it wasn’t the kissing one

[chrome knot]

@craggy dagger would you pet her

[craggy dagger]

idk why she does that

[timber falcon]

just one more battle

then i can consider this rain team succesful

[molten oasis]

Idk either

[chrome knot]

you started it

[molten oasis]

She did?

[craggy dagger]

i didnt?

[chrome knot]

yes

actually you started biting me first

[molten oasis]

oh, the biting

[craggy dagger]

biting isn’t kissing

[timber falcon]

and ofc it was the team damn MU i still hadnt properly accounted for

[molten oasis]

Which mu

[timber falcon]

liligant torkoal

but more complicated

[molten oasis]

You didn’t consider lilikoal?

[timber falcon]

no no that wasnt the problem tbh

its the glimmora

with liligant torkaol

[molten oasis]

Oh they had a glimmora lol

That’s annoying I won’t lie

[timber falcon]

so basc couldnt even clean up cause sun

then ofc liligant

[chrome knot]

it turned from biting to kissing

[molten oasis]

You turned it into kissing

[chrome knot]

i did not!!!

[molten oasis]

Consider the following: Teal Mask is a year old in 3 days

[craggy dagger]

Consider the Following:
in exactly 2 months and 5 days, swsh will be 5 years old

[dapper crag]

What would be the best fast taunt user? Non prankster?

[craggy dagger]

talon i guess?

[dapper crag]

Really? Wow

Can’t arcanine learn it?

[molten oasis]

I’m old lol

[dense latch]

finally hit top 500

[dense latch]

i believe excluding dragapult talonflame is the fastest non-boosted mon in the format

[craggy dagger]

you’re only a year older than me no?
if not months rather than a year

[molten oasis]

Still

I feel old, my dog was released almost 5 years ago

Oh dude sun and moon is like 8ish years old

[dense latch]

i still can’t get over the fact that x and y are over a decade old

[dapper crag]

Didn’t think about dragapult thank you!

[gentle crag]

layanol has given 1 Gen Rep to eriksp

[dense latch]

dragapult is the fastest in the format in general, it doesn’t get taunt

talonflame is your best option imo

[bold geode]

Consider the following: every 60 seconds in Africa a minute passes

[molten oasis]

Consider the following: every 60 minutes in England an hour passes

[bold geode]

I did consider it actually

But did you consider that every 24 hours in China a day passes

[molten oasis]

I see, but did you consider that every 365 days a year passes in Japan

[bold geode]

That's news to me, but did you consider that every 10 years in Czechoslovakia, a decade passes?

[wispy spade]

And here i thought a year in japan was 365.24 days long

[forest arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/tyranitar-pokemon-anime-gif-23083644

[molten oasis]

That’s awesome, but did you know every 100 years in Germany is a century

[dull ibex]

consider the following: SHUT UP BIC

[bold geode]

Did you know I did your mom Shrek edition

[dull ibex]

did yall hear about sony building their terrible reputation more

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/out-disappear-bye-vanished-gif-4932063

[wispy spade]

What's a sony?

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-4095597578532971838

[molten oasis]

I did

[solid frigate]

lol

[dull ibex]

its uh embarassing to say the least

810 dollars for a full experience with no games

[torn parrot]

Holy fucking shit

Porydex is back…

[patent marsh]

REAL

[torn parrot]

PORYDEX IS BACK

[hot lynx]

guys i need help i need to build a reg h team like rn so i can participate in online tournaments im thinking about serperior for main dmg dealer

[torn parrot]

PORYDEX IS LITERALLY BACK

[hot lynx]

whats that

[torn parrot]

It’s a website that records competitive history usage stats

All the way back to 2014

And they now caught up to 2024

[hot lynx]

nice

[forest arrow]

Oh crap, good shout

[polar nest]

what should i add? (I dont like using tr) https://pokepast.es/f14f6e1bbd97009e

[dense latch]

change gallade's set, use clear amulet over sitrus and find a third attacking move (leaf blade, night slash) instead of heal pulse

you definitely need something for gholdengo, imo armarouge is a better pokemon and fit than espathra

[polar nest]

ok

[dull ibex]

august

[whole ibex]

Anyone got a Miracle Seed Rilla Spread?

[dull ibex]

max max

if you are going offensive why not

[torn parrot]

Ye caught up

So far

[dull ibex]

this website is so old

[rustic mountain]

no thats hisuan electrode

[dull ibex]

dragapult is the fastest meta relevant threat

[forest arrow]

foul play

[rustic mountain]

wasnt specified originally

u leave that window for me to troll

[dull ibex]

sorry yeah no, I meant thats what people usually say

[rustic mountain]

haha yea for sure

[whole ibex]

Oh really?

[dull ibex]

there are a couple of mons faster then pult

[dull ibex]

why not?

[rustic mountain]

it is the fastest relevant meta mon

h electrode sucks

[dull ibex]

both electrodes are faster btw

[rustic mountain]

hisuan electrode is cooler tho

[dull ibex]

if we include every mon

deoxyse speed, both electrodes, I think shadow rider

also eleki

[rustic mountain]

good thing most arent even legal

[dull ibex]

dragapult is insanely though

and its got okay bulk

[rustic mountain]

its a good mon

[dull ibex]

and phenomenal attack

I adore pult

perfect mon imo

[rustic mountain]

i was using it on my palance team tho its been a cppl weeks so that team prolly isnt as strong now

[dull ibex]

great stats, good movepool, good design, usuallly relevant

I don't think theres a single regulation pult is BAD

[rustic mountain]

i wouldnt say usually, it kinda requires specific parameters to be effective

[dull ibex]

but this reg I have a legit niche for it

[dull ibex]

it usually has a niche

I dont know if its been outright bad or unusable this gen

[rustic mountain]

what was the niche in reg d-g

[dull ibex]

uh tbh I dont remember

[rustic mountain]

i think pao jus generally had better partners after reg c

[dull ibex]

you get my point

[rustic mountain]

which was the main pult enabler

[dull ibex]

I wouldn't call it good

in d-g but I wouldn't call it bad either

[rustic mountain]

not really haha i think theres quite a few formats in both swsh and sv it was not good objectively

[dull ibex]

I do think its very good rn though

[rustic mountain]

doesnt mean its a bad mon but it wasnt good into those metas

[rustic mountain]

i agree w/ that

[dull ibex]

it fits on clef balance nicely

[rustic mountain]

i think its 3rd or 4th best psuedo choice atm

arch and ttar def better and dnite u can make a case for

[dull ibex]

I think I could have made it work in g

[forest arrow]

banded dragon outrage is a nuke button

[dull ibex]

but I do think I would handicapping myself lmao

[rustic mountain]

ew outrage dpult

[dull ibex]

I try to fit pult on a team every reg tbh

[forest arrow]

Mdb is running it

[rustic mountain]

fr?

[dull ibex]

its my second favorite mon in general and its actually usable in comp

the first one is samurott

which is decidedly not usuable to me

[rustic mountain]

that mon is not good yea

[next stump]

banded outrage is nice for psyspam if indeedee isn’t fairy

[dull ibex]

are new popular variants of clef balance out yet?

[rustic mountain]

it seems like itd b good but it jus doesnt do enough damage

[dull ibex]

pult KO's most things outrage hits tbh

[forest arrow]

Im using corv atm

[dull ibex]

I want to try more variants

but I dont have anything to cover for

[forest arrow]

walls the lunas

[solid frigate]

IDBP Corv again?

[rustic mountain]

i think in general outrage is jus tricky. if u got the right position for it yea sure

[forest arrow]

nah lol

[solid frigate]

or just play Open Team Sheets

Which at least you know the tera

[forest arrow]

We tried that at the beginning of the reg but i think we found something a bit better

[rustic mountain]

u gta have great macro to know wen the right time to click it is otherwise locking urself into that can very much work against u. i dont love taking away that flexibility

even w/ ots cuz they know u have outrage

[solid frigate]

thats why i don't like that move

[rustic mountain]

its exploitable

[forest arrow]

I think monke is running it

[solid frigate]

Wait Monke's running Banned Pult Outrage?

[dull ibex]

outrage?

[forest arrow]

Yeah

[dull ibex]

im also running banded outrage pult

[rustic mountain]

mdb is jus very good idk bout outrage being the choice for most other players

[forest arrow]

electabuzz redirection and fo support helps but youre not wrong

[rustic mountain]

yea thats fair

[dull ibex]

I wanted to use pult and it helps my sun match up by nuking torkoal

[rustic mountain]

might just be my own personal gripes w/ outrage, its jus too inconsistent and felt like bait most times cuz u think itll help then u get exploited

[forest arrow]

Currently running buzz myself, its really so good

[rustic mountain]

again tho, if u understand the right times to click it, its prolly a solid option to have

[forest arrow]

and yeah sometimes you wanna ko something and it hits the partner and youre there just like "damn"

[dull ibex]

this is a big probelm for me

but uh pult is goated so im sticking to it

[forest arrow]

nah we love pult around here haha

[dull ibex]

and my other option is sucker punch which is meh

[forest arrow]

I believe Ddarts, Phantom force, outrage uturn

[rustic mountain]

i personally think u turn/tera blast/darts and phantom force is the move

[dull ibex]

tera blast and force?

[rustic mountain]

yes

[dull ibex]

why?

[rustic mountain]

cuz sometimes i dont wanna tera to do ghost damage?

[forest arrow]

so you have STAB without needing to tera

[rustic mountain]

and it creates nice pins breaking protect

[dull ibex]

I would just go one or the other personally

[balmy glen]

Tera dragon gaming

[forest arrow]

keanu knows

[dull ibex]

also my pult is shiny 🙂

[rustic mountain]

i have like

3 shiny pults

[dull ibex]

It was the first mon I actively hunted

https://pokepast.es/98839af6eb5d9152 Fire names if I do say so myself

[rustic mountain]

figure out the team for baltimore yet?

[forest arrow]

is that this weekend?

[rustic mountain]

also saw u get shout out by mdb on twitter, hes like locals in socal are not free

[forest arrow]

he got top 4 i believe

[rustic mountain]

idk but its soon

[forest arrow]

Im trying Aaron Broks corv/volc team

[rustic mountain]

its not the grand challenge weekend so either this weekend or last weekend of the month

[forest arrow]

ahh okay ive been impatient lol ready to watch some reg h

[rustic mountain]

i remember building a bulu team w/ him in series 10 for swsh, cool to see him do so well at irl tours now

[forest arrow]

yeah he got 2nd, I really like his team, I was using corv tar at the beginning so it immediately caught my eye

[balmy glen]

I mean yeah we’re homies

Both recent vgc players and come from smogon so we hit it off immediately when we met

[rustic mountain]

yea hes usually pretty creative. remember 1 interview he said his sauce is usually 5 good mons + 1 weirder pick

[rustic mountain]

ahh gotcha

[forest arrow]

I thin hecid is the weird pick haha

I wish i could ask about his spreads he has like 204 invest on hecid HP

[balmy glen]

Im pretty much ready for Baltimore I did no practice matches but after the local I’ll be fine

[rustic mountain]

jus fuck it we ball attitude

[balmy glen]

MDB was sweating so hard facing me but I made new readjustments and I’m fine to go

[rustic mountain]

can always try dming him, worst is he jus doesnt answer

[balmy glen]

lol we had a crazy set

[forest arrow]

on twitter?

[rustic mountain]

yea

[balmy glen]

he prob won’t respond seeing how he has a tournament ngl

[forest arrow]

can i have his handle XD

[balmy glen]

A lot of us SoCal peeps do share after tours tho

[rustic mountain]

yea fair enough

[forest arrow]

youre right tbh i wouldnt wanna be bombarded tbh

[rustic mountain]

honestly just play the team

spreads will make more sense as u get experience

[molten oasis]

What is SoCal?

[rustic mountain]

and if they dont, change em

[forest arrow]

Yeah i think the spreads we have rn are solid

[balmy glen]

Southern California

[molten oasis]

ok

[balmy glen]

We’re a really stacked area in the US

[rustic mountain]

very

cali in general

[balmy glen]

I mean

It kind of bothers me when people say Tristate demolishes us

Seeing how Tristate is a group of all of them and SoCal is just a part of Cali lol

[rustic mountain]

tristates strong but demolishes? lol

[molten oasis]

Very cool

[balmy glen]

Now if we say Cali

and add on like Emilio Forbes

[rustic mountain]

yea it is a bit silly prolly jus cuz they r a bit smaller they get grouped in

i still think even grouped together cali as a whole as pretty comparable

[balmy glen]

but yeah Tristate, SoCal, and some other places are prob hardest US locals

After this worlds prob some of the hardest locals worldwide atp

[rustic mountain]

honestly yea

[forest arrow]

thats wild

[rustic mountain]

ur playing vs worlds top cut peeps and regional champs like every other round

i wonder if gavin can play again

[balmy glen]

He will in November

Then we’re even more stacked lol

[rustic mountain]

yep haha

[balmy glen]

I felt so bad for this one dude. He was like “you guys really have me facing Keanu after his top 32 showing?” Then he faces Grant next round or 2 rounds later

It was his first local btw lol

[rustic mountain]

jfc lmfao

mans had to run thru the gauntlet

[balmy glen]

He ruined my res sad

[rustic mountain]

socal locals genuinely better practice then regionals?

[balmy glen]

Maybe

[rustic mountain]

im half kidding but honestly the quality of player ur facing more consistently it might be haha

[balmy glen]

Lowkey like some of our teams are all over the place so it’s kind of more wack compared to regionals

I like to call it the fakest real practice

[rustic mountain]

ahhh ok

u kinda get the flow down and less the actual mu practice

[balmy glen]

But yeah it’s kind of crazy how I could just look at my locals and be like

“Damn any one of us top half could prob just take a regional rn”

[rustic mountain]

yea

rileys cali too right?

[balmy glen]

Well he used to live here. He visits his family and us from time to time obviously like he comes to our locals every other month or so

[rustic mountain]

got it

[balmy glen]

But ye if we count Riley ig that’s another

[rustic mountain]

riley if counted idk like cali might just have it rn

id have to see tri state overall but idk i think the top end of cali jus has it

[rustic mountain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-f8czOTwPY&t=4807s

pretty solid recap if anyones interested

@molten oasis ur fav was mentioned around the hour 19 mark lol

[solid frigate]

only in Baltimore

[molten oasis]

A9?

[rustic mountain]

isnt that ur fav?

[molten oasis]

Well, yea

[dull ibex]

rilla pult is a duo?

[solid frigate]

I'm gonna just upload Only in Baltimore Meme in the VC when Baltimore Regionals is here

[rustic mountain]

[rustic mountain]

idk bout a duo but rilla can be on a number of teams rn

[solid frigate]

[solid frigate]

its literally slappable unless you are playing Psyspam

[foggy lodge]

when is baltimore

Saturday?

[solid frigate]

Am i bout to play Splatoon 3 Grand Splatfest while also watching Baltimore Regionals-

[solid frigate]

idk

[rustic mountain]

u know u can just google baltimore regionals right

[solid frigate]

yeah i forgor

[rustic mountain]

not even directed at u specifically

jus in general for the ppl asking

im p sure its this weekend but idc enough to look it up myself haha

cuz its not the following weekend cuz thats the gc

and i dont remember it being at the end of the month

[solid frigate]

idk lemme check

[foggy lodge]

its the saturday

[solid frigate]

13/9-15/9

[rustic mountain]

[foggy lodge]

14-9 for me

[rustic mountain]

9/14 for me

[solid frigate]

i see RK9 Labs idk why its different

[rustic mountain]

the right way to order dates

murica

[solid frigate]

moment

[foggy lodge]

im accostumed to put the day and then the month

[rustic mountain]

i think most of the world is

jus weird for me personally im the other way

[solid frigate]

yeah fair

[solid frigate]

Koraidon funni

[rustic mountain]

1700s

[solid frigate]

noice

[rustic mountain]

idk if this team can break 1800 but ill prolly give it a shot

[torn parrot]

HELL YEAH

FUCK YES GO FOR IT

[torn parrot]

YOU CAN DO IT

[rustic mountain]

yea prolly 2mw

haha ty

idk if the team is strong enough but maybe if i play it well enough

[solid frigate]

i'm still stuck at 1200-1300 What the fu am i missin-

[rustic mountain]

werent u building like

greninja

[solid frigate]

abandoned it

[rustic mountain]

wat r u usin atm

[solid frigate]

i thought i showed the Milotic Pult Team with PeliArcha-

[rustic mountain]

dude i see a lot of teams here haha gna have to excuse me not remembering exactly wat everyones using

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/b4ad9c9ea86e8360

[rustic mountain]

yea the milotic pult should jus be basculegion i remember now

[solid frigate]

yeah i was like Coil Hypnosis go brr but why i forgot Amogus

[rustic mountain]

issue w/ milo is its too passive, takes too long to ramp up and still might not do enough once it does

i did jus play someone in the high 1700s running it tho but it was a much different team

[solid frigate]

i might switch to Either Lilligant for Sun Bait
Or Amoonguss for General stuff

nothing goes wrong with Amoonguss

[rustic mountain]

u have rilla why r u adding grass types?

[solid frigate]

idk i kinda want Dozo Anwser but then again

[molten oasis]

What y’all talking about

[solid frigate]

My Mid Team

[molten oasis]

Y is it mid

[rustic mountain]

jus some weird picks

not even like bad mons but for team placement

[solid frigate]

just look at it ;-;

[rustic mountain]

basculegion-arch-peli-rilla is a good core

nd now u have 2 slots to mess w/ for mus and what not

[solid frigate]

I think Remove Milo and Maybe Maus

[rustic mountain]

u can potentially keep maus there i jus dont see it there. another redirector could be cool like electabuzz or clefable

[solid frigate]

I'll think of Something

I'll swap Maus with Electabuzz (Vital Spirit)

[rustic mountain]

but yea choosing good mons that actually amplify ur team not even necessarily thru sheer synergy will net u more wins consistently cuz u have better tools at ur disposal. that and ofc understanding how to utilize those mons effectively

[solid frigate]

true

[rustic mountain]

its cool to try and use nicher picks but they have to make sense

and generally they are supporting ur team whether enabling the strong/good mons or patching a mu u otherwise have a hard time into

[solid frigate]

i think i understand it in Reg G but not in Reg H cuz damn i can't play Niche in Reg H

[viral spindle]

Someone say their favorite pokemon to use competitively

[molten oasis]

gtk cough

[solid frigate]

only if you know and understand the Meta

[rustic mountain]

well i think its relative right cause what are the parameters for what making niche work for you in reg g? some might argue if its not past a certain point it didnt actually work cause u can do a decent amount of cheese to get to like mid ladder u know

doesnt mean it was actually a good niche pick

[solid frigate]

i think Drago Knows my Miraidon Team during that time but eh Its Reg H now so maybe later

[foggy lodge]

Gliscor

[viral spindle]

I’m just trying to break Pokemon by giving them abilities they shouldn’t have and using them competitively

[molten oasis]

why would i know?

[foggy lodge]

And for some reason japanese players are playing Gliscor

[molten oasis]

zacian

[wispy spade]

[molten oasis]

wrong fucking emoji

[viral spindle]

Zacian has killed me 1 too many times

[molten oasis]

gholdengo

[solid frigate]

cuz you literally said as long as no trick room this Team can deal with Caly Ice

The Iron Crown Team-

[molten oasis]

i dont remember that

i still dont really remember

[solid frigate]

I'll just show the OTS

[rustic mountain]

poison has an interesting place rn in the meta. stuff like glimm and sneasler can hit a lot of common stuff in the format for se damage. even jus for prim/rilla its good

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/afb24de8b8381cb2

[molten oasis]

sneasler is like, very real rn

[rustic mountain]

idt gliscor is that pick but wat do i know. japanese players usually are cooking

[viral spindle]

Gliscor it is

[molten oasis]

hearth go br

[solid frigate]

literally half of the team are gonna nuke Caly Ice

[molten oasis]

dude

the knowledge from reg g was flushed out when reg h started

[rustic mountain]

lol

[molten oasis]

i wasn't gonna remember what you had

[solid frigate]

I kinda still have remaining stuff from Reg G in my brain lol

[molten oasis]

all i know is im still playing zacian in reg g

2

for now i enjoy dengo things

[torn parrot]

Weezing

[rustic mountain]

this is jus the worlds winning 6 w/ crown over urshi

[molten oasis]

wait it totally is lmao

[solid frigate]

Yeah thats why

[torn parrot]

Jk it’s ribombee

[rustic mountain]

yea its a great core

[torn parrot]

No but is it weezing…

[rustic mountain]

but urshi > crown haha

[solid frigate]

thats why its so good for me lol

[rustic mountain]

so start using another great core lol u have the 4 i mentioned before and presumably electabuzz. jus figure out a 6th and see how it feels

[foggy lodge]

uh @molten oasis https://youtu.be/ORTpKBr--N8?si=S3oNsMvOUDvyehWq i found this video and is interesting

[rustic mountain]

wheres the weezing team

[molten oasis]

i'll watch when i care about reg g but thats cool

[solid frigate]

i'm gonna use Incin for base while see if there's anything wrong

[molten oasis]

admittedly, i did not really find my footing drago zac

[rustic mountain]

id go that or gambit

[torn parrot]

I played weezing in reg G and it made me feel so in control I loved it

But question is

Do I choose logic vs style

[molten oasis]

i always liked rain zacian with shifu

and lando

[solid frigate]

i'm not sure with Double Steel but i can try

[rustic mountain]

style

[torn parrot]

Then ribombee is my favorite competitive pokemon

[foggy lodge]

i also looked at zacian before reg G ended and i thought about Ogerpon teal mask with Urshifu Pelipper Lando

[torn parrot]

🐝

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/563711a14f4e5811

[torn parrot]

Tinkaton got dethroned

[solid frigate]

it used to be Archaludon for me but Reg H happened

[rustic mountain]

no p shot?

also tera blast over psychic fangs, thank me later

[solid frigate]

i have something in mind

[rustic mountain]

tera fire on peli seems bad too

[solid frigate]

oh wait yeah my team did not really need to be afraid of Screens

[rustic mountain]

im assuming u didnt do tera type for incin yet cuz it says fire and electabuzz id say tera water seems like the go to

[solid frigate]

yeah i might make Incin Tera Water or Ghost

but Water Sounds better in this Reg

[rustic mountain]

id say both are fair

[solid frigate]

and i don't really have to be afraid of Grass either cuz i have the Birb

[rustic mountain]

peli should be like stellar or flying tera imo. even grass if u want more defensive benefits

[solid frigate]

wait do you still have Stellar Boost when Weather Ball changes type

[rustic mountain]

as long as u didnt use it after teraing

[solid frigate]

alr

[molten oasis]

meh

shifu and lando are enough anti incin imo

[solid frigate]

damn all my Tera Type are all FWG lol

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/352d6124a61e6322 this is what i ended reg g with

[solid frigate]

Shifu alone can already do that

[rustic mountain]

[solid frigate]

[molten oasis]

they're good tera's

[rustic mountain]

most mons rn want defensive teras

[solid frigate]

ik they are good but i just realised that all my mons have FWG now

[molten oasis]

i have mostly defensive tera's except sneasler