competitive_discussion

[modern harbor]

daichi shimada

[chrome knot]

o

but yeah come to worlds next year lets meet

[modern harbor]

YESS

also i wasnt fully aware during the finals match bc i dont know the mu that well but

if yuta made that last call right could he have won?

[chrome knot]

i was following along rly close

yes

[modern harbor]

WOWW

[chrome knot]

actually n

[modern harbor]

it was insane irl

[chrome knot]

scroll back a few turns

he had to side puff cir then redirect foul play

[cyan smelt]

can't believe people were calling mirai mid at the start of the format

[modern harbor]

ohh

[chrome knot]

he also had to full send hhp into pon

bc pon was a huge wall atp

[modern harbor]

to me it felt like his team was so much more technical but lacked the raw power which left him on the back foot unless he made the right plays

[chrome knot]

clock was ticking too fast against cir with trick room and rain expiring 1 turn from each other

he has to force miraidon in early

[frozen edge]

random but what if you switch in an incineroar on a defiant mon and have your partner click burning jealousy

too niche?

[foggy lodge]

too specific

[frozen edge]

yea

[dapper crag]

Move: Burning Jealousy

Has a 100% chance to burn the target if it had a stat stage raised this turn.

Type

Fire

Category

Special

Power

70

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[foggy lodge]

70 is pretty low BP and you still have to hit in the exact same turn

[frozen edge]

but u could just have it on grimmsnarl for example

[cyan smelt]

burning jealousy incin was a thing in swsh because of caly-i

[frozen edge]

bp isnt rlly important, it's more abt the burn

although it is supereff against gambit which is the 2nd most prominent defiant mon

might as well just run wisp on something for them

[chrome knot]

yes.. incin runs will o wisp

hope this helps :)

[frozen edge]

cool story

who would've known

jkjk thank you

[chrome knot]

apparently you

[molten oasis]

Anaheim next year

[foggy lodge]

well anyways another worlds for the double fighting type les gooo

[molten oasis]

California sucks lol

[modern harbor]

the juniors match was kinda funny lol

[worthy lark]

I swear kevin Han from the juniors match is taller than yuta and Luca from the masters match lol

[chrome knot]

kevin han is my goat

[mighty stump]

What was the closing ceremony news

[craggy dagger]

uhhh

[knotty mirage]

So caly ice win the championships ?

[craggy dagger]

morpeko in unite, tcg mobile

[craggy dagger]

mirai did

[knotty mirage]

Ah okay damn

Might check the livestream replay later just woke up

[mighty stump]

Lame

Just saw the twitter stuff from serebii

No new game info

[foggy lodge]

Things we already knew mostly

[bold geode]

Yeah no new game info

[foggy lodge]

Sadge

[bold geode]

Though next two worlds were announced so

[cyan smelt]

monke why are you such a meme

[balmy glen]

Next two worlds in my backyard practically

Home court advantage boutta be crazy

[smoky hawk]

If incin & amooguss had a baby, it would be the most annoying support mon ever

Probably should be banned

[cyan smelt]

Should I play some reg g on cart

[knotty mirage]

I mean if youre fine with playing on closed team sheet sure go ahead

[balmy glen]

I’d say cart and showdown bo3 is a good mix to get better

[cyan smelt]

Yeah I'm really sucking with reg h bo3

[balmy glen]

Man worlds practically in my backyard

They really want me to be the main character next worlds frfr

[frozen edge]

@cyan smelt is gonna be there to stop you

[cyan smelt]

Nah I'm garbage lmao

[sharp cobalt]

Gen 10 is the game I'll try VGC proper

I say every gen

[balmy glen]

I mean I’m all for it tbh

The higher level my opponents are before I go to my next worlds the better I’ll be by next worlds

[cyan smelt]

Cart ladder is hard

[torn parrot]

i hate the world championship team

i hate it

[violet smelt]

whats a good ev spread for TR indeede?

[mighty stump]

Snorlax 🐐 status since its won the same amount of Worlds as Incineroar and Amoonguss

[violet smelt]

sheer force doesnt cancel recoil damage?

[woeful epoch]

No it doesn't. Which is why it is weird that it cancels Life Orb DMG. Shouldn't imo

[polar canyon]

• it also doesn't cancel life orb damage if the move you used isn't affected by sheer force

That's even weirder

[dull ibex]

Vc?

[mighty stump]

sure

[molten oasis]

Wow that VC did not happen

[solid frigate]

Iron Hands When he sees Iron Crown and Iron Leaves are trying to Cheering it

(Ik its a different context but still)

[dull ibex]

its open if still interested

[molten oasis]

Oh there it is

[chrome knot]

and ill be the villain

[devout mist]

life orb isn't recoil damage though

[torn parrot]

I literally had a dream that I was sleepy

[mighty stump]

crazy

[atomic mural]

real

[torn parrot]

Lol

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/shock-shocker-shocked-black-guy-gif-27526370

[bold geode]

Well you wouldn't believe this but

I think you were sleeping

[chrome knot]

good morning bun

[bold geode]

@dull ibex lemme in

[woeful epoch]

True, but it also isn't a secondary effect of a move

[dull ibex]

joinm onke

[dapper crag]

Ability: Sheer Force

This Pokemon's attacks with secondary effects have their power multiplied by 1.3, but the secondary effects are removed. If a secondary effect was removed, it also removes the user's Life Orb recoil and Shell Bell recovery, and prevents the target's Anger Shell, Berserk, Color Change, Emergency Exit, Pickpocket, Wimp Out, Red Card, Eject Button, Kee Berry, and Maranga Berry from activating.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[chrome knot]

welcome to reading 101

[bold geode]

Reading is hard

[azure ether]

what's a counter to Mir now

[azure ether]

I'm expecting a lot of it this Saturday

[bold geode]

Steel types
You doing Reg H?

[azure ether]

no, we in G

[molten oasis]

oh miraidon?

play better

[chrome knot]

a more normal cir variant

[molten oasis]

[bold geode]

Ah
Also letting you know if you want a Zamazenta team, put your own spreads on MDB's Worlds team and use that for rn lmao

The team is super valid

[molten oasis]

rillaboom is a big help for miraidon mu

amoonguss helps too

lando I is solid into it as well

[azure ether]

I'd love to but I suck at EVing

what should I even calc for

[bold geode]

I mean I can give you my paste for rn 🤷‍♂️

[polar canyon]

The scarf lando goes hard

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/33dc18b1db52382c

[solid frigate]

what is with the Max Max Min Trend

[dawn crown]

what is the most popular set for gholdengo i want my tauros to outspeed

[mighty stump]

Just outspeed 149 if you're concerned

[dull ibex]

wdym

[solid frigate]

idk its just does Miracle Seed Rilla Set run Max Max Min-

[dull ibex]

braindead spread

im running it because im full gas hyper offense

[solid frigate]

fair

[dull ibex]

I really like it I think

[torn parrot]

Good mornin

[solid frigate]

sometimes if you don’t know how to build that mon

Just run Max Max min

[dull ibex]

ye

[torn parrot]

The real reason wolfey lost is because he didn’t eat the oyster

[chrome knot]

kylan just player diff’d him

[atomic mural]

TRUE

[devout mist]

It is. Recoil is not a secondary effect as it's a primary effect. Lire Orb is a secondary effect. It only happens after the move resolves.

[woeful epoch]

It is definitely coded that way which is why sheer force works on it. My point is that it shouldn't be coded that way.

[chrome knot]

life orb adds fixed % recoil to every move for boosted damage as a secondary effect

[woeful epoch]

You are correct. That is how it works.

[chrome knot]

then what is your point of “it shouldn’t be coded that way”

if it fits the sheer force criteria perfectly

[nocturne holly]

what are y’all running rn

[torn parrot]

Wasn’t it a bug and then they kept it that way

[chrome knot]

🤷‍♀️

[solid frigate]

if they did not remove it then its a feature

but still quite weird

[torn parrot]

It would make more sense if more things activated sheer force

Like recoil

Or like high crit moves

[tawdry urchin]

Anyone know what the best troll mon is? For Nat dex ubers

[solid frigate]

i think its mostly Secondary effects that affects the Opposing Pokemon idk

[torn parrot]

Huh

I see

[dapper crag]

Ability: Sheer Force

This Pokemon's attacks with secondary effects have their power multiplied by 1.3, but the secondary effects are removed. If a secondary effect was removed, it also removes the user's Life Orb recoil and Shell Bell recovery, and prevents the target's Anger Shell, Berserk, Color Change, Emergency Exit, Pickpocket, Wimp Out, Red Card, Eject Button, Kee Berry, and Maranga Berry from activating.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[nocturne holly]

That’s such a good ability

So many multipliers

[balmy glen]

I’m winning worlds with the goat amoongus next year sorry

[torn parrot]

Nono wait

That still isn’t consistent cus life orb only affects you and your attacks

It may not have been a bug but it still doesn’t make sense

[dapper crag]

Move: Flare Blitz

Has a 10% chance to burn the target. If the target lost HP, the user takes recoil damage equal to 33% the HP lost by the target, rounded half up, but not less than 1 HP.

Type

Fire

Category

Physical

Power

120

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Defrost

Thaws the user if frozen.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[chrome knot]

i think recoil moves are different than fixed % lorb recoil

understand that there also exists

[torn parrot]

There’s consistency in the moves I think but the when it gets to the items and then turning off other people’s abikities it’s like wtf

[dapper crag]

Ability: Rock Head

This Pokemon does not take recoil damage, except Struggle. Does not affect Life Orb damage or crash damage.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

Ability: Reckless

This Pokemon's attacks with recoil or crash damage have their power multiplied by 1.2. Does not affect Struggle.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[nocturne holly]

Recoil is based on damage done to opposing

Lorb is just fixed 10%

[chrome knot]

clicking move, attacking, item/ability = secondary effect of receiving attack

[nocturne holly]

I think it makes sense it’s basically just adding recoil to your moves

And therefore it’s removed by sheer force

[torn parrot]

I guess that makes sense

But

Hm

Okay I think I get the logic

[chrome knot]

good job bean :3

[torn parrot]

Thank you 🐇

[craggy dagger]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2183374448-xtby2wx351ootpa0w55kmw9mxs5g9ulpw

[chrome knot]

aight ngl nova

the moment i saw ur team i closed it

[craggy dagger]

that’s a joke team btw-

like hell i’m playing that team in reg H

[chrome knot]

https://tenor.com/view/toaru-index-a-certain-magical-index-anime-flick-gif-19046322

[craggy dagger]

but uhh

[dapper crag]

Ability: Solar Power

If Sunny Day is active, this Pokemon's Special Attack is multiplied by 1.5 and it loses 1/8 of its maximum HP, rounded down, at the end of each turn. These effects are prevented if the Pokemon is holding a Utility Umbrella.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[craggy dagger]

specs

stab + sun

252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charizard Overheat vs. 172 HP / 36 SpD Primarina in Sun: 155-183 (87.5 - 103.3%) -- 25% chance to OHKO

[chrome knot]

id hope that many modifiers would get there

[craggy dagger]

well-
either manual sun and sacrifice helping hand

or torkoal helping hand

[shadow wind]

Jeez, not even Tera fire.

[mighty stump]

Pelipper enters the chat

[solid frigate]

Peli moment

[foggy lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/pelipper-team-rocket-pokemon-gif-25260726

[late condor]

did anyone find a 0 atk iv gimmighoul during the tera raid event?

lmk

[pearl wind]

there were lots of those being hosted in #tera_raids throughout the last week

[balmy glen]

I mean I’m setting manual sun so gl

[mighty stump]

Pelipper with Rain Dance

Wide Guard

Idk

All my homies hate sun

https://x.com/soulsurvgc/status/1825341680192725021?s=46&t=NSIK9f9OViHUJnm37QZcEQ

Jeudy ➡️ WCS2024🌺 (@SoulSurVGC) on X

Kevin Han at juniors tourneys this year

Twitter · Aug 19, 2024, 1:19 AM

@next stump

[balmy glen]

kevin han is taller than me i think lol

[craggy dagger]

manual sun enters chat

wa-
rain dance peli-?

[late condor]

ty

[gentle crag]

c4p_10 has given 1 Gen Rep to .alyz.

[mighty stump]

You’re joking

[balmy glen]

nope

bros tall

im only 5'4

[solid frigate]

bro is Lebron James lol

[devout mist]

what part of it is a bug though ? it deals damage after you use a move just like solar power in Sun.

[torn parrot]

The interaction with life orb and sheer force

Not life orb itself

[spiral pawn]

Can someone play a reg G game with me so I can test my team? I would like it to be OTS though.

[devout mist]

What part is a bug though ? I find it very special to call a bug when it works through multiple games in the same way without even being corrected. Normally they issue patches (at least from memory)

[pallid hare]

its an interaction that's been around since Sheer Force was introduced, my guess is that it might have originally been a bug when it was first discovered, but they kept it for the advantage it gives (coincidentally, its not the only ability that nullifies life orb recoil)

[torn parrot]

that they made it a feature after the first time
thats just what iv heard anyways

[atomic mural]

YOU CAN CLICK THESE THINGS?

[devout mist]

so it's not a bug, some of us think it's a bug. am I getting this right ?

cause if it's bugged they ought to fix it

[pallid hare]

its likely a bug that was elevated to an actual feature

[torn parrot]

i didnt say it was a bug i said it was when it first came out

[devout mist]

source ?

is there anything that showcase it being a bug, I find these quirky things very interesting

[violet smelt]

ive never done a real team, i tried doing a TR team with rampardos, did i cook anything? https://pokepast.es/e7342e3a2b9f6ef0

[bold geode]

It's more than likely not a bug but just like a little niche part about it
There's other instances where you have like fine print things, like Blood Moon Ursaluna's Mind's Eye ability not ignoring Snow Cloak

[pallid hare]

why snow cloak, though?

[shadow wind]

Yuh.

Sorts by highest to lowest then if you click again lowest to highest.

[bold geode]

Snow Cloak lowers move accuracy And not Pokemon accuracy
Mind's Eye deals with Pokemon accuracy for a simple explanation

[polar canyon]

Yall would ghost tera hydreigon be a viable option

[devout mist]

Ghost Tera is always decent into Fake Out if you want to set TW imo

[polar canyon]

Because it's still an immunity defensive tera for fighting, neutral to fairy

Fake out too, but the reason this came to mind

I just realized doesn't work

I was about to say it's immune to ursa bm

But minds eye

[pallid hare]

ah, makes sense

[foggy lodge]

I can but you'd have to wait

[polar canyon]

Yall I need some enlightenment

What kinda spreads and sets have people been running for basculegion?

[next stump]

from 51% winrate cart player last year to top 8 worlds this year

Chenyue is a beast

[chrome knot]

@next stump where you headed next for regionals?

[next stump]

100% Louisville, maybe 10% chance Baltimore

[chrome knot]

see you in Louisville (!!)

[next stump]

[chrome knot]

come say hii

[polar canyon]

Wonder if I could get away with something like this

Basculegion @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Adaptability
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
Serious Nature

• Wave Crash
• Last Respects
• Flip Turn
• Tera Blast

Playthrough team type set

[next stump]

https://tenor.com/view/-gif-3511635

[chrome knot]

[violet smelt]

reg H might make me enter some locals for the first time

[next stump]

hell yeah, locals are awesome

[atomic mural]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reghbo3-2183532901-g5itfwt2c10dii3guvoscsll79c589upw

[atomic mural]

G1: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reghbo3-2183538660-ysjn1lkr42gt5iqlbqsdrkwcqwsz7j5pw G2: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reghbo3-2183543920-avpyl221oax44f6i6g4q7sr1zfavl6fpw

I like the team im using rn

[modest lagoon]

What game would you say is easiest to gain EVs in? Anyone can answer

[atomic mural]

I think its Scarlet and Violet because you can buy vitamins from the chansey store and get money from the afk money thing

[modest lagoon]

I'd say although it takes effort gen 6 games

[atomic mural]

thats fair

[modest lagoon]

Gen 6 games don't take in-game money

[molten oasis]

Hey guys look

[modest lagoon]

But they take time

[molten oasis]

GOATED pulls

[atomic mural]

nice

[modest lagoon]

Super Training is just one of those niche things in 3DS games that was really fun and still is

[modest lagoon]

Nice miraidon

[atomic mural]

i liked mantine surf

[modest lagoon]

Same

I was doing a speedrun at my own pace and I just got first at every surf spot

[devout mist]

pokemon showdown lol

[atomic mural]

actually true?

[devout mist]

i was semi joking

but it's convenient for not having to grind/check IV/EVs

[molten oasis]

Fitting since miraidon just won worlds lol

[strange fjord]

The future is now

We got the iron serpent winning. I remember when people had more confidence in Koraidon than they did in Miraidon before Reg G started

[atomic mural]

damn

[atomic mural]

G1: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reghbo3-2183569337-94jn6pww8bhtii3owygnpbg56jxeq2bpw G2: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reghbo3-2183572163-fhk87y6j5wpu3v9dt4gtswbwijhk4efpw

[molten oasis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2183580245 this team is stupid lmao

[atomic mural]

damn

[polar canyon]

Legit torn between playing reg g or h rn

I wanna get chi-yu + eleki working on a caly ice team

I also wanna play sinistcha

And sinistcha only works and will only ever work again in reg h

And possibly future gens

[atomic mural]

nah I think with just sinistchas ability alone, its gonna at least viable

[strange fjord]

I reached pretty high with Sinistcha in bo1 reg g. Dont let your dreams be dreams

[cyan smelt]

Why am I being matched with someone ranked 10 on the in game ladder

[atomic mural]

you're just that good

[cyan smelt]

No I'm ranked 8000, seems very unfair

Easy win for them and almost impossible for me to win

[chrome knot]

sounds like good practice to me

[cyan smelt]

It was completely one sided

[mighty stump]

Pokemon tends to have pretty even playing fields at least

It just becomes a question of “do you know what you’re dojng” vs “someone else who knows wat theyre doin”

Calling it unfair rather than seeing it an opportunity for an upset/learning experience

Is just a shame

[cyan smelt]

I just don't know how I'm meant to beat them that's all

[chrome knot]

use your thinking cap

[atomic mural]

use 1% of your power

[cyan smelt]

They had weezing and koraidon with ability shield

[chrome knot]

LMAO

[polar canyon]

Yeah that sounds pretty funny I should do that lol

No other weather

[next stump]

Rank 10 can sometimes mean legitimately Rank 10 Ultra Ball, that’s happened to me before

[modern harbor]

what are the main dark mons in this format

G

incin, g moltres, maybe ting lu? idk i forgor

i guess single strike

[nocturne holly]

Chien

[solid frigate]

Incin,Chi-Yu,Chien Pao,Single Strike Shifu

Ting Lu is kinda meh in G

[nocturne holly]

Darkshifu

Grim dark shifu

[molten oasis]

I’m starting to wonder if I get paid higher wages at the jobs I’m at because the position sucks

[modern harbor]

i just cant decide if i like meteor beam or tera fairy tera blast on psyspam

[solid frigate]

f

[solid frigate]

Lunala?

Calm Mind Moonblast.

[modern harbor]

nec dw

[solid frigate]

Nvm

[modern harbor]

doesnt get mb

[solid frigate]

I don't like Psyspam,just run Photon Geyser Meteor Beam

or hell Tera Fairy Blast

[modern harbor]

expanding force kinda better

[solid frigate]

W i d e G u a r d

[modern harbor]

true but i have moongeist and tera blast

[solid frigate]

D a r k t y p e s

[modern harbor]

tera blast works

[solid frigate]

At this point just run Tera Fairy Blast

[modern harbor]

except for incin

i have been and i like it esp because it cant miss

[solid frigate]

Its ok you can slap something that checks incin

[modern harbor]

i like it bc i can have safety goggles

trick room teams are amoonguss city

[empty turtle]

hey can you tell me any tips for this team
https://pokepast.es/88295d5086c531f7

[solid frigate]

Wait NECROZMA SAFETY GOGGLES?

[modern harbor]

yes

could go weakness policy but fairy doesnt usually take supereffective hits

[solid frigate]

Incin's and Rilla's EVs man-

what are you trying to do

[molten oasis]

It’s a tad annoying tbh

I miss sushi lol

[solid frigate]

just run something like Lorb or hell Power Herb Meteor Beam

and Use Ogerpon to Redirect

[modern harbor]

p herb meteor beam is the standard but i didnt like it bc misses just lose and im walled by dark types after its used up unless i wanna take 2 turns

[molten oasis]

I’m in the middle of looking for a new job LOL, this is miserable

[solid frigate]

it really does

[modern harbor]

mental herb could be good, but non prankster taunt isnt that common

[solid frigate]

Its not a Problem when you still gain the boost

[molten oasis]

I’m also finding they cut corners

And uhm, literally break a law lol

You’re supposed to get a break every, I think 5 hours legally?

I worked 11, NOTHING

[modern harbor]

yea i worked at dominos and wasnt allowed to sit or eat for 11 hours and i worked before and past my allotted hours and didnt get paid

[solid frigate]

Necrozma-Dawn-Wings @ Life Orb
Ability: Prism Armor
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA
Modest Nature

• Moongeist Beam
• Tera Blast
• Calm Mind
• Protect/Trick Room

Necrozma-Dawn-Wings @ Power Herb
Ability: Prism Armor
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA
Modest Nature

• Moongeist Beam
• Tera Blast
• Meteor Beam
• Protect/Trick Room

[solid frigate]

idk if you can whistleblow but eh

[molten oasis]

What?

[solid frigate]

oh yeah you aren't inUK....

Basically report to someone

[molten oasis]

Oh Ig it’s not required where I live

But like, 8-7 no lunch break is awful

[solid frigate]

honestly its just unfair

[molten oasis]

Aaaaand idt it’s fair my coworkers can cut corners and I can’t

Bit, petty tbh but my Coworker got mad I didn’t tell her I was using the bathroom

[atomic mural]

do you work at amazon?

[molten oasis]

But she can leave anytime she wants and doesn’t have to tell me? Like wtf

Restaurant business

[solid frigate]

yep,classic restaurant moment

[molten oasis]

It’s annoying, but it’s what I’m able to do so whatever ig

Silent suffering

[chrome knot]

@modern harbor u stinkity

[modern harbor]

incin checks compatible w tr/psyspam?

[solid frigate]

its what we lower Level employees do the best

Kinda same

[modern harbor]

hiiii!

emma i have a steenee code card for u

[chrome knot]

ohhh🥺

[nocturne holly]

On lunala?

[modern harbor]

nec dw

[nocturne holly]

Ow

Isn’t that just a worse lunala

[modern harbor]

no because it looks cool

actually what's lunala's spa

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 792: Lunala

Types

Psychic/Ghost

Abilities

Shadow Shield

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

137/113/89/137/107/97

Total

680

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[modern harbor]

necrozma's is i think 157 or something

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 800: Necrozma-Dawn-Wings

Types

Psychic/Ghost

Abilities

Prism Armor

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

97/113/109/157/127/77

Total

680

Base Species

Necrozma

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[molten oasis]

Yep

Worse bulk tho

[modern harbor]

lower speed tho better in tr

[nocturne holly]

Ye abut lunalas ability is just better

[modern harbor]

i mean kinda better bulk but its ability is a bit worse

[solid frigate]

not really

i used NDW before and i think it meh

Lunala is better

[nocturne holly]

And that like just carries it more

[chrome knot]

so adorable thank you smmmmm

[gentle crag]

setsumizi has given 1 Gen Rep to cattcameo

[modern harbor]

lunala is def better

but like they are slightly diff

[solid frigate]

they kinda Played the same way except Necrozma needs TR to work but Lunala can do with TW and TR

Plus Bulk is better,Moveset is not shit

[modern harbor]

its kind of just what i enjoy playing tbh, im just trying to make it as viable as possible instead of playing different mons bc i like it

[solid frigate]

there is a team that is literally the formula of it

Lillikoal NDW team

[modern harbor]

i have lilligant torkoal ursa bm indeedee nec dw and bolt

i dont rly like bolt tho idk when to bring it

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/d907090bbdb26b12

Gallade-

[chrome knot]

so do you want sunshine yet or what

[modern harbor]

lollll

[solid frigate]

Insert Sonic R

[modern harbor]

i might play amoonguss lol

fuck bolt

[craggy dagger]

wa?

[chrome knot]

you heard her, shes fucking raging bolt

[modern harbor]

yep

[atomic mural]

thats crazy

[atomic mural]

get a room

[solid frigate]

ok what,

Yep I'm Outta here

https://tenor.com/view/meow-sad-gif-13092344556686356737

[craggy dagger]

[modern harbor]

ugh idk what to use

does ursaluna headlong 1 shot incin

[foggy lodge]

Probably

[chrome knot]

after guts boost yes

[solid frigate]

Yes it does.

[modern harbor]

ok i'll try that lol

[chrome knot]

so you want sunshine?

[molten oasis]

I would

[modern harbor]

yas

[molten oasis]

Raging bolt is my goat

[modern harbor]

let me connect internet lol

[atomic mural]

whatttt

[chrome knot]

let me grab my switch

[solid frigate]

Drago what the fu

[molten oasis]

There’s not a SINGLE pokemon you like that much?

Not ONE

[solid frigate]

but in THAT LEVEL?

[chrome knot]

0890 code

[molten oasis]

Yes or no

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-sword-and-shield-zamazenta-gif-9071911985612941667

i'm outta here

[modern harbor]

vaporeon mega lopunny gardevoir mega gardevoir lilligant hisui lilligant

[molten oasis]

Real

[chrome knot]

ew vaporeon rest i can see

[molten oasis]

Except vaporeon

[modern harbor]

mime jr

[chrome knot]

NO

[molten oasis]

THATS A CHILD

[modern harbor]

searching

[solid frigate]

[chrome knot]

under arrest rn

[solid frigate]

To the shadow realm we go

[modern harbor]

want anything specific

[chrome knot]

non

cum fish

[modern harbor]

have a tatsu

[chrome knot]

ty

[molten oasis]

What???

[modern harbor]

shiny droopy tatsu

[chrome knot]

its a shiny tatsugiri

[foggy lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/ogerpon-pokemon-teal-mask-dlc-gif-5879253822303370158

[modern harbor]

kill you with a stick :3

[midnight bison]

@solid frigate hows the progress on the greninja team haha

[modern harbor]

yayy sunshine

[chrome knot]

be nice to herrrrr

[modern harbor]

should i keep eq? i hav no flying types or anything

i'll just ko myself lol

[solid frigate]

Finally got a Sauce founded in a Limitless Tournament,and its just Peli Archa Rain

[foggy lodge]

With Ursa?

[modern harbor]

yeah

[midnight bison]

show meeeee

im curious

[foggy lodge]

Swords dance is better i think

Just facade, headlong, SD and protect

[solid frigate]

i need to find it

[midnight bison]

ok no worries

[chrome knot]

yes

[modern harbor]

idk what bolt is doing on my team tbh

[chrome knot]

eq is pash ditch effort

or if u know u can kill both and dont mind dealing a fuck ton to urself lmao

[atomic mural]

i hate rain teams

[solid frigate]

Maxi HD found that and i was happy to see Usage

[solid frigate]

deal with it kek

[atomic mural]

I will

[midnight bison]

where does greninja fit into this?

does he water shuriken spam for arch defense or is he a decent spatk carry in the rain

[shadow wind]

First option I would assume.

[solid frigate]

It can do both

But first option if you don't wanna bring Maus

[midnight bison]

do you remember which tournament that one was in

so i can go check it out myself for the moves and items and wtv

[solid frigate]

I don't remember cuz Maxi's the one who send me this

[shadow wind]

I feel like any limitless tournament would do.

Rain is very very common right now.

[modern harbor]

bro what is imprison indeedee 😭😭😭😭

[midnight bison]

one with greninja specifically

is not common at all 😭

[solid frigate]

ah yes the Skill Check move

[shadow wind]

That is true.

[solid frigate]

Greninja is use if you wanna help Mausape+Maus Archa and you don't wanna use Primarina

[shadow wind]

If I had to guess the set it would be something like this.

[midnight bison]

seems like hes gonna be hard to fit in the meta then, primarina hyper voice OP

[chrome knot]

@modern harbor for a local the team name is fear-based art i need mon nicknames now

[slate hollow]

well guys
been playing showdown for a week and i haven't won yet

[shadow wind]

Greninja @ Loaded Dice
Ability: Protean
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Water Shuriken
• Dark Pulse
• Ice Beam
• Protect

[slate hollow]

[solid frigate]

Its not OP its just consistent

Like Liquid Voice+STAB

[solid frigate]

this set is alright

[midnight bison]

i use the term loosely but ur right

[solid frigate]

what is your team

[midnight bison]

what elo are u in

[slate hollow]

i dunno and i dunno

[midnight bison]

xdd

[slate hollow]

im very stupid and autistic

[midnight bison]

might be important to konw ur own team if ur playing showdown... 💀

[solid frigate]

I am Autistic yet here i am

just show your team-

[slate hollow]

i was playing on random

i dont play sv so i was doing gen 8

[midnight bison]

oh

[slate hollow]

im not very good at it

im not very good at like
any video game

[solid frigate]

I can't blame you but still

[slate hollow]

i might be a failure

[molten oasis]

Ah ok

[solid frigate]

why do i feel like its trolling...

[slate hollow]

no

i just have very low self esteem

[molten oasis]

Tf is going on

[solid frigate]

idk Therapy???

[slate hollow]

been going for five years

but i'm not here to yap about my problems

[solid frigate]

then how do you want to Improve then

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/confusion-confused-look-questions-why-why-me-gif-17660966

[slate hollow]

i dunno how

ive been playing shield for like five years

and im still bad

[solid frigate]

Randbat is kinda hard to improve

But SWSH Comp is kinda out of the water since we play SV

[molten oasis]

Play S/V?

[slate hollow]

no

[solid frigate]

HAZE GRENINJA LETS GOOO

I KNEW IT CAN WORK

[molten oasis]

So you don’t want to improve but you also don’t want to move on from SWSH???

[slate hollow]

i do want to improve

[modern harbor]

i hate heat wave

[molten oasis]

I meant do mb

[modern harbor]

heat wave miss lost me the game

[slate hollow]

but start with a game i actually know a little about

[molten oasis]

There’s no way to do that

[midnight bison]

s/v is not a different language, should be easy to pick up

[molten oasis]

The people that play SWDH are weirdos and not good players

[solid frigate]

we all do that when we transition to SV

[slate hollow]

well if that's the case i'm illetirate

[midnight bison]

now it sounds like trolling

[solid frigate]

Yep

[molten oasis]

It’s trolling at this rate

You wanna improve in the game no one plays

Which makes 0 sense

[midnight bison]

this channel is in a category called scarlet & violet

[foggy lodge]

probably is better to start playing showdown

[midnight bison]

lol

[molten oasis]

That also works yea

[foggy lodge]

Reg H looks like a good reg to start

[solid frigate]

Even Keon knows

[foggy lodge]

Unlike reg G which is kinda hard imo

[midnight bison]

i started vgc like a few days ago 💀

[molten oasis]

Reg g is hard due to its volatility

[midnight bison]

its fun so far tho

[solid frigate]

and Power Levels

[foggy lodge]

And we are going back to reg G after reg H help

[midnight bison]

reg g doesnt look fun from the perspective of a new player, legendaries and paradox in every team

not a lot of variety

[foggy lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/wes-fall-to-knees-scream-gif-27602552

[slate hollow]

that's what im playing on

[midnight bison]

ogerpon on every team 😭

[slate hollow]

im just bad

[foggy lodge]

people are just going to spam Luca's team

[midnight bison]

ur not even playing in the right gamemode bro ur playing gen 8 random

how can u say ur bad

[solid frigate]

Its kinda like you have to know these few stuff

• Understanding in the Meta
• How to Teambuild(Could manage Later)
• How to anaylse the threats you in
• Use Rentals as a Starting point

[foggy lodge]

Which is not bad because is not like the team is broken and if you don't how to play it its shit but i know people will do that xd

[shadow wind]

Didn't people already?

[midnight bison]

im ignoring the teambuild part for now and just focusing on the meta and understanding what every individual pokemon's identity is

like identity in their team comp

[solid frigate]

I'm Not i'm still using My Miraidon Team lol

Maybe i can just use Riley Factura's Team

[foggy lodge]

kinda

[solid frigate]

see you got into the right track,good for you

[foggy lodge]

I always thought the Miraidon tera fairy was a fraud

[midnight bison]

hydreigon has been hard bc some ppl just use him for tailwind, some ppl go full crit and one shot me 💀

[foggy lodge]

I got cooked

[slate hollow]

because i have low self-esteem and i say i'm gonna do horrible things to myself when i lose at anything

[solid frigate]

its not really

I like Dgleam over Discharge

[foggy lodge]

Depends on the team for me

[solid frigate]

Its more like do you want to build around discharge or not

[foggy lodge]

For example Seijun's team in worlds was a pretty free tera electric discharge xd

A Volt absorb Pachirisu and a Farigiraf tera ground

Why does that Miraidon doesn't have discharge

[cyan smelt]

Everyone on cart ladder is a CTS warrior

[solid frigate]

yeah but like you don't wanna get choice Locked by Flutter and Tera Ground lol

[chrome knot]

oh no bruh💀

[solid frigate]

thats why its bad lol

[molten oasis]

Fun fact, VGC is fun, and not random and literally RELIANT on luck

Like gen 8 randoms is

[midnight bison]

what 😭

[chrome knot]

bc pachi is to win the mirror walling opposing mirai & raging bolts

freeing up mirai moveslot to be able to go fairy gleam set

[molten oasis]

You shouldn’t be playing then?

[shadow wind]

Unfortunately Pachi explodes to dgleam.

[chrome knot]

not the point

[slate hollow]

i won't be happy until i win

[molten oasis]

That’s a bad mindset

Goal should be to learn where you’re currently at

[shadow wind]

About the mindset I have when it's 2 am and I just lost 5 games in a row.

[foggy lodge]

Ah that actually makes sense

[solid frigate]

its kinda Half true..

For Newcomers,People wanna use their favourites to win but without necessary skill its hard

So kinda start by using more Meta-based stuff,but also you gotta deal with it once you get the hang of the meta

[molten oasis]

Sure it does suck to lose I get that, but if you’re focused on winning and not learning you’re never going to improve

[slate hollow]

no point in learning if you don't win

[chrome knot]

@modern harbor take a screwdriver and brutally gouge my eyes out

[solid frigate]

You do still learn when you lose

[shadow wind]

Gouging fire my eyes out more like.

[midnight bison]

i mean not even newcomers right
the top 8 teams from the tournament this weekend looked to have pretty similar decks iirc

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/linokisser-gif-reaction-tiktok-alien-gif-21656547

[modern harbor]

???

[slate hollow]

no point in learning if you don't win

[solid frigate]

are you sure? cuz this top 8 feels not as standard

[slate hollow]

i really dont know what else to say

[chrome knot]

i can’t stand looking at chat anymore take me OUT

[modern harbor]

LOL

[midnight bison]

maybe im misremembering

[molten oasis]

Brother, TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE mindset

[shadow wind]

Minder

[molten oasis]

Shut up

[solid frigate]

pfft

[modern harbor]

sunshine is a ranked master now !

[chrome knot]

yippie

way to go sunshine

[solid frigate]

is there a Phobia about Fear of Losing

cuz that guy has that

[shadow wind]

It's crazy how many teams have haze but I feel like I never see dozo.

[chrome knot]

earned nearly 150 champ points and hit master rank lmao

[slate hollow]

yeah, i've tried to be different since i was, like, three years old

[chrome knot]

and how old are you now

[molten oasis]

Yk what’s behind success

[shadow wind]

More success.

[molten oasis]

Failure, and lots of it shut up man

[chrome knot]

LOL

[solid frigate]

shut it conner lol

[chrome knot]

more success goes hard

[modern harbor]

i actually learned so much from being at wcs

[shadow wind]

😔

[slate hollow]

fourteen

[modern harbor]

lol

[chrome knot]

hell yeah you go girl

[shadow wind]

To get to finals you need to win your bracket !!

[modern harbor]

they pick moves i never even thought of

way more switching than i thought

[midnight bison]

nvm ur right i was looking at reg g ladder not the actual tournament

[chrome knot]

yus

boardstate is extremely important

[modern harbor]

and with weather and tr and fakeout its good to think a few turns ahead

[chrome knot]

they also play to win games instead of trying to win every turn

[solid frigate]

Conner and Drago dynamic is funny asf

[shadow wind]

I'm just hangin' around.

[modern harbor]

its hard tho bc a lot of cart ladder teams are just SO damaging there arents many good switches

[chrome knot]

its also

best of 1 cts

[solid frigate]

nah nah you're good man

[modern harbor]

maybe the fact that im running necrozma doesnt help but still

[shadow wind]

Meant it in a chill way don't worry.

[modern harbor]

i also cant believe people have started running anti psyspam caly s 😭

[chrome knot]

that team kinda gets comfy and sweeps unless you play psyspam how Ruby and I do

[modern harbor]

and focus sash

i met ruby!!

[chrome knot]

yay!!

we plan on hangin out in toronto a bunch for their locals this szn

[nocturne holly]

Honestly vgc is like chess

[modern harbor]

lowkey some of the vgc community was annoying tho

[chrome knot]

yes

[shadow wind]

Guys I think I have come up with tech. Tera normal skeledirge.

[chrome knot]

some very insufferable players :3

[modern harbor]

they were backseating the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS like bro

[solid frigate]

reasoning?

[nocturne holly]

FUCK no

[modern harbor]

lets see you up there

[chrome knot]

AHAGAHAHAHAHAAAA YOU UNDERSTAND MY PAIN

[shadow wind]

STAB Slack off !!!

[atomic mural]

Genius.

[solid frigate]

yeah fuck this i ain't

[chrome knot]

AT REGIONALS THE CROWD CONJURE THE WORST PLAYS IMAGINABLE

[shadow wind]

Nah but it's cause it only has 1 weakness and he is fat.

[nocturne holly]

Every community has some annoying populus to an extent

[molten oasis]

You’re not helping either

[shadow wind]

I found it the best for my team anyway.

[midnight bison]

i swear every esport has these people 💀

[modern harbor]

like first of all ur not all that and second im truing to watch and listen to the match >:(

[midnight bison]

its like once u make it up there maybe i will listen to you until then pls 🤫

[chrome knot]

third of all their plays are all ass

[molten oasis]

Oh he’s gone? Epic

[slate hollow]

so

[midnight bison]

..

[shadow wind]

I also can't think of a better tera type for my Dirge. I just wanted one that didn't pop.

[modern harbor]

bro like

[nocturne holly]

Just like go grass

[slate hollow]

no

[shadow wind]

Incin then becomes bad bad.

[slate hollow]

my wifi kicked out for a few minutes

[modern harbor]

they would say "he just surging strikes here and wins" and then cue the opponent doing something that had they made that play they would have lost

[nocturne holly]

Incin is already bad bad

[midnight bison]

i see a lot of grass tera, is that bc of spore immunity?

[shadow wind]

And rage powder.

[chrome knot]

LMAOOO

[nocturne holly]

Did you spectate worlds,

[modern harbor]

yes

[chrome knot]

she was there like in person like woooaaaahhhhh

[nocturne holly]

Oh nice that must’ve been a great experience

[chrome knot]

go to Anaheim

[midnight bison]

where was it?

[chrome knot]

queue it up

[nocturne holly]

Hawaii

[midnight bison]

oh shi

[nocturne holly]

Where is Anaheim bro

[chrome knot]

Cali

[midnight bison]

cali man

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/shark-tale-point-out-lets-go-come-on-oscar-gif-15881952

[modern harbor]

it was awesome

[shadow wind]

https://pokepast.es/b419e3c9e1ca0261 - Like I just don't really know for Dirge tera.

[nocturne holly]

Tf TWO CALI WORLDS??

[modern harbor]

anaheim is just la lol

[next stump]

spectating live events hype until you have to smell the average pokemon player

[modern harbor]

i remember seeing tera fairy before

[nocturne holly]

LMAOO

[chrome knot]

O HELL NOOOO LOOOOOL

[shadow wind]

I dislike fairy cause of Dengo.

[modern harbor]

BRO DURING ONE OF THE MATCHES THE GUY NEXT TO ME SMELLED LIKE SHIT

[nocturne holly]

Great

[modern harbor]

AND NOT IN A METAPHORICAL WAY

[nocturne holly]

*grass

[modern harbor]

like bro GO TO THE BATHROOM AND TAKE A SHIT

[shadow wind]

Grass got a lot of weaknesses.

[nocturne holly]

Still like one of the best Tera’s lol

And removes your water rock and ground weakness

[shadow wind]

I'm running goggles anyway.

[craggy dagger]

[nocturne holly]

Then prob fairy

[modern harbor]

fairy water dark and ghost are all s tier tho

[midnight bison]

safety googles is effect immunity?

[nocturne holly]

Water

[chrome knot]

what do you want!!!!!!

[midnight bison]

like burn poison wtv

[nocturne holly]

Spore immunity

[modern harbor]

no

[shadow wind]

I tried water and hated how every team had Rillaboom.

[nocturne holly]

Powder move immunity

[modern harbor]

any powders or spores

[shadow wind]

And sand.

[craggy dagger]

boop

[midnight bison]

powders spore and sandstorm, thats it?

[nocturne holly]

then don’t tera in front of it

[modern harbor]

also emma i am on a flight and it is in my bag but i will send u steenee code card later

[shadow wind]

Easy to say that but when gholdengo is staring you down then make a decision.

[modern harbor]

i hav 3 of them and 2 are used so i might send u wrong one lol

[nocturne holly]

Tera can bite you in the back

then go grasssssssssss

[molten oasis]

Play better

[chrome knot]

no worries !!

[modern harbor]

for me, A tier teras are like fire, ground, bug on electric types, dragon, steel

[craggy dagger]

on what

[shadow wind]

Would say I've played pretty better.

[craggy dagger]

which one are you-

[shadow wind]

Wait this alt's name doesn't even make sense I don't use sinistcha.

[craggy dagger]

you can’t be all theee-

[shadow wind]

MisschaGotcha.

From when I did use Sinistcha.

[dapper crag]

Move: Matcha Gotcha

Has a 20% chance to burn the target. The user recovers 1/2 the HP lost by the target, rounded half up. If Big Root is held by the user, the HP recovered is 1.3x normal, rounded half down. The target thaws out if it is frozen.

Type

Grass

Category

Special

Power

80

Accuracy

90

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Defrost

Thaws the user if frozen.

Heal

Cannot be selected under Heal Block.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[modern harbor]

90 acc moves are PAINFUL

[shadow wind]

Now imagine Groudon.

😔

[modern harbor]

like meteor beam is so good for incin but FUCK missing it and losing immediately lol

[shadow wind]

Yeah that's why I have ditched meteor beam for a less offensive build.

[modern harbor]

same

[shadow wind]

Toxic stalling 🤪

[modern harbor]

NOOOOOOO

singles ahhh

[midnight bison]

wheres the salt cure attttt

[shadow wind]

Dondozo gaming I swear.

[modern harbor]

ok but at least the vgc community isnt as bad as the competitive singles community

wasnt dozo in top 4 💀

[solid frigate]

i kinda beat that shit in randbats

[shadow wind]

I think so?

My current team is dozo with tspikes and screens. It's fun I swear.

[modern harbor]

i hate how tatsugiri is like

[shadow wind]

Probably not to play against though.

[modern harbor]

japanese name but its name in japanese isnt tatsugiri

[shadow wind]

I like my unaware setup mon.

[solid frigate]

what the hell are you doing-

Plus Amoonguss kinda does stuff

[shadow wind]

Winning 💥 💥

I just thought that a slow bulky team would be good for this nuke meta.

And it definitely has been.

I also think Skeledirge is underrated.

[chrome knot]

@modern harbor i need nicknames

[modern harbor]

oop

which mons and what theme

[chrome knot]

pms

[modern harbor]

kk

also ive been liking no attacking move indeedee

[rustic mountain]

iron hands your so versatile, u won worlds w/o an ability and then w/ one

[shadow wind]

The goat.

[chrome knot]

and he used his feet this time

[rustic mountain]

lmao

cool seeing miraidon get it

finals was an interesting set

really could've gone either way, luca jus made a few better calls/plays

[balmy glen]

Tbh

[chrome knot]

preserve cir and force miraidon literally 1 turn earlier

[balmy glen]

The Japanese player had it lol

[molten oasis]

Glad the gen 9 boxart got a dub in its debut gen

[chrome knot]

he had to kill ogerpon

[rustic mountain]

g3 t1 was killer

[chrome knot]

he got the call half correct lmao

[balmy glen]

idk why he didn’t just glacial lance

Or protect hoping for a mistake

Follow me was a huge mistake

[rustic mountain]

yea i was thinking protect moreso

[balmy glen]

That could have been capitalized on

You usually protect when you coaching especially having the fastest mon on the field lol

[rustic mountain]

yea

[chrome knot]

tera fire amoonguss also saves the day

[rustic mountain]

idk tho like its tough, theres so many things each turn to consider nd the pressure mounting

[chrome knot]

so it doesnt fucking explode to ogerpon

[rustic mountain]

like for me seeing certain stuff on the outside vs actually playing the set

its tricky

[solid frigate]

the man itself man

I'm glad Iron Hands won 2 worlds in its debut generation

[rustic mountain]

2 worlds wins in its first 2 legal seasons, iron hands may not be incin useage but its got the worlds win total matched

[solid frigate]

yeah its VERY IMPRESSIVE

[shadow wind]

Incin has won 3 I thought.

[chrome knot]

there were more iron hands than incin in finals

incin was a shit fantasy pick point and laugh at the mfs who picked incin

[rustic mountain]

maybe it does idk i thought it was 2

[shadow wind]

Covert cloak and Clear amulet scammed him.

[solid frigate]

yeah

[rustic mountain]

1 incin in top 8. like that guy was nowhere

[shadow wind]

Threepeat 😔

[rustic mountain]

ahhh ok incin still undisputed goat

[shadow wind]

Just like Ray Rizzo.

[rustic mountain]

lmao

[solid frigate]

yep,Its just not in Honolulu

[shadow wind]

No one has won worlds twice but someone won it 3 times in a row? Bro might be him.

[rustic mountain]

different era but impressive nonetheless

[chrome knot]

my favourite was the italians tweeting they have more wins than US holding up a 3 and gio responding ray rizzo + wolfey is 4😭

[rustic mountain]

[patent marsh]

forgetting ray rizzo 😭

[shadow wind]

Italians got 2 now yeah?

[rustic mountain]

who tf did they think our worlds wins were? lmao wolfey and ray each once?

[shadow wind]

Still waiting for a Canadian world champ 😔

[solid frigate]

At least Miraidon's Sprite Hand Gesture looks like a Italian Hand Gesture

[rustic mountain]

lot of good canadian players. shit navjit almost got there this szn

[shadow wind]

But no champ... yet.

2025 is my year, trust.

[molten oasis]

Maybe next year

[chrome knot]

wait no further

kylan is winning 2025

[chrome knot]

if kylan had opposite side of bracket to mbd instead of wolfey right into mdb i reckon he takes it

[rustic mountain]

they did insanely well, sometimes its unfortunate w/ the luck of the draw

[chrome knot]

kylans my goat

[shadow wind]

Yeah I talked to a Groudon player and he said he got matched into CIR and Kyogres for the first 4 games.

And shockingly they didn't go too well.

[molten oasis]

Maybe it’s karma for playing groudon

[rustic mountain]

yea groudon is a tough one, they had their work cut out for them off bat

[molten oasis]

[balmy glen]

That’s just bringing Groudon moment

[molten oasis]

Kidding, I bet he did the best he could

[shadow wind]

Karma for playing the sickest restricted?

[rustic mountain]

i love groudon its just not great this reg

[chrome knot]

worst (relevant) probably

[shadow wind]

It is not a Gen 9 pokemon.

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-lie-detector-cap-you-are-lying-stop-lying-gif-12198388917433403789

[balmy glen]

U kind of need Gravity on Groudon

If he didn’t have that at least he’s throwing ngl

[shadow wind]

Exeggutor gaming.

[rustic mountain]

[shadow wind]

I'm coping 😔

[chrome knot]

altaria sableye groudon guy

[shadow wind]

Who used that team??

[molten oasis]

Ur mom

[chrome knot]

idk it went 5-3 tho lmao

[shadow wind]

Dang.

[molten oasis]

Don did its best, it’s just, not great lol

[shadow wind]

I mean honestly that team makes sense.

Tera is not for him.

[molten oasis]

I think koraidon did him in tbh

[shadow wind]

Nah, out of tera Groudon smokes Koraidon.

[rustic mountain]

its cool going 5-3 at worlds w/ a restricted like groudon but those players shot themselves in the foot. they prolly go like 6-2 w/ a better restricted

[shadow wind]

Groudon is amazing because of his defensive typing, too bad tera cooks all of that for him.

[molten oasis]

Ground by itself isn’t anything phenomenal

[next stump]

me with origin pulse kyogre going 5-3 💀

[dapper crag]

- [Ground]

Immune

Electric

Resists (0.5x)

Poison, Rock

Neutral damage

Bug, Dark, Dragon, Fairy, Fighting, Fire, Flying, Ghost, Ground, Normal, Psychic, Steel, Stellar

Weak (2x)

Grass, Ice, Water

Type Notes

Ground-types take no damage from Sandstorm.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[molten oasis]

Amazing defensive typing is a stretch

[rustic mountain]

damn still tho 5-3 at the biggest event of the szn is impressive af

[shadow wind]

In sun it isn't weak to water.

[dapper crag]

- [Fairy/Steel]

Immune

Dragon, Poison

Resists (0.25x)

Bug

Resists (0.5x)

Dark, Fairy, Flying, Grass, Ice, Normal, Psychic, Rock

Neutral damage

Electric, Fighting, Ghost, Steel, Stellar, Water

Weak (2x)

Fire, Ground

Type Notes

Steel-types cannot be Poisoned.
Steel-types take no damage from Sandstorm.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[molten oasis]

However

[shadow wind]

Weak to ground.

‼️

[molten oasis]

Bruh I was showing an example of an “amazing” defensive typing

[rustic mountain]

grounds good offensively

defensively, eh

[shadow wind]

Ground on its own is meh.

Ground + sun is 💯

Weak to water? Not anymore. Weak to ice and grass? Those lose to fire.

Too bad tera ruins all my fun.

[molten oasis]

You’re still weak to water man

[shadow wind]

Deals half damage.

[molten oasis]

Only if the weathers up

[shadow wind]

That was implied with me saying Ground + sun...

[chrome knot]

as a common patcon team

here comes my friend pelipper

[shadow wind]

😔

He also ruins my fun.

Just you wait, primals will return.

[chrome knot]

delta stream rayquaza 🔥🔥

[shadow wind]

😔

[solid frigate]

Primordial Sea Kyogre (Not as effective but still

[shadow wind]

Neutralizing gas weezing !!

[chrome knot]

nobody gets weather

[shadow wind]

Red orb got switched for ability shield.

[chrome knot]

you cant do that idt LOL

[shadow wind]

Back to 2010 worlds.

[rustic mountain]

primals seemed miseable, u like needed atleast 1 of them on ur team to win

[solid frigate]

meanwhile Sand and Snow when those Abilities are back in Comp:

Why are we still here,Just to suffer

[shadow wind]

Switching my items however I want.

[rustic mountain]

we need sand and snow setting legends

[chrome knot]

what if im just a humble prankster manual weather setter

[rustic mountain]

🌪️

[shadow wind]

You got ability shield too?

[chrome knot]

yes

[shadow wind]

Shucks.

[chrome knot]

and a lion ladder

[shadow wind]

Then I'm cooked.

[rustic mountain]

[shadow wind]

Groudon Torkoal super team.

Iron ball Groudon.

[rustic mountain]

i should prolly play cart and hit master b4 the szn ends

[chrome knot]

manual set always beats switch ins!!

[shadow wind]

Uhhh.

Altaria gaming.

[rustic mountain]

time to rebuild the worlds winning team

[shadow wind]

Gotta be a rental somewhere.

[rustic mountain]

maybe but i wanna use my shinies

[shadow wind]

Oh fair.

[rustic mountain]

[shadow wind]

Shiny Miraidon !!

[rustic mountain]

i wish haha

hands/giraffe/whims tho

[shadow wind]

I like all those shinies.

[rustic mountain]

yea they all solid

[shadow wind]

Hands pulls off the paint well.

[molten oasis]

252+ SpA Mystic Water Tera-Water Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Groudon in Sun: 204-240 (98.5 - 115.9%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO not weak to water my ass

[rustic mountain]

that and bundle have some of the better shinies for future paradox. oh and iron thorns

[shadow wind]

Might as well have used specs.

[molten oasis]

The point still stands

[rustic mountain]

groudon has thrived in ogre centric formats before. i think its more of its place in the meta overall

[shadow wind]

I blame tera.

[rustic mountain]

jus doesnt do enough vs the top restricteds

[shadow wind]

Where's my Yveltal 😔

[rustic mountain]

also the dynamic of single restricted puts more pressure on groudon to hit its moves

[molten oasis]

POV; Zacian when seeing a groudon

[foggy lodge]

yeh its sad

[shadow wind]

Heat crash ‼️

[foggy lodge]

Groudon did decente at worlds atleast

[shadow wind]

(40 BP)

[foggy lodge]

With the most curious team lol

Altaria sing with Sableye gravity