Tbh it's gonna be interesting seeing gameplay without even non-restricted legendaries
#competitive_discussion
limpid jewel
I wasn't playing during reg a :p
solid frigate
moment
limpid jewel
I haven't really been too in to competitive play until recently
solid frigate
eh if you have good Attitude in learning,its ok to ask us
Just try to learn the basics and learn the Meta
solid frigate
the pokémon has some pretty rough stats and moves
idk why they are defensive stats lol
craggy dagger
stellar um
blast contrary
solid frigate
budget Tera Starstorm
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/49164d904805ab73 thoughts comment concerns?
cyan smelt
Speed control?
nocturne holly
is fighting coverage that good
cyan smelt
I mean the good thing about both tauros is they resist make it rain and they chunk arch
nocturne holly
Yea I feel that
252+ Atk Tauros-Paldea-Blaze Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 12 Def Archaludon: 158-188 (80.2 - 95.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Yea a double up gets that
252+ Atk Tauros-Paldea-Blaze Close Combat vs. +1 252 HP / 12 Def Archaludon: 108-128 (54.8 - 64.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
cyan smelt
Also fire tauros takes care of tera steel gholdengo
nocturne holly
Also gets it after a per fang
nocturne holly
Also fire tauros takes care of tera steel gholdengo
Also forces the tera
wisp on it is also real mic e
cyan smelt
Yep
nocturne holly
but incin on my team is really good with FO
3 immune to FO is so nice
I only have 2 protects on my teammm
but encore and taunt on maus are so valuable
cyan smelt
A lot of gholdengos don't care if there's resists or anything, they still spam mir anyway
nocturne holly
A lot of gholdengos don't care if there's resists or anything, they still spam m...
Yea does a ton
https://pokepast.es/ad403bb6cd37869e thoughts?
molten oasis
Speed control?
Honestly
Idt I need speed control
And if I really felt like I needed it I’d add tw to hydrei
jade dust
A lot of gholdengos don't care if there's resists or anything, they still spam m...
Choice specs make it rain is that powerful
One of the best abilities ever made too
cyan smelt
I really don't know why people are using h decidueye over flamigo, is it because triple arrows?
chrome knot
yeah
jade dust
Somehow hisuian deci is worse than alola
craggy dagger
is it?
jade dust
nocturne holly
More like low
Hisui is alright
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
jade dust
It’s slower and doesn’t have a good defensive type or good enough defenses to make up for it
nocturne holly
Grass fighting is ass
nocturne holly
It’s slower and doesn’t have a good defensive type or good enough defenses to ma...
Hisui arguably has better bulk
nocturne holly
Yea
molten oasis
the only thing hisui has going for it is scrappy and triple arrows
It carries it
To mediocrity
craggy dagger
Both are trash but hisuian has worse stats
worse stats?
id rather more hp and more attakc rather than being an undecided mixed attacjer
jade dust
To mediocrity
*bottom tier anyway
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
craggy dagger
it gets carried by move
jade dust
worse stats?
id rather more hp and more attakc rather than being an undecided mi...
It’s slower which is a huge deal on it
craggy dagger
It’s slower which is a huge deal on it
just use trick room 
ive used it on a psyspam team before
jade dust
Why would you pick it over amoonguss in trick room
craggy dagger
it works pretty well
jade dust
Or rillaboom
craggy dagger
Why would you pick it over amoonguss in trick room
and why cant you have both?
jade dust
Because then you lack coverage?
craggy dagger
ehhh
it gets good coverage
jade dust
You want to have coverage and defensive switches and having 2 grass is detrimental
craggy dagger
same with having 2 psychic types in an incineroar meta
tell that to psyspam players
what is your point
jade dust
In trick room you want to get the most value you can in those 5 turns and hdeci doesn’t help to archive that
chrome knot
@craggy dagger phart
jade dust
same with having 2 psychic types in an incineroar meta
tell that to psyspam play...
Lol those don’t work well, having a lot of psychic types
Hatterene fell like super hard
chrome knot
hatterene was never good 🔥🔥🔥
jade dust
It was in SwSh
chrome knot
bc armarouge didnt exist yet
craggy dagger
Lol those don’t work well, having a lot of psychic types
there are people who run lots of dual type
whats wrong with running 2 grass types
craggy dagger
isnt that why tera types exist
jade dust
Better to not have to waste your tera for that specific
chrome knot
Grass isn’t a good type to run dual
amoonguss and rillaboom
jade dust
Everyone just uses one grass, either Rilla, Amoonguss or Ogerpon
craggy dagger
chrome knot
anoonguss and meowscarada
jade dust
anoonguss and meowscarada
Amoonguss and who
chrome knot
? meowscarada is going to be the best grass type this reg
craggy dagger
the "urshifu" of this meta minus going through protect?
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
chrome knot
not just flower trick
jade dust
? meowscarada is going to be the best grass type this reg
It was good in early metas but it fell off
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
molten oasis
What’s happening
chrome knot
It was good in early metas but it fell off
welcome to reg H a low power format.
craggy dagger
It was good in early metas but it fell off
and its coming back
just cause something falls off early doesnt mean it'll come back
craggy dagger
What’s happening
discussing double grass types
sure its not the best to run but like
chrome knot
What’s happening
arguing with an idiot
craggy dagger
EMMA
molten oasis
Ah I see
jade dust
arguing with an idiot
Yeah arguing with you
craggy dagger
be nicer smh
chrome knot
sorry you don’t understand anything ever
molten oasis
That’s funny, be nice but that’s funny ngl
craggy dagger
That’s funny, be nice but that’s funny ngl
chrome knot
you are notorious for awful takes that are just ragebait or delusion
molten oasis
What’s the argument if you don’t mind me asking?
chrome knot
unsure which, your call :^)
jade dust
What’s the argument if you don’t mind me asking?
First Deci sucks
molten oasis
Ok
jade dust
Then why bringing 2 grass types is bad
molten oasis
It’s not, bad
craggy dagger
unexplored potential
lets call it that
molten oasis
I don’t fully agree with deci being super strong but I see its viability
Definetly fits on the right teams
craggy dagger
nobody looks around here in this low power area so theres a lot of unexplored potential here
craggy dagger
so you cant really
call it ass because theres too much unexplored
jade dust
I think it’s worse than alola deci
molten oasis
I’m not gonna look at it but I get why others are
craggy dagger
unless its something like magikarp
craggy dagger
alola decidueye needs to decide on whether it wants to be a special attacker or a physical attacker
molten oasis
Hisui Deci has potential
craggy dagger
at least hidueye knows what it wants
molten oasis
I think it’s funny that Prima and incin all have like, good stuff going then alola deci just sucks lol
craggy dagger
lmao long reach??
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
molten oasis
LOL
oh boy I don’t take Rocky helm chip (that’s actually kinda useful but, still eh)
molten oasis
Real
jade dust
It’s a bad ability but hisuian has way worse typing
jade dust
Ghost is one of the best offensive types
craggy dagger
fighting coverage is nice
jade dust
Fighting too but
molten oasis
Right now I think fighting coverage is really valuable
jade dust
Ghost is more consistent
molten oasis
I’m staring at Tauros constantly because of the lack of fighting types
chrome knot
me omw to hit 2 big reg h offensive threats sith my “terrible typing “
craggy dagger
yeahhhhh
molten oasis
lol
jade dust
I’m staring at Tauros constantly because of the lack of fighting types
I mean Mieshao is right there
molten oasis
Nah
craggy dagger
Ghost is more consistent
um um
gholdengo and incineroar sends their regards
jade dust
Hipmontop too
craggy dagger
hehe
Penny is back in business :3
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2177105031
molten oasis
Tauros has intimidate, I like intimidate wisp guy more than the wide guard inner focus guy
jade dust
Tauros has intimidate, I like intimidate wisp guy more than the wide guard inner...
Hitmontop then
craggy dagger
plus wide guard isnt as useful as it is rn
molten oasis
Hitmontop then
I like the intimidate guy with an actual attack stat and wisp over the wide guard intimidate spam guy
jade dust
plus wide guard isnt as useful as it is rn
It blocks make it rain lol
craggy dagger
Hitmontop then
why would you sacrifice fire or water type coverage for pure fighting
i said it isnt as useful as it was rn
craggy dagger
im not saying its useless
its just
not as useful atm
craggy dagger
My Tauros murders gholdengo <:arkeknine:669500432741040129>
TRUE
plus you resist make it rain too
jade dust
Wide guard is better in restricted format but still is valuable in lower power
jade dust
TRUE
plus you resist make it rain too
Doesn’t matter
craggy dagger
Wide guard is better in restricted format but still is valuable in lower power
tell that to reg F me who got my ass beat for running wide guard mienshao
jade dust
Still take massive damage
molten oasis
Doesn’t matter
???
jade dust
Or die anyway
molten oasis
Fckn bet
jade dust
Make it rain is that powerful
jade dust
Tera steel choice specs exist
molten oasis
84+ SpA Gholdengo Make It Rain vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Tauros-Paldea-Blaze: 50-59 (27.4 - 32.4%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
Vs
Oh shit
jade dust
84+ SpA Gholdengo Make It Rain vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Tauros-Paldea-Blaze: 50-59 (27...
Only 84 EVs?
molten oasis
116 Atk Tauros-Paldea-Blaze Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 44 Def Gholdengo: 164-194 (84.5 - 100%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO me forgor Tauros has lower attack lol
craggy dagger
whoa
252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera Steel Gholdengo Make It Rain vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Tauros-Paldea-Blaze: 113-133 (62 - 73%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
thats still ASS damage
jade dust
whoa
252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera Steel Gholdengo Make It Rain vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD ...
Since when 73% of HP is bad damage?
craggy dagger
+2 36+ SpA Metal Coat Gholdengo Make It Rain vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Tauros-Paldea-Blaze: 114-135 (62.6 - 74.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
molten oasis
Make it rain’s a strong ass move
craggy dagger
oh 70 SpD
craggy dagger
Since when 73% of HP is bad damage?
its ass because you'd have to burn tera and lock yourself into make it rain which lowers your special attaxk every usage
molten oasis
It has good defense and ok hp, lacks spD
craggy dagger
105 defense damn
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
molten oasis
Me thinks Tauros good
craggy dagger
116 im assuming you're jolly?
molten oasis
Ty Shrekers, I definetly didn’t know that
jade dust
Tailwind and haze
craggy dagger
you dont need to account for every single scenario dear god
jade dust
you dont need to account for every single scenario dear god
Except it’s the most common one???
craggy dagger
if you do that while teambuilding
you're getting nowhere cause you try to cover everything
and you cant decide
drago drago
hah
my dengo spread lives
your flare blitz
116 Atk Tauros-Paldea-Blaze Flare Blitz vs. 196 HP / 84 Def Gholdengo: 156-186 (83.4 - 99.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
molten oasis
Yea I learned the hard way you can accommodate for as much as you want
craggy dagger
juuuuussst
barely
molten oasis
drago drago
hah
my dengo spread lives
your flare blitz
116 Atk Tauros-Paldea-Bla...
Very epic (I’m crying)
craggy dagger
most run higher special attack less bulk no?
molten oasis
Tbf, I bring Prima to every game with dengo and click CM typically unless it’s krow shit
Nowadays probably unless you’re lefties NP
craggy dagger
metal coat is still cool
craggy dagger
yayayayaya
better choice
atomic mural
i wanna play Regulation H but I cant figure out a team I wanna use when it comes out
molten oasis
Araq p2 peli could be something
atomic mural
whats P2 again im very not smart
molten oasis
Porygon 2
molten oasis
Cool
molten oasis
Araq p2 peli could be something
I’d suggest this
Then like, an ursaluna, Archaludon probably, and then something to patch bad mu’s
Or another thing that doesn’t rely on tr
bold geode
Araquanid would be weird there tbh
Although it's probably closest way to make it work besides Hard TR
craggy dagger
araquanid is a TR mon
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
cyan smelt
Also 140 attack when using water moves
craggy dagger
and immune to burn
cyan smelt
And halves fire type attacks, good against torkoal
chrome knot
@craggy dagger do the stankey leg
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
jade dust
What are totem forms?
craggy dagger
gen 7 mini boss fights
jade dust
Ah
nocturne holly
That’s a good ability
jade dust
Like the titans of SV
craggy dagger
<@541037106496012290> do the stankey leg
the what-
chrome knot
the stankey leg
craggy dagger
That’s a good ability
it gets entrainment too if you wanna mess with that
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
chrome knot
joe
nocturne holly
momma
chrome knot
primarina
nocturne holly
😎
chrome knot
nvm you wouldnt want that
craggy dagger
dunno tbh
jade dust
You lose water hyper voice
jade dust
Unaware is good for it tho
nocturne holly
Yea was just thinking of that?l
craggy dagger
toxic orb endure um
tatsu
Then water bubble the dondozo so it cant be burned and has 2x stab
molten oasis
aww water bubble prima would have been neat lol
chrome knot
just use not hyper voice
craggy dagger
aww water bubble prima would have been neat lol
you lose hyper voice
chrome knot
problem solve itself
jade dust
aww water bubble prima would have been neat lol
Well if you run surf 
nocturne holly
does prima get any other water Stab
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
chrome knot
yes.
chrome knot
boosted hydro pump sounds funny
jade dust
Miss half of the time 
molten oasis
+1 188+ SpA Choice Specs Water Bubble Primarina Hydro Pump vs. 180 HP / 172 SpD Annihilape with Friend Guard: 295-349 (141.8 - 167.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
nuke button
oh why is she +1 bruh
188+ SpA Choice Specs Water Bubble Primarina Hydro Pump vs. 180 HP / 172 SpD Annihilape with Friend Guard: 196-232 (94.2 - 111.5%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
still a nuke button
188+ SpA Choice Specs Water Bubble Primarina Hydro Pump vs. 236 HP / 124+ SpD Tera-Ghost Incineroar with Friend Guard: 189-223 (94.5 - 111.5%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
oh thats WITH friend guard
but that would only work if you got that working
nocturne holly
hardest part is hitting it tho
craggy dagger
188+ SpA Choice Specs Water Bubble Primarina Hydro Pump vs. 236 HP / 124+ SpD Te...
LMAOOO
chrome knot
it would be a gimmick but a funny one
right up someones alley
craggy dagger
right up someones alley
me
atomic mural
https://pokepast.es/89fb830e2796a0b3 this is the first draft I came up with for the first 3
craggy dagger
https://pokepast.es/89fb830e2796a0b3 this is the first draft I came up with for ...
ooo looks good so far
i would um
be wary of archaludons rain of electro shots though
chrome knot
that’s standard
chrome knot
i remember using this when reg F was speculation on showdown lol
craggy dagger
wrong bear
molten oasis
the bloodmoon gifs suck
craggy dagger
also am i the only one that sees um
ursaluna's eyebrows to be clouds covering a moon?
chrome knot
yes
atomic mural
chrome knot
@atomic mural incin ursa amoong p2 core + araquanid + peli
molten oasis
bloodmoon ursa or just normal?
chrome knot
bloodmoon ursa or just normal?
normal
molten oasis
oh really?
chrome knot
mhm
molten oasis
ig p2 ursa is an established thing
chrome knot
ye
jade dust
Lunar blessing removes the burn from ursaluna tho
forest arrow
P2 normal ursa is around
chrome knot
incin amoonguss ursa p2
chrome knot
Lunar blessing removes the burn from ursaluna tho
it re burns at end of turn
molten oasis
yea
forest arrow
Monkes team basically lol
molten oasis
so it doesnt matter
jade dust
it re burns at end of turn
Doesn’t have to wait till next turn?
chrome knot
P2 normal ursa is around
popular core from EUIC onwards
molten oasis
i had ursa on a kommo-o team im fidgeting with for a bit but eh
foggy lodge
No
molten oasis
it was a tad awkward
craggy dagger
Doesn’t have to wait till next turn?
nope
jade dust
Well cress has higher speed so
molten oasis
flame orb always burns at the end of the turn
craggy dagger
cress is faster so the burn bonus hits
then cress heals burn
then um
ursaluna burns
jade dust
Moves after ursaluna in tr
craggy dagger
and rinse and repeat
molten oasis
shrekers the whole thing with cress ursa was you tr, then ursa clicks buttons, then you heal it, then it regains the burn at the end of the turn
craggy dagger
yeahhhhh
molten oasis
it didn't pick up a ton of traction i think tho
cuz shifu was just, the better bear and tornshifu was insanely dominant
when that was more relevant
atomic mural
<@773247961765380207> incin ursa amoong p2 core + araquanid + peli
https://pokepast.es/03a6f2655c07114d so this?
atomic mural
i didnt do the tera yet oops
molten oasis
fairy tera on amoonguss?
chrome knot
fan of tera grass bear rn & try eq > dance ur team looks to pressure in tr immediately
molten oasis
tera grass? just for defensive reasons?
chrome knot
i dont want a glide or jet punch to eat my ass ngl
molten oasis
totally fair
atomic mural
molten oasis
i think pala is handled fine with amoonguss but glide is a different story
cyan smelt
Might go tera grass on ursa bm
cyan smelt
Tera normal is a nuke
molten oasis
although i think fairy is popping up a tiny bit here and there
chrome knot
https://pokepast.es/1d9dcc3ab45051cf
yeah try this
realize ur going to be playing long ass games tho
the moment YOU rush your turns you’ll start losing
molten oasis
p2 moment
craggy dagger
whyyyyyyyyyyy
252+ SpA Milotic Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 28+ SpD Altaria: 160-192 (87.9 - 105.4%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO
chrome knot
bc milotic sucks nova
molten oasis
who is running 252 modest milotic LOL
craggy dagger
196+ Atk Choice Band Arcanine-Hisui Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 76 Def Altaria: 138-164 (75.8 - 90.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
molten oasis
POV: head smash
craggy dagger
bc milotic sucks nova
im not calcing for milotic emma
strange fjord
Worlds, just a week away guys!
craggy dagger
molten oasis
cant wait to not watch it cuz fuck reg g
strange fjord
Which restricted winning worlds?
molten oasis
(we go back to it in january im still coping)
molten oasis
Which restricted winning worlds?
CSR or CIR no question
craggy dagger
cant wait to not watch it cuz fuck reg g
ill watch um
tcg and unite ig
molten oasis
its like, the only thing online tbh
i think unite is really interesting to watch
at NAIC i watched it a lot when it wasn't vgc
chrome knot
Which restricted winning worlds?
cir all day
strange fjord
honse
chrome knot
@craggy dagger nova gnnnn
molten oasis
i HATE csr so much
craggy dagger
+2 252+ SpA Metal Coat Gholdengo Make It Rain vs. 252 HP / 28+ SpD Altaria: 175-207 (96.1 - 113.7%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
molten oasis
stupid horse
craggy dagger
<@541037106496012290> nova gnnnn<a:KissuNose:692926171771568149>
gn emma
molten oasis
+2 252+ SpA Metal Coat Gholdengo Make It Rain vs. 252 HP / 28+ SpD Altaria: 175-...
who is max spA modest on nasty plot
atomic mural
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
craggy dagger
who is max spA modest on nasty plot
im prepping for worst case scenarios
chrome knot
h o w
craggy dagger
hence why i run max max
molten oasis
fair ig
molten oasis
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reghbo3-2177122873-n59fn1rj2gqmexp...
sir the url does not work
craggy dagger
252+ SpA Choice Specs Gholdengo Make It Rain vs. 252 HP / 28+ SpD Altaria: 109-129 (59.8 - 70.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
atomic mural
oopsies
jade dust
i HATE csr so much
Those substitute or bulky builds is completely bullshit. I rather deal with the max SpcA max speed ones
molten oasis
well, i just suck at fighting them lol;
they all have incin and my restricted despises it
jade dust
Those that make those 2 builds should be beheaded
molten oasis
although adding pelipper was actually very helpful
jade dust
Didn’t you use snow?
molten oasis
thats not, no
craggy dagger
what else do i need to calc for this cloud
molten oasis
my main restricted is Zacian
craggy dagger
blizzard is out of the question
molten oasis
what else do i need to calc for this cloud
252+ specs tera ice blizzard from primarina
no jk, uhm
moonblast from +1 primarina
atomic mural
craggy dagger
252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera Ice Primarina Blizzard vs. 252 HP / 28+ SpD Altaria: 384-456 (210.9 - 250.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
molten oasis
LOL
atomic mural
craggy dagger
200%
atomic mural
i put the games in the wrong order
atomic mural
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reghbo3-2177124570-yzdu7pff09ymk7v...
this is game 2
molten oasis
108+ is the second bump
craggy dagger
alr ill calc both then
molten oasis
HAHA WHAT
craggy dagger
nevermind
i dont even need to calc the second bump
molten oasis
why'd he eball his own fucking dengo
craggy dagger
+1 76+ SpA Choice Specs Primarina Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 28+ SpD Altaria: 290-344 (159.3 - 189%) -- guaranteed OHKO
molten oasis
its specs
craggy dagger
oh its specs thats why but i dont think its still living it
atomic mural
it was either trying to get his garchomp in safely
molten oasis
prob not
craggy dagger
yeah...
+1 76+ SpA Primarina Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 28+ SpD Altaria: 194-230 (106.5 - 126.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
molten oasis
it was either trying to get his garchomp in safely
he's throwing lol
atomic mural
yeah he did throw
molten oasis
tbf
cyan smelt
That was funny
craggy dagger
damn
exactly 100%
+1 76+ SpA Primarina Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 100+ SpD Altaria: 182-216 (100 - 118.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
molten oasis
yea why didn't you bring incin into gholdengo?
molten oasis
damn
exactly 100%
+1 76+ SpA Primarina Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 100+ SpD Altaria: ...
oof
atomic mural
im very silly
foggy lodge
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reghbo3-2177122873-n59fn1rj2gqmexp...
That double nasty plot play was so greedy lol
molten oasis
and then he killed his own gholdengo
foggy lodge
They don't fear anything
molten oasis
im crying dude
craggy dagger
mmm
now im scared of this
196+ Atk Choice Band Arcanine-Hisui Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Altaria: 152-180 (83.5 - 98.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
cyan smelt
Big throw
craggy dagger
ehhh
196+ Atk Choice Band Arcanine-Hisui Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 36 Def Altaria: 146-174 (80.2 - 95.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+1 76+ SpA Primarina Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 124+ SpD Altaria: 180-212 (98.9 - 116.4%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
craggy dagger
252 Atk Choice Band Arcanine-Hisui Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 36 Def Altaria: 138-164 (75.8 - 90.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
molten oasis
adamant
craggy dagger
252+ Atk Choice Band Arcanine-Hisui Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 36 Def Altaria: 152-180 (83.5 - 98.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
molten oasis
nice
craggy dagger
thats good enough i think
lives on roll
plus pinch berry
ill take it
though
the only problem with this is now im at 110 speed
as a tailwind setter
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
craggy dagger
Hestia (Altaria) (F) @ Iapapa Berry
Ability: Cloud Nine
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 236 HP / 36 Atk / 36 Def / 124 SpD / 76 Spe
Careful Nature
- Haze
- Will-O-Wisp
- Breaking Swipe
- Protect
molten oasis
its also base 80 speed how fast was it realistically getting
craggy dagger
fair
molten oasis
good luck with that
https://pokepast.es/e61f4331c1fb19b0 anyway these 3 are fun, any thoughs to finish up the core?
probably something for steel types
cyan smelt
Tr sweeper
molten oasis
sini was kinda just a tr reveral guy but sure
cyan smelt
Oh
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normal ursa probably couldnt hurt
craggy dagger
whats um
a good item for corviknight
cyan smelt
Rocky helmet or pinch berry
molten oasis
whats um
a good item for corviknight
sitrus or helm
craggy dagger
on this?
Corviknight
Ability: Mirror Armor
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 196 HP / 20 Atk / 76 Def / 116 SpD / 100 Spe
Impish Nature
- Iron Defense
- Body Press
- Brave Bird
- Protect
molten oasis
more value out of clicking lance
jade dust
But well caly ice has very high defenses so with follow me and healing it stays up
It doesn’t need trick room but it’s nice to have
jade dust
Bulk up partners are very valuable too
molten oasis
i think a common misconception with it is you need to have tr set up to get it going
which in reality, yes and no
its mu dependent
but you dont need tr to win
jade dust
Against miraidon for example is a necessity
molten oasis
unlike a lot of other teams that are tr oriented
molten oasis
unless miraidon just attacks
tera electric edrift probably kills or does a major chunk to CIR
with HH definetly kills
jade dust
Well I set it with Cress or Fari and protect with caly
forest arrow
Yeah in that mu tr has to go up
jade dust
Or lead inci and cress and tera cress and parting shot inci
molten oasis
oh for sure yea
molten oasis
amoonguss is still really valuable tho
jade dust
Amoongus is punished for it
I mean amoonguss can still rage power and pollen puff
molten oasis
yea
forest arrow
Yeah I usually rage powdered the volt switch
jade dust
Just not spore
molten oasis
i thought about maybe playing mirai when reg g rolls back around
forest arrow
It’s fun I know I will be, I miss iron hands
molten oasis
but mirai is also a differnet playstyle then waht i usually play
and i hate the horses so
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
jade dust
Lunala does well against caly s
molten oasis
GAME FREAK! Give Golisopod a real ability, and my life is yours
jade dust
Caly ice is hard without amoonguss against caly s
forest arrow
Lunala was fun, but difficult to pilot
molten oasis
Lunala does well against caly s
since when?
jade dust
You really need amoonguss to deal with claf
jade dust
since when?
Its ability and calm mind
nocturne holly
GAME FREAK! Give Golisopod a real ability, and my life is yours
give archeops a better ability 😡
molten oasis
POV CSR clicking astral barrage immediately
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
molten oasis
see
nocturne holly
Bro would be the shit if it got something good
jade dust
POV CSR clicking astral barrage immediately
Tera fairy lunala
forest arrow
You were most likely clicking Tera fairy with screens
molten oasis
archeops would still be mid if it got a real ability
molten oasis
Tera fairy lunala
tera fairy CSR
nocturne holly
nuh uh
molten oasis
now CSR kisses you over and over again until you die
jade dust
Yeah and lunala has impressive SpcD
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
atomic mural
bro I looked up Porygon2 and Araquanid on google and got an article that has the title: "If you’re not running Porygon2 and Araquanid you’re throwing"
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
jade dust
if not for its abysmal ability
Pivoting is good but being forced to it is very questionable
molten oasis
no that forced pivoting is awful for it
nocturne holly
the fuck why doesn’t it get brave bird
jade dust
But well people still use eject button
molten oasis
its extremely niche
bold geode
@molten oasis y'know what I realized
molten oasis
hmm?
bold geode
I got Shroom at -speed nature and max IVs
molten oasis
max speed ivs?
bold geode
Ye
craggy dagger
Maybe dragon to resist fire
oh yeah that’s a better type
bold geode
I forgor to change IVs
molten oasis
oof
bold geode
Honestly it ain't hurting me lmao
cyan smelt
Like putting 252 in sp attack on ursaluna and it still nukes
bold geode
Also Drago I have taken an alt on BO1 ladder from 1-5 to 7-5 now with Primarina lmao
molten oasis
primarina the goat
jade dust
anyone here wanna match?
In smogon since its easier
Im planning my team for the real game and I want to play around with it first before investing
molten oasis
Im planning my team for the real game and I want to play around with it first be...
what reg
jade dust
H
atomic mural
anyone here wanna match?
I would if it wasnt midnight for me
nocturne holly
Revival blessing pawmkt to revive dozo
And bring back dozogiri
What’s worse than one dozo
Two dozos
atomic mural
two donbozos
cyan smelt
Gross
I don't remember people using gholdengo as much in reg a, was it because people didn't know how good it is
jade dust
I would if it wasnt midnight for me
Ah np
atomic mural
reg g sucks
trueee onggg
jade dust
Speaking facts
atomic mural
this new regulation delays the power creep in reg I which is probably gonna be double restricted
nocturne holly
I don't remember people using gholdengo as much in reg a, was it because people ...
No it was crazy in reg a
molten oasis
Speaking facts
ok
nocturne holly
in a sec, yes reg h
Lemme spectate
molten oasis
user?
atomic mural
it also allows me to use araquanid without having to worry about getting decimated by miraidon
jade dust
Shrekers13
cyan smelt
Just get decimated by archaludon instead
jade dust
Lemme spectate
Alright
atomic mural
Just get decimated by archaludon instead
true
atomic mural
nice
molten oasis
@jade dust accept g2 plz
jade dust
I forgot about after you lmao
molten oasis
yea lol
atomic mural
that game was pretty close
molten oasis
its helpful for that specifically
forest arrow
less go
atomic mural
more stop
forest arrow
that flinch game was bullshit
molten oasis
oh for sure wtf was that
atomic mural
oh for sure wtf was that
it was the power of friendship!!! 
gentle cragBOT
it was the power of friendship!!! <:steamhappy:1224148935841415229>
cornyplays has given 1 Gen Rep to drayagedrago
molten oasis
anyone else wanna go?
craggy dagger
meow-?
molten oasis
@craggy dagger prima's my own thing
jade dust
@molten oasis gg, that was fun
molten oasis
throw and i are working on that together
jade dust
The flinches were funny lmao
craggy dagger
<@541037106496012290> prima's my own thing
ohhh
i see
forest arrow
about to shiny hunt polteigheist
molten oasis
<@465881273454559252> gg, that was fun
yea ggs, that second game was bullshit tho lol
atomic mural
https://tenor.com/view/miraidon-pokemon-gif-8428631026920261290
POV: you are araquanid in reg G
jade dust
yea ggs, that second game was bullshit tho lol
Lmao alolan sandlash carried with flinches
molten oasis
seriously
jade dust
All the moves I had flinch
atomic mural
Lmao alolan sandlash carried with flinches
hey you should use bax instead
gentle cragBOT
Result: 0.060000
molten oasis
you're joking
forest arrow
I feel like we have a solid 5
craggy dagger
6% chance total for 5 turns of flinch jn a row
forest arrow
only one im not sure on is rotom
molten oasis
the rotom sure exists LOL
atomic mural
6% chance total for 5 turns of flinch jn a row
0.6% chance not 6%
i think im pretty sure you multiply the dcimals by 10 to get the percentage
molten oasis
nono
craggy dagger
percentage is by 100
forest arrow
i was laughing drago i cant lie
atomic mural
ahh
forest arrow
but wtf man why is your rng so bad
molten oasis
as they say tho
craggy dagger
one zero off 
forest arrow
no joke man
atomic mural
since Im in summer break I lose all brain power related to school
molten oasis
but wtf man why is your rng so bad
you tell me lol
craggy dagger
you still pulled through in the end
molten oasis
the power of bear
forest arrow
Ursaluna was such a great pick
atomic mural
the power of friendship wasnt enough 
craggy dagger
the bear is actually scary af
molten oasis
forest arrow
hopefully rotom shows out
craggy dagger
that twitter post abt someone running 252+ SpA and still shredding through everyone
forest arrow
rotom heat may not be bad too but thats two fire types again
molten oasis
im actually glad i got a team running with ursaluna
jade dust
Facade deleted serperior even through intimidate
molten oasis
yea, cuz facade just hurts lol
atomic mural
that twitter post abt someone running 252+ SpA and still shredding through every...
👍 very epic
molten oasis
ursaluna's my favorite thing out of the hisui games and i havent really played with it
craggy dagger
Facade deleted serperior even through intimidate
one intimidate just brings it down to 1 point less than 252+ atk ursaluna without guts buff
plus stab 140 base power?
molten oasis
yea, still hurts like hell lol
craggy dagger
but also
forest arrow
Can you get another?
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
forest arrow
i can help if not
craggy dagger
mid bulk
molten oasis
what another shiny alpha ursa?
although tbh i might just hunt a normal one, i'd like a low speed one
forest arrow
oh i meant in general you got pla?
molten oasis
oh yea i do
forest arrow
okay cool
molten oasis
i can hunt another one lol
atomic mural
not related to competitive pokemon AT ALL but I bet so much money this is gonna be shit
molten oasis
also yea so the premise of the team is, kommo-o mode and tr mode
since clef and sini work in both contexts
incin too
anyway uh, yippee more dogshit disney movies
they announced Incredibles 3
like, why, stop
craggy dagger
um-
if anyone wants to play a quick Bo1 before i sleep :0
molten oasis
um-
if anyone wants to play a quick Bo1 before i sleep :0
sure
craggy dagger
damn altaria is still Ass
molten oasis
kommo-o or prima team?
molten oasis
damn altaria is still Ass <a:FukingDies:694380769615020132>
how you think OTOT feels with swampert lol
craggy dagger
kommo-o or prima team?
idm-
since i’ll be testing this team i made
craggy dagger
how you think OTOT feels with swampert lol
tbf-
i’ve felt that almost all the time
um if anyone wants to watch
rustic mountain
that twitter post abt someone running 252+ SpA and still shredding through every...
reminds me wen i got top 500ish in early reg c, it was w/ timid pao 
molten oasis
i fucking love this bear lol
craggy dagger
anyways um-
gn
molten oasis
gg wp, gn
spiral ridge
Gn
craggy dagger
i saw the bear come out and i just thought-
welp im fucked-
molten oasis
lol
if i can protect bear bear go brr
and sini+incin do that so fucking well
too bad this wont work in restricted
thx for the games guys
i got a bear to hunt
rustic mountain
molten oasis
you should have seen it
i did a bo3 with shrekers and lost a game to 6 total flinches
5 on my kommo-o
forest arrow
bro in a row
molten oasis
it was so dumb lol
rustic mountain
6 flinches in a game? oof lol
jade dust
Sandlash doesn’t do that much damage sadly
It’s very fast in snow but 100 atk isn’t enough
I just chips away
atomic mural
whats your team again?
I feel like you could easily replace sandslash with baxcalibur
jade dust
Yeah I’m thinking that
I like slush rush but it definitely needs more atk
It was minetales, sandslash, inci, palafin, serperior and farigiraf
molten oasis
bax and rilla or amoonguss probably fit bette over sandslash and serperior
jade dust
bax and rilla or amoonguss probably fit bette over sandslash and serperior
I need a special attacker and has a nasty plot built in that deals a lot of damage
Fari is built to be special attacker too but it’s less powerful than serperior
molten oasis
I need a special attacker and has a nasty plot built in that deals a lot of dama...
gholdengo
is
the best answer by far lol
jade dust
I have a different team that is around gholdengo
jade dust
it doesn't need to be built around dengo, dengo is splashable
Yeah I know how good gholdengo is, one of the most power creep non legendaries, but I want some variety, that’s the whole reason to have multiple teams
My other team had gholdengo and baxcalibur
molten oasis
just use that one then
cuz those options would be the best here
you can make more variety in teams witht he same mons btw
differnet sets and moves affect how something plays
jade dust
Yeah but there is a lot of potential to other mons too. I believe serperior has a lot of potential, the main liability of that team is sandslash
Baxalibur or even Mamoswine are better
I really like the idea of sandslash, it’s a very good offensive combo but it just doesn’t have enough atk to make use of steel ice offense
molten oasis
serperior has competition with rillaboom and meowscarada, and decidueye, and sinistcha, i could go on
serperior isnt good
molten oasis
no
im deadass telling you decidueye is better than serperior
serperior is a gimmick
atm
and idt its very good
jade dust
Idt?
Serperior is gimmicky yeah but it’s a good gimmick. The main weakness of serperior is lack of coverage moves
It only really learns dragon pulse
solid frigate
Thats why it mostly use Tera Blast.
torn parrot
I didn’t get my pizza
shadow wind
I didn’t get my pizza
That sucks.
jade dust
Thats why it mostly use Tera Blast.
Yeah I use tera fire
jade dust
Fire is good coverage for grass
molten oasis
Serperior is gimmicky yeah but it’s a good gimmick. The main weakness of serperi...
no its not
solid frigate
I didn’t get my pizza
Rest in Pepperoni
also yeah Contrary is not really a Gimmicky Strat
jade dust
no its not
I know it has bad SpcA but that’s the whole point of contrary
If it had good base SpcA would be too powerful
molten oasis
ok ty for pointin out my stupidity torrent, its not good
the mon is not good
its does 1 thing decently well, but it explodes too easily and takes too much time to get going
solid frigate
why would they even give it Defense stats when its gonna be killed anyway
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
solid frigate
1.what the fuck are those Stats
2.its only a Niche but i would still say its a meh Niche
molten oasis
+2 serperior is like, not great damage
solid frigate
unless your pokemon is x4 weak to Grass
Yeah no
knotty mirage
I have question do gholdengo really need speed investment or it's fine to makes a bulky one ?
solid frigate
I have question do gholdengo really need speed investment or it's fine to makes ...
both are fine but its generally what item or team you are playing
knotty mirage
Well i kinda want to makes bulkier gholdengo is it best to pair with murkrow then
solid frigate
go for it
jade dust
jade dust
its does 1 thing decently well, but it explodes too easily and takes too much ti...
95 defenses are fine, it doesn’t just explode
+2 serperior deals enough damage, unless they resist grass
It has good speed as well
shadow wind
I want some feedback on this team, it’s been good for me but I’m wondering if there’s something obvious that I missed.
molten oasis
whatever you say man
molten oasis
I want some feedback on this team, it’s been good for me but I’m wondering if th...
ah
the wolfey clef snorlax stuff
looks fine although idk what that toxtricity is doing there
shadow wind
It’s mostly there for damage and helping against rain threats.
Didn’t like the idea of only having set up.
shadow wind
Yup.
And so the most obvious thing in my mind was find something that killed the hazers.
With the most common ones being Palafin, Primarina, and Murkrow an electric type just seemed smart.
shadow wind
And Toxtricity hits a lot harder than it looks. That 1.3x boost from punk rock is no joke.
molten oasis
its a life orb boost
shadow wind
Lorb Kommo?
molten oasis
effectively
solid frigate
And Toxtricity hits a lot harder than it looks. That 1.3x boost from punk rock i...
yep i can confirm that but still
shadow wind
Ohh yeah.
molten oasis
nononono the ability, punk rock lol
molten oasis
anyway yea im doing stuff it just has 2 different modes
it has a trick room mode with sini and the kommo-o sweeping mode
shadow wind
That describes my team as well.
molten oasis
well, snorlax still has to set up
i have ursaluna
so i can just start dishing out damage
shadow wind
Oh yeah well with Sinistcha being present it seemed good.
Ursaluna is also very good.
molten oasis
well yea, wolfey proved that
shadow wind
He also speedties with Amoonguss so can’t complain there.
I also really like how fat he is.
Thick fat is top tier.
shadow wind
He is very handy with it.
molten oasis
thick fat nice
molten oasis
I might try toxtricity to help with my rain mu
could also try rotom wash
cyan smelt
Talk to tofu about Snorlax lol
molten oasis
tofu doesn't like belly drum lax
cyan smelt
Curse lax right
cyan smelt
What about throat spray
shadow wind
Having a 102 BP spread electric move is very nice against pelipper.
I’m using throat spray on Kommo but that also works.
cyan smelt
Hmmmm interesting, lorb sounds decent
shadow wind
I needed a non setup mon so I’m personally using lorb.
I got a good EV spread if you want it.
Optimal lorb HP and can outspeed all pelippers.
cyan smelt
I'll keep toxtricity in mind see if I feel like building something different
shadow wind
I don’t suggest boom burst if you don’t have a sound proof or ghost type options.
For obvious reasons.
cyan smelt
I could run it next to skeledirge
shadow wind
Having a 182 BP move is very epic though.
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
shadow wind
Yeah his defenses kind of suck…
molten oasis
i wish that attack went into speed
shadow wind
And that.
molten oasis
what a waste
shadow wind
But he does have shift gear.
So it’s like, imagine if he had more optimal stats.
75 speed is a rough spot though I will say.
TR allows him to beat out fast mons though so it isn’t the end of the world.
Overdrive is such an amazing move too.
molten oasis
dont use shift gear lol
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
shadow wind
Yup.
And sound based.
I really like leading Kommo + Tox and having them target the Kommo just to die to Tera normal boom burst.
Almost like hitting them with a slightly weaker blood moon.
Actually the damage is somewhat comparable.
136.5 BP when spread.
Just a 114 base spatk instead of 135…
Also do most Ursaluna run modest?
molten oasis
ic
molten oasis
Also do most Ursaluna run modest?
yes
shadow wind
Shucks.
Bless AV Incin.
Living an EP.🙏
I actually recently changed it from goggles incin.
Cause Amoonguss got like negative usage right now.
modern harbor
what kind of evs am i looking at for specs torkoal
knotty mirage
Just focus on bulk and special attack
Something like max HP or sp def and max special attack
craggy dagger
what kind of evs am i looking at for specs torkoal
max max
cyan smelt
The shroom will never lose popularity
chrome knot
what kind of evs am i looking at for specs torkoal
i smell psyspam
mighty stump
Work was rough today
chrome knot
shes not cookinggggg
craggy dagger
chrome knot
save it for reg h silly it’ll actually be good
craggy dagger
shes not cookinggggg
what-
you’d rather dusk mane psyspam?
modern harbor
nono it'll be fun
craggy dagger
it’s 5am it’s fine
modern harbor
why'd ur link take me to "your phone has been hacked" LOL
chrome knot
LOL
modern harbor
also
modern harbor
wait check team hold on
chrome knot
SHES NOT COOKING
chrome knot
eruption
heat wave
weather ball
earth power
modern harbor
sure
chrome knot
raging bolt torkoal works in reg F idk if it works reg G
modern harbor
i was thinking maybe that or sludge bomb for tha fairies
chrome knot
no u dingus
youll do more with stab in sun neutral than you would no stab no weather boost
modern harbor
raging bolt torkoal works in reg F idk if it works reg G
idc im unbothered im looking the other way im riding my own wave im in my own world
modern harbor
youll do more with stab in sun neutral than you would no stab no weather boost
o tru
chrome knot
idk why this a common trend like
modern harbor
b-but what ab the fairy water 🥺
chrome knot
fairy type is so easy to hit for neutral and be fine why do we always have to try n hit it with some garbage
modern harbor
its true
chrome knot
b-but what ab the fairy water 🥺
eruption does 60% to incin and i know a water type isnt doing anything back🥺
chrome knot
welcome to 3 different modifiers
modern harbor
i think i will replace cc with helping hand on h lilligant
chrome knot
no you wont
modern harbor
bc then if i end up setting tr but still bring it i can help tork
i guess thats a bad spot to be in in the first place
chrome knot
or just after u trick room then hard swap + follow me redo ur board state
or if you have it in yr hand just after you eruption lmao
modern harbor
also