Rilla/Ursh/Incin/Bolt will be everywhere
#competitive_discussion
next stump
nocturne holly
Are you gonna be playing zama for worlds?
balmy glen
So real
solid frigate
Imagine if Turtle or Miraidon actually Won World I’ll be actually fine with it
Cuz screw Calyrex
balmy glen
I mean can’t do nothing against a mirror in Zama mirror
Zama mirror is one of the most linear mirrors of all
Actually I think it’s the most linear lol
foggy lodge
what does it mean?
solid frigate
Actually I think it’s the most linear lol
meanwhile Miraidon or Turtle
balmy glen
meanwhile Miraidon or Turtle
Those aren’t as linear as Zama mirrors
Especially turtle
Miraidon it depends
solid frigate
still are linear,But i mean you are the Zama guy
balmy glen
I played every restricted
solid frigate
Especially turtle
its like can you Starstorm fast enough lol
balmy glen
Miraidon can be linear if u make it linear but even in the mirror theres other stuff u can do like Iron hands Farig lead to beat the Whim Mirai lead
solid frigate
not me i play CM Cocl Pagos so idk
balmy glen
Where as with Zama you have to lead Zama Chien if both have it lol
solid frigate
just body Press moment
balmy glen
mhm
solid frigate
Unless you have Tera Ghost but even still
usually i fight Zama or Shifu they always convinently have Tera Grass
God damn it thats the last thing i want to see
violet kindle
Hey this my draft team yall would yall use it https://pokepast.es/80feaa692a7f9e44
chrome knot
no god no
solid frigate
What the actual fuck is that-
bold geode
Hey this my draft team yall would yall use it https://pokepast.es/80feaa692a7f9e...
Except for the Ninetales and maybe some minor team adjustments
Maybe
Like it's not great, but it's not horrible
Y'all are way too harsh with that shit
violet kindle
Nine tails was the only drought left
chrome knot
Nine tails was the only drought left
koraidon sets the sun babe
violet kindle
koraidon sets the sun babe
Thats why i have it! But switch in for like rain
bold geode
Nine tails was the only drought left
I don't think you need 2 abilities like that
At most you'd want like Sunny Day Torn
violet kindle
It is the resetter.
chrome knot
rain dance mon
bold geode
Sunny Day Tornadus would've been better than Ninetales here tbh
solid frigate
or even Sunny Day whims but he gets the point hopefully
craggy dagger
hm
nocturne holly
sunny day farigiraf
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
solid frigate
Since when-
craggy dagger
grips your liver
solid frigate
ouch
chrome knot
bold geode
?
bold geode
<a:NekoLaugh:673354487607459854>
Blows up pancakes with mind
solid frigate
Monke uses Psychic!
Its Super Effective!
nocturne holly
cyan smelt
Gonna have to watch out for non prankster taunt with my team
solid frigate
chrome knot
<:YunliStare:1270816983914643496>
hai nova
foggy lodge
Hey this my draft team yall would yall use it https://pokepast.es/80feaa692a7f9e...
could be worse
Are you still playing on that draft or it already ended?
solid frigate
nocturne holly
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2177656271 what the fuck was this
I think I could’ve played that better but I didn’t know what I was playing 😭
multi scale d nite was annoying
well it was alr since I got to lower it so much but dragon darts did way less
cyan smelt
Wp multiscale dnite wut
nocturne holly
Yes lol
foggy lodge
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2177656271 what the fuck was ...
I think in turn 3 you should have fake out the venu
solid frigate
Ddance WP Multiscale sounds pretty confusing to set up lol
nocturne holly
I think in turn 3 you should have fake out the venu
didn’t want to get wisped in case it did have it
cyan smelt
Some weird teams in lower ladder
nocturne holly
Yea I’m out of my testing account
solid frigate
yeah
solid frigate
I climbed decently high elo on it but my gxe was horrid
sad
craggy dagger
molten oasis
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2177697687 the power of boss battle button
chrome knot
We just beat the senior NAIC champion
lets gooo
i just finished ryans worlds team in game
chrome knot
dubs
balmy glen
i just finished ryans worlds team in game
Who’s Ryan
atomic mural
ryan reynolds
solid frigate
bro becomes hyper
bold geode
We just beat the senior NAIC champion
Bro beating up children smfh
atomic mural
Bro beating up children smfh
erm, based?
mighty stump
Bro beating up children smfh
Dude
Kaneoji's one of the best players I have ever played against and this is my first time playing against him
Lol
bold geode
Lmao
solid frigate
Tofu Casually beatin up children’s Pokemon
silver ravine
mighty stump
Well
I wouldn't say it was casual
Ngl my mons clutched it out
I had like 1%/2% lives
and a game-winning Fissure
silver ravine
So you beat a child hardcorely? You monster
atomic mural
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6gC9E2Ff4cc POV: you are Tofu
solid frigate
and a game-winning Fissure
we take those
mighty stump
Well I get ya'll are poking fun at the fact he's not in the Master's division but yeah great player
bold geode
He do be skilled tho
mighty stump
Skilled is an understatement
bold geode
Didn't he runner up LAIC too?
mighty stump
Yep
atomic mural
thats cool
chrome knot
Well I get ya'll are poking fun at the fact he's not in the Master's division bu...
people don’t get it
this chat is mainly casuals
mighty stump
And there's a very obvious trend with Senior's div players being able to transition very well into Master's division, it's not that different
torn parrot
summer bugs keep biting me
mighty stump
I do have to say though someone else used my Snorlax set and won their match too lmao
Snorlax is 3-0 on the board
solid frigate
Just use T-Tar at this point
mighty stump
That's only one rock type
forest arrow
Power spot to boost my rock tera rock slides
solid frigate
i guess Rhyperior has a niche but stonejourner i am not certain
forest arrow
perfect
solid frigate
Power spot to boost my rock tera rock slides
isnt that guy Very Specially weak like 30 SpD or somethin
molten oasis
Just use T-Tar at this point
What a goober this guy
Doesn’t know the sauce of 3 rock types
bold geode
this chat is mainly casuals
Oh no I get it
Dudes DEFINITELY good
But also the joke was there 
mighty stump
Doesn’t know the sauce of 3 rock types
fr
bold geode
Why not 4 Rock types tho
molten oasis
WAIT
solid frigate
Doesn’t know the sauce of 3 rock types
i need context
molten oasis
monke’s cooking, but what if, 5 rock types
chrome knot
Oh no I get it
Dudes DEFINITELY good
But also the joke was there <:KekHands:1251...
no i just think ur all idiots unless you play the irl circuit
mighty stump
There is no context
mighty stump
no i just think ur all idiots unless you play the irl circuit
Wow
forest arrow
lmao
mighty stump
Wowww
solid frigate
monke’s cooking, but what if, 5 rock types
all Rock types 
mighty stump
Emma just say you hate me
bold geode
no i just think ur all idiots unless you play the irl circuit
So Tofu's an idiot 
chrome knot
Emma just say you hate me
YOURE THE EXCEPTION YOU DUNCE
mighty stump
YAY
chrome knot
ornch name or be keanu
bold geode
I mean I am an idiot, but I at least know SOMETHING hopefully
molten oasis
YOURE THE EXCEPTION YOU DUNCE
Tf did I do
mighty stump
Exist
molten oasis
Wooow
solid frigate
torn parrot
may i please not be an idiot
mighty stump
mighty stump
bold geode
Tofu those aren't GIFs right
mighty stump
You're a GIF
solid frigate
Wingull after eating a Hyper Beam moment
bold geode
Dog
mighty stump
G - Very
I - Bad VGC
F - Player
chrome knot
Tf did I do
bold geode
Wow
Great breakdown of GIF buddy
solid frigate
bold geode
https://tenor.com/view/iron-leaves-pokemon-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-gif-455197...
But fr I don't think that "oh you don't play the circuit so you're not serious"
Issues do arise so
mighty stump
Okay kids settle down
bold geode
Okay kids settle down
But DAAAAD
mighty stump
The only intelligent one here is me
cyan smelt
Gatekeeping much
bold geode
sends Monke outside
solid frigate
I’m just gonna
atomic mural
But DAAAAD
"they started it!"
solid frigate
leaves
chrome knot
Gatekeeping much
not really, im just not interested in what someone who only plays 1300 ladder has to say on most days
torn parrot
bold geode
That's pretentious AF ngl
cyan smelt
Australia doesn't really have a vgc scene so I can't exactly play irl circuit
chrome knot
you get to join tofu
torn parrot
you guys
this convo is bad vibes
cyan smelt
There's 4 regionals a year
mighty stump
You guys have regionals?
chrome knot
my country technically has 2 a year lol
cyan smelt
Singapore has nationals
solid frigate
I’m just lurking
bold geode
Oh yeah I forgot Asia does their Nationals weird shit
mighty stump
Locals are also self-arranged
chrome knot
you guys
this convo is bad vibes
im a good hater :3
cyan smelt
I think tcg is bigger here than vgc
molten oasis
We have one Nationals
Better win
bold geode
im a good hater :3
Thing is I don't think there even SHOULD be hate
bold geode
Hate can breed toxicity, which is why game communities become fuckin shitty to be a part of
cyan smelt
I should just participate in a regional next year even if I suck and lose all my games
molten oasis
Nationals is over this year lol
I mean next year
solid frigate
I think tcg is bigger here than vgc
honestly the same can be said in Manchester as well
Tcg feels more popular here than VGC
and the twitter admin still did not give me the Server link therefore I can’t join Locals ;-;
chrome knot
Hate can breed toxicity, which is why game communities become fuckin shitty to b...
people named hate and toxicity
mighty stump
As much as I want to make VGC as accessible as possible I also believe in gatekeeping things
Cause there are natural gatekeeps
bold geode
people named hate and toxicity
You say this and say we talk nonsense?
chrome knot
You say this and say we talk nonsense?
in game nonsense u dunce
mighty stump
I can spoonfeed you as much info as you need but it doesn't change the fact if you can't apply it you're still gonna suck and not have a good time
molten oasis
I have been applying that info
mighty stump
And then mindset also matters
Being able to hop in discussion with a certain approach
molten oasis
It’s helpful, I’m winning games again, learning too which is the goal rn, but I’m taking more games now
bold geode
Yeah but just flat out saying "hey you don't play irl circuit, then you're not serious at all"
Like oh yeah the thing I've been working my entire ass off for is just fucking irrelevant
cyan smelt
My gxe is up from when I started so at least I'm improving
chrome knot
because half the time i see this chat its idiots waffling over fucking AIR
mighty stump
There is also a trend of people having to convince the other person of that they are right and the other are wrong whenever they disagree
Instead of being able to
molten oasis
cough
cyan smelt
I'm just here to have fun and improve
I was toxic before but I don't want to be like that anymore
solid frigate
Im just here
bold geode
Yeah
I just feel like sometimes points need to be said
Anyways I'm gonna go work on a blog that goes over something I don't give a fuck about
mighty stump
The "suit yourself" approach is a very good one I highly recommend
cyan smelt
Nothing could be as bad as when ray and Jaysp were here
mighty stump
Oh
torn parrot
i really hate those guys
mighty stump
Disclaimer
I am going to contradict everything I just said
Fuck those two pisspads
torn parrot
despite being the same exact person
chrome knot
lmfao
torn parrot
on alt accounts
mighty stump
Holy shit
forest arrow
lmfAO
mighty stump
I have never hated
chrome knot
me when im 1 person arguing with myself
solid frigate
i might ask the context but damn
atomic mural
i might ask the context but damn
same
mighty stump
On this living planet
torn parrot
everyone on earth can agree with that statement
mighty stump
On the account of life having started a bajillion years ago
I'm pretty sure I have seen microflora causing nothing but pain inside a dog's ear tell me more useful information
solid frigate
Maya can you tell me the details cuz idk what the fuck happened
mighty stump
Than the absolute fucking waffleshit I have had to read
cyan smelt
He was a guy with two alts and he would start arguments and the alt would back him up
solid frigate
He was a guy with two alts and he would start arguments and the alt would back h...
1.Why bother
2.Bro being so pathetic that is just Ridiculous
I might hate them more than i hate someone that i am not teling any names
torn parrot
Maya can you tell me the details cuz idk what the fuck happened
theres a really toxic guy jaysp who would constantly lie and spread nonsense and pretend to be other people and fake his acheivments and use his alt account to back himself up in arguments
he's stil around to this day on like a random league server with like 5 alts and makes a new one every time he's found out
mighty stump
I'm relatively patient and I'm fairly good at just going away to do something else if I don't like something but in the holy name of our Heavenly Father if I saw those two ever again I will approach them with the fury of a spiked baseball bat
Fucker actually also lied about Justin Tang being his coach and saying "ackhchualy replay reviews are pointless" and I literally just went
cyan smelt
Jaysp is actually some Filipino YouTuber or something
mighty stump
OK
solid frigate
theres a really toxic guy jaysp who would constantly lie and spread nonsense and...
if Tofu hates him that much then i probably go to next Level-
Bro is even more Scammy than Verlis
bold geode
Fucker actually also lied about Justin Tang being his coach and saying "ackhchua...
Nah wtf was the dudes name hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Allegro also I think it was?
torn parrot
he actually went around saying he was justin tang's alt for a bit lol
bold geode
Mr MMR
solid frigate
he actually went around saying he was justin tang's alt for a bit lol
bro ain’t doing Indentity Fraud without noticing
mighty stump
We actually have a more recent person in the name of Witty be here recently and they're basically along the same lines of people
chrome knot
he actually went around saying he was justin tang's alt for a bit lol
funny
craggy dagger
meow-?
chrome knot
hai nova
mighty stump
I do not care if they read this the first impression was stupid and enough
bold geode
We actually have a more recent person in the name of Witty be here recently and ...
Lemme ping em.....
solid frigate
We actually have a more recent person in the name of Witty be here recently and ...
oh yeah that….. i think i was here when he yap about dog shit
mighty stump
I mean if you want to start an argument where Mods have to be involved then sure
bold geode
mighty stump
But I have better things to do on my day off
bold geode
Yeah write blog shithead
cyan smelt
Write blog monke
torn parrot
theres an innate power inside of him to invoke pure rage and frusteration
craggy dagger
steals your leg😭
mrrr-??
torn parrot
its amazing really
bold geode
Write blog monke
Write Deez Nuts bro
solid frigate
There’s a person around regularly rn too
don’t tell me is that guy
Or is it someone else
cyan smelt
Ig part of vgc is trying to tune out all the bad takes
craggy dagger
got ur noseeee
hissss-
solid frigate
Ig part of vgc is trying to tune out all the bad takes
its just,Sometimes people can be dumbasses
azure ether
monke are you still cooking that Zama team
torn parrot
phew i need to go do something positive
cyan smelt
I don't mind if people don't know any better, but if they're actively spreading misinformation or stubbornly saying something is viable when it's not then it's gonna be a problem
molten oasis
don’t tell me is that guy
Or is it someone else
Yk who I’m talking about
@mighty stump does normal ursaluna need 0 speed?
mighty stump
<@250386799363489808> does normal ursaluna need 0 speed?
Depends
solid frigate
Yk who I’m talking about
That guy can just
bold geode
monke are you still cooking that Zama team
I'm doing Reg H now
Although literally Reg G comes back after H so just wait til then
bold geode
Pre prepped content
mighty stump
Pre prepped content
Me with Reg H with all my Reg A knowledge
bold geode
Lmao
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/97782e5c26419728 Alr does normal Ursa need 0 speed on this team?
chrome knot
i think your funny queen
whaaa i think ur bunny queen
molten oasis
You got it
mighty stump
I see no problem either way
molten oasis
Less grinding for me, does the team look ok?
cyan smelt
There's no way I'd use my reg a team for reg h because it sucked
solid frigate
Just throw some Reg A Knowledge and add some funni Reg F stuff
bold geode
Nah Tofu I said I felt bad for not posting this last Zamazenta team then I realized "wait Reg G comes back, pre prepped content"
molten oasis
Rotom is just, peli answer, cuz peli mu sucks balls lol
mighty stump
Less grinding for me, does the team look ok?
No clue I'm prepping for my Region Rumble match
molten oasis
Oh ok
azure ether
I'll just hope we won't get last minute Reg G locals here
solid frigate
probably not
cyan smelt
My reg a team died to rage fist and other stuff
azure ether
I only have the specs Turtle and Rajan Bal Mir teams to use 
solid frigate
im still experimenting Hisuian Typhlosion moments
solid frigate
I only have the specs Turtle and Rajan Bal Mir teams to use <:KEKW:7941391725829...
so both Specs moment
molten oasis
I’m so happy for a reg g break
cyan smelt
I should post my reg g team up in rentals, I'll do it once I get to top 500
molten oasis
Reg g, is not that fun lol
molten oasis
Ok what are you using
solid frigate
I'm actually doing well in it
I might share my new Terapagos team in January cuz I haven’t shown the sauce and Team Report on it
cyan smelt
Zama, rilla, urshifu rapid, chien Pao, torn, skeledirge
molten oasis
You use the better dog no shit you’re having fun lol
cyan smelt
It's still a tier below miraidon and both calys though
azure ether
god I hope Unseen Fist gets nerfed next gen
cyan smelt
Make it nerf the damage if target protects
solid frigate
Zama, rilla, urshifu rapid, chien Pao, torn, skeledirge
Is it Tera ghost or Tera Grass for Zama
cyan smelt
I think I should go tera grass
solid frigate
yep I’m dead
cyan smelt
I was running tera fire because will o wisp was annoying but that's bad against urshifu r
molten oasis
Well, I do love a good mu into ice rider at the very least
Although well played CIR can beat anything
bold geode
I'll just hope we won't get last minute Reg G locals here
If you do have any coming up lmk and I'll try to get something going hopefully
So you can at least use it for that
chrome knot
I'll just hope we won't get last minute Reg G locals here
me when aug24th local
molten oasis
Why the fuck do entire families walk into a restaurant at 10 pm
solid frigate
Well, I do love a good mu into ice rider at the very least
meanwhile me:half of my team is weak to Ice
bold geode
Why the fuck do entire families walk into a restaurant at 10 pm
Cuz hungy
molten oasis
lemme do nothing in peace
mighty stump
Meh lost Region Rumble
solid frigate
F
mighty stump
Unlucky sleep turns/misses but it's ball
Now I can relax
And also move on to Reg H
molten oasis
Meh lost Region Rumble
Was that the last reg g thing you were doing, this week?
mighty stump
Yeah Region Rumble and OPL
Team didn't make playoffs for RR I think but OPL is going alr
So far somehow I managed to stay undefeated
in OPL
molten oasis
Snorlax is god
mighty stump
Normal types carry me
Terapagos and Snorlax
Shoutouts to Maushold and BM Ursaluna
and Farigiraf
molten oasis
What about normal bear?
molten oasis
I hate indeedee lol
Psyspam archetype, is not something I’ve ever enjoyed playing against
Good thing we have rillaboom now
molten oasis
Oh true
mighty stump
Rilla can't take +1 Armor Cannon
molten oasis
Ttar is so annoying for armarouge
Idk, strong spread special attackers just kinda piss me off
Harder to slow them down, especially the horse 
mighty stump
You know what does beat Ttar as a Fire-type though
TERA-FIGHTING CC INCINEROAR @chrome knot
chrome knot
NO
cyan smelt
based
atomic mural
IM MAKING THE TEAM
LETS GOOO
molten oasis
TERA-FIGHTING CC INCINEROAR <@224303371564220418>
Why you like CC Incin so much?
nocturne holly
cc arc>>>
chrome knot
Why you like CC Incin so much?
hes a lunatic
he sent me another rogue idea in pms it was literally cc incin in disguise
spiral ridge
God speed
molten oasis
he sent me another rogue idea in pms it was literally cc incin in disguise
Ofc he did lol
spiral ridge
looks at your lungs
They’re still there
chrome knot
not anymore
spiral ridge
At least get a good market price on them
They’re clean I’m an innocent boy no tar on them
chrome knot
a crisp US $20 bill
spiral ridge
You are shit at bartering <3
chrome knot
scotty wanna see the card i got today that i literally traded for paying my regional registration :3
i made a profit today
spiral ridge
Sure!
chrome knot
fezanskibidi
spiral ridge
I need to sign up for Baltimore I forgot to..
spiral ridge
fezanskibidi
I had this exact yuigoh mat
chrome knot
it was jus the stores
spiral ridge
But that fezan is cool :)
chrome knot
i have my iron valiant tcg mat :3
spiral ridge
Ooo
chrome knot
got from knoxville
spiral ridge
I never got into tcg but did collect
chrome knot
i also havesies the orlando walkin wake one
rustic mountain
I need to sign up for Baltimore I forgot to..
sorry u cant, they jus released a statement
because scotty didnt register by midnight august 10th ur banned for life from their facilities
spiral ridge
Motherfucker my heart stopped those first 3 words
spiral ridge
The comma made it seem like actually formal 😭
Like it was some genuine info
Punctuation having ass
rustic mountain
spiral ridge
It’s 1 am for me but I’m genuinely so anxious now that shits getting done tomorrow 😭
chrome knot
scotty go kentucky in october
rustic mountain
yea id do it asap, i think spots r still open but def dont wanna chance it
spiral ridge
Anyways as I was typing before that cus I deleted out of fear I am going in expecting to do absolute shit and am more going to just try it out
totally not cus I joked about it and nova peer pressured me into it
spiral ridge
scotty go kentucky in october
I can not drive let alone to Kentucky I’m like 40 from Baltimore
chrome knot
nuts
rustic mountain
i wouldnt really put an expectation on it, jus play pokemon and be as confident as u can be
spiral ridge
Yeah
I wonder if o should go with this gallade team to do purely for fun or actually give it a go and start trying some more meta teams
Well if I’m doing purely for fun it’s the gothitelle team 😭
chrome knot
listen to this song youll win asf https://open.spotify.com/track/0Gsis1GcDagl5Gb1Bv8kCd?si=nuFzWs56QKmAPJSiYhwd_Q&context=spotify%3Aalbum%3A45yX5o8qtuqwJDhwj3ZDYi
rustic mountain
I wonder if o should go with this gallade team to do purely for fun or actually ...
id say to try and take it more serious but its up to u at the end of the day
spiral ridge
listen to this song youll win asf https://open.spotify.com/track/0Gsis1GcDagl5Gb...
The embed failed but I fucking knew it 😭
spiral ridge
id say to try and take it more serious but its up to u at the end of the day
Yeah fair
chrome knot
The embed failed but I fucking knew it 😭
LOL
rustic mountain
like def still can try and have fun but if ur gna make the effort to drive and pay $ id take it more serious
jus a suggestion
spiral ridge
Yeah fair. I’m assuming there’ll also be cool stores to check out aswell
chrome knot
nope i sold mine
rustic mountain
Yeah fair. I’m assuming there’ll also be cool stores to check out aswell
they have like plushies and merch there
molten oasis
nope i sold mine
You sold ur brain?
rustic mountain
i didnt really check it out wen i went to my 1 and only regional haha
chrome knot
yeah
molten oasis
Fair enough
chrome knot
they have like plushies and merch there
my wallet
rustic mountain
haha
molten oasis
How much did you get?
chrome knot
thinkin abt lurantis tattoo is it too niche to get a tattoo of her lil like wings on her back
spiral ridge
You are 0 for 2 girl
chrome knot
You are 0 for 2 girl
its a $70 card that i sold for $100
spiral ridge
thinkin abt lurantis tattoo is it too niche to get a tattoo of her lil like wing...
Go for full thing 
spiral ridge
its a $70 card that i sold for $100
Oh I thought you made up a price for how much you sold your brain for 😭
rustic mountain
molten oasis
That’s so much worse
chrome knot
its my brain so practically a steal
spiral ridge
This is what I mean by 0 for 2
chrome knot
he’s have to pay you to take it
spiral ridge
He better pay me
molten oasis
Exactly lol
spiral ridge
Thank you Emma
chrome knot
im gonna go to bed
molten oasis
Gn
molten oasis
What are you gonna do with 18 arms
chrome knot
pet 18 bunnies
molten oasis
Based
chrome knot
at the same time btw
molten oasis
Well I figured as much
spiral ridge
Gn bun
chrome knot
gn bean
molten oasis
Yo I’m ngl
molten oasis
I think incin sini Ursa is a pretty solid
Like as a core
Keeping the bear alive is pretty helpful
mighty stump
Pelipper tho
mighty stump
thinkin abt lurantis tattoo is it too niche to get a tattoo of her lil like wing...
I have no clue what sort of pokemon tattoo i want
molten oasis
Pelipper tho
We can make something to handle pelipper
Like uh, Rotom 
I miss raging bolt
mighty stump
You don’t miss Bolt’s friends you got brainwashed
molten oasis
You don’t miss Bolt’s friends you got brainwashed
i never said i didn't miss urshifu
i miss urshifu plenty
i dont miss the stupid horse if thats what you're refering to
strange fjord
🐝
knotty mirage
Hmm let's see no iron hand and raging bolt yeah i'm not sure
strange fjord
ttar?
molten oasis
meh
if ttar loses the weather war i think peli just wins
and peli can just wide guard rocks
knotty mirage
i miss urshifu plenty
Tbh i might miss urshifu too that thing def help hyper offense alot
strange fjord
sand breaks sash and threaten birb. forcing a swap most time or taking a KO
molten oasis
sand breaks sash and threaten birb. forcing a swap most time or taking a KO
wide guard
not leading peli
strange fjord
knock off is all you really need to KO pelipper. and you can swap into Pelipper so you also dont need to lead ttar
knotty mirage
sand breaks sash and threaten birb. forcing a swap most time or taking a KO
With reg H power level i wonder will people more likely to use covert cloak pelliper again
molten oasis
252+ SpA Pelipper Weather Ball (100 BP Water) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Tyranitar in Rain: 152-182 (73.4 - 87.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO but also
peli wins that battle
strange fjord
also AV Arch kills pelipper no? Electro Shot in rain would force a tera on birb or death
molten oasis
if it gets control
molten oasis
also AV Arch kills pelipper no? Electro Shot in rain would force a tera on birb ...
who is running eshot without peli
and infact arch can make ttar's life hard as well
torn parrot
i guess you just gotta brute force a peliper
molten oasis
probably
knotty mirage
Isn't there some people who run red herb archludon
molten oasis
best non restricted hoenn mon ig
strange fjord
252+ SpA Pelipper Weather Ball (100 BP Rock) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Tyranitar in Sand: 23-28 (11.1 - 13.5%) -- possible 8HKO
molten oasis
again man
strange fjord
ttar slower than pelipper
molten oasis
bruh
strange fjord
wins weather war
molten oasis
i give up
this conversation is so subjective and you're putting it on a t1 situation
so yk waht you win
👍
torn parrot
i will say peliper has a very annoying typing
its a good thing that its frail
molten oasis
moving on has anyone tried out rotom?
mighty stump
Water/Flying unironically good
molten oasis
yea
mighty stump
Rotom is alr
molten oasis
besides the electric weakness, which is manageable
strange fjord
Rotom seems fun. might experiment later with it
molten oasis
theres just, no electric types and thats the one i feel like would do best
that or killowatrel
oh electabuzz too
pawmot ig
anyway mostly looking for answers cuz my current team does not like facing pelipper at all
ig freeze dry guys are also something but
theres like, a9 lol
and lapras ig
cyan smelt
rotom-wash
craggy dagger
tera electric blast 
molten oasis
tera electric blast <:RobinShrug:1220551396693381220>
what can run tera electric
craggy dagger
hisuian decidueye 
molten oasis
so true so true
craggy dagger
resist the flying
molten oasis
h deci is, fine
molten oasis
i dont see it, LMFAO
cyan smelt
every time i see hisuian decidueye it just dies
molten oasis
its so overhyped i dont get it
craggy dagger
joking asides-
uhh-
tera electric harc is what i’ve been playing for coverage
molten oasis
like wow, scrappy fighting type
craggy dagger
well-
electric or ghost harc-
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
molten oasis
wouldn't wild charge just obliterate a pelipper
craggy dagger
yeah but recoil-
plus minus um-
4x water weakness for weather ball sash peli
cyan smelt
sash
mighty stump
Rock Blast ig
molten oasis
kek
mighty stump
Don’t even need Loaded Dice
craggy dagger
recoil of 99% of a pokémon’s health hurts like a bitch i’d like to point out 
especially on a harc
but rock slide usually does the job
craggy dagger
if i can land any-
less than 100% accurate moves-
that is-
molten oasis
at least you dont have a 100% flinch chance
craggy dagger
ehhh-
i’d rather flinch than miss and get fucked
molten oasis
fair
craggy dagger
“oh there’s an incin on the field”
misses rock slide 3 times and loses because the incin carried
craggy dagger
or meteor beams too
molten oasis
when otherwise that incin was fucking dead lol
molten oasis
or meteor beams too
that too
cyan smelt
yall need to run more accurate moves
molten oasis
high risk high reward
im also a zacian player, i use play rough
although im convinced play rough is like
70 accuracy, i hit more bleakwinds then i do play rough
cyan smelt
if it's not 100% it's 50%
craggy dagger
yall need to run more accurate moves
my good sir-
i’ve missed 6 ceaseless edges in a row and that’s 90% accuracy
molten oasis
if it's not 100% it's 50%
craggy dagger
70 accuracy, i hit more bleakwinds then i do play rough
i’ve hit more hurricanes in the sun than i do any other move in my entire vgc career
and hurricane in the sun is a coin flip
cyan smelt
people running h-decidueye but what about h-samurott
molten oasis
then continues to lose
craggy dagger
people running h-decidueye but what about h-samurott
molten oasis
h-samu is just mid when you have palafin and basculegion as your stand out water physical attackers
cyan smelt
sharpness tho
molten oasis
meh
craggy dagger
don’t diss samurott 
molten oasis
theres a big gap between 108 and 125
cyan smelt
ceaseless edge sets spikes too
molten oasis
i remember trying sharpness samu for a bit it just felt kinda meh
molten oasis
ceaseless edge sets spikes too
oh boy spikes in vgc
craggy dagger
the ceaseless hazards kinda
are funny
cyan smelt
well i mean glimmora made a whole career out of setting toxic spikes
molten oasis
ok but thats poison
spikes is slight chip
poison is DoT
and works on stuff like dozo
cyan smelt
still decent with aqua cutter and sacred sword
craggy dagger
spikes funny for dengo-
also ceaseless ohko’s dengo
molten oasis
spikes funny for dengo-
also ceaseless ohko’s dengo
show
oh yk it can be a good answer to dengo huh
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
craggy dagger
nevermind
44 Atk Sharpness Samurott-Hisui Ceaseless Edge vs. 196 HP / 84 Def Gholdengo: 116-140 (62 - 74.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
molten oasis
pfff yea ok its mid lol
craggy dagger
i mean my dengo set is also just bulky af
molten oasis
most dengo are bulky tho
craggy dagger
Gholdengo @ Metal Coat
Ability: Good as Gold
Level: 50
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 196 HP / 84 Def / 36 SpA / 76 SpD / 116 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Protect
- Nasty Plot
- Make It Rain
- Shadow Ball
cyan smelt
it's faster than gholdengo
mighty stump
nevermind
44 Atk Sharpness Samurott-Hisui Ceaseless Edge vs. 196 HP / 84 Def Gho...
Y is there like no attack on the Samurott tho
spiral ridge
Did they mean 144?
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
molten oasis
by 1 point lol
so if you wanna outspeed them all you have to invest a ton of evs into speed
knotty mirage
Does gholdengo have coverage move to hit kingambit that's not focus blast ?
mighty stump
Nope
jade dust
Its a shame Palafin fell of with Urshifu, but its coming back
Palifin is definitively top tier, but if youre not using Urshifu as your water type then youre at disadvantage
mighty stump
You simply cannot afford the negative tempo requirement of Palafin in Reg G
As the power level increased overtime and better options became available with better play against Palafin there is a reason it fell off beyond just being replaced by Urshifu
It can’t both be top tier and not used
craggy dagger
i like palafin cause of its design
gameplay can go out the window :0
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
cyan smelt
Kinda does give the opponent a free hit at the palafin slot
foggy lodge
thats kinda why i dont like palafin lol
Requires the set up
I think is good but it's not that "slapable" as people think imo
cyan smelt
Btw Drago both tauros get wild charge for pelipper
jade dust
You simply cannot afford the negative tempo requirement of Palafin in Reg G
All it needs is to switch once which is a downside but it has flip turn and you can switch into inci or rilla
molten oasis
i had no idea they had wild charge
mighty stump
One turn is enough and a cover can be detrimental. HP is still a resource even against resisted attacks especially against teams that can snowball.
cyan smelt
Who's running flip turn on palafin lol
foggy lodge
I suppose a choice band set idk
molten oasis
only band runs flip turn
foggy lodge
The thing is why run choice band but ehhh it has the option
molten oasis
CB also succeptible to intim parting shot, if incin hasn't or doesn't explode
mighty stump
CB only works on Rain teams
cyan smelt
I'm running clam, working decently so far
mighty stump
ClearAm is aight
foggy lodge
A set more bulky with idk sitrus berry would be fine? Or should it always boost the offense?
mighty stump
CA opens up a very good T1 play for Palafin imo
molten oasis
clicking wave crash into incin?
mighty stump
P much
molten oasis
makes sense
molten oasis
tera water wave crash can kill a decent chunk of incin i think
if they're not physically bulky
cyan smelt
Most incins run sitrus
molten oasis
sitrus doesn't matter if ur dead
mighty stump
Lol yea
cyan smelt
Idt I've seen tera grass incin yet
molten oasis
Could see it pop up
mighty stump
Grass Sitrus Incin or Grass Rocky is probably going to be your common sets
molten oasis
Ghost isn’t as valuable i think
mighty stump
That was for FO mirrors and for Zama
molten oasis
Yea
But there is, not many fighting types rn
Grass makes sense for Ursa and Palafin
cyan smelt
Ghost not as valuable with hisuian decidueye picking up, I'd like to see usage stats for it
cyan smelt
all i've ever seen it use is triple arrows and then maybe leaf blade
molten oasis
Triple arrows is a really good move
That is the only appeal of it imo, that and scrappy
And a desperation of fighting types
cyan smelt
tbh i could see all three of the hisui starters being viable this reg
mighty stump
Scrappy isn't bad and it's coverage isn't terrible. But like I'm not really seeing the vision yet
molten oasis
I think people like it for Archa but like
You have to get through peli
Cuz peli nukes it
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
molten oasis
Oh it’s just higher chance?
mighty stump
1/8
cyan smelt
that's why you run razor claw or scope lens
molten oasis
ic
cyan smelt
or dragon cheer (lol)
molten oasis
is 1/8 just the number for any move with higher crit chance?
mighty stump
That just makes it a 50/50
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
cyan smelt
don't forget triple arrows has chance for crit and also chance to make target flinch or lower def
molten oasis
ik
jade dust
triple arrow si a busted move but all HDeci has going
cyan smelt
just casually lol
molten oasis
damn
mighty stump
Lol up in the ladder is either just 2-2-2 or Annihilape or WP Psyspam stuff
wild
Some things will never change
timber falcon
Lol up in the ladder is either just 2-2-2 or Annihilape or WP Psyspam stuff
So atp it’s not even obscene or over the top teams?
Guess it’s really just down to piloting
cyan smelt
This reg is either gonna be parting shot wars or dondozo stall wars
molten oasis
Lol up in the ladder is either just 2-2-2 or Annihilape or WP Psyspam stuff
So grinding up the ladder is not worth it gtk
This is bo1?
mighty stump
i mean its just bo1 lol
jade dust
This reg is either gonna be parting shot wars or dondozo stall wars
Nah Gholdengo haze
knotty mirage
This reg is either gonna be parting shot wars or dondozo stall wars
If it's gonna be dondozo stall war i def will give my prim perish song
Liquid voice perish song paired with water absorb or dry skin sounds good tho
mighty stump
Ok time to snipe you on ladder w Psyspam
cyan smelt
hisuian braviary or armarouge?
cyan smelt
i wanna try h-samurott
timber falcon
decent into dengo ig
cyan smelt
incin too
molten oasis
good luck with stuff guys
timber falcon
Basculegion (M) @ Clear Amulet
Ability: Swift Swim
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature
- Wave Crash
- Last Respects
- Flip Turn
- Protect
i wanna finish arch though, and im thinking of having this set i just made on the team
the reason it has no speed investments is cause without the 252 HP and 4DEF sucker punch can OHKO from gambit
odd summit
sb got an idea for a mon thats good in a rainteam but also gets accses to electric tarrain? (No legundarys)
timber falcon
rotom wash?
mighty stump
Doesn't benefit off of it though
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
timber falcon
hydro pump?
https://pokepast.es/f3919a9724706480 also any thoughts on this team so far?
cyan smelt
neat, psychic noise blocks revival blessing
timber falcon
all u need is an odd situation to know something new
cyan smelt
yeah i randomly just tried using psychic noise on a pawmot
timber falcon
https://pokepast.es/fcca1e06492f4ced i think ive done well with myself here, I did have an idea of using dragapult for sweep and here it is, Arch + Peli is the regular plan, then at the back dragapult and maushold for cleaning up. Ursaluna and farig are for mu wheather MUs. Apart from snow, ground type moves seem to be good into em (torkoal + ttar). also i lost a battle to FO spam on archaludon so farig was a no brainer after such an incident lol. Any thoughts or improvements?
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/fcca1e06492f4ced i think ive done well with myself here, I d...
Wouldn’t, uh, annihilape, be better, than pult
modern harbor
does after you + trick room work?
almost no merit in that play besides really niche scenario but
curious
modern harbor
wdym, only to reverse tr?
solid frigate
idk I don’t knoe I havent played tr quite a bit
mighty stump
does after you + trick room work?
It does if you need to set or reset TR
modern harbor
like if they have a fast mon up threatening indeedee, can lilligant after you to get tr up before ko, and help slow mons in the back? would be interesting
mighty stump
Depending if you want to set quickly and bypass the -ve priority or deactivate it
modern harbor
idk how negative priority works
mighty stump
You go last
modern harbor
oh i mean in relation to after you
mighty stump
? It just skips the -ve priority like I said above
modern harbor
oh sorry, i didnt understand your message
modern harbor
okok thats what i thought ty
also ursa bm is surprisingly good on my team
significantly improves csr matchup
chrome knot
almost no merit in that play besides really niche scenario but
yes there is!! in a stacked tourney i used after u trick room to beat out imprison farig in speed :3
mighty stump
Imagine not using Snorlax
molten oasis
modern harbor
yes there is!! in a stacked tourney i used after u trick room to beat out impris...
oooo yea i didnt think ab imprison
chrome knot
after u tr is useful when u know ur gonna fucking die
modern harbor
it maakes sense especially in open team sheet
chrome knot
i after u trick roomed and then indeedee ate a fucking wicked blow
modern harbor
lol
the team is surprisingly effective !!
its actually very good into both horses and pretty good into mirai
being able to spread hyper voice and expanding force is really threatening too
i really wish bolt got parabolic charge tho
chrome knot
modern harbor
it's necrozma dawn wings psyspam with ursa bm
molten oasis
OTOT where’s flash cannon
modern harbor
i am lazy but i can get paste
molten oasis
it's necrozma dawn wings psyspam with ursa bm
Why not physical?
modern harbor
u mean the other necrozma or the other ursa?
molten oasis
Ursa
modern harbor
oh
timber falcon
Wouldn’t, uh, annihilape, be better, than pult
If I planned on running beat up, the yes, however as you can see with the dragapult set what I’m looking for is a mon that can deal great damage to BOTH opponent mons and dragon darts can even double on one if they protect or if they’re immune. Annihilape takes time to get going dragapult doesn’t. Which is the logic I’m following
modern harbor
i really like the spread damage and being immune to astral barrage while still being able to ohko with blood moon is very nice
molten oasis
The physical attacker aspect helps for special walls that Lunala can struggle to get through
chrome knot
(she doesn’t have pla)
molten oasis
Ah
chrome knot
in which ive offered her mine i used in orlando
modern harbor
i mean with 157 base special, theres not much that can wall it
molten oasis
If I planned on running beat up, the yes, however as you can see with the dragap...
But you have beat up
chrome knot
i mean with 157 base special, theres not much that can wall it
hello im a brick wall
timber falcon
i mean with 157 base special, theres not much that can wall it
Pla is a peak Pokémon experience you should play it
modern harbor
i will try regular ursa at some point (i was busy for trading today, sorry emma)
timber falcon
But you have beat up
Oh yeah sorry about that, it’s supposed to be super fang
molten oasis
I think regular Ursa is awesome
chrome knot
i will try regular ursa at some point (i was busy for trading today, sorry emma)
im going back to sleep
chrome knot
you should get some sleep aswell
modern harbor
yep! nothing against it, i just wanted to try a team with bm because i got a perfect one
mighty stump
i mean with 157 base special, theres not much that can wall it
Dark types be like
modern harbor
you should get some sleep aswell
yea
molten oasis
lol
timber falcon
I said Dark types not Incineroar
It’s like their mascot
modern harbor
usually +1 moongeist isnt that bad
chrome knot
i meannn meteor beam? lol
taking a guaranteed hit (?!)
molten oasis
Single strike is probably a better example lol
mighty stump
If you say so guys
modern harbor
there are def problem pokemon of course
timber falcon
Single strike is probably a better example lol
I miss single strike 
molten oasis
Why’d they changed the comp helper emoji to lando t lol
modern harbor
lots of them
chrome knot
pao pao
modern harbor
more of them than with meta picks, thats why ndw is bad lol
timber falcon
Are there any good offensive dark types this reg
molten oasis
Kingambit
modern harbor
torkoal is p good into pao
timber falcon
I keep forgetting about hydreigon
modern harbor
goltres is so good
big wall against ndw i mean
molten oasis
Unless you count AV incin
chrome knot
i bringing it to my local bc i know a lexibuzz player is showin up
modern harbor
especially if power herb is burnt
molten oasis
Lexibuzz?
chrome knot
alex underhill electabuzz team
molten oasis
Ah
timber falcon
Why the lexi part
chrome knot
idk thats what its been called
modern harbor
although, if tera fairy, it can take attacks well enough from most dark mons to get off a meteor beam, even if charged, and i always have mons like torkoal or h-lilligant too
molten oasis
You Tera fairy I click bblade
modern harbor
You Tera fairy I click bblade <:arkeknine:669500432741040129>
ceruledge in reg g?
molten oasis
No, zacian
modern harbor
ohh behemoth
molten oasis
Behemoth blade, bblade
modern harbor
i thought u meant bitter blade
molten oasis
No lol
molten oasis
You’re fine
modern harbor
yeahh zacian is a hard matchup for sure
timber falcon
How to beat balance dengo?
molten oasis
Not, no
modern harbor
toarkoal and bm ursa help tho
mighty stump
How to beat balance dengo?
Playing better
molten oasis
Torkoal sucks for Zac
timber falcon
Playing better
They keep swapping, protecting, and controlling the game
molten oasis
Defensively bulky fire type?
modern harbor
ohh i see
mighty stump
They keep swapping, protecting, and controlling the game <:GengarSad:66950045179...
Then play better
molten oasis
Vs a steel type physical attacker?
timber falcon
How do I get better at piloting
molten oasis
And zacian doesn’t like tr which is what your team is
mighty stump
Lol
modern harbor
yeah
mighty stump
Aside from understanding what are the favourable board states that you want into your matchups, learning your lines and reviewing your fundamental piloting such as targeting, repositioning and leads is pretty key.
molten oasis
Playing to gain experience helps you prepare for the next time it pops up
mighty stump
This combined in how you expect your gameplan to interact with theirs all encompass how you're going to get better at piloting
Reviewing your replays, asking for a review, and getting the point as to why certain plays are recommended in certain positions rather than seeing it as an "If A then B"
timber falcon
So the most important part is when you first see their team?
timber falcon
Reviewing your replays, asking for a review, and getting the point as to why cer...
Oh yeah I forgot about this
I got like no replays
molten oasis
Start getting some then
mighty stump
I literally say there's no point in spamming battles mindlessly lol
molten oasis
That’s not what I meant lol
mighty stump
Not you
molten oasis
Ah, uhm, sorry
timber falcon
I literally say there's no point in spamming battles mindlessly lol
Is that not how I get replays to review
mighty stump
Focus and actually think about the games you're playing...
timber falcon
So I should take my time
timber falcon
I end up mumbling whenever I concentrate hard :/
I’ll just take my time deciding moves
modern harbor
the thing that helps me the most (even though i suck) is taking my time on every turn and just knowing as much as i can about the movesets of common pokemon, and some important calcs
modern harbor
like, ivy cudgel ohko farigiraf is VERY good to know
molten oasis
Tera fire Ivy cudgel?
modern harbor
tera anything yea
mighty stump
Doesn't always, just as an FYI lol
molten oasis
Idk if Tera water ever ohkos from wellspring
modern harbor
Doesn't always, just as an FYI lol
depends on sets but if they have ANY SpA investment it does and its a good chance otherwise
modern harbor
Idk if Tera water ever ohkos from wellspring
arent they both neutral and same power and same modifiers?
mighty stump
Well if you Tera without getting Intim'd then sure
mighty stump
arent they both neutral and same power and same modifiers?
Hearthflame gets +1
modern harbor
Well if you Tera without getting Intim'd then sure
true
modern harbor
oh right i forgot the other ones get diff boosts
modern harbor
but either way, it's good to know because you can either do that play when you see an opening, or ar least know that the enemy will be conscious of it, and be able to read the counter play
timber falcon
Hearthflame gets +1
Btw tofu, you might not remember cause I’m stuck in the past, what did you think about they lunala + chi-yu team i made before
mighty stump
I didn't make a Lunala/Chi-Yu team
solid frigate
Lunala Feesh?
solid frigate
I didn't make a Lunala/Chi-Yu team
he made not you
mighty stump
he made not you
Thank you for pointing out the edit that I was just about to reply to
gentle cragBOT
Thank you for pointing out the edit that I was just about to reply to
woodtofu has given 1 Gen Rep to morrispxg456
timber falcon
lol
solid frigate
moment
modern harbor
does mold breaker/moongeist ignore shadow shield/multiscale?