competitive_discussion

[next stump]

a little anti-synergy with arcanine's fire move isn't a huge deal and you can always swap peli out for a different speed control option

[nocturne holly]

Yeah ok thanks

[gentle crag]

.begulajr. has given 1 Gen Rep to mlbd

[nocturne holly]

Ima try harc with peli see if it’s that bad

Or would incin be better on this?

[zinc totem]

i wonder if feint gonna rise in use now in reg H

[solid frigate]

ehhhhh it depends but for me,dont see that much use

[craggy dagger]

feint?
doubt it

[torn parrot]

I feel like kommo is really good

I just realized it immune to sylveon hyper voice

😳

And she’s like the main fairy

I think

[chrome knot]

and then it clicks hyper beam

tho you usually use overcoat no?

[torn parrot]

I think all his abilities are pretty useful

Maybe not bulletproof as much right now tho

[nocturne holly]

Kommo can run all three tbh

Bullet proof and tera steel makes you a dengo counter

[torn parrot]

Ohhhhh

didn’t think about that

[chrome knot]

feel like you cant try to counter gholdengo as a body press user.

you have other pokemon for that lmfao

[nocturne holly]

well it’s not a counter but dengo can’t hit you at all

[torn parrot]

That’s tru
Tho he did get throat chop

So he can do a whole whopping 30%!!!!!

HYAAAAA

[nocturne holly]

And some kommo o have been running throat chop to hit

[craggy dagger]

overcoat for the

spore
Since you'll see more moongus than sylveon

[torn parrot]

I will say being immune to powder moves is kinda hype for a body press guy

[chrome iron]

Why'd it take generation 9 for mudsdale to get stone edge

Respect my damn horse god damnit!!!!!!

[nocturne holly]

Yeah it’s good

Komoo just has really solid abilities

[chrome knot]

can still click make it rain at you

[solid frigate]

i mean it got it finally so yey

[nocturne holly]

You can click throat chop into it

Tbh if you’re running kommo than you should have a way to deal with dengo

[chrome knot]

yeah

5 other potential teammates.

[nocturne holly]

Over coat is probably the better of the three abilities but all of them have their uses

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

https://tenor.com/view/pokémon-ogerpon-teal-mask-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-spin-gif-14149179464852236602

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

why are you BITING me

do you want mcdonalds

[slate hollow]

guys

should i have my dracovish in sw/sh hold a choice scarf or a metronome?

[next stump]

choice scarf for sure

[slate hollow]

what's worse about metronome?

[next stump]

I mean, I haven't played SWSH in literal years (and I assume you're also playing singles which I don't play) but Dracovish is not a fash pokemon

[craggy dagger]

its base 75

[next stump]

By the time you stack up the metronome item to a high amount, you're probably dead

you'd rather get off a few strong fast fishous rends

[slate hollow]

does metronome lower speed?

[craggy dagger]

tofu also said that metronome gives worst boosts than scarf x2 strong jaws

[craggy dagger]

didnt you ask this earlier???

[chrome knot]

why do they want swsh sets

[slate hollow]

don't gotta get hostile, dang

[craggy dagger]

hostile?

[chrome knot]

girl who couldn’t hurt a fly even if she wanted to being called hostile is kinda funny

[craggy dagger]

i could too-

[chrome knot]

you’re a little babeh

[craggy dagger]

grr-
fear meeee

[slate hollow]

i killed 27 children and crippled five

[chrome knot]

fear meee yet you literally look like this

[slate hollow]

wait i'm dumb
the choice scarf raises speed

i meant the choice band 💀

[craggy dagger]

[slate hollow]

guys

[chrome knot]

little bean girly

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

[solid frigate]

[torn parrot]

In my opinion all offensive glimmoras should be timid

Because timid glimmora’s make my gholdengo the most sad

[zinc totem]

ii wonder if alolan ninetales and ice body glaceon has potential for reg H

[craggy dagger]

snow cloak bright powder

or snow cloak specs
like that one articuno team from reg F but budget

[nocturne holly]

Stop

That was a nightmare to fight when it was like kinda popular

[craggy dagger]

it was horrible but like if people wanna use glaceon then

[solid frigate]

everything is almost Viable here sooooo

[nocturne holly]

Specs or scarf dengo

Ngl leaning towards scarf rn

[chrome knot]

me when i wanna use lurantis

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

its true shes fucking buns :<

[cosmic warren]

https://pokepast.es/4e62c1ea569e20a1

what do we think of this? just been messing around with it today

[timber falcon]

what items does primarina run?

[cosmic warren]

https://munchstats.com/gen9vgc2024regg/1760/Primarina

use this as a resource for mons

[timber falcon]

they dont have Reg H data

[solid frigate]

Throat Spray mostly

[craggy dagger]

[timber falcon]

aight ill try it out

[solid frigate]

I suddenly hate Zamazenta now

[timber falcon]

still in reg G?

[torn parrot]

@mighty stump wait I can’t put evs in the rental channel?

[solid frigate]

just doing some Cart ladder stuff

and i fucking lose to Mono Electric Team and Zamazenta

now i am in top 2000 again

[nocturne holly]

https://pokepast.es/94ba37f71b48b9be thoughts on last two slots? Had dengo but would gambit be better? Then I could maybe go for fari as the lady Mon?

[nocturne holly]

You have to put evs

[torn parrot]

Oh the wording broke my brain a little bit

[nocturne holly]

Lol

[dapper crag]

Talonflame's moveset:

Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Brave Bird, Double-Edge, Dual Wingbeat, Facade, Feint, Flail, Flame Charge, Flare Blitz, Fly, Frustration, Giga Impact, Natural Gift, Peck, Quick Attack, Return, Secret Power, Steel Wing, Tackle, Take Down, Temper Flare, Thief, U-turn, Upper Hand

Special Moves

Air Cutter, Air Slash, Ember, Fire Blast, Fire Spin, Flamethrower, Heat Wave, Hidden Power, Hurricane, Hyper Beam, Incinerate, Overheat, Razor Wind, Round, Snore, Solar Beam, Swift, Tera Blast

Status Moves

Agility, Attract, Bulk Up, Confide, Defog, Double Team, Endure, Feather Dance, Growl, Hone Claws, Me First, Protect, Quick Guard, Rain Dance, Rest, Roost, Sleep Talk, Snatch, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Swords Dance, Tailwind, Taunt, Toxic, Will-O-Wisp, Work Up

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Talonflame.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[nocturne holly]

YO IT GETS RAIN DANCE

It’s not prio but it’s anyways outspeeding everything else

[craggy dagger]

yeah

[nocturne holly]

is it better than murkrow tho

[solid frigate]

its so damn cursed seeing Talonflame uses it

[timber falcon]

why does a fire type deserve such a move

[nocturne holly]

Yea I didn’t know it got it either

But I have harc on my team so I don’t want to do peli and force rain

[chrome knot]

WOLFE LMFAO

[nocturne holly]

They nerfed gale wings so damn much

It was op but it should’ve been alike when over half hp

[dapper crag]

Arcanine-Hisui's moveset:

Physical Moves

Aerial Ace, Bite, Body Slam, Bulldoze, Close Combat, Covet, Crunch, Dig, Double Kick, Double-Edge, Extreme Speed, Facade, Fire Fang, Flame Charge, Flame Wheel, Flare Blitz, Giga Impact, Head Smash, Heat Crash, Iron Head, Outrage, Psychic Fangs, Raging Fury, Retaliate, Reversal, Rock Blast, Rock Slide, Rock Throw, Rock Tomb, Smack Down, Smart Strike, Stone Edge, Take Down, Temper Flare, Thief, Thrash, Thunder Fang, Wild Charge

Special Moves

Dragon Pulse, Ember, Fire Blast, Fire Spin, Flamethrower, Heat Wave, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Overheat, Power Gem, Scorching Sands, Snarl, Solar Beam, Tera Blast

Status Moves

Agility, Endure, Helping Hand, Howl, Leer, Morning Sun, Protect, Rest, Roar, Sandstorm, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Stealth Rock, Substitute, Sunny Day, Will-O-Wisp

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Arcanine-Hisui.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[nocturne holly]

Doesn’t get an pivot moves

[woeful epoch]

Archaludon & pelipper

[timber falcon]

surprise surpsrise, armourouge cheese is incosistent

however ive learned that hydreigon + redirection is nice

so i think ill start from there

maybe add moongus and try balance

[solid frigate]

Hydreigon Amoonguss and maybe Rain or Sun is ok for Hydreigon

[timber falcon]

why would i rly need weather though

i feel like the very first thing i should be thinking is how to stop specs dengo from ruining my day

[solid frigate]

Is not really needed but At least Slyveon MU is Better when they Tera Fire Tera Blast and you are Tera Steel

[timber falcon]

i plan on tera steel

cause more resistances

[solid frigate]

exactly.

Against H-Arc would be easier

And you dont have to worry about Ursalunas that much

[timber falcon]

i dont rly know if i should go fwg though

it feels a bit forced, as in idk why id really need it

[solid frigate]

its good to have,Tho you can try not to

usually i will go for it,Just need Better Partners for Hydreigon

i did think of Dragon Cheer Sceptile Before

[timber falcon]

leaves it vulnerable

[solid frigate]

Exactly,Thats why its just a Thought,tho Shed Tail Is a Good thing to have

[molten oasis]

[timber falcon]

who wouldve guessed

[molten oasis]

It’s almost like I tried to prevent the inevitable

[solid frigate]

Well

[molten oasis]

I did, then I let him feed into it cuz I didn’t care after he said he doesn’t play bo3

[timber falcon]

once i master bo1 then ill play bo3

[solid frigate]

honestly if you really want to Use Armarouge in a Non Cringe way(Which honestly there’s not really an Option)

Just go for the Psyspam Option with Decorate Alcremie or Smeragle

[timber falcon]

nah i lost interest

[solid frigate]

fair

i might Try Decorate Option with Boosts

[torn parrot]

What are we some kind of a suicide squad

Oh so basically we’re some kind of a suicide squad

I get it so we’re like a suicide squad

[timber falcon]

always with you and some completely random input

[solid frigate]

Maya what

[timber falcon]

like here

then like a few hours later you said you got your pizza

[solid frigate]

Give Maya some Pizza

[forest arrow]

might be troublesome, it worked for CIR bc it didnt need indeedee to use glacial lance

[solid frigate]

i mean

Its Calyrex so thats why

[forest arrow]

yeah but like

[solid frigate]

[forest arrow]

switching you lose momentum

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/MoxieBoosted/status/1819439394488549746?t=5CcSdFb4oXN0aH6UBBTNcQ&s=19

Marcos Perez ➡️ WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS (@MoxieBoosted) on X

Free my boy

Twitter · Aug 2, 2024, 6:25 PM

[solid frigate]

The fact that Iron Hands is just an Excuse In Competitive Pokemon

i rather 4x Weak to Fighting than Ground

and Sand Stream is better than Quark Drive in this sense

[torn parrot]

Basculegion really is strong
Theoretically it should cook in tournaments

It’s just so hard to stop with swift swim up or even a choice scarf

[craggy dagger]

scarf adaptability

it swift swim band

[solid frigate]

told ya

[torn parrot]

Nahh I knew the power of basc I believed you

[solid frigate]

i think Swift Swim Lorb/Band Basc is more popular cuz you can control the speed

[molten oasis]

this meme is so funny

[solid frigate]

I’m still thinking the formula

[next stump]

damn this new wolfey video is literally a movie

130 minutes long

[cyan smelt]

I wonder if bombirdier is viable now

[next stump]

https://tenor.com/view/no-its-not-nope-disagree-not-at-all-certainly-not-gif-15630051

[cyan smelt]

Damn

[solid frigate]

kek

[lyric dust]

On some teams it could be. And now for what I was going to ask, dose anyone know where to join unofficial tournaments.

[next stump]

https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournaments/upcoming?game=VGC&format=all&platform=all&type=online

That's for online unofficial tournaments, pretty much all in-person tournaments are official

[lyric dust]

Thank you I'll be looking

[fickle void]

Hey, could uhh any1 gimme some quick pointers and suggestions for my reg h team rq?

[lyric dust]

sure

[fickle void]

Kool

[next stump]

yeah just send a pokepaste in here and people will give their thoughts

[solid frigate]

Le paste

[fickle void]

I havent a clue as to how to get the link 💀 the button gives me a blank page

[next stump]

do you have a team filled out on showdown?

[fickle void]

Yuh

[next stump]

when you're in the teambuilder and you've selected that team, hitting the "Upload to PokePaste" button at the bottom should generate a link with that team's data on it

https://pokepast.es/64c0755d9a6de63e

like this

[fickle void]

I do that and it gives me this

https://pokepast.es/create

💀

[solid frigate]

can you just send the team via Image

[fickle void]

Surrrrrre

[next stump]

yeah if you can just screenshot the team in showdown that's fine

[solid frigate]

Pelipper could run either Covert Cloak to prevent Fake out or Focus Sash to Guarantee survive a Hit

But the EVs looks weird af

[fickle void]

Yeaaaah havent spent alot of time on evs, im down for suggestions:)

[solid frigate]

Lemme get my Fari Build

and Pelipper

Farigiraf @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Armor Tail
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 140 Def / 4 SpA / 112 SpD
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Hyper Voice/Psychic
• Dazzling Gleam
• Trick Room
• Protect

Pelipper @ Focus Sash
Ability: Drizzle
Level: 50
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Hurricane
• Weather Ball
• Wide Guard
• Tailwind/Protect

[next stump]

• Clodsire doesn't really do much in VGC. I see it's there as a water absorb pokemon with Haze for Dondozo, but I think there are better and more consistent answers to it.

• Araquanid set seems okay, consider Clear Amulet for getting around Incineroar and other intimidators

• Hatterene without Indeedee is really not worthwhile as a pokemon. It's losing out on a lot of value by not having that partnership. I think you could keep it on the team but I'd probably drop Clodsire for Indeedee if you're deadset on it.

• Pelipper moves are solid since Wide Guard is already on Araquanid, but rain isn't doing a lot for this team. It feels awkward to bring Pelipper and Araquanid to games since they're both slow and would need Trick Room to function, which means they can easily just stall out Trick Room and not let you get the board position that you want.

• Farig is not a good screens setter because it's so slow. I see the theory behind it because if you can Trick Room on turn 1, then you can set screens on turn 2 and faint to let something useful come onto the field. I just think you're better off running a more generally useful move like Helping Hand

• Kingambit set looks normal and solid, consider running Swords Dance in there over Iron Head but not a requirement at all

and then like was said, the EV spreads are not optimal but it sounds like they're kinda just randomly done anyway

[fickle void]

O:

Got the clod pick on the head btw XD

[solid frigate]

plus this feels very reliant on Trick Room to make this team running

[next stump]

Hahaha trust me I tried a couple years ago to get that thing to work in Reg A and it's just not great

You're better off using Milotic as a bulky Haze user, or Palafin as a more offensive one

[fickle void]

What could i do to fix that?

[craggy dagger]

but clodsire

water absorb against palafin, um-
what other water types are there in the meta

oh-
lumineon

[solid frigate]

having 2 modes,Since TR is your Main Mode,You can have 2-2-2 formula for your Team

2 that works only in TR,2 that works in either TR or TW,2 that works in TW only

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 457: Lumineon

Type

Water

Abilities

Swift Swim, Storm Drain, Water Veil (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

69/69/76/69/86/91

Total

460

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[molten oasis]

terrible stats lol

gastrodon

[solid frigate]

Storm Drain Tatsu and Gastro?

[craggy dagger]

it gets tailwing

[solid frigate]

ah yes Tailwing

[craggy dagger]

who runs storm drain tatsu?

[fickle void]

I may be stupid... What does tw mean

[solid frigate]

i mean its something

[solid frigate]

Tailwind

[craggy dagger]

tailwing (tailwind): flying type status move that doubles all allies speed for 4 turns

[fickle void]

O ok

[solid frigate]

if you wanna use Pelipper, Archaludon is a Good Partner in Tailwind or in TR depend on the matchups

[fickle void]

Noted

[craggy dagger]

scarf tailwind adaptability tera dark crunch basculegion M

[molten oasis]

Hey guys

[craggy dagger]

hellou drago

[solid frigate]

Nova do it for the homies

[solid frigate]

hoi drago

[craggy dagger]

already did is the thing
i wouldn’t be saying otherwise

way back when

[solid frigate]

do it again

[craggy dagger]

in reg D, E and F

[bold geode]

Hai bestie
Me tired 😭

[fickle void]

But uh thanks yalls

[solid frigate]

but seriously Basculegion hits so damn Hard fr

[craggy dagger]

scarf sucks but like
the x2 adaptability plus rain wave crash was able to ohko almost anything

[molten oasis]

What’s a good Mon to outspeed and consistently OHKO maushold?

[craggy dagger]

final gambit smeargle

[molten oasis]

No

Ideally not a fighting move cuz I think some go Tera ghost

[solid frigate]

I’m literally thinking of Dragapult but idek

like 111 speed in this format is ahrd to outspeed

[next stump]

are you mostly worried about MausApe?

[lyric dust]

while we are doing this can I post my pokepaste and give some help its reg H?

[solid frigate]

Whims Tailwind?

[solid frigate]

yea

[lyric dust]

thanks https://pokepast.es/6d196b93169ac9b6

[solid frigate]

not the Smeragle.

[lyric dust]

why?

[solid frigate]

no i just hate it

but Air Balloon Dengo is not the way

[lyric dust]

I hate fighting Smeragle but its to good, speed control and follow me and sweeping it dose it all.

[chrome knot]

@next stump ive learnt that maus is more fun of an attacker than it is setting up ape

[solid frigate]

The sets and EVs looks so wrong as well

Incin with Max attack?

[lyric dust]

Its a very weard Incin I'll give you that.

[craggy dagger]

welcome to the club emma

[chrome knot]

children bomb is awesome

[solid frigate]

Kill it by sending Children to war

[craggy dagger]

honestly if you really want to ohko maus (since some run sash iirc) you can always poke at it with blood moon or a setup to ohko scenario-
but if you’re worried about mausape then get rid of the ape asap before you do anything :0

[next stump]

• Air Ballon Ghold in VGC is interesting, I get the idea behind it but I feel like you're better off just using a defensive tera to get around EQ. Having an EQ partner can be nice but you could also not run EQ on Bax.

• Bax set is cool, I haven't seen band but I like it with the speed control you have. Ice Shard as your only Ice attack is pretty sus though, you'll probably want Icicle Crash for more consistent damage and to avoid being walled by things that block priority.

• 252ATK Incin is wild, but the moves make sense. Drop U-Turn for Parting Shot unless you're running Assault Vest.

• Whims EVs are weird but the moves are pretty standard. I don't think you can run 0 attack whims reliably though, you'll really want to drop maybe helping hand for moonblast

• Maus is standard Pop Bomb stuff but you want protect for opposing fake out. You already have Encore on Whims (and helping hand) so drop one of those for protect.

• Smeargle wants Ghost Tera to get around Fake Out. You could also consider Fake Out, Wide Guard, or Spore over Sticky Web since you already have Tailwind on the team

[solid frigate]

or just Ya know,have a Prankster Tailwind

[next stump]

The team looks like a singles team in the sense that it seems almost entirely built around offense with very little pivoting and defensive options on it. Very few protects can be tough to navigate in VGC

[chrome knot]

@craggy dagger is ur status true

[craggy dagger]

hyper offense teams usually specialize in that but the most important move (imo) in vgc is protect since it allows you to scout out your opponent if you don’t know, or make a crucial sacrifice while protecting the other mon

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

pls..

[craggy dagger]

what status-

[solid frigate]

if you wanna play VGC you kinda have to throw some Singles Habit away cuz it really hurts your long run

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

1. are you okay
2. how do you even manage that
3. i cant stop giggling at ur expense like

[craggy dagger]

i’m more upset cause i dropped my food

[chrome knot]

LMFAOO

Of course

[solid frigate]

this is true in this Format

(I’m talking about you Urshifu)

[molten oasis]

My mu into mausape feels kinda rough yea

https://pokepast.es/39a757b03b5ed0f0 this is my team rn

[next stump]

yeah that team is just mausape fodder

[craggy dagger]

it’s why urshifu was considered “broken”
not necessarily the guaranteed crits but rather the getting through protects-
though in gen 8
max guard would prevent unseen fist so

[molten oasis]

I like the first 4 that’s my core, then a9 is encore for dozo/speed control/weather control

[chrome knot]

did it make a funny sound when u hit it

[molten oasis]

Idk what to do about slot 6 tho so I’m looking for mausape answers

[tranquil kraken]

hi comp chat

[craggy dagger]

iliiiiiii

[molten oasis]

Yep

[solid frigate]

yeah cuz always get Crit isnt that bad but Break protect ruins the fundamentals or Pokemon competitve

[next stump]

back in Reg A and B I was running Mirror Herb tauros to punish MausApe leads

you could consider something like that

otherwise I don't think there is much this 6 can do against MausApe easily

you can get screens up which helps, but that's kinda it

[molten oasis]

Yea, idk what to change if anything, the 6th has been eh

Tauros could work but I’d want Tauros over harc right?

[craggy dagger]

you can consider a fighting type move-
like close combat on arcanine?
or perhaps um-
focus miss-
hydra

[lyric dust]

Thank you for the feedback change tera for smergul, protect for maus, and gave whims dazzling gleam, gave bax icicle crash.

[gentle crag]

pizzaking55 has given 1 Gen Rep to mlbd

[solid frigate]

honestly i might run Hydreigon Dragon Cheer Team just for the luls

[molten oasis]

I’m not running focus miss

It’s in the name why

[craggy dagger]

focus miss hydra is a joke
but like you can try dragon tail utility

[solid frigate]

Bros having Zacian PTSD

[molten oasis]

Maybe I need to rework the team again

[lyric dust]

Also dose anyone have a reg H team they would like to try in showdown

[solid frigate]

I’m still experimenting these

[molten oasis]

Prima thing really seems like rilla/harc stuff huh

The Prima FWG core seems to be that

[lyric dust]

you need another rain setter for the rain team

[molten oasis]

What?

[solid frigate]

i think thats like the Variant of it in this Format

[molten oasis]

No you don’t lol

[solid frigate]

Ok lemme bring my kyogre OH WAIT ITS BANNED

[lyric dust]

dude I know.

[solid frigate]

you don’t really need Another Rain setter when Peli is just that good

[molten oasis]

I’m gonna take it no one knows how to patch up the mausape mu then

[craggy dagger]

you can also consider um
brick break gambit

or iron head gambit

if you don’t want a fighting type move and want stab instead

[next stump]

I genuinely don't think it's possible to turn it into a winning matchup with your 6

[molten oasis]

I’m gonna get punched lol

[next stump]

unless you do something like Choice Scarf Hydreigon

everything is too slow

[molten oasis]

Time to rework the team

Everytime man

[charred saddle]

i fucking hate you and your ground koraidon, ground fucking fairy genie, ground pelipper TERA FUCKING BLAST

[craggy dagger]

if you’re willing to set up calm minds then you should be fine though

[charred saddle]

i lost 3 to fucking weird ground teras.

[molten oasis]

It’s that 1 thing i didn’t accommodate for and now im paying the price

[solid frigate]

Insert Drago’s Team gets fucking Punched by Ape and Palafin

[molten oasis]

Every damn time

[craggy dagger]

you can also run a redirect :0

[solid frigate]

thats literally me when i lost to a Mono Electric Team and Zamazenta

[molten oasis]

Teams too slow I can’t fix that

[craggy dagger]

something like magby/buzz

for static or flame body

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/mocking-angry-smash-table-gif-16395319

[craggy dagger]

why-

[molten oasis]

Cuz I feel like a garbage team builder

[charred saddle]

buzz can run vital to avoid spores

tbh most of us do

[molten oasis]

Every single time I make a team I try to accommodate for the mu’s my main guy is weak to and I ALWAYS MISS SOMETHING COMMON

[solid frigate]

i mean….
its just everyone still building teams

I am still struggling to build one that is Highly consistent

[molten oasis]

Be it fucking dondozo or mausape or palance

[solid frigate]

Thats why i bring Meowscarada i guess-

[craggy dagger]

you patch it up with static eviolite buzz

[molten oasis]

the static has to proc

[craggy dagger]

it’ll proc-
half the time

[molten oasis]

and my rng is worse then my teambuilding skills

[craggy dagger]

oh

[solid frigate]

i might as well try to make a Team with Peli Archa Basc-

Me in an Ice Cube:

[craggy dagger]

ta daaaa

https://pokepast.es/45f2ace85d64ca6f

static carried me

[solid frigate]

isn’t that like,What everybody is kinda fustrated on?

Like dude i still hate Ursaluna MU and i am still just have to deal with it

[craggy dagger]

archa dengo walls my team that i just posted

and there’s-
archaludon
everywhere

[charred saddle]

because theres no point on showing ur frustration like a kid on a discussion thread?

[solid frigate]

i deep down fustrated on it

Like Ursaluna just fucking Killing my teams

[craggy dagger]

[solid frigate]

oml….

[craggy dagger]

leooooo
whyyy

doesn’t everyone though-

anyways

[solid frigate]

I really want to type some shit up but nevermind

[craggy dagger]

um
any way to fix my archa/dengo Mu with this team

https://pokepast.es/45f2ace85d64ca6f

[molten oasis]

Well forget it I lost my shit once again

[chrome knot]

if u find ways to setup primarina early its no issue i think?

[solid frigate]

Incin kinda deals with Dengo,tho against Archaludon…

You have High Horsepower on Rilla so its technically fine,Plus Emma is right on the Primarina

[dense latch]

https://pokepast.es/709698d6e1da34ee what should I run as gholdengo's 4th move? I'm split between dazzling gleam, trick and focus blast

[lyric dust]

dazzling gleam

[solid frigate]

depends if you wanna Beat Dragons even harder or trolling

usually i would not run Focus Blast

[lyric dust]

same

[dense latch]

I don't trust focus blast much either, but I felt it was at least worth considering

[molten oasis]

Don’t ping me even if it’s important or it’s something I’d appreciate

[next stump]

I think with CC and Body Press on the team you dont need focus blast

I would personally start testing with Trick because I don't think Gleam adds a ton of useful converage for you

[solid frigate]

besides it miss every time

for focus miss

[dense latch]

I liked dazzling gleam since it 2HKOs annihilape which helps when maushold's redirecting + help with dragon types, I'll test them both after I'm done with calcs

[rustic mountain]

u know ur not gna be able to cover absolutely everything right? thats just a fact of team building u jus cover as much as u can and rn its hard to gauge whats the most optimal to cover for cuz its day 3 of a format that really doesnt exist yet in the technical sense

[molten oasis]

What part of don’t ping me did you miss? Plz just leave me alone right now

[solid frigate]

[chrome knot]

i hate to be that person but sometimes the solution to a matchup is to play better

[next stump]

I get that for sure, I was just thinking that Bax already is weak to MIR. Hydreigon definitely doesn't want to tank the 4x move though so I can see it being super helpful there

[rustic mountain]

i obviously didnt see that part wen i responded, i think you genuinely should just not play vgc dude, ur mental seems too fragile sorry

every day its something else

like it gets old, theres a constant there somewhere ill let u figure out wat it is

[dense latch]

also trick could be nice against TR setters and to inhabiliate maushold

[molten oasis]

I’m a broken person I have lots of things to work on

I need therapy, k? Leave me be

[rustic mountain]

[solid frigate]

anyways

i might also break from VGC and focus on my Job,I like the concept of this format but i just have the same issue with Teambuild,Which i get it,it’s Volatile

[chrome knot]

interesting character ._.

[tranquil kraken]

new wolfe vid i can fall asleep on

[rustic mountain]

rl > vgc

[solid frigate]

1.5 Hours Lets gooo

[tranquil kraken]

[dense latch]

it's a really well made video even at wolfe's standards

[rustic mountain]

i also dont think the formats that volatile i think its just early meta adjustment everyones figuring out wats good still

[tranquil kraken]

is the next major event worlds?

[rustic mountain]

yes

[tranquil kraken]

nice excited to watch it

[solid frigate]

Yeah exactly,I wanna Focus on my job to be useful and my thoughts are not thinking right

[rustic mountain]

wise decision imo

sometimes its good to take a step back

[solid frigate]

CSR or Miraidon might be the main ones to win,Terapagos could be top 8 tho

[solid frigate]

yeah,I will still be here playing but not as much

[rustic mountain]

ive been trying to play more mons lately cuz the past cppl months i barely have played

[tranquil kraken]

i'll manifest a eviolite charcadet W

[forest arrow]

I just came back from focusing on work and I’m having so much fun playing. The break was honestly needed

[solid frigate]

DO IT FOR THE FANS

[dense latch]

I'm excited to see some interesting tech competitors may have been hiding

[rustic mountain]

yea it can be refreshing

ive taken months off before ive taken a week off, it all depends

[solid frigate]

i meam i got burnt after i made Terapagos Into Master Ball Twice so yeah might take a break in Reg H

[dense latch]

welcome back

[rustic mountain]

reg h is gna be fun for the first 2 months then everyones gna want the next thing

[dense latch]

I've only just came back from a 2 year break too

[forest arrow]

Yeah for sure usually just take a week or two, but I took a good month and half to myself, reg h is gonna be fun, it’s series 1 with the dlc toys

[rustic mountain]

yea basically reg a +

[torn parrot]

Seems like when the format is new the best thing is to be aggressive

And not defensive

[forest arrow]

Take a break now so when reg H actually starts

[solid frigate]

My Brain Rn

[rustic mountain]

always the way it usually goes

then itll go into bulkier/balance stuff once ppl figure out the format

[solid frigate]

Yeah Me climbed into Master Ball with Terapagos is already tiresome so yeah

[rustic mountain]

and then some ho popping up again towards the end of the format

to counter common balance

[torn parrot]

Yeye 👍

[solid frigate]

[rustic mountain]

ive been trying banded pult on palance

[forest arrow]

Yeah rn it’s Palance, Arch Rain, Mausape, Hard Tr Psyspam

[rustic mountain]

been good

hydreigon was good too, arch felt the worst idk if i jus dont know how to play it lmao

[forest arrow]

It’s a better hoodra

In a sense

[torn parrot]

He’s a pretty scary guy gotta say
Always seems to live a lot longer than I want him to

[rustic mountain]

i understand its functionality. id say its much more versatile then hoodra

but idk it jus felt very targetted

[torn parrot]

Oh wait wrong mon

AUTO CORRECT

[solid frigate]

i think Palabalance can be infuse with Rain Archa depend on the Pokémon

[solid frigate]

we literally confused why people uses it lmao

[torn parrot]

Archaludon seems to live a lot longer than I want him to is what I meant

[forest arrow]

Yeah fs fighting isnt really prevelant besides Ape mostly so it’s having a good time atm

[charred saddle]

https://pokepast.es/7eb6bce0f243173d

what do you think

[dense latch]

crazy how we went from almost no steel types in reg g to steel domination in the following format

[rustic mountain]

its good i think. my team specifically has a tough time w/ it which is why i opted for band pult w/ hh peli. banded tera blast 1hkos most unboosted arch unless they are extremely invested

[charred saddle]

havent tried it but i might take away ghold or gambbit and change one of them

[fickle void]

What kinda items do archaludons hold

[charred saddle]

shouldve gone for fire tera boom, forgot aout that

[forest arrow]

Av mostly

[solid frigate]

Archaludon is my GOAT in VGC,Even Basc and Pagos can’t Beat the Goat

[dense latch]

av

[fickle void]

Huh

[forest arrow]

Assault vest

[fickle void]

Any uhhh other item?

[torn parrot]

Power herb? Lol

[fickle void]

Assault vest is in use

[solid frigate]

most of the time Archaludon run 252 HP 4 Def and 180 SpD

[fickle void]

Rain team ._.

[solid frigate]

yeah thats the only item i can think of that works

[forest arrow]

What’s the team

[dense latch]

what do you have AV on?

[fickle void]

A raichu lol

[forest arrow]

Bro no

[torn parrot]

Any sash on your team?

[fickle void]

Peli

[torn parrot]

hmmgh

[rustic mountain]

raichu benefits from strong electric types which rn there are none

[dense latch]

You'll get much better value from AV on Arch imo

[fickle void]

I could prolly nab a diff item for rai

[torn parrot]

You know that is a fantastic point

[forest arrow]

Yeah gives AV to arch

[charred saddle]

cough miraidon cough

[torn parrot]

I did raichu in kitikami and I was like
Damn why do I have lightning rod again

[rustic mountain]

haha

yea stuff like gastro and raichu are only as good as the types they counter in the format

[charred saddle]

tree tree

https://pokepast.es/7eb6bce0f243173d
hows this

[rustic mountain]

seems solid

[charred saddle]

i was thinking gastro can deal with lots of stuff like arch palafin and ape, just that idk if it has enough damage all around

and idk if ragefist kills it

[rustic mountain]

prolly yea

[charred saddle]

im thinking yawn can help but its still a 2 turn pressure

[rustic mountain]

i think gastro is ok. like sure palafin is common but idk it does enough still

its worth trying out

lower power lvl means more stuff has a chance of working

[dense latch]

what should I EV my incineroar to survive?

[rustic mountain]

stuff u feel like is common that ud want to live

calcs come from testing/playing or knowing whats common in the format

[charred saddle]

i uhh yoink calcs

[rustic mountain]

i mainly go off vibes

[torn parrot]

You could probably just do something simple for now

[rustic mountain]

(dont go off vibes)

[fickle void]

Usin some of the advice you have given me i have completed changed my team except for 2 mons into a 2/2/2 thingy with the tw whatever tr yuh

[next stump]

look at -1 Palafin calcs, Annihilape +1 calcs, Pelipper in rain calcs, etc.

[torn parrot]

Araquanid is pretty scary I’m ngl

[rustic mountain]

we were talkin about it yday

i think it has merit. tofu thinks it sucks haha

[fickle void]

Fun fact, it drowns its prey then rips it apart and eats it.

:)

[rustic mountain]

[fickle void]

Dont look at me look at pokedex

[rustic mountain]

im lookin at u for relaying the info from the pokedex

[solid frigate]

it does look better than the last team,Spirittomb is interesting choice

[fickle void]

Rebuilding the team with dillons advice too.

[fickle void]

GAH

[foggy lodge]

So i was thinking about Metagross

[fickle void]

I may... Just be bad at team building ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Its fun tho

[solid frigate]

everyone starts in somewhere

[torn parrot]

I’m not sure how araquanid could suck
That ability is disgusting

And it’s not even weak to rillaboom

[foggy lodge]

But i haven't found any good match up for it or role to justify it's use xd

[solid frigate]

Metagross GOATED

[rustic mountain]

stop thinking about metagross

[solid frigate]

i think just as a screen breaker is fine

[foggy lodge]

[rustic mountain]

more or less wat i said

[dapper crag]

Ability: Water Bubble

This Pokemon's offensive stat is doubled while using a Water-type attack. If a Pokemon uses a Fire-type attack against this Pokemon, that Pokemon's offensive stat is halved when calculating the damage to this Pokemon. This Pokemon cannot be burned. Gaining this Ability while burned cures it.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[rustic mountain]

i think on a tr comp it can b more then serviceable especially next to bm

[torn parrot]

Trick room rain araquanid sounds really fun

[fickle void]

Sad part is i started gen 5 💀 😭 🫠

[rustic mountain]

idt u even need rain but yea that could be strong

[fickle void]

I may be doomed

[solid frigate]

The Only thing i can see Metagross works besides Blowing Itself up is Psychic Fangs Screen Breaker

[rustic mountain]

which arent even common

[dense latch]

https://pokepast.es/f63bd8da7c0bca5b how is this looking?

[rustic mountain]

i think metagross is bottom tier psuedo choice atm, reg goodra would be the worst

[dense latch]

Once I test some more I might switch up meowscarada's EVs

[fickle void]

Wait... Did i just put protect on a av archaludon...

[solid frigate]

it really depends on the Meta,Metagross still feels nice to have in certain cases but in this Reg,Hydreigon,Pult,T-Tar and Bax are the best ones

[fickle minnow]

I really hope we see Metagross in Legends AZ tbh

[rustic mountain]

i love metagross so id like that

[forest arrow]

Meowscarda is usually just max max not much you can change there

[fickle minnow]

I wonder if Gen 10 will just have Mega Evolutions again, I hope it does

[torn parrot]

Hopefully

[rustic mountain]

it seems ok. i feel like shroom over scarada is just better but other then that seems solid enough

or rilla

[fickle void]

... Hey torrent... Would an araquanid trick room team no rain set up maybe work?

[dense latch]

got it, thanks for the feedback

[gentle crag]

eriksp has given 1 Gen Rep to treeco.

[rustic mountain]

np

[fickle void]

Oh forgot bout that

[fickle void]

Sausage

[solid frigate]

It can,But just rain would have Extra Bonus

[fickle void]

Didnt work...

[fickle minnow]

I used to play comp a lot in like Gen 6-7, I don't really know this new meta all too well. I know that Heavy-Duty Boots are busted, and Kingambit and Gholdengo are insanely strong

[dense latch]

lol that's happened to me too many times

[fickle void]

Ive been at this for a while now ive hit nothing but walls

[fickle minnow]

My initial gut reaction to those two is that they should be banned, but I don't play the tier, so please understand that opinion has no merit, and if someone who does play disagrees, I'd be very curious to hear why

[fickle void]

Rep give

[solid frigate]

thats is singles stuff most likely

[fickle void]

Darn... How do i do it?

[fickle minnow]

Yeah, I meant in singles, were we having a VGC discussion?

[dense latch]

yep

[torn parrot]

Maybe you can don’t need all 3 basculegion araquanid and archaludon

[fickle minnow]

Ah my bad for getting mixed up

[chrome knot]

this chat is all vgc gang

[solid frigate]

Heavy Duty Boots are quite Useless in VGC

[dense latch]

all good

[fickle minnow]

I have played doubles once in Gen 9 in a draft league

And I stomped my first two games using Tapu Lele and Armarouge for crazy spread DPS

I think I also had a Trick Room mode for one game? I won two games, and lost all the others

[forest arrow]

Lele isn’t in the game

[solid frigate]

Yeah its Indeedee Armarouge

[fickle minnow]

The Draft League was NatDex iirc, I have very little knowledge of doubles and VGC in general

I am a singles player, but doubles seems really cool and interesting

I know like Incineroar and Rilla are really good in doubles, Amoonguss is just always crazy too

What do people usually do for Water types nowadays?

[dense latch]

urshifu when it's legal, rn it's dondozo and palafin as the main threats

primarina too

[dapper crag]

Item: Heavy-Duty Boots

When switching in, the holder is unaffected by hazards on its side of the field.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[fickle minnow]

I do still have to decide what form I'm gonna evolve my Urshifu into, I don't think I've gotten my Shield DLC's Kubfu

[solid frigate]

and yes stop saying is Greninja cuz Greninja kinda sucks in Doubles anyways

[dense latch]

you can always get two Kubfu if you get the SWSH and SV dlc

[cyan smelt]

Pelipper and water tauros are ok too

[dense latch]

but at least in VGC water urshifu is superior

[fickle minnow]

I'm not planning on buying SV's DLC

[solid frigate]

Sad Pagos

[fickle minnow]

The game has caused me to feel pretty bad motion sickness with the bugs I ran into

And like I still shiny hunt on it a lot, the shaders just have given me such bad headaches, and the lack of a patch to fix that has me not wanting to support the game further

[dense latch]

fair enough

[solid frigate]

i am fucking glad i bought the DLC,idm that much i rarely encountered the bugs but the games Story is 2nd Best in Mainline,and i would say

DLC really redeemed SV

[fickle minnow]

Granted, if you guys have a more positive experience of the generation than me, that's a good thing

If there weren't these constant performance problems, I'd say Gen 9 is the best generation we've had in like 10 years

[dense latch]

I hated that SV's story was overshadowed by the performance issues

[ornate elk]

I had 0 bug on my whole playtrhough so i had fun

[fickle minnow]

Yeah, the story is legitimately really good, the twist caught me off guard

[solid frigate]

Since when this becomes a General chat-

[craggy dagger]

doesn’t steel resist-
water-
at least archa does and the archa peli lead squashes my team

[ornate elk]

Since we decided too

[solid frigate]

No Water Resist Steel for some reason

[fickle minnow]

Oh right Archaludon's new evo is really good

[cyan smelt]

Dragon resists water

[fickle minnow]

Oh my goodness, I didn't know it had 600 BST

Would you guys say Rain is the main hyper-offense meta in VGC?

[craggy dagger]

archa peli leads are the bane of my existence-
kommo falls to hurricane draco meteor body press (when terad) incin just dies-
rilla dies to hurricane
prim dies to electro shot

[chrome knot]

@craggy dagger look pms I finished up stuf for locals

[solid frigate]

kek

[dense latch]

if you can't beat them...

[craggy dagger]

no i’m not joining cause this is the first time i’ve got a solid team going

[chrome knot]

consider maushold to nuke pelipper

@craggy dagger gimme ur team ill play games with it

[dense latch]

I'd like to see the team too

[next stump]

https://tenor.com/view/yanatwt-gif-22814884

me watching you guys play Reg H while i am stuck with Reg G for 2 more weeks

[terse plaza]

anyone got any good reg h palafin teams?

[dense latch]

https://labmaus.net/tournaments/2379 there's OTS teams here from a recent online tour

[balmy glen]

I have a cup right after worlds so I have 3 weeks lul

[mighty stump]

Reg H?

[mighty stump]

Lol OPL stuff

[dense latch]

https://pokepast.es/ca583fa304cce7b8 feel like I'm lacking protect on this team, should I drop choice specs on dengo or band on meowscarada (or just leave it as is)

[dull ibex]

I dropped incin for farig

I enjoy having it more for priority denial and trick room resetting

[balmy glen]

Reg g

[nocturne holly]

Sash or cloak on Talonflame

[cyan smelt]

Cloak

That way you don't need ghost tera

[nocturne holly]

Yeah tera with talon in most cases is a waste

But sash is pretty good survivabikit6 for i5

[cyan smelt]

Try sash then

You can always run quick guard

[nocturne holly]

I’m running rain dance on it lol

Also kommo is a bitch in CTS

[cyan smelt]

True

[nocturne holly]

can’t tell if it’s clangorous soul or idbp

[cyan smelt]

Clanging scales hurts

And tera steel is a pain to deal with

[mighty stump]

Clanging is arguably the worse variant

Does like no damage

[nocturne holly]

Especially after you trick specs onto it😭

I should not trick onto kommo

[cyan smelt]

Gholdengo trick specs is super annoying lol

[mighty stump]

Only Trick if you're faster lol

[nocturne holly]

But if is idbp it puts me a head a ton

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 784: Kommo-o

Types

Dragon/Fighting

Abilities

Bulletproof, Soundproof, Overcoat (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

75/110/125/100/105/85

Total

600

Other Formes

Kommo-o-Totem

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[mighty stump]

The easiest way to tell is if it's paired with redirection

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 1000: Gholdengo

Types

Steel/Ghost

Abilities

Good as Gold

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

87/60/95/133/91/84

Total

550

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[mighty stump]

It's likely to be Clangorous Soul

[cyan smelt]

Is it usually bulletproof or soundproof

[mighty stump]

Overcoat

[cyan smelt]

Oh

[nocturne holly]

Yea I think the one I went against had clef and sinistcha

[mighty stump]

Lol

That's just Wolfe's team...

[nocturne holly]

Bro I don’t remember that

[mighty stump]

Haha bro forgor

[cyan smelt]

Hi torrent how's the basculegion team going

[solid frigate]

welp first day at work so you don’t see me till very late for my time

[nocturne holly]

I forgor

[solid frigate]

not testing cuz i am focusing on my job

[cyan smelt]

Fair

[mighty stump]

Bro has a job

[solid frigate]

Forced to.

but honestly its a good time to take a break from VGC

[cyan smelt]

It's better to be working than not working let me tell you that

[solid frigate]

yep

[mighty stump]

I agree

I got a job and suddeny I'm less mentally ill!

[dull ibex]

Im a little fustrastred by my playing

[solid frigate]

basically

[cyan smelt]

The top vgc players all have other stuff going on for them

[mighty stump]

What's up

[mighty stump]

Like...job wise?

[dull ibex]

ive been losing nonstop

[cyan smelt]

Yeah or working towards a good career, I know Cybertron was/is in college for something

[dull ibex]

I dont think I understand how to make a gameplan and im very tunnel visioned

[dense latch]

https://x.com/CybertronVGC/status/1802447814406091055 he was

Aaron "Cybertron" Zheng (@CybertronVGC) on X

I graduated from the Stanford Graduate School of Business this weekend!

Coming here was a dream come true. A huge thank you to my family, who sacrificed so much to immigrate to America to give me these opportunities, and to you - Pokémon changed my life and is why I’m here 💙

Twitter · Jun 16, 2024, 9:07 PM

[mighty stump]

It's basically making a set of expected interactions and how you plan on playing, and figuring out what board state you're intending to actually achieve

[dull ibex]

No Like i get the concept but execution is rough

[solid frigate]

i need to have a job while also being tasked to go to Uni which sorta expected from an Asian Household

[cyan smelt]

Damn, from Stanford too, that's insane

[mighty stump]

That sounds very different

My parents would scold me for thinking about a job while in university

Cause I should be focusing on my studies

Cause they worked so hard to give me what I need why am I wasting time looking for extra money instead of studying for my future

[solid frigate]

yeah ik.thats why I’m not in Uni Yet

[cyan smelt]

Uni was so stressful for me that I got a mental health condition from it

[solid frigate]

im 18 and i have to do A Levels next School Year

[mighty stump]

oh

lol

A-Levels r ez

Rote learning and past papers give you like everything you need

[dull ibex]

I also find myself getting overwhelmed facing rain teams

[solid frigate]

Yeah thats like my thing back in GCSE so i am chillin

[mighty stump]

I think I did every single past paper in the previous 15 years

for my subjects

[solid frigate]

Thats-

[dense latch]

I hated GCSEs

[solid frigate]

overkill but get the job done

[mighty stump]

Well I only had Bio/Chem/Phys

I was bored and I had nothing to do

[solid frigate]

its Aight honestly

[mighty stump]

I had a B-C grade average for GCSEs but I still got into vet school so hey

[mighty stump]

Time to figure out something against Archaludon

[dense latch]

yeah, the content wasn't horrible but my teachers actually sucked ass

[mighty stump]

Yeah that was the main thing

[dull ibex]

fair

[solid frigate]

Thank god my Teachers ain’t suckass

[dense latch]

I still almost got an A average but I had to relearn everything basically

My Computer Science teacher knew less about the course than us

[mighty stump]

I just gave up and fought with the teachers

[solid frigate]

I’m gonna try to just do what i can honestly

[cyan smelt]

Be grateful that you know what you want to do early in life, it's taken me a bit longer to find that out

[mighty stump]

True

[solid frigate]

mhm

[mighty stump]

I only entered my job space cause I didn't know what else I would do and just wanted a stable job

[solid frigate]

imagine i use My School’s Computers to do VGC stuff for no reason

[dense latch]

there was one kid at my school that would only play showdown during class

[solid frigate]

only to realise thats the moment when i made Pagos Cress team

yeah don’t know why i thought about it in School

[solid frigate]

i just look at the teambuilder honestly

[mighty stump]

Honestly I'm mostly upset COVID took most of my uni-life away

And I miss the ease of high school

Life was so uncomplicated

[solid frigate]

Same with my Secondary School times

[fickle minnow]

I’m currently taking some time to work on myself mentally before going back to school. A cleaner head will result in a better plan

I’m considering learning electronics, I bet that there’s quite a decent amount of jobs that would open up if I learned electrical engineering

[mighty stump]

People should definitely prioritise jobs that can give them a stable livelihood.

If I ever decide to have kids I hope I earn enough so they can pursue whatever they want though.

[fickle minnow]

I don’t think I want kids. Granted, I know my mind might change when I get older, but at the moment, I think I’m gonna aim for a D.I.N.K. situation

[mighty stump]

That's me at the moment.

My partner wants kids in the future though, so I'm thinking about it

[fickle minnow]

Yeah, obviously I recognize that the right person might change my mind, but I have a lot of concerns that would need to be looked into and addressed

A big thing is that I’m pretty sure I have some genetic stuff going on, and I don’t wanna pass that down. I’d be much more likely to consider adopting, personally

[mighty stump]

Understandable.

[cyan smelt]

It's hard finding a partner when you're on the spectrum

[fickle minnow]

But even then, I just kinda don’t know if being a dad is the right fit for me. Again, as I work on myself, that might change, but I don’t see it being what I want, at least not now

[fickle minnow]

Dude, I struggle so hard with flirting

[mighty stump]

I'm not on the spectrum, I just don't do mixed signals/refuse to play off interpretation

[fickle minnow]

It’s actually so difficult, like I’m constantly worried that I come off as creepy, but I’m just trying to be relatable and fun

[mighty stump]

Hence dating apps worked for me the best. You already establish interest

[cyan smelt]

I got multiple things going on that I definitely don't want to pass down

[fickle minnow]

I definitely want a partner that communicates clearly about those types of social things

Again, I’m trying my hardest to work on myself, it’s hard to recognize problems if people don’t tell you what you’re doing wrong, y’know?

[mighty stump]

I do have to say, people's ideas of clear communication are different as well

The most important quality isn't the communication, but grace

[solid frigate]

Exactly

[fickle minnow]

That is true, very good way of putting it

[mighty stump]

The kindness and the patience and a gentle quality to give grace to one another while working on, well, anything

[cyan smelt]

It's not enough to be nice btw it's about being confident and you can be confident without being arrogant

[solid frigate]

the fact my ex said broke up but still want me to teach her Competitive Pokemon-

I don’t know why and how but thats fine i guess

[mighty stump]

Clarity without kindness can be misconstrued and be just as harmful, but in the same sense it's not your job to also control how the other person interprets your words if you've said essentially nothing wrong

[fickle minnow]

Yeah, I’m trying really hard to improve my confidence. I’ve been working out a lot more, improving myself, I’ve just gotta get acclimated to my new situation and get a new job going

[cyan smelt]

I need a job

[nocturne holly]

Yessir get those gains

Working out clears my head so much

It’s more about the discipline for me

[fickle minnow]

I’ve been working my abs really hard, since I have a bad back

[nocturne holly]

I also wanna look good too

[fickle minnow]

It’s a muscular problem, but working those muscles makes it hurt less

[cyan smelt]

I haven't been doing any exercise for the past week because I've been sick and it hasn't been fun

[fickle minnow]

They’re very weak at the moment, but they’re getting better

[nocturne holly]

Yeah I recently took like a 5 day break
Working myself really hard with the gym, running, and soccer
And I feel so much stronger and better

[mighty stump]

I'm thinking about signing up for a kendo club. I've gone off working out cause I've been busy moving countries and starting this new job.

Plus previously the lack of a job was hurting my brain

[fickle minnow]

I’ve never really been a sports guy. I try to get into it, I get salty when I get competitive

[nocturne holly]

That’s based

[mighty stump]

I think my goal for signing up is just to be more mindful

[nocturne holly]

Yeah I feel you

[mighty stump]

And more grounded

[fickle minnow]

There was also the situation of all the kids at the school “letting you get a goal”, because you’re the neurodivergent one

[cyan smelt]

I don't like participating in competitive sports but pokemon is different at least

[fickle minnow]

Which like, I appreciate the sentiment, there were days where I needed a pick-me-up

But I also wanna compete legitimately, I felt so much better losing honestly than winning dishonestly

[mighty stump]

Okay

Next match in about 20 minutes or so

urgh

[fickle minnow]

I am much more of a fan of tactical stuff, like Fire Emblem

[mighty stump]

I;ve been meaning to get Kunitsu-Gami

[fickle minnow]

I love strategy games, I was the best at my school when it came to Showdown random matches

Granted, 90% of that was understanding “Stealth Rock good” lol

[mighty stump]

It's definitely a niche action strategy game but Capcom's Division 1 does a very good job at what they do

[nocturne holly]

Gl

[fickle minnow]

Capcom strategy game? When was it made?

[mighty stump]

Recently released.

[nocturne holly]

Bro what your school did showdown???

[mighty stump]

It's definitely one of those games that isn't gonna sell massively but more of like

"We let the devs do whatever they want" and they made something pretty cool

[fickle minnow]

We played Showdown all the time on our phones lol. I would bring in my laptop, hook up to the school Wi-Fi, and play

[nocturne holly]

That’s sick

Anyways gn y’all

[rustic mountain]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2173115370-7g6qp10vqyx3355pxw0qr1bllvujiedpw
wen u somehow pull it off

[cyan smelt]

could gligar be a good option into peli arch?

*gliscor

[mighty stump]

Won both my matches

AND I GOT TO USE SNORLAX to win the set

[cyan smelt]

grats

based snorlax

[mighty stump]

Even though my set got clowned on Twitter the other day

[cyan smelt]

ignore em

[mighty stump]

It was funny

Hehehe

[rustic mountain]

whats the sauce

[rustic mountain]

[mighty stump]

Snorlax >>>

[strange fjord]

What if I drop early Reg H data on MunchStats 👀 ?

At least the data I have available

[cyan smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/dew-it-galactic-republic-palpatine-gif-21847982

[strange fjord]

Just pushed the commit. Give it a minute to process the update

https://www.munchstats.com/gen9vgc2024regh

here yall go

i shall try and update the data as often as I can

[knotty mirage]

Is dragapult gonna be the fastest pokemon on reg H speed tier ?

[nocturne holly]

Thank you 🙏

[cyan smelt]

Damn skeledirge on 1.67%

[dense latch]

huge props, love the website

[mighty stump]

Yeah looks about what we expect

Can't wait to fully influence the Snorlax data again

[mighty stump]

Yep.

[knotty mirage]

Ah alright i hope unburden sneasler shadow claw can one shot it then

[mighty stump]

252+ Atk Sneasler Shadow Claw vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Dragapult: 112-132 (68.2 - 80.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Lol

[knotty mirage]

Damn i guess i need give sneasler tera ghost

[cyan smelt]

Why not just use horoark at that point

I wonder if clawitzer is viable, how much does it do to archaludon with aura sphere

[mighty stump]

Calc it

Lol

[cyan smelt]

252+ sp attack clawitzer ohkos timid variants

With lorb

But I'm guessing most archaludons have some bulk

[knotty briar]

What item should I give annihilape?
This is the team I'm building

[solid frigate]

leftovers? This is a Bulk up set after all

[cyan smelt]

Also drain punch over cc

[mighty stump]

Coverage looks kind of poor ngl, the FariLuna mirror can also be poor especially if its regular Ursaluna

[cyan smelt]

i really want to try anger shell wp klawf now lol

[knotty mirage]

Can i get thought on this build planning to use it on reg H just want to know if it's usable
Klefki @ Light clay
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 252 HP / 152 Def / 100 Sdef
Bold Nature

• Foul play
• Thunder wave
• Reflect
• Light screen

[solid frigate]

i seen some Klefkis so i guess its fine

[mighty stump]

Not really a fan of Foul Play in this format lol. Just run DGleam

Foul Play was mainly for CIR remember guys

[knotty mirage]

I mean maybe it could be useful agains't annihilape or gambit

But sure i guess i will replace it with gleam the tera is fine right ?

[chrome knot]

weirdo twitter post

[mighty stump]

I was testing and it was 1200s like chill

Theres no way this belongs with the other weird SD sets

[chrome knot]

did u beat him?

also nice opl win just watched replays

[timber falcon]

what is that set

am i underestimating snorlax or smth

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 143: Snorlax

Type

Normal

Abilities

Immunity, Thick Fat, Gluttony (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

160/110/65/65/110/30

Total

540

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[cyan smelt]

power swap farigiraf is the new sauce

[fluid wind]

https://pokepast.es/0356c3252e9b8c3b what do yall think

[next stump]

• Murkrow set is standard and good, maybe Quash over Taunt but both moves have value

• Why the Soft Sand on Garchomp? I feel like you're better off just going Clear Amulet or even Life Orb if you want a damage boost

• Rotom probably wants Wisp over Thunder Wave (I think Rotom-W gets wisp but maybe not)

• Ghold doesn't need focus sash. I'd run Life Orb and put some EVs into bulk to make sure you're not getting one shot by things that outspeed you. Thunderbolt also probably not necessary when you have Rotom and Rilla to hit water types and Garchomp to hit flying types

• Rilla set is standard and solid

• Tera Fairy on Sylveon is risky because you can easily get pinned by something like Gholdengo. If you're fine playing against Ghold without Sylveon (something like Murkrow/Chomp/Ghold/Rilla) then you can leave the tera as Fairy

[fluid wind]

thxs for the help

[next stump]

you're welcome 😄 solid looking team

[cyan smelt]

doesn't sylveon go tera fire

[fluid wind]

also yea might give gar prob life orb

[cyan smelt]

how common is focus blast on gholdengo?

[next stump]

not registered on the top 8 moves for Gholdengo from recent tournaments

[chrome knot]

rotom w does get wisp, its famous for missing it

[chrome knot]

yeah it do

[next stump]

it's only use case is on Choice Specs but even then, Power Gem can hit Incin and it won't miss or you go Gleam/Trick

[mighty stump]

Rotom-Mow underrated 😎

[cyan smelt]

oh yeah i've ran into trick gholdengo a couple of times

[mighty stump]

I’m gonna run Tera-Fighting Close Combat Incineroar you can OHKO H-Arc

😎

[next stump]

[chrome knot]

not this again

[mighty stump]

Wow u just hate me

Ur a hater

[chrome knot]

LOL

[fickle void]

I found my new favorite support mon

Spiritomb

He looks funny, he takes hits like a champ and he has a huuuge move pool :)

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 442: Spiritomb

Types

Ghost/Dark

Abilities

Pressure, Infiltrator (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

50/92/108/92/108/35

Total

485

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

Pokémon No. 911: Skeledirge

Types

Fire/Ghost

Abilities

Blaze, Unaware (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

104/75/100/110/75/66

Total

530

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

Pokémon No. 898: Calyrex-Ice

Types

Psychic/Ice

Abilities

As One (Glastrier)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/165/150/85/130/50

Total

680

Base Species

Calyrex

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

Pokémon No. 490: Manaphy

Type

Water

Abilities

Hydration

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/100/100/100/100/100

Total

600

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[mighty stump]

@chrome knot Wtf does Manaphy have to do with things

[chrome knot]

someone in shiny hunters thought you could use manaphy in competitive

and that wasnt me

[violet kindle]

Me!!

I love manaphy!!

[chrome knot]

ok

[violet kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-lift-lifting-up-smile-happy-gif-8995800

[mighty stump]

Not in official circuits

or events

[solid frigate]

also is Manaphy even in SV

[mighty stump]

Idk, probably

[torn parrot]

I was so sleepy I thought this was a brain tumor

[violet kindle]

So mean

[violet kindle]

Yes

Mine is in it now also i seen it earlier on

Im the game

What does hydration do 😭

[torn parrot]

Maybe it’s time

For me to finally play araquanid

[violet kindle]

Maybe

[torn parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/awake-im-awake-im-up-waking-up-just-waking-up-gif-17567905378229855665

[violet kindle]

Same

[solid frigate]

back from work Finally

[chrome knot]

transfer in

its not bad in raids w tail glow heart swap lol

[dapper crag]

Ability: Sheer Force

This Pokemon's attacks with secondary effects have their power multiplied by 1.3, but the secondary effects are removed. If a secondary effect was removed, it also removes the user's Life Orb recoil and Shell Bell recovery, and prevents the target's Anger Shell, Berserk, Color Change, Emergency Exit, Pickpocket, Wimp Out, Red Card, Eject Button, Kee Berry, and Maranga Berry from activating.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[craggy dagger]

[dapper crag]

Ability: Berserk

When this Pokemon has more than 1/2 its maximum HP and takes damage from an attack bringing it to 1/2 or less of its maximum HP, its Special Attack is raised by 1 stage. This effect applies after all hits from a multi-hit move. This effect is prevented if the move had a secondary effect removed by the Sheer Force Ability.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[chrome knot]

aahh

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

nova gm

[craggy dagger]

gm emma

[chrome knot]

haiiii

how was your sleep bean

[craggy dagger]

it was okay-
um

[mighty stump]

How come you don't give me a gm

(Its midnight)

[craggy dagger]

tofu shouldn’t you be asleep-

[chrome knot]

yaaaaay

[mighty stump]

Yes.

Sigh

[chrome knot]

go to bed!!

[torn parrot]

Ugly

[violet kindle]

What

[mighty stump]

I'm doing revenge bedtime procrastination

[violet kindle]

They have feelings too!!

[mighty stump]

Ok I'll sleep after one more set

@chrome knot Did you see my OPL set 😎

[chrome knot]

i literally said good job & that i watched it earlier cx

[mighty stump]

I know

I have bad memory

Huhuh

[chrome knot]

so yes i did see it

[mighty stump]

Snorlax MVP

[chrome knot]

goated

wanna see a funy 1 turn game

[mighty stump]

Yes

[mighty stump]

LOL

[chrome knot]

adamant pao 💪💪💪

[violet kindle]

Bro was mad fr

[torn parrot]

They’re disgusting and ugly

need to put paper bags over their heads

[violet kindle]

Uxie is

[craggy dagger]

they’re fine

[torn parrot]

I had to throw up because of the graphic ugliness 🤮

[craggy dagger]

what’s typhlosion doing there

[torn parrot]

He’s the third part of the trio

Dialga palkia typhlosia

[cyan smelt]

ultra ball tier lessgo

[opal trout]

Little did we know hisuian typhlosion was Giritina all along…

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 628: Braviary-Hisui

Types

Psychic/Flying

Abilities

Keen Eye, Sheer Force, Tinted Lens (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

110/83/70/112/70/65

Total

510

Base Species

Braviary

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[foggy lodge]

Huh

Doesn't seem so bad

Ah wait what's that speed

[cyan smelt]

ultra ball is so difficult

[dull ibex]

showdown stream?

[mighty stump]

Level of play in general have gone up too

[bold geode]

Wtf you mean by that

"Fuck you bed, I'm not gonna sleep"

[mighty stump]

You’ve never heard of it? It’s essentially wanting to stay up and make use of active time at night due to feelings of not being able to have freedom within the day

Thereby sacrificing sleep in an attempt to feel control of over your sense of freedom and life

[nocturne holly]

Tricking specs onto idbp kommo is literally an auto win

[bold geode]

Ok I think you just named something I just do every night out of habit

[forest arrow]

lmao

classic monke

[bold geode]

Although it's half the time
The other half is just YouTube videos or TikTok

[chrome knot]

@mighty stump i made a bunny friend today

[calm gulch]

#Bullymonke

[chrome knot]

his name is benjamin

[spiral ridge]

Awwww

[spiral ridge]

Last game had a palafin try to haze my +1 ghol but I out sped so I just encored it to reset my mir

[chrome knot]

i got to hold him and he enjoyed lots of pets :3

[spiral ridge]

At my local humane society they sometimes have bunnies

One had babies and was a cool breed and were so soft to hold

[mighty stump]

i hate rabbits

medical divas

[chrome knot]

omg silly BEANS

[spiral ridge]

There was so many and I think this was second trip. They were smaller first time

[torn parrot]

YES

They’re beautiful

They’re so cute