#competitive_discussion
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tf is fairy blast for
dragons
https://pokepast.es/8cf446cc3e1166ba
Does this Badger Set work
I have question can clear amulet block snarl sp attack drop ?
yeah
like who
Ah so i wonder with some people using covert cloak on their caly s for that exact purpose is it good idea to use clear amulet instead ?
Avoid Secondary effects
Especially after Tera with how Vulnerable to Fake Out
smaug
But what if my caly just have tera ghost
then it still blocks stat Drops
Yeah but clear amulet do the job better right
covert cloak has the added benefit (even if tera ghost) of avoiding stuff like flinches
not really
ClearAm is to try and stop Parting Shot pivots
Cause that's the stat drop that CoCloak doesn;t stop
If you're Tera Ghost i'd just go Specs tbh
or Sash but eh
go sitrus
Yeah i'm not really good at using spec especially when wide guard is quite common i guess i will consider sash then
You really want e speed on harc
is head smash on harc fine
i wasnt gettint as much value with intimidate i dont think
if you’re not getting value w/ intimidate then you’re probably not using it correctly
eat
Guys Rotom-W or Regenerator Toxapex?
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2176686575 absolute BS the game
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Rotom 100%
why are u yawning the mon you want to stay in then why are u wide guarding when its 90% chance going to switch out
didnt want the eq chip, i forgot rillaboom so i had no way of regen
he is switching .
never thought that they were gonna do that tbh

excadrill options are:
attack (die or sleep to die next turn/ be useless rest of game)
switch out & prevent sleep and readjust boardstate
i wonder which one seems favourable
yes i know i piloted bad there
Whimsicott be like:I’m fast as fuck but at what cost
Choice band meow scarasa does a lot of damage 😔
i mean Its Choice Band
What do you expect
just Knock Off or Sucker Punch kek
it also had an intim drop
they predicted the tera into water so they flower tricked but I tera dragoned
Wait flower trick is always a crit intim didn’t matter
I don’t really run Play Rough on Meow so i just go for Sash or Lorb with Flower Trick,Sucker/Knock Off,Protect and Triple Axel
yeah its basically Wicked Blow
But Grass type
no uturn is crazy
idk why it does not click for me
Maybe i just valued Protect too much(I did run Uturn before
i run band so no need for protection
Yea u turn on it is great
I use Sash or Lorb lmao
but Lorb is still experimental phase
max speed rilla🫠
@keanufps do you have the michael zhang zam ttar paste i can use after worlds for last reg g local :3
@balmy glen
its already public technically if u use michael K's spreads
oh lit
actually not lit
thats a diff ver no? unless mdb covered the ttar ver asw
or did it always have ttar im gaslighting myself rn
theres a % chance lexibuzz player is at local & i know they struggle vs that variant
https://pokepast.es/ed910324b3438c60
What do u guys think of this, been enjoying it on the ladder. Just need to become a better pilot lol. Anything major u guys would suggest changing?
One thing i might change, is put sunny day on the crow, over taunt as i wasnt using it much. to help play against rain teams
stinky
u not a fan of roar. I just liked the fact it was working thru protect and could help shut down set ups
on something that fragile-?
well usally it would get rid of the thing threatening it, and move before.
go take a shower.

go. you stink so bad
The emote literally has stink waves coming off of it 
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Lol Gholdengo prevented the trick room
STOP LOL
the fact that its Silver Wolf Emoji makes it even more funnier
Would be better if was Yunli
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HGoodra is so tanky
Dont you just love it when your pokemon misses at a crucial time and makes you lose 😦
cries in origin pulse missing
okay
oh god I just realized I forgot to ev train something
wait no wth then how did lando-t outspeed
scarf mon
I guess thats the likely answer but scarf sandsear storm is bold
I had overqwill w/ swift swim active too hm
This anger point team is really funny
well it cant miss so
Emma guess what
This guy running fakeout and then alternating wide guard
chicken butt
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2176824721
on turn 1, does anyone know why my sandstorm got placed down BEFORE the pelipper's rain?
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No
i figured we'd both start with it but i wasnt sure how one would take priority ver the other
This

How much spe does your pelipper have
must’ve been a very fast ttar
Ngl I read "how much ape does your Pelipper have" and was very confused
my pelipper has 252+ ape
i was the ttar
Gotta run some ape for Pelipper now
and my ttar was faster
Oh yeah are you jolly 252 spe
so slower pokemon get their weather effect
that outspeeds max spe modest peli
He's Jolly 252 ape
Yea makes sense ape is the best
124 speed adamant
actualy
but does it work like the slower pokemon gets their weather effect to last on turn 1?
Must’ve been no spe investment peli
Yea so abilities trigger in the order of speed
So since ttar is faster it’s sand ability with go off
But then peli ability with go off next overwriting the sand
does it matter if i chose ttar second vs first
in the pick order at the beginning of the battle
like if they chose pelipper as their first and i chose ttar as my second i would go second
or do the first two go out at the same time and then speed decides it
ok
If you kept ttar in the back you could switch it in after and get sand
i would've if i knew that ttar was gonna be faster
and that thats how the interactino works
is it common for people ot have really slow pelippers?
Not really most run max spe
ok
people really like decidueye huh
Decidueye mid
sick I was trying to look for this team too
i mean…. Its Pre evo is one of the more popular Starters and Decidueye have something that works
Interesting team
It has a broken move
And scrappy
I feel that’s the only reason people are running it
ok thanks
Yea it has really good coverage into a lot of things
So does Flamigo tho
Both flying and fighting coverage are lacking in the meta, I think flamigo has potential
Flying/Fighting
Scrappy, Tangled Feet, Costar (Hidden)
82/115/74/75/64/90
500
Oh flamigo gets scrappy?
Yep
Bug, Flying, Poison
Dragon, Electric, Fairy, Fighting, Fire, Ghost, Grass, Psychic, Stellar
Dark, Ground, Ice, Normal, Rock, Steel, Water
Grass/Fighting
Overgrow, Scrappy (Hidden)
88/112/80/95/95/60
530
Decidueye
Flamigo is scrappy
Dragon, Electric, Fairy, Fire, Flying, Ghost, Ground, Poison, Psychic, Stellar, Water
Bug, Dark, Fighting, Grass, Ice, Normal, Rock, Steel
Better attack too
Does Haze get rid of the user's stuff too?
technically it can because gholdengo isnt being the one targeted. haze, when used, targets the user and everything else is affected afterwards
put this in the wrong chat by mistake oops
I have a lapras w the Quiet Nature (playing X so I can't change the nature), I should be focused on his Sp.ATK and Speed right?
Lapras is pretty slow, so idk the is super necessary
I want to use him for a casual playthrough
Just a spa increasing nature would be fine
Water/Ice
Water Absorb, Shell Armor, Hydration (Hidden)
130/85/80/85/95/60
535
split it between hp and def?
i guess
how did people run glimmora?
looking back at pikalytics reg E and C, im seeing a ton of AV sets
yeah it was mostly AV before it got access to meteor beam
sash with power gem/sludge bomb/coverage move also was around
but I think I personally saw more mortal spin AV glimmora
i think glimmora was what i needed, looking at my team before there were 3 typings i legit just couldnt hot well, ghost, fairy, poison
maybe incin > harc here? i gain a dark type mon giving me immunity to psyspam, acces to more fake out for kommo-o, and many more tools
and with the addition of glimmora, i have an new offensive option with a wider range of targets
and icy wind swampert has been a massive help
do you use liquidation on swampert?
Goggles and Tera grass on swampert seems kinda counter intuitive
Electric
Fire, Poison, Rock, Steel
Bug, Dark, Dragon, Fairy, Fighting, Flying, Ghost, Ground, Ice, Normal, Psychic, Stellar, Water
Grass
Ground-types take no damage from Sandstorm.
Yep, with all that rain going around I sometimes get a nice boost too
why support swampert bruh just use gastrodon
I now realise that
Yea what I was gonna say
Body Slam, Bulldoze, Counter, Dig, Dive, Earthquake, Facade, Fissure, Frustration, Giga Impact, Headbutt, Liquidation, Natural Gift, Return, Rock Blast, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Tomb, Sand Tomb, Secret Power, Skitter Smack, Stomping Tantrum, Stone Edge, Strength, Take Down, Waterfall
Ancient Power, Blizzard, Brine, Chilling Water, Clear Smog, Earth Power, Hidden Power, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Infestation, Mirror Coat, Mud Bomb, Mud Shot, Mud-Slap, Muddy Water, Round, Scald, Sludge, Sludge Bomb, Sludge Wave, Snore, Spit Up, Surf, Tera Blast, Trump Card, Water Gun, Water Pulse, Weather Ball, Whirlpool
Acid Armor, Amnesia, Attract, Block, Captivate, Confide, Curse, Double Team, Endure, Flash, Hail, Harden, Helping Hand, Memento, Mist, Mud Sport, Pain Split, Protect, Rain Dance, Recover, Rest, Sandstorm, Sleep Talk, Snowscape, Spikes, Stealth Rock, Stockpile, String Shot, Substitute, Swagger, Swallow, Toxic, Yawn
A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Gastrodon.
Wide guard helps
Gastro doesn’t get wide guard and really that’s the only thing
ah oki, couldve also gone for flip turn to get into a better position once you yawn'd a pokémon (slow swap on their switch) but if liquidation is useful dats good 
Water/Ground
Sticky Hold, Storm Drain, Sand Force (Hidden)
111/83/68/92/82/39
475
Water/Ground
Torrent, Damp (Hidden)
100/110/90/85/90/60
535
Swampert-Mega
Also a tad more bulky? And a tad more damage? Could be wrong haven’t done the calcs
Whos that handsome man at 12th???
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The most important reason though
Favorites
Was cause I wanted to use swampert
Trying to make them work, yk
Mhm
Low power format, so, everyone wants to use favorites
Might as well grab the opportunity
Honestly decidueye sounds like a blast to use
I’ve thought about it, and lost to one :/
Go for it
I ain’t touching one lol
I’ve also beat all of the ones I’ve seen so far
Honestly an AV set doesn’t sound too far fetched
Grass/Fighting
Overgrow, Scrappy (Hidden)
88/112/80/95/95/60
530
Decidueye
I’m disappointed I didn’t think of that
https://pokepast.es/ad403bb6cd37869e thoughts?
careful is +SpDef right-
Yes
I feel like you’d want speed to encore lock stuff no?
Out of the follow me mons, why the mouse, for which situations?
Fast friend guard is nice
No speed on maus?
Also you probably want protect to keep friend guard active longer
Tbh I don’t have a spread just experimenting with spe and bulk to see what I like
Mk
Any MUs that are a problem
No drought is it possible to defeat kyogre teams?
Wide guard
Special attacker
Outspeed + nuke
Usually with tornado so I need someone tailwind
Uh arch and mausape but maus is my answer
Yeah snatching that beat up is nice
ye
Super fang is really nice into a lot of thing and friend guard
Taunt and encore are also quite nice
I should prob put some spe into it
Is protect not valuable for a friend guard mon?
POV worlds players
As drago said
Pick 1
beefy maus doesn’t need speed
I don’t really need protect on it I feel
Yes you do
I feel like reg H is a babysitting method for people who arent attending, idk I just get that feeling
plus it’s already fast enough to do stuff-
but i’d protect over encore if you’re running beefy maus
It’s 131 without speed
Good enuff
that’s still pretty fast-
I guess
Anything faster than timid peli is good enough imo
it’s not-
the fastest-
but 131 is pretty fast for something that can super fang
Could matter for harc (if not banded) and ddance mons (Bax)
Dondozo for encore locks
isn’t max speed dozo-
Good enough != good
Result: 190.000000
Wdyt I’m referring to for dozo
oh
Nah
i just remember dozo running more bulk than speed
Not to me, good enough isn’t enough
Good enough isn’t good enough for you 
Exactly
Also surprisingly I’ve not seen very much dondozo
That’s what I’d put it as
Maybe archaludon spooked the players
Good
haven’t seen much palafin either tbh
I hate dondozo
Good
Same, I expected much more palance
I hate palafin
all i’m seeing is sunroom via lilligant unnova-
i like palafin’s hero design as wel as base-
but like-
vgc wise meh
But swampert is in the format rn 
Is trash and always will be
with that 4x weakness to grassy glide hell yeah

We love that forced tera/swap
fuck yeah!
we love losing momentum because you have to switch to a priority move 
Kek
Personally from what I’m seeing, peli is uncontested, haven’t seen prim in ages
That’s gotta be cap wut
Meanwhile I’m letting a huge sigh went archaludon and peli on my screen
How have you not seen Primarina
i’ll be honest-
swampert has potential but like it falls short cause of grassy glide
I feel like it’s fairly common
Not as much as peli, last time I saw it was a while ago today
Ok, peli’s a support
there’s obv more peli because of rain support
Still water type
Prima’s offensive
True
I was more talking in an offensive matter
Like for a core?
Overall I also still think Primarina is better over peli due to it being a little more placable in teams
no-
like how many offensive water types are in the game
I’m cloak and most of the time I am follow me
built to be a “sweeper”
There aren’t cuz we don’t have shifu lol
Idk, the support peli carries whilst being able to deal massive damage isn’t a joke
Primarina is a bulky set up or a bulky sweeper
Weather ball neutral isn’t fun
Weather ball also gets shut down by any weather control
i’ve seen some milotic and empoleon
You can argue there’s not much other weathers as relevant, not that big of a problem
on paper, milotic is a good counter meta pick :0
More sun, sand is relevant
I said “as” relevant
Rain is dominating
Kilowattrel
Then it’s not not that big of a problem
that’s why you run cloud nine altaria 
for water types-
but yeah kikowattrel is also a good pick
If other weathers were straight up irrelevant then sure
Speaking of encore I did a match earlier starting with clayrex ghost and whimscot my opponent used trick room. I usually start with indeedee female imprison but that Pokémon is uncommon to me that I didn’t even know it has trick room so switch in my indeedee then I realized why don’t I just encore so I did but I forgot to get back to indeedee so I used a prankster move while putting the terrain
Isn’t rilla meta
Saying that sun and rain mu isn’t relevant for rain is kinda dumb
Water
Marvel Scale, Competitive, Cute Charm (Hidden)
95/60/79/100/125/81
540
I didn’t say that
Primarina is meta and rillaboom nukes it, so what
coil setup or flame orb marvel scale
Prim is meta?
Coilnosis 💀
“Not that big of a problem”
though the latter is less used

i hate that with a burning passion
Prims not as meta as other stuff but it’s something you should be considering in the builder
“Not as relevant, so you can argue it’s not that big of a problem”
Dragon/Flying
Natural Cure, Cloud Nine (Hidden)
75/70/90/70/105/80
490
Altaria-Mega
Good thing dengo shuts it down 👍
You win this argument is going nowhere
huh-
that’s a lot bulkier than i thought-


Coilnosis?
I hope you lose every game with swampert
base 70 on both attacks though-
eughhh
Am too skilled
coil hypnosis
Ew
Raises the user's Attack, Defense, and accuracy by 1 stage.
Poison
Status
0
—
20 (32)
Bypasses Protect-like moves.
Does not make contact.
Affected by Snatch.
Altaria learns that?
Does hypnosis become guaranteed after 1
Milotic
Sure you are
Oh milotic my bad
I’ve had my fare share of practice over these few days
(literally dropped to 1000)
oh i know an idea for altaria in face of archaludon-
fake out archa and alluring voice it 
Nuh uh
aight guys I think we should stop 😭
Has a 100% chance to confuse the target if it had a stat stage raised this turn.
Fairy
Special
80
100
10 (16)
Copied by Mirror Move.
Bypasses substitute.
Does not make contact.
Does not affect Soundproof.
Lmao
does confusion even that bad tho on it
stamina +1
then alluring voice confusion
Ofc I see primarina now
ehhh-
it’s ass but it can help dodge some important stuff
Told ya
smth like this i guess
Altaria @ Leftovers
Ability: Cloud Nine
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
IVs: 0 Atk
- Haze
- Tailwind
- Moonblast
- Protect
What about perish song
cloud nine on paper is good
I think peli has more usage because of Archaludon
I saw this but didn’t wanna admit I was wrong
yup
Idt it’s because it itself is super strong
rain support for archaludon to rain electric balls from the sky
It’s good, I think it’s one of the best mons in the format for sure
Ofc not
Archaludon carries
I still think Primarina is the better water type, overall

though imo
I think peli provides more
no miss stab hurricane is nice
It’s just my opinion, I think in an unbiased situation peli is better
Supportively
Again, it’s the better support Mon
as someone who’s unbiased towards both of them-
i prefer prim-
fairy coverage is really nice this reg because not many hard hitting fairies that have been explored atm
It is quite nice
I don’t use peli ??? 😭
But overall
me stuck in 1000-
scotty over in 1400 
I’m talking last reg with kyogre jug
with that team too
Overall I still think it’s Prima
anyways now’s not the time to be salty
Do you use prim
:3
YEA
Oh well that makes sense
it’s my main Mon im playing lol
I got 5th with it in regulation F
Ima be real I totally got lucky on the climb I should still be 1200s
Peli is not just a support Pokémon
I don’t deserve it at all 
I’m gonna defend it I think it’s a great Mon
the talonflame stonks is back
Tbh I look at it as an offensive Mon
Prima’s the better Mon offensively
Especially due to the lack of fairy types rn
okay can we drop this now-
I think they’re both good offensively
What team are they fighting for a spot on?
Yea 🙏
it’s getting really old hearing prim is better than peli-
both do different things so we can’t even compare them properly
Sure
Cus each is better in diff situations
yeah
especially both do very different stuff lol
anyways i need help with altaria
Nah
Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Astonish, Body Slam, Brave Bird, Breaking Swipe, Bulldoze, Double-Edge, Dragon Claw, Dragon Rush, Dual Wingbeat, Earthquake, Endeavor, Facade, False Swipe, Fly, Frustration, Fury Attack, Giga Impact, Iron Tail, Natural Gift, Outrage, Peck, Play Rough, Pluck, Pursuit, Rage, Return, Rock Smash, Secret Power, Sky Attack, Steel Wing, Take Down, Thief, Trailblaze
Air Cutter, Alluring Voice, Dazzling Gleam, Disarming Voice, Draco Meteor, Dragon Breath, Dragon Pulse, Dream Eater, Echoed Voice, Fire Blast, Fire Spin, Flamethrower, Heat Wave, Hidden Power, Hurricane, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Ice Beam, Incinerate, Moonblast, Mud-Slap, Ominous Wind, Round, Snore, Solar Beam, Swift, Tera Blast, Twister, Uproar, Weather Ball
Agility, Attract, Captivate, Confide, Cotton Guard, Defog, Double Team, Dragon Cheer, Dragon Dance, Endure, Feather Dance, Growl, Haze, Heal Bell, Helping Hand, Hone Claws, Mimic, Mirror Move, Mist, Perish Song, Power Swap, Protect, Psych Up, Rain Dance, Refresh, Rest, Roar, Roost, Safeguard, Sing, Sleep Talk, Snowscape, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Tailwind, Toxic, Will-O-Wisp, Wonder Room
A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Altaria.
Tailwind Setter?
Dragon/Flying
Natural Cure, Cloud Nine (Hidden)
75/70/90/70/105/80
490
Altaria-Mega
that’s what i’m thinking
Omg those stats-
it’s not good
Cloud Nine is nice tho
Breaking swipe tw wisp hh?
While this Pokemon is active, the effects of weather conditions are disabled.
basically Air Lock
Oh sorta like delta stream?
it’s beefy special defense that’s it-
and to think that this thing terrorized gen 5 (or was it 3) with ddance brave bird
Ah air lock is closer yeah
Delta stream is mega ray ability right
a Dragon that is also a birb
i was thinking tera fairy moonblast
all dragons are birds
Yes
but tailwind support yes-
Does substitute increase apes rage fist
pls no 🙏
That would tickle me irl 😭

support Altaria is better if There is no Mega lol
haze tailwind um
bswipe protect?
tera fairy to avoid draco meteors
Yeah fair
do i even need to worry about haze
EVs?
and can i run wisp instead?
do you have anything to deal with Dozo or Set Up Mons
Eh its alright,Amoonguss can tank Dozo
that Shroom is sus
just lost to shed tail ape, what am i missing
i wonder if effect spore sitrus might work-
to fuck with contact and fake out some more 
oh-
if you hit the sub yes i should boost rage fist-
but if you sub and cut your own hp it doesn’t count i think
die
i havent touched shields
just kidding,Try Double or TR
lmao ima ignore it
dont make me think about it
iirc?
oh-
no i’ve faced it before
Sorry for getting things heated
its fine
I’m defensive about my picks lol
was it um-
white herb shell smash?
we all do
no that’s fine-
if anything it shows that you know your sets and teams really well
easy W
im le exception lol
legit just left it alone
I’m also getting options to explore mons I used to use but can’t anymore cuz restricted format
Which are prim and kommo-o (scales)
And a9 although snows in a rough spot rn
Raises the user's Attack, Defense, Special Attack, Special Defense, and Speed by 1 stage, but it becomes prevented from switching out. The user can still switch out if it uses Baton Pass, Flip Turn, Parting Shot, Teleport, U-turn, or Volt Switch. If the user leaves the field using Baton Pass, the replacement will remain trapped. Fails if the user has already been prevented from switching by this effect.
Fighting
Status
0
—
5 (8)
Bypasses Protect-like moves.
Does not make contact.
Affected by Snatch.
I’m just trying Gren and Zoroark but Idk still have to discover more
You found a falinks lol
why did my yawn fail
heck we literally have a whole discussion about it in the server
Fighting
Battle Armor, Defiant (Hidden)
65/100/100/70/60/75
470
its grasyy
E terrain fucking died
scales kommo?
Clangorous scales/soul
BP
i mean that’s its intended purpose 
Not body press
rather than idbp
i saw a Few of them lol
What are you guys cooking with
ill Show the team
https://pokepast.es/8cf446cc3e1166ba
Typhlosion Volcarona Manual Sun
hmm, the combo of kommo-o and glim on the same team isnt working for me
maybe i need them to be able to counter each others weaknesses
Or maybe
honestly my team is just like
Can you safely let Typhlosion spam Eruption
what do we think
rilla isnt as much of a problem rn, could drop fire core for a flying type
Tera dark deci?
psyspam?
avoids psyspam under trick room since AV cannot take that
STAB knock
this Team feels VERY TR-
takes a um
hurricane i think-
i need to do proper calcs and readjust EVs atm-
it’s kinda just placeholders for now
You have 2 lefties
wait a second
yup-
saw that 
can kommo-o run in tr?
Also no ursaluna on a tr esc team is very weird
not with Scales
idbp
Dragon/Fighting
Bulletproof, Soundproof, Overcoat (Hidden)
75/110/125/100/105/85
600
Kommo-o-Totem
Ehhhh
ehhhhhhh not really
i mean palkia can
mostly a tailwind set
Water/Dragon
Pressure, Telepathy (Hidden)
90/120/100/150/120/100
680
Palkia-Origin
yes but no
In a restricted format OTOT
its a Support TR
Water/Dragon
Pressure, Telepathy (Hidden)
90/100/100/150/120/120
680
Palkia
when everything is much faster
in a restricted format-
everything is-
10000 times faster
yeah i mean for an opton as speed control
Kommo-o is gonna be the main damage Dealer
cause tw hasnt worked for me in the past
POV:Speed Median becomes 120-130
ehhh yeah it’s very-
trick roomy which isn’t what i wanted
just wait for gen 10 power creep
lemme show thw team
yes, im using electabuzz for both archa and maus MU
FLASH CANNON?
W h a t
Iron head man
Just use Iron Head For Flinch chances
Flash cannon is for clangorous soul sets
oh
Most run iron head
ive missed so many KOs and chip cause of flash cannon lol
but i stayed true to the set i stole
Well
oh boi.
im changing it
Kommo-o IDBP sets aren’t known for big damage beyond body press
but that team seems very-
similar to this one 
see this is why i never played IDBP passing 1200
It’s hard to use
never seen this b4
moment
i passed once-
with zamazenta 
That’s not the same thing lol
and yes thats was me when i tried Zamazenta
its cause i only got one good damaging move which is fighting type, and many weaknesses
lmao maybe ill just use something easier
honestly debating on whether i need static or if i should run vital spirit follow me
basically just run Magmar set but Fire Stab turns to Electric
but a 6th hm
not the best for a meta where rain teams are around every corner i wouldnt say
Ursaluna feels kinda free
attacker maus 
blood moon or regular-

Probably Bloodmoon
anything for swampert
I was not talking to you lol
i know, im looking at the chats and taking ideas
If you wanna use swampert so bad, idk man
A fighting or fire coverage?
It’s not a good Mon lol
this isn’t the first time we saw someone runs it-
if smth like this then?
ive seen gloom reach high ladder, creating this team im also hoping to get a deeper understanding on the fundamentals of team building, im making it hard on purpose
i can run fairy blast harc now
I’m curious on the EVs for Archaludon
Ok but that builder is better than you are
I run 180 SpD lol
🤝
why does nashville tennessee have their own song on the worlds 2024 album 
exactly, its why im challenging myself to get better at building
I think I read that song was for 2018 worlds in Nashville
but I would love a nashville worlds again
Like, I don’t mean to be rude but he’s got more skill than you do
ohhh-
that would make more sense
it was you
Tree I’m doing something with Another Ghost Type(Not Ape)
huh
lmao thats where i got my set, was from u tree
Challenging yourself to run a bad Mon is not how you get better at teambuilding
which one?
cool
typhlosion hisui 
Learn the Basics and Meta to see the Niche it fullfills
its also kind of my playstyle, i like to use at least odd mon/set
well…

also i think it defintely helps
Lol
yeah it’s not the best way-
there’s much easier
You need a deeper understanding of how to teambuild first
but if you enjoy playing games with your fav pokemon then go ahead
heck i only use Niche in Mid Reg G lol
hisuan typhloshion kinda meh tbh but maybe it has merit 
Yes Nova’s right about that
spent months on that part, now im going into the identifying uses for mons part
But if you’re genuinely trying to get it to work OTOT I think you should try to get a deeper understanding of the teambuilding schtick Yk?
its alright,I think Manual Hyper Offensive Sun is Strong at least in Low Ladder,but i can switch Volca with a Support or a Secondary Attacker
I’ve spent a year on it I’m still genuinely struggling to get a great consistent team going
is schtick a yt channel
No it’s just, nvm
send the notes kek
I’m bored 😭
any ideas how to improve teambuilding?
Play the meta
Dk what to use
Watch videos, read team analysis
reading huh
Just try something you feel like it had Potential that does not screw up
i can speak from experience actually 
as someone who just grabbed pokemon they liked and played with them over and over again, you’ll understand the “meta” better with the reps of game while also learning the in and out of the pokemon pure playing
But there’s a much easier way-
you kinda have to know your way around pokemon and how they work. like for meta pokemon, what do they have that make them meta? etc-
Play the meta to understand how a team is built
And what those pokemon do for eachother

experience informs ur decisions in rl, its the same for vgc
mhm
im quite confident in this factor
u cant build to counter the meta so to speak if u dont know or understand the meta and why things are good
The immense struggle you’re having with swampert tells me otherwise
okay so then in reg H, what’s currently “meta”?
and could you build a “meta” team?
i mean you literally struggle with Building Rayquaza-
bro its swampert, it doesnt have much going for it
then y r u forcing it
like throw out your favourite pokemon and niches for a second and just build a meta team for reg H
Then why are you playing with it lol
Don’t force it dude, sometimes a Mon just sucks
was an attempt to get better, + a fave
if you wanna play your Favourite you have to At least know how it plays
i think u think ur farther along then u are. ur equating time to actual improvement and thats not necessarily always the case
Might as well be a message for you too nova 
like My Fav is Greninja and i can try Fast Taunt Support or Hyper Offensive Specs
you gotta know everything about your favourite pokemon-
what does it bring to the table?
does it fit well into a team, etc etc
exactly
might as well just use a different mon for now i guess. Swampert is too high of a reach for me rn
i’ve beat up cir and csr with an inteleon i think im fine
yo courtchange Cindy meta?
Trust me I understand you wanna make the guy you like work but sometimes it’s dependent on how the meta is, we are in Wild West territory rn so getting very niche stuff to work is not good atm lol
also being a good teambuilder is not common and often requires immense collaboration to achieve a desired result (irl top cut and such). a lot of great players arent good teambuilders
Hydrapple took me a month cuz I had to wait for the meta to settle
haven’t tried court change but i have done um
banded cindy
i mean i beat up CIR with Iron Crown(Which is fucking Hilarious)
So yeah its possible just need right timing and how does it benefit to the team
nods
i think with the change from a not so diverse meta to incredibly diverse is having an effect on me lol
It takes a long long time to get really good at it
i suck at teambuilding
i just
like using niches and it works-
Well you’re having fun it’s whatever lol
piloting?
what moves
oh yeah i suck at piloting too lmao
ehhh
not really piloting
I’m still using Sample Sets and sometimes do Custom EVs for Vibes based Approach
Cinderace @ Choice Band
Ability: Libero
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 164 HP / 76 Atk / 52 Def / 68 SpD / 148 Spe
Adamant Nature
- U-turn
- Low Kick
- Pyro Ball
- Tera Blast
i think you should at least know game plans and how to adapt
Thats how i do
also all the calcs i did cause this was reg F
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MUVti16QIyfRjVFou8SH0TkKovtlnJvQyH1kEIYBexs/edit?usp=sharing
Team Overview: A team composed of a main sweeper of cinderace with some others in case cindy isnt the best play.Cinderace: one of the most fragile mons i’ve ever worked with a below average stat of 75 in both defenses and a 80 base hp stat. Making this pokemon be able to take hits from super-eff...
wait is it the same set that we do in the niche pokemon notes
relying on surprise solely is not gna get u far
mhm
bro i had grassy seed kommo-o and kept forgetting to use it
it still fits really well into reg H
based 
you'd be surprised
it did a lot of shit you wouldnt expect it to do
not even surpire, just odd. People werent prepped for lunala+chi-yu rush or AV groudon
though im thinking maybe tera something else instead of fairy
eh if its somethinf weird that has somewhat legit EVs
Then probably is Nova who made them lol
ik its you but still
well i guess im gonna
test that altaria team in a showdown room
ever since the ray team ive been struggling to teambuild. Im honestly a bit worried about my progress
Have fun hun
the weirdest Mon i built Before is Brute Bonnet lol
Ooo? I forgot they existed I do love em
yea but the tunnel vision struggle of trying to force stuff for the sake of it is the problem here. that in and of itself is not good teambuilding
was that darn test period that made me take a break
i just make it Offensive,Nothing Special
It work?
you gotta recognize when things just dont work
I’m getting pizza today
eh kinda,I suck at pilotijg it cuz I thought it was amogus
yeah im realising that now, just hard to accept a fall off🫠
What Pizza.
i guess, something u gotta just work on
😭 fair muscle memory would interfere
cybertron is good for vgc right, or is he not doing reg H
yeah thats why i kinda don’t Built Niches until now with Iron Crown and Iron Boulder
in Reg G
Gotcha
Millie’s
Loaf Wabbit
where is tofus reg H hatenna blog when you need it
Topping i mean lol
Nichest thing I’ve used that I can say worked decently is just gallade I haven’t explored much
This reg
fair
Umm I don’t remember which ones actually
It’s still working for me 
like pepperoni and stuff
Tho Iron Crown and Iron Boulder in Reg G is kinda working
I just like the future Legendary Paradox Mons besides Iron Leaves
lol
good i dont want Italians to barge in
It one taps ursa and if they don’t commit to fully being a TR mon then I beat them in TR
nope i fucked up hard
i see
So sorta 50/50 to whether I put speed in or out of TR vs ursa
moment
horoark team incoming
And it’s hard to learn before I send it in because I only have gambit with a similar speed to gallade and gambit vs gallade might as well just sac to test speed 
Gambit vs ursa* sorry brain
heck the only teams that passed the drawing Board for me in Reg G is Terapagos(Chi-Yu) ,Kyogre(Wo-Chien Version) and Miraidon(Iron Crown)
All got 60%-75%
brain is not braining
I’m just always awful with names you’ll find this quick 
I mix up and forget super often
cloud nine feels really good into um
peli archa leads
normal or blursa
Ground/Normal
Guts, Bulletproof, Unnerve (Hidden)
130/140/105/45/80/50
550
Ursaluna-Bloodmoon
any weather honestly
Ground/Normal
Mind's Eye
113/70/120/135/65/52
555
Ursaluna
Bro how it get a new form the very next gen it was released
I love both ursas designs so fucking much
I like normal ursa more
Both are sick tho
Genuinely both are designed well it comes down to design taste
Duraladon:Gets an Evo
Applin:Gets another Evo Line
Yea but fuck them
am i the only one who love Archaludon
yea no go home
Stapler :3
arch lovers not welcome
Stapler Bridge fr
nah screw that when you use Calyrex 
What are some good partners for horoark
Lol it does look like a stapler remover now that i look at it XD
that’s crazy that the stats don’t lie
lmao
yeah
and the design and Colours
Omg i love it
:3
I have a few shiny dura in swsh I meant to bring over for arch
Same thing with applin to make a 6 team of dripplin 
i have a few shiny Archaludons lol
Anyone? Wanna use ursa on this team but don’t wanna go full tr
paldea Tauros?
Idk
I used this
Yea but won’t the speed and turn order give it a way
Was thinking of using normal ursa
Has a 100% chance to lower the target's Attack by 1 stage.
Ghost
Special
75
100
10 (16)
Copied by Mirror Move.
Does not make contact.
moment
Typhlosion-Hisui @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Blaze
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Eruption
- Solar Beam
- Shadow Ball
- Heat Wave
Insert Badger meme
nope i am not using Infernal Paradae
kill me pls
Might as well kill me as well
take a Break
i might just only Teambuild and not play games cuz holy hell the sets are unpredictable as heck
i might as well stop playing and play Splatoon(2)
i lost 6 games with hamurott today
all to stupid stuff like
bullet seed electrode + grass ape
apple acid idbp appletun
flame orb tera fire guts conkeldurr
no retreat x2 body press falinks
blizzard ice feraligator

Early Meta Bullshit
i kinda hate that-
Jesus
Lets just say Early meta is just the most Chaotic Bullshit,its not that Noticiable in Reg G cuz Everything is mostly Standardised
some of these ive atleast seen or can somewhat understand. blizzard tera ice ferilgatr is just a different level of jank lmfao
lets just say Showdown Freaks are coming back

i feel like the Cart Freaks are just showdown freaks
sheer force
sheer farce
Peer Force
Pee Farce
Me with Tera Ice Triple Axel Meowscarada:
ill be seeing everyone in a couple days
prolly just spend that time tuning my hamurott team and idbp kommo team ig
fair
or maybe ill make scotty an actual team
Hey :(
SCOTTY JOIN US 
instead of whatever BS that was that he made
Yeah :)
So you did make something why not the current thing 😭
anyways yeah
if theres an argument going on then ping me :0
else um
ig ill just lurk and float
float on
The original gothitelle was a 4 am shit show of not knowing how stuff worked and just running with it
I won more game than you would ever expect
the best kind of shitshow
Nova be like
F l o a t
I can show if you’d like lmao
now I want a rootbeer float, fuck
heck my Miraidon Crown Team is made in 4-5 am lol
It’s all based on shadow tag for pala. Not knowing switch moves still worked
I'm good but thanks

Answer :T
littlefly
answer what 
.
And like so many other things you don’t see in dms cus you’re blind 
I mean what
uhhhh-
it’s a very-
one trick team
lol
if you were in open team sheets then you’d prolly lose all element of surprise
It’s mainly ghol gallade putting work in kill wise
let me remind you that you were running focus blast gothitelle
i mean a ladder warrior is a ladder warrior but some are exclusively one over the other
NOT TALKING THAT TEAM
Shushhhhhh
fair point
what else did you have…
AV pult
yes coming off the amazing base 79 sp atk stat
again, sheer farce
Oh and no dragon darts on this thing outrage instead cus I forgot it hits random target
Me when Early Meta Teams looks like shi-
dragon tail dragapult
No pls no
dazzling gleam dengo and it’s not even specs
That was cus I thought palafin could revert to zero form
where’s your protect my good sir
Next question
uh, it dont
As I said this team was made with multiple fundamental misunderstandings
my current team looks beautiful tbh
as long as u learned w/e
good for you i am still testimg Hisuian Typhlosion
you shoulddddd stop
what the fuck
support blaziken go brr
at least support Blaziken should have an Attacking move-
i will eat that team
nom
i doubt this bean
this bean be like
Imma nom the team

stinkity bean :3
But sure nova I’m down to make another team than the gallade one just lmk when you wanna
say aaahh.
why do both emma and delphi stink?
Both need to shower ig
ah
i just did
thank you very much
interstellarlatte has given 1 Gen Rep to scottyboi7422
No thoughts
Just Mega Pelipper
I’m going to shower rn so cya 
oops gen rep
that mega evolution symbol looks fucked up

Reported for Rep farming
Shit that would take me down with you hmm
Ah well worth
lol
Ah yes
GIMME YUNLI BESTIE
am i the only one who wants to skip Yunli lmao
3 mph speed limit, may as well walk

the almighty Numby
YEEEEEEEESSSSS
TIME TO GAMBLE
proceeds to lose 5000 bucks
seriously am i the only one who skips Yunli and have to face 3 BANNERS
Insert Sword of Justice Trio theme
I’m seeing a lot of the judges/commentators/other players putting Zama in 5th or 6th for best restricted
I guess the big 3 Zama players gotta show out

for me its 4th,Sure its hard to use but its very worth it
LET'S GO GAMBLING
AW DANG IT
AW DANG IT
AW DANG IT
I’m using such a meta 6 Zama team at worlds but it’s time to game 
Fuck it we ball
rn my top 5 for me is
CSR,CIR,Miraidon,Zamazenta,Kyogre/Terapagos
i mean,go for it lmao
alright I’m bored
Same
My teams been doing well I just don’t know what to use next
I’m just chilling
maybe just stick with it?
hi bored, I'm telling dad jokes
That’s usually a sign that your on the right path and should improve it lol
😭 I played a ton today and feel good about the team
I wanna try and ladder high with it
Y'all think Serperior will be popular in the upcoming format?
its great for Contrary,But i think Rillaboom is still better
Tho it depends on what your team needs
I think if people aren't gonna be using Rillaboom they'll be using serp and incin
That's true

