competitive_discussion

[modern harbor]

should i be tr or protect on dw nec

idk

would be nice to have indeedee f and dw nec for tr setup but protect is so juicy

[chrome knot]

tr

protect is eh on teams that set trick room and play to just overwhelm opponent

[modern harbor]

true but like

in what situation do i set tr with nec?

if i forsee indeedee ko i follow me tr maybe?

[chrome knot]

follow me trick room

[modern harbor]

ic

[chrome knot]

pretty standard

or when u can attack with one and safely tr with the other

[modern harbor]

i figured indeedee has enough bulk to be setting tr most of the time but i guess now that i think ab it its nice to be able to get through t1 without taking damage

im just concerned ab astral barrage

i have to tera in front of it right?

tera fairy +tr?

[chrome knot]

consider not leading ndw into fucking CALYREX

[modern harbor]

real

[chrome knot]

dunce

[modern harbor]

does caly s 1 shot seed indeedee f?

[chrome knot]

with what

[modern harbor]

WAIT

[chrome knot]

yeah…

[modern harbor]

ITS NORMAL TYPE RIGHT

[chrome knot]

mhmmm :3

[modern harbor]

ISNT IT??

YAYYYYY

[chrome knot]

good job you learnt you are immune

[modern harbor]

ok then tera fairy meteor beam or moongeist +tr isnt bad

if they click astral barrage i take like 30% and get tr plus damage or forced tera

if they fakeout indeedee or read tera and fo ndw its kind of bad but

[chrome knot]

196+ SpA Protosynthesis Tera-Fire Raging Bolt Weather Ball (100 BP Fire) vs. 84 HP / 4 SpD Calyrex-Shadow Rider in Sun: 183-216 (98.3 - 116.1%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

[chrome knot]

how do you fake out in psychic terrain babe

[modern harbor]

UR RIGHT

UR SO SMART

okok wait im not that dumb i promise i just only see these things when i can see the game in front of me its like

doing math on paper vs in my head lol

[chrome knot]

lmfao

[modern harbor]

anyways i know its not winning any awards but I LIKE THESE POKEMON I THINK THIS TEAM WILL BE FUN TO GRIND CART W

more fun than meta slaving mirror matchups

[next stump]

hey catt did you ever get a spectator pass for worlds?

[modern harbor]

yes !!!

[chrome knot]

with a better 6 set you can win lmao

[next stump]

hell yeah, awesome

[modern harbor]

shhhhhhhh u can win with anything i swear

[chrome knot]

i meant of ndw

thats more optimized lol

[modern harbor]

6 set?

[chrome knot]

of pokemon

[modern harbor]

o

[chrome knot]

bc why is bm ursa here

and why are you weather ball bolt without tera fire

[modern harbor]

because i got lucky and got a good one

[mighty stump]

I ran FO Indeedee-F to Fake Out non-Grounded units

[modern harbor]

bc i havent updated the paste yet 😭

[chrome knot]

stop baiting!!!!

[mighty stump]

Lmao

[dapper crag]

Move: Shadow Sneak

No additional effect.

Type

Ghost

Category

Physical

Power

40

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

30 (48)

Priority

1

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[mighty stump]

What is bro cooking now

[chrome knot]

did u see last night tofu

[mighty stump]

No

What hapoened

[chrome knot]

stg there needs to be a vgc iq test to be here

[mighty stump]

Omg spill

[timber falcon]

im against it, had to check if follow me would redirect

[modern harbor]

is it worse than me....

[chrome knot]

yes much worse

[modern harbor]

oh god

[chrome knot]

talking points were like

[modern harbor]

...ps after ur story i wanna hear what might be better in place of ursa bm

[chrome knot]

one rando saying
h-decidueye isnt a real threat
2 grass types on one team is bad
rambling about more dumb shit it was annoying

[chrome knot]

regular ursa lol

[modern harbor]

i dont hav pla 😃

[mighty stump]

Ok but tbf I think Hecidueye is a fraud

[chrome knot]

no way champ

[mighty stump]

I’d rather run Sneasler

[timber falcon]

[mighty stump]

and I think Sneasler kinda dog

[chrome knot]

hitting water types and gholdengo is kinda scary

[timber falcon]

bro i just had a game where i killed h-decidueye with sneasler lmao

[chrome knot]

hi

[mighty stump]

I mean sure but also Scovillain can do that, doesn’t make it poggers 😭

[gentle crag]

woodtofu has given 1 Gen Rep to setsumizi

[modern harbor]

okok but alsooo if you got a REALLY GOOD roll on ursa bm wouldnt you wanna use it at any excuse too!!

[chrome knot]

that is NOT the same comparison at all gang

[mighty stump]

People desperate for fighting types

Flamigo >

[chrome knot]

no i hate ursa bm

no if we’re talking frauds talk flamigo

[modern harbor]

o :(

[mighty stump]

Wide Guard pog

[timber falcon]

fighting types hit hard physically, never thought id be missing shifu

[chrome knot]

no use for it pog

[mighty stump]

Wow

Just say you hate me

[chrome knot]

hahaha

[mighty stump]

YOU DO HATE ME

[chrome knot]

regular ursa is coolerrrr

[mighty stump]

Based

[chrome knot]

I DIDNT SAY THIS

[mighty stump]

But BM Ursa has a red circle

[chrome knot]

i dont hate you :<

[mighty stump]

c:

[modern harbor]

i like ursa bm bc its like the perfect allegory for a gay bouncer

[mighty stump]

What

[modern harbor]

a bear with a black eye and a red bump on his forehead

[mighty stump]

I see 0 connection

[modern harbor]

idk what to say 🤷‍♀️ hehe

[chrome knot]

idk how to say im disappointed in a nice tone

[mighty stump]

“I hold your hand softly as I say this”

[chrome knot]

LOL

[dapper crag]

Move: Meteor Beam

This attack charges on the first turn and executes on the second. Raises the user's Special Attack by 1 stage on the first turn. If the user is holding a Power Herb, the move completes in one turn.

Type

Rock

Category

Special

Power

120

Accuracy

90

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Charge

Has a charging turn.

Contact

Does not make contact.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[chrome knot]

rock

[modern harbor]

90acc=miss when it matters :(

[chrome knot]

mhm!

[mighty stump]

Only misses if you think it’s less than 100% accurate

[modern harbor]

true

just gasligjt yourself into believing they raised evasion

[chrome knot]

50/50 tbh

[mighty stump]

it hits or it doesnt

duh

[modern harbor]

also um

why exactly does reg ursa have more synergy? is it slower for tr or something?

[mighty stump]

It is actually slower

It also as immunity to status due to Guts + Burn

[chrome knot]

slow + guts + physical sweeper

[mighty stump]

^

Normal STAB is based

[modern harbor]

ohh

well

emma ya got a 0spe one 🥹🥺🥺🥺?

[mighty stump]

wow begging in comp chat

[modern harbor]

or wait doesnt it evolve from normal tediursa

[mighty stump]

needs PLA to change it though

[modern harbor]

yeahh

lemme go grab a shiny one i guess

MANNN WHEN AM I SUPPOSED TO USE BM URSA

i was so excited

[mighty stump]

I meam you can I just don’t know what you’re running

[chrome knot]

hmmmmmmm depends whos asking

[mighty stump]

Lol

[modern harbor]

i will breed one i am strong and independent 💪

still cant evolve it but

[chrome knot]

i have a 0spe regular oneeeee

she went to orlando with me her name is sunshine so you have to be nice to her

[modern harbor]

can i borrow it to just breed one 0spe baby ?

[chrome knot]

you have no means to evolve it to an ursaluna cx

[modern harbor]

trueeee

[timber falcon]

Lmao what

[modern harbor]

o forgot isnt that the message the last elite four gives u in hgss

[timber falcon]

I’m not sure, but it does look familiar

[chrome knot]

so do you want the bear

[modern harbor]

well i would feel bad taking it from you but if its just to try out i can !

[chrome knot]

i can always get another if i actually need it

[chrome knot]

real!!

[pallid hare]

now insert the quote about the pocket iron valiant

[plain drum]

“…but just in case, having a Booster Energy Iron Valiant in the back is always a good idea.”

[timber falcon]

final attempt at swamper, i think i might reach my goal

first time in 2 months ive hit 70% GXE, im legit getting a rush

[next stump]

congrats 🙂

[shadow wind]

Yeah good job.

[plain drum]

[bold geode]

[karmic temple]

[strange fjord]

https://pokepast.es/d7767c2ea2b1d51f
Got to 1500 recently and decided to take time and reflect on the team. Tyranitar is okay but I only really use them for a rain counter. Usually I go for Ribombee Zoroark/Ursaluna for the Fake Tears Hyper Voice. Trying to be more flexable with the team, any ideas?

[timber falcon]

offensively the team is fine right?

yeah im not too sure what can be improved

doesnt sandstorm get rid of the sash

[strange fjord]

yeah it does, but I dont wanna have torkoal to empower sun teams too much

[timber falcon]

Alraria? If that’s even an option

[bold geode]

Hello
How has the marriage been going?

[nocturne holly]

Shiny pult hunt today?

[dapper crag]

Move: Burning Jealousy

Has a 100% chance to burn the target if it had a stat stage raised this turn.

Type

Fire

Category

Special

Power

70

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

Move: Burning Bulwark

The user is protected from most attacks made by other Pokemon during this turn, and Pokemon trying to make contact with the user become burned. Non-damaging moves go through this protection. This move has a 1/X chance of being successful, where X starts at 1 and triples each time this move is successfully used. X resets to 1 if this move fails, if the user's last move used is not Baneful Bunker, Burning Bulwark, Detect, Endure, King's Shield, Max Guard, Obstruct, Protect, Quick Guard, Silk Trap, Spiky Shield, or Wide Guard, or if it was one of those moves and the user's protection was broken. Fails if the user moves last this turn.

Type

Fire

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

10 (16)

Priority

4

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[timber falcon]

pult?

Oh that’s dragapult nvm

[shadow wind]

Catapult.

[karmic temple]

We’re expecting our first child in 2 picnics

[nocturne holly]

Yessir it’s so good

It’s shiny is also really nice

[solid frigate]

yeet the child

[timber falcon]

Yk I’ve always wanted that shiny, might have to pause on lugia and get going with some shinies I never got

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/ani-shiny/dragapult.gif

[timber falcon]

Clean

[nocturne holly]

yea

[fringe oar]

can anyone help me? I'm unable to add more evs to my kyogre even though my showdown set says I should be able to get a few more, I've made sure my attack is minimized and hyper trained all the other stats, but it still says my evs are maxed

[shadow wind]

Was thinking more “cat”apult.(Incineroar)

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/ani-shiny/lugia.gif

[timber falcon]

You must’ve evd it wrong, adding too many to one stat

[nocturne holly]

ngl that’s mid

[timber falcon]

But it’s lugia so

[solid frigate]

what js the evs on your Kyogres?

[solid frigate]

dunno why people still keep on using it lol

[fringe oar]

Kyogre @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Drizzle
Level: 59
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 244 HP / 92 Def / 108 SpA / 4 SpD / 60 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 25 Atk

[timber falcon]

The bulk is cool, if only it had better support moves, they need to update these old legendaries icl

[fringe oar]

but Kyogre @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Drizzle
Level: 59
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 244 HP / 92 Def / 107 SpA / 4 SpD / 60 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 25 Atk

but only have that

and it's saying my evs are maxed

[solid frigate]

this looks pretty odd- but try reset the EVs in SV and add it all back

10 EVs per Vitamin and 1 EV per feather

[fringe oar]

yep

I did it in swsh if that matters at all

before transferring it into sv

[solid frigate]

Why not do it in SV

[fringe oar]

because vitamins are way cheaper in swsh

125000 for 25

[timber falcon]

107 on spatck?

That’s some eve wasted no?

[fringe oar]

yeah it's all it would let me

I know

it should be 108

[solid frigate]

isn’t that 156 is the second Bump on SpA?

[timber falcon]

Yeh, 107 is wasting 7 evs

[fringe oar]

ik I'm trying to get it to 108 and it's not letting me

[solid frigate]

just use Fresh Start mochi and do it again

[fringe oar]

also, it's not letting me hit 60 on speed either

all the bsts match up on showdown so I know I eved correctly

[bold geode]

Know it's from Wolfe video but this you and Incin

[timber falcon]

Only thing I’m seeing here is you must’ve messed up the ev process in game

[karmic temple]

LMFAOOo

[fringe oar]

this shows it better

[karmic temple]

Once reg h drops ima get back into competitive. Im playing more pogo to farm more easy shiny legendaries

[timber falcon]

Wait how do you know it doesn’t add up?

[fringe oar]

wdym

[timber falcon]

Is there an in game way of checking that the spatck is 107

[fringe oar]

well, my evs are maxed supposedly so I can't add anymore

[timber falcon]

Then that means ur done no?

[bold geode]

YOTAM IN WOLFE VIDEO

[fringe oar]

but the totals are wrong, they're lower

even with the same ivs and everything

[timber falcon]

Welp, then u gotta get a fresh start mochi

[solid frigate]

Also the finals is just straight up from an Anime

[timber falcon]

As torrent said

[fringe oar]

sad, but I'll try

[timber falcon]

New Wolfe video?

[fringe oar]

another?

[timber falcon]

18 minutes ago

Wait is this that regional where he won with moongus at the end

[solid frigate]

the Amogus clutch is real

[bold geode]

Yup

[timber falcon]

That was actually so hype

[solid frigate]

the amogus plot armor

[timber falcon]

Shifus be ware 🔥

https://tenor.com/view/bewear-bewear-kick-bewear-anime-bewear-pokemon-gif-25525538

[solid frigate]

amogus

[timber falcon]

why did wolfe ev the moongus to have stats in speed and spatck.

i wonder if those 4 evs mattered

[solid frigate]

dunno

[balmy glen]

It’s just fill because he’s a general bulk amoongus. The special atk and speed invest despite being so little is actually nice though because no other amoongus ran even that little invest so you automatically outspeed it and have more dmg output with sludge bomb than the Pollen Puff amoongus

[timber falcon]

never thought of it that way

[bold geode]

Wolfe fans diving in to the Incineroar memes lmao

There's this one dude who on every video comments how long it takes for Incineroar to appear in every video

[solid frigate]

its annoying but in a hood way lmao

[bold geode]

A hood way?

[nocturne holly]

good way

[solid frigate]

good

[balmy glen]

hood*

[craggy dagger]

[solid frigate]

[chrome knot]

go back to bedd

[timber falcon]

Say I wanted to watch a yt video about reg H

Any reliable sources? On like just learning more about comp

[craggy dagger]

i don’t remember does lillikoal run 252+atk 252spe and 252hp 252 spa?

or is there some weird hybrid bulk thing going on

[timber falcon]

Liligant doesn’t have bulk

Since it’s sash

[craggy dagger]

you’d be surprised i’ve seen some fucked builds with bulk

[timber falcon]

Waste of an opportunity to dish out hard hitting solar blades

[bold geode]

Hai Nova

[craggy dagger]

ewwww
i’d rather leaf blade so that i don’t get fucked by weather change

[bold geode]

Moxie's second channel has went over some stuff

I think CloverBells has as well

[timber falcon]

I’ll check them out thanks

[timber falcon]

B-b-but more damage

[craggy dagger]

uhhh-

Torkoal (F) @ Charcoal
Ability: Drought
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Clear Smog
• Eruption
• Protect
• Weather Ball

[craggy dagger]

yeah but if weather goes down you’re stuck with a 2 turn move on sash

or a 3 turn move if it’s rainy iirc?

[timber falcon]

Gambling

[dapper crag]

Move: Solar Blade

This attack charges on the first turn and executes on the second. Power is halved if the weather is Hail, Primordial Sea, Rain Dance, or Sandstorm and the user is not holding Utility Umbrella. If the user is holding a Power Herb or the weather is Desolate Land or Sunny Day, the move completes in one turn. If the user is holding Utility Umbrella and the weather is Desolate Land or Sunny Day, the move still requires a turn to charge.

Type

Grass

Category

Physical

Power

125

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Charge

Has a charging turn.

Contact

Makes contact.

Slicing

Boosted by Sharpness.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[craggy dagger]

oh power is halved nvm

[timber falcon]

Just halves damage

[chrome knot]

SPECIAL ATTACK !?

spe+atk

[craggy dagger]

on torkoal idiot

[chrome knot]

Oh !

[craggy dagger]

it’s why i said the duo and not just lilligant

[chrome knot]

yeah in reg H go adamant on lilli

go 252hp 252+spatk

in reg f/g i can see jolly

but ur always gonna be the fastest thing on earth

[craggy dagger]

https://pokepast.es/b821e52b6bdaff7f

[chrome knot]

so close

SO close like soooo god damn close

[timber falcon]

What does liligant torkoal do in tailwind scenario

[chrome knot]

then you added dead weight

[dapper crag]

Ability: Aroma Veil

This Pokemon and its allies cannot become affected by Attract, Disable, Encore, Heal Block, Taunt, or Torment.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[chrome knot]

trick room :3

[craggy dagger]

ehhhh

[timber falcon]

Oh it’s one of those tr teams

[craggy dagger]

not really-
i was debating on switching armarouge to psychic seed for special defense and um
run energy ball instead of meteor beam
and decorate

[chrome knot]

HUHHHH

[craggy dagger]

plus stab dazzling gleam is nice

[chrome knot]

ok i cant listen to you anymore im sry

[craggy dagger]

psychic seed is a joke btw-

[chrome knot]

blahblahblahblahblah

cant hear youuuuuu

[craggy dagger]

but i’ve missed every single meteor beam ever-

[dapper crag]

Ability: Good as Gold

This Pokemon is immune to Status moves.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[timber falcon]

Does perish song work on good as gold

[craggy dagger]

why can i hit more hurricanes in the sun than a meteor beam and ceaseless edge

[rustic mountain]

nope nd dengo can switch anyway cuz its ghost

but it doesnt affect it to begin w/

[timber falcon]

im scared bro

[craggy dagger]

emma what the hell do you add in place of alcremie though

[timber falcon]

ive got no clue what to expect

[craggy dagger]

an incoming dondozo when um
perish hits 0?

then you get commander + a side slot

[timber falcon]

AND FLAMIGO NO

[rustic mountain]

yea

[craggy dagger]

yup

it’s quite predictable

[timber falcon]

I FKED IT UP

[chrome knot]

G a l l a d e

[rustic mountain]

now ull know if u see it again

[craggy dagger]

lowkey forgot that existed

[chrome knot]

lowkey ur dumb

[solid frigate]

moment

[timber falcon]

bro

[craggy dagger]

clear amulet max hp max attack brave?
psycho cut sacred sword wide guard trick room-

[timber falcon]

my electabuzz has friking taunt

[chrome knot]

yeah

[craggy dagger]

sharp :0

[timber falcon]

2 games ive lost cause i forgot i have taunt

1 against toedscruel :/

[rustic mountain]

dont forget u have taunt

[craggy dagger]

tera fire i think-
ehhh
fire or grass

[timber falcon]

i had no idea it bypassed good as gold

[rustic mountain]

i think fire is most common on it, atleast from previous regs

[dapper crag]

Ability: Mycelium Might

This Pokemon's Status moves ignore certain Abilities of other Pokemon, and go last among Pokemon using the same or greater priority moves.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[rustic mountain]

again, now u know

its a lot of interactions and what not, gta have atleast most of em down to not get cheesed consistently

[chrome knot]

grass

[rustic mountain]

the relevant ones ofc

[craggy dagger]

the hell do i run on
ursaluna-
facade headlong protect and-????

[rustic mountain]

sd or eq

[craggy dagger]

sd wha-

[rustic mountain]

swords dance

[knotty mirage]

At least it makes the ability still have uses not full on trash

[chrome knot]

earthquake

[craggy dagger]

no i know that but-
uh-
um ok

[chrome knot]

what

im giving you the answers

[craggy dagger]

but don’t allies also die-

[bold geode]

What you running with Ursa?

[chrome knot]

use it not like a dumbass

[craggy dagger]

[bold geode]

You don't just spam EQ

[knotty mirage]

Depend on what you run and when you use the eq

[craggy dagger]

eq it is then

[rustic mountain]

wats wrong w/ sd? i dont understand the reaction. lower power format + intimidate and double protects or passive play under tr allows u to set up much more easily

[craggy dagger]

hammer arm

[knotty mirage]

Just always remember it will get damage nerf on grassy terrain learn it the hard way

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/5ec0a0dfad507526 any thoughts on the team though

[craggy dagger]

no am just wondering where the setup opening is cause if ursaluna is in the field it’s a target for everyone

[rustic mountain]

swampert

[bold geode]

EQ is when you wanna hit both or it's just free to do so

Usually you click Facade or Headlong

[timber falcon]

last try

[craggy dagger]

ah i see

[knotty mirage]

You can try to run shadow claw i guess if you use tera ghost

[craggy dagger]

i have not-
touched ursaluna ever-

[bold geode]

It takes a minute to get going, but can either be precise or braindead lmao

[craggy dagger]

follow me focus punch

[rustic mountain]

like i said, passive play. usually u can tell if a player is playing more passively or not nd take advantage of it. tr tends to have redirection and some ursa comps are balance so atleast 1 fake out. theres def quite a few ways to get it up, especially if u dont have a team that can take eq if rillas not present

[knotty mirage]

It just feel good clicking facade

[bold geode]

Like with reg Ursa you're either figuring out how to position it or you're clicking Guts Facade repeatedly, no in between

[rustic mountain]

i havent played it this format but generally yea which is why bm is just better u dont have to worry about that

[bold geode]

The one thing that makes BM better imo is that it can be intimidated
That's it

[rustic mountain]

ghost immunity to facade is another

[knotty mirage]

And have prio

[bold geode]

That's when you click Headlong lmao

[rustic mountain]

if u can predict the ghost switch w/ confidence sure

[craggy dagger]

[bold geode]

Oh that's why I run Shadow Ball P2

[rustic mountain]

[craggy dagger]

i’ll figure something out with this team-
i’m gonna-
flop cause that’s what happens when i play meta teams but
ig its good to try

[bold geode]

I'm in many P2 endgames
Therefore being able to hit like Goldie for SE is nice too

[chrome knot]

@craggy dagger

[knotty mirage]

Oh yeah i have question can max special attack modest BM ursa vacuum wave ohko kingambit ?

[gentle crag]

shinyhuntersv (ID 654522773833515011)

[Message](#breeding_queue_non_shiny message) in #breeding_queue_non_shiny

Game: SV
Ball type: pokeball
Special IVs: 6
Ability: any
Nature: Modest
Egg moves: any
Offer: 2 ability patch 
Note I can provide a 5iv parent but you'll have to breed for the nature```

Command triggered by treeco.. Message from · Aug 10, 2024, 1:17 AM

[bold geode]

Wrong chat?

[chrome knot]

2 ability patches for 6iv dura is criminal LOL

[craggy dagger]

huh…

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2177421283

[rustic mountain]

nope, i was trynna copy paste something else lmao

[chrome knot]

oh its non shiny

[rustic mountain]

apologies either way, it wont let me delete now

[chrome knot]

nova…?

why didnt you lead lillikoal

[rustic mountain]

https://calc.pokemonshowdown.com

[chrome knot]

after u eruption with no redirection opponent

[craggy dagger]

um-
because of sini?

[spiral ridge]

Girl it’s what you gave me😭

[craggy dagger]

wait-
grass types-

[atomic mural]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reghbo3-2177420448-1gpgrunllvcxxyv4pukt2xwq38tkkf5pw this guy is even worse than the guy from yesterday

[chrome knot]

THE ENTIRE TEAM!!

[spiral ridge]

Is nova having trouble thinking this morning

[chrome knot]

that is ERUPTION FOOD !!!

[knotty mirage]

Okay i have no idea how to use this especially when i'm using phone

[chrome knot]

specs eruption does about 3000%

[spiral ridge]

Jesus

[bold geode]

I bullied Lillikoal one set lmao

[rustic mountain]

prolly a good thing to try and learn

[craggy dagger]

yes i am

[craggy dagger]

i’m not specs-

[spiral ridge]

Damn they got wiped 😭

[spiral ridge]

[chrome knot]

why not!

[spiral ridge]

Moar damage

I mean they got the coal up anyway so

[craggy dagger]

clear smog

[timber falcon]

so ive realised i have a very bad MU into volcarona teams, any ideas how i can fix that?

[chrome knot]

why is that there!

[craggy dagger]

um-
but yes my brain sucks right now

[spiral ridge]

They let the indeedee live on that huge a TR team

[craggy dagger]

emma i’m about to delete this team for good and never look at it

[chrome knot]

im about to delete you for having bad taste

[craggy dagger]

WHY DO I KEEP MISSING MY METEOR BEAMS

[spiral ridge]

Wha I’ll take it :<

[craggy dagger]

go ahead idm being deleted

[chrome knot]

BC ARMAROUGE CAN SMELL UR NOT CONFIDENT

[craggy dagger]

as if-

[chrome knot]

no confidence

[craggy dagger]

armarouge just sucks-
i’ll go play ceruledge instead

[spiral ridge]

Damnnn

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

i think its player issue…

[spiral ridge]

[craggy dagger]

right-
fuck meta teams i’m going back to playing stupid ideas-
i always did better there anyways

[chrome iron]

All stunfisk team !!!!!

[craggy dagger]

i’m going back to working on altaria

[rustic mountain]

plays 2 games w/ a meta team: fuck this im done

[craggy dagger]

i played 5
in which 4/5 i missed meteor beam on an incin

[torn parrot]

Bzhonk

[craggy dagger]

and lost the set

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2177424295

Volca Hisuian Typhlosion Sun Team feels strong

[rustic mountain]

i mean it all evens out haha id still stick w/ it

if ur play is consistent, the wins will be

[chrome iron]

Like fuck your meta defining pokemon I'm going to use Mr. Pancake no matter WHAT !!!

[torn parrot]

Typhlosion scares me

[craggy dagger]

i’ll keep it around ig

[dapper crag]

Move: Meteor Beam

This attack charges on the first turn and executes on the second. Raises the user's Special Attack by 1 stage on the first turn. If the user is holding a Power Herb, the move completes in one turn.

Type

Rock

Category

Special

Power

120

Accuracy

90

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Charge

Has a charging turn.

Contact

Does not make contact.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[craggy dagger]

but i found a cool altaria calc

[spiral ridge]

90 accuracy 😭

Oo?

[chrome iron]

Cuz why not

[rustic mountain]

whose mr pancake

[chrome iron]

Stunfisk (it looks like a pancake)

[rustic mountain]

lmao

[craggy dagger]

scotty-
i’ve hit more hurricanes in the sun than i have meteor beams

in my entire career

[rustic mountain]

stunfisk is in the game?

[chrome iron]

I've missed 4 hurricanes in a row once

[spiral ridge]

That uh.
Really shouldn’t be

Sun hurricanes are a pain has my fair share anytime a torn had sunny day

[craggy dagger]

and hurricane in the sun is 50 accuracy

[spiral ridge]

Always fucked my kyogre jug up

[spiral ridge]

IS IT??? I’ve hit way more than I should have then

[rustic mountain]

yea

[spiral ridge]

Pretty sure I’ve hit a confusion hurricane in sun

[solid frigate]

me with H-Typhlosion Volc Sun Team:

[dapper crag]

Move: Hurricane

Has a 30% chance to confuse the target. This move can hit a target using Bounce, Fly, or Sky Drop, or is under the effect of Sky Drop. If the weather is Primordial Sea or Rain Dance, this move does not check accuracy. If the weather is Desolate Land or Sunny Day, this move's accuracy is 50%. If this move is used against a Pokemon holding Utility Umbrella, this move's accuracy remains at 70%.

Type

Flying

Category

Special

Power

110

Accuracy

70

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Wind

Triggers Wind Power and Wind Rider.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[spiral ridge]

Well that game was luckier than I thought

Well would you look at that

[craggy dagger]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[spiral ridge]

That was one lucky confuse hurricane in sun then
Still lost tho

[craggy dagger]

scotty go get teachings from emma abou that team i just hated on-

[spiral ridge]

Pft

Can I just be given the team and fuck around and find out ?

Ik each the mons well enough from facing them I can give it a shot :3

[craggy dagger]

https://pokepast.es/b5272b84c32b4b28

[spiral ridge]

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/6cde4409137c28b8 think i can replace incin with talon here? speed control would be nice

maybe even sunny day

[craggy dagger]

196+ Atk Choice Band Arcanine-Hisui Rock Slide vs. 236 HP / 36 Def Altaria: 146-174 (81.1 - 96.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+1 76+ SpA Primarina Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 124+ SpD Altaria: 180-212 (98.9 - 116.4%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
horrible odds but oh well

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2177428893

team goes well

[timber falcon]

water fall into the whim was big brain

didnt expect rilla to do so much damage

anyone have an idea on how to ev talon flame?

[craggy dagger]

max max ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 663: Talonflame

Types

Fire/Flying

Abilities

Flame Body, Gale Wings (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

78/81/71/74/69/126

Total

499

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[nocturne holly]

Bo3 anyone?

[timber falcon]

im up for one

[nocturne holly]

User?

[timber falcon]

SSOTOT3

[nocturne holly]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9vgc2024regh-2177444779

[crimson sonnet]

BSS still pretty dead?

[mighty stump]

Always has been

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2177446747-v5gyku9l3uveex9qwllviwlgclnx407pw

This is brutal

[craggy dagger]

ouch

[timber falcon]

i think you quit the Bo3 bro

[nocturne holly]

BRO I DIDNT MEAN TO FORFEIT THE WHOKE THINT

[timber falcon]

LMAO

[nocturne holly]

IUST THAT ONE

[timber falcon]

dw ive been there

[atomic mural]

wow

[nocturne holly]

Why wasn’t it ots

[timber falcon]

you had to accept it lol

[atomic mural]

he kept requesting it

[nocturne holly]

Oh mb lol

but it’s bo3 aren’t they all

Out did I send the invite as a bo1

And just made it bo3

[timber falcon]

leak the dengo set?

[nocturne holly]

Mine?

[timber falcon]

yeah the speed

[nocturne holly]

Uhhh it’s throws

[timber falcon]

i see, ill ask when hes online

[nocturne holly]

Alr one more

[timber falcon]

for the W right?

[nocturne holly]

Ye

[timber falcon]

aight

says ur offline

[atomic mural]

do you guys know the common spread the ape uses for the bulk up set?

[timber falcon]

all i know is theyre pretty fast. Faster than id like

[nocturne holly]

I sent

[hazy silo]

Does anyone got a shiny flygon or shiny Salamanca for trade

[nocturne holly]

You’re offline now

[timber falcon]

i refreshed cause it didnt pop up

try sending now

[timber falcon]

wrong channel btw

[hazy silo]

Oop

[craggy dagger]

go to #1112832566261731328 or #trading_sv_shiny for those

[timber falcon]

ggs

[nocturne holly]

Gg

elecatavuzz annoying as hell

[timber falcon]

why i love it

[nocturne holly]

to play against

[timber falcon]

its actually decent into this meta

[nocturne holly]

yea super fang + shadow ball double up into dengo is crazy covers for tera and non tera

Unless you like tera dark

[timber falcon]

i feel like i wasted a lot of my picks with sneasler, rilla + incin combo was needed

seeing as i cant hit dengo with it lol

[nocturne holly]

Yea incin was needed

tbh dragon tera is just really good into your team

[timber falcon]

bro i skipped the turn and was flabberghasted to see my dengo was gone

[nocturne holly]

on my end

[timber falcon]

yeah only got neutrals

[nocturne holly]

Yea the only time that play is bad is if super fang misses and you ohko my dengo 😔

which is like a 10% chance

[timber falcon]

and that taunt onto buzz

that was the seal

[nocturne holly]

Buzz is hella fast

[long narwhal]

Best dragon legendary for mono dragon team?

[nocturne holly]

You’re play into me is what I did

Protect dengo taunt maus

[timber falcon]

made it to be guaanteed faster than peli

[nocturne holly]

What spe does it hit

[timber falcon]

130

with like 36 evs invested

[nocturne holly]

Wait how did it outspeed my maus one game

Maus hits 131

With no investment

[timber falcon]

was it paralysed?

[timber falcon]

im cacling for 132 rn

thats a situation that can benefit me

[nocturne holly]

Yea that’s good

Going 12 spe into maus just for that

So I hit 133
Just so I beat you 😈

[timber falcon]

also im cosidering losing FO on sneasler for tera dark and then a dakr move

[nocturne holly]

Sneasler has fo?

[timber falcon]

and the cycle continues

mhm

[nocturne holly]

But yea your dengo mu is kinda horrendous tbh

Really only dengo and incin hit me and uhhhh

Maus beat them 😈

[timber falcon]

ive been wishing for dark shifu to be allowed

WAIT'

[nocturne holly]

Mhm is sneasler grassy seed

[timber falcon]

CANT I JUST USE GAMBIT????

[nocturne holly]

Show the paste

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/c518d4657001459a

its dragos

but it was for reg G, so evs might be a tad off

[craggy dagger]

gambit exists yes

[timber falcon]

im replacing incin w gambit

[nocturne holly]

If you do gambit I only see it over dengo

[timber falcon]

assault vest

[craggy dagger]

ehhhh
i would keep incin though

[timber falcon]

incin has been an island mon for me

the fire typing isnt helping at all

ill just test gambit out for now

[nocturne holly]

Tbh incin also really helps your dengo mu

[timber falcon]

true, but it doesnt have the same offensive capabilities as gambit

[atomic mural]

hey whats the most defense evs you would put on an archaludon

[timber falcon]

ugh

outrageous

[atomic mural]

i forget minior is a pokemon

[timber falcon]

got the W lmao

[atomic mural]

i wanna see this replay

[timber falcon]

second time ive seen it

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2177462579

last two mons crumbled

[atomic mural]

and with tatsu

[timber falcon]

yeah idk what the game plan is after minior

[atomic mural]

yeah that team has a horrible rillaboom matchup

[timber falcon]

minior definietly had acrobatics

[atomic mural]

yeah

but i dont know why they didnt use it

maybe they didnt

so it was shell smash and earthquake

maybe it had protect

if he didnt use acro I bet it was some rock move

either way he threw

[shadow wind]

Y’all see after you trick room tech?

[atomic mural]

yeah

[shadow wind]

Getting rid of that priority is wild.

I feel like it isn’t 100% amazing though.

[atomic mural]

+4 4 Def Archaludon Body Press vs. 252 HP / 156+ Def Eviolite Porygon2: 128-152 (66.6 - 79.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

the plus 4 is from a beat up from one of the beat up mons

[shadow wind]

Yup yup.

I hate porygon2.

Now Tera poison.

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 774: Minior

Types

Rock/Flying

Abilities

Shields Down

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

60/100/60/100/60/120

Total

500

Other Formes

Minior-Meteor

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[shadow wind]

Minior got some wild stats.

Minior and Eiscue are very similar pokemon.

Is belly drum eiscue even good?

Like a 130 speed mon is kind of wild.

[solid frigate]

for an Ice Type,It fits a Niche for if you dislike Glaive Rush’s Drawback

But personally not recommended

[shadow wind]

Yeah, especially in a Gholdengo heavy meta.

[solid frigate]

i have to look at the moveset

[dapper crag]

Eiscue's moveset:

Physical Moves

Avalanche, Body Slam, Dive, Double-Edge, Facade, Flip Turn, Giga Impact, Head Smash, Headbutt, Ice Punch, Ice Spinner, Icicle Crash, Icicle Spear, Iron Head, Liquidation, Reversal, Tackle, Take Down, Waterfall, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Blizzard, Brine, Chilling Water, Freeze-Dry, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Powder Snow, Round, Snore, Surf, Tera Blast, Water Pulse, Weather Ball, Whirlpool

Status Moves

Agility, Amnesia, Aqua Ring, Attract, Aurora Veil, Belly Drum, Endure, Feather Dance, Hail, Iron Defense, Mist, Protect, Rain Dance, Reflect, Rest, Sleep Talk, Snowscape, Soak, Substitute

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Eiscue.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[solid frigate]

Well…..

The moveset looks Miserable

if it has idk Stomping Tantrum or Earthquake i think it can be a decent Niche

[atomic mural]

https://pokepast.es/8edf9478be42472f Im kinda thinking of changing of P2's Tera Type

[shadow wind]

Poison is also a very good TType for it.

[atomic mural]

honestly nvm

ghost is to ignore fake out

which is worth to keep

[shadow wind]

Yup.

[atomic mural]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reghbo3-2177478603-noy88ljovpay8q6noomx49vd7kjx80qpw bro was not happy

this was gonna be best of 3 but he left after round 1

[shadow wind]

That’s his fault for not running sash Lilligant.

What kind of crazy person.

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2177493492

[molten oasis]

There’s a live action lilo and stitch

I hate Disney

[atomic mural]

ew

[foggy lodge]

What

[atomic mural]

I just looked it up

[molten oasis]

You heard me lol

Also Snow White is getting a live action

They both look terrible

Well, again i suppose

[foggy lodge]

the stitch one doesn't look bad imo

Just why

[molten oasis]

I’m not a fan

Just cuz, like, they need to stop doing these

[foggy lodge]

Yeh

[solid frigate]

why thr do that

Like why

[molten oasis]

Money

[timber falcon]

how do they even make that

[molten oasis]

Great question

[timber falcon]

hopefully the cgi isnt horrible

he looks like a teddy bear

[craggy dagger]

i shouldn’t be too bad imo-

[burnt timber]

I need to use a grass type to counter eventual dondozo, im considering a loaded dice breloom but im also considering rillaboom

Only problem is that rillaboom uses a choice band set and i already have choice band on my urshifu

Any advice?

[timber falcon]

change the item?

[burnt timber]

Well thats gonna ruin the whole moveset

[timber falcon]

you can even use amoongus with clear smog btw, is a better answer

[burnt timber]

Hmmmm, only thing is i dont have a comp ready amoongus

[timber falcon]

then make a comp ready one

[burnt timber]

Damn

[bold geode]

The one where Stitch looks like a fucked up creature?

[molten oasis]

yuh

[timber falcon]

you say that as if the 4 armed antenna in head dark blue furry demon wasnt fucked up looking

[bold geode]

But it could still be cute
The live action just looked worse than something a grandpa's cankle would conceive

[timber falcon]

true, its also lost a bunch of saturation

[nocturne holly]

stitch is NOT cute

Even in animated form

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/kristigocouple2024-gif-9155654980434965861

[craggy dagger]

whaaaa

[timber falcon]

ok maybe the eyes

[craggy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/family-gif-18365304646388690777

[timber falcon]

well thats nostalgic

[nocturne holly]

ok never mind haven’t seen him in a while

low key the eyes sell

[craggy dagger]

true

[nocturne holly]

can’t imagine him like irl tho

some et type shit

[shadow wind]

Bro kind of built like a bulldog.

[nocturne holly]

Nah fr

[foggy lodge]

Goated movie

[bold geode]

Nova
Have you seen the abomination that is live action Stitch?

[nocturne holly]

Buddy is on something 😭

[solid frigate]

Tbf he looks so fluffy but i kinda hope they end these

[tranquil lance]

hey, wanted to build a team that has Illumise and Ribombee on it, Illumise as support with prankster tailwind and a few other things, and ribombee as a massive Sp. Attacker. im just unsure whether i wanted to run a weather team and with what weather, i had a idea of using leafeon or vaporeon but also maybe using glaceon or froslass on a snow team im not sure, any suggestions?

[solid frigate]

soooo just one thing,How much experience you have on Competitive Pokemon

[nocturne holly]

Bo3 anyone?

[solid frigate]

VGC Specifically

[nocturne holly]

Singles?

[solid frigate]

sure

[nocturne holly]

Almost everyone active in this chat is a doubles player Lol

[nocturne holly]

Sour Cigar

[tranquil lance]

doubles sorry, and ive watched a bunch of team building videos and ive been wanting to do a team with these pokemon recently but never actually participated in actual competitive.

[molten oasis]

id like to watch

[molten oasis]

link to watch?

[nocturne holly]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9vgc2024regh-2177563880

[molten oasis]

good watch

[solid frigate]

you really u turn a lot

[molten oasis]

@nocturne holly STOP CLICKING U-TURN

[nocturne holly]

Ggs

[nocturne holly]

yessir

[nocturne holly]

I didn’t lie huh

[molten oasis]

if you clicked darts t1 you were immediately in a big big lead

you dont click dart like at all

which is pult's entire identidy

[bold geode]

[molten oasis]

[nocturne holly]

I don’t really like darts tbh

[molten oasis]

THEN DONT USE DRAGAPULT

[nocturne holly]

no

[molten oasis]

THATS THE ENTIRE REASON BEHIND USING DRAGAPULT

[nocturne holly]

tera blast ghost is the shit

[bold geode]

[nocturne holly]

darts turn 1 was prob better tbh

[molten oasis]

oh

there were, so many times you could have clicked darts

that would have been better than you u-turning

[bold geode]

Bitch don't click Darts on Pult?

[molten oasis]

tbf @solid frigate you didnt capitalize much on his pivots

[molten oasis]

yea he uses banded pult to click u-turn

that was the only thing he clicked the entire set

[bold geode]

@nocturne holly you're banned from the Tomboy Outback

[nocturne holly]

Tf

[timber falcon]

how to ev archaludon

[bold geode]

Churchaludon

[nocturne holly]

Yea I do have to get better at using darts

[molten oasis]

ok well, Sour, click darts more, your not a u-turn bot

[bold geode]

Bro has to get better at clicking a button

[solid frigate]

yeah i did not expect he just Spam Uturn and Parting shot

[molten oasis]

i dont use pult for tera ghost tera blast i use it for darts

[timber falcon]

ive finished with swampert, so im tryna use more meta teams.

[molten oasis]

now you know for later

[timber falcon]

havent u used archaludon

[bold geode]

I've literally like only really seen Tera Dragon Dragon Darts

[molten oasis]

maximize on bulk, hit some speed if you want to outspeed smth, spA dump

i have to go to work now

[solid frigate]

I’m using a Different team,Typhlosion Volca Sun Team

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-22295199

[timber falcon]

bye bye

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/mortal-kombat-scorpion-get-over-here-mk11-mortal-kombat11-gif-17129778

I really wanted that gif to end in Scorpion kissing someone

[timber falcon]

Archaludon @ Assault Vest
Ability: Stamina
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature

• Electro Shot
• Flash Cannon
• Body Press
• Draco Meteor

munchstats reg G set

[bold geode]

Atrocious

[solid frigate]

w h a t the fuck is that EV Spread

[nocturne holly]

Eruption surprisingly does less than I thought it would do to pult with friend guard

[bold geode]

Literally I use Tofu's EV spread everytime lmao

[timber falcon]

of what

[solid frigate]

i just use my set lol

[timber falcon]

oh typhlosion

[bold geode]

Go back in his blogposts, he has the set in like 2 of em

[solid frigate]

Archaludon @ Assault Vest
Ability: Stamina
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 44 SpA / 180 SpD / 28 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Body Press
• Electro Shot
• Flash Cannon
• Dragon Pulse

Grass Tera seems to be better in this Reg

[timber falcon]

gracias

[nocturne holly]

yea I understand
but it worked

[molten oasis]

Because the opponent didn’t capitalize on it

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/d02ff4100c99cea2 uhh any clue for last mon

[nocturne holly]

the only times I saw that could’ve put me into trouble would’ve been u turn into volc and he sets up

[molten oasis]

Dude

Doesn’t matter, he NEVER did anything to you when you pivoted

[nocturne holly]

What was he supposed to do?

[bold geode]

Bro don't like spread Dragon damage

[molten oasis]

Anything else

[nocturne holly]

no 😡

[molten oasis]

Punish with a switch of his own

Get damage off

The point is you need to click darts more

[nocturne holly]

ok

[molten oasis]

Darts put you in a better position a lot of the time

[nocturne holly]

😔

[bold geode]

I didn't even see the match

[nocturne holly]

I’m scared to use darts

[solid frigate]

Just spam the Child Yeet Button

[molten oasis]

ok, don’t use pult

Use it for what it’s best at or don’t at all

[nocturne holly]

Bro

Pult is really good at pivoting too
chip it down with u turn and stuff and then close with darts or something

[timber falcon]

with tera dragon thing should run smoothly no?

[nocturne holly]

I should explore more pult dart plays tho

Follow me darts is very good I imagine

[nocturne holly]

I’m tera ghost blast

[molten oasis]

Ok so is shifu

What’s ur point

[dapper crag]

Move: Phantom Force

If this move is successful, it breaks through the target's Baneful Bunker, Detect, King's Shield, Protect, or Spiky Shield for this turn, allowing other Pokemon to attack the target normally. If the target's side is protected by Crafty Shield, Mat Block, Quick Guard, or Wide Guard, that protection is also broken for this turn and other Pokemon may attack the target's side normally. This attack charges on the first turn and executes on the second. On the first turn, the user avoids all attacks. If the user is holding a Power Herb, the move completes in one turn.

Type

Ghost

Category

Physical

Power

90

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Charge

Has a charging turn.

Contact

Makes contact.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[nocturne holly]

that I can close with darts?

[solid frigate]

I rather use Phantom Force cuz it actually breaks Wide Guard

(I actually know that a few days ago)

[bold geode]

Shifu's gone

[molten oasis]

You gonna close the game on a whimsi when you’re locked into dart?

[nocturne holly]

yea I also use phantom force

[molten oasis]

Monke shut im making a point

[nocturne holly]

Then I lock into something else?

[timber falcon]

actually, wouldnt the play be to pivot pult maybe at the start, then use darts for a sweep????

dragapult looks nice for cleaning up

[molten oasis]

There were a lot of times I feel like sour clicked u-turn when pforce or darts was free

[timber falcon]

any replays?

[molten oasis]

I’m not gonna continue arguing about this THE POINT IS

CLICK DARTS, stop wimping out on clicking darts

Even if you don’t think so that’s where Pults value comes from

[solid frigate]

just go on offensive

[bold geode]

Counting arguments

[timber falcon]

any fun looking mons to build around?

[solid frigate]

Like Dragon Darts is free when iy targets on single Opponent when the allies is immune to Dragon Type Moves

[shadow wind]

Toxtricity🎸🎸

[solid frigate]

honestly thats an actual good mon that has a Great Niche cuz Electric Types are basically gone

[shadow wind]

Exactly.

And only 2 weaknesses is epic.

Quad weak to ground sucks but that’s ok.

[molten oasis]

It’s ok

[solid frigate]

Its ok honestly

[molten oasis]

If you want an electric type I think Rotom is underexplored

[shadow wind]

I like its ability, very unique.

[timber falcon]

has anyone seen it in showdown yet?

[bold geode]

So me and Mika held a tour yesterday and literally the highest Electric Mon used was a single Kilowattrell

[shadow wind]

Tox?

[molten oasis]

lol

[solid frigate]

i forgot about Rotom and Kilowatterl-

[molten oasis]

Can you send the tournament link? I wanna see the teams

Maybe next week I’ll try playing with the stuff Throw and I are working on

[timber falcon]

how do i join tours/tounaments?

[shadow wind]

One of the only bad thing about Toxtricity is that he cannot for the life of him hit Archaludon.

[molten oasis]

Which means i have a long weekend ahead of me lol

[solid frigate]

i think if Rillaboom is not here then Disquake teams could have a play but Somehow grassy Terrain nerfs EQ for no explained Reason

[molten oasis]

I’m in the middle of hunting a 0 or 1 speed shiny (hopefully alpha) ursaluna

[timber falcon]

good luck

[molten oasis]

Although idk how important 0 speed is

[solid frigate]

To be slowest Mon alive behind Amogus?

[shadow wind]

Just use Snorlax.

[molten oasis]

Did tofu leave comp chat?

[shadow wind]

Easy.

[timber falcon]

so does anyone know how i can take part in a tour/tournament? even if its one of the shwodown ones

[shadow wind]

Limitless.

[molten oasis]

I like a mode that doesn’t rely on set up so no

[timber falcon]

i can still see his name

[shadow wind]

Tournament website.

[molten oasis]

@mighty stump how important is it to have 0 speed on Ursa normal?

[molten oasis]

My phone was lagging

[timber falcon]

oh i knew it existed, i guess i forgot i could sign up myself

[shadow wind]

Yuh.

[molten oasis]

I need to start doing tournaments and eventually draft leagues too

[solid frigate]

why did you say that

[molten oasis]

My phone was lagging and the name wouldn’t pop up

[solid frigate]

Ah ok

[molten oasis]

Now I’m actually going into work

I’ll be around but it’s Saturday, so probably not too much

[solid frigate]

see ya later

[nocturne holly]

Yea the reason I u turned there was I was scared that whims would moonblast into me

[nocturne holly]

Fair

I also like u turn but I get it

[molten oasis]

You better lol

[nocturne holly]

Yea I gotta use darts more

[molten oasis]

I might play pao pult Zac again in restricted lol

I did well with it everytime I played it

[nocturne holly]

oh shit that low key sounds so fun

Pao and zac is niceee

[solid frigate]

I might as well edit my Pagos Team and do some Miraidon Editing

Nothing to big for me cuz they have their Merits

[nocturne holly]

Pao pult zac kyogre 😈

[solid frigate]

kek

[timber falcon]

finding the time to join a tournament is more difficult than i thought :/

[shadow wind]

Yup.

[nocturne holly]

@molten oasis am I learning
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2177585318
I was having withdrawals so I had to click u turn at the end 😔

[timber falcon]

wait a second

i wouldve forgotten since tropius is flyin FO would land

[nocturne holly]

Woah I didn’t even realize that

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 357: Tropius

Types

Grass/Flying

Abilities

Chlorophyll, Solar Power, Harvest (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

99/68/83/72/87/51

Total

460

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[shadow wind]

I think you should’ve targeted the Hatterene instead of the Torkoal.

[timber falcon]

what?

[shadow wind]

Cause the game would’ve just ended if Hatterene popped.

And flareblitz would’ve been sun boosted.

Unless you don’t have blitz.

[nocturne holly]

Yea so I may have forgotten if psychic terrain was on

[shadow wind]

Nah goated.

[nocturne holly]

yea I was targeting torkoal so rilla wouldn’t die

[timber falcon]

muscle memory

[nocturne holly]

I don’t I have wisp

[shadow wind]

Ah I’m the makes more sense.

Then never mind.

[nocturne holly]

But if rilla did die and I did get the KO on hat I could’ve brought on pult and dragon darts would’ve won the game

[shadow wind]

Cause flareblitz would have killed but if just didn’t have it then you made the right play.

[nocturne holly]

Ye

[shadow wind]

How does serene grace work with high crit rate moves?

[dapper crag]

Ability: Serene Grace

This Pokemon's moves have their secondary effect chance doubled. This effect stacks with the Rainbow effect, except for secondary effects that cause the target to flinch.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[nocturne holly]

I hate when people play for double protect and get it

Especially if they aren’t in a losing state

[molten oasis]

An outs an out

[modern harbor]

guys

do the worlds caster ppl not know what theyre talking ab?

i watched the worlds preview show and like

they said the top 3 restricteds going in are mirai caly s and kyogre in that order...

caly ice where??

caly ice has like 30% usage 😭

[foggy lodge]

It's the most used wtf

I suppose because of that road to honolulu tournament??

[molten oasis]

Kyogre? lol

Mirai and CSR sure

Where ice rider tho

[solid frigate]

yeah its more like

CSR,CIR,Miraidon,Zamazenta,Kyogre/Terapagos

[next stump]

did they say that as in usage rate or what they predict will have success?

[solid frigate]

if i see Two calyrexes are in Finals I’m not watching it

[nocturne holly]

Wait when is worlds 😭

[next stump]

next weekend

[modern harbor]

6 days

[shadow wind]

Personally if I see CSR and Terapagos I will not watch either.

[nocturne holly]

oh sick

[solid frigate]

Terapagos Fallen off a bit

[shadow wind]

Still an amazing CSR answer.

[modern harbor]

???

[foggy lodge]

just one week les gooo

[solid frigate]

not really,CSR players have to maintain their Urshifu online

[foggy lodge]

[modern harbor]

i think terapagos is so bad into zama that all of them will be out before the finals

[next stump]

But Zama is so bad into CSR teams that I think it’ll scare off Zama usage

[solid frigate]

not really….

Most Pagos Run Chi Yu and Whims(Not really whims cuz Torn is an Option)

[shadow wind]

Yeah.

Pokémon be like.

[modern harbor]

yea aka everyone will use horse and the stragglers all get fucked lol

[shadow wind]

Yup.

[modern harbor]

tera dragon kinda annoys whims and chi yu tho

[shadow wind]

Groudon PLEASE make top 16. I beg of you 🙏🙏🙏

[solid frigate]

Terapagos kinda does not have a good MU against Caly Ice

[solid frigate]

Whimsicott:Moonblast hello

[shadow wind]

Nothing has a good MU into Caly ice.

Except like Zama.

[modern harbor]

ndw :3

[solid frigate]

i guess Zama if you count that

[shadow wind]

What?

[foggy lodge]

maybe w wide guard it could be used but idk

[modern harbor]

necrozma dawn wings (as if anyone would bring that) lol

[solid frigate]

wide Gurd or More Turtle

[modern harbor]

if i see one im creaming

[solid frigate]

Japan:

[shadow wind]

I’ve heard that even when they use wide guard it’s just a deterrent.

[solid frigate]

what the fuck

[shadow wind]

Like they barely click it.

[solid frigate]

caught in 4K

[modern harbor]

yep

i wanna see something cool

[foggy lodge]

Yep

[modern harbor]

still makes everyone think twice before clicking ab tho

[solid frigate]

no i mean how you word that

[foggy lodge]

i want to see how Terapagos comps evolve

[chrome knot]

i so excited for worldssss

[modern harbor]

sameee

[shadow wind]

My prediction is Miraiodon will win.

[foggy lodge]

There is a team with i think Ogerpon fire and Farigiraf going around

[modern harbor]

i doubt it, i think it will be cir

[foggy lodge]

Also Koraidon Ditto i think

[solid frigate]

Chi Yu is still here definitely

But i wanna see if they pair Raging Bolt

[solid frigate]

for Turtle comp

[foggy lodge]

please raging wins worlds

https://tenor.com/view/raging-bolt-pokemon-paradox-raikou-vgc-gif-17137987366850124151

[solid frigate]

We all agree that Incin will win another worlds

[shadow wind]

Nah I think it won’t this time.

Hot take.

[foggy lodge]

idk it's hard for it

It can perfectly win but it's more 50/50 this gen

It's a hard meta for Inci

[shadow wind]

It really is.

[chrome knot]

cir wins all day

[solid frigate]

I’m gonna go fucking Ballistic if Calyrex won worlds

AGAIN

[foggy lodge]

Urshifu will win 100%

Id be surprised if it doesn't

[nocturne holly]

Cir is the most consistent

[chrome knot]

@modern harbor so do you want the ursa

[solid frigate]

yeah thats why you run it lol

[next stump]

CSR will be like 40% usage calling it now

[modern harbor]

i cant rn >.<

[chrome knot]

in general silly

[nocturne holly]

I also run zacian soooo

[modern harbor]

i think theres a good 50/50 that the team that wins has urshi, rilla, and incin

[solid frigate]

Isn’t only Caly S have All 3 in the formula?

[foggy lodge]

Lets make the worlds bingo

[balmy glen]

Ima be honest with you I think the only good Zama players at worlds this year is both Michaels and myself

[nocturne holly]

Ursh rilla incin is the best core

I’d be surprised if it had anything else

[balmy glen]

There’s also one from Asia but he’s ok

[chrome knot]

wholeheartedly i mean this in a nice way but if u get backshots in a mirror vs some unknown player itll be so funny