competitive_discussion

[chrome knot]

nah

was half way there

[balmy glen]

Most of their teams is just meta 6 with slight changes

[graceful flare]

Only if pokemon made their tournaments like fortnite

[balmy glen]

???

[graceful flare]

Have u never played fn

Like are u under a rock

[chrome knot]

LOL

[balmy glen]

???

[graceful flare]

I mean that they set a global tournament for everyone at a specific time and anyone can play it from their home

Unless it's like word championship or fncs u need to qualify at home and then they pay for a ticket and hotel to stay In near the place the event is taking place

[patent marsh]

no we will probably see double restricted next year

[graceful flare]

For pokemon u need to probably like 6 or 7 k on plane tickets to go to so many different countries and then play there

[patent marsh]

we just needed more formats to keep the game fresh before gen 10

[graceful flare]

So scraw is lying about reg h with no restriceted

[patent marsh]

no reg h has no legendaries at all

[graceful flare]

When is it then

[patent marsh]

not even urshifu rapid strike but we will probably see another regulation next year with double restricted

[patent marsh]

reg H starts next month

[torn parrot]

I got my pizza

[cyan smelt]

sick of gholdengo

[solid frigate]

what the fuck happened

[cyan smelt]

great tera ghpst wp annihilape

[torn parrot]

Gholdengo is pretty annoying

As a gholdengo user

[nocturne holly]

https://pokepast.es/c2cb631307c72927 thoughts? I need speed control for the team but idk what fits😭

[solid frigate]

tbf make sense

[timber falcon]

me and you both

[timber falcon]

have u tried murkrow

[nocturne holly]

No

Ig I can try it

[timber falcon]

its a pretty nice option tbh, foul play, tailwind, haze maybe? Even thunderwave.

[dapper crag]

Murkrow's moveset:

Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Assurance, Astonish, Brave Bird, Double-Edge, Drill Peck, Dual Wingbeat, Facade, Feint Attack, Fly, Foul Play, Frustration, Giga Impact, Lash Out, Natural Gift, Payback, Peck, Pluck, Pursuit, Quick Attack, Retaliate, Return, Secret Power, Sky Attack, Steel Wing, Sucker Punch, Take Down, Thief, U-turn, Wing Attack

Special Moves

Air Cutter, Air Slash, Dark Pulse, Dream Eater, Gust, Heat Wave, Hex, Hidden Power, Hurricane, Hyper Beam, Icy Wind, Mud-Slap, Night Shade, Ominous Wind, Psychic, Psychic Noise, Round, Shadow Ball, Snarl, Snore, Swift, Tera Blast, Twister, Uproar

Status Moves

Attract, Calm Mind, Captivate, Confide, Confuse Ray, Curse, Defog, Detect, Double Team, Embargo, Endure, Feather Dance, Flatter, Haze, Mean Look, Mimic, Mirror Move, Nasty Plot, Nightmare, Perish Song, Protect, Psych Up, Psycho Shift, Quash, Rain Dance, Rest, Roost, Scary Face, Screech, Sleep Talk, Snatch, Spite, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Tailwind, Taunt, Thunder Wave, Torment, Toxic, Whirlwind

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Murkrow.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[nocturne holly]

Yea was thinking of hydreigon cuz it can do tw and do a ton of damage but double dragon doesn’t sound that great
Or is it ok idk 😭

[timber falcon]

dragapult would be a nuisance

but with the dgleam spammer flutter gone, looks fine

except it also adds more fighting weakness? but idk if that matters much.

[cyan smelt]

empoleon might be good rn with competitive

[timber falcon]

i mean ive seen it once'

what impact would it have?

[cyan smelt]

same as kilowattrel ig

[timber falcon]

?

[dapper crag]

Empoleon's moveset:

Physical Moves

Aerial Ace, Aqua Jet, Avalanche, Bide, Body Slam, Brick Break, Bulldoze, Covet, Cut, Dig, Dive, Double Hit, Double-Edge, Drill Peck, Dual Wingbeat, Earthquake, Facade, False Swipe, Flail, Fling, Flip Turn, Frustration, Fury Attack, Fury Cutter, Giga Impact, Headbutt, Ice Spinner, Knock Off, Lash Out, Liquidation, Metal Claw, Natural Gift, Peck, Pluck, Pound, Power Trip, Return, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Tomb, Secret Power, Shadow Claw, Steel Wing, Strength, Tackle, Take Down, Throat Chop, Triple Axel, Waterfall, Wave Crash

Special Moves

Air Cutter, Air Slash, Blizzard, Brine, Bubble, Bubble Beam, Chilling Water, Disarming Voice, Echoed Voice, Flash Cannon, Grass Knot, Hidden Power, Hydro Cannon, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Mud-Slap, Round, Scald, Signal Beam, Snore, Steel Beam, Surf, Swift, Tera Blast, Uproar, Vacuum Wave, Water Gun, Water Pledge, Water Pulse, Weather Ball, Whirlpool

Status Moves

Agility, Aqua Ring, Attract, Captivate, Charm, Confide, Defog, Double Team, Endure, Feather Dance, Growl, Hail, Haze, Helping Hand, Hone Claws, Iron Defense, Laser Focus, Metal Sound, Mist, Mud Sport, Protect, Psych Up, Quash, Rain Dance, Rest, Roar, Roost, Scary Face, Sing, Sleep Talk, Snowscape, Stealth Rock, Substitute, Supersonic, Swagger, Swords Dance, Toxic, Water Sport, Work Up, Yawn

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Empoleon.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[timber falcon]

im not seeing the correlation

[cyan smelt]

it's late and i'm tired idk lol

[timber falcon]

fair enough

[nocturne holly]

Mhm it’d make me more weak because I also have dengo

[nocturne holly]

wbt fari? Anti prio and tr

[cyan smelt]

I think I want to keep rilla, pala and add incin but idk what else to use

[solid frigate]

Maybe can try Peli Archa as a Secondary mode cuz Palafin also benefit in Rain

[bold geode]

What else you got

[cyan smelt]

Stuff that isn't working

[bold geode]

Peli Arch and the Pala Incin Rilla can be good
Palafin Incin Rilla Goldie is also something

[cyan smelt]

Arch might be good seeing as it resists gholdengo

[solid frigate]

And also very good synergy with others as well

[torn parrot]

I sure love my speedy tailwind setting empoleon

[cyan smelt]

Do you think pelipper arch incin palafin rilla and gholdengo?

Or maybe overqwil

[bold geode]

Possibly
Maybe Farigiraf helps there too just to like
Hello against TR

[dapper crag]

Which set is better? (Booster energy for the second one)

[bold geode]

Or something else idk

[cyan smelt]

Maybe I'll try farig just to help against fake out and tr

That seems way more solid than what I had

[calm gulch]

#BullyMonke

[bold geode]

Go away mfer

#BullyYosta

[nocturne holly]

Bax and dengo together?

[timber falcon]

doesnt stop tw and foul play

decided to swap it round, instead of rilla i think indeedee can help out a lot

salamance shouldnt be there

but the whol idea is weak armour and unberdon will be my fast mode, and then primarina and 2 others will be the tr mode

thoughts???

[chrome knot]

hey dumb question

doesn't neutralizing gas disable zero to hero swap..?

[dapper crag]

Ability: Neutralizing Gas

While this Pokemon is active, Abilities have no effect. This Ability activates before hazards and other Abilities take effect. Does not affect the As One, Battle Bond, Comatose, Disguise, Gulp Missile, Ice Face, Multitype, Neutralizing Gas, Power Construct, RKS System, Schooling, Shields Down, Stance Change, Tera Shift, Zen Mode, or Zero to Hero Abilities.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[timber falcon]

nope

[dapper crag]

I think neutralizing has has more to do with like, offensive/defensive abilities

[chrome knot]

interesting

[dapper crag]

Things like levitate

It's basically mold breaker but british

[timber falcon]

basically it doesnt affect the ability if the ability is fully part of the mons structure???

[chrome knot]

the fuck are you saying

[nocturne holly]

No

[timber falcon]

anyone here use throat spray prim?

[nocturne holly]

Does it neutralize regenerato?

[dapper crag]

Throat spray toxtricity is busted

[nocturne holly]

I don’t think so because both abilities happen outside of battle

[dapper crag]

Don't think so

[nocturne holly]

I think drago does

[timber falcon]

yep

unless sabelye has made an error

[nocturne holly]

damn

[torn parrot]

bwahacough is such aladder legend i swaer
guy is relentless with his tyraniter lycanrock

[nocturne holly]

ok but thoughts on bax and dengo on a team together? Like they don’t share any weaknesses but they’re weak to a lot of the same mons
Also I’m using np dengo and almost max atk bax with sd

[timber falcon]

whats the synergy though

as in why do they have to be together

[solid frigate]

Dengo Resist Dragon And Fairy
Bax kills Ground types

in Rain or Snow its not bad in theory

[timber falcon]

but like

wait lemme actually look at the sets

yeah id say the team would have to be in different modes if theyre both set up sets

[solid frigate]

Or just use Specs Dengo?

[timber falcon]

specs dengo looks good there if its to cover for baxes weakness

[solid frigate]

Fairy,Dragon and Fighting are the Main ones to be consider

well its more like Fairy,Dragon and Anihillape

[timber falcon]

dragapult seems to be on the rise

seeing as its the fastest rn lol, except electrode

https://pokepast.es/e4180b04f8c13aac thoughts?

i think the team looks pretty solid

[solid frigate]

electrode sucks anyway

[timber falcon]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9vgc2024regh-2172180907 an ideal game here, depending on what muy opponent leads and which mons they have, i keep in sneasler or armourouge

[solid frigate]

Psyspam Soft TR?

Why does it feel Pelipper weak

[timber falcon]

stored power

[solid frigate]

Pelipper Archaludon weak

[timber falcon]

i havent gone up against that mu

hmm

[solid frigate]

yeah this team shouts Peli Archaludon weak

[timber falcon]

idk i feel like if i play my cards right it would be fine

id probs go tr mode for such an MU, and im still deciding my last tr mo

[solid frigate]

Amoonguss?

[timber falcon]

i want something that will do damage

[solid frigate]

get secondary redirection and Sleep?

[timber falcon]

eh maybe

[solid frigate]

Outside of Torkal then idk

[nocturne holly]

Both of them are set up
Bax is like almost max atk but I use dd as a win con
Dengo is just LO set up
Should I switch something to non set up?

I could do specs or scarf dengo

[solid frigate]

Specs Dengo Offensive or Scarf Trick Dengo

[timber falcon]

i feel like amoongus is more of an "looks good on paper" mon. Im not seeing the situiations id like it to be in

[nocturne holly]

I can’t do peli because I have harc on the team

[round turret]

https://pokepast.es/45ba2290528acff1 would this team be fine for competitive?

[solid frigate]

but a TR mon that does damage

And dont want to recommend Snorlax cuz i made Tofu mad

[nocturne holly]

Yea looks decent

[timber falcon]

looks odd to me

[solid frigate]

if you want to use Specs you dont really use Trick

[round turret]

What can I exchange for Trick?

[timber falcon]

bm ursaluna looks a bit outa place?

[solid frigate]

Any Coverage move

[solid frigate]

also BM Ursa’s EVs looks Off

[round turret]

What can I use for bm ursa EVs for this team?

[torn parrot]

I love this artist

[solid frigate]

thats very noice

[torn parrot]

This team holds a special place in my heart

Forever

[chrome knot]

nono thats right

you lock in phys attackers to specs LOL

protect on a scarf mon however

[round turret]

I didn't quite know what to do for the last move

He's mostly gonna be final gambit into my tr

[chrome knot]

uturn? idk if it gets that

[solid frigate]

i just dont think thats more practical than Scarf Trick cuz you guaranteed to get the trick off

[chrome knot]

wtaf are u talking about

im NOT making someone faster

[solid frigate]

Maybe i just play TR with that

[chrome knot]

u could do shadow claw over rage fist so you dont have to take damage to deal back since ur aiming to go first, and uturn over protect

[round turret]

That makes more sense

Is there anything I can do better for my BM Ursa EVs?

Torrent said the EVs were a bit out of place

[chrome knot]

usually just 252HP/252SpAtk/4 in lowest Def stat

[timber falcon]

theres actually so much tr this reg

im kinda sick of seeing it

[chrome knot]

dont take words you find here as fact from many iwl

[round turret]

Alright lol

Thank you

[solid frigate]

told ya its gonna be TR heavy reg

[solid frigate]

ok thats just uncalled for

[timber falcon]

i might go gambit for last mon'

works in tr, and cooks the psychic types

[chrome knot]

its jus true

yall are so good at wafflin sometimes

[nocturne holly]

Maya what dengo set are you using

[torn parrot]

just using specs tera steel
i love the immediate burst

[nocturne holly]

Yea I didn’t see protect on scarf ape but shadow claw iver rage fist and you could do u turn or coaching (though I don’t think it’d be of much use on this team) over protect
Also you could run a little bit of spe on bm ursa depending if you wanna speed creep stuff in tw

[nocturne holly]

what are partnering it with

[timber falcon]

[torn parrot]

fake tears tailwind ribombee (:

[nocturne holly]

the fuck 😭

[round turret]

I'm gonna use U-Turn in case a ghost type stares at my annihilape

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 743: Ribombee

Types

Bug/Fairy

Abilities

Honey Gather, Shield Dust, Sweet Veil (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

60/55/60/95/70/124

Total

464

Other Formes

Ribombee-Totem

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[nocturne holly]

honestly since it’s scarf a ton of ghosts are scared of you

But yea u turn is a good positioning move

[round turret]

He's mostly gonna be final gambit, but it can't hit ghosts lmao. Unless i were to use shadow claw which would hurt like a mf

[timber falcon]

what is this matchmaking showdown

[nocturne holly]

ok so I neeed dengo help
do bax and dengo work together
Im doing Lo setup and almost max atk bax with dd as like a win con
you think like scarf or specs dengo would be better r

[solid frigate]

i fought someone in 1500 when i was 1200

[torn parrot]

id imagine they have pretty great synergy
uhmm
i guess it depends what kind of team you run

whats ur team

[near smelt]

I know this will get me roasted but
With the prevalance of rain I wanted to run alatria to use cloud nine. Is their any partners or sets that can work that has cotton guard

[junior blade]

Any sticky web counters?

[foggy lodge]

What does cotron guard do

[dapper crag]

Move: Cotton Guard

Raises the user's Defense by 3 stages.

Type

Grass

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Snatch

Affected by Snatch.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[foggy lodge]

Ah boosts defense

It's bad tbh

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 334: Altaria

Types

Dragon/Flying

Abilities

Natural Cure, Cloud Nine (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

75/70/90/70/105/80

Total

490

Other Formes

Altaria-Mega

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[next stump]

those are some rough stats

[junior blade]

Are there any good pokemons that can deal with sticky web?

[near smelt]

Yeaaaaah but a lot of the hard hitters are gone. So I thought maybe I can find a niche? And it looks like it can serve one

[nocturne holly]

https://pokepast.es/30d8015194623003 this is the team

I’m still iffy on the murkrow slot

[torn parrot]

well if your running murkrow you could always do the haze combo with specs gholdengo

[next stump]

70ATK and SpA means you’re stuck as a support pokemon most likely

[near smelt]

And it's support pool isn't bad 😮

[dapper crag]

Altaria's moveset:

Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Astonish, Body Slam, Brave Bird, Breaking Swipe, Bulldoze, Double-Edge, Dragon Claw, Dragon Rush, Dual Wingbeat, Earthquake, Endeavor, Facade, False Swipe, Fly, Frustration, Fury Attack, Giga Impact, Iron Tail, Natural Gift, Outrage, Peck, Play Rough, Pluck, Pursuit, Rage, Return, Rock Smash, Secret Power, Sky Attack, Steel Wing, Take Down, Thief, Trailblaze

Special Moves

Air Cutter, Alluring Voice, Dazzling Gleam, Disarming Voice, Draco Meteor, Dragon Breath, Dragon Pulse, Dream Eater, Echoed Voice, Fire Blast, Fire Spin, Flamethrower, Heat Wave, Hidden Power, Hurricane, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Ice Beam, Incinerate, Moonblast, Mud-Slap, Ominous Wind, Round, Snore, Solar Beam, Swift, Tera Blast, Twister, Uproar, Weather Ball

Status Moves

Agility, Attract, Captivate, Confide, Cotton Guard, Defog, Double Team, Dragon Cheer, Dragon Dance, Endure, Feather Dance, Growl, Haze, Heal Bell, Helping Hand, Hone Claws, Mimic, Mirror Move, Mist, Perish Song, Power Swap, Protect, Psych Up, Rain Dance, Refresh, Rest, Roar, Roost, Safeguard, Sing, Sleep Talk, Snowscape, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Tailwind, Toxic, Will-O-Wisp, Wonder Room

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Altaria.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[torn parrot]

tho honestly if not murkrow i feel like peliper slots in really well

[foggy lodge]

That thing learns wil o wisp what

But it's bad tbh

And more with a cotton guard set

Boosting your defense is only worth it if you are a body press mon

[nocturne holly]

Wbt harc on the team

[torn parrot]

right thats true
would be inconvinient

[near smelt]

Having it be able to live through things with weather disabling debilating move could work

I think long as it can stay on the field and be annoyance and debilitate/ weaken for other Mon it could work at least long enough

It would just depend who I would pair with

[next stump]

in doubles it doesn’t really matter if something can sit on the field for a long time if it doesn’t do anything

will o wisp is nice, helping hand is nice, but that’s about it

otherwise you’re launching base 70SpA Draco Meteors or clicking Breaking Swipe to lower attack and that doesn’t really amount to much

[near smelt]

Haze?
Breaking swipe?

Or maybe having a trapping move to prevent switch in (fire spin)?

[next stump]

I think if you’re truly dead set on running it, probably Wisp/Haze/Breaking Swipe or Draco/4th filler move like Helping Hand or a flying STAB

and just go full bulk

but your team WILL need something that threatens with offense because Altaria just sits there

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/2a4c5456fedf409e

Got a team,Kingambit might change to Dengo or other Steel types

[near smelt]

That I'm okay with. I would just need help pairing good offensive mons in that case

It would be smart to have a fantasy core.
So a fairy and steel type to help cover it

Primariana? Sylveon?

[nocturne holly]

Can I have your specs dengo set :3

[bold geode]

@next stump how fast Maushold go?

[next stump]

are you full support

[molten oasis]

Pretty sure it hits 181

Correction 179

[bold geode]

I was talking like terms of MausApe

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 925: Maushold

Type

Normal

Abilities

Friend Guard, Cheek Pouch, Technician (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

74/75/70/65/75/111

Total

470

Other Formes

Maushold-Four

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[molten oasis]

Uhhhh

[bold geode]

Fuck that's fast lmao

[molten oasis]

Idk dengo outspeeds and OHKOS with funny button

[solid frigate]

for low Power Format they are watching Fast and Furious

[molten oasis]

Mine does

[bold geode]

That's Scarf though

[molten oasis]

Fair enough

[bold geode]

I think imma try the Reg Ursa approach, it's just do I want shroom (cuz Incin P2 Amoongus and either Ursaluna with TR or Palafin for swapping around might go hard)
Or Rilla cuz Psyspam scary

Like I'm leaning more Rilla but

[molten oasis]

I’m not really seeing Hatt too much so you could go amoonguss

[bold geode]

But Armadee

Imma have to consult Yotam actually to be sure cuz I remember he used those 4

[molten oasis]

go for it

[nocturne holly]

Scarfed?

normal dengo doesn’t outspeed maus unless it’s mad slow

[molten oasis]

yes scarf

[atomic portal]

its max spatk max speed modest

[nocturne holly]

Yea I already got it

[craggy dagger]

[molten oasis]

you making anything for reg h yet?

https://pokepast.es/fab9d8ceb7a61a58 thoughts on some more members for this?

[rustic mountain]

[whole ibex]

I wanna remake my old reg A team
https://pokepast.es/ce905c4e21ce81ca

[molten oasis]

how's the grind

[rustic mountain]

i havent played today haha

[molten oasis]

gnna be honest idk if garchomp gets to click EQ in this format lol

[rustic mountain]

ill prolly play some games later see where the ladders at now

[molten oasis]

i doubt flamigo is gonna be good tbh

[whole ibex]

Yeah That's what I'm concerned about

[molten oasis]

bascu over floatzel fs

[rustic mountain]

its still useable but yea eq is fucked

[nocturne holly]

Uhhhh dengo

[molten oasis]

sure anything else?

[rustic mountain]

less u wanna still opt for it w/ rilla going to be everywhere

[molten oasis]

yea

[whole ibex]

I’m not keep floatzel.

[rustic mountain]

stomping/dragon claw and like sd i think is fine. can even try scale shot if u want

[molten oasis]

good lol

archaludon over chomp maybe, tree's idea also works

[whole ibex]

Like I said, I’m remaking the team. That was my REG A team.

[nocturne holly]

I think you need some speed control maybe crow or whims?

[whole ibex]

That’s what I’m doing, though. I don’t know if I’m doing scale shot

[molten oasis]

krow fucking sucks

it is such a liability

[rustic mountain]

yea scale shot was more like if u feel u want the built in speed control

theres other ways to give urself speed control

[nocturne holly]

What happened to t wave grim

[rustic mountain]

it still exists

[molten oasis]

i didn't test screens cuz it seemed clunky

[nocturne holly]

Nah he had it on his team previously

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/fab9d8ceb7a61a58 im playing with these 4

[rustic mountain]

ahh gotcha

[whole ibex]

Honestly, I’m pretty sure everyone in my regulation A-Team is getting swap except Flamigo and Garchomp

[molten oasis]

...

[rustic mountain]

screens like previous lower power formats is kinda mid

[molten oasis]

flamigo should be the first to go

[molten oasis]

yea

[rustic mountain]

theyll b 1 or 2 players that do well w/ it but idt its gna be an archetype thats common

[molten oasis]

snow may be good but idk about grimm snreens

although rain is fucking everywhere so idk about that tbh

[rustic mountain]

snows a bit different tbh. double screens in 1 move is good + weather control

[nocturne holly]

Maybe fari and then you could go gambit too

[molten oasis]

true yea

[rustic mountain]

but as u mentioned it also has a lot of competition

[molten oasis]

this team has too many weird speed tiers for tr

[whole ibex]

It’s not that bad

[molten oasis]

its pretty bad

[nocturne holly]

That’s something I hate about the new meta

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 973: Flamigo

Types

Flying/Fighting

Abilities

Scrappy, Tangled Feet, Costar (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

82/115/74/75/64/90

Total

500

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[molten oasis]

those are not great stats

[rustic mountain]

flamigos ok

[nocturne holly]

The speed tiers are wack

[molten oasis]

well i also dont necesarilly want gambit

[rustic mountain]

it can do well into like incin/rilla stuff only issue is item choice and its pretty frail

[molten oasis]

i already dont feel a good mu into mausape idt that helps

or dozo

[rustic mountain]

r u saying this specifically for this reg? or just generally wen a new meta comes out

[foggy lodge]

idk how to beat Annihilape in general

[molten oasis]

well ig mausape is kinda doable if i can get prima set up and running

[foggy lodge]

Even in reg G it's problematic for me

Scarf final gambit is stressful

[molten oasis]

ape doesnt appreciate speed control either but if maus clicks beat up im cooked

[rustic mountain]

bait tera + ko before it gets boosted or outspeed and ko it b4 it can utilize said boosts

[nocturne holly]

Just generally I hate adjusting to them
Especially this reg since the power level is so much lower

[whole ibex]

How do you feel about Empoleon?

[molten oasis]

meh

it may have a nice as like, anti incin mon but idk

[rustic mountain]

yea i mean the meta will settle

[foggy lodge]

Yeah atleast the animaus archetype dies when Annihilape goes down

[rustic mountain]

early format is always gna b chaotic

[molten oasis]

im gonna take it no one knows what to add here then? lol https://pokepast.es/fab9d8ceb7a61a58

before you say dengo what does it do for me

[nocturne holly]

Also what do you think of murkrow vs whims

[rustic mountain]

yea its really linear in most cases. ive only played a few players that actually played it well

[molten oasis]

that goes for everything i'd like reasons for why to put these on

[rustic mountain]

i think they offer different support options

generally i think whims is just better

[nocturne holly]

Mhm I’m testing both

[rustic mountain]

im boutta test a palbalance team w/ hydreigon over sylveon

see how it fairs

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-mrbean-bean-mr-bean-holiday-mr-bean-holiday-movie-gif-11625313334009911234

[nocturne holly]

Hydreigon is cool

Does a ton of damage +tw

I would def go for it but double dragon does not sound fun 😔

[foggy lodge]

I've been thinking of Porygon2 but i don't know if Farigiraf is better

[rustic mountain]

honestly i cant say my advice will net you anything. ive just been using recycled concepts so far

[molten oasis]

mk

[foggy lodge]

Armor tail protects from the double fake out things with Inci Rilla and also jet punch from Palafin

[molten oasis]

guess im on my own then

[foggy lodge]

But P2 is more offensive and bulkier in general

[rustic mountain]

try just putting 2 mons u feel will fill a role and then take it from there. the 4 u have seem solid

[foggy lodge]

waaa

[molten oasis]

they are i like em

hydreigon good imo

no super notable fairies so it gets to play the game

[nocturne holly]

I think fari is better rn because of all the FO

[rustic mountain]

id say anything u feel like isnt covered there mu wise and try and plug in a mon that fills that role. like pawmot could be solid there maybe. fake out/electric/fighting coverage + revival blessing

[molten oasis]

i'll keep that in mind

im gonna go look for stuff for mausape/dozo probably

[royal dagger]

Can somone do union circle with me for BBQ to get more BP

[nocturne holly]

OH SHIT PAWMOT IS BAKC

[molten oasis]

not really no

[nocturne holly]

I FORGOT ABOUT IT

[molten oasis]

its still niche

[rustic mountain]

it could be good tho. honestly might be back on dozo teams w/ glimm and shit haha i havent seen it much but i feel like its cyclical

[molten oasis]

im so not ready to fight dozo man lol

dozo's fucking annoying

[rustic mountain]

#1040555642668199936

[royal dagger]

Thanks

[rustic mountain]

yea honestly been mixed for the kommo team, wisp on harc helps but it isnt 100%. for my palafin team haze p much makes it an auto win unless i majorly mess up

[molten oasis]

prima gets haze but i dont have room for it lol

[rustic mountain]

yea

i mean u have 2 other slots

[molten oasis]

a line could be fast encoring smth ig

[rustic mountain]

it would work for both, lock dozo into protect and ape into like bulk up or protect

[nocturne holly]

Does dozo outspeed and Ohko? Or do you have to tera

[molten oasis]

on a snow bax team i had a9 fast encore was pretty helpful against ape yea

[solid frigate]

Hyper Voice Moonblast Calm Mind and Protec?

[molten oasis]

yea

maybe a9 honestly

brings weather control and screens too

[nocturne holly]

You could try whims you’d also get the speed control

[craggy dagger]

ooooooo

i likey

[nocturne holly]

Or a9 looks good on that tbh

[rustic mountain]

for palafin? unless its like tera blast tera grass no it cant ohko and usually i have palafin next to a fo user so its not an issue. and i also generally will have tw up wen palafin reenters so i dont need to worry about taking damage b4 haze

[molten oasis]

lets try a9

[nocturne holly]

Nah wisp on harc

[molten oasis]

nice, thoughts on any members?

[rustic mountain]

oh yea i 100% need to tera haha itll ohko w/ crash or eq

[nocturne holly]

Yeah tho I haven’t seen a lot of eq dozo
Rilla does things 😔

[chrome knot]

band head smash variant could go hard

[molten oasis]

hmm

[chrome knot]

i think hydreigon used to be a tw setter too?

[nocturne holly]

Band harc best harc

[rustic mountain]

usually order up/crash/protect/sub is the most common ive seen but eq has been around weirdly enough

[molten oasis]

i want ep for uh, ep for arhcaludon cuz otherwise i kinda dont have a mu into it

[chrome knot]

ur arch mu kinda writes itself no?

[molten oasis]

wdym?

[chrome knot]

if its balance prima or even harc 1v1s it

[nocturne holly]

If you do a9 you get weather control

[molten oasis]

how does harc 1v1 it?

https://pokepast.es/db112126d1c1b60c current thing, i'll consider band

head smash missed a lot when i ran it yesterday lol

[chrome knot]

252+ Atk Choice Band Arcanine-Hisui Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Archaludon: 123-145 (62.4 - 73.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[molten oasis]

dayum wtf

[chrome knot]

you bonk the fuck outta it

however if its weather arch ur kinda cooked

[molten oasis]

well....

[chrome knot]

non stab ep fro hydreigon i feel it wont do much ?

[molten oasis]

theyre all weather arch

[whole ibex]

Anyone Wanna Vc?

[chrome knot]

ive seen lots of arch balance

[molten oasis]

252 SpA Life Orb Hydreigon Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 68 SpD Assault Vest Archaludon: 112-133 (56.8 - 67.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

2hko isnt too bad

[chrome knot]

thats not bad actually

way more forgiving than id first thought

[molten oasis]

wait actually i forgot im modest

244+ SpA Life Orb Hydreigon Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 68 SpD Assault Vest Archaludon: 122-146 (61.9 - 74.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

i have weather control with a9, ig i have lines

https://pokepast.es/97a3c85895a184aa heres the current paste

[nocturne holly]

Yeah those 5 look really solid

Finding a 6th member is really hard 😔

[molten oasis]

its my weakness

[nocturne holly]

I have 5 that are really good together and can’t fucking figure out what to run as the last slot

[chrome knot]

bax

@craggy dagger stimky

[molten oasis]

I already have Hydra u sure?

[craggy dagger]

why not an intim check?
gambit might work here
or ape

[chrome knot]

gambit could be cute

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

black glasses sd gambit tho

[molten oasis]

I could see that yea

Finishes fantasy core too

[craggy dagger]

nods

[chrome knot]

waahhhh

https://fxtwitter.com/punchingcat/status/1819176340580446495?s=46&t=FIWgOpf0yRQcHBdRCEbKnw

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/39a757b03b5ed0f0 how’s this?

[chrome knot]

looks good to me

[craggy dagger]

am curious though-
why hydra?

[nocturne holly]

I have a kinda similar team
What are you gonna do for speed control
Icy wind a9?

[molten oasis]

Icy wind a9

[chrome knot]

hydreigon is good rn

[molten oasis]

Good for psyspam

WITHOUT HAT

[chrome knot]

what the hell i send u gif of 2 cats kissing and you bite me

[craggy dagger]

[molten oasis]

Tera steel levitate resists the ursas

It’s good I think it’s being underexplored

[chrome knot]

but it opens u up to torkoal gaming

hydreigon cannot be ur tera vs psyspam u resist the entire core

[craggy dagger]

i see

[chrome knot]

butthead

[craggy dagger]

[bold geode]

You're both poopyheads

[bold geode]

Got em

[chrome knot]

turns you into a spectrier plush lmfao !!

[bold geode]

Mfer made me marketable

[chrome knot]

[bold geode]

How could you

[chrome knot]

bc itd be funny

dw nova can be

[molten oasis]

Ik

[rustic mountain]

hydreigon seems pretty good so far

getting more use out of it then when sylveon was there haha

[craggy dagger]

me ice horse

what

so you can be calyrex-??

[chrome knot]

wHA

does that even imply

[bold geode]

Honestly
Can you make me Zamazenta

[nocturne holly]

https://pokepast.es/ca10f2463e840079 amoonguss or rilla on this? Also thoughts on what I could do for the last slot? Thinking of a9 cause I get speed control through icy wind, weather control, and screens

[chrome knot]

amongus

[nocturne holly]

Wbt for the last slot

[chrome knot]

some sort of speed control

[nocturne holly]

A9, murkrow, or whims? Or hydreigon but idk about double dragon

Hydreigon would just give me dark stab tbh

[chrome knot]

yes we become as one

[chrome knot]

just start testing tbh

[craggy dagger]

[ember linden]

This has felt good so far https://pokepast.es/c8796d5a458d0f26

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2172304199-d3ez1w20reyak18xm0meitm4dwaoxjupw

[nocturne holly]

Maushold ohkoing itself on Rocky helmet shroom is fucking hilarious

[ember linden]

Yeah lol

[nocturne holly]

I missed banded harc

my baby

[ember linden]

It’s viable

[nocturne holly]

It’s pretty good rn

[ember linden]

I’m saying Viable bc Of Basc Rain

[rustic mountain]

u abandoned it at its lowest, u dont deserve it at its best

[craggy dagger]

https://pokepast.es/36ee3f944872d6a8

[ember linden]

Banded gambit

[nocturne holly]

We were on a break so it doesn’t count

[chrome knot]

band gambit is terrifying

[ember linden]

Psyspam’s worst nightmare

[chrome knot]

no thats band lando t

[nocturne holly]

that’s houndoom
Or hydreigon

[ember linden]

Houndoom 😭🙏

[rustic mountain]

[ember linden]

Incineroar ahh

[nocturne holly]

Fuck I forgot about incin

https://pokepast.es/cb58946e47c33f54 scarf or specs dengo on this?

[solid frigate]

how did you forgot about incin lol

[polar canyon]

I was right nasty plot sinistcha is awesome now

Now it can't be fully countered by tornadus chien pao urshifu single strike flutter mane chi yu

[solid frigate]

moment when we are still these Pokemon Pilled

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 1013: Sinistcha

Types

Grass/Ghost

Abilities

Hospitality, Heatproof (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

71/60/106/121/80/70

Total

508

Other Formes

Sinistcha-Masterpiece

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[nocturne holly]

Decent sp atk

[polar canyon]

Has spread giga drain

That also burns

And misses, it also misses

[dapper crag]

Move: Matcha Gotcha

Has a 20% chance to burn the target. The user recovers 1/2 the HP lost by the target, rounded half up. If Big Root is held by the user, the HP recovered is 1.3x normal, rounded half down. The target thaws out if it is frozen.

Type

Grass

Category

Special

Power

80

Accuracy

90

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Defrost

Thaws the user if frozen.

Heal

Cannot be selected under Heal Block.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[polar canyon]

So like big survivability

Could do calm mind or stuff too

This a good little guy and it really shines now that all its bullies got expelled from class

[nocturne holly]

What item are you running

[polar canyon]

Sitrus

Team is very much a work in progress but lemme share

https://pokepast.es/388588f73d295570

you can tell its pretty bad

and sinistcha is the one I put thought into

I mean the only math I did is living modest max ghold non life orb shadow ball

and outspeeding 121 base speed in tailwind

also volcarona that thing is still awesome as always but now theres no surging strikes to worry about

[nocturne holly]

I think you need some speed control

Oh nevermind tailwind dnite?

Volc also gets tw too

Speaking of speed control

https://pokepast.es/cb58946e47c33f54 what can I replace murkrow with on this

[polar canyon]

Has it not been working?

I should try band harc again

Stealing your idea that you probably took from somewhere else too

[woeful epoch]

Whimsicott

And maybe tera poison on Bax

[mighty stump]

Looks like loses to MausApe

Wasting EVs on Gallade

[unreal storm]

Can anyone explain??

[mighty stump]

Ring Target

Probably the held item

[unreal storm]

That's what I was thinking, but I don't know why dragapult with ring target would switch into zamazenta

[mighty stump]

They forgot.

[unreal storm]

Trueeee

[mighty stump]

Cause anyone using Ring Target is being silly anyways

[unreal storm]

I was soooo confused when that hit lmao

[dapper crag]

Item: Ring Target

The holder's type immunities granted solely by its typing are negated.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[nocturne holly]

Why is that an item 😭

[unreal storm]

For funny shenanigans I guess

I forgot it existed and thought my clip was a glitch

[molten oasis]

This is your new catchphrase

“Loses to mausape”

[foggy lodge]

I suppose they tried to make it an item for trick strats

[bold geode]

Uh oh
Bro broke out the dope pfp

Also at this point, MausApe is just VGC Jesus

[chrome knot]

@mighty stump team fun af has a clunky mu into arch rain like its not terrible just hard to pivot around

[bold geode]

Did it lose to MausApe though

[chrome knot]

neil sent another mausape palafin team and whoever said Incin grass berry wasn't gonna see usage I will literally kiss you and laugh at you over and over @craggy dagger

[nocturne holly]

https://pokepast.es/cfd23ddb5255defc

[ember linden]

It’s a crime to not have haze on murkrow, especially if you have specs gholdengo

Th is Incin grass berry?

[forest arrow]

Incin tera grass sitrus berry lol

[ember linden]

Oh alr that’s what I thought 😭

[forest arrow]

WG or Protect on Peli?

[ember linden]

Depends on the team

[forest arrow]

https://pokepast.es/aa4593946c28bf28

[ember linden]

Idt there’s a definite answer at least yet

[forest arrow]

reg h stuff

[ember linden]

If you’re not worried about Make it Rain or Hyper Voice protect is fine

[knotty mirage]

With how many ting lu on bss fair enough

[forest arrow]

I usually run both in Reg G but i think i want tailwind for Reg H fs

[knotty mirage]

I'm guessing they will try to trick it to ting lu so miraidon can sweep without any problem

[ember linden]

Yeah you’re good

Also change Pelipper’s ability to drizzle

[forest arrow]

My rain does help dengo thats why i was considering

[forest arrow]

lol ty

[gentle crag]

throwdatahh has given 1 Gen Rep to vikxk

[polar canyon]

probably replacing it anyways

[ember linden]

So many times I forgot to give Rillaboom grassy surge 😭

[polar canyon]

volcarona is cool for mausape but thats all I have for it

[solid frigate]

Cheese string

[polar canyon]

I need to have a better plan for rain arch

it really feels like theres 3 cores in early reg h and its mausape rain arch and psyspam

[solid frigate]

Peli Arch Bax

Thats the thing i thought

[polar canyon]

what else am I missing

[solid frigate]

Ursas TR

[polar canyon]

was about to say

[ember linden]

I have Tera Steel Kommo-O

[solid frigate]

Kommo-o IDBP?

[polar canyon]

kommo clangorous soul

[ember linden]

Yeah, with throat chop instead of Iron Head

[solid frigate]

Ok i get why Throat Chop

Slyveon and Primarina’s Hyper voice

[polar canyon]

I forgot sylveon was an option

[ember linden]

Not necessarily it was more to be able to hit ghost types but that is a nice little secondary

[polar canyon]

do you really wanna use sylveon tho with ghold and arch everywhere

[ember linden]

I made it bulletproof for now to be a gholdengo wall until I see a reason to switch to Overcoat or Soundproof, as I could see it go either way between the 3 abilities

[polar canyon]

overcoat is just safety goggles

[solid frigate]

yeah Calm Mind Sylveon does not run Moonblast if i remember,Only Pure Throat Spray Sylveon does so technically you kinda shutted them down

[ember linden]

Yeah

[solid frigate]

Overcoat Lefties is more better if i last Use Kommo-o

[polar canyon]

throat spray sylveon runs moonblast?

I thought pixilate tera blast would just be stronger

[ember linden]

I was aboutta say tera blast is mandatory

[solid frigate]

I forgot that affected by Pixilate

[polar canyon]

before tera yes

[ember linden]

Yeah just all normal type moves

[polar canyon]

no idea how it interacts with fairy and normal tera

but I think you wanna use fire or ground

[solid frigate]

i mean Fire is the tera for Slyveon

[ornate elk]

Wsp

[solid frigate]

its good against Steel

[polar canyon]

probably ground now for archaludon

[solid frigate]

now that Kingambit is back

[solid frigate]

yep and also that

[craggy dagger]

wait why

what am i missing emma

[polar canyon]

incin grass berry?

[ember linden]

Normal tera doesn’t do anything for Sylveon fyi

[polar canyon]

having a resist berry for a tera type sounds crazy

[chrome knot]

ur missing that grass tera incin is GOOD.

[solid frigate]

Grass Tera Incin without AV is ok in this Format

Not that much damage unless you scared of BM ursa

[polar canyon]

ah grass and berry

[craggy dagger]

oh i see

[polar canyon]

I thought you meant like water tera incin with the grass resist berry lol

[ornate elk]

I understand nothimg

[polar canyon]

not used to competitive?

²

[mighty stump]

👁️

[chrome knot]

hi tofu

[mighty stump]

I think Taunt is necessary on Maushold

[polar canyon]

hi tofu

been forcing tera on ape by having a wisp mon in front of it because their mausholds dont have taunt

[solid frigate]

Population Bomb,Taunt,Follow Me and Protect?

[polar canyon]

beat up?

[mighty stump]

No?

Depends on your item

I can forego Protect on CoCl Maus

[polar canyon]

cobalt chlorine maus

[solid frigate]

This is consider as no Beat up strat involved

[polar canyon]

actually I wanna use offensive maushold

the huge 300 bp stab move

just gonna give archaludon instant +6 defense

[solid frigate]

wait i haven’t touched Chemistry for a bit is that a legit Combination

(i mean Cobalt Chloride,But Cobalt is not a Alkali Metal so i don’t think it’s compatible)

[polar canyon]

archaludon makes me wish lando was still in but that would make me wish urshifu was still in and that would make me wish raging bolt was still in

[solid frigate]

Unless 2 Chlorine Atoms

[dapper crag]

Ability: Soundproof

This Pokemon is immune to sound-based moves, unless it used the move.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[polar canyon]

that one is pretty self explanatory

[nocturne holly]

Immune to hyper voice

And the pixilate and liquid voice stuff

[polar canyon]

yep

what do you wanna use with that tho

[rustic mountain]

if ur good yes

[nocturne holly]

Kommo o has i5

Kommo has really solid abilities

Nothing too crazy but nothing terrible

Overcoat is great

[rustic mountain]

how quickly we change sides torrent (terapagos stan to basculegion stan)

[solid frigate]

I change Stans depends on the format

[rustic mountain]

reg g isnt even technically over yet

[polar canyon]

I mean one is gone for the next months

[rustic mountain]

[solid frigate]

[polar canyon]

wonder if we're gonna get eased into legendaries with reintroduced paradoxes again

[rustic mountain]

reg g is confirmed coming back in jan

[mighty stump]

I mastered the mirror in Reg A its free if you Taunt the opposing Maushold

[polar canyon]

return of the bravest bird talonflame next to tusk

[rustic mountain]

p much yea haha

[mighty stump]

Church of Tusk

[polar canyon]

yea thats a long time

[solid frigate]

honestly,i am fine unless they added Xerneas

[rustic mountain]

4 months of reg h not including this month

[ember linden]

Please no

[rustic mountain]

pretty good amount of time

tusk isnt allowed so no worries and wen reg g is back neither will b good

[solid frigate]

This is not gen 6 pls stop

[polar canyon]

get ready for more flutter chi yu nonsense

[ember linden]

Fuck that shit

Drago is eating good lmao

[mighty stump]

Tbf the Alberto Lara special is open for Reg H

[solid frigate]

[polar canyon]

love me boy chi yu

[ember linden]

Kill it

[polar canyon]

never really actually used it with mane

it was the beads of ruin boosted bleakwind storm for me

[rustic mountain]

what was that like chomp corv stuff

completely blanking on the other 4 lmao

[polar canyon]

hope I dont see more bright powder sand veil chomp

[mighty stump]

Yea

[ember linden]

TTar Lycanrock something something

Idr if it was an excadrill format

[polar canyon]

ah yes the gimmick that actually works consistently

endeavor and rock slide flinch spam

sash endeavor and sand chip/rock slide from ttar

ttar honestly feels so hard to kill a lot of the time

always pulls out the flying tera blast

[ember linden]

Fighting type moment

[forest arrow]

Time to pull old Rain-A-Ton back out lol

[polar canyon]

tera blast flying in the face moment

[molten oasis]

Ttar exca seems pretty good

[ember linden]

Tera steel moment

[polar canyon]

still not really hitting it with your fighting moves tho are you

and then exca next to it hits you with hhp

[ember linden]

Change your type and moves on the spot moment

[polar canyon]

oh dude yeah tinkaton

I forgot what the use case was for tinkaton was on that one team

the tofu special

[forest arrow]

https://pokepast.es/04548790a650151a

[ember linden]

Love how you just have that

[forest arrow]

old rental from Tofu a long time ago just bascu instead of floatzel

[solid frigate]

time to use Tinkaton again

its so stupidly Bulky as well

[polar canyon]

big hammer is just for show as it just doesnt use it for any of its moves in battle

I actually liked ohkoing mane with gigaton hammer even with 0 investment

[forest arrow]

The team was really fun to use one of the first teams i used to learn vgc lol

[polar canyon]

they were often tera fairy too

[solid frigate]

Gyarados+Tinkaton is just Makes Tinkaton Bulky as fu-

[polar canyon]

I think I forgot how to use dragonite

[molten oasis]

Idk how good dnite will end up being

[polar canyon]

if chien was still in it would still be as simple as band espeed tera everything dies

[molten oasis]

No ruins tho

[polar canyon]

with archaludon and gholdengo I dont see it getting that much usage

and ape phasing out espeed

[forest arrow]

low kick for stuff like arch gambit etc aint bad tho

[polar canyon]

and those feel like the big 3 rn

for me at least

[molten oasis]

My big 3 is ape Ursa and arch

[polar canyon]

if it loses to all of the big 3 is it worth considering as an offensive option

[forest arrow]

ice spinner for terrains

[polar canyon]

what terrains

just psyspam?

[molten oasis]

Grassy

Rilla exists now

[polar canyon]

grassy is more ignorable

[fickle void]

The best Pokémon in Indigo Disk is Araquanid because it's Araquanid. I feel these unique and distinct traits give Araquanid a serious edge over the competition. Araquanid is both a spider and a bubble which is an extremely powerful combination. Whilst other pokemon have specific niches they perform well in, Araquanid is the only Araquanid in the game and provides a specific Araquanid - centric experience. I expect to see Araquanid in every team going forward owing to everything I've mentioned.

[pallid hare]

So this description is about Ariados, right?

[polar canyon]

water bubble tera liquidation

[forest arrow]

araquanid only clicks liquidation lol

[polar canyon]

araquanid when anything resists water

[ember linden]

Dragonite is fine

[fickle void]

But why use that

[ember linden]

It’ll probably run SD or AV + Coverage

[fickle void]

When you can use araquanid

[molten oasis]

There’s better dragons

[polar canyon]

dragapult

[molten oasis]

But yea dnite will probably be ok

[fickle void]

Such as tera dragon incineroar

[molten oasis]

Bax

[ember linden]

I said fine not better

[molten oasis]

Board statement man

[forest arrow]

I was just throwing an old tinkaton team out there lol

[solid frigate]

Corny’s Alt Account be like

[molten oasis]

Wasn’t directed towards ya

Tink could be ok we’ll see

[forest arrow]

yeah no fs just wanted it to be known im not running it haha

[ember linden]

I’m not taking it any way just clarified

[ornate elk]

Bad no

[solid frigate]

its great but Incin does its stuff already,It can use Thunder Wave tho.

[polar canyon]

I've been having fun with setup sinistcha

[forest arrow]

it can twave gholdengo lmao

[solid frigate]

Thats a Good Niche here

[forest arrow]

helping hand too

[solid frigate]

i might try make that Team later Morning

[ember linden]

I faintly remember a Tinkaton Gigaton Hammering a Mimikyu through disguise on stream lmao

[solid frigate]

Dengo Tinkaton

Sounds Strong but Rain feels like a must

[nocturne holly]

It also helps with the fairy core

Dsf core

anyways still tryna find a last member

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 635: Hydreigon

Types

Dark/Dragon

Abilities

Levitate

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

92/105/90/125/90/98

Total

600

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[nocturne holly]

Hydreigon is cool

Tw too

Kind of like moon

[forest arrow]

it learns tw

could try it

[nocturne holly]

Yea and it puts offensive pressure after

It’s cool

[forest arrow]

still think murkrow or talon but yeah

[nocturne holly]

Murkrow is stinky

[forest arrow]

skill issue

[nocturne holly]

it’s so frail

[molten oasis]

No dude I think murkrow sucks as well

[nocturne holly]

hell you say to me

Square up rn in the ring

[forest arrow]

lol

[molten oasis]

It feels like a liability

[ember linden]

What we think abt this? I’ve gotten no value with Porygon2 yet but Amoon + Porygon + Kommo-O was good in a format with non-restricted legends and paradoxes so I slapped it on to finish up the good type chart. https://pokepast.es/c9a5b0d09ad9ff2a

[forest arrow]

Then run talonflame

[molten oasis]

Where Ursa

[forest arrow]

Bravebird tailwind will o wisp protect quick guard

[ember linden]

Demon Talon set

[nocturne holly]

I think dengo might want a defensive tera if it’s np

[forest arrow]

lol options not saying run all 5 XD

[nocturne holly]

You already have metal coat boosting steel damage

[nocturne holly]

Wait what’s the team

[forest arrow]

for your tean dingus

[ember linden]

I haven’t had any reason to just yet

[nocturne holly]

LMAO

[forest arrow]

will o for burns quick guard for FO

[ember linden]

That instant damage is good w/ fo + amoon

[nocturne holly]

maybe wisp is real ☝️

[forest arrow]

but i mean Will o better you got protect for fo

[molten oasis]

I feel like Bloodmoon can kinda run through this team

[ember linden]

Don’t you have incin on the team or am I tripping

[dapper crag]

Move: Quick Guard

The user and its party members are protected from attacks with original or altered priority greater than 0 made by other Pokemon, including allies, during this turn. This move modifies the same 1/X chance of being successful used by other protection moves, where X starts at 1 and triples each time this move is successfully used, but does not use the chance to check for failure. X resets to 1 if this move fails, if the user's last move used is not Baneful Bunker, Burning Bulwark, Detect, Endure, King's Shield, Max Guard, Obstruct, Protect, Quick Guard, Silk Trap, Spiky Shield, or Wide Guard, or if it was one of those moves and the user's protection was broken. Fails if the user moves last this turn or if this move is already in effect for the user's side.

Type

Fighting

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

15 (24)

Priority

3

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Snatch

Affected by Snatch.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[nocturne holly]

I have harc

[ember linden]

Oh right

[nocturne holly]

Worth trying tbh

It is double fire tho

[molten oasis]

Oh our fast physical attackers are kinda gone huh

[ember linden]

Tf if your dozo matchup then

[molten oasis]

Cigar paste?

[forest arrow]

Double typing isnt terrible

[nocturne holly]

https://pokepast.es/cfd23ddb5255defc

[forest arrow]

Rain runs two dragons being bax and arch

[molten oasis]

Incin looks better

[forest arrow]

Two water with peli basc

[ember linden]

Oh you have clear smog you’re fine

[molten oasis]

And you have amoonguss so there’s your dozo mu

[forest arrow]

Incin and peli

[ember linden]

All fun and games till tera steel dozo

[molten oasis]

Wait peli so free here

[forest arrow]

That’s what I said

[molten oasis]

Ok but then it gets spored

[nocturne holly]

Yea but harc

[ember linden]

I’m kidding lol

[nocturne holly]

I’m so down for oeli but harc

[forest arrow]

Support Incin with taunt no blitz

[molten oasis]

Replace it with incin

[ember linden]

Rain + Harc have been ran before to success

[molten oasis]

With torn

Not with peli

[forest arrow]

I mean yeah just not ideal because it was torn

[rustic mountain]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2172408864-279zqbql084uyr9p1ymebrpodjfrj8lpw confused from beginning to end of this game lol

[forest arrow]

Manual weather vs ability

[ember linden]

True

[fickle void]

Best ghost type?

[rustic mountain]

idk

[forest arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/flutter-mane-pokemon-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-paradox-misdreavus-gif-199071869302657851

[fickle void]

Tera ghost incin?

[rustic mountain]

prolly ape?

[knotty mirage]

Mimikyu

[nocturne holly]

Harc is so good on this thooooo

[forest arrow]

Yeah prolly ape

[fringe kindle]

Hey Competitive Peoples, could I get some help?

[ember linden]

All fun and games till safety goggles tera steel oblivious dozo in grassy terrain

[forest arrow]

mimikyu tough too tho

[molten oasis]

Lmao

Well then it gets wisped

[fringe kindle]

I'm training up a 31 IV in Speed Beldum, it's Level 10 right now with the 128 EVS in speed I need

[nocturne holly]

All fun and games until csr comes back 😔

[knotty mirage]

You can stall the grassy terrain at least

[ember linden]

Hate

[fringe kindle]

However, all the calcs say it's speed stat should be 17 but mine is 16

[molten oasis]

Literally

[fringe kindle]

What's going on?

[rustic mountain]

oh that reminds me there was a mimikyu team that won i think fuck i forget which regional. had like bax and water tauros and garganacl. wonder if that could still be good

[molten oasis]

Stupid horse

[forest arrow]

That’s not til January enjoy the time while you got it lol

[knotty mirage]

It only last for 5 turn probably 4 or less due to needing switch in dondozo

[molten oasis]

Maybe

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

I wanna believe in water Tauros but I run Prima so I don’t have room gn

[forest arrow]

Dude the Tauros were so good back then

[rustic mountain]

ill have to find that team haha

[forest arrow]

Have they seen any play at all?

[molten oasis]

I have no clue

[rustic mountain]

i think both fire and water are underrated rn

[fringe kindle]

Could someone help me out so I can figure out the problem and start training again?

[nocturne holly]

I don’t think so

[molten oasis]

I think theyre underexplored

[rustic mountain]

yea ive played vs quite a few

[forest arrow]

Might have to find an old team with one of them on it

[rustic mountain]

ppl r def playing them

[ember linden]

I don’t think water tauros will see anything over Gyarados

[molten oasis]

Fighting coverage

Cuz that is heavily lacking rn

[rustic mountain]

water/fighting is good

[forest arrow]

If gambit is meta then mirror herb arc coming back?

[molten oasis]

I think we know why

[nocturne holly]

oh shooooot

I remember that lmaoo

[molten oasis]

Good times

[solid frigate]

1st. why Beldum,Just evolve jt into Metagross
2nd. Did you max out IVs and Make sure its exactly 128 EVs with desire Nature

[rustic mountain]

eh maybe lol

[molten oasis]

I don’t miss mausape tho

[forest arrow]

It was a funny niche play lol

[molten oasis]

Or psyspam

[fringe kindle]

Nature is Adamant, IV is 31 and I killed exactly 28 Magikarp after using 10 Speed Vitaminsm

Also this is in Pokemon Emerald

[ember linden]

Rillaboom

[forest arrow]

Oh wait gambit too

[nocturne holly]

At least it’s easier with incin and rilla
Still hate it tho

[rustic mountain]

theres def stuff thats gna b annoying, u jus gta look at it like a mu check

[forest arrow]

Oh shit

Hang on, slap mirror herb on that doggo lol

[mighty stump]

The Tauroses are good

[ember linden]

Gyarados isn’t weak to Rilla and has intimidate

[ornate elk]

Froslass

[mighty stump]

You cant hit Rilla

[rustic mountain]

preach

[mighty stump]

Lol

[forest arrow]

Hi Papa long time no see

[molten oasis]

Didn’t you deny me saying that day 1 tofu?

Or am I thinking of someone else

[ember linden]

Tera blast flying still exists

[mighty stump]

I didnt deny sayjng the Tauroses?

[solid frigate]

Ok then idk

[molten oasis]

That was someone else then

[knotty mirage]

Mirror herb dragonite with incin sounds fun

[mighty stump]

Blows Tera just to hit Rilla

[rustic mountain]

then u forsake any defensive benefit of tera which is weird for gyra

[ember linden]

I’m sure they’re fine but idt it’ll get more play over Gyara

[molten oasis]

Idt gyara is gonna get a lot of play tbh

[mighty stump]

Reminder Water Tauros won the first Reg A regional

[molten oasis]

Haven’t played yet today but I haven’t seen it

[rustic mountain]

what regional was that i was jus saying that before

[mighty stump]

San Diego

[rustic mountain]

bax/mimikyu/garganacl

water tauros ofc

[rustic mountain]

ty

[gentle crag]

treeco. has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 128: Tauros-Paldea-Blaze

Types

Fighting/Fire

Abilities

Intimidate, Anger Point, Cud Chew (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

75/110/105/30/70/100

Total

490

Base Species

Tauros

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[forest arrow]

One thing I didn’t like back then was garganacl

[dapper crag]

Tauros-Paldea-Blaze's moveset:

Physical Moves

Body Press, Body Slam, Bulldoze, Close Combat, Dig, Double Kick, Double-Edge, Drill Run, Earthquake, Endeavor, Facade, Flame Charge, Flare Blitz, Giga Impact, Headbutt, High Horsepower, Iron Head, Lash Out, Outrage, Raging Bull, Reversal, Rock Slide, Rock Tomb, Smart Strike, Stomping Tantrum, Stone Edge, Tackle, Take Down, Temper Flare, Thief, Thrash, Trailblaze, Wild Charge, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Fire Blast, Fire Spin, Flamethrower, Hyper Beam, Overheat, Tera Blast

Status Moves

Bulk Up, Curse, Endure, Protect, Rain Dance, Rest, Sandstorm, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Tail Whip, Will-O-Wisp, Work Up

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Tauros-Paldea-Blaze.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[forest arrow]

Oh my gawddddd

[mighty stump]

MeLuCa bro

That team report was ahead of its time in insight

[ember linden]

Eh sure fair enough

[molten oasis]

I bet harc will see more play than fire Tauros but who knows

[ember linden]

Is Water Tauros worth into Peli Arch?

[molten oasis]

What if harc comes out as a fraud again lol

[forest arrow]

Fire was cool cause you could run will o wisp to burn stuff while also doing huge damage

[rustic mountain]

https://victoryroadvgc.com/2023-san-diego/
if anyone wants to take a look i think some of these teams are worth taking inspo from

[forest arrow]

Water tauros still good tho too

[rustic mountain]

it was very good. team was also really fun

once it clicked u jus could farm wins

[solid frigate]

that thing can be left behind and never take it

AGAIN

[molten oasis]

Meh

Idt Garg is much of an issue

Play better 👍

[ember linden]

Gothitelle Garg

[molten oasis]

Garg is kinda stall tho, idk

[solid frigate]

its not really that factor of how horrible it is,Its just the stall factor

Heck i seen fhem in Reg G as well-

[molten oasis]

Rilla is a pain in its side tbh

[nocturne holly]

Shit recovery and salt cure spam annoying as hell
Not hard to play around but still

[molten oasis]

And dengo doesn’t help since it can pivot

[forest arrow]

I’m better now so I don’t think it’ll be a problem, I was just still a noob when it seen play

[nocturne holly]

Bro I remember my first ever team it was like Skeledirge and gambit team

those were good days

[ember linden]

I remember that I think

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

Wow I’ve been earning money by doing nothing because my manager needs me to make more bread for no reason

And dishes are awfully slow

Anyway

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/de739926c66447a2 thoughts?

[rustic mountain]

reg g

seems solid tho

[molten oasis]

Eww reg g

Looks fine

[bold geode]

Finally Reg G

[rustic mountain]

shut up

[molten oasis]

Reg g? I only play reg h now

(I need a break from calyrex)

[rustic mountain]

i do need to build out and play zama and miraidon a bit tbh but thats fine

dont wanna play reg h all month

[molten oasis]

I played zacian, I will when reg g rolls back around, so just taking a breather ig

Maybe I’ll be a better builder by then

Then I’ll get my mu for CSR down

[nocturne holly]

LMAO hate that thing

it was only two days ago 😭

[foggy lodge]

How tf a Clefairy killed my Koraidon

20 SpA Clefairy Moonblast vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Koraidon: 148-180 (84 - 102.2%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

[nocturne holly]

Unfortunate 😔

[nocturne holly]

I’ll make a csr team specifically made to counter your team

[ember linden]

I took Porygon2 off for Sylveon(like the fifth time I’ve took away Sylveon and added it), what y’all think the best set is item wise and third slot wise? https://pokepast.es/d87be4e109dc0227

[molten oasis]

Incin+CSR already does it yw

[nocturne holly]

Lol

[craggy dagger]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2172422717

[nocturne holly]

Yawn, cm, quick attack

or sleep talk I’ve seen that a bit

[fickle void]

I cant wait for incineroar to become even more relevant

[chrome knot]

WHAT the hell are you playing

[fickle void]

I love incineroar

Cat on fire

[chrome knot]

its literally not... it needs a purpose to be useful rn

[fickle void]

NUH UH

Cat > everything else

[ember linden]

Yeah I’d go quick attack if someone said Pixie Plate with good reason

Probably could use another offensive threat

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2172422662-yasf4aiga9g4788ox8wilzwoagf6q0zpw?p2 queen of wasting time (I forgot it was psy terrain)

[nocturne holly]

What do you do for speed control on the team

[chrome knot]

literally nothing

play a better pivot game

pray & be lucky

[ember linden]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2172431921-8zrqszxvx3z5z67q4ylc7lg6lnj3mvfpw

[mighty stump]

So based

[chrome knot]

still under the play better bit

[ember linden]

Just said fuck it I’m going specs