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#competitive_discussion
zinc totem
;hmm
molten oasis
Not the costar gimmick flamigo shit
zinc totem
Incineroar @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 132 Atk / 52 Def / 4 SpD / 68 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Knock Off
- Fake Out
- Will-O-Wisp
- Parting Shot
does this work as incineroar EVs?
or should i max HP max attack 
molten oasis
Why do you have 132 attack evs?
zinc totem
Why do you have 132 attack evs?
to boost knock off damage to help take down psyspam
ofc if lower attack investment does same, then i can lower it and increase more bulk
so i should make lower attack ev investment?@molten oasis
balmy glen
132? Holy 😭
zinc totem
132? Holy 😭
indeedees, armarouges scares me 
molten oasis
to boost knock off damage to help take down psyspam
Incin just wants bulk, sometimes speed
Offensive incin is SOMETIMES, and I mean SOMETIMES, ok on av sets
Otherwise full invest in your bulk
zinc totem
Incin just wants bulk, sometimes speed
Incineroar @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 236 HP / 44 Atk / 52 Def / 108 SpD / 68 Spe
Impish Nature
- Knock Off
- Fake Out
- Will-O-Wisp
- Parting Shot
is my 2nd incin ev thoughts
molten oasis
What are the evs doing
zinc totem
helping survive electro +1 164+ SpA Archaludon Electro Shot vs. 236 HP / 108 SpD Incineroar: 107-127 (53.5 - 63.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO from archaludon and defence IVs keeping defense side a bit more bulky to have chanse survive annihilape drain punch +1 36+ Atk Annihilape Drain Punch vs. 236 HP / 52+ Def Incineroar: 152-182 (76 - 91%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
zinc totem
What are the evs doing
and having little bit attack investment so it atleast does some damage to help with psyspam mons like indeedee and armarouge
and little bit speed invest helps it outspeed some mons under tw
molten oasis
and having little bit attack investment so it atleast does some damage to help w...
You do enough dude trust me
Just put it all into bulk, unless you literally have no reason to add more bulk
You already wall, kinda, armarouge
molten oasis
That’s like, a normal incin spread lol
molten oasis
If you really have nowhere else to put them rn then whatever
Id just dump those into defense
And some into hp
zinc totem
244 would be next point for hp
zinc totem
Id just dump those into defense
so like this?
molten oasis
Sure
molten oasis
civic bobcat
I’m trying to build my team, new to VGC… who are 6-12 of the most essential Pokémon to have this regulation? (Or in general)
molten oasis
or is there evs you would personally change?
They’re fine, there are probably better spreads out there
molten oasis
I’m trying to build my team, new to VGC… who are 6-12 of the most essential Poké...
Bloodmoon gholdengo Archaludon pelipper volcarona Tauros rillaboom farigiraf are a few
Hisui typhlosion and whimsicott too
civic bobcat
Thanks a ton!
mighty stump
Just look at the usage stats
zinc totem
almost 1500
zinc totem
Bloodmoon gholdengo Archaludon pelipper volcarona Tauros rillaboom farigiraf are...
dont forget annihilape maushold
molten oasis
At least you haven’t fought Tera ground eq and rock slide annihilape with life orb
zinc totem
At least you haven’t fought Tera ground eq and rock slide annihilape with life o...
that feels like troll set
balmy glen
What’s the mark
zinc totem
What’s the mark
it has no mark
balmy glen
Rip
zinc totem
@balmy glen https://pokepast.es/2d229c7cf57a651b whacha think? 
molten oasis
i wonder if archa should have 0 or 31 speed IV <:Hmmge:1055914121633210532>
Usually max speed unless the Mon is under like, 50ish
Sometimes 60, if you’re armarouge 75 (I think)
zinc totem
Usually max speed unless the Mon is under like, 50ish
yeah. was more thinking cuz i got no speed iv in-game so
balmy glen
<@350152416815218688> https://pokepast.es/2d229c7cf57a651b whacha think? <:Sip...
What does Tera dark Pelipper do
Just for Psyspam ?
balmy glen
Why does Prankster taunt from Murkrow hurt ur team
U have an Archaludon which one shots it
zinc totem
Why does Prankster taunt from Murkrow hurt ur team
it ruins tailwind setup and wide guard
balmy glen
U want it to come in
Don’t give Murkrow more reasons not to come in make it feel invited so you get a free kill + electro shot lul
zinc totem
Don’t give Murkrow more reasons not to come in make it feel invited so you get a...
yeah and when it comes in, tries taunt i tera dark tailwind meaning it wastes taunt turn and i shot it without losing my tw and wide guard
balmy glen
I’m guessing ur playing bo1
zinc totem
bo1 and bo3 both running teams on them trying them out how they work
balmy glen
Also what Tera are you going to put on incin
zinc totem
Also what Tera are you going to put on incin
ghost
mighty stump
Also what Tera are you going to put on incin
Tera Fighting Close Combat Incineroar of course
balmy glen
Tera Fighting Close Combat Incineroar of course
Ur so right
zinc totem
Tera Fighting Close Combat Incineroar of course
i might be dumb but im not that dumb
torn parrot
haha
mighty stump
252 252 4 fighting Tera close combat
I unironically tried that next to Farigiraf with AV Incineroar it was so funny right @chrome knot
Most fun I had in Reg H so far
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/d1f66f55f418ba5d currently looking for 2 mons, 1 needs to be a fighting type and/or something to immediately threaten ttar kingambit, I’d like tailwind or redirection, I feel both fit the same bill. Thoughts on that?
molten oasis
I played flamigo for a little bit it was alright, idt it’s very good but it showed what I’m looking for
mighty stump
https://pokepast.es/d1f66f55f418ba5d currently looking for 2 mons, 1 needs to be...
Tera Fighting Blast Ninetales Alola
ez
zinc totem
@balmy glen anyway i got tera ghost for incineroar to avoid other fake out mons basically and then gambit scarf ape etc
molten oasis
Plz, staring at the builder isn’t getting me anywhere
torn parrot
i always get bullied in every chat i am in
mighty stump
252 Atk Maushold Low Kick (100 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Kingambit: 136-164 (65.7 - 79.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
yw
dull ibex
vc?
zinc totem
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2193705005 1500 elo finally
molten oasis
What’s with you and random fighting coverage on random mons lol
zinc totem
What’s with you and random fighting coverage on random mons lol
they are bullying me
mighty stump
Is it really random if it serves a purpose
zinc totem
thats whats
molten oasis
…
dull ibex
What’s with you and random fighting coverage on random mons lol
thinking anything tofu does is random
molten oasis
I like how my main 4 are rn, I’d rather not change them lol
mighty stump
I doubt you can condense "offensively good into Ttar/Kingamibit" and "redirection" that well
molten oasis
I have 2 open slots
mighty stump
molten oasis
I want 1 slot to threaten gambit
mighty stump
H-Arc does that?
molten oasis
And ttar, the other slot, eh kind has to be multiple things now that I think about it
molten oasis
H-Arc does that?
I haven’t felt that way that much
mighty stump
Alternatively, Mienshao support lol
molten oasis
eh ig I could play better into gambit
Ok then
I need tw or redirection and a dozo answer
And something for ttar
Ttar is still an issue
dull ibex
mighty stump
gg hax im win
molten oasis
I’ll think about what to place ig
zinc totem
but i guess i never get answer for the tera ghost inci
mighty stump
You're like growing the list of problems
zinc totem
i'll see myself out
molten oasis
…
mighty stump
<@350152416815218688> anyway i got tera ghost for incineroar to avoid other fake...
Tera Ghost is fine
molten oasis
I’m tired and I forgot the mu’s I keep losing to, and I just hardly have a dozo answer assuming I can manage to get 2 icy winds and a wisp off which has proven difficult
mighty stump
- TW
- Redirection
- Dondozo Answer
- Kingambit Answer
- Tyranitar Answer
dull ibex
why don't you need both?
molten oasis
You already explained harc handles gambit so now we’re down to 3
mighty stump
H-Arc/Hydreigon answers Kingambit especially with EP access. Kingambit also tends to be mono-dark so A9 is just safe into it, but you just can't touch it. You can also Encore lock it
molten oasis
I’ve been doing that yea, I think I need to play better into clef gambit stuff
mighty stump
It just sounds like you need Taunt or something.
mighty stump
Gholdengo + Electabuzz or Maushold with Taunt
Gholdengo deals with Ttar if you just click Supewr Fang and a MIR esp if you go +2
Or you go Amoonguss lol if you really want to condense redirection, Dondozo answer, and something for Ttar
molten oasis
Just as an addition I think follow me support would be a little nicer to help with Archa/ape
Ig amoonguss helps with Archa not as much ape since maus is typically goggles, I think
Anyway, I’ll try maus
dull ibex
whats the team btw
nocturne holly
Anyone have an sd chomp spread? Or dd
nocturne holly
The fuck
molten oasis
Uh, dozo, maybe amoonguss actually I have a line for mausape
mighty stump
I' just make sure I outspeed Glimmora.
molten oasis
Helps with Bloodmoon
dull ibex
tauros would help with mausape we had it for a bit
nocturne holly
I' just make sure I outspeed Glimmora.
Mk what do I try and live?
molten oasis
Tauros felt weird last time it was on the team idk
mighty stump
🤷♂️ I'm concerned about killing things
nocturne holly
Fair lol
dull ibex
why do you not want to put tailwind on hydreigon btw?
molten oasis
Earth power coverage helps for gambit
dull ibex
speed control helps alot here imo
don't you have moonblast i9 for gambit?
gambit isnt going tera steel or anything
molten oasis
If moonblasts drops spa on the gambit it just gets a +2 which makes my life a lot harder and it’s not like a9 hits very hard
So there’s a lot of chances for that to happen
dull ibex
we also have wisp here to deal with gambit better
molten oasis
If I can get it off
molten oasis
If clefable doesn’t redirect all my moves before hand
dull ibex
I feel earth power is a bit wasted slot here tbh
molten oasis
…I’m not adding tw earth power has been very helpful
dull ibex
ok good luck
molten oasis
Having 1 thing for gambit who’s been a major pain in the ass doesn’t sound like a great plan to me
dull ibex
well you could make a9 stronger if you insist on shackling yourself to meh mons
molten oasis
Fine let’s add tw
dull ibex
theres no harm in trying
molten oasis
Can’t wait to rely on Draco not missing to handle Archaludon
dull ibex
if you need an arch answer there's always bloodmoon
which also gives you a FAR better user of earth power as well for gambit
torpid fossil
Someone can give me a moveset of goodra hisui defensive pls
molten oasis
If I add Bloodmoon I immediately have to give up LORB to it
torpid fossil
Someone can give me a moveset of goodra hisui defensive pls
molten oasis
Max hp max defense iron defense body press heavy slam/flash cannon protect
molten oasis
How fast does maushold need to be
torpid fossil
But bro i needed special defensive goodra hisui pls send me moveset and evs pls
molten oasis
:/
torpid fossil
:/
dull ibex
But bro i needed special defensive goodra hisui pls send me moveset and evs pls
why do you need special defense
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
molten oasis
Why do you need spD investment on a Mon with 150 spD
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/77d721885e463ba6 now what
torpid fossil
Have only five and not goodra hisui
molten oasis
Nature? What
Goodra-Hisui @ Leftovers
Ability: Shell Armor
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Careful Nature
- Body Press
- Heavy Slam/Flash Cannon
- Protect
- Acid Armor/Iron Defense
There you go
torpid fossil
Ty
molten oasis
Wrong, sorry
torpid fossil
Ok no problem
molten oasis
ig I have super fang actually, idk what I need now
mighty stump
https://tofu-snorlax.hatenablog.com/entry/tofutable11 blogpost regarding reg H is up for those interested
zinc totem
ngl this team turned out great
bold geode
https://tofu-snorlax.hatenablog.com/entry/tofutable11 blogpost regarding reg H i...
Took long enough 
mighty stump
it's pretty condensed and a bit rushed but eh
molten oasis
I bet the blog is just fine anyway
karmic temple
Babe wake up there’s a new tofu post
molten oasis
Good blog fun read
bold geode
Babe wake up there’s a new tofu post
You talking to Incineroar or
karmic temple
You talking to Incineroar or
how did you know
bold geode
<:GengHeart:674147120634396672> how did you know
Im just goated with the sauce
Baby Gronk said so
solid frigate
dull ibex
heatwave did 10%
zinc totem
doing BO3 haha
dull ibex
@molten oasis im taking your advice
molten oasis
I got a 30% hit rate with Draco meteor
molten oasis
<@465881273454559252> im taking your advice
What advice?
dull ibex
pult for sun
molten oasis
Ah
dull ibex
tofu's blog changed my mind
torn parrot
im gonna miss tera
solid frigate
im gonna miss tera
sad
torn parrot
pokemon with visual items is actually hilarious
solid frigate
pokemon with visual items is actually hilarious
Teh Lore Accurate Rillaboom
molten oasis
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2193767594-ofcj3f9ck6434p67qh1ic44bhvwnspspw hydrei maushold really clutched up endgame there
torn parrot
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2193767594-ofcj3f9ck6434p67qh...
what a cool way of killing dondozo
zinc totem
ngl this team turned out great
i didnt notice how strong meow is in this team. Thanks to u-turn i can lead with meow and azu, u-turn lets me bring rain for azu to hit hard before azu moves 
molten oasis
what a cool way of killing dondozo
Yea too bad 2 games later I lose to stall because Draco and super fang miss
Which I was otherwise GOING TO WIN
boreal musk
Someone knows a good team with flattermane?
dull ibex
Someone knows a good team with flattermane?
Not legal
molten oasis
Idk if you were watching Maya or not
You have proof my rng is awful
Cuz I was fine, if MY DRACO’S FUCKING HIT
torn parrot
Cuz I was fine, if MY DRACO’S FUCKING HIT
Admittedly I did see the Thunderbolt para into full para lol
molten oasis
Don’t worry for every win I get I run into kingambit
Or miss my moves, or run into shit I cannot handle
torn parrot
Tbh
Kingambit is really scary even when you have a counter
😔
Those swords dances are scary
molten oasis
Well I mean
I’d love a FIGHTING TYPE but nah
Apparently all we need is harc according to tofu (I’m figuring out its positioning slowly)
I’m gonna stop for a little while
I wanna look over the team more
torn parrot
Kk
solid frigate
bold geode
I’d love a FIGHTING TYPE but nah
Hehehe guess who
molten oasis
Hehehe guess who
solid frigate
lol
mighty stump
I’d love a FIGHTING TYPE but nah
I mean I suggested other things lol
Low Kick Ttar is also unironically good into Kingambit
Mirror Herb Tauros
Mienshao if you need support
molten oasis
Was gonna say ttar and a9 seems weird
mighty stump
Clefable beats monodark Kingambit
molten oasis
So does a9, it’s more like, av sets I’m worried about
and usually I can’t get harc to wisp
Because it either 1, misses cuz this game hates me 
, or 2 it died before it got the chance
bold geode
https://pokepast.es/b7f6f227ff0b0ad1
Tofu if I don't get Sneasler working I'm running Ape Smeargle with Beat Up 
molten oasis
Maushold is RIGHT there bro
molten oasis
Or just Tauros
Does this team need fake out is more my question
bold geode
Lmao
Follow Me/Wide Guard/Beat Up +1
Fuck Psyspam
Fuck Sun
And most of all
Fuck
You
molten oasis
solid frigate
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2193821878
Pelipper moment
zinc totem
what are these team in cart ladder
rocky helmet high horse power swampert ttar talonflame and rillaboom
solid frigate
rocky helmet high horse power swampert ttar talonflame and rillaboom
welcome to Reg H where weird Team comps exists more than Reg F-G
molten oasis
rocky helmet high horse power swampert ttar talonflame and rillaboom
Bo1 ladder is just gonna be miserable man lol
Cart and showdown
solid frigate
it is incredibly Miserable
zinc totem
i lost to it cuz didnt expect swampert pull rocky elm offence lol
5 wins 2 loss so far
torn parrot
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2193821878
Pelipper moment
AYO
ITS TERA GROUND TERA BLAST CHOICE SPECS ADAPTABIKITY PORYGON Z
bold geode
I hope Sneasler works first though cuz I like Electabuzz a lot but MausApe could work
torn parrot
252+ SpA Choice Specs Adaptability Porygon-Z Tera Blast (80 BP) vs. 252 HP / 100 SpD Torkoal: 180-212 (101.6 - 119.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
O:
bold geode
@mighty stump does the Maushold need to be max speed Jolly?
torn parrot
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2193821878
Pelipper moment
How in the fuck did you win this…
That was doomed in every possible way
solid frigate
ITS TERA GROUND TERA BLAST CHOICE SPECS ADAPTABIKITY PORYGON Z
its Lorb but eh
torn parrot
Porygon z is strong I wanan use him
solid frigate
How in the fuck did you win this…
idk why he did not attack Greninja
like 100% you attack Greninja cuz it threatens Dengo
oh wait nvm wrong replayt
chrome knot
252+ SpA Choice Specs Adaptability Porygon-Z Tera Blast (80 BP) vs. 252 HP / 100...
this just in: low SpDef mon dies to 3 multipliers
torn parrot
this just in: low SpDef mon dies to 3 multipliers
zinc totem
they always ragequit but 7 wins 3 losses is not bad
torn parrot
they always **ragequit** but 7 wins 3 losses is not bad
Nice job!
zinc totem
okay scarf gambit with maus lead huh
population bomb maus surprise factor
special dodonzo is so weeird
surf terablast lmao
zinc totem
Yeah that’s pretty annoying
yeah that was so weird. like maus population bomb sweeper with scarf gambit maus and special dozo
knotty mirage
I wonder with mausape everywhere is it good idea to use hisuan zoroark
forest arrow
they always **ragequit** but 7 wins 3 losses is not bad
Congrats
solid frigate
dull ibex
Can you guys help me figure out when to outrage vs to darts
solid frigate
Can you guys help me figure out when to outrage vs to darts
i mean if you wanna nuke it quick
woven hinge
i have some pokemon with bad abilities and i need a pokemon with skill swap, what are the best ones?
torn parrot
Hey babe
Looking cute today :3
Your not rillaboom anymore
bold geode
I haven't been Rillaboom for a minute
solid frigate
I haven't been Rillaboom for a minute
bold geode
I had to dig for this pfp lol
forest arrow
New pfp goes hard
solid frigate
I had to dig for this pfp lol
just use the AV Rilla lol
bold geode
New pfp goes hard
It's an old commission from someone lol
forest arrow
It's an old commission from someone lol
No I met you when you had this one lol, I’m talking about mine
I always love the monke pfps lol
bold geode
Ah lol
forest arrow
Ttar ☺️
true niche
Incineroar isn't the best mon in reg h?
bold geode
Incineroar isn't the best mon in reg h?
Rillaboom best Mon imo
balmy glen
wheres the miracle seed variant
solid frigate
wheres the miracle seed variant
idk lmao
dull ibex
Rillaboom best Mon imo
Clefable for me so far
zinc totem
okay is max speed psyspam new psyspam?
these ouitspeed my max speed pelipper and hisui deci
molten oasis
Ah yes the salty dondozo player that got mad I hit my willo wisps
Then goes “deserved” after predictably I lost due to harc missing rock slide
torn parrot
Showdown players are dicks and angry so
I mute them all
And it makes existing a lot nicer
It’s bennificial for your mental health to not know what competitive players on the ladder have to say
balmy glen
Oh I love when people try to be annoying on showdown lol
bold geode
Keanu loves the trash talk
zinc totem
Oh I love when people try to be annoying on showdown lol
its fun cuz they get salty and when rng is on their side they're like "im better player nub"
balmy glen
Keanu loves the trash talk
After coming from professional pubg and the all chat of scrimmages/public matches… yes… I love trash talk
none of these players would say it to my face in a tournament tho so rip
bold geode
Lmao me too honestly
chrome knot
none of these players would say it to my face in a tournament tho so rip
coming in FLYING to call you a poopyhead bruh watch out
bold geode
I remember one dude being like "I bet you drink soy milk latte, go enjoy your soy milk latte" like ok mfer I will
I literally just make fun of them when they rage lmao
dull ibex
I remember one dude being like "I bet you drink soy milk latte, go enjoy your so...
hola soy milk
bold geode
Hola soiled
balmy glen
coming in FLYING to call you a poopyhead bruh watch out
Oh no it’s so over
spiral ridge
forest arrow
Hola soiled
Hola bebè
forest arrow
A little Spanish hehe
bold geode
I can order Taco Bell
forest arrow
Omg 🤣🤣
bold geode
The only Spanish word I use nowadays is taco
forest arrow
What’s funny is I just doordashed some Taco Bell
bold geode
Fuck now I want tacos
forest arrow
Will be here in like 10 mins LMAO
dull ibex
Hola soiled
like your rizz
chrome knot
Trash talk only funny when they’re losing
u smel bad :3
torn parrot
u smel bad :3
I smell fantastic
chrome knot
stimky
misty helm
can someone explain how this happened isn't dragonite impossible to ohko also how did my ribombee survive dragonite's extreme speed
next stump
+1 STAB moonblast will easily OHKO unless they’re multiscale
torn parrot
can someone explain how this happened isn't dragonite impossible to ohko also ho...
It’s not that hard to live that without a choice band or tera normal
next stump
also yeah extreme speed is 80BP only, easy move to live if they don’t have modifiers on it like tera or an item
misty helm
It’s not that hard to live that without a choice band or tera normal
so it wasn't choice banded is the sum of how I took the hit
torn parrot
so it wasn't choice banded is the sum of how I took the hit
Yeah
misty helm
+1 STAB moonblast will easily OHKO unless they’re multiscale
also would that have been an ohko with multiscale I'm confused
torn parrot
It’s it’s a ko without multi scale
misty helm
It’s it’s a ko without multi scale
okay why would this person run inner focus rather than multi scale
especially on a dragonite that starts with multi scale to begin with
torn parrot
okay why would this person run inner focus rather than multi scale
I dunno it’s just what he wanted to do I guess
chrome knot
me when i ask a shit load of singles questions to all vgc players
exotic crown
can someone explain how this happened isn't dragonite impossible to ohko also ho...
you used a fary type move and dragonite is dragon
torn parrot
I played this team too much
misty helm
I happily admit my favorite starter is a good glimmora anti lead
chrome knot
I played this team too much
carrying ribombee stats on ur back
misty helm
top level entertainment
chrome knot
man singles looks soo fun
nocturne holly
I’m trying my best to sit through Ms marvel
Isn’t that show like
terrible
torn parrot
Isn’t that show like
terrible
I want to catch up with mcu so badly 😭
I wanna enjoy this show so badly but I’m just so bored
torn parrot
Loki is my favorite thing mcu has made
nocturne holly
And I think honestly that’s everything good and most of the basics for phase 5
Loki was so good
I’m also waiting on another season of invincible fr
misty helm
man singles looks soo fun
are you being sarcastic
torn parrot
man singles looks soo fun
I think 3v3 is the best way to experience singles
stall is less of an issue
torn parrot
Yeah it is
Tbh singles feels like an incomplete game
Well if basically is
Cus like half of all mechanics are locked behind doubles
misty helm
why is 99 percent of the story singles if the battle gameplay is supposed to revolve around doubles
torn parrot
why is 99 percent of the story singles if the battle gameplay is supposed to rev...
Because that’s how pokemon started and that’s the simplest version of the game
But competitive is supposed to be doubles
chrome knot
why is 99 percent of the story singles if the battle gameplay is supposed to rev...
simple to understand
balmy glen
💀
vagrant crown
Only switch pokemon game i got and im not sure if its worth to buy scarlet and violet when a nee one is prolly maybe dropping soon??
mighty stump
Well if you want to do comp you still have a years worth of it out of this game at least
foggy lodge
yep
vagrant crown
Well if you want to do comp you still have a years worth of it out of this game ...
Wait its gonna takr a year for the next game im hella out of the loop but wasnt sv a while ago?
foggy lodge
Maybe 2026 will be played in SV but i doubt
next stump
2 years almost
torn parrot
Wait its gonna takr a year for the next game im hella out of the loop but wasnt ...
I heard that gamefreak is taking much longer on the next game
Cus of complaints
vagrant crown
Wait that's good tho
dull ibex
Only switch pokemon game i got and im not sure if its worth to buy scarlet and v...
a new one isnt due out til 2026
next stump
we have no word on the next mainline game and competitive pokemon was not played on Legends Arceus so it probably wont be played on Legends ZA either
vagrant crown
If they make the next games like harder I'm going w a wait
torn parrot
Wait that's good tho
Yeah
mighty stump
Lol
dull ibex
you don't want them harder or you do?
torn parrot
It won’t be harder
foggy lodge
if you want to play competitively SV is good
torn parrot
Maybe it’ll be harder
dull ibex
still wont be difficult though
mighty stump
No unga bunga max moves to bail out bad piloting
solid frigate
dull ibex
No unga bunga max moves to bail out bad piloting
Me with cinderace:
bold geode
No unga bunga max moves to bail out bad piloting
Thank God
solid frigate
Whimsicott:
shrewd karma
tail glow + baton pass
shrewd karma
rage powder
solid frigate
Rillaboom:
shrewd karma
amoonguss
solid frigate
Safety Googles Incineroar
solid frigate
not really
shrewd karma
all other tailwind mons are screwed by taunt though…
solid frigate
Not really with Prankster ones
foggy lodge
But Volbeat has prankster
solid frigate
Volbeat can't do damage right?
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
foggy lodge
Nope it can't
nocturne holly
Volbeat is like mid torn
solid frigate
Whims and Torn can do damage so its kinda fine against Taunt
cyan smelt
Lolbeat
foggy lodge
Its still bad idk what's the good thing about a mon that requires 2 turns set up to work when is such a frail pokemon
nocturne holly
It was like used everywhere during kitikami prologue
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
nocturne holly
Oh wow that’s decent
foggy lodge
also after the baton pass it kinda becomes useless
cyan smelt
Literally just use smeargle with tail glow and baton pass
solid frigate
also after the baton pass it kinda becomes useless
yeah exactly
nocturne holly
Lol yea
Except it has prankster
You really need redirection if you’re doing something with it
cyan smelt
Smeargle has moody so you can baton pass its stat boosts
foggy lodge
You really need redirection if you’re doing something with it
And that point you have 0 offensive pressure
nocturne holly
Smeargle has moody so you can baton pass its stat boosts
Yea true
Does baton pass pass negative changes too
cyan smelt
Yes
foggy lodge
Yes
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
foggy lodge
in general baton pass is not really good in vgc the only time i remember it was used was in gen 7 because of Eevee Z move
nocturne holly
Yea
foggy lodge
And it was used in Indeedee to have a pivot option after setting Trick room
torn parrot
One time I played a game where someone tried to do the swagger mirror herb strat with a hitmonchan and vol beat then they missed the swagger and said something along the lines of “you lucky bitch”
And then ironically proceeded to spam swagger on me to try to get confuse luck and rely completely on luck the entire rest of the game and then lost lol
I had forgot to mute showdown
foggy lodge
lmao
solid frigate
moment
cyan smelt
How do you mute showdown?
nocturne holly
Or the hisuian one THAT SHIT WAS HEAT
nocturne holly
swagger like amoonguss then mirror herb on sneasler+2 and you also have the ability thing procced
Unburden I think
Actually I wanna cook with sneasler
torn parrot
you can mute showdown?
Yeah you can set it to where you don’t see messages for any of your games
It’s under battle settings
solid frigate
swagger like amoonguss then mirror herb on sneasler+2 and you also have the abil...
the doubles dynamic we love to see
nocturne holly
I think sneasler indeedee has more potential with hh and redirection
solid frigate
fair
nocturne holly
Then you can also do tr shit
Shit I’m going back to sneasler
I ran a sneasler darkshifu team which was like I think my best performing team in reg e or something
foggy lodge
7-2 lol
nocturne holly
1700 I think
cyan smelt
That's a cool team
solid frigate
its interesting
torn parrot
It’s a really cool team
foggy lodge
Thoughts? https://pokepast.es/09d77ea46a6d16fc
I had the idea of weather ball gastrodon for rain and then i remembered that sand is a rock type weather and not a ground type weather lol
nocturne holly
I think skeledirge has a lot of potential
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
torn parrot
Thoughts? https://pokepast.es/09d77ea46a6d16fc
Has it been working well? I think it looks pretty awesome
nocturne holly
But yawn and slack krd on it is cool
torn parrot
I remember skelidirge was an early reg A menace
foggy lodge
Has it been working well? I think it looks pretty awesome
haven't played with it
Maybe tomorrow i could start playing if i have time
I think the team is cool but obviously i have to actually play it
dreamy drum
Can anyone help me Redo my EV spread for my level 100 Arcanine? Message me for more information
faint cedar
What's the best Tera for Safety Goggles Incineroar?
solid frigate
Ghost
faint cedar
considering I dont need Grass for spore immunity
solid frigate
or Water
faint cedar
Okok thank you
dull ibex
https://pokepast.es/cd2b471ab0d2d563 Gave them fun names
dull ibex
weegeecee
bold geode
Weegeecee
dull ibex
vc?
solid frigate
I'm in another VC in the Server
bold geode
Sure
dull ibex
theres some brainrot i gotta show you monke
bold geode
Oh no
solid frigate
reg h finally here nd i got like no time to play it rn
I'm just making a Greninja Team and after that I am skipping reg H
foggy lodge
i hate cts stalwart meteor beam power herb archaludon oneshotted my volca
chrome knot
that was uber specific LMFAO
solid frigate
i hate cts stalwart meteor beam power herb archaludon oneshotted my volca
what the fu-
torn parrot
Cap mons look fucking bad
They don’t even look alive
They look like blobs of nothing
torn parrot
Never let pokemon fans design pokemon
They’ll either make them look like horrible messes
Or they’ll make them super op because they have competitive brain
Absolutely horrendous
torn parrot
LMFAO what are these things
Freaks of nature
Istg they’re so bad at designing pokemon
I don’t wanna catch any of these mfs on my playthrough
None of them could be my friend
That’s like the one rule of Pokémon
It has to look like it could be your friend
solid frigate
Meowscarada and Raging bolt are like:WTF are those
forest arrow
everyone left
solid frigate
left
forest arrow
about shower and get ready for bed anyways ill be down to vc longer this weekend or after work tomorrow
bold geode
Ok
forest arrow
he said bye monke and dipped
solid frigate
about shower and get ready for bed anyways ill be down to vc longer this weekend...
i'm free for 5 days so yeah same
rustic mountain
I'm just making a Greninja Team and after that I am skipping reg H
forest arrow
yeah i finally got some free time
bold geode
he said bye monke and dipped
Ah
I love you babe
forest arrow
Ah
I love you babe
I love you too babe
bold geode
<:Budgetkekhands:815438617630867477>
Mr Tree
rustic mountain
I love you too babe
so sweet im gna puke
bold geode
Tree y'know what had me dying
rustic mountain
?
bold geode
|| Fuckin Megumi's letter bruh ||
rustic mountain
hahah yea
solid frigate
<:Budgetkekhands:815438617630867477>
kinda just wanna goof around
rustic mountain
that was funny
bold geode
|| "Yeah your dad got shit on my boy, sorry bout that" ||
rustic mountain
kinda just wanna goof around
fair enough
rustic mountain
|| "Yeah your dad got shit on my boy, sorry bout that" || <:KekHands:12512946864...
i mean he was being honest
bold geode
Lmao
He was honest
rustic mountain
thats gojo
bold geode
|| So what happened to Sukuna || ?
rustic mountain
|| So what happened to Sukuna || ?
its ||joever for him he got offered to be absorbed into yuji and declined, he just died out||
bold geode
its ||joever for him he got offered to be absorbed into yuji and declined, he ju...
|| Oh so he basically got like FMAB Envy vibes, dying in a little ugly mfer ||
rustic mountain
being a ||cursed object he needed that host to continue living, once yuji split him off from megumi he had no other options||
bold geode
Bro said I'd rather die frfr
rustic mountain
|| Oh so he basically got like FMAB Envy vibes, dying in a little ugly mfer ||
p much yea
rustic mountain
Bro said I'd rather die frfr
stuck to his ideology haha
but yea 3 more chps this shit gna end so badly
bold geode
Honestly
I be like
Making it end with an ass ending
Gege tormenting us one last time 
rustic mountain
overall i think it was ight but a lot of ||the culling games and the sukuna gauntlet was poorly handled, we got very little backstory on the 2 main villians, side characters thrown back in lazily after either being claimed dead (nobara) or mia (todo) we got sorcrerers popping up who werent even in the story (miguel and his friend), characters weve known for like 2 seconds getting spotlight vs sukuna (kashimo and higurama) lack of emotional payoff because of lack of backing in the plot itself like theres literally so much that was handled really badly towards the middle-ending for me||
bold geode
overall i think it was ight but a lot of ||the culling games and the sukuna gaun...
Tbh it felt like pulling stuff out the ass
Feel like after || Gojo vs Sukuna || Gege just lost what he should do lol
rustic mountain
honestly yea
even before that tbh
but after that i think it become much more apparent
bold geode
Well the thing is that fight technically was foreshadowed at the start of the series
Like you could figure it would've happened inevitably
rustic mountain
||ofc its gna take a lot to take sukuna down but at the end it wound up kinda being an asspull anyway so i think the sequencing and how things were paced/handled couldve made it so much better||
chrome knot
hi tree
rustic mountain
i literally ||wanted nobara to live and still found her insert back in the story super lazy and unearned in so many ways||
bold geode
i literally ||wanted nobara to live and still found her insert back in the story...
Oh yeah she was definitely thrown in
I also hate how || basically none of the Hakari vs Uraume fight was even shown ||
bold geode
Although both of them were shirtless so uh
Care to explain there
rustic mountain
fuckin gege one eyed cat motherfucker
bold geode
Still just like
At least give us a LITTLE BIT of that fight bruh
rustic mountain
he technically did
still really wasnt much
shit like that can be done well too, oda has done it quite a few times. gege is jus not him
bold geode
Yeah
But also like
|| Kashimo also didn't get too much spotlight though lmao, we hyped that mfer up for nothin ||
bold geode
I mean that fight was good but the one vs || Sukuna || ? Nah fam lmao
rustic mountain
certified ass cheeks
bold geode
Certified house of a breakfast variety
dull ibex
ill be back to vc when we can get a more serious vgc discussion going
bold geode
Me and you could?
dull ibex
are you asking?
bold geode
Yeah
dull ibex
sure for a bit im not doing anything anymore
bold geode
Pog
torn parrot
You notice that whenever someone gets the power of healing suddenly they get their limbs torn off like every second of every day
torn parrot
Look
Deadpool was literally chilling
And then he got his powers
And then gets decapitated every other day
molten oasis
lol true
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/1b39a413928b94fe looking at trying out a core more like this, im kinda finding hydrei to be meh, so im restarting at harc/dengo/a9 which i was finding good already
torn parrot
Look they don’t even have faces wtf is this
molten oasis
Amoonguss being the anti dozo guy, and redirection
molten oasis
Look they don’t even have faces wtf is this
Where’s the fan game they’re from lol
torn parrot
Where’s the fan game they’re from lol
Custome showdown competitive mons
molten oasis
Ah
torn parrot
For CAP competitive format
torn parrot
https://pokepast.es/1b39a413928b94fe looking at trying out a core more like this...
What direction you gonna go in this time?
molten oasis
I’m not sure yet
Amoonguss is a way to manage kingambit, harc helps too
Helps for ttar as well
Dozo answer is amoonguss too
Bloodmoon doesn’t look awful here
psyspam, hm
https://pokepast.es/13337352d4f68a05 maybe a different hydrei set would be fine
Oh I should bulk it up
If I’m going cloak
https://pokepast.es/734748795ed6bc45 thoughts on a 6th?
torn parrot
https://pokepast.es/734748795ed6bc45 thoughts on a 6th?
What about ape
I know it’s random
But could do bulk up under screens maybe
molten oasis
molten oasis
eh
i understand the reasoning
i dont really get rage fist
which i feel is why you use annihilape
torn parrot
which i feel is why you use annihilape
It’s also a great way to beat incin
Damn actually you really do need something to beat incin
I guess you have rock slide
Damn I really feel like a Fighting type is just perfect huh
Just slots in perfectly
torn parrot
The options are thin sadly
torn parrot
eh i mean, i guess annihilape is fine here
Mienshao is pretty good
Hisuian decidueye
Hell I mean
I even seen pawmot get used
knotty mirage
Does anyone know how viable metagross in reg H is it good or it just mid and gimmicky at best ?
mighty stump
Does anyone know how viable metagross in reg H is it good or it just mid and gim...
You could try Mence + Gross
knotty mirage
Is it salamance and metagross ? Because how they could synergyze well tho
mighty stump
Bulldoze + Weakness Policy Clear body
knotty mirage
Oh weakness policy set okay then
Should i give metagross some speed EV for it too work tho or speed is just unnecessary on metagross
mighty stump
I’d probably do a bit of speed to perhaps outpace something like max spe Glimmora
knotty mirage
I mean max speed metagross would never outspeed max speed glimmora anyway i'm not sure
And i don't know how many speed EV needed for metagross to outspeed -1 speed glim that is
mighty stump
I mean max speed metagross would never outspeed max speed glimmora anyway i'm no...
I meant at -1
Just look at up
iirc
Glimmora hits 151
So you go
-calc 151x0.67
gentle cragBOT
Result: 101.170000
mighty stump
So you need to go 102
knotty mirage
So 102 speed EV okay then
knotty mirage
Oh let me check then
Okay so i already check according to showdown it need 100 speed EV to get into 103 speed stat
mighty stump
Okay so i already check according to showdown it need 100 speed EV to get into 1...
Okay so you go 92 lor
Since you need 102
knotty mirage
So like this ?
Metagross @ Weakness policy
Ability: Clear body
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 160 HP / 252 Atk / 92 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Meteor mash
- Bullet punch
- Pshycic fang
- Protect
chrome knot
tera normal weakness policy explosion
chrome knot
yeah
knotty mirage
I think i see the explosion one more often with choice band which is kinda sucks because ghost type or protect
knotty mirage
Just keep in mind if you Tera Grass you're still weak to Fire moves
So is it better to go for tera water instead then
mighty stump
So is it better to go for tera water instead then
I'd even consider Tera Fire so you can still have a defensive Tera + trigger WP anyways
knotty mirage
With how many earthquake and rock slide spam on this reg yeah i don't think it's good idea
mighty stump
With how many earthquake and rock slide spam on this reg yeah i don't think it's...
What earthquake LOL
knotty mirage
Kinda seeing it alot on garchomp
chrome knot
guys who is clicking eq
wait that’s funny af you say rhat tofu and i tabbed back into your team
knotty mirage
Kek
solid frigate
kek
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/734748795ed6bc45 thoughts on a 6th? thinking maybe an offensive physical attacker but im unsure
timber falcon
idk if its a problem but there arent too many ways to hit incin
also FO could be nice with dengo
molten oasis
Ig I didn’t think about incin huh
dull ibex
Hello
bold geode
Hola soy latte
https://pokepast.es/fa6edf9d4ac1bcfc
@mighty stump does this team look alright or
mighty stump
https://pokepast.es/fa6edf9d4ac1bcfc
<@250386799363489808> does this team look a...
hydreigon blows so much
bold geode
Is it cheeks?
dull ibex
vc?
molten oasis
hydreigon blows so much
Hydreigons bad?
mighty stump
Is it cheeks?
looks cheeks to me
dull ibex
haha temtem
bold geode
Wait so is it cheeks or is the set cheeks
dull ibex
tofu doesnt like hydreigon
mighty stump
looks
molten oasis
…
dull ibex
vc is opne
molten oasis
So hydreigon is bad
bold geode
Oh you don't like Hydreigon lmao
dull ibex
(let tofu speak for himself)
bold geode
Is this just design preference or the actual Mon itself
molten oasis
Lmfao
dull ibex
yall are dumb LMFAO
molten oasis
Ok red then you tell us
mighty stump
Loses to Clef
dull ibex
bro he said hydreigon sucks like five time
molten oasis
I heard him the first time
indigo pulsar
I need a Pokémon idea that can help me. I need something that resists Dark & Water type moves while being able to set up Electric Terrain & Taunt.
dull ibex
true monke is more dumb then you true
bold geode
Stfu Drago
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/30fad3bc74d870b2 anyway i need a 6th, thoughts?
I haven’t been finding hydreigon good
no it’s not cuz of what tofu said the core already felt lacking yesterday
chrome knot
dull ibex
deserved tbh jkjk
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/17f56cf990d533e8 you guys think basc or palafin could work in the 6th slot?
gentle cragBOT
Result: 214.500000
spiral ridge
molten oasis
The Minecraft movie is, looking to be, something
torn parrot
You know what I wanna play
Max speed max special attack tera electric archaludon
Timid
mighty stump
Max speed max special attack tera electric archaludon
Run Stalwart, run Stellar, run Life Orb
You’re welcome
torn parrot
Lol thank you
mighty stump
I have the Stalwart OTS I used on the blog
molten oasis
@bold geode can you open up vc?
dull ibex
<@817628066020065280> can you open up vc?
Join
bold geode
dull ibex
Mini Sigma
bold geode
For my gyatt
molten oasis
Twitter
forest arrow
@bold geode open for me pees
bold geode
Just a sec
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
torn parrot
WAIT NO
+1!!
damnit
it still doesntv killnvm
+1 252+ SpA Tera Ground Frosmoth Tera Blast (80 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Incineroar: 168-200 (83.1 - 99%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
damnit
it isnt frosmoth who failed me
it's just incin whos stats are too good
@molten oasis
play frosmoth
((:
torn parrot
<:VulpixUpset:919918430801506304>
cus its goofy
tranquil kraken
If you know it’s not for trading don’t post trade offers here
molten oasis
making a frosmoth team seems kinda fun
How’s this going?
dull ibex
Weegeecee?
solid frigate
ok i genuinely hate Reg H
none of my teams are working unless i play badly which is probably the reason
kindred cypress
foggy lodge
bold geode
Weegeecee?
Weegeecee?
@dull ibex time for weegeecee, war stays mogging bro
If no weegeecee, I'll Skibidi the entire globe
dull ibex
Are you asking me to vc
bold geode
Were you asking earlier?
dull ibex
No....
bold geode
Oh
dull ibex
I'll be on in one second
bold geode
bold geode
@mighty stump I got a Duraludon from Drayton and it's Tera Electric and has Stalwart
molten oasis
<@250386799363489808> I got a Duraludon from Drayton and it's Tera Electric and ...
Use it no balls
dull ibex
@mighty stump is spikes on glimm for goldenwind ho a mistake?
dull ibex
Use it no balls
he can't use it
molten oasis
That’s lame
next stump
https://x.com/riopaser/status/1830975556994900177?s=46&t=fDxHQLlKCKU_ddfszOAZ6w
Anyone have the paste for this first team with Volc?
Twitter
bold geode
Anybody got TTar spread?
chrome knot
in a jam or?
bold geode
What
molten oasis
Anybody got TTar spread?
252 hp 252 att 4 in whatever you need
bold geode
Ah
torn parrot
@molten oasis someone beat me to it I don’t wanna double dip
rustic mountain
https://youtu.be/m4KV-wug4IM?si=W5GW5PDf_Dj-f7mO
incin is still good lmao
torn parrot
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/42c8fbbf38632fbf thoughts on this guys?
torn parrot
😔
molten oasis
https://youtu.be/8RUzmz82YQE?si=qqedh5OpNIjZRLTx
I saw that, my interest diminished immediately lol
rustic mountain
https://pokepast.es/42c8fbbf38632fbf thoughts on this guys?
reason for basculegion and mienshao?
bold geode
https://pokepast.es/b6e39d606424859d
Aight fuck it how's this guys
molten oasis
reason for basculegion and mienshao?
Water coversge for ground/fire types to protect dengo, mienshao for fighting coverage and fo
Fast ghost also threatens ghosts
The first 4 look ok?
rustic mountain
yea
i jus dont love basculegion no rain
and mienshao doesnt seem quite right here for me
molten oasis
I haven’t figured out anything else so far
Mienshao was a suggestions tofu made a little while ago
rustic mountain
https://pokepast.es/b6e39d606424859d
Aight fuck it how's this guys
seems ok, i feel like ttar is kinda an odd man out but its prolly good enough cuz its so strong
molten oasis
Basc was just something I wanted to look at
rustic mountain
i think its a strong option im jus not convinced onnit on non rain
could b wrong try it out
bold geode
seems ok, i feel like ttar is kinda an odd man out but its prolly good enough cu...
It's just a replacement Dark type for Psyspam cuz Tofu said Hydreigon sucks
rustic mountain
idt hydreigon sucks
but yea fair enough
i think it works. u dont necessarily need something for it to enable
rustic mountain
i meant more like chomp or exca/lycan. i dont find that arcanine benefits much from sand buff
but it enables itself
bold geode
Harc was just Intimidate + strong Fire type lol
rustic mountain
and i think generally thats enough plus u counter opposing weather
bold geode
Although I could use like Breaking Swipe TTar and go something else
rustic mountain
ttar gets breaking swipe?
molten oasis
i think its a strong option im jus not convinced onnit on non rain
What would you add to the 4 assuming no shao/basc?
bold geode
TTar does get Breaking Swipe and I believe Snarl too
rustic mountain
yea i knew it got snarl. swipe seems bad onnit
mighty stump
Snarltar is good
rustic mountain
What would you add to the 4 assuming no shao/basc?
honestly if u want a fake out +fighting type why not try pawmot? also get electric coverage + potential revival
mighty stump
Imo I think adaptability scarf basc is good
bold geode
Snarl Tar good? So what you're saying is I can use Snarl Tar against Psyspam?
molten oasis
I can try pawmot, not against that
molten oasis
Psyspam mu gets kinda weird with my team
mighty stump
rank 1 team used tera fire
bold geode
rank 1 team used tera fire
I just had Tera Fairy so it could be used against like Kingambit and Volcarona
mighty stump
go ahead
bold geode
https://pokepast.es/b6e39d606424859d
Aight fuck it how's this guys
Anyways this look aight Tofu?
rustic mountain
Imo I think adaptability scarf basc is good
ive been wrong before
jus hasnt been impressive enough the times ive encountered it
molten oasis
I feel like basc helps a lot with the stuff dengo doesn’t like, threatening volc and incin is nice
Oh ig that was the other thing shao was doing, incin check
mighty stump
still looks weird
bold geode
How it look weird
rustic mountain
for me its that u have mons that fit usually on different archetypes but on the same one
mighty stump
and then slapped MausApe on it
rustic mountain
like mausape usually is w/ 2-2-2 or like arch rain stuff
mighty stump
and it doesnt seem quite clear why yoi have those picks
bold geode
Fuck imma just start over, I failed at Sneasler and it all went downhill
Sneasler was not great, Hydreigon is bad, fuckin everything is bad
bold geode
I guess I'll go back to Sneasler and try Dire Claw
I had Unburden but it just got underwhelming
Idk I fucking love Gastrodon rn
rustic mountain
im not saying u gta keep playing it haha
sneasler is situational, its not picking up 1hkos generally
bold geode
I just
Idk what I wanna do
rustic mountain
more jus been disruptive to me can outspeed stuff in tw w/ unburden
rustic mountain
I just
Idk what I wanna do
well thats a big aspect u need to address haha
tofu was right this reg is more intentional then ever
bold geode
I make stuff that does good and then just immediately does shit within fucking hours like wtf
rustic mountain
rn for me it feels like
no matter the team, ur gna have 1 or 2 mus that are generally not favorable. so if u hit those mus u gta play out of ur mind to have a chance
which is weird cuz usually lower power formats dont have that issue. not atleast to this extent
bold geode
Yeah but my worst MU was Clef balance with Sneasler somehow, and that just fucking sucks
rustic mountain
i gta test that team out
but on paper it seems to have some not great mus itself
bold geode
I just fucking hate this Reg
rustic mountain
ur this reg
bold geode
I do hate myself sometimes true
rustic mountain
yea i think its still early even tho its been a month since it went up on sd. its not as good of a format as ppl thought originally
foggy lodge
but why yall hate it?
solid frigate
my friend still thinks Supreme Overlord Gambit is strong-
Dude use DEFIANT
foggy lodge
too limited? Broken mons? Or something more?