competitive_discussion

[amber lynx]

Helps with choice specs draco as well

[mighty stump]

I'm not saying Haze is pointless, I'm saying it's less likely to be clicked as far as consistent disruption goes.

[amber lynx]

Yeah that makes total sense

I really appreciate the run down. I’m kind new to all this still

[mighty stump]

If you really want to use Politoed i'd probably try a Perish Trap version rather than standard Rain

That's the only thing Pelipper doesn't have over Poli

[amber lynx]

Ah I’ve heard of that politaod set. I’ll look into it

[old tulip]

Thank you boss!

[gentle crag]

schiller. has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu

[zinc totem]

Why people run 220 ev or max speed archas? Are they that fed up of max speed pelippers 🤣

[chrome knot]

@mighty stump

cup today, nervous like always

[tranquil kraken]

gl

[knotty mirage]

Is this good enough for empoleon wanting to use this on my rain team for intimidate check
Empoleon @ Leftover
Ability: Competitive
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spa / 4 Spe
Modest Nature

• Flash cannon
• Hydro pump
• Vacuum wave
• Protect

[ornate forge]

wait empoleon has competitive?

[polar nest]

i dont really know how to build psyspam, but wanted to try it. I gave my go at building the team and heres what I got, feedback and help pls! https://pokepast.es/2f223d1f135c55d3

[bold geode]

Yeah

[ornate forge]

i think they changed it this generation it definitely used to have defiant

[knotty mirage]

Back then yeah it is defiant but i guess they finally realized that empoleon have better special attack stat that's why they changed it too competitive

[bold geode]

They did change it this gen yes

[chrome knot]

not enough trick room clickers, only 1 psychic type attacker, giving this one a 4/10

maybe a 3 bc espathra actually sux lmao

[polar nest]

ok ill make changes

idk how to build indeedee

[polar nest]

oops

i was tryna do like speed boost stored power

but i didnt know if that really worked i just winged it

[fleet topaz]

the break down of every pokemon the won a major event this past 2024 season. Flutter Mane and Urshifu RS tied for the most at 24 wins.

Rillaboom 19, Inciniroar and Thunderus IF 18, Ogrepon Water 17, Amoongus 11

[next stump]

just so we can all see it here

[fleet topaz]

Ya wouldnt let me post thanks

[polar nest]

https://pokepast.es/85296405e653934b okay i think its not bad now

[whole ibex]

Hi is Brambleghast immune to sand chip?

[chrome knot]

?

[whole ibex]

With Wind Rider

[karmic temple]

No

[whole ibex]

Then why is Brambleghast being paired with Ttar and the gang when it has focus sash.

[bold geode]

@mighty stump Wolfe ran AV Ape

[spiral ridge]

yeah im watching this rn

just woke up and saw it like "wtf"

hes going typh strats okayy

[chrome knot]

scotty help

[spiral ridge]

and he just said his next vid is about so thats cool

[chrome knot]

s t r e s s e d

[spiral ridge]

wassup love?
awe

[chrome knot]

local soon

[spiral ridge]

ohh
youre gonna do great

[chrome knot]

stressing

[spiral ridge]

ofc itll be

but youre good

you got this

how soon?

[chrome knot]

1pm

[spiral ridge]

OH

will it be streamed ill cheer :3

[chrome knot]

nooo

is just a local

[tranquil kraken]

strap a gopro on your head and stream it

[spiral ridge]

yeah didnt know if someone would do an unofficial one to just show it

exactly like ili said 😭

[tranquil kraken]

assert dominance

[spiral ridge]

ili its so good btw i just finished the toffee

FUCK A BERRY FELL ON MY PHONE

[tranquil kraken]

[spiral ridge]

licked my phone without a second thought

[tranquil kraken]

based

[spiral ridge]

[bold geode]

You would've done it without the berry

[spiral ridge]

when RR abs are on my scren yes

[bold geode]

Abs?

[spiral ridge]

yes(?)

https://tenor.com/view/rfcdscd-ryan-reynolds-gif-18397620

[chrome knot]

me when uhh uhhhhhh uh uhhhh me whennnn

[spiral ridge]

i know who youre referring to dw about it

[chrome knot]

yes my brain would actually have a malfunction

[whole ibex]

Hi I’m torn between safety goggles or Mirror Herb for Tauros.

https://pokepast.es/fbcb6d24f5c60dd8

[spiral ridge]

i believe you

i-

wolfe just said he was confused by how wrapping a towerl around your hair makes it dry faster
how tf is this guy playing a strategic game?

[chrome knot]

LOL

[knotty mirage]

Prolly mirror herb just use something else to kill amoongus

[chrome knot]

hehehe

[spiral ridge]

:3

[chrome knot]

me when i go feral

[spiral ridge]

mhm

https://tenor.com/view/yumeko-jabami-蛇喰-夢子-kakegurui-anime-gif-17306696

[mighty stump]

dude im so tired

[chrome knot]

hey

[mighty stump]

i dont remember when i go to sleep its like i black out

LOL

[chrome knot]

what the hell

[spiral ridge]

no thats real yeah

eyes closed and time perception is weird so have no idea how long it was til you finall sleep

[mighty stump]

Mine is like

I fall asleep instantly

but i have no idea when

And I have no idea how long ive been asleep for

[real prairie]

Oof what a sight to return to

Hi guys, I'm back

[random pecan]

I want to use hisuian lilligant
any tips?

[mighty stump]

with Torkoal

[spiral ridge]

hlilli is used in sun with torkoal for eruption strats or sleep spam with speed

[real prairie]

Thoughts and suggestions please? My biggest struggle so far seems to be weather setters https://pokepast.es/dec985f3b6bba8ee

[tiny karma]

Ability: Chlorophyll

If Sunny Day is active, this Pokemon's Speed is doubled. This effect is prevented if this Pokemon is holding a Utility Umbrella.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[spiral ridge]

you can stop your own chlorophyll? lmao

[random pecan]

and normal lilli after you strat?

[spiral ridge]

h lilli does after you

[random pecan]

ahh ok

[spiral ridge]

with chloro and sun you can almost always be faster than you after you tork for an eruption or whatever you want

[real prairie]

There he is, missed you buddy! Been reading the blog

[random pecan]

I want to use both so I guess I can use both as tork support

[spiral ridge]

-one flying type

[mighty stump]

thanks for reading i appreciate you

[gentle crag]

woodtofu has given 1 Gen Rep to oneofakindof

[random pecan]

[spiral ridge]

[real prairie]

Was still trying to build a rain Ludi team and used your recent reg H one as a starting point... Turns out I'm shite at piloting it so I have this now https://pokepast.es/dec985f3b6bba8ee 🤣

[random pecan]

what else should I run on h lilli?

victory dance?

Solar Blade?

[spiral ridge]

solar blade is good, sleep powder too cus you can sleep them before anything

[real prairie]

And protect 🧱

[random pecan]

hustle ability

what items should I use?

[chrome knot]

leaf blade

[random pecan]

a berry for flying attacks?

[chrome knot]

leaf blade cc after you sleep powder @ sash

[spiral ridge]

please trust emma over me

[mighty stump]

well for clarity they are also first drafts that functionally are ok but its best to alter them to ones own preferences

[random pecan]

ok

[real prairie]

Yeah, what I was working at, but was getting slapped

[spiral ridge]

am just curious if it is a sun team why not solar blade?

[random pecan]

I was never good in vcg, so I blindly trust everything

[spiral ridge]

just so that its still good in rain?

[chrome knot]

weather wars is popular rn

[spiral ridge]

yeahh okay makes sense

[chrome knot]

i dont want to be caught where i can’t use grass move into water type

[spiral ridge]

thats true

[random pecan]

My brother uses Yanmega Dragapult Incin Rilla Scizor and Gholdengo

he just threw everything in and still won against me

if we play with restricted tho… he loses

[spiral ridge]

well 4 of those are actually pretty good

[random pecan]

I used Rilla Incin too but I also had Lokix Ribombee Chandelure and Yanmega

his incin cooked me

[spiral ridge]

-chande
-only fire type is incin

idk why but i read the also had as your lead, i have no clue if you left it behind nvm 😭

[random pecan]

I want to use both Lillis cuz I wasted 30h shiny hunting

[spiral ridge]

im sorry did you sandwich?

[random pecan]

I spent most time in PLA

[spiral ridge]

or use a shiny hunting method

[random pecan]

and no success so I switched to sandwich

[spiral ridge]

OB farming didnt work?

[real prairie]

Power herb 👀🤣

[random pecan]

I got his scyther, a clefairy and a zorua

[spiral ridge]

oooo zorua okay

[chrome knot]

no..?

[real prairie]

Kidding

Will spend half the game not wanting to burn the herb and not using one of your moves because of it, daft idea (my speciality)

[chrome knot]

what

[random pecan]

My brother also got my Archaludon and he doesn’t use it against me

[spiral ridge]

arch is sorta fucking busted rn

[random pecan]

literally most popular without any legendaries

[real prairie]

It's a literal tank

[random pecan]

Stamina Body Press and also literally meteor beam on steroids

while also having draco meteor

[real prairie]

Trying to fight a bridge with a walking leaf and a fire tortoise*

[random pecan]

[spiral ridge]

uhh

not meteor beam

[tiny karma]

Move: Electro Shot

This attack charges on the first turn and executes on the second. Raises the user's Special Attack by 1 stage on the first turn. If the user is holding a Power Herb or the weather is Primordial Sea or Rain Dance, the move completes in one turn. If the user is holding Utility Umbrella and the weather is Primordial Sea or Rain Dance, the move still requires a turn to charge.

Type

Electric

Category

Special

Power

130

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Charge

Has a charging turn.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[random pecan]

I also gave him a pelipper to work with

[spiral ridge]

then why meteor beam my man 😭

[real prairie]

Their saying Electro shot is better Meteor beam I think

[random pecan]

I mean… gives 1 sp atk and activates in rain too

[spiral ridge]

OHHH i read the steroids thing as the boost putting them on steroids

not that electro shot is meteor beam on steroids okay

[random pecan]

sorry, I just think its cracked too

I gave it tera grass

dk if that was stupid

[random pecan]

assault vest too

[spiral ridge]

uhh idk what its tera is actually cus its typing is just good

[real prairie]

Grass is good

[random pecan]

basically made my own worst enemy for my brother

against sleep powder and spore

[real prairie]

Grass or Fairy are the go toos

[random pecan]

while also resisting ground

and neutral to fighting

I got so many grass type shinies… I could be a grass gym leader at this point

[real prairie]

I remember early usage people would use electric

[random pecan]

for the Electro shot stab ig

[real prairie]

Si

[whole ibex]

Do you guys think it’s inherently bad to have a physical heavy team?

[real prairie]

Vs Incin it's a pain in the arse but it's not the end of the world

[random pecan]

mine is almost always special heavy

[real prairie]

I tend to favour special due to how many things have a contact effect

[random pecan]

also, physical walls can be annoying

like Archa

[real prairie]

Archa is just a wall in general

[random pecan]

yeah

its typing is good against special

[real prairie]

And the few types that would do good damage don't have an awful lot of special moves (outside of fairy)

[random pecan]

also Fire gets weakened by rain

[real prairie]

Did anyone have any advise for me?https://pokepast.es/dec985f3b6bba8ee

[solid frigate]

Psyspam Espeon?

[real prairie]

Si, it's faster than most of the other psyspam ATM

Helps espeon is one my favourite mons (thanks Pokémon Colosseum)

Anyone got any good counters to Murkrow + Htypho

[mighty stump]

Ttar

[foggy lodge]

rocky helmet/safety goggles are better for Indeedee-F

Matches are simply not longer enough to take advantage of the extra turns of terrain

[polar nest]

what about me https://pokepast.es/a738b574406c4aee

[foggy lodge]

Farigiraf seems redundant in the team tbh

[real prairie]

Funnily enough it's come in handy but I get your point, between the length of matches and Rila spam it's a bit muted

[real prairie]

Was just another partner Mon, happy to swap it out

[foggy lodge]

Room service Amoonguss is also unnecesary for when Amoonguss is already like 2nd slowest pokemon in the game

[real prairie]

Room service makes it slower than TR Torkoal and thats enough reason for me

[chrome knot]

amoonguss @ no item for 9/10 games

[real prairie]

Gone with goggles indeedee, cheers

[gentle crag]

oneofakindof has given 1 Gen Rep to maxihd

[polar nest]

i dont really know how to build indeedee

[real prairie]

Need an attacking move on indeedee or you are 1 taunt away from crying

[polar nest]

ok

[real prairie]

Does psychic seed do much for delphox when you aren't investing in SpDef? Genuinely don't know the Mon well

[polar nest]

hmm

[karmic temple]

You have a lot of speed on all your mons, if you’re using trick room you’ll just shoot yourself in the foot

[polar nest]

idk what to give instead

[polar nest]

its to reverse trick room

[dull ibex]

Hello

[real prairie]

That's why I have imprison better than playing guessing games if they will or won't set TR

Because if they don't set it, you will just set it for them

[polar nest]

oh ok

idk what to give delphox

charcoal?

https://pokepast.es/5caa8ee06023c5d6

[foggy lodge]

i don't see the team having too much direction outside of being psyspam

[polar nest]

mine or oneofakindofs?

[foggy lodge]

Yours

[polar nest]

i like to use fwg

but wanted to try psyspam as well

[foggy lodge]

most psyspam teams don't use the fwg cores

[polar nest]

hmm, maybe i should reconsider

i dont wanna have too many psychic types

i alr have 3

[real prairie]

You could run indeedee, Delphox, Torkoal sun team

Gives you psyspam option and TR sun option and gives Delphox fire boost

[random pecan]

any EV spread suggestion for both Lillis and Torkoal?

[real prairie]

So for Torkoal you are going to want some baking soda ...

[calm gulch]

lmfao

[foggy lodge]

Lilligant just 252 speed 252 atk 4 into whatever stat you want

[next stump]

both are just max/max

[real prairie]

Any decent sabeleye builds? Thinking he could be a good slower prankers option to stop Sunny day Murkrow

[random pecan]

ok

[mighty stump]

Classically you run Encore/Disable stuff

[foggy lodge]

Does murkrow learn sunny day

[tiny karma]

Murkrow's moveset:

Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Assurance, Astonish, Brave Bird, Double-Edge, Drill Peck, Dual Wingbeat, Facade, Feint Attack, Fly, Foul Play, Frustration, Giga Impact, Lash Out, Natural Gift, Payback, Peck, Pluck, Pursuit, Quick Attack, Retaliate, Return, Secret Power, Sky Attack, Steel Wing, Sucker Punch, Take Down, Thief, U-turn, Wing Attack

Special Moves

Air Cutter, Air Slash, Dark Pulse, Dream Eater, Gust, Heat Wave, Hex, Hidden Power, Hurricane, Hyper Beam, Icy Wind, Mud-Slap, Night Shade, Ominous Wind, Psychic, Psychic Noise, Round, Shadow Ball, Snarl, Snore, Swift, Tera Blast, Twister, Uproar

Status Moves

Attract, Calm Mind, Captivate, Confide, Confuse Ray, Curse, Defog, Detect, Double Team, Embargo, Endure, Feather Dance, Flatter, Haze, Mean Look, Mimic, Mirror Move, Nasty Plot, Nightmare, Perish Song, Protect, Psych Up, Psycho Shift, Quash, Rain Dance, Rest, Roost, Scary Face, Screech, Sleep Talk, Snatch, Spite, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Tailwind, Taunt, Thunder Wave, Torment, Toxic, Whirlwind

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Murkrow.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[real prairie]

Unfortunately

[foggy lodge]

id be more worried about whimsicott anyways

[real prairie]

Murkrow sunny day + Htypholsion have been murking me all afternoon

No idea why they favour Murkrow over Whims

@mighty stump
Encore
Disable
Rain dance
Foul play

?

[mighty stump]

Yeah something like that. Other options include Quash, Taunt, Fake Out, Screens

[torn parrot]

I already hate today

And I don’t know why

[real prairie]

Ooo quash could be interesting option to stop both After you Torkoal and Htypho

[real prairie]

Item?

[real prairie]

Well hope it gets better for you

[torn parrot]

Same thank u

[mighty stump]

Sash is fine. I used to use Resist berry like Roseli.

[mighty stump]

At least you don't have to work Sundays

[torn parrot]

For real, I’m sorry 😔

[random pecan]

I have no more cc tms

[real prairie]

Thanks

[gentle crag]

oneofakindof has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu

[random pecan]

what attacking move would you guys recommend on Lilli?

Leaf storm?

[mighty stump]

? HIsui-Lilligant is physical

Leaf Blade/Solar Blade

[random pecan]

normal Lilli

Hisuian runs Leaf Blade and CC

[mighty stump]

Leaf Storm/EBall ig

[little plank]

So I took my modified wolfey team, and put muk and smeargle on it as a distraction. 95% of the time I never use it. And I climbed to 1500 with the perishdozo form of the team lmao

[random pecan]

thanks

[gentle crag]

kennick. has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu

[solid frigate]

god damn it you joined the dark side

[spiral ridge]

some evil mindgame shit

[bold geode]

This guy

[whole ibex]

I mean I have Tauros, Clam Garchomp, and Ttar to deal with Incin.

[fleet topaz]

Interesting question... how did all three Gen 7 starter pokemon... become to top % in the meta?

[kindred cypress]

2, unless we are counting hisuian decidueye

[random pecan]

Hisuian Decidueye

kinda cracket signature attack

[real prairie]

Yeah but the intimidate + parting shot are still a pain in the fucking arse

[calm gulch]

u dont hava to be jealous monke

[whole ibex]

Yeah

[little plank]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2196608744 close one lmao

[dense latch]

perish song tatsu is such a cool strat

[little plank]

Yeah it's pretty fun

[fleet topaz]

It counts... the core design is still there

[little plank]

I've been seeing him alot with his triple arrow and haze lol

[plush prairie]

Are there any teams that use Salazzle thinking about stepping into the pvp aspect of the game for the first time.

[forest arrow]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=jrasYbuiaRo&si=SOnwlWNQYifRlxla

[forest arrow]

you can check this team out

[dull ibex]

Hamurott is a fraud

[bold geode]

You're a fraud

[whole ibex]

Weegeecee for a little bit? Kinda bored

[bold geode]

What does Salazzle even have?

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 758: Salazzle

Types

Poison/Fire

Abilities

Corrosion, Oblivious (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

68/64/60/111/60/117

Total

480

Other Formes

Salazzle-Totem

Sableye version 4.28.1

Salazzle's moveset:

Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Beat Up, Body Slam, Breaking Swipe, Covet, Cross Poison, Double Slap, Dragon Claw, Dragon Tail, Endeavor, Facade, Fake Out, Fire Fang, Fire Lash, Flame Charge, Flare Blitz, Fling, Foul Play, Frustration, Giga Impact, Gunk Shot, Iron Tail, Knock Off, Leech Life, Payback, Poison Fang, Poison Jab, Poison Tail, Pound, Return, Scale Shot, Scratch, Shadow Claw, Skitter Smack, Take Down, Temper Flare, Thief, Trailblaze

Special Moves

Acid Spray, Belch, Burning Jealousy, Dragon Pulse, Dragon Rage, Ember, Fire Blast, Flame Burst, Flamethrower, Heat Wave, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Incinerate, Mud-Slap, Overheat, Round, Sludge Bomb, Sludge Wave, Smog, Snore, Swift, Tera Blast, Venoshock

Status Moves

Agility, Attract, Captivate, Confide, Corrosive Gas, Disable, Double Team, Dragon Cheer, Dragon Dance, Encore, Endure, Fake Tears, Helping Hand, Laser Focus, Nasty Plot, Poison Gas, Protect, Rest, Sand Attack, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Snatch, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Sweet Scent, Taunt, Thunder Wave, Torment, Toxic, Toxic Spikes, Venom Drench, Will-O-Wisp

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Salazzle.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[bold geode]

I see it being able to Smog Archaludon and that's really just it lol

[little plank]

I remember using salazzle a bit in my stall team in sword and shield. His toxic could go threw steel typing made it really nice to deal with zacian lmao

[torn parrot]

I think every pokemon is real

I don’t beleive in frauds

[mighty stump]

I think every pokemon is a fraud

[forest arrow]

fast fo, dragon cheer for hydrei, poison/fire STAB

[mighty stump]

I don’t believe in reals

only honest mon out there is Incineroar

[balmy glen]

the frauds are the mons we brought along the way to our main team of the reg

[forest arrow]

cc incin to be exact

[mighty stump]

Me to Snorlax:

Blud thinks hes part of the team

(he is)

[forest arrow]

lmaoo

[mighty stump]

You laugh but I don’t see your Incin OHKOing Ttar

Checkmate

[forest arrow]

my poor sudo how could you

[mighty stump]

I had stupid fun with CB Snorlax though

[bold geode]

Even Snorlax?

[mighty stump]

Ya

[bold geode]

Bro's washed lmao

[chrome knot]

2-1, +32

[molten oasis]

People really do be all over Maya’s team lol

[whole ibex]

Thanks thoughts on the team so far?

[gentle crag]

soggywaffles6251 has given 1 Gen Rep to vibez4420

[whole ibex]

I want to slap Tauros into this team but idk how to feel about having so much physical mons. Might sadly have to get rid of Brambleghast.

[whole ibex]

^

[bold geode]

It's something unique in this format 🤷‍♂️

[molten oasis]

Yea and it’s also called gholdengo food

(I’m kidding)

[dusky plank]

Is someone willing to help me make a doubles team for the newest season?

DM me if you're interested

[molten oasis]

alright today, we get shiny sneasel at least

[dawn crown]

do i use scope lens or focus sash on decidueye hisui

[torn parrot]

wait really?

thats awesome lol

[molten oasis]

when cybertron makes a video on a team it blows up

im already seeing people playing wolfe's team on ladder

[torn parrot]

haha makes sense

[whole ibex]

What was Maya’s team?

[torn parrot]

The ribombee team
was created by my friend and I

[misty helm]

which is better as a coverage move psychic or psyshock

[atomic portal]

@torn parrot we got the back to back feature from cybertron and cloverbells 😭

https://youtu.be/gvF5PRVStDE?si=Ipbct-ESjeYZkud6

[torn parrot]

‼️ 😳

[dusky plank]

Trying to make one centered around Hisuian Goodra

[molten oasis]

Damn, people really like your team lol

im convinced shiny sneasel isnt real

[runic eagle]

(idiot beginner here go easy on me)
how common are teams featuring strong spread moves and immune abilities (like Boomburst + Soundproof, Earthquake + Earth Eater, etc)

i feel like i see them sometimes but not enough to be considered a widespread strategy

[nocturne holly]

You’re doing a sneasler team?

Wait cybertron did a vid on maya’s team? That’s great

[bold geode]

Got a basic balance team WITH Sneasler on it myself but that's about it

[nocturne holly]

Lemme see

Sneasler is so cool

[bold geode]

Nah

[atomic portal]

and cloverbells!

[molten oasis]

It’s the 6th on my team I think works pretty well rn

[whole ibex]

Anyone wanna vc?

[bold geode]

Working rn

[dull ibex]

we did it another game in my backlog completed

[dull ibex]

No

[whole ibex]

Nice

[torn parrot]

so um

have you all noticed like

a TON of multiscale dragonites now

[molten oasis]

i might be over odds on these sneasel

[solid frigate]

I LOVE IT

THE LITTLE GUY

[solid frigate]

back to Reg A Dnite?

[torn parrot]

guess it makes sense

[solid frigate]

i can note something out of it

[molten oasis]

Not really no

that means faking it out and intimidating it is on the table

[torn parrot]

whenevr i encounter one itll like set up tailwind or do something utilitywise

[solid frigate]

did i just saw someone run TRIPLE Weather

[torn parrot]

iv encountered one of those teams

it confused the fuck out of me and i had no idea what to do lol

[bold geode]

I got knocked two games out of 1300 today
Once cuz of a Lycanroc Midnight that got lucky on me
And then the 2nd was the classic MausApe CTS "gotcha bitch" shenanigan

[molten oasis]

The final gambit lead?

[bold geode]

Yeah the Vital Spirit Final Gambit and Pop Bomb Maus shit

[torn parrot]

why do they run vital spirit?
im curious

[bold geode]

Can't be put to sleep
It's basically what a decent amount of Scarf Ape run iirc
Though this is just a CTS thing cuz some people see MausApe and expect BuBu so

[molten oasis]

maybe play more bo3?

[bold geode]

In CTS it's kinda hard to know and you can genuinely get bamboozled

[bold geode]

I'm 1330 ELO atm
Actually doing good for once

[molten oasis]

That’s good keep it up

[torn parrot]

wait

i thought vital spirit was inner focus for a sec

lol

[bold geode]

Yeah no
It's why Electabuzz runs Tera Ghost

[dull ibex]

weegeecee

[solid frigate]

weegeecee

[whole ibex]

Sure

[torn parrot]

For some reason

Inner focus vital spirit and own tempo get mixed up in my head

I don’t know why

[rustic mountain]

i agree but i still feel like wat i said stands

[torn parrot]

nice job!!

Sorry I dunno why I scrolled so far

[rustic mountain]

[bold geode]

Tree you see me launch a Dire Claw into an Archaludon?

[molten oasis]

the balls on this man right here

[bold geode]

I mean you either tera and eat that or don't and eat a fuckin Close Combat which usually should OHKO

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2196313949
But it's still funny

[torn parrot]

Now you gotta launch a close combat into a gholdengo

Wait why would you do that

Where is my brain today

[rustic mountain]

to predict the tera steel

[rustic mountain]

if pult hits itself there that gets dicey haha but nice

also their basculegion not outspeeding pult in rain

[raven wing]

Can someone tell me why electabuzz and not electivire?

[rustic mountain]

its a better support mon electivire is lackluster as an offensive threat

[torn parrot]

lol u would probably do it because they’re all throat chopping these days

[rustic mountain]

eviolite + a plethora of good support moves and a solid speed tier give electabuzz a solid place

i find tera predictions usually not worth it most of the time but it can be game winning if u get it right, really just depends wat the trade off is for getting it wrong

or if u have the necessary coverage to confidently double a slot predicting the tera but also covering if they dont

its less prediction and more just covering ur bases in that regard

[torn parrot]

For sure

I didn’t mean like

You specifically I mean like

That’s why they would tera steel

[rustic mountain]

i was speaking generally not saying it was directed at me

i get wat u meant

[solid frigate]

should i try a Pult Centric Team

[rustic mountain]

idk bout pult centric but its a good mon

[solid frigate]

might as well try it,does not have any harm on trying the team

[bold geode]

The ELO system is such a fucking joke
Win 1
+13
Lose 1
-32
Where's the fucking consistency

[solid frigate]

damn it wish i can use Wolfey's Players Cup Dpult team that uses the COAL

[molten oasis]

this shiny hunt is literally torture dude

like give me ONE

[bold geode]

Anyways I just threw away 120 ELO so if anyone asks me for advice or anything I will shit in your fucking Cheerios yay

[molten oasis]

hey my team feels pretty bad you wanna look at it?

[bold geode]

🖕

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2196952892

I did not play well at all

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/24be57aa6e2c4fba Behold

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/837a111d9ca99d2b

I am so back to 1200 with this team

(Alluring Voice Milotic is for Dozogiri Pairing with Super Fang Maus)

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2196963229

Kinda wanna threw up as a player as well

What am i doing-

[rustic mountain]

i mean its based on who ur matched vs
lose vs a lot lower rank lose more points
beat someone w/ not much lower rank or about the same gain not many points

works the same the other way u beat some1 ranked a lot higher u get more points

[molten oasis]

FREEDOM

(Now I’m hunting alpha harc)

[solid frigate]

LETS GOOO

[molten oasis]

see, im gonna lose that freedom lol

cuz now im going for alpha harc

which is gonna take LONGER

but the method is a tad easier

[solid frigate]

i mean it has its pros and cons but good luck

[patent marsh]

I got a female one randomly

And now I can't look at it

[molten oasis]

Nice

[dull ibex]

I might run fiery wrath for a bit

[molten oasis]

wha?

[dull ibex]

Ye

On volc

[molten oasis]

You mean fiery dance?

[dull ibex]

Yes

Who cares you know what I mean

[pearl wind]

chansey is so silly

[knotty mirage]

I have question if i use parting shot or switch in to weezing so it activate neutralizing gas will truant still active or my slaking can attack ?

[chrome knot]

depends speed order if u parting shot, switching happens before any moves and shuts off abilities before turn plays out

[knotty mirage]

I mean parting shot with prankster mon like grimmsnarl

[mighty stump]

Then Truant won’t be used if NGas is on the field before Slaking moves

[knotty mirage]

I'm thinking of opening with grim and slaking use light screen and on the next turn parting shot or switch in too weezing

[mighty stump]

That’s fine

[knotty mirage]

Ah alright so play like that should work

[chrome knot]

pm

ive made a funny adaptation

[knotty mirage]

So this is my first attempt at making slaking team for reg H is this good enough or is there anything i should change ?
https://pokepast.es/7a99c85166ae138d

And for some EV of the mon i don't show it because i don't really remember the exact number on the in game

[wary prawn]

What sort of base stats should I be looking for in competitive viable Pokemon? Is there a rule of thumb like "it should have a total of at least x when all base stats are added together but also y should be true" or any sort of reference or something?

[next stump]

are you looking to play doubles (VGC)?

If so, there isn't really a "it needs to have X base stats to be good"

[robust arrow]

The higher possible

Also for moves, high damage is very good

[fringe oar]

what would be a cool vgc relevant mon to get the shining star ribbon on? Was gonna do it on my shiny kyogre but messed up sheen

[mighty stump]

Doesn’t matter about the high stats if their position in the metagame is poor lol

This isn’t single player PvE where you can spam high damage moves freely either

[robust arrow]

no no pokemon with high stats are good

I am talking PvP

this is competitive discussion after all 🙂

metagame differs from tier to tier on showdown

so you cna use lower stats pokemon in lower tiers I think

some are good because of gimmicks too

[craggy dagger]

did i pop in at a bad time?

[mighty stump]

sigh

okay

suit yourself

[atomic portal]

@mighty stump that sounds like a jaysp/raymeta alt if u remember them lol

[chrome knot]

potentially

[solid frigate]

Clefairy,Electabuzz,Whimsicott:

[craggy dagger]

murkrow would like to have a word :0

[solid frigate]

Oh yeah not to Mention Talonflame who is Below 500

[craggy dagger]

but talon gets a bye
cause its only used for its speed and gale wings .-.

[solid frigate]

Stats does not tell the whole story of the Pokémon’s Potential

[solid frigate]

Gen 6 Talonflame Go brrr

[craggy dagger]

i have yet to see a full on attacking talon .-.

[robust arrow]

You are right I was wrong

[bold geode]

Hai bestie

[chrome knot]

go every specific niche supporter mon!!!!

[chrome knot]

hai stinky

[bold geode]

Gastrodon was aight lol

[craggy dagger]

i mean
generally higher base stat total is good
but it all depends on what you need on the team and what fits in well

[robust arrow]

What format are yall playing ?

[bold geode]

Also I fucking hate how Sneasler wants to Poison mfers with Dire Claw WAY MORE than sleep

VGC Regulation H

[bold geode]

Hello Mr Tofu

[bold geode]

Big sippies

[craggy dagger]

[craggy dagger]

haiiiiii

[solid frigate]

ye

[robust arrow]

Is VGC a smogon thing ? It looks very serious from my google search

[bold geode]

Wait I like this one

[chrome knot]

@craggy dagger wanna play shield for me while I go take a nap

[bold geode]

Smogon refers to singles formats usually like OU and stuff
VGC is doubles and the official competitive format Pokemon uses for events

[craggy dagger]

vgc is the official competitive format for pokemon
so you'll see the pokemon world championships do "vgc"
which is usually doubles battles

[robust arrow]

Oh I see I see

So it's not smogon right

[chrome knot]

non

[bold geode]

No

[robust arrow]

Which one is better ?

[chrome knot]

vgc

[bold geode]

Well it's really preference, but VGC has wider reach tbh

[solid frigate]

Yep VGC better

[craggy dagger]

i mean...
both are fun
and while most people in this chat would be bias towards vgc, singles battles isnt too bad.
its just when we talk about a competitive scene, vgc is a lot more popular

[mighty stump]

Unfortunately i do, despite my preference of not wanting to

Anyways

bed time

[bold geode]

Yeah this

[bold geode]

Wake up Joe Biden

Behold

[torn parrot]

Bed time for you morning time for me

[bold geode]

Behold Joe Biden

[robust arrow]

Sleepy Joe

[chrome knot]

goodnight stink

[craggy dagger]

:0
Goodnight Tofu!!

[robust arrow]

What do you need to do to play ranked battles on the switch ? It won't let me

[torn parrot]

Do u have Nintendo online sir

[robust arrow]

Ya

[bold geode]

Oh Nova I'm finally not playing like dogshit yay

[robust arrow]

I found how

Just got no teams

[solid frigate]

yey

[torn parrot]

Oh lol

[torn parrot]

Emma do you want a banana

[chrome knot]

yah

[robust arrow]

?

[torn parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-pet-rabbit-banana-dinner-time-gif-15086144

[solid frigate]

do you have any sort of Teambuilding or Meta Related experience tho?

[robust arrow]

Showdown/smogon

[solid frigate]

Thats a Ok Start,I would recommend looking at Pins for Resources on VGC Stuff

[torn parrot]

It’s time for breakfast

No wait

[atomic portal]

brunch

[torn parrot]

Lunch

[solid frigate]

Tea Time

[bold geode]

To add on to what he said, there are resources in the pins
I would read up some on them and maybe try some rentals before diving into teambuilding as learning meta and the basics can be very valuable for the craft
As with anything, for this fun little hobby knowledge can be power
Of course you got people here to ask questions as well so

[solid frigate]

And DON’T teambuild without knowing the Basics

[torn parrot]

Ye There’s a lot of players who jump in trying to make a team and then have no idea what to do and get frusterated

[solid frigate]

exactly,Knowing the Basics,Understand the Meta and Know your gameplan

thats the top 3 thing on Playing VGC

[robust arrow]

wdym by basics

like grass resists water ?

[torn parrot]

Try picking up a team and getting used to how doubles works

The gameplay itself

[robust arrow]

There were double battles in the last part of the game

Is that similar ?

[bold geode]

Well the basics of competitive doubles
It can work a little different than Smogon or even casual doubles

[torn parrot]

It is similar but players have their own way of doing things

A lot of strategies to look out for and know how to use and can be a lot more scary

[solid frigate]

Doubles is a lot more complicated than Singles,So you have to Adjust by knowing Basics

[robust arrow]

I got a rental with the cheese stick, grass guy from gen 8, fire guy from gen 7, the bear from Arceus, Porygon 2 and Dragonite

[solid frigate]

hell I don’t think Singles Player know what Follow Me or After You does

[solid frigate]

Dengo,Rilla,Incin,Regular Ursaluna,P2 and Dnite?

[robust arrow]

ya

[bold geode]

Sounds like it'd be aight

[solid frigate]

Rentals are good start

[robust arrow]

it's the ursaluna with the weird face though

the one from the DLC i think

[solid frigate]

Bloodmoon?

eh its good

[robust arrow]

they have weird Tera types

[solid frigate]

Not really,Regular Uses Tera Ghost and Grass and Bloodmoon Uses Tera Normal

[robust arrow]

oh it's Dragonite Normal

[bold geode]

Normal Dnite is common

[robust arrow]

Ursaluna is water

[torn parrot]

Every single morning I feel empty and depressed inside until I have my lunch

Then I feel good

[solid frigate]

water Luna is weird choice but its alright

[robust arrow]

with tera blast

[bold geode]

Where did you get this rental might I ask?

[solid frigate]

usually BM Ursa uses Tera Normal with Blood Moon,Hyper Voice,Earth Power,Protect with Life Orb

i seen People run Normal Gem before and STOP IT

[robust arrow]

it's my friend's team

[solid frigate]

Don’t trust

[knotty mirage]

I run silk scarf because the life orb is occupied by other mon on my team

[solid frigate]

at least thats a ok Alternative,Normal Gem isn’t

[knotty mirage]

Yeah normal gem is wonky only one time use and get screwed by protect

Throat spray is at least more understandable

[solid frigate]

hell even Sitrus is a better item than Normal Gem

[timber falcon]

any ideas for a mon here? im looking for one that could work both in and out of tr. so like 100 speed or smth. Not to fast, not too slow

[atomic portal]

ape

[bold geode]

What are you tryna accomplish?

[solid frigate]

Ape is literally right there

or Rilla if you want FO

[atomic portal]

where the ape

[timber falcon]

the team doesnt like to contest tailwind, so im tryna solifify my tr gameplay

ive thought about ape but i cant see how it would work in a needed tr scenario

[solid frigate]

i mean its right there you can put in

[atomic portal]

oh i see

[bold geode]

Looks like you tried to make 2-2-2 and forgot Ape

[timber falcon]

it was originally basculegion. also its the max speed arch set so

[solid frigate]

Stop using Max Archa-

[bold geode]

Idk how well Arch Rain and BM Farig pair up rn

[timber falcon]

nuh uh

[bold geode]

If you're max Arch just fuckin drop AV and go Stalwart or some shit

[timber falcon]

im not running av though

its lorb stalwart

[bold geode]

And iirc those teams like TW anyways as well

[timber falcon]

peli

but things like whimiscott need a tr answer

ive been using for a while and contesting tw is just not it

[bold geode]

What's your game plan into Sneasler

[timber falcon]

tera arch and go for the surprise or just tr

[bold geode]

What tera?

[timber falcon]

fairy

[solid frigate]

Either Tera Sucks tho

[timber falcon]

depends is it OTS

the more sensible option is ofc tr

[solid frigate]

but then again,I just fucking nuke Sneasler with Peli soooo

[bold geode]

So one player gets ballsy enough and clicks Dire Claw into Arch pre tera and then it's up to gamblers luck amirite

[solid frigate]

there is a reason why i have Pult on My Peli Archa

[timber falcon]

yeah so id just tr scenario. no point contesting sneasler for speed/try mindgames

[timber falcon]

tried this and peli went to sleep

[bold geode]

Ah yes
So TR how would that go might I ask
How would you set up and get BM Ursa in

[timber falcon]

maus + farig is how i do it

yet to fail me

[bold geode]

At least you got that figured out

Points for figuring out not to lead BM

[timber falcon]

Yep yep

Trial and error

[solid frigate]

BM lead is not too great unless you have some mon to protect BM

[bold geode]

Now what's your answer for Clef balance

[timber falcon]

Example?

[bold geode]

Have you not seen Clef balance?

[timber falcon]

Didn’t know people used balance lol

[bold geode]

The way you be under a rock sometimes is astounding

[solid frigate]

thats like everywhere

[timber falcon]

I haven’t seen clef in so long what am I missing lol

It’s not like I’m even low on elo I’m stuck in the 1400

[bold geode]

Volc/Clefable/Kingambit/Rilla/Tauros Aqua and then 6th varies but most popular is Gengar

[timber falcon]

OH

you mean clefable

Peli+arch combo is what I do pretty much

[knotty mirage]

Huh i never seen team like that is it because i played on in game ladder

[solid frigate]

i play Showdown Ladder before build teams lol

[bold geode]

Wait Stalwart Archaludon maybe it's easier than usual

[solid frigate]

i might use Peli,Archa,Pult,Rilla,Maus,Milotic

[timber falcon]

Also for reasons such as volc I am looking for a physical attacker for 6th slot cause it gets annoying

Quiver dance that is

[knotty mirage]

Oh i actually just made team on the in game and jump to it immediately

[bold geode]

Actually Sludge Bomb + CC is a lead attack for Arch there

[timber falcon]

Protect and tailwind is my first thoughts into such possibilities

[knotty mirage]

Oh well i guess because i just want some of my shiny pokemon to have use than just collecting dust on box

[timber falcon]

And if peli dies I got the maus

so yeah ive accounted for most MUs, but when it comes to Hyper offence tailwind, especially garchomp i start second guessing

and BM ursa alone isnt cutting it

[solid frigate]

Thats why i love Rillaboom

[timber falcon]

never even crossed my mind

eh i think i want something more offensive

typing wise, like for dragons and bugs and the sort, wide range

[foggy lodge]

i think im just going to spam clef balance

i like the team its very consistent

baltimore is in one week right?

[timber falcon]

What clef set do they run?

[foggy lodge]

Safety Goggles Tera Water

[timber falcon]

Moves?

[foggy lodge]

Follow Me Helping Hand Moonblast Protect

Some run thunder wave too

[timber falcon]

Aight so they don’t normally run psyc up

[solid frigate]

Why run that

Haze Screw that

[timber falcon]

Bro it stole my electro shot boosts and swept me cause it had unaware

[foggy lodge]

lmao

[timber falcon]

They might be into something

[knotty mirage]

Good thing the most used haze user weak to electro shot

[foggy lodge]

Gengar?

[tiny karma]

Clefable's moveset:

Physical Moves

Bide, Body Slam, Bounce, Brick Break, Counter, Covet, Dig, Double Slap, Double-Edge, Drain Punch, Dual Wingbeat, Dynamic Punch, Endeavor, Facade, Fire Punch, Fling, Focus Punch, Frustration, Giga Impact, Headbutt, Ice Punch, Iron Tail, Knock Off, Last Resort, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Meteor Mash, Natural Gift, Play Rough, Pound, Power-Up Punch, Present, Rage, Retaliate, Return, Rock Smash, Rollout, Secret Power, Seismic Toss, Skull Bash, Strength, Submission, Take Down, Thief, Thunder Punch, Wake-Up Slap, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Alluring Voice, Blizzard, Bubble Beam, Charge Beam, Chilling Water, Dazzling Gleam, Disarming Voice, Draining Kiss, Dream Eater, Echoed Voice, Fire Blast, Flamethrower, Focus Blast, Future Sight, Grass Knot, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Incinerate, Magical Leaf, Meteor Beam, Misty Explosion, Moonblast, Mud-Slap, Mystical Fire, Night Shade, Psybeam, Psychic, Psyshock, Psywave, Round, Shadow Ball, Shock Wave, Signal Beam, Snore, Solar Beam, Stored Power, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Tri Attack, Uproar, Water Gun, Water Pulse, Zap Cannon

Status Moves

After You, Ally Switch, Amnesia, Aromatherapy, Attract, Baton Pass, Belly Drum, Bestow, Calm Mind, Captivate, Charm, Confide, Copycat, Cosmic Power, Curse, Defense Curl, Detect, Double Team, Encore, Endure, Fake Tears, Flash, Follow Me, Gravity, Growl, Heal Bell, Heal Pulse, Healing Wish, Helping Hand, Imprison, Laser Focus, Life Dew, Light Screen, Lucky Chant, Magic Coat, Metronome, Mimic, Minimize, Misty Terrain, Moonlight, Nightmare, Protect, Psych Up, Rain Dance, Recycle, Reflect, Rest, Role Play, Safeguard, Sing, Skill Swap, Sleep Talk, Snatch, Soft-Boiled, Splash, Spotlight, Stealth Rock, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Sweet Kiss, Telekinesis, Teleport, Thunder Wave, Tickle, Toxic, Trick, Wish, Wonder Room, Work Up

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Clefable.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[solid frigate]

nah nah,Ganger

[foggy lodge]

i want to try the Clef balance but with Glimmora over Gengar

[timber falcon]

Is it just me or does it have a lot of moves

[foggy lodge]

looks cool

[tiny karma]

Gengar's moveset:

Physical Moves

Astonish, Body Slam, Brick Break, Drain Punch, Facade, Fire Punch, Fling, Focus Punch, Foul Play, Giga Impact, Gunk Shot, Ice Punch, Knock Off, Lick, Payback, Phantom Force, Poison Jab, Poltergeist, Shadow Claw, Shadow Punch, Skitter Smack, Sucker Punch, Thief, Thunder Punch

Special Moves

Acid Spray, Clear Smog, Dark Pulse, Dazzling Gleam, Dream Eater, Energy Ball, Focus Blast, Giga Drain, Hex, Hyper Beam, Icy Wind, Night Shade, Psychic, Psychic Noise, Shadow Ball, Sludge Bomb, Sludge Wave, Smog, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Venoshock

Status Moves

Confuse Ray, Curse, Destiny Bond, Disable, Encore, Endure, Haze, Hypnosis, Imprison, Mean Look, Metronome, Nasty Plot, Pain Split, Perish Song, Protect, Psych Up, Rain Dance, Reflect Type, Rest, Scary Face, Skill Swap, Sleep Talk, Spite, Substitute, Sunny Day, Taunt, Thunder Wave, Toxic, Toxic Spikes, Trick, Trick Room, Will-O-Wisp

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Gengar.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[foggy lodge]

and i feel like haze overlaps with Quiver Dance Volc and Swords Dance Gambit

[little plank]

What is the chance of a fissure hitting a muk with 3x minimize?

[solid frigate]

almost 0% lol

[little plank]

Well it just happened

And it was glorious lol

[timber falcon]

Pretty sure Minimize doesn’t change anything

[solid frigate]

screw the Muk Smeragle Players lol

[foggy lodge]

you should play lottery at that point

[tiny karma]

Move: Fissure

Deals damage to the target equal to the target's maximum HP. Ignores accuracy and evasiveness modifiers. This attack's accuracy is equal to (user's level - target's level + 30)%, and fails if the target is at a higher level. Pokemon with the Sturdy Ability are immune.

Type

Ground

Category

Physical

Power

0

Accuracy

30

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[timber falcon]

Yeah it ignores

[little plank]

Ah so it's 30%

[solid frigate]

you could literally touch my Honkai Star Rail Account and Pull my Character Banners lol

[solid frigate]

good boi

[molten oasis]

deserved

Imagine using Archaludon

(I’m kidding)

[robust arrow]

Welp this is fun so far

[jovial storm]

Thinking of using Hisuian Decidueye on a competitive team for this Reg H stuff.

Anyone have ideas or good mons to partner with?

Was going for either Hard Trick Room or something flexible.

I got a random shiny Rowlett on my Birthday I am making my main Hisuian Decidueye and want to get the Rank Master ribbon on him.

[robust arrow]

Nice

[molten oasis]

Ideally something that threatens flying types and protects it to kill Archaludon

Not both in 1

Eh maybe just, heci is good into Archaludon and dondozo

Build a team with it in mind not really centering around it imo

[jovial storm]

Yeah, I know he won’t be the ace of the team.

Just need to know what works well and pick the ones I like.

[torn parrot]

Kills flying types and kills archaludon?

[molten oasis]

No

You want protection against flying types

Like peli, so you can kill Archaludon

[torn parrot]

I can’t read

[dull ibex]

hello

[torn parrot]

Goodbye

[solid frigate]

hoi

[torn parrot]

There

https://youtu.be/eC4QkSVyWsI?si=7w4jabekwSUNv9uB

[bold geode]

🖕

[dull ibex]

No u

[molten oasis]

You could chill out a little no?

[bold geode]

But it's Red, fuck that guy

[torn parrot]

Buckywucky

[dull ibex]

why are you bothered? Just curious

[molten oasis]

Reasons

[torn parrot]

Does anybody know how to speak Spanish

[molten oasis]

No hablo espanol

[next stump]

well enough, what’s up?

[torn parrot]

Really?

[bold geode]

Drago you do realize that this is just how me and Red talk to each other right

[next stump]

yeah I took like 10 years of spanish in school

[torn parrot]

Wow awesome

[next stump]

it’s been a few years but I can still read it well

[molten oasis]

Ok well you’ve been pissy the last 2 days

[bold geode]

I know Hola, taco, and a few curse words and that's all the Spanish I remember

[torn parrot]

Would you be able to help me write a sentence

[molten oasis]

I don’t pay that much attention to how you talk to red lol

[bold geode]

Oh no that's just me and Red talking

[torn parrot]

That doesn’t sound weird

[next stump]

sure, what do you want to try and write?

[molten oasis]

I’m usually not around

[foggy lodge]

Si

[molten oasis]

Ic

[foggy lodge]

Q necesitas

[molten oasis]

I should learn Spanish Japanese more

[bold geode]

Also I was tired and frustrated last night really
Wasn't exactly pissy

Plus I think sometimes bitching actually helps me cuz I got back to where I was
I bitch to success

[dull ibex]

🙄

[bold geode]

cough cough

[molten oasis]

If only I could bitch to success

[bold geode]

cough cough

[bold geode]

Red shut up before I report you to the rizzler

[dull ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-infinity-war-im-sorry-little-one-gif-12454554

[bold geode]

You haven't been sticking your gyatt out lately
Not very Skibidi man

He's gonna fanum tax your mewing streak

[dull ibex]

Drago I knocked another game out of the back catalog I got

This year is the year of beating games I've wanted for years ig

[bold geode]

No
Only weegeecee

[dull ibex]

Bugsnax
Lego DC super villains
Lego marvel superheroes 2
Inscryption
Ori and The Blind Forest

[bold geode]

Dumbass playing Lego games

[dull ibex]

They're great.

I'm going to beat ori 2

And lego marvel superheroes 1

Maybe also doom eternal

I got a busy schedule of back catalog

[bold geode]

To mix in with being washed at weegeecee

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rizzler-costco-guys-meme-funny-tiktok-gif-16969714374207670215

Idk why that makes me giggle

[bold geode]

This is literally the irl version of that one anime thing

[dull ibex]

okay 1200

[bold geode]

I hit 1350 quite a few times recently

[dull ibex]

sure

[bold geode]

Don't make me bust out Gastrodon bitch

[dull ibex]

bust out a good sense of humor while you are at it

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/parasyte-lock-in-locked-in-serious-meme-gif-13189278796605253304

[chrome knot]

dude me

[molten oasis]

Lmao

[molten oasis]

True

[kindred cypress]

Where’s hattrene

[torn parrot]

i wish

[little plank]

This team is so fun to play lmao

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2197425759

https://pokepast.es/1ce73cb4a0d3a988 also if anyone is curious lol

[chrome knot]

middrene

[molten oasis]

Armarouge is better imo

Better coverage, meteor beam

[foggy lodge]

It has wide guard too right?

i doubt psyspam Armarouge uses it but eh is an option i guess

[chrome knot]

we have gallade for that

[molten oasis]

Gallade has wide guard yea

Psyspam usually has, armadeedee gallade, I think phys Ursa is common too

Torkoal and lili is common too

I’ve seen some teams running ty too

[whole ibex]

Damn monkey, I wouldn’t let him talk to me like that

[dull ibex]

yes you would 🧌

[whole ibex]

Na huh

https://tenor.com/view/no-donkeys-shrek-gif-16041065

[foggy lodge]

I've seen Hisuian Zoroark

i hate it

[bold geode]

It's ok, imma steal his dad later
His dad can't resist me

@dull ibex what's your ELO again?

[dull ibex]

nonya

[gentle crag]

redstonejesus has given 1 Gen Rep to dollarmonke

[bold geode]

Are you above 1404

[dull ibex]

are you?

[bold geode]

That's mine

[dull ibex]

oh nice congratulations!

[bold geode]

I was seeing if I passed you so I knew if the world order was restored again

[dull ibex]

that truely is something alright

[bold geode]

You being above me was slowly killing our anchor being (joke)

[dull ibex]

well ig we will never truely know now

[bold geode]

Lol

Red is just somehow like 1800

[dull ibex]

(1100s)

[bold geode]

Oh I passed you up already?

[dull ibex]

you were always past me

[bold geode]

I thought you were higher

Like genuinely

[dull ibex]

you have no idea how fustrated I am with my elo

[bold geode]

What's the GXE

[dull ibex]

LOW

gen9vgc2024regh 1143 47.5% 1482 ± 25 156 160

[bold geode]

Bro that's what gets me lol
I legit bounced in and out of 1300s like 20 times last night cuz I was hellbent on keeping my GXE at 60% and it just wouldn't get there

[dull ibex]

gen9vgc2024regg 1367 53.3% 1525 ± 51 109 102

this was an okay ladder

[whole ibex]

Vc for a little bit

[bold geode]

Bro I was way better at Reg G ladder than I am at this one
Legit hit top 500 like 3-4 times and top 200 twice

[dull ibex]

if monke is down ig

[bold geode]

1404 is highest I've been this entire Reg

I'm at work, we behind but honestly idgaf

[dull ibex]

im pretty almost depressed about it tbh with you

as sad as that is

[bold geode]

I mean honestly this Reg is worse than Reg G in terms of balance (not archetype, general balance)
Which is crazy to say

It's honestly a harder Reg and like Tofu said
A knowledge check
It can be rough sometimes even if you do have knowledge

[dull ibex]

its just hard because its not showing in my playing that i work hard

so sometimes it feels like why bother

[bold geode]

I legit just battled myself out the rut and I mean like you saw me when I streamed
Just hard focused
Deadass was locking in

[dull ibex]

the only thing that keeps me sane is beating you and taking games off tofu

and im like oh I am better then my laddering suggests

but like man stupid shit keeps beating me

[tiny karma]

Ability: Ice Scales

This Pokemon receives 1/2 damage from special attacks.

Sableye version 4.28.1

Pokémon No. 873: Frosmoth

Types

Ice/Bug

Abilities

Shield Dust, Ice Scales (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

70/65/60/125/90/65

Total

475

Sableye version 4.28.1

[whole ibex]

May I ask about the Frostmoth

[solid frigate]

its like rn,can your team beat the main Archetypes and Bullshit from other weird sets

[molten oasis]

I’m not using it

[torn parrot]

people should use shelter always

instead of acid armor

because yes you get more pp that youll never use in a million years

[whole ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/hehe-spongebob-lol-wow-gif-20357716

[torn parrot]

but you lose out on the funny animation

so its not worth

):<

logically

statistically

[bold geode]

The only thing I like about this Regulation besides Ape return is that it basically promotes gambling and FUCK I LOVE GAMBLING

[whole ibex]

The Sand Archetype seems really fun. It’s no longer just TTar with F.E.A.R Dog. That shit was so corny.

[molten oasis]

What?

[torn parrot]

i think lycanock annoys me more than excadrill

[molten oasis]

You mean gambling if you were fighting calyrex or miraidon, or kyogre, wasn’t already a thing?

Lycanroc>

[whole ibex]

Exactly

[bold geode]

Sneasler and Hecidueye
Let's go gambling baby

[molten oasis]

Being fast in and out of sand is epic

[molten oasis]

Ah, ic

[solid frigate]

ok the second part got me

[dense latch]

kinda based actually

[bold geode]

Yeah

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-gambling-gif-4822326163116896763

[solid frigate]

ALL IN

[whole ibex]

How y’all been with this format?

today I’ve been pretty stumped because I still couldn’t figure out what teams to use. I think I’m just gonna stick to one team for now

Also Ageis was right

I should’ve been using Arch

[solid frigate]

[whole ibex]

Garchomp was good but I think the benefits of Arch is to good to past up for my team

I did get rid of Incin out of the team. I have no clue what to replace it with

I have been looking at a redirection Mon.

I might as well show the paste again just so people know what I’m talking about

https://pokepast.es/c8c5aff70925c71b

Apart of feels like still keeping Incin but like im kinda doubtful about it.

[dull ibex]

you lost me a game btw 😭

[little plank]

Alright o gholdengo is insanely hard for me to withstand lol

[whole ibex]

?

Are people using Electbuzz?

Haven’t seen much of it

[dull ibex]

yes

[molten oasis]

Some yes, it’s decent

[solid frigate]

sed?

[dull ibex]

what?

[solid frigate]

nvm

[balmy glen]

Not decent, it’s soooo good

[molten oasis]

Are you being sarcastic?

[foggy lodge]

Eweb or volt switch Electabuzz?

[balmy glen]

No

A lot of people in SoCal are using it

[molten oasis]

ok, just clarifying, as you said “sooooooo” which usually clarifies sarcasm, I think

[balmy glen]

Nah it’s legit really good

[molten oasis]

I’ve messed with it a little I just personally prefer amoonguss, but I totally get it

[molten oasis]

SoCal?

[whole ibex]

Maushold could be good.

Wasn’t there a support Volc that on a rain team?

[solid frigate]

it is good

[mighty stump]

Electabuzz good into Rain

[molten oasis]

How’s tofu today

[mighty stump]

busy and tired

Figured out a new interesting thing tho

[wanton berry]

Okay I did some testing played 5 matches to see how this team fairs and I know my last team went 2/3 and it's the same im trying diffrent strats but no luck anything I can do to make this better

[knotty briar]

Just made it to master ball tier with this team!!!
Never thought I'd miss Calyrex-ice

[solid frigate]

moment

[knotty briar]

Welp I finally got to master tier for this month
Back to myself dungeon

[solid frigate]

truly a moment

[dull ibex]

do tell

[bold geode]

@chrome knot what doing

[torn parrot]

LETS FUCKING GO

1800!!!!

https://tenor.com/view/angry-anime-neko-funny-funny-anime-gif-16420737

[solid frigate]

why did someone said ban Farigiraf-

Unless that Giraffe is Raging Bolt but thats besides the point

[torn parrot]

i think im finally done laddering with bee

im satified

also this happened lol

I've basically been playing one sided open teamsheets every battle cus anyone can look up my shit lol

[molten oasis]

how

thats just a regular thing for you?

like, congrats and all

[torn parrot]

iv only gotten to 1800 twice
i mainly hover around 1650-1700

[molten oasis]

its a great acomplishmet, i feel like i see that every reg and im just genuinely like, how

and why am i stuck in 1500's lol

[torn parrot]

but 1500 is really good tho

[molten oasis]

its like fine

[solid frigate]

meanwhile me stuck in 1400 in other regs while stuck in 1200-1300 in Reg H

[molten oasis]

its enough to prove im like, above average

[solid frigate]

we take those honestly

Like thats good enough

I'm not tho

[molten oasis]

well is it? i wanna be better than this

[solid frigate]

1600-1700?

[molten oasis]

top 100

is where i wanna eventually be

[solid frigate]

fair

[molten oasis]

but i also do not enjoy grinding the shit out of the ladder

[solid frigate]

i'm not gonna be that ambitious

[molten oasis]

maybe someday

i think i have potential i've hit top 500 a few times

but i usually cant hold it

[solid frigate]

i mean yeah you did

Rn i'm not gonna be that Ambitious on Reg H

cuz clearly i have skill issue in this format

[torn parrot]

yeah nobody enjoys that
it can feel like torture lol

but i know you can reach your goals drago, i beleive in you

[solid frigate]

well if you count ladder grinders who enjoy to use teams to rip people in half

[torn parrot]

people are getting way too good at making weakness policy armarouge teams rn

[solid frigate]

other than that yep ladder grind is Horrible

[torn parrot]

):

[solid frigate]

i did that in Indigo Disk DLC but like bruh

[torn parrot]

shit is annoying lol
and they ususally have a couple weird ways to activate it too

kinda makes me wanna play it