#competitive_discussion
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Yeah
Now the one I don't see the vision on is that fucking Hyper Beam set 
Hyper Beam Caly????
W h a t
Deadass some people on Twitter were mentioning a set rarely seen going around (a few people ran it, it wasn't mainstream)
It was Tera Normal, Astral Barrage Hyper Beam Protect and either Nasty Plot or Agility
Kek
what the hell-
And to this day, it's the one moment as a Zamazenta main where I wish I could fight a CSR
Sure you do sureeee
Lmao
I legit just want to witness someone using that set in a game lmao
Go play bo1 reg g
Idc if I lose that one, I just wanna see it with my own two eyes
You’ll find it
I think it was actually used in one of the VR tours
I actually think that's where it came from
huh
https://pokepast.es/5e0a8c9f2724cdc6 i've been trying this team out in ladder, but i feel like I can find a better 6th than primarina, I'm not bringing it as much as I thought I would. Any ideas would be really helpful
Cause you have Deedee Tflame isn’t a huge concern. Hecidueye could be useful here.
should I drop sneasler or is the type overlap not that problematic?
Is heci real?
Gotcha
hi tofu
emma did you get your louisville spot?
yes ma’am
Pov I fight pallosand
Of course you be eating sand
Anyone know if the dude that ran the Overquil team at NAIC posted his rental
https://pokepast.es/56d6ea92f1b59c63 - Just hit T500 with this mess
Could be worse
no it can't
No the team
Mine?
Yea
It just doesn't mesh well on paper but it's kind of heat
I would not consider it heat
And I don't know why but it looks dreadful
Why not?
that jus seems so wack lmao
Budget Terapagos moment
but its better so wat r we even doing at that point
Not a single clue
I've given up on Reg G so I'm Reg H pilled right now
Who is even Calyrex?
lol
wow uh
All I know is Altaria
"i can protect again?"
the damage miraidon deals is not okay
yea
Nah(I'm running dudunsparce)
that mon sucks tho so it doesnt even matter
Loses me the game
Rattled + Tera psychic + weakness policy + side beat up + baton pass
Trust
usually i can still win, it depends how bad i mess up forgetting something. in that case it wasnt doing much and i still won
wait what
Altaria gaming
Posted the team here
It's a cooked team
that shits deep fried ass
But it worked for me so I can't complain
Yeah mine is more offensive
orrrr you can do prankster sing 
Cause I got banded chop I needed grass threats
mm fair enough
Yeah that team got me to T500 so honestly it has a lot of stuff that needs to be changed but it isn't half bad
I was in a slump and just threw a bunch of stuff on a team and that got created
Me when I dump a chicken's tail end in the fryers

People just be overpredicting turn 1 and I just eq, pretty solid game plan
Like 0 reason for what they did
ive been playing that mirai team that world that big tournament
worlds?
oh rajans team
Very offensive, 2 protects on the whole team
Oh wait 3
People that don't have protects in the same spot on every pokemon have something wrong with them
Budget Turtle moment
thats.... Rajan's Team Minus Urshifu
didn't Rajan run Ogerpon?
oh right
and Fari set looks ENTIRELY Different
Does it?
semi different but still the purpose is different
Oh wasn't it throat spray?
Fari without Protect is kinda weary
Rajan's is Electric Seed Fari
Or do you mean at a different time
I was talking about Indianapolis he does not have Urshifu-
Yea he had incin
heres rajans 6 ^
Ok
It feels very hyper offensive
Feels very all gas all the time
The tempo I create is insane, granted I'm low ladder
i mean what those teams became was the two teams that got top 4 at worlds, those didnt have bm or incin. but yea urshi got added in
Anyways i'm dealing with someone built a 52 Speed no Attack Garchomp
That someone built(Not in this server)
same
that is a necessary evil
like Urshifu is fine
just deal with it
idk like im fine w/o it
i was fine w/ it too
its ability needs readjusting imo tho
a lot of gen 8 mons were made for dmax, to not adjust all of them but just some of them afterward is reckless
yeah like just give it like 30% damage reduction when hit through protect
yeah
i think 0.7x would be better
cuz it still show the power of Urshifu but make it more balance
eh i guess i feel like hitting thru protect is powerful enough, leaving it only at a 30% damage decrease is still pretty strong
fair
nd its not completely necessary but i think itd make urshifu not as centralizing
fair
otherwise understandably most players r gna take it wen its legal
cuz its that strong and flexible
also i think i finally see someone(Not in this server) built a 252 HP,200 Defense and 52 Speed No Attack Garchomp with Draco Meteor and Toxic-
i need to wash my eyes

HOW DID THEY FUMBLE THAT
I’m almost to masterball with my zamazenta team
noice
some ppl wanna do something different so bad
nd then their sets are bad
i mean people in right mind would know Garchomp is a Fast Physical attacker-
Once they saw the Stats- but i guess they wanna fumble
Calyrex really is the hardest legendary to get around but with a well timed wide guard I’ve managed to get around Astral Barrage/Glacial Lance
zama is generally pretty favored into cir
wha? Zama beats Caly Ice-
Farigiraf’s ability is really annoying preventing priority moves though sometimes I need one from Urshifu or Rillaboom to clean up
if Anything,Miraidon hates Both Calys
I have an easier time against Miraidon with Zamazenta than I do against the Calys
something is wrong i can feel it
I sent my team in here before
its atleast 50/50 into both id argue its favored in a lot of cir mus
hands + seed giraffe + nuking something t1 likely w/ miraidon. and then heartflame to tera and deal w/ stuff if need be
pretty heavily at that
i probably need coaching from either you or Monke for Zama MU cuz i find they are troublesome to deal consistently
moment
Keanu coaching for hire
I might even change my zama’s stats but they’re pretty good. I’m running full hp and full defense with the rest in speed with Impish nature to give it some base special defense. It can live a helping hand electro drift from terrastalized miraidon.
yep lmao
And move set I’m using body press, heavy slam, wide guard, and protect
I was told to start doing coaching so I can get money but I think ima start streaming and such first and do coaching later when im a goat 
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you are the GOAT for us here
I send it out first in conjunction with a heavy hitter like Flutter Mane and it often never faints the entire battle
Iron Hands:
that do be Zama
me a humble iron hands
sure
👐
For Iron Hands I’d just target down its partner Pokemon until it’s the last one left
Brian Hands
that thing hits hard id be careful
Nah it can’t do much to my Zama
Like VERY HARD
Especially with Low Kick is now used
low kick is no joke .-.
neither is drain punch and wild charge though
you sure….?
you know you’re weak to fighting .-.
I can Tera or protect
156+ Atk Quark Drive Iron Hands Low Kick (120 BP) vs. +1 84 HP / 220+ Def Zamazenta-Crowned: 114-134 (64 - 75.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
you sure about that-
156+ Atk Quark Drive Iron Hands Low Kick (120 BP) vs. +1 84 HP / 220+ Def Tera Grass Zamazenta-Crowned: 57-67 (32 - 37.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
even then it still a sizeable damage
can’t do much
100+ Atk Quark Drive Iron Hands Power Spot boosted Low Kick (120 BP) vs. +1 252 HP / 244+ Def Zamazenta-Crowned: 138-164 (69.3 - 82.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
lmao
wait that’s power spot boosted
Mine’s max defense and max hp
ignore that .-.
But wide guard provides nice counter play against eruption
I use wide guard and protect both zama and my partner while my partner Pokemon knocks out or does heavy damage to the Torkoal or Koraidon or whatever fire type
Then I have priority moves to guaranteed finish off the final slice of hp
not very optimal
Unless they have a Farigiraf that thing’s annoying
you can calc it to be similar to mine
I mean not the worst idea for coaching seeing as you know what you're talking about and have the accolades to back you up, but also respect the decision for halting it
You wait til later, you get better and also possibly get more achievements and results too so that's also a bonus 
cant really share my spreads though
100+ Atk Quark Drive Iron Hands Low Kick (120 BP) vs. +1 252 HP / 252+ Def Zamazenta-Crowned: 108-128 (54.2 - 64.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Monke and Keanu are here saving a Zama player probably
What
more reason to run Iron Hands now kek
I just saw one message, we talking about Zama?
@harsh warren are you saying your 252 hp 252 defense
I’ve never done calculations.
nowwwwwww
if it crit
or it didn’t get the defense boost
100+ Atk Quark Drive Iron Hands Low Kick (120 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Zamazenta-Crowned on a critical hit: 236-282 (118.5 - 141.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
ah
Even More Reason to run Iron Hands kek
they’re saying hands does nothing into zama .-.
You should learn how to run calcs it will optimize your team a lot
I’m 252 hp 252 def 4 spd and Impish nature which is +spdef-spatk
I let Keanu talk first on Zamazenta since he has better results with it and works with other big players who ran Zamazenta
yaya-
calc is good since it allows you to scout what your EVs can live
oh yeah,it dies to Flutterfeesh anyway as well
no need to calc that
Like I ain't gonna try to think I know as much as the guy who worked with Michael Zhang on the same Mon 
fire fairy pressure teehee
the combo that really pressures Zamazenta (Mostly)
heavy slam enters the chat
exactly
Plus he knows more about the WH set that's kinda better
If this were IDBP set, I could talk all fuckin night lmao
i did not scroll up to see people say iron hands does nothing to zamazenta did I😭
I will say my indie spread was max defense but id never go max hp on it you gotta optimize it more than that @harsh warren
yep you heard it Emma
Did someone say that?
yessss unfortunately
shhhhh
everything will be okay emma-
you don’t need to be scared-
pat pat
dullhouse said that
I would recommend watching Cloverbells to see how to optimize spreads since I also help out with his videos @harsh warren
bwah todays a happy day
I mean no
Like fuck Low Kick, Iron Hands just beats out Zamazenta with Drain Punch tbh
Thanks I’ll maybe check that out. I also make YouTube videos. My last Pokemon video was back in sword and shield.
:0
what happeneds
i think i need to have an Oxygen Mask after seeing someone(Not in this server) built a 252 HP,200 Defense and 52 Speed No Attack Garchomp with Draco Meteor and Toxic-
And Iron Hands slander

i registered for louisville
nah id just set off terrain and tera 🙂
ezpz
don’t flop it
you are so mean!!!
yeah but its funny to see Big numbers
ill do fine >;(
Yeah I mean that helps but also like
Kinda almost offset damage with DP recovery
???
i’m just saying good luck in a pessimistic way
I think a low kick did 40 hp to my zama at worlds with terrain off
and im saying fuck you in an endearing way
good luck then
i’m sorry-
when are we doing that?

HUUUHHH

comp discussion moment
There's kids here 👁️👁️
ok thats hilarious to see
But still its quite nice to have a Move that can do funni damage
get out of the Gutter Nova lmao
EMMA-
GET YOUR MIND OUT THE GUTTER 

i didn’t mean it like that wtf
@balmy glen thoughts on psyspam top 2 in big tourney
you are such a bad liar
what the fu-
yeah ik

My exact thoughts
Oh point 2
Point 3
gallade scissors beats paper
nah but Psyspam is prob the most consistent archetype rn ngl
i know it’s beautiful
this moment is the funniest thing ever
but I have wide guard pelipper on my team so
single target moves into a spread move mixup
honestly keeping Wide Guard on Peli is a Smart Move
thank god i did that
I legit with other stuff have struggled to get 1100s at times
I legit threw together Psyspam shit the other day and instantly hit 1200 without breaking a fucking sweat
Literally just clicking buttons and winning
It's so fucking dumb rn
Cuz if Armadee doesn't finish it, Torkoal comes from the back and cleans up the rest
At least MausApe felt a little more technical
yeah its pretty much Wide Guard Fodder for Psyspam Teams
Yeah funny thing is you don't even need Rilla at times, just take advantage of the terrain and Wide Guard the E Force away lol
Pelipper moment
Also I have not seen like a single fucking Meteor Beam Armarouge on ladder and that's so stupid
people likes to play with Gimmicks
psyspam doesn’t feel technical bc ur not smart enough
its easy to learn but takes quite a bit to master
Why does it need to be technical though when you just click button and win 🤷♂️
literally every team
If I'm dumb, then the opponents I fought must be even dumber then
moment
I mean I'll talk shit about stuff all I want lol
I'll talk shit about this Reg too, it ass brother lol
its fucking ass
I'm literally playing Crash Bandicoot again rn cuz of the ass format
You know its bad when i play Honkai Star Rail and Splatoon in the same session
Psyspam good
I don't even feel like it's "skill issue" just literally like you have these strong things right
Except unlike past regs, it feels like if you have a bad MU, you can't play out of bad MU at all
Just gotta counter it
Tera Dark Amogus go brrr
Exactly, I'm skipping Reg H and focus on 2nd Wave Reg G for now
Feels like climbing a mountain when you have a bad MU vs before when it's like bad MU oh I can win this or come close if I play good
No i feel you
Also deadass it's like I told someone I legit think in the past 2 weeks, I have plotted more lines into MausApe or Archaludon Pelipper than I did into CSR for the 2 months I mained Zamazenta
That Gambit clef team is pretty good into alot of match ups atm
Yeah see my dumbass don't know where to go from there 🤷♂️
honestly i rather skip that bullcrap of Regulation H
I like the volc side of the things, I actually play good with teams when I don’t try to force something (sand, sorry ttar)


Wolfie entered chat-
gimmick girl.
give amogus intimidate you cowards
Lmao wolfie leaves chat-
and no regenerator?
The combine both for and one
hi maya
I hate TW teams dude, can’t do fucking shit
Just click tw and click buttons, can’t do anything

Give Amoonguss intimidate, regenerator and oblivious in one skill
And call that ability “No u”
https://pokepast.es/37057281d0c18d2a I feel like I auto lose to dengo krow, what do I do about it
Idk if I’m feeling volcarona rn
Hiya
You could swap to snarl
It doesn’t exactly take advantage of focus energy
But it’s nice
if i wanted snarl i'd change the item
and if its specs gleam hydrei's dead, and MURKROW CAN HAZE THAT AWAY
Right yeah
Maybe a change of tera?
haya maya :3
if dengo tera dragon's i cant do shit
i dont have u-turn rn due to my mu into ty whimsi being shit
so cycling FO is harder
and therefore hard to get hydrei into position to hit dengo
Like 4 elo off 1600, probably the worst spot to be in
Cause I wanna play more but at the same time at this time of day there's only like 1400s players
Playing comp pokemon is a good change of pace from all the toxicity i see in low diamond on league of legends
yeah
I mean Snarl offensively is still pretty decent
if you see the toxicity, you ain't using muteall
Wait til you meet the spanish/italians
But in general I always have comms off anyways
at best you get a gl hf and gg at worst you get slurs hurled towards your ancestors so
not exactly a 1:1 spectrum
that is why you muteall and relearn to enjoy games with communities with big egos imo
league/pokemon have some similarities tbh
I ain't gonna lie I saw "Toxtricity" and "muteall" and thought there was a joke in there
toxicity is not a joke
people have serious issues ongoing with how they queue out of spite in a lot of games
I know it isn't but Toxtricity being a sound based pokemon and just using "muteall" was funny to me
I feel like I don't see any toxicity on showdown ladder though, usually just people getting pressed over bad luck
Same
But luck is part of the game so if something really really unfortunate happens I usually say sorry or something of the sort
Although if it's like a play rough miss I'm rejoicing and keeping my mouth shut in that chat
luck ain't an equal factor in every game. you got luck/rng in Pokemon vs not much in MOBAs.
Never played league so I honestly got zero insight into the similarities and differences between em
Your moves don't have to roll for accuracy ha ha
Man maybe I get into league
It ain't just league, all MOBAs have little next to no RNG
If only Groudon wouldn't miss every single precipice blade
There is quite a bit of luck in league. But that game is frustrating for different reasons.
nah little luck involved
Such as player quality as well as champion balance.
Is balancing luck?
balance is a word you use with caution, anyone will use it for different meanings
Very true
league is known to have a heavy emphasis on balancing their game for both pro/casual ranges at the same time
Ah so everyone is viable more or less?
definitely
Ah ok
you got some outliers but you can find success with a lot of things
Yeah pokemon don't give a single dang about balancing
Power creep is the biggest problem in my opinion
Pokemon has clearly things that outstat/outvalues other options
These new restricteds are just overwhelming to everything else
And it's fine like this since it's mostly a game made for enjoying it alone/casually.
Gotta have a selling point I guess
For sure
But man if my favourite can't win I'm in shambles
play some randoms, you get to use a wide pool of Pokemon with funny yet competitive sets
(random format on showdown)
I do play randoms occasionally but I enjoy teambuilding a lot as well
I like making weird pokemon work in an already determined meta game
My dozo mu disapears tho
how do you get that ? I struggle everytime I want to get back to Singles OU or Doubles Battle Stadium.
What do you mean get that? Like how do I do it?
Already determined metagame
How do you get that for OU/VGC
I struggle bringing the right 4 Mons in VGC, OU is different as I can get away playing balance sort of
Well like right now in Reg H rain is super dominant right now so you could use a weird pokemon like altaria to counter it
Meta is always changing but like in that example you can play to a rain meta
isn't altaria quad weak to ice with is common on water Mons ?
It is but nah, right now ice beam doesn't exist besides on weirdo sets
I always run Garchomp so that's even more ice weaknesses
Balanced out with Gambit + Arcanine mostly though
It's funny though, most rain teams don't even have water type sweapers right now
All about that Archaludon
i think altaria is a hidden reg H gem
its okay we live in a generation where altaria is a steel type
What if I want mine to be an ice type for the ice type resist?
Just give it pixilate back 😔
thats in 4 months
To who
they are giving it back 🫵
MEGAS WOOHOO!!
gn maya
I wonder is there any wellspring ogerpon build that let it survive freeze dry from iron bundle ?
Why do u need to do that
Just curious actually can well spring survive from freeze dry or will it always insta kill it
Focus Energy/Snarl/Draco Meteor???
Oh I thought you meant drop focus energy
I kinda wanna go back to Tera steel on hydrei but the fighting resistance for poison has also felt kinda nice
I might just go Tera fire hydrei as well tbh
I want u-turn on rilla
Eh I explode anyway nvm lol
Solo Armarouge hit my builder
This gotta be a worlds player ain’t no way he just randomly stopped in the middle ladder of reg g then hard grinded like this in reg h
Hello
👀
This ain't for you
Liar
Wdym not for me obviously
Tbh I'm just waiting to see how it does in reg H in psyspam
Its ok
Theres no need to "wait to see how it does" lol
The ones that are good with it will do well
I'm also waiting for team comps to come because I have no idea how to build it lmao
This gholdengo team is pretty close to what I want
Gonna have to test it more
Oh BTW tofu
That offensive incin I have
I think it was generalist offensive av
But during swsh
https://pokepast.es/ed3642b998219ebe I’m not really feeling volcarona rn, thoughts on something to place here? Team feels weak to dengo krow especially rn, be it specs or Tera dragon NP
Everything else has felt fine
Everything is weak to dengo /j
You’re not helping lol
Damn does this mean it safe to assume in games ladder next month gonna be filled with muk smeargle 
Not really lol
You could slot gambit set up somewhere in there
Smeargle is pretty bleh rn imo
Even if it does flood ladder it doesnt mean you'll lose to it
its set dependent
specs gleam spam is kinda free, or can just power gem volcarona
Oh yeah and finally finished with my monthly push
Speaking of monthly push ladder stream?
tera dragon nasty plot is difficult to break through due to tauros having poor spD
and then the rest of my team doesnt wanna take MIR
In game or showdown ?
In game
volc cant do shit in return either
Were very close to masterball
Sure i guess it always nice to see something new on in games ladder the team in there is something else sometimes
Have you tried Tera Blast Dragon Volcarona
Still salty about the lost on belly drum iron hand trick room caly s team
thats a thing?
Tera Dragon Volc is a thing but it doesn't really take a genius to figure out it's coverage kinda dog shit if you go run Grass/Fire
i mean, thats what i've seen everyone else run
but you're not wrong
that coverage sucks
Okay but I'm not everyone else and I don't want to be
I want to be better
Dragon, Fire
Dark, Electric, Fairy, Fighting, Flying, Ghost, Normal, Poison, Psychic, Stellar
Bug, Grass, Ground, Ice, Rock, Steel, Water
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ooof yea that kinda blows
Dark, Electric, Fairy, Fighting, Fire, Flying, Ghost, Ground, Normal, Poison, Psychic, Rock, Stellar, Water
Bug, Dragon, Grass, Ice, Steel
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I stand by gambit as an option as well
I have question does grass / steel type mon exist on SV ?
no
nah dengo is my goat
Ah damn so i presune the only one who have that typing is ferrothorn line
Dengo and slash do different things
we also have kartana
Oh yeah that thing do kinda forgettable tho
Ferrothorn gives me singles flashbacks
Kartana????
Bad take to call that thing forgettable
Ferrothron def could be good answer for urshi water especially if they use choice item
POV SoR Close Combat
Ig we can ignore how stupid kart was in swsh
The best thing i could say ultra beast have really weird shaping most of times i forgot theyre even pokemon to begin with
I miss stakataka
Well it doesn't exist on SV
I have 👀
i was hoping to mess with kartana this gen but nah, no ultra beasts or tapus
or naganadel
Poison/Dragon
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I guess gamefreak scared with what those mon can do with tera
Especially with the ability like caly and i presume they don't want ultra beast too overshadow the paradox mon
Grass/Steel
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why does it have 131 defense lmao
Yeah paradox and ultra beast in a way similliar especially with all of them having same ability
and that attack stat is nuts
That's stream is something seeing choice spec fluttermane with tera stellar tera blast def an eye opening experience
@mighty stump wanna watch me lose vgc world cup friendly in an hour :3
sure
Im trying to just hit mball so I dont have to suffer as much next reg but I cannot bring myself to care
ong
idk mang
Relatable
Let’s go the soda machine “broke” and then I fixed it and got 3 drinks for 1
aw man I can’t bully monke in vc
Did you start down for on the bottom
do you want in?
Get fucked loser
@dull ibex open spot
join
washroom
You got this
I’m also in the middle of the first week this semester
Oh fuck it’s already the 29th
Thx for reminding me it’s my friends birthday today lol
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marcos team?
didnt realise accuracy could get this low. Lol https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2190371123-fa31x3vr7wc5jihatz6ldthpanxiv1epw
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def the longest game ive ever played
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2190382328 a9 did well here
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Also found it odd the arch didn’t have av, and peli wasn’t sashed
a9 is the reason I won the game lol
(Hydrei got a focus energy off)
It was a slaughter house
Still not feeling volc tho
@mighty stump bye bye?
No
opposing volc feels miserable mu wise
Marcos?
nah I made a goofball team with my friend
So clefable kingambit rillaboom is some kind of a core?
yh
Scarf armarouge
That’s not something I expected
How do I know? it outsped and OHKOed my ninetales
yknow whatd solve this
@dull ibex aight open it back up
ready Tofu
go ahead
No
b r u h
I said soon not now lol
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it is but thats not wat this is. marco made a partial pledge team w/ meowscarada and prim also has h typh and murkrow stuff
clef/gambit/rilla/volc is a pretty common balance core atm
Isn’t it just awesome when you lose games to crits and poisons from a fucking gengar then you just get cooked by the stupid clefable shit
So fun man

so ive been testing out that h typhlosion murkow stuff, its very good. i basically just yoinked marcos team tho
got top 500 w/ 72% gxe
God the clefable gambit volc stuff is so hard to break through
yea it can be tough
And the Gengar on the team is irritating asf
I can’t set up and I don’t really have the offense to just, go kill
Im still not feeling volcarona on my side
But I also have no clue what I’m supposed to add
wdym
Dengo krow/ty whimsi HO, dozo,
oh ok
I’m listing lol
arch rain and mausape?
Archa peli, dengo balance, psyspam, and Bloodmoon tr
Uh, mausape is a little weird
I lead Tauros/a9 and just, hope lol
seems like u have a good overall mu ratio then
Yea, I kinda want some kind of physical attacker
id say if ur team seems like a member could be replaced which it seems ur considering and any specific move choices that could potential assist u in those other less favorable mus like mausape and gambit balance
Offensive physical attacker, Tauros only hits so hard 
I mean, I think mausape is doable with a9 Tauros lead
I get the +2 from ape and I can chunk it early
Gambit balance is rough tho
i think if ur giving urself atleast a 50/50 in those other 2 mus its prolly fine but if ur able to get it to 60/40 even better right haha
nice
The 6th is, per usual, kicking my ass
wats the 5/
Hydra dengo a9 rilla Tauros
volcs the odd one out lol
Yea lol
A9 managed to feel good finally
Finishes fantasy and supports dengo/hydrei pretty well
So it works out pretty ok
do u bench it vs opposing weather?
No
jus back a9?
I’ll usually have it in the back, I don’t feel like it needs to set veil always
fair
Encore and icy wind is a lot of support already
ive played a cppl players who did back a9 and outplayed me
I think a9 should just be used as a solo thing tbh
The snow archetype fucking sucks lol
Yea
maybe bax stuff but idk i think both r jus better w/o eachother rn
What to do with this fucking volc man lol
Meh
Bax feels better on rain
If anything
or jus a more balance style team
Yea
Man my WiFi is eating shit today
CB Bax is funny tho
u said u want a physical attacker start there
True yea
go thru sd list of options and see wat u think could work and also assist in getting those 2 mus a bit more in ur favor
Lmao
Could maybe go palafin or bascu
Then add harc over Tauros
Grassy seed sneasler could be a thing
Banded pult
ive played vs it wasnt impressed
I haven’t been impressed either, doesn’t feel like a real Mon
basculegion feels awkward on ur team
palafin maybe but i would try to not move too much around jus to slot that in
try it
Gambit was a thought but I don’t like the 4 fire weaknesses lol
i think harcs fine atm
harc gives a nice 4x resist
Yea, good into volc too
yea
basically force the tera or switch nd u can jus blitz since most r grass
does well into volc/gambit/rilla
i think if u hav ways to limit the snowball of defiant boosts its usually fine. like u can run wisp
True I don’t have to go band
i prolly wouldnt not for ur team
Blitz wisp slide is probably enough+protext
bwomp
can try clam w/ grass tera
Regular Arc 
depends wat u want ur harc to do, more offensive or more defensive with more sustain (sitrus berry)
See my sad thing with Kantonian Arcanine is like there's still Incineroar lmao
I want more offensive so imma go clam
Like I could have Arc support with Snarl or Wisp but like guess who else has it
The cat lol
I mean rn though Psyspam kinda big and Incin just yeah
That monke is gonna love when I wisp it with harc lol
(I will still explode to rage fist)
i mean moreso in general not necessary this format
Thank God the monkey is a masochist
dollarmonke has given 1 Gen Rep to drayagedrago
i think harc and incin are jus better choices for a fire type intimidate
Id argue Tauros too
arcs good in those regional dex first cppl formats
Sleeping on Hitmontop
Nah lol
Hitmontop actually put in work for me I was very surprised
In reg g right?
also can still be decent depending on whats available. like in swsh it was used (not as much as incin) but by some cuz it resisted both zacians stabs and could jus wisp it
You can test it
I’m glad I fidgeted with water Tauros it seems pretty strong
the urshifu copium is real
hitmontop seems meh rn
I mean actually Intimidate Fake Out WG still like
It has a kit so
It probably still be niche but
or i can jus use like pelipper and incin or rilla and have a better team and mons
Lmao
But I hate myself though so
i feel like hitmontop is bait based on its kit
I hate myself so I'll use Hitmontop
Bruh
like sure it has good tools but is it really doing enough to enable its partners consistently
What partners would it enable anyway
no im saying the other way around
Like WG is nice for dengo but like, just run a fire type
its a support so itd be the enabler
Oh true
oh nvm i read that wrong lol
Lmfao
idk haha i dont wanna put brain power into thinking of hitmontop partners
I run around campus to find a place to sit just to forget I need chopsticks for my food, fuck
Fair enough
maybe a fake out/wide guard/coaching/close combat set w/ like balance stuff
Noice
for hitmontop?
No the stuff you’re playing with
oh why not whims over murkrow?
It did actually it did for Gholdengo for sure
Ya
Once again it'd probably be niche AF but it could probably work slightly
I got cooked by a heci today, I think it’s kinda real lol
mostly jus haze lol some set up cant be encored and dozo is awkward if they dont protect. also have a grass type in meowsarada and a fairy type in prim on the team already
Basically my idea is if I hate myself enough, it can work
Just like the good ol days before incin came back
So if you really hated yourself you’d use spidops

Now I don't have that much hate
There is a line to how much I hate myself
How do I break it
im not sure many ppl could use spidops well
Idt there’s a reason to lol
def not
Spidops is actually trash
You continue to make me use Volc against Sun ez 
but wolfey will like try nd make runs to #1 every now and then w/ shit mons
Done
Lol
They usually have some kind of merit tho
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Those stats suck jeez
Tera steel MIR?
Crit Draco meteor? Eruption?
Speaking of, I love how the instant people find hisui ty and whims HO was a thing everyone gets onto it
I’ve seen so many the past couple days
Can harc live +2 kowtow
+1 252+ Atk Dondozo Wave Crash vs. 252 HP / 132 Def Hitmontop: 129-153 (82.1 - 97.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Sitrus Berry recovery
Deadass
No not even lmfao
New Dozo counter: Endeavor
naaahhhh whaatttt people playing a team that placed highly and showed rly good hits into mus?
this cannot be.
Monke is desperate lol

Hey try to stick around when 80% of your HP magically disappears
I was mostly pointing out the HO thing got immediately picked up by everyone but ok
Harc prob wants to outspeed jolly incin/modest peli right?
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2190490620-dvkn1l396lxi52iu6es44i8uwh43p4qpw
meowscarada so good wen u dont have someone in ur ear telling u it sucks
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between ursaluna major and lesgetitiguess! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2024 Reg H; Date: Aug 29, 2024
IT SUCKS (jk)
I bet it’s fine, people just be opting for rilla
applin had zero merit wen he ran it lol
def not like top tier but its been very good imo, basically one of the team mvps and most consistent brings
Nah but syrupsweet syrup is so good right?
No they don't if he's running it for content
(Ik it sucks)
lol
Fair enough
Reminder he used leafeon
u used leafeon
Lmfao
Binch
its mid!!!!!!


might be my gc team
trick room has a cute thing called doubling as a viable team & a gc team
yea trs a good call
Fuck you, Upper Hand Dnite
Maybe
wat r u running
Idk honestly
I'm tryna think of shit to run
Don't want to get on laptop cuz fucking WiFi is being slow AF today
What are your thoughts on this team for reg h
Raichu?
Adamant or impish for ho oh
neither dont run hooh
And I can't reset router cuz my mom is probably on WiFi and I don't want to interrupt what she doing
u lost to upper hand dnite but rnt running anything?

Oh no I was saying that as a GC thing
Archaludon is popular at the moment so something to stop it electric spam
I’m playing my team in gc
seriously tho reg g is about to end and hooh is like very much not in a great spot in the meta. if u really want to i guess adamant
Ik not building up a gimmick for that
Ik it’s not that good. Getting a shiny one from bdsp wanted to see what nature I should synchronize for
Adamant ig then
adamant seems good then
gl
Oh, I’m gonna need throw to hunt me a9 and hydrei now
While I get, something in return
Cuz masuda hunting is ass
the pledge stuff on this team im using rn is kinda gimmicky but its not all it has so its w/e imo
also depending wen the gc is this team might even be completely obselete
I’m hoping my stuff doesn’t become shit
But I’m also running dengo, and rilla, and Tauros, which all seem like they’ll stay relevant the whole reg
Hydrei I haven’t seen as much
i have
those mons wont fall off (maybe aqua tauros) but teams might become refined and defined to make it so those choices on a team collectively might not work as well
yea that’s fair
A9 don’t become trash 🙏
On this team
Lemme enjoy your presence this reg lol
Cuz you’re not real in restricted

https://pokepast.es/c00327a21ce9206a anyway hopefully from here it’s just ev/move tweaks
That’s a cool team
almost the max amount of type diversity u can have on a team 11/12 distinct typing
yea i jus yoinked it from marco fiero he got top 4 at some online tour w/ it
and then i jus made random spreads
Do you think Ursaluna will actually be meta in reg h
yes
Do you think people will go for the optimal ivs?
yes…?
It takes a long time for 0 speed and 0 attack
and..?
So I’m asking if you think the amount of time it takes will make it less common
no
especially for regionals people will take the time to perfect their teams
plus ursaluna-h can be rng hunted & bm-ursa has been out long enough that you SHOULD have a 0/0 by now
I’m talking ladder
bwah
Heya hun
haaiii
How you feeling?
tummy hurt
Man, lost a bo3 to internet dying
It was super close too, and it was a9 and wisp ready harc with hydrei in the back vs dozo
I was right there
🫂 hope it gets better soon lovely
iv lost many battles to my laptop running out of battery
i feel like shit
:(
Just lost to internet stuff
any better than yesterday?
whats wrong
time to try a korai team for the first time and i homebrewed the absolute fuck outta this
This close to the end of the format?
( was gifted spreads or reused them)
Ah
i dunnooooo my tummy has been just bugging so badly after i got sick yesterday
id rather die standing than kneel to archapeli
(I dont find it fun to face and just wanna chill out rn)
Fair enough
could actually make my gallade team like, good and have a good chance but ehhh later
wha da helll
if you need something to distract you i can stream myself just playing and messing about :3
No restricted lmao
i need to sleep i gotta go to work soon
awe poor thing working like that take care okay
need fundd cant call outttt
maybe no more taco bell
🐇
it wasn’t even after taco bell !!!
im sorry yoru tummy is acting up im sure itll get better







