competitive_discussion

[ember linden]

Hyper Beam Nuke Archaludon

[nocturne holly]

Good shit

I haven’t played sylv tell me hour it goes

[ember linden]

252+ SpA Choice Specs Pixilate Sylveon Helping Hand Hyper Beam vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Archaludon: 211-250 (107.1 - 126.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

I also took off tera blast, made gyara tera ground, and gave it hh instead so I can just tera ground + hh on Sylv

The ultimate bo1 fuck you Archaludon combo lmao

[ember linden]

Alr

[foggy lodge]

makes sense

[dapper crag]

Ability: Pixilate

This Pokemon's Normal-type moves become Fairy-type moves and have their power multiplied by 1.2. This effect comes after other effects that change a move's type, but before Ion Deluge and Electrify's effects.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[charred saddle]

lost twice to a fucking ground tera crap
and im miraidon

[ember linden]

Good :}

[charred saddle]

phat

[forest arrow]

But cute :3 I need one lol

[ornate elk]

Nothing a good old kick wont fix

[cyan smelt]

Specs hyper beam Sylveon is hilarious lol

[plain drum]

Git gud

[round turret]

https://pokepast.es/6ba22469017b09b9 I'm trying to build a snow team but I wasn't sure what to do with cetitans slot and whimsicotts slot, can I get some help with these 2?

[forest arrow]

I would recommend a fire type and/or a ground

[round turret]

What kind of fire/ground pokemon would work here

[ornate elk]

I just want a team that work with my queen froslass

[forest arrow]

There’s harc/arc, fire tauros, incin

[round turret]

Harc/arc?

[forest arrow]

Arcanine, Hisui Arcanine

[round turret]

Oh

That makes sense

Which would be better for this team though

[forest arrow]

Harc is good into steel and fire types that want to go against your snow mode

Tauros too for steel types

[round turret]

Thank you

[clever epoch]

Im looking to get into competitive but idk where to start.

[molten oasis]

drop snowscape on a9

useless move on a9

semi useless, dont use it

[cyan smelt]

Encore better

[molten oasis]

go blizzard or icy wind, encore also works

idt a9 needs protect either so you could drop protect

also i'd pick bax OR cetitian not both

[forest arrow]

I like HH

[mighty stump]

Are you excited for Reg H

[forest arrow]

Yesssssss!

I came back the moment I seen it 🤣

Csr just made me a madman

[cyan smelt]

Hi welcome, check the pins for a bunch of useful resources, start with rental teams and get a feel for the meta

[round turret]

I've come across a bunch of rain/sun teams recently, so snowscape has assisted me in ruining that

[molten oasis]

just swtich in and out

[mighty stump]

Also to keep an open mind and understand that competitive doesn’t always let you run your favourites

[round turret]

Shi mb

Didn't think Abt that somehow

[round turret]

So I have harc over cetitan, but do I use fire tauros instead of whims or use something different

[forest arrow]

something different

[mighty stump]

What’s the team

[forest arrow]

Ninetales-Alola @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Snow Warning
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 84 HP / 132 Def / 84 SpA / 4 SpD / 204 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Helping Hand
• Blizzard
• Aurora Veil
• Moonblast

[round turret]

Lemme update it rq

[cyan smelt]

Try not to double up on types

[forest arrow]

also heres an A9 without snowscape

i like helping hand but encore is good too just personal prefernce really

[cyan smelt]

I hate being encore locked lol

[nocturne holly]

Tofu what do you think of myrkrow on this https://pokepast.es/cfd23ddb5255defc
Any thoughts on a better speed control option?

[round turret]

https://pokepast.es/a748552ceacbd46b

This is the updated with harc

[fallen garden]

just run choice items, mental herb, or dark type on every mon

overcorrect for this one move you hate

[round turret]

@mighty stump

[forest arrow]

Mmm run head smash over Tera blast

[round turret]

Kk

[cyan smelt]

Non prankster encore doesn't care about dark types

[round turret]

What do I run over whims

[fallen garden]

yeah but non prankster encore isn't super common, is it? ....maybe it is

[mighty stump]

If its Dragon Dance it should be Icicle Crash. Solo Ice Shard only works with Swords Dance

[cyan smelt]

In reg h it's around on a9

[round turret]

Using that now

[mighty stump]

Whims lol. Unless you wanna run Illumise

[forest arrow]

Tera blast you just really don’t get any value, it just seems kind of wasted, it wouldnt do much unless you Tera and if you Tera you wanna click Espeed anyways

[mighty stump]

Or just run Icy Wind

[fallen garden]

i think using illumise instead of whims is funnier

[round turret]

I'm struggling with replacing whims bc nothing comes to mind

[nocturne holly]

A9? Icy wind+encore+screens+snow for bax

[mighty stump]

Murkrow gets Icy Wind lol

[round turret]

Tofu, what can I use instead of whims, I don't get any use out of it and it doesn't really fit in the team either

[cyan smelt]

Murkrow?

[fallen garden]

do you not usually bring speed control?

[round turret]

I'm used to running TR but I wanna switch it up so snow is what I'm using

But with whims just seems off for me to use rn

[mighty stump]

Just play a Balance game

Icy Wind is sufficient Spe control for slowplay reasons and don’t tunnel vision on setting AVeil/keeping Snow up

[forest arrow]

A water type would give you a FWG core

[round turret]

FWG core?

[forest arrow]

Fire water grass

[nocturne holly]

Wait what fr?? I also wanna run rain on it

[mighty stump]

What for

[forest arrow]

Types that synergize well with one another

[mighty stump]

Also concerns with that team dropping to MausApe ngl

[round turret]

Is there any pokemon I can add to deal with mausape?

[mighty stump]

Technically Whimsicott helps with Encore lock and giving immediate speed control to be able to delete Maushold

But Sneasler can somewhat deal with it

As long as you just remove Maushold

I can sense that this team gives you incentive to be greedy with setup since I see a few setup moves

[round turret]

If I do run into MausApe should I lead with sneasler and tera acro?

[mighty stump]

Whatever is appropriately quick enough to deal with Maushold.

[round turret]

With veil I can comfortably get off a d dance and sweep a team pretty comfortably

[mighty stump]

Veil + DDance is an incredibly passive turn

My point is, just be aware of when to setup and when to go for immediate damage

[round turret]

I tend to have veil up by time I even get Bax out on the field

But whims is fine on the team? Or do I change it for a different kind of control

[bold geode]

Tofu help my dumbass keeps killing my Incin with EQ

[forest arrow]

Don’t click EQ

[bold geode]

But funny button

[forest arrow]

Wait til the birb is present my child

[rustic mountain]

jus faced a 4 squad w/ lurantis

[nocturne holly]

Bet you lost

[torn parrot]

Im interested how this meta will develop

[ornate elk]

What happen to old meta?

[foggy lodge]

To reg G?

[torn parrot]

It was banned from existing

Until 4 months from now

[nocturne holly]

Could harc and peli work on the same team together

[molten oasis]

Not really

Incin works with peli cuz incin doesn’t need fire coverage

Harc kinda does unless you wanna go rock only

[nocturne holly]

Yea ik

but harc is so nice on this team

[molten oasis]

Head smash and rock slide might not be the worst thing

Then don’t run peli

If you really want I think murkrow gets rain dance

[nocturne holly]

But peli would also be so good on this team

Yea it does
But it’s fucking murjrow

[molten oasis]

Up to you man

Ik I don’t like it either

[nocturne holly]

Murkriw almost got ohkoed by WHIMS moonblast

It literally tickles anything else

[molten oasis]

…

I mean, most whims are max max, whims does decent damage

[nocturne holly]

Tbh I might try a9 or whims

It’s a shame whims doesn’t get rain dance

[molten oasis]

Why a9?

[nocturne holly]

I’m running bax

[molten oasis]

Ah

I mean you don’t need a snow abuser for snow, but fair enough

[dapper crag]

[Latest Gen] Salamence

Rain Dance:

• As Salamence from a TM, HM or TR
• As Shelgon from a TM, HM or TR
• As Bagon from a TM, HM or TR

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[nocturne holly]

ok let me cook

[rustic mountain]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2172464875-em1bc66wf8s00pq9hyqdydgdy2oy3slpw

take a look for urself

[nocturne holly]

Gj 👍🔥

Are you running tw hydreigon?

[rustic mountain]

nope

tw pelipper. been using life orb hydreigon

protect/draco/pulse and ep

[molten oasis]

I think you can also do flash cannon pretty safely if you want

If you’re running Tera steel

[molten oasis]

lets go man 1-3 today

this is looking to be a great play sesh

[timber falcon]

i think i gotta change my team

[molten oasis]

1-4, THANKS FOR MISSING DRACO AND HEAD SMASH GUYS

[timber falcon]

is this W/L or L/W

[molten oasis]

1-4, W/L

[timber falcon]

oh....

[cyan smelt]

i gotta change my team too

[mighty stump]

@chrome knot

[timber falcon]

i think ima try sneasler/rilla balance

armourouge feels too gimmicky

[cyan smelt]

i felt like you were gonna try prima aqua jet into wp armarouge

or flip turn

[timber falcon]

i was. however i didnt have a move that would kill that farig so i tried take advantage of the tr. Then for some reason i ended it

[molten oasis]

i hate head smash dude lol

missed twice in a row and if they didnt i won that match, lame

[timber falcon]

unluck

[cyan smelt]

you need supersweet syrup lol

[solid frigate]

I’m giving Dialga one final Spin in Reg G

before i fully into Reg H

[rustic mountain]

u def could

i think i jus liked the option into steel overall and stuff like glimmora

[timber falcon]

thoughts on araquanid?

looks like it can possibly work but idk

[molten oasis]

aaaaand i lost to a close combat harc and tera fairy gleam dengo, cant even be mad about that its just weird stuff

[solid frigate]

i mean its a good Defensive Water Type Attacker

[timber falcon]

is specs gleam dengo weird?

[molten oasis]

scarf

[timber falcon]

oh lol

[solid frigate]

Ok thats weird

[rustic mountain]

maybe as a tr sweeper

[molten oasis]

wow getting chesed then back to the tr mu, yippee

[timber falcon]

yeah cause i havent seen much mons which particularly frighten it. Except archaludon

[rustic mountain]

yea u can run like bm ursa or reg ursa next to it for that

basically force it to tera then liquidation goes crazy

jus gta make sure u dont boost it up too much

[timber falcon]

yeah i gotta regulate it, then theres also regular ursaluna

which doesnt help mirror tr MUs

[rustic mountain]

araquanid should underspeed, if they tera normal its prolly weird tho but u can wide guard if u predict the hyper voice

def is workarounds

protect if u think blood moon is likely

[timber falcon]

omg it does underspeed

[mighty stump]

Ligma

[rustic mountain]

its really slow

[mighty stump]

Araquanid bad

[timber falcon]

why

[molten oasis]

at least my tr mu is good, i suupose

[mighty stump]

What can Araquanid do

[timber falcon]

keel

neutral kills in tr?

[mighty stump]

If u want to be under TR, I’ll just play my Ursaluna out of TR LOL

[rustic mountain]

good ability strong stab

[timber falcon]

should i account for that or smth

[mighty stump]

What you should account for is being deliberate in your choices rather than thinking “if this is good”

[timber falcon]

but what if i play max speed amoongus

[rustic mountain]

huh

[mighty stump]

Stop thinking 1-1 and start thinking more holistically with your MUs

[timber falcon]

idk what holistically means

oh like a group

so the core of a team

yeah but what do people even run with ursaluna?

its farig, ursaluna, and then some random mons

im not seeing consistent cores

[cyan smelt]

Where's the munchstats usage stats so far lol

[timber falcon]

idt it has updated, but its on pikalytics

[cyan smelt]

Pizza posted a list the other day

[molten oasis]

people just dont bring dondozo to their matches huh

ive seen a lot of dozo and they dont bring it

[cyan smelt]

Is it something about your team that discourages them from bringing it

[timber falcon]

bait

i reckon it can be used as that

[cyan smelt]

Maybe I should just run mausape, dozo giri and A9 bax lol

[molten oasis]

why are you support and life orb dragapult wtf

AND tera water tera blast

i hate low ladder man GET ME OUT

[timber falcon]

i mean high ladder rn is like 1550 right?

[cyan smelt]

Maybe I should replace regular ursaluna on my team with ursa bm

[molten oasis]

im in 1200's

im in hell

[timber falcon]

same 🫠

yeah im not liking tr

i feel like i gotta focus more on stopping tr

[cyan smelt]

I think my team struggles with psyspam, mausape and pelipper archaludon

[timber falcon]

so basically the ones to expect

[cyan smelt]

Palafin and gholdengo are also annoying

[timber falcon]

bro thats everything

[cyan smelt]

Lol

[molten oasis]

ok we turned the sesh around

my tr mu is pretty strong, and theres lots of tr

[timber falcon]

how do u deal with tr?

[molten oasis]

calm mind primarina

im a play though it person

thats how i play through it

[timber falcon]

hm

[molten oasis]

almost lost to a malamar, then harc hit head smash enough for me to win

[cyan smelt]

Hmmmm malamar

[solid frigate]

he finally hit the lottery

[molten oasis]

dude this ladder is fucking miserable god

[solid frigate]

i feel like you said that every reg but ok

[molten oasis]

im playing bo1 in the most open format, im gonna hate bo1 ladder

[solid frigate]

did we all hate b01 CTS bullshit

didn’t*

its hard to know if those team are build around B01 or Both cuz everything is volatile

At least in my eye cuz every people has their own POV

[cyan smelt]

The best team I've seen so far is moody muk with tera steel flamigo that has low kick

[balmy glen]

no

i think its funny

[molten oasis]

i dont like losing to tera water dragapult or malamar, skill issue ig

[cyan smelt]

What did the malamar do

[molten oasis]

i didnt lose to it it was just an example

[solid frigate]

Contrary.

tbh its was not that bad

[cyan smelt]

Haven't seen any tinkaton yet

Wait maybe I should try skill swap contrary onto hydrapple then just spam Draco meteor

[molten oasis]

tofus right i just lose to palafin balance

why cant i make anything that fucking works

[timber falcon]

any reccuring cores?

[molten oasis]

pala incin rilla archa peli

[timber falcon]

arch?

oh yeah rain damage

[molten oasis]

i cant dude all my moves fucking miss

[timber falcon]

sounds like trash rng, then again if ur willing to gamble ur willing to lose

[molten oasis]

my rng is usually pretty trash i just suffer with it

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/3313c7d4e9d922b3 any thoughts here

didnt really think for the evs

[molten oasis]

antoehr game gone to my fuckign rng, a bo3 iwould have won too

FUCK

[cyan smelt]

tera dragon skeledirge, bullshit

too much psyspam bs

[opal trout]

Iniceroar’s ability should be intimidate but apart from that the team looks ok

[balmy glen]

Intimidate incin is over rated frfr

[cyan smelt]

lost to a stupid dancer set

[timber falcon]

i didnt even realise lmao

[cyan smelt]

i keep losing to bullshit crits

let's go up to 1300s for the first time

[opal trout]

I once forgot to put armour tail on my farigaraf in a pokepaste so don’t worry lol

[cyan smelt]

I think my team is performing better with ursa bm, it improves my mu against archaludon and annihilape

Psyspam is still tricky

[timber falcon]

Nice

[cyan smelt]

Gxe is trash though

[knotty mirage]

I wonder is it good idea to give primarina perish song to cuck dondozo ?

[zinc totem]

https://pokepast.es/e01275b07d29ec0e im considering making alolan ninetales team to test out for Reg H but maybe i should swap indeedee to fari and armarouge to baxcalibur/rillaboom

[torn parrot]

Do somethin stupid 🥕

For fun

[molten oasis]

Ig

[cyan smelt]

Use toxapex

[molten oasis]

My issue is feeling prepped for something then I get tofus thoughts on it then the mu he speaks is bad along with others comes to fruition and now the team feels shit

For whatever reason the stuff I have was remarkably good into psyspam tr but can’t handle palance or dozo

And when I teambuild I search for consistency and head smash, i think is the move name, and Draco failed me so much yesterday

And I’m so very aware I played poorly and now I feel like I’m lacking when I see everyone else succeeding

Maya managed #1, seems like everyone’s having fun

I’m stuck in 1200/1100’s in both ladders

And I feel like the stuff I make sucks

[cyan smelt]

What are you currently running?

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/39a757b03b5ed0f0

Supposed to be centered about Prima but idk anymore

Feels slapped together and works through sheer delusion, as in it doesn’t work

[cyan smelt]

I think maybe it's just a question of choosing moves, like I've been having bad luck with crits, maybe don't always go for the head smash and Draco, also have you thought about tera ice blizzard prim?

[molten oasis]

I want calm mind and I don’t need a blizzard spammer so no

And sometimes I need to click those moves to pick up kills

[cyan smelt]

Ok well the team is definitely vulnerable to mausape and dozo

[molten oasis]

And everytime I did yesterday and it was an important moment nope, I’m fucking dead

[cyan smelt]

You might need haze somewhere to deal with dozo unless you can encore lock it

[molten oasis]

Well that’s the whole line and ik that line works

[mighty stump]

Jesus christ I just finished work it was brutal

[molten oasis]

Again the issue is palance rn

[molten oasis]

Time to take a good ol break playing vgc right?

Why was it so bad if you don’t mind talking about it?

[cyan smelt]

What exactly is palance, ik it's palafin rilla and incin

[molten oasis]

Usually those 3 than peli/arch is around and then Fariluna w/ dengo is also something I’ve seen

I have lines for Fariluna

[cyan smelt]

Pelipper arch was a problem for my team too, I changed regular ursaluna for ursa bm

[molten oasis]

My lines for the tr stuff, be it psyspam or Fariluna (both of the ursas) I think are fine

It is palafin and mausape (maushold mostly) giving me issues

[cyan smelt]

What about redirection?

[molten oasis]

What redirection fits

[cyan smelt]

Maybe clef?

[molten oasis]

If I wanted amoonguss it be over rilla I don’t really think I need 3 fairy types

[cyan smelt]

Hmmm

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-confused-math-gif-26401710

[cyan smelt]

Electabuzz or magmar?

[molten oasis]

…ig those are options

[cyan smelt]

Those are the only really other viable ones, besides sentret lmao

[molten oasis]

i want ogerpon back lol

[cyan smelt]

You could use maushold against maushold lol

[molten oasis]

i love speed ties

[cyan smelt]

But yeah electabuzz/magmar is good for static and flame body

Or vital spirit if you don't like amoongus

[molten oasis]

idk

i'll think about it

[mighty stump]

Wasnt bad

Just got slammed

Had a double of complex cases with simple cases in between

[cyan smelt]

Maybe if you post some replays we can see what's going wrong

[mighty stump]

I went an hour overtime lmao

[mighty stump]

Have something that’s fastwr that can kill Maushold or redirection to prevent any problems with setup

[molten oasis]

oof

[cyan smelt]

It's weird, the mausholds I faced in reg a used to go tera ghost but they're not doing that now

[molten oasis]

i slapped scarf tera steel dengo on again but ig redirect would be helpful as well

[mighty stump]

I mean that’s fine but you need to OHKO lol

[molten oasis]

thats the, yea thats the issue

i have to commit the tera for it or double into it with glide

why is this pelipper faster than my harc???

[mighty stump]

What’s your H-Arc speed

[molten oasis]

it hits 125

[mighty stump]

if it’s banded it shouldn’t be that slow

[molten oasis]

how fast am i supposed to be then?

https://pokepast.es/cded1107ed8dbc62 this is also the current thing

although im gonna edit the a9 spread

cool now i can always encore lock a adamant max speed dozo

:/

oh timid's 128

for peli, oops

[cyan smelt]

Archaludon is very annoying

[molten oasis]

uhm, alright then i'll just experiment ig

[mighty stump]

I just go max speed

Minimal bulk feels so pointless might as well optimise to do its one job well

Speed is the important aspect too

[molten oasis]

thats kinda why i went CA so i could not have to do that

[mighty stump]

What does CA have to do with not being max speed

[molten oasis]

no, i wanted it bulkier

[cyan smelt]

Is tera grass incin a thing now to deal with palafin?

[mighty stump]

Yes

[cyan smelt]

Ok I'll have to watch out for that

[mighty stump]

Grass Sitrus

[molten oasis]

nvm sorry i not thinking straight, had to get up extra early today

max max it is

[forest arrow]

Gonna try a series 1 team and see how it fairs, it has mausape

[molten oasis]

great i got fried

by killowatrel

[mighty stump]

Reg H is just gonna be trial-and-error for a lot of you

[molten oasis]

forgot it got competitve

[mighty stump]

Knowledge checks

[cyan smelt]

Oh yeah I've seen discharge kilowattrel next to lightning rod pikachu

[mighty stump]

So just play to gain knowledge rather than playing expecting to win every game

[molten oasis]

ok

[chrome knot]

im addicted to this reg

[cyan smelt]

What are you running

[molten oasis]

i can for sure say the core feels ok

the other members, per usual, are where im struggling, per usual

[silk stream]

Are there any good fire special attackers in reg h?

[molten oasis]

Chandelure

[cyan smelt]

Hisuian typhlosion, torkoal

[silk stream]

Always forget about the hanging light haha
Ooh, typhlosion. Will have a looksie. Ty

[chrome knot]

mausape palafin & friends

[cyan smelt]

Nice

Surprised I haven't seen more glimmora dondozo

[mighty stump]

People probably want to play with the new DLC toys too

[chrome knot]

got a grand total of 1 dlc mon in my team

[mighty stump]

lmao

[chrome knot]

could practically make this team in reg A

just arcanine over incin

[mighty stump]

Incin feels so unnecessary this Reg

[cyan smelt]

I was running supreme overlord kingambit in reg a, cringe

[chrome knot]

im a big fan of being able to disrupt when 2 of my other pokemon like being switched oug

[zinc totem]

how often people run ally switch on farigiraf? feels weird ruyn that one

[cyan smelt]

Thanks rotom

[chrome knot]

the secret is they dont

you’re just in low ladder lol

[timber falcon]

im not seeing it have much of an impact tbh, could it be it works better in regs with stronger mons?

[cyan smelt]

Only Leo runs ally switch

[chrome knot]

i OHKO gholdengos

[mighty stump]

Like I was saying in VC yesterday, you cannot just pass in this game by slapping standard shit and calling it a day

[chrome knot]

and amongus

[mighty stump]

Choices need to be genuinely deliberate to be able to craft favourable board states you desire to break common systems

[timber falcon]

i feel like ive been told this before

[mighty stump]

You need a justifiable reason as to why you’re picking mons lol

[zinc totem]

well yeah, ultra rank but it wa sstill surprise

[timber falcon]

basically it needs a role it gets good value? And not just value

for example maybe a Fake Out mon was needed, not to just go for incin?

or am i missing smth

[mighty stump]

If a FO mon is needed:

• Why do you need Fake Out
• Why did you pick that particular Fake Out mon
• What else can it provide aside from Fake Out that you’re utilising to provide a favourable MU regarding the rest of the meta

[cyan smelt]

I really do feel like I lose momentum by switching palafin out lol

[mighty stump]

That’s the literal one point of why Palafin fell off lol

[cyan smelt]

Plus urshifu ignores protect

[timber falcon]

i feel like thats the main point of the gimmick lol

[cyan smelt]

It's not so bad, I can set tr, send in a tr mon then clean up with palafin once tr is over

Unless it's archaludon

[timber falcon]

speaking of archaludon

[mighty stump]

The initial momentum less is a big reason why I think only certain items are good on Palafin lol

[timber falcon]

its my new no.1 hated, what can i use to counter arch, (im back to armourouge as it has given me the most succes, dropping sneasler)

arch just sits there with peli and cooks no matter what i do

[cyan smelt]

Try bm ursaluna, you force a tera or you can usually ohko with earth power

[mighty stump]

L

[timber falcon]

[timber falcon]

i guess i get value if i decide to also run tr. But honestly its not in my main plan

[mighty stump]

Lol what do you think you can do to beat Archaludon

[timber falcon]

idk, maybe im overestimating its spdef

[mighty stump]

Peli-Archa lead gets cooked by a few things

[timber falcon]

example pls

[mighty stump]

Hmm

Nah

[timber falcon]

tera ground tera blast weakness policy armourouge

[timber falcon]

what.

why

[mighty stump]

I wanna see you think about it

[cyan smelt]

Wtf archaludon is only 60kg, I thought it was heavier

[timber falcon]

1 specific mon or a duo

[next stump]

good morning y’all

[mighty stump]

Morning

[timber falcon]

Id say good morning but im conflicted because its not morning for me

anyways, tofu im drawing a blank here

i cant think of a type combo that is good against both of them

[mighty stump]

Rlly

Just think about good neutrals

[timber falcon]

gholdengo?

[mighty stump]

👍

[timber falcon]

i guess it deals gud damage with shadow ball

[idle rover]

Is it possible to do some silly fairy shenanigans with meowscarada

[timber falcon]

is dengo the only one

scarf ape?

[cyan smelt]

When all else fails just final gambit it lol

[timber falcon]

thats what im thinking

cripple their strategy and bring mine into motion

[cyan smelt]

Just realised how bulky ape is

[timber falcon]

then i run a magnet pull mon like magnezone to take out peliper, whilst not letting arch swap out to the gambit

the ultimate archpeli trap card

[dapper crag]

Ability: Magnet Pull

Prevents opposing Steel-type Pokemon from choosing to switch out, unless they are holding a Shed Shell or are a Ghost type.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[cyan smelt]

There seems to be lots of psyspam

[timber falcon]

and ill be joining them

[cyan smelt]

Might almost be worth running weavile with ice spinner lol

[timber falcon]

why not just rilla

[cyan smelt]

True I already run rilla

It's not armadeedee I'm worried about though, it's torkoal

[next stump]

it’s better to find your lines into psyspam with a regular team than change out pokémon just for that matchup

[timber falcon]

thoughts on hisuain samurot?

[cyan smelt]

That sp def is really bad

[timber falcon]

can run av tbh

[cyan smelt]

True

[timber falcon]

im more interested in its offensive capabilities

[cyan smelt]

Sacred sword, aqua cutter, ceaseless edge

[timber falcon]

im just looking for a dark/fairy type i guess

[timber falcon]

and aqua jet can set off armourouge weakness policy

[chrome knot]

what

they don’t run that

[timber falcon]

armourouge or h-samurott

[chrome knot]

armarouge

[timber falcon]

oh i know

just what i wann run

i think if i choose the last 4 mons nicely, it can work out great

[dapper crag]

Ability: Levitate

This Pokemon is immune to Ground-type attacks and the effects of Spikes, Toxic Spikes, Sticky Web, and the Arena Trap Ability. The effects of Gravity, Ingrain, Smack Down, Thousand Arrows, and Iron Ball nullify the immunity. Thousand Arrows can hit this Pokemon as if it did not have this Ability.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[timber falcon]

if a pokemon has levitate is it uimmune to terrain boosts?

[cyan smelt]

Yes

[timber falcon]

so psychic seed wont work?

[cyan smelt]

No

[timber falcon]

🫠

[chrome knot]

i can also sucker punch u

[cyan smelt]

Oh wait it might

[timber falcon]

i gotta look this up

yeha theyre not affected

psychic seed hydreigon wouldve been cool

ill just run lorb

[cyan smelt]

Wonder if I can make hisuian avalugg viable

Probably not with that sp def

[timber falcon]

is focus energy hydreigon viabke, pretty sure i once heard of it

[cyan smelt]

Yes

[timber falcon]

maybe in tr

[cyan smelt]

I run tr but idk who I'd replace, maybe gambit, but gambit has been pretty good

[timber falcon]

whats your team again?

[cyan smelt]

Farig, palafin, rilla, ursa bm, kingambit, skeledirge

[timber falcon]

hm

why do you need replacement

[cyan smelt]

Idk I have a soft spot for hisuian avalugg

I know that there's no room for favourites in vgc

[timber falcon]

but like what do you think it would do

[cyan smelt]

No idea

Body press, mountain gale rock slide ig?

[dapper crag]

Move: Mountain Gale

Has a 30% chance to make the target flinch.

Type

Ice

Category

Physical

Power

100

Accuracy

85

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

Pokémon No. 713: Avalugg-Hisui

Types

Ice/Rock

Abilities

Strong Jaw, Ice Body, Sturdy (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

95/127/184/34/36/38

Total

514

Base Species

Avalugg

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[timber falcon]

doesnt look worth it

[cyan smelt]

Ig it's also drain punch and body press bait

[timber falcon]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9vgc2024regh-2172651117-24nn47vh7370ilu4uckw11dujmqxa5upw first 4 looking solid im liking this

[timber falcon]

so kommo-o?

[cyan smelt]

kommo, ape, archaludon

[timber falcon]

idk if bait for those hard hitters is fun

or maybe i dont get the cncept of "bait"

[cyan smelt]

i just mean it's very vulnerable to that

and its signature move has iffy accuracy

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 706: Goodra-Hisui

Types

Steel/Dragon

Abilities

Sap Sipper, Shell Armor, Gooey (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/100/100/110/150/60

Total

600

Base Species

Goodra

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[timber falcon]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9vgc2024regh-2172653732 hurts

missed last crucial heat wave 😭

why didnt i just expanding force

THAT WOUDVE WON ME THE GAME GUARANTEED WAIT A SEC

WHAT WAS I THINKING

[real prairie]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9aAI-HtOQy/?igsh=MWI3dTN4NHEyYXFhZw==

reporta_meutime

Likes

14786

Instagram

[cyan smelt]

yeah you should've used eforce

eforce helping hand would've won you the game

[chrome knot]

these aren’t real gang

[plain drum]

They are reel though

[cyan smelt]

had someone just rage quit on me because i used psychic noise on his skeledirge so it couln't slack off lol

[plain drum]

My WiFi just went out bro

[cyan smelt]

get better wifi

[plain drum]

[cyan smelt]

wait why does pollen puff work on gholdengo

[mighty stump]

Invite it back in

[mighty stump]

Cause it’s not a status move

[plain drum]

True

[bold geode]

That was
So fucking stupid

[plain drum]

Hey I liked it

[timber falcon]

Regrettable moment

[cyan smelt]

Also why aren't you flash fire armarouge

[molten oasis]

You should be running a crit boosting item if you’re running focus energy

[timber falcon]

Oh is the crit not already guaranteed

[cyan smelt]

Run scope lens

[molten oasis]

Nope

Gotta run the item too

It works in ogerpons case because icy cudgel already has a heightened crit rate

But hydrei needs scope lens

[cyan smelt]

Man do I want to run spidops or lokix lol

[molten oasis]

how about neither lol

[timber falcon]

Thanks for the info

[gentle crag]

otot8953 has given 1 Gen Rep to drayagedrago

[cyan smelt]

Yeah they're too weak even for a low powered format

[timber falcon]

Spidops only good for singles

[cyan smelt]

Tempted to also try serene grace dudunsparce with ancient power and rock slide

And glare

Paraflinch baby

[mighty stump]

Drago has knowledge

Nino tour

[next stump]

maus/ghold is back

[mighty stump]

Teams 1, 2, 7 and 8 are probably key to look at

In the sense of covering stuff beyond the expected goodstuffs

[foggy lodge]

Only 2 Incis

[mighty stump]

Like I said

[foggy lodge]

huh

[mighty stump]

It’s not necessary lol

Ape already punishes Incin, and you cannot just slap solid things for no reason on in this format/game

[molten oasis]

i feel incin's more necesarry in restricted

[mighty stump]

You need to have good reasons to do what you’re doing

[molten oasis]

mence interesting

[molten oasis]

knowledge of legendaries lol

im learning tho

2 is just straight up a reg a team lol

[timber falcon]

too much dengo

[molten oasis]

theres a reason

[timber falcon]

its very good

i get that

but i dont like very good mons

[solid frigate]

Talonflame stonks is real

[molten oasis]

talon's a priority tw setter

and its the fastest thing in the format besides pult

[solid frigate]

i know i used it countless of times before Gen 9

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/357eaddef5cc4e40 still searching for a 6th member

and 5th

[molten oasis]

incin (jk)

and rilla (jk)

i dont feel like giving you a suggestion anymore

[solid frigate]

F

[timber falcon]

i swear ill listen

[molten oasis]

no, yk why

[timber falcon]

plsssss

[molten oasis]

ok first off why are we running bo1 cts cheese armarouge

[solid frigate]

I just looked at the team

And i started to know why Crephace hates Psyspam-

[molten oasis]

i see a normal arma tr mode being much better and much more consistent

[molten oasis]

arma psyspam on ladder (bo1) is a guessing game and that guessing game sucks

[timber falcon]

because out of the armourouge sets ive run, this one surprisingly works the best, heck it even works in OTS whenever they accept

[molten oasis]

in bo1, not bo3

[foggy lodge]

Flip turn Luvdisc

[solid frigate]

When you fight Armarouge is literally just Lets go Gambling

[molten oasis]

plz just ue normal armarouge

[foggy lodge]

👍

[timber falcon]

i dont play bo3

[foggy lodge]

Or play sun room stuff idk

[timber falcon]

not yet anyways

[molten oasis]

ok then plz turbo feed into this and dont pair into me

[timber falcon]

idk what that means

[molten oasis]

go get prima with aqua jet to give armarouge the boost

or run lili/venukoal

[timber falcon]

this works

[solid frigate]

PFFT

[molten oasis]

lol

[solid frigate]

ok this legit feels funny

[molten oasis]

wait the reg a b and c dont work

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/clone-clones-buzz-lightyear-toy-story-gif-21609842

[molten oasis]

and d

gotta add like, hmm

[solid frigate]

D works

Its just different mon

[molten oasis]

reg e as well actually

well no hatt wasnt a transfer mon it was a dlc mon

[foggy lodge]

No?

[solid frigate]

hatterene is in the base game-

[foggy lodge]

It's base game

[molten oasis]

what?

it is???

[solid frigate]

Drago how did you not rememver it is base game-

[molten oasis]

because it wasnt relevant

armarouge was

[solid frigate]

i mean for you make sense

[timber falcon]

btw what does primarina do that the team values again?

apart from set up armourouge

[molten oasis]

aqua jet the armarouge so you can cheese people

you wanna play CTS bo1 cheese armarouge

so we feed into it

[timber falcon]

doesnt mean people are ignorant into the strat however

so im trying to be innovative slightly

[solid frigate]

i mean its Cheese Strat so they would not really consider

[molten oasis]

oh yk waht its good for hydreigon

which walls armarouge

[solid frigate]

or just use Beat up Maus

[timber falcon]

idk

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 936: Armarouge

Types

Fire/Psychic

Abilities

Flash Fire, Weak Armor (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

85/60/100/125/80/75

Total

525

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[timber falcon]

hm

that would max out my speed

[molten oasis]

i mean, i'd give you super real suggestions but you're playing bo1 CTS cheese armarouge

and idk how to build bo1 CTS cheese armarouge

[solid frigate]

Honestly most of the people kinda don’t know how to build cheese

🧀

[timber falcon]

btw the set is inspired off the one from that dewgong team

[solid frigate]

including me i suck at fighting Cheese

[solid frigate]

The Lunala one?

[timber falcon]

yeah

[craggy dagger]

https://pokepast.es/755107ed6b0d2212

thats supposed to be prankster murkrow

[molten oasis]

i see an opportunity for CM prima to pop off here but ok

[timber falcon]

AV primirina is cool idea

[solid frigate]

why this feels the most normal team i saw rn

[molten oasis]

life orb on kommo-o?

[craggy dagger]

credit drago for that-
this was his reg F set

[solid frigate]

I used CM Prima with Throat Spray but still

Gotta love the +2

[craggy dagger]

wasnt sure what to put on kommo

[molten oasis]

no it wasnt

i purely ran calm mind primarina

[foggy lodge]

Leftovers?

[craggy dagger]

well not the spread or moves specifically but you ran AV for a while

[molten oasis]

i never played assault vest primarina

[craggy dagger]

then

[molten oasis]

no i didnt

[craggy dagger]

im misremembering-

[molten oasis]

i played CM primarina

and i also think CM primarina is super free here

[solid frigate]

definitely wasnt me as well cuz i play throat Spray Prima

[craggy dagger]

AV can go on rilla then

[molten oasis]

but i see the kommo-o which is the set up guy so whatever

im guessing krow is just a dozo answer/speed control?

[craggy dagger]

yeah

[molten oasis]

god i hate krow but it does what it needs to i suppose

[craggy dagger]

lefties on kommo then?

[molten oasis]

nova wheres wood hammer

[craggy dagger]

so you finally noticed

[molten oasis]

i see a severe lack of wood hammer

[solid frigate]

Lefties if you want IDBP

But idk Clang soul Kommo-o Set

[craggy dagger]

clang throat spray

[molten oasis]

wood hammer and glide are requried, high horse would go over u-turn

[craggy dagger]

um
i thought i might
Want coverage and i dont wanna sac pivot u turn, fake out, glide

[craggy dagger]

no i know thats what you normally run

but glide already does a lot plus priority

[molten oasis]

getting walled by fari simulator

ie you cant hit bloodmoon very hard

[craggy dagger]

nothing a idbp kommo cant handle though

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 901: Ursaluna-Bloodmoon

Types

Ground/Normal

Abilities

Mind's Eye

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

113/70/120/135/65/52

Total

555

Base Species

Ursaluna

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[molten oasis]

if tr is up and they get your tera and just click EP

you die

[craggy dagger]

or a
prim

[bold geode]

Wolfe finally posted his EUIC video lmao

[craggy dagger]

[solid frigate]

Also Nino Tour there’s only one Ursaluna??

[molten oasis]

im not that interested in it tbh

[solid frigate]

made it to top 10

[molten oasis]

its reg g im so over reg g rn

stupid horse

[craggy dagger]

oh also thats why buzz has taunt instead of krow

[solid frigate]

bro is 0.5x Speed

[molten oasis]

alr, give it a shot i suppose'

[solid frigate]

moment when Wolfey uses Drago Most Hated Restricted and Zamazenta

[craggy dagger]

well dont you worry
it'll come back once this reg A ++
ends

[molten oasis]

zac's worst mu's

[craggy dagger]

[molten oasis]

stop reminding me

[craggy dagger]

i dont want the horses as well

[molten oasis]

stop reminding me i have to learn how to beat CSR with Zacian when it comes back

[solid frigate]

i guess wolfey uses the worst Mu of our main Restricteds-

[craggy dagger]

id rather a fuck all you can bring two restricted or one mythical than reg G again-

[solid frigate]

PLEASE NO.

[molten oasis]

i really wish it went to double restricted

single restricted kinda sucks

[timber falcon]

i basically just completed the missing members from the orignal. But this isnt Reg g so ill replace what dont work

[molten oasis]

unless you use a horse or miraidon you spin a wheel

[solid frigate]

basically most of us-

[molten oasis]

if you land on the bad mu you probably lose

[nocturne holly]

nah I’d win

[solid frigate]

most likely

[plain drum]

“are you fucking stupid”

me:

[molten oasis]

prove it

[solid frigate]

mf you use Calyrex Ice Rider

[molten oasis]

oh yea you'd win

[nocturne holly]

and zac

and csr

[molten oasis]

you run fucking CIR, the most consistent guy

[nocturne holly]

and mirai

[solid frigate]

I’m using Terapagos AKA I DIE TO KORAIDON SIMULATOR

[timber falcon]

let me cook

[craggy dagger]

fake out dewgong?

[molten oasis]

imagine

[timber falcon]

i just coppied the set and swapped quick claw for sitrus

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 87: Dewgong

Types

Water/Ice

Abilities

Thick Fat, Hydration, Ice Body (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/70/80/70/95/70

Total

475

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[solid frigate]

don’t tell me koraidon is one of your worst mu

[craggy dagger]

i mean i know what it does
perish song fake out

[molten oasis]

no its even

because i have tornadus usually

[craggy dagger]

i mean...
it works i guess?
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2172696162

[timber falcon]

horn drill

[craggy dagger]

no guard entrainment

[solid frigate]

I don’t.

I sorya abandon Torn and go for Whims

probably because my Miraidon MU but eh

[craggy dagger]

just realized that dengo just
WALLS kommo really hard

[molten oasis]

yuh

[craggy dagger]

[nocturne holly]

where’s torn when I need it

[solid frigate]

yep some people Run Dark/Ghost Type moves just for that

[molten oasis]

nova

[nocturne holly]

I have to use fucking MURKROW

[molten oasis]

go lefties on prima

[solid frigate]

just use Talonflame or Whims

[molten oasis]

you can kinda treat it like CM raging bolt

[nocturne holly]

they don’t get rain dance

honestly might try fari out and just play a pivot heavy game

[molten oasis]

if you didnt have rilla i think throat spray is fine

[solid frigate]

ah yes a Brachiosaurus is the Ancestor of a Sealion

[molten oasis]

but you do so i think lefties is better

[forest arrow]

peli hater?

[solid frigate]

we stan Peli

[nocturne holly]

No more like a harc lover

[molten oasis]

harc stonks

[nocturne holly]

Real

[forest arrow]

intim hurts into gambit and mausape

[nocturne holly]

why does that matter when I ohko everything I see

[solid frigate]

And Buffing Empoleon and Milotic

[forest arrow]

hence why incin isnt so prevelant

[molten oasis]

ok but like, dont lead harc into mausape lol

[craggy dagger]

awhhhh actually that makes more sense

[bold geode]

Hey babe

[bold geode]

NOOOOOOOOOOVVVAAA

[molten oasis]

[bold geode]

Hai bestie

[forest arrow]

hey babe

[bold geode]

🖕

[molten oasis]

[forest arrow]

dang mean lol

[nocturne holly]

We got incin and rilla calling each other babe before gta6 🙏☝️

[solid frigate]

bro becomes Sylveon for a second

[craggy dagger]

still wondering what i should do for kommo's held item

[molten oasis]

shut the fuck up

literally the most annoying "meme" of all time

[solid frigate]

Bro wtf

[craggy dagger]

hellou!

[molten oasis]

it isnt funny and it never will be

[nocturne holly]

I hope all of your matches are filled with psyspam
And then in reg g or h filled with csr

[bold geode]

Yeah but I'd never be mean to you babe ❤️

[molten oasis]

i have CM prima and hydreigon

and im not touching reg g

[solid frigate]

1st one hopefully not but second one is inevitable

[bold geode]

LOL
Actually kinda funny ngl

Cuz lemme find it God gotta go back

[nocturne holly]

Wait how is a9 on that team

[solid frigate]

I miss Yveltal against Shadow Rider

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/shark-tale-point-out-lets-go-come-on-oscar-gif-15881952

[molten oasis]

its ok, its my dozo line rn

[nocturne holly]

See
You guys don’t have a sense of humor 🙏

[molten oasis]

no

[nocturne holly]

how’s it’s soeed control

[solid frigate]

no

[molten oasis]

this generations memes suck

[solid frigate]

agree

[molten oasis]

they also immediately get overused just to drive it not being funny even harder

[nocturne holly]

what are your generations memes

[molten oasis]

theres the occasional thing like the inside out 2 memes were good but thats it

the pancreatic cancer meme is top tier

[solid frigate]

Covid is kinda the main reason why brainrots in this gen is even worse than Gen Z

[bold geode]

Funny cuz this

[molten oasis]

gen z was kinda funny tbh

[solid frigate]

NO

[molten oasis]

it had its moments

[nocturne holly]

SEE THQTS WHAT I WAS GOING FOR

[solid frigate]

[molten oasis]

gen alpha is not funny

[molten oasis]

[solid frigate]

yeah Gen Z Memes are fine,Like they are not that bad

[nocturne holly]

I’m gen z 😎🙏

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/courage-the-cowardly-dog-courage-eustace-bagge-eustace-stupid-dog-gif-26558722

[craggy dagger]

actually what about this
https://pokepast.es/09ec2952eff8ce9e

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/courage-the-cowardly-dog-courage-eustace-bagge-eustace-stupid-dog-gif-26558722

[bold geode]

LMFAO I was not looking for that GIF but damn that's funny

[craggy dagger]

grassy seed acts as a dauntless shield for kommo-o

[molten oasis]

meh

[solid frigate]

insert Zamazenta Flashback

[molten oasis]

i think you run IDBP still at least

[nocturne holly]

Why no hammer on rilla

[molten oasis]

taunt feels unnecesary

especially when you got electabuzz and krow with it

[bold geode]

I actually saw that

[craggy dagger]

krow doesnt have taunt

[bold geode]

I think it's smart

[molten oasis]

oh, well buzz has taunt therefore you dont need taunt otherwise

[bold geode]

Also Murkrow has Taunt

[molten oasis]

you can treat kommo-o like zama i guess

it can probably work ok

[nocturne holly]

how has murkrow been
In testing and it’s so fucking frail

[molten oasis]

also nova for the love of god put wood hammer on rilla

[craggy dagger]

it gets it
but it’s not running it on my team

opting for thunder wave for speed control instead

[timber falcon]

anyone bo3?

[molten oasis]

im gonna go bed im tired

woke up too early for nothing today

[timber falcon]

good night

[craggy dagger]

lemme test it more
i’ve only got one game with this team rn

[craggy dagger]

made the team last night but just got to testing it-
haven’t brought it in game yet so it’s kinda just sitting there for haze deterrent atm

[craggy dagger]

i think it’ll be interesting though-
but you have to bring rilla all the time which is kind of a downside

[real prairie]

Still funny

[dull ibex]

showdown stream

[timber falcon]

nova

how does ur AV primarina function?

or was it not tested

[craggy dagger]

oh

um
AV prim was mainly for tera poison sludge bomb lando
and
np mir

also
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2172708821
whoa

[timber falcon]

but those arent even viable

[slate hollow]

what item would pair well with dusk mane necrozma in sw/sh?

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2172716650-2e1t5lrcstkasufrtwl8arfue0botnspw

[slate hollow]

besides weakness policy i mean

[chrome knot]

children bomb

[slate hollow]

huh

[timber falcon]

2 static in a row

opponent mustve been fuming

[craggy dagger]

no that AV was from a while ago

[timber falcon]

oh ok

[slate hollow]

guys

can someone answer my question

[chrome knot]

@craggy dagger good mornie morn

[craggy dagger]

mornie

[next stump]

no one here really plays SWSH anymore

maybe life orb if weakness policy is taken

[slate hollow]

yeah weakness policy is good but not really worth the onetime use i feel like

[mighty stump]

That's realistically your only two options.

[next stump]

what do you mean one time use?

[slate hollow]

ok

[mighty stump]

You're playing a Dmax format you're meant to capitalise on turns anyways. Make the most of the "one time use"

WP is highest value in a single turn item wise once procced

[slate hollow]

alright

[craggy dagger]

wp friendly eq was what was popular in swsh for vgc wasn't it?

[mighty stump]

Not EQ

[slate hollow]

also i realized something
for dracovisn, metronome is way better than choice scarf to have equipped

[mighty stump]

Bulldoze, usually.

[slate hollow]

since most people just spam fishious rend anyways

[mighty stump]

This has never been true in the entire history of SwSh VGC

[chrome knot]

hru butthead

[slate hollow]

so there's no drawback

[dapper crag]

Move: Fishious Rend

Power doubles if the user moves before the target.

Type

Water

Category

Physical

Power

85

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Bite

Boosted by Strong Jaw.

Contact

Makes contact.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[mighty stump]

Drawback is being slower than the thing you're trying to KO and losing the Fishious Rend bonus.

[craggy dagger]

gotta be fast for more damage

rather than stack up boosts and potentially losing

[slate hollow]

metronome lowers speed?

[mighty stump]

Those boosts don't even add enough to make up for a x2 BP boost.

[craggy dagger]

no
rather dracovish has mediocre speed at best

[mighty stump]

^

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 882: Dracovish

Types

Water/Dragon

Abilities

Water Absorb, Strong Jaw, Sand Rush (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/90/100/70/80/75

Total

505

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[mighty stump]

Hence why Scarf is necessary.

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 882: Dracovish

Types

Water/Dragon

Abilities

Water Absorb, Strong Jaw, Sand Rush (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/90/100/70/80/75

Total

505

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[craggy dagger]

[nocturne holly]

Slow af

[mighty stump]

Choice Band was the only other alternative once you have very consistent Speed Control. Or Mystic Water.

[nocturne holly]

Only 90 atk? It has strong jaws atleast

[mighty stump]

BP weighs heavily in the damage calc.

[nocturne holly]

Yea

[craggy dagger]

strong jaw boost plus x2 boost

[mighty stump]

160 BP move if you move first. not including STAB, Strong Jaws.

[craggy dagger]

oh stab too

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 880: Dracozolt

Types

Electric/Dragon

Abilities

Volt Absorb, Hustle, Sand Rush (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/100/90/80/70/75

Total

505

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[nocturne holly]

Was sand rush ever user on it

[mighty stump]

Not really.

[dapper crag]

Ability: Strong Jaw

This Pokemon's bite-based attacks have their power multiplied by 1.5.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[craggy dagger]

um
def not common but some people went band sand rush

[nocturne holly]

So was it just a fishious Rene slammer

[mighty stump]

If memory serves me right, HA Fossils weren't legal since you couldn't attain them.

[nocturne holly]

wait really?

[mighty stump]

Ability Patch is a new thing.

[craggy dagger]

patch was in last gen iirc

[nocturne holly]

Oh yeahhhh

[mighty stump]

You're thinking of Ability Capsule.

[nocturne holly]

patch was added in dlc right

[craggy dagger]

no

oh
dlc yeah

i was thinking of um
the dyna ore trader

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/d2d0e1180c81f0bc thoughts?

[mighty stump]

Looks ok

[chrome knot]

wait what

ability patch is a new thing..?

[mighty stump]

Yep.

[chrome knot]

uhh

Huh.

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

wah hai

https://tenor.com/view/citrus-harumi-yuzu-hug-anime-gif-18171387

[dull ibex]

https://discord.com/channels/663661005514997770/1269288060856832050 vgc time

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2172742848

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2172763122-x1o4v767c65yxpme4kaqs2lswoss40opw

garde as the expanding force user jumpscare

[craggy dagger]

@molten oasis
bloodmoon problem wut?
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2172764880

[dapper crag]

Ability: Cursed Body

If this Pokemon is hit by an attack, there is a 30% chance that move gets disabled unless one of the attacker's moves is already disabled.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[nocturne holly]

Annoying ass ability

Procced twice in a row

[craggy dagger]

awe vc is full

[bold geode]

The one time I can't VC damn

[chrome knot]

bye bye bean @craggy dagger

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2172782766-yr1l0pjj5u1ohlllndxb12rnvugb6tkpw

[rustic mountain]

gholdengo the goat

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2172785715-b5ksimdmt4r27xiq6x2gw3hwr5v4qb2pw

LOOOOOOOOOOOL children beatdown

[dull ibex]

@mighty stump can anyone else open the vc so I can rejoin?

[nocturne holly]

https://pokepast.es/179bca81a65e8040 what do we think of Sylv or fari on this?

[mighty stump]

@dull ibex

[solid frigate]

Ahhhhhh

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2172794769-ba5z1r1vlw0trqa3swnabcxra7nixj0pw

[mighty stump]

Gaming

[chrome knot]

like clockwork tbh

[next stump]

https://x.com/damovgc/status/1819644175119212899?s=46&t=fDxHQLlKCKU_ddfszOAZ6w

Damo 💙 (@DamoVGC) on X

Regulation H looks to be more bulky - here‘s some speeds to watch:

152, Adamant Palafin
150, Modest Hydreigon
149, Timid Gholdengo
142, Adamant Annihilape
139, Adamant Baxcalibur
136, Modest Gholdengo
112, Timid Blood Moon
95, Jolly Dondozo (190)
87, Adamant Dondozo (174)

1/2

Twitter · Aug 3, 2024, 7:59 AM

[mighty stump]

Just to add Pelipper hits 128 on Timid

[solid frigate]

Speed tiers are finally slow

[bold geode]

Lmao Ursaluna regular can outspeed Adamant Baxcalibur with TW

(use TR dumbass)

What's the trend on Palafin bulk and speed wise? I just got mine at max HP max attack tbh

[solid frigate]

I’m Using Choice Band so idk

[craggy dagger]

max speed max attack

[nocturne holly]

Anyone?

[craggy dagger]

though i’ll prolly calc some later

[bold geode]

@next stump question

[opal trout]

Torkoal took the kind offer! Then proceeds to delete the opposing team

[chrome knot]

in game torkoal jumps for joy

then proceeds to bomb them its cute

[bold geode]

https://pokepast.es/f485c01fae1788f2
You think no Protect aight on shroom or should I dump Puff

[next stump]

you should probably run protect if you already have haze

[chrome knot]

^

[bold geode]

Wait that's wrong shit
I don't have Haze

Only been a few instances out of many where I've missed it but I wanted more input

[solid frigate]

why almost all the turtles are precious

[nocturne holly]

Dillon what do you think I can do for the last slot on here https://pokepast.es/179bca81a65e8040
Thinking if fari or sylv

[next stump]

it's gonna be tough to play specs ghold without speed control

I'd personally start my testing with something like Talonflame or Peli

[craggy dagger]

peli might do better for dengo's survivability

[nocturne holly]

How would peli work with harc tho

Peli would be so good on this but reluctant because of harc

[next stump]

pelipper benefits palafin, gholdengo, and amoonguss