competitive_discussion

[torn parrot]

That’s a personal attack

[chrome knot]

TRUE

[torn parrot]

Wait

Emma…bun

I get it now 🐇

A fellow bunny enthusiast

[chrome knot]

i love bunbuns

[lyric dust]

Hello, is there anyone who I may fight on pokémon showdown with a reg H team.

[bold geode]

Rabbits are tweakers

They be tweakin for no fuckin reason

[cyan smelt]

bruh i just want to get to master ball

[nocturne holly]

bro when was the last time you saw a rabbit

Rabbits are chill fr

[spiral ridge]

First rabbit I ever met bit me but they usually chill

[bold geode]

Me and my cousin owned rabbits bro

[nocturne holly]

prove it

[bold geode]

They tweak unless you spend like 24/7 365 just holding their ass

[nocturne holly]

that’s the problem

[chrome knot]

they hop around

be eepy

binky ^.^ and get zoomies

[torn parrot]

I wanna own a rabbit at some point

[bold geode]

We literally had one of em around the yard for months because it chewed a hole in its pen and we couldn't catch it

[torn parrot]

Wow

[lyric dust]

guys I think your in the wrong chat go to social/general_chat

[bold geode]

Lesson: rabbits can eat thru chicken wire

[torn parrot]

We’re competitively chatting right now

[bold geode]

Oh we go off topic at times

[opal trout]

One of my friends girbil did something like that

[whole ibex]

I LOVVVE Benjamin

[chrome knot]

im very competitive about my opinion on bunnies

[lyric dust]

fair enough, I need to try my reg H team but have no one RN so..... dm or something like that

[bold geode]

Did it die 2 seconds after?

[opal trout]

Bunny:
Ability competitive
An Incineroar counter

[opal trout]

Probably

[lyric dust]

Or ability fluffy

[next stump]

why not play on showdown?

[bold geode]

Yeah Showdown is actively best way rn

[lyric dust]

There is no place to use these teams without a power diff

[opal trout]

It had a reg h update not too long ago

[bold geode]

Huh?

[next stump]

Reg H is on showdown

[lyric dust]

Oh nvm

[strange fjord]

we got reg h on ladder basically day 1

which is nice ngl

[opal trout]

Yeah

I thought of a rain team in like 10 seconds lol

It’s a really unimaginative team but it works

[whole ibex]

As a Rabbit main myself, I will say that Rabbits aren't very competitively viable. They're cute but they have the biggest victim complexes in the entire game. A fox can just exist and the rabbit can just die of a heart attack from it. Their heart rates are way too fast even if they're laying down and relaxing. They're also to weak to do damage and too frail to take hits. Rabbits do have high intelligence but overall, Rabbits are poorly designed animals and rank pretty low on many tier lists. They do fair MUCH better in the competitive cuteness format.

[cyan smelt]

i just want to make it to master ball man

[foggy lodge]

Why specifically scarf ape has to run shadow claw over rage fist?

[strange fjord]

rage fist requires you to take hits to do damage, if you run scarf, your initial damage is gonna be low and you're not likely to be a bulky set since you are running scarf

Leftovers bulk up lets you build up rage fist power, scarf does not

[foggy lodge]

Ahhh makes sense, thanks

[cyan smelt]

master ball rank baby

[chrome knot]

bunbuns have literal 0 intelligence

dingus creatures

[cyan smelt]

bunbuns are cute though

wut, the software was closed because an error occurred

oh wonderful that counts as a loss for me

[rustic mountain]

we got pizza and we got pizzaking

[solid frigate]

The Pizza Nation is real

[cyan smelt]

Torrent how's your terapagos team going

[solid frigate]

I haven’t even use my team today cuz i have work

[cyan smelt]

Pain

[bold geode]

Damn no wonder you like em

[chrome knot]

ehehe

[cyan smelt]

Rude

[chrome knot]

im a low intelligence creature for sure

[torn parrot]

I really want a bunny

I heard they poop alot tho

[cyan smelt]

I want a dog but I'd never be able to go overseas again

[torn parrot]

Hey

If you play a bunny monotype in reg G you have a moral pass to play calyrex

https://tenor.com/view/anya-gif-25682853

[chrome knot]

they super do yeah

i want mega lopunny back :<

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 428: Lopunny-Mega

Types

Normal/Fighting

Abilities

Scrappy

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

65/136/94/54/96/135

Total

580

Base Species

Lopunny

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[chrome knot]

holy crap shes fast

[torn parrot]

Damn there’s not even enough bunnies in sv to form a team

[cyan smelt]

Keeping a rabbit is illegal where I am because they're a huge pest

[craggy dagger]

nods

[torn parrot]

Wait is there…

[craggy dagger]

i dont think so?

if you don't count an entire line

[torn parrot]

Do you count wigglytuff as a bunny

Okay now here’s a stretch

Tinkaton as a bunny

I need to stop

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/ani/wigglytuff.gif

[craggy dagger]

no

tink is not a bun-

[chrome knot]

tinkabun?

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/gen5/tinkaton.png

[craggy dagger]

...

[torn parrot]

(:

[craggy dagger]

[torn parrot]

Unrelated I think indeedee is really cute

[chrome knot]

tinkabun tinkabun

shes FAT

[torn parrot]

she a CHONK

https://tenor.com/view/indeedee-pokemon-gif-10757929013257697734

[craggy dagger]

he's

[torn parrot]

Yes

[craggy dagger]

um
cool :0

[torn parrot]

Oh wait tinkaton is fat?

Maybe

Only a little

[craggy dagger]

nuu
thats the
hair?

idk what to call them

[torn parrot]

She has a very circular body

[craggy dagger]

oh i guess thats true

[chrome knot]

live tinkaton reaction

[craggy dagger]

[solid frigate]

ah yes. p e r f e c t

[plain drum]

Looks legit to me

I mean I can tell that's Tinka, I wouldn't be able to pull that part off

[timber falcon]

is there anything worth calcing for hydreigon

one thing i can maybe think of is specs dengo

which does OHKO at max everything

[torn parrot]

1.5 draco seems safe

cus of the crit build as well

[timber falcon]

yeah i feel like i should be doing fine damage wise

just fearing that tera steel make it rain

[strange fjord]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2173515938
Doing a little silly team with ribombee

[timber falcon]

lol is that max speed ursaluna

[strange fjord]

its not

[timber falcon]

LMAO IT WAS ZOROAK ALL ALONG

[torn parrot]

I feel immeasurable joy

[timber falcon]

i wouldnt have even noticed zoroak could be pulling such shenanigans

is it specs?

[strange fjord]

Yeah

[timber falcon]

oh so very stronk

[torn parrot]

Nicely done

I like your team (:

[timber falcon]

i second that

[strange fjord]

thank you! Just wanted to do something silly with Ribombee. ill do more battle when I get the chance and see how well the team does

[dapper crag]

Swampert [Water/Ground]

Immune

Electric

Resists (0.5x)

Fire, Poison, Rock, Steel

Neutral damage

Bug, Dark, Dragon, Fairy, Fighting, Flying, Ghost, Ground, Ice, Normal, Psychic, Stellar, Water

Weak (4x)

Grass

Type Notes

Ground-types take no damage from Sandstorm.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[chrome knot]

hoolyyyy

you had me fooled i was like goddamn that rilla is slow

[timber falcon]

is there such thing as an offensive incineroar set

one that really like to ruin the day of rillaboom and psychic types

or do i have to get creative

[next stump]

you can run AV with an adamant nature, it's not the worst idea

[timber falcon]

oof i have AV reserved for a mon that would really like it

which incin is supposed to mainly cover rilla for#

found this for reg G on munchlax

pretty sure its made to 2HKO CIR but itll have to do

[nocturne holly]

Bro hyper voice on h zoro is so good as illusion 😭

Ribombee lowkey underrated

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 743: Ribombee

Types

Bug/Fairy

Abilities

Honey Gather, Shield Dust, Sweet Veil (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

60/55/60/95/70/124

Total

464

Other Formes

Ribombee-Totem

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[timber falcon]

thats pretty fast for this format right?

9th fastest

[true sluice]

hi everyone, when making a TR team should every mon be as slow as they can be or should you keep some with a bit of speed?

[torn parrot]

Ngl zoro and ursaluna do kinda seem great together

[timber falcon]

depends, some teams feature as hard tr, others have two modes, fast OR slow

[next stump]

yeah it really depends on the pokemon

[torn parrot]

Fr 😎

[true sluice]

a sylveon or armarouge for example on a TR?

[next stump]

there is some value in running speed on them. If you run Quiet with 0SPE IV, you will underspeed basically every Incineroar which can be a very bad thing if you are running Meteor Beam to threaten them

[chrome knot]

dillon im ngl i joined the darkside

been playin zamazenta recently lmfao

[next stump]

CIR is dead IMO, you've gotta be a god to play some of the matchups

like matching into CSR balance every fucking game is so difficult

[chrome knot]

top% tables will have cir

[next stump]

and you cant even pin the urshifus anymore because they're all stellar + sash

[chrome knot]

the more people sleep on it the more innovation will exceed for cir

[next stump]

yeah I agree, but the effort you have to put into making the CSR matchup consistently playable is tough

[torn parrot]

I think how hard you have it against trick room is proportional to how much trouble he will give you

[chrome knot]

i think cir has the highest potential to surprise again like naic results

i bet theres is something we all overlooked that a handful of people saw and kept low until worlds

[next stump]

if rillaboom didnt exist eleki would solve the matchup

[solid frigate]

CIR is just too damn Consistent

like if you see Caly Ice you would see almost the same 5 partners

[chrome knot]

theres room for variation but you would be correct yes

[foggy lodge]

Horrible

I play Koraidon to me that match up is hard asf

[chrome knot]

CIR Rilla Bolt Urshifu is necessary, last 2 can be flex picks

i settled with Farig & Ogerpon-Hearthflame before i swapped to zam

[foggy lodge]

No Inci?

[solid frigate]

I seen some Incin and Amoonguss as well but yeah flexible Picks as usual

[chrome knot]

nah

i liked having redirection & a strong fire type

that wasnt a fire type just for show tbh

[foggy lodge]

Makes sense

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-curse-gif-27652452

Yes
We love it

[chrome knot]

its fun af

defo bringing it to locals

[bold geode]

Yes
We love it

Zamazenta gotta be favorite restricted

He chonky
For no fuckin reason

[torn parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/walking-strut-prance-waddle-cute-gif-17761443

Zamazenta is coming to sit on you

And then you die

[pallid hare]

he wears a 1200 lb suit of armor

[torn parrot]

Zama runs two moves that involve sitting on his opponent

[foggy lodge]

Body press animation is so funny to me

[bold geode]

Yeah but he still so fuckin

CHONKY

[nocturne holly]

@strange fjord ngl wanna use h zoroark what set are you running?

[bold geode]

THAT'S A CHONKY BOY

[strange fjord]

Zoroark-Hisui (F) @ Choice Specs  
Ability: Illusion  
Level: 50  
Shiny: Yes  
Tera Type: Normal  
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe  
Timid Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Hyper Voice  
- Shadow Ball  
- Burning Jealousy  
- Hyper Beam

My set is changing a bit since im seeing what the team needs but this should be fine.

Timid is needed to outspeed Palafin to potentially snipe it before it flip turns

or at least chunk it

[foggy lodge]

Someone shared this in another server

[old tulip]

Hey All! Have a quick question for anyone who is able to help me out!
I stopped playing VGC during reg G because I think we all know

I have been looking at Reg H ideas and found something that has me interested!
Every regulation possible I play Beat up Annihilape with either Maus or Whimsicott

I wanted to give Sneasel a go this time around just for something different with the move set as followed

Fake out
Taunt
Beat up
Icy wind

3 questions!

1. am I always going Focus sash? or is there reason to go Covert cloak/goggles
2. Am i going low attack IV to prevent damage on annihilape with the beat up hits
3. Tera ghost to avoid fake out? (If for some god forsaken reason I have to actually tera him)

Any and all help would be appreciated!

[rustic mountain]

generally one of the many reasons ud use the others is their lower atk stat so yea id do that also its coming off stab which means itll do extra damage u may not want

its pretty frail so sash would be obvious but also redirection and what not can totally just kill the set up ur goin for hence goggles, id also consider protect potentially to get out of some sticky situations. fo + atk can jus blow u up

[strange fjord]

1. You can do goggles to avoid redirection. Since you're not offensive with Dire Claw, Unburden matters less.
2. With the set you're using, yeah. You're only damage is really Icy Wind.
3. Tera Ghost for the fake out immunity but they likely wont fake you out since you have Fake Out and usually outspeed so its not a likely FO target.

[solid frigate]

im yoinking it

[rustic mountain]

i think they are talking about sneasel not sneasler

[strange fjord]

Oh dang

[nocturne holly]

What what does the left most column mean?

Nvm nature mb

[strange fjord]

Then you dont need to Tera Ghost bc Inner Focus

So you run Sash with Tera Grass to avoid redirection

[craggy dagger]

i made top 8 in a showdown room with this monstrosity
https://pokepast.es/ad09b63e31c9277f

idk what

this even is

[nocturne holly]

Is pult the shit?

Banded and fast as fuck

[strange fjord]

Yeah I've seen a few

[nocturne holly]

Also has u turn shit

[rustic mountain]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2173564140-exuhhuw48he4ynv5iklikwmog6oelg3pw
u tell me

[craggy dagger]

pult is really
niche
like it will do its job
and thats it

[nocturne holly]

WOAH YOURE COMP HELPER NOW?

[rustic mountain]

wait why am i orange

kit

[undone sage]

[craggy dagger]

Tree is now comp help whoa

[rustic mountain]

[craggy dagger]

[undone sage]

[rustic mountain]

[old tulip]

@rustic mountain @strange fjord THANK YOU SO MUCH!

[gentle crag]

schiller. has given 1 Gen Rep to treeco., pizza.time

[undone sage]

Comp Helper Tree always here to help

[rustic mountain]

def not

[craggy dagger]

the only downside to pult is that
it has a very limited pool of physical ghost moves so you run tera ghost blast or you have to sacrifice that ghost coverage

[solid frigate]

ayo Treeco is promoted

[undone sage]

[rustic mountain]

[solid frigate]

[nocturne holly]

What’s its moveset

Pult harc team incoming fr

[rustic mountain]

p force/tera blast/ dragon darts/u turn

[solid frigate]

HO?

this combo is Very HO

[craggy dagger]

wha

[rustic mountain]

?

[craggy dagger]

no sucker punch?

and either ghost blast/p force?

[rustic mountain]

havent necessarily felt the need for it unless im facing another pult ig but even then i like p force so im not forced to tera for ghost coverage

[craggy dagger]

mm fair

im still crying
why does pult not get poltergiest

[solid frigate]

Phantom force can hit through protect as well so

[nocturne holly]

Ew tf

[rustic mountain]

its nice at forcing pins and as u notice vs the dozo, made protect nonexistent. the crit didnt matter either it was a 2hko at that point regardless

[solid frigate]

i think its kinda a double Edged Sword type of move(Unless you don’t knock off their items but stull

[nocturne holly]

Nah you really want both tbh

[nocturne holly]

Wait you’re not orange anynore

[rustic mountain]

yea it was a joke

[craggy dagger]

its just
back
reg D/E
it was
ghost blast or p force

[rustic mountain]

i think alex ran both iirc

def didnt have sucker

[craggy dagger]

[rustic mountain]

p sure it was the 4 moves im running tho ill have to double check

[craggy dagger]

ill have to try both then-

[undone sage]

I can't troll with real roles for too long

[nocturne holly]

wait how is dengo and pult together does the double ghost pose any problems
Also is it set up dengo or like choice

[solid frigate]

I don’t really like Sucker on Pult but i mean it had their valid purposes

[rustic mountain]

i mean its a different format sucker might have more merit but idk if for this team its the best. i dont wanna tera it a lot of times i bring it and no ghost coverage makes it feel less then ideal in most mus id bring it in

[nocturne holly]

I don’t like being locked into sucker

[craggy dagger]

dengo pult is fine imo

[solid frigate]

A ghost move that can break through Protect and Wide Guard so why the heck not use Phantom Force

[rustic mountain]

lefties set up and nah hasnt really been an issue, they provide different value and most games dont come together

[craggy dagger]

its just pult might have some problems with sucker punch gambit

[solid frigate]

Redirection?

[rustic mountain]

idt im bringing pult into most gambit teams tbh

[nocturne holly]

WAIT I CANT USE BAND HARC AND BAND PULT

[nocturne holly]

Fariiii

I need a fari for dengo and pult

[solid frigate]

just Use Lorb or Amulet D-Dance for Pult maybe idk

[nocturne holly]

Nah band pult

Probably CA or Sitrus harc

[rustic mountain]

it def has its drawbacks, usually if u click it u have to have good reason being ur either koing the threat or doing enough damage and making sure ur not getting kod in return. if its the former, u usually dont mind if theres a mon trade

[solid frigate]

fair

[nocturne holly]

Tbh I don’t like non banded hard

[rustic mountain]

like ur leaving urself exposed the following turn cause u go first so u gta be particular wen ur clicking it

[nocturne holly]

Wait tree is it max max pult

[rustic mountain]

usually u go first obviously theres instances thats not the case

[rustic mountain]

yea

im going adamant havent felt the need to change it yet

[solid frigate]

also if you wanna be funny,You can Try Phantom Force the Wide Guard,It breaks it

And then use like a Spread move

[rustic mountain]

vs pult mirror itd b a 50/50 anyway least this way ik im slower most times

[nocturne holly]

Mhm s

[rustic mountain]

mhm s?

[solid frigate]

why am i listening to Unova E4 Theme for no reason-

I’m not even grinding Ladder-

[strange fjord]

bro got caught vibing

[solid frigate]

[rustic mountain]

pokemon osts go hard

[solid frigate]

Galar and Unova ones man.

They hit so hard

[rustic mountain]

i like gen 3 ost a lot

unova has some bangers tho

[solid frigate]

wow Torrent first time did not fanboying on Kalos

[rustic mountain]

galar overall is solid, i think sv actually has a better overall ost tho

[solid frigate]

SV definitely have a lot of hits

Its kinda sad that Koraidon and Miraidon doesn’t really have a actual Legendary Theme

[rustic mountain]

they dont?

[solid frigate]

I don’t really count Paradise Protection Protocol as their Legendary Theme

[rustic mountain]

[solid frigate]

Their Encounter Theme is still Area Zero Battle Theme which is weird cuz you think they have one

meanwhile Terapagos:

My ears are enjoying it so much

[solid frigate]

Technically thats the reason when i climb with Miraidon i just use AI Professor theme

[nocturne holly]

@rustic mountain Prima or sylv with dengo and pult
I want that dsf core
Also probably gonna do fari and incin too

[rustic mountain]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2173578750-eq6nnm7ibgeuh38dtns7a5gorl4puabpw
@bold geode this u ? (infernape team)

[rustic mountain]

seems solid

i feel like ive played 1 arch since adding dpult where they all at lol

[nocturne holly]

If I do cm prima would that be too much set up with np dengo

[rustic mountain]

prolly

[nocturne holly]

uhhh Palafin it prob is

[rustic mountain]

always feels good beating mausape

[solid frigate]

how to beat Mausape:

P a l a f i n

[rustic mountain]

i didnt bring palafin. too much cost efficiency on the switch out t1 to not get enough ground

some teams u can afford that and even bringing it in the back occasionally but idk not vs mausape

[solid frigate]

i mean fair point,But still i I kinda wanna try H-Zoroark

[rustic mountain]

i keep saying its as good a time as any to try a lot of things out

it has value outside of even vs mausape i think

[solid frigate]

Just a Confusion to opponents,But i think it can work against some Archatypes

its just what partners works with it

[rustic mountain]

im thinkin moreso individually into certain mons, like w/ scarf u outspeed and can ko pult, obviously immune to any mausape stuff, good into gholdengo potentially if u have speed control on ur side

[solid frigate]

i usually run a TW Mon,But Whims or Talonflame looks solid in here

[rustic mountain]

incin for sure

[solid frigate]

and In some lesser Extent Farigiraf to protect it from Sucker Punch

but Tsarenna can cover up the FWG Core

[rustic mountain]

could do like that/bm ursa/giraffe/incin

2 other mons to maybe round out a faster mode

it covers incin and bm ursas weaknesses

and vice versa for incin

hyper voice onnit can still make ppl think its giraffe or bm ursa haha

could do some interesting stuff haha

[solid frigate]

Whims or Talonflame as Tailwind Setter and i am thinking about Meow or Palafin

[rustic mountain]

shit i might try that myself

[solid frigate]

Ill build the team tmr

when i have Work Break for 30 Minutes cuz yes i can build Teams very fast and still work

[rustic mountain]

ill prolly throw something together tn

[rustic mountain]

prolly whims

[dapper crag]

Move: Burning Jealousy

Has a 100% chance to burn the target if it had a stat stage raised this turn.

Type

Fire

Category

Special

Power

70

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[solid frigate]

H Zoroark has this Move

[rustic mountain]

encore stuff and gives u a grass to the fwg core and then palafin or gyrados

maybe even water tauros tbh

i kinda like that haha

[solid frigate]

I think Offensive GYarados or Water Tauros is good

[rustic mountain]

yea

[solid frigate]

i can run Special Zoroark cuz Burning Jealousy sounds fun

with Shadow Ball Dark Pulse and and stuff

[rustic mountain]

yea i mean its always gna be a special attacker huh

[solid frigate]

Zoroark-Hisui @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Illusion
Level: 50
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Dark Pulse
• Shadow Ball
• Burning Jealousy
• Bitter Malice

haven’t change the Tera Type yet

[bold geode]

1. No
2. Don't give me ideas

[rustic mountain]

yea im going trick over pulse, seems solid tho

[rustic mountain]

lmao theres ur idea. they are decently high on ladder

[bold geode]

How lmao

[rustic mountain]

wdym? they won games haha

[bold geode]

Yeah but Infernape though lol

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/66018b4cfc5fb8d7

I’ll try the Pulse Option

[rustic mountain]

little bit different of move/item choice then i have but yea looks good

im also making a variant w/ shroom over whims i think thatd b better

[solid frigate]

i mean its still testing,i can try a more offensive approach

[rustic mountain]

not even more offensive, i jus meant like we made a few different calls idk if mine are necessarily better

[solid frigate]

Fair

[rustic mountain]

like im sitrus over av on incin, mirror herb on tauros w/ bulk up no aqua jet shit like that

mental herb on giraffe

[solid frigate]

is just i think Goggles Fari and AV Incin looks better here(And Yes Primarina moment) due to i have 3 Spore Immunity

[rustic mountain]

i have 2 tera grass on the team and a grass type i def respect amoongus but im thinkin mental herb might b more consistent. im pretty confident playing around shroom outside of tr if they have it

[solid frigate]

fair point

[rustic mountain]

again tho i think it all depends

goggles isnt a bad choice

[solid frigate]

also yes those EVs are custom made so that looks weird af

[nocturne holly]

https://pokepast.es/8a180d5ede8cd066 gambit over dengo? Thinking because I have fari for a tr mode

[rustic mountain]

dont u have giraffe for anti tr and prio block? idt u gta necessarily round out a tr mode

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 1000: Gholdengo

Types

Steel/Ghost

Abilities

Good as Gold

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

87/60/95/133/91/84

Total

550

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[solid frigate]

84 Speed Sure is strange lol

Idk it doesn’t work on TR at all but it can work as a fast mode

you don’t have to fixate on one mode

[nocturne holly]

Yea lol it’s goofy

Tbh might do talon as the last slot

Or incin
Or harc

Incin boring as fuck to pla tho

[solid frigate]

welllllll

idk your choice

[mighty stump]

They are not

[nocturne holly]

What’d they do to you 😭😭

[mighty stump]

I’m a vet what did they not do to me

lol

[nocturne holly]

I’m no animal expert

but ima just give it a carrot and call it a day

[solid frigate]

bro gets jumped

literally

[rustic mountain]

good is boring?

[mighty stump]

If your games are boring its a 50:50 on good/bad

Either its too easy or just really stale

[rustic mountain]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2173607309-6zaaj4u9vkac1vc6rmy7kv6qkjlv70rpw
20-4 to 1400s on this acc w/ dpult palance it feels really good no mu feels unwinnable

[rustic mountain]

i guess that can happen but if ur consistently winning i dont personally find that boring. each game usually presents its own thing and especially this format atm its not centralized enough where ur playing the same stuff over and over

[mighty stump]

What do u do against MausApe

[rustic mountain]

lemme pull up mausape mu

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2173584410-fqtcc4ce7awvwj55htpprffhaq976p6pw

rough idea, not necessarily the best execution but they played it a little weird imo

[mighty stump]

They played that terribly

lord

[rustic mountain]

basically bait the tera if at all and clear maus asap so i can outspeed and focus down ape w/ dpult

[mighty stump]

Does your Pult have Tera Blast Ghost

[rustic mountain]

yea not the greatest, i played it a handful of times tho id have to get the other replays if i even saved em. usually early ladder i dont save many

idt its beaten me once

[rustic mountain]

yes

[mighty stump]

I don’t think you’d ever be allowed to click DDarts in that situation cause Super Fang + Rage Fist T1 into Pelipper slot would be your main problem

Then the moment sash peli goes down I think you lose control

[rustic mountain]

yea it can get a bit weird its not 100%

[mighty stump]

You have Haze for DozoGiri right

[rustic mountain]

yea

[mighty stump]

WG on Peli?

Hows the Archa MU

[spiral ridge]

i got a similar pult but fairy tera to resist fighting and all the dark and ghost running about 😭

[rustic mountain]

nah i have hh on peli for the arch mu. tera blast ghost doesnt ko otherwise haha

[mighty stump]

Adamant?

[rustic mountain]

its too annoying to let it get boosted and try and navigate that ive tried it and its like 50/50 depending on how they play it so i gta burst damage it either 1hko or like 90%

yea pult is adamant

i dont wanna opt into pult speed ties and it outspeeds basically everything else

[mighty stump]

252+ Atk Choice Band Tera-Ghost Dragapult Helping Hand Tera Blast vs. 252 HP / 12 Def Archaludon: 170-200 (86.2 - 101.5%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

Should be fine

[dull ibex]

I might try e-force spam

My soul reasoning is I love armarouge

[rustic mountain]

yea i wish the chance to okho was higher but eh ill take it tbh, ive beaten it the 2/3 times i played it

[dull ibex]

I'm not sure if that's a good enough reason but

[mighty stump]

Sole*

[rustic mountain]

weirdly havent seen it much since adding pult which was like the reason i did that haha

[dull ibex]

You aren't wrong

[rustic mountain]

but pult has been good in other mus regardless

arm indeedee sucks imo but try it

[dull ibex]

Tofu are there any mons that people are saying are "back" that you think never left

[rustic mountain]

anything thats back def had left haha

[dull ibex]

I'm not sure that's true

[mighty stump]

Wdym? We just came off a v diff format

[dull ibex]

Well im sure people are like oh man gholdengo is so back

[rustic mountain]

whats returned this format that wasnt around in reg g? anything thats back now is b/c the power lvl got lowered and stuff like horses and urshifu arent allowed

[dull ibex]

When I don't think it ever really stopped being good

[mighty stump]

Gholdengo’s been good though

[dull ibex]

That kind of thing

[rustic mountain]

it wasnt good in reg g tho

[dull ibex]

If there is not any that's an okay answer

[dull ibex]

It was good in regulation g imo

[mighty stump]

I mean nothing comes to mind off the top of my head lol

[forest arrow]

It fit well on CIR teams to counter Zama

[rustic mountain]

on wat? where were its results

[mighty stump]

I don’t really try to see whats been good since it’s not or back or anything like that

[dull ibex]

I could have sworn I saw it on a few decent tourney teams

[rustic mountain]

i think any cir team that saw success didnt have ghold onnit

[mighty stump]

I’m not understanding the point of the question

[rustic mountain]

maybe early reg g but thats it

[mighty stump]

VR Tour had a lot of Gholdengo variants

[dull ibex]

I mostly just curious if people had been hyping up mons that stayed good in reg G

[rustic mountain]

the recent one?

[mighty stump]

Its why they evolved into the Raging Bolt variant to solely counter the mirror

Not the recent one

Mid/Early Reg G or so

[dull ibex]

It could have been early regulation g

[rustic mountain]

yea i think that was super early reg g

[dull ibex]

I did take breaks before the end of reg g

[forest arrow]

It specifically hit 124 to outspeed jolly incins

[dull ibex]

I don't think ghold was bad though

[mighty stump]

Not that super early either. Either way it’s also around on Balance comps for CIR

Gholdengo 100% was good in Reg G

[foggy lodge]

It has got some top 8 at regionals

In santiago or stockholm

[mighty stump]

Tera Normal is also used to account for CSR as well

[dull ibex]

Gholdengo and Mane are the two mons I don't think you can make bad

[chrome knot]

gm tofu

[mighty stump]

Gholdengo will never be bad

[mighty stump]

gm!!!

[dull ibex]

It's definitely dropped alot in some formats

[rustic mountain]

i felt like it faded out and was either giraffe or bolt as time went on

[dull ibex]

But that's mostly because of early new toy syndrome

[mighty stump]

It’s been pretty consistent

[dull ibex]

And other factors

[rustic mountain]

ill look em up i dont remember that tbh

[mighty stump]

Usage stats never tell the full story either

[dull ibex]

Mane literally had to be taken out of the pool to not be top usage lmao

[mighty stump]

It stopped being top usage in Reg G

[forest arrow]

I mean in reg g it was like 23%

[mighty stump]

Yea

[dull ibex]

Oh OK my b

[mighty stump]

For Mane that fall off is sheer

Like how Incin isn’t as necessary now

But its not not good

[solid frigate]

That Fall off tho is insane but makes lot of Sense

[rustic mountain]

so it did get top 8 in santiago but also that was middle of may reg g had just started haha. i jus agree to disagree. i dont think it was bad but it was very fringe use for reg g wen the format settled from wat i had seen

i definitely think its back in a way it wasnt before

[mighty stump]

Still a good anti-CIR anti-Zama

[rustic mountain]

so i dont think it applies to it

[foggy lodge]

to me it has been pretty good

[pastel blade]

Who should I add to this team

[foggy lodge]

In Koraidon teams

[solid frigate]

But does Reg G Becomes Reg I?

[rustic mountain]

yea

[solid frigate]

oh ok

[foggy lodge]

It feels like my carry tbh

[solid frigate]

Why use Raikou when Raging Bolt exists-

[dull ibex]

Reg H is September iirc

[mighty stump]

I feel it might be double restricted after

[rustic mountain]

obviously they like raikou

[solid frigate]

yea

[nocturne holly]

how common is Tera fire on mausape

[rustic mountain]

i feel like it has to be

[solid frigate]

not that common

[rustic mountain]

i see mostly water but i ran into 1 that was fire yday

[pastel blade]

Cause he’s cooler and I got the shiny

[dull ibex]

Tofu are you working?

[rustic mountain]

idk if fire is as strong w/o flutter since fairy in general isnt as prevalent (ik prim and sylveon exist)

[solid frigate]

ok so its shiny stuff

Also Raging GOAT

[nocturne holly]

Anyone have incin spread

[rustic mountain]

wat did u use in reg g

[craggy dagger]

wawawa-

[rustic mountain]

jus use that and adjust as u go

[pastel blade]

🤢

[rustic mountain]

idk man im on reg h atm i cant think of reg g teambuilding haha

[craggy dagger]

wym
bolt is cool

[solid frigate]

wisp Goggles is 252 HP,156 Def and 100 SpD if i remember

[pastel blade]

Giraffe neck lookin ass

[craggy dagger]

whats raikou
like
a cat that couldnt decide whether it wanted to be a leopard or a tiger

[forest arrow]

I’ve grown to love the Giraffe design

[solid frigate]

it literally doe raikou’s Job way better than raikou due to the Bulk

[pastel blade]

Lmaoo

[solid frigate]

its a Brachiosaurus which i like

[craggy dagger]

also
its goofy unlike raikou
raikou is basic

[rustic mountain]

i feel like its 244/156/108 but i could b wrong

[forest arrow]

TClap is too valuable

[craggy dagger]

true

[pastel blade]

Classic*

[craggy dagger]

nah
basic

[solid frigate]

it can work but its just i use wisp Goggles Incin set like that but eh

[craggy dagger]

its just a basic cat

[pastel blade]

😂

[rustic mountain]

entei>suicune>raikou

[solid frigate]

bro is a Johto stan

[foggy lodge]

Entei goat

[solid frigate]

Indeed

[craggy dagger]

suicune>entei>raikou

[rustic mountain]

its negligible tbh haha i jus remember that as the spread idk

[foggy lodge]

Also the best competitively from the 3

[mighty stump]

Common

[craggy dagger]

well
even then
suicune and entei arent too far off from being the top legendary dog

[solid frigate]

wait since when

[rustic mountain]

u been playing reg h tofu?

[pastel blade]

Sinnoh*

[rustic mountain]

yea im not mad at some1 having suicune at the top, enteis just the coolest to me personally

[mighty stump]

236/156/108 then I just split 4/4 in the remaining relevant stats

[solid frigate]

so true

[nocturne holly]

https://pokepast.es/0bc93243bb4b62ca

[rustic mountain]

as long as raikou is last ur good

[mighty stump]

Athough with minimal spe you’ll prolly lose FO wars lma

[solid frigate]

yeah Agree

[rustic mountain]

yea that works too

[mighty stump]

Reg H ezpz

[nocturne holly]

Using your tera so you can’t get wiped as a phys attacker is dosgusting

[rustic mountain]

haha have u been using lax

[mighty stump]

I think I have a very strong variant of the Palance and then another Snorlax team 😎

[rustic mountain]

curious wat ur playing w/

well that answers that haha

is it volc stuff w/ lax

[mighty stump]

The Snorlax team is so incredibly left field even for me

[solid frigate]

anyways

[rustic mountain]

interesting

[mighty stump]

No

[solid frigate]

we all love Bolt besides Sora kek

[mighty stump]

You will not be able to guess the mons at all

[rustic mountain]

ahhh ok i think thats the only time ive seen it outside a tr comp

[rustic mountain]

prolly not haha a lot of underused even for reg h im guessing

[craggy dagger]

i kinda want to
use lax

[mighty stump]

Theyre all like

[craggy dagger]

but not too sure how

[mighty stump]

Sub 1% usage for half the team not including lax

[solid frigate]

i want to use it but i might fucked it up

[rustic mountain]

torrent and me were theory crafting a bm ursa/giraffe/zoroark/incin team

[mighty stump]

People atm are just using BDrum stuff

[rustic mountain]

haha i knew it yea im not guessing any of em

[mighty stump]

Which I think is alright now but I never liked BDrum Lax

[foggy lodge]

Mimikyu¿

[mighty stump]

Nope

[rustic mountain]

i think mimikyu is over 1%

atleast 2%

[solid frigate]

somehow the first time i tried something with someone that is not Lyco or Crephace

[mighty stump]

Horoark is ok, I never liked it as a MausApe counter but it does the job lol

[nocturne holly]

Cinderace

[rustic mountain]

obviously tofu doesnt wanna share the rest haha. im looking foward to the blog post 🫡

[mighty stump]

Nope

[mighty stump]

HEHEHEHE

[forest arrow]

I know the grass type I think

[mighty stump]

IF IT WORKS OUT

IT WILL BE INSANE

[mighty stump]

Go on

[forest arrow]

Rotom mow?👀

[mighty stump]

I’ll definitely tell you guys if you guess correctly

[mighty stump]

Nope but I did consider it

[rustic mountain]

yea thats p much how it got birthed haha and then bm ursa/incin/giraffe cover each other nicely and have done well w/ each other in the past

[nocturne holly]

Arboliva?

[forest arrow]

oh dang I thought I had it XD

[craggy dagger]

hm

[mighty stump]

Imo with FariLuna you already deal w MausApe 100%

[solid frigate]

Chesnaught?

[mighty stump]

That’s 1

[rustic mountain]

rotom mow kinda trash rn

[nocturne holly]

THE FUCK

[craggy dagger]

chesnaught :0

[nocturne holly]

CHESNAUGHR???

[mighty stump]

See

[rustic mountain]

chesnaught holy fuck haha

[mighty stump]

I told you

[solid frigate]

you did say that in the call and i am hyping about it

[craggy dagger]

i might be able to throw in some guesses

[rustic mountain]

weirdly have played vs a few chesnaught teams

[nocturne holly]

Why 😭😭

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 652: Chesnaught

Types

Grass/Fighting

Abilities

Overgrow, Bulletproof (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

88/107/122/74/75/64

Total

530

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[nocturne holly]

Same feels very mid tho

[forest arrow]

Oh you did talk about chesnaught!

[craggy dagger]

its pretty bulky though

122 defense 107 attack

[rustic mountain]

i never lost to it ill leave it at that

[nocturne holly]

Wait does the team have a tr mode

[solid frigate]

i mean its decent niche with Bulletproof and Being a bulky Grass Type

[craggy dagger]

what would tofu use for tr in the first place

[solid frigate]

am i the only one who did my homework on that lmao

[chrome knot]

@mighty stump can you tell my migraine go away :<

[rustic mountain]

i think it has somewhat of a place but not a very consistent one

if tofu has the sauce im happy to be proven wrong tho

[forest arrow]

No I remember my brain was just screaming rotom mow lol

[rustic mountain]

so well see haha

[nocturne holly]

bullet proof tera fire calling it
Dengo counter

[rustic mountain]

theyve all been tera fire that ive played vs

its just been shell smash or id body press stuff

[nocturne holly]

Yr

[mighty stump]

oh act the dragon type is p decent usage

[solid frigate]

Its kinda similar to Greninja in consistency,Just in different Generation

Greninja is a niche in Gen 6 as a Mat Block/Pledge Team User

Chesnaught is Tera Fire bulletproof in Gen 9

[nocturne holly]

Same

[nocturne holly]

Give us a range

[foggy lodge]

Baxca?

[mighty stump]

Go away

[mighty stump]

👁️

[mighty stump]

No

[chrome knot]

it hurts

[nocturne holly]

Mence?

[mighty stump]

Take some paracetamol and sleep

[mighty stump]

Nope

[foggy lodge]

Uhh Hoodra

[nocturne holly]

Hoodra?

[rustic mountain]

oh wait it doesnt even get shell smash wtf idk im buggin haha

[mighty stump]

No

[craggy dagger]

i have some ideas but it might be a bit weird

[solid frigate]

Why always Hoodra being the guy that mentioned

Dragapult?

[rustic mountain]

hoodra sucks

[craggy dagger]

i was gonna say pult or dnite

[mighty stump]

No and no

[solid frigate]

welp

[craggy dagger]

but i can also see hydra(pple)

[mighty stump]

no

[solid frigate]

i might try Kieran’s Team lol

[craggy dagger]

awe

[rustic mountain]

its gna b a lot of nos haha

[nocturne holly]

Hydreigon?

[mighty stump]

Yes

[solid frigate]

ok fair

[nocturne holly]

woahhh

[craggy dagger]

oh so the wrong hydra

[rustic mountain]

hydreigon isnt 1% use

[nocturne holly]

He said it was pretty decent usage

for the dragon

[rustic mountain]

oh i missed it

[solid frigate]

i was gonna Ask about Special attacker Dragon

so me ans Sour Cigar got one point now lol

[nocturne holly]

[rustic mountain]

[forest arrow]

I can use talonflame again, yayyyyy

[solid frigate]

the birb

[nocturne holly]

Birb

the birb

[rustic mountain]

i have a shiny fletchinder the furious i should use that

[nocturne holly]

how’d the rotom thing come up what

[forest arrow]

call me Falkner cause I be loving these birbs

[mighty stump]

Try guessing the Water type

[rustic mountain]

guessing tofus team no?

[solid frigate]

i have a shiny Talonflame the Socialable lol

[mighty stump]

Have fun w that

[foggy lodge]

Slowking

[forest arrow]

Literally just found one in my box that I had forgotten about

[solid frigate]

Primarina?

[mighty stump]

Nope

[rustic mountain]

thats the common mark tho. cool but not cool as personality marks imo

[nocturne holly]

No like the bot in discord
Someone said birb and something showed up

[rustic mountain]

ohhhh

[nocturne holly]

yea like that

[rustic mountain]

yea its a command trigger lol

[solid frigate]

or Aqua Tauros?

[solid frigate]

i mean i dont shiny hunt as much as used to so yeah

[rustic mountain]

same

[forest arrow]

Milotic?

Prob not 1%

[mighty stump]

No and no

Haha

[rustic mountain]

yea milotic is over 1%

[mighty stump]

Its even more left field than Chesnaught

[forest arrow]

Now I’m curious, you cooked something juicy

[solid frigate]

Why i suddenly think of Tatsu or Dozo

But i know its not them

[nocturne holly]

Feraligatir?

[mighty stump]

Nope

Nope

[nocturne holly]

Toxapex

[solid frigate]

is it a Starter?

[rustic mountain]

feraligatr is so cool

[mighty stump]

Hell no

Also no additional hints other than type

[nocturne holly]

Fr dope design

[rustic mountain]

yea

[nocturne holly]

Lapras

[mighty stump]

Nah

[nocturne holly]

Aren’t its stats like ass tho

[solid frigate]

Samurott Hisuian form?

[mighty stump]

Nope

[rustic mountain]

they arent great

[solid frigate]

its Ass af

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 160: Feraligatr

Type

Water

Abilities

Torrent, Sheer Force (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

85/105/100/79/83/78

Total

530

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[solid frigate]

but Lorb+Sheer Force saved it

[nocturne holly]

That spelling is terrible

Yea 105 atk isn’t the greatest

[mighty stump]

Thats useable ig

[rustic mountain]

its ok

not great not bad

[forest arrow]

I forgot that existed, will it be okay?

[mighty stump]

Theme of the next 6 months

[rustic mountain]

lmao

[solid frigate]

i swear if its Greninja i would USE THAT TEAM

[mighty stump]

No

[forest arrow]

Kind of want to build a team with my alpha shiny if possible lol

[mighty stump]

Hahaha

[solid frigate]

OK THANK GOD I DONT HAVE TO USE IT

[nocturne holly]

Dragakge

[rustic mountain]

whats ur alpha shiny

[foggy lodge]

Politoed

[mighty stump]

Dragalge isnt even a Water type

[solid frigate]

thats a Poison Type-

[forest arrow]

Hisuian Samurott

[rustic mountain]

i have one and its abomasnow

[mighty stump]

No 😎

[nocturne holly]

bro it’s close enough

[solid frigate]

Def not Pelipper

[mighty stump]

nop

[foggy lodge]

Slowbro?

[nocturne holly]

Vaporeon

[mighty stump]

no n no

[solid frigate]

we aint doing thay

[rustic mountain]

is slowbro that left field? lol

[forest arrow]

Blastoise?

[mighty stump]

Yes

[solid frigate]

I FUCKING KNEW IT IS A STARTER

[nocturne holly]

Lol

[foggy lodge]

Does Blastoise still has follow me

[rustic mountain]

blastoise is way less left field then chesnaught

[forest arrow]

My baby made the cut

[nocturne holly]

Yea tbh

[mighty stump]

So you know Lax, Chesnaught, Blastoise and Hydreigon

[rustic mountain]

lax/stoise/chesnaught/dreigon is weird tho haha

[solid frigate]

at least Chesnaught made it

[dapper crag]

Blastoise's moveset:

Physical Moves

Aqua Jet, Aqua Tail, Avalanche, Bide, Bite, Body Press, Body Slam, Brick Break, Bulldoze, Counter, Crunch, Dig, Dive, Double-Edge, Dragon Tail, Dynamic Punch, Earthquake, Facade, Fake Out, False Swipe, Fissure, Flail, Fling, Flip Turn, Focus Punch, Frustration, Giga Impact, Gyro Ball, Headbutt, Ice Punch, Ice Spinner, Iron Tail, Liquidation, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Natural Gift, Outrage, Power-Up Punch, Rage, Rapid Spin, Return, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Tomb, Rollout, Secret Power, Seismic Toss, Skull Bash, Smack Down, Strength, Submission, Tackle, Take Down, Waterfall, Wave Crash, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Aura Sphere, Blizzard, Brine, Bubble, Bubble Beam, Chilling Water, Confusion, Dark Pulse, Dragon Pulse, Flash Cannon, Focus Blast, Hidden Power, Hydro Cannon, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Mirror Coat, Mud Shot, Mud-Slap, Muddy Water, Round, Scald, Signal Beam, Snore, Surf, Tera Blast, Terrain Pulse, Water Gun, Water Pledge, Water Pulse, Water Spout, Weather Ball, Whirlpool

Status Moves

Aqua Ring, Attract, Block, Captivate, Celebrate, Confide, Curse, Defense Curl, Double Team, Endure, Follow Me, Foresight, Hail, Haze, Helping Hand, Iron Defense, Life Dew, Mimic, Mist, Mud Sport, Protect, Rain Dance, Reflect, Refresh, Rest, Roar, Scary Face, Shell Smash, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Swagger, Tail Whip, Toxic, Withdraw, Work Up, Yawn

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Blastoise.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[nocturne holly]

is there a fire type

[mighty stump]

There is

[solid frigate]

WAIT I USED BLASTOISE IN DRAGT

[rustic mountain]

houndoom

[nocturne holly]

Incin 😈

[mighty stump]

No and no

[rustic mountain]

macargo

[mighty stump]

This one is pretty decent usage too

So its nothing niche

[nocturne holly]

Harc

[solid frigate]

Paldea fire tauros

[mighty stump]

No and no

[rustic mountain]

harc

[foggy lodge]

Volcarona

[solid frigate]

Rotom Heat?

[mighty stump]

No and no

[nocturne holly]

Talon

[mighty stump]

No

[nocturne holly]

H typhlo????

[mighty stump]

No

[rustic mountain]

ceruledge? not common but

[mighty stump]

No

[foggy lodge]

Armarouge

[mighty stump]

Yes

[rustic mountain]

indeedee as the last?

[mighty stump]

Yes

[nocturne holly]

oh

[solid frigate]

yep Psyspam

[rustic mountain]

[nocturne holly]

ew psyspam

[solid frigate]

Psyspam TR

[mighty stump]

Well if you wanna say TR

[solid frigate]

cuz Chesnaught is kinda slow

[rustic mountain]

psyspam but w/ the weirdest other 4 members

[nocturne holly]

Lax, naughty, blastoise, arma, indeedee

[mighty stump]

😎

[nocturne holly]

Hydrei

[solid frigate]

I can see it work cuz this sounds very Hard TR besides Hydreigon and Maybe Blastoise

[mighty stump]

The funny part is the fundamental formula matches all my other teams

[rustic mountain]

calling chesnaught naughty should have u fined $100,000

[mighty stump]

LOL

[nocturne holly]

Lmaooo

[solid frigate]

LMAO

[nocturne holly]

toisey

[mighty stump]

I’m definitely just exploring this team for fun

[solid frigate]

I’m just gonna eclipse Cannon that Statement

[rustic mountain]

i hope u find success w/ it

[mighty stump]

Me too

It will make great content for the blog

[nocturne holly]

Rilla=boomer

[rustic mountain]

looking forward to the teams that come out this format

[nocturne holly]

for sure not everyday you chesnaughty

[mighty stump]

Blocking you rn tbh

[nocturne holly]

It was autocorrect the first time…

[mighty stump]

Block tuah

[rustic mountain]

reg h has been great so far. i even had some1 give me a rant on how they thought this format was gna be fun and then they played (and lost) to my team and basically called it uncreative . this was day 3

[mighty stump]

LOL

[rustic mountain]

they were running psyspam btw

[mighty stump]

Just keep in mind that Reg H, being the low power format it is, is definitely gonna challenge your board development and fundamentals

[rustic mountain]

big time

[nocturne holly]

Fr

[mighty stump]

Like you need to have good reasoning to put things on teams

[solid frigate]

rn my Must Fundementals in Building teams

At least 1 Speed Control

2 Modes,Perferably Rain cuz thats my More knowledgeable Weather

At least try to build a FWG Core and Amoonguss Proof

Have tools to fight against Prankster(At least have a dark type)

[mighty stump]

Even if they’re “solid”

You still need deliberate reasoning

[nocturne holly]

reg h most skillful format?

[rustic mountain]

yea things have to be much more intentional

[mighty stump]

Like people just throw Incin/Rilla on a team and call it a day and are finding stale boards/not much progress

[solid frigate]

its debatable honestly with Reg D

[mighty stump]

Intent is important to develop the favourable boards you envision

[foggy lodge]

i actually don't know what to use in reg H

[mighty stump]

All formats are skillful

Haha

[rustic mountain]

oh maxi btw i have a replay for u 1 sec

[mighty stump]

The perspective just differs

[foggy lodge]

Like there are a lot of good cores and i don't know what to use

[mighty stump]

Like Reg H is gonna be more wide ranging and therefore less centralised

So knowledge checks are higher

[foggy lodge]

did i do something bad

[mighty stump]

Reg G was higher power and incredibly solid in its teams

So its a lot of matchup roulette

[rustic mountain]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2173112931-o5khzt53n6ir4jnsiv85qcwtx21ltq9pw
u mentioned metagross yday i think? heres a reason not to use it

[nocturne holly]

reg c and e were my favorite regs

[rustic mountain]

obviously its 1 player yada yada but idc that mon sucks

nd i like metagross

[mighty stump]

Wow they played that terribly

[rustic mountain]

every replay i show
tofu: ur opponent threw and handed u the game

[solid frigate]

i actually liked Reg G,Up Until i got burnt by climbing Master Ball Tiers Twice

But personally i prefer Reg F and Reg H

[rustic mountain]

[mighty stump]

LOL

NOT THAT BAD

[rustic mountain]

im exaggerating but damn lmfao

[solid frigate]

Pfft

[nocturne holly]

Tbh metagross niche was just flutter I think and it couldn’t even do that well
And it wasn’t even good when it was around

[mighty stump]

I JUST MEANT WHY DID THEY HEAVY SLAM PALAFIN

[rustic mountain]

nah i agree

[solid frigate]

HEAVY SLAM WHAT

[rustic mountain]

they did not play well at all i jus wanted to show metagross really wasnt doing much

[solid frigate]

WHY IT BARELY DOES ANYTHING

[nocturne holly]

how do watch it so fast 😭I was on like turn 3

[mighty stump]

I watch replays on Hyperfast lol

[solid frigate]

bro is playing Blitz mode but being a spectator

[rustic mountain]

maxi disappeared i guess lmao

[mighty stump]

We need to have VGC blitz

[nocturne holly]

LMAOOO

[solid frigate]

welp thats the end of me lmao

[rustic mountain]

watd that entail

super fast turns?

[mighty stump]

Have you played randbatz blitz

Basically you start out at a minute

[mighty stump]

time ticks down permanently to the point you have 10-15 seconds a turn

[solid frigate]

basically just play without your Brain

[mighty stump]

and then it stays that way

[nocturne holly]

Is that in showdown

[mighty stump]

If you timeout you lose too

[rustic mountain]

fuck haha

[mighty stump]

I would love VGC Blitz

[solid frigate]

yeah its Brain Off Mode mostly

[mighty stump]

Or brain turbo

[rustic mountain]

id prolly be ass at that. most of my turns i go faster but idk bout 1 min of clocktime for the whole match

[mighty stump]

Depends on who you ask

[solid frigate]

Im ass on it as well cuz sure i planned my moves in my brain mostly but i am not responsive lmao

[nocturne holly]

honestly that’d be so much fun because there are so many time stallers and then the two games open at once glitch which is annoying as fuck to play against

[mighty stump]

I think my limit is 5 bo1s and 3 bo3s as separate simultaneous games

[rustic mountain]

idk what its called but i remember in swsh some top players hit sd on the same account and took turns playing games (played till u lose then on to the next person and so forth) and that seemed like fun

[nocturne holly]

why.

[foggy lodge]

how

[rustic mountain]

ladder roulette or something

[nocturne holly]

I do like 3 bo1s and maybe 2 bo3s

[solid frigate]

bro took Multitasking to the next level

[rustic mountain]

u do 5 games at once?

[foggy lodge]

i can't

I only do one bo3

[rustic mountain]

i can do 1 bo3 nd 2 bo1 (not altogether) anything other then that im jus gna play sub optimally

[mighty stump]

Wdym why

Sometimes my opps take too long

[solid frigate]

if its that reason thats fair

[mighty stump]

So its 5 bo1s altogether

OR

3 bo3s

I think tyo did up to 7 once

for bo1s

[rustic mountain]

jesus

[mighty stump]

I think Keanu did 5 bo3s? could be misremembering

[rustic mountain]

and like winning?

[mighty stump]

I got used to it cause the stupid queue glitch

I mean you intend to win

Lol

I won all 5 of mine and then called it a day

[nocturne holly]

I just forget to go to the other games 💀

[rustic mountain]

yea i jus mean any1 can say oh i can do 3 bo5s but if ur losing 2 or some shit its kinda meh

prolly would win more otherwise in that case

[mighty stump]

I don’t do it regulsrly since I prefer focusing on one match at a time

[rustic mountain]

same

[mighty stump]

But I know thats how some people turboladder

[rustic mountain]

like u said if ppl take too long sure

otherwise its 1 game at a time haha

[rustic mountain]

i think at a certain point u just lose out on quality and miss things. i think if u wanna get to a certain point in the ladder though for practice its reasonable

[nocturne holly]

Same

Also what are the fast wispers in the format en

[mighty stump]

Yeah I agree

[nocturne holly]

Talon Ik

[mighty stump]

Cause I set aside focus and dedicated time

Cause throughout the day I don’t actually play that much as I used to

Since I can “play in my head” LOL

Addict behaviour

[rustic mountain]

[nocturne holly]

I honestly don’t mind waiting too long

Gives me time to check other stuff and go through what I wanna do next

Anyways pult makes this game so easy

[mighty stump]

I used to blow through like

What

500 games before the first week is up to investigate the format

[nocturne holly]

That’s a good idea a

[mighty stump]

Reg H blogpost also coming soon

😎

[nocturne holly]

I wish I had a team from reg a just to run through games

[bold geode]

Mfer quit being so quick

Actually nvm
Yours are more formal so go ahead

[craggy dagger]

meow-

[solid frigate]

meow

[bold geode]

@mighty stump this is probably the one time I regret not having a YouTube channel over blog cuz I have a dumb meme idea that would actually be a bit funny as the beginning of a Reg H meta analysis video

Just the fuckin uh what is it
Use the Rilla Ursh Incin core somehow to do the "Mr Stark, I don't feel so good" shit

[craggy dagger]

[solid frigate]

lmao

[chrome iron]

Myshifu

[mighty stump]

That’s funny

[mighty stump]

I’m not even that quick I’m a lot slower on blogposts atm

then again I was busy and the stuff said about Reg G has already been said

[bold geode]

I KNOW RIGHT
God I wish I could get it to work for a blog

Also yeah I see about blogpost
I got no excuse I've just been lazy

[solid frigate]

i still have to do the project about Reg H for my server but eh ill do it when i get a Computer

[violet kindle]

Hey torrent i want help

[solid frigate]

Uhhh why me?(Just asking)

[violet kindle]

Ur the pvp smartie

[solid frigate]

I’m mediocre compare to Tofu or stuff but just tell me what you asking

[violet kindle]

I wanna make a sun team! I have a concept but then i also realized I have 2 restricteds. So i have
Flutter
Walking wake
Hisui lilligant
Venasuar
Koraiodn
What can i add to replace groudon 😭

[bold geode]

Where's the 2nd restricted lmao

[violet kindle]

Was gonna use groudon

[bold geode]

Use like Chi Yu ez

[violet kindle]

Ooooo true

[bold geode]

That or Tornadus

[violet kindle]

Pretty good doubles battler

[solid frigate]

Koraidon,Raging Bolt and Incin are the Core for most Koraidon Teams you can also try to have Tornadus for a manual Sun Setter and Chi Yu to ABUSE THE SUN

[violet kindle]

Oh ya ragin!!

[bold geode]

Basically Chi Yu if you want damage
Incin if you want support
Tornadus if you want speed control and another sun setter

[solid frigate]

You can top it of with Flutter or even walking Wake(Walking Wake is mid tho for me)

[bold geode]

Also I think you swap Venusaur or Lilligant for something cuz they essentially do the same thing

[violet kindle]

Ya venasaur can go bye bye no cap

I never used walking wake 😭

[solid frigate]

Korai,Bolt,Incin,Tornadus,Chi Yu are the most common,you can try Lilligant

[solid frigate]

Water and Dragon Type that can work in sun

[violet kindle]

Ye

[bold geode]

Koraidon Wake ain't bad cuz Water is always good offensive type and Wake is also sorta your thing into Koraidon mirrors

[violet kindle]

Tera fire koraidon all day

[solid frigate]

or if you wanna be toxic mf

Use Scream Tail Booster Encore Disable

[violet kindle]

😂

Be a real pain