#competitive_discussion

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dapper crag
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Palafin's moveset:
Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Aqua Jet, Aqua Tail, Astonish, Body Slam, Bounce, Close Combat, Counter, Dive, Double Hit, Drain Punch, Endeavor, Facade, Fling, Flip Turn, Focus Punch, Giga Impact, Hard Press, Ice Punch, Iron Head, Jet Punch, Liquidation, Outrage, Reversal, Take Down, Throat Chop, Waterfall, Wave Crash, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Aura Sphere, Blizzard, Boomburst, Chilling Water, Disarming Voice, Draining Kiss, Focus Blast, Grass Knot, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Surf, Swift, Tera Blast, Water Gun, Water Pulse, Whirlpool

Status Moves

Agility, Bulk Up, Charm, Encore, Endure, Focus Energy, Haze, Helping Hand, Mist, Protect, Psych Up, Rain Dance, Rest, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Supersonic, Taunt, Tickle

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Palafin.

solid frigate
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Monke moment

foggy lodge
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Damn which good coverage moves does this thing have

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Ice punch?

rustic mountain
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not many really

bold geode
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Your mom

rustic mountain
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i think jet punch wave crash is fine enough

nocturne holly
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Cc also does a chunk

rustic mountain
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idk if u saw just went 14-0 on another acc to get top 30 after adding prim over sylveon. safe to say its been the right call haha

solid frigate
rustic mountain
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cm prim kinda goes hard, throat spray on top for good measure

molten oasis
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Primarina stonks fucking rise dude

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I think Primarina has so much potential

rustic mountain
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i have lefties on kommo otherwise id go that

solid frigate
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ill build one maybe one day

nocturne holly
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do you know what else has a ton of potential

molten oasis
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Fair

molten oasis
nocturne holly
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csr
And they left it out

molten oasis
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(I think bascu may be better then pala)

bold geode
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No

nocturne holly
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I’m not running basc anymore

rustic mountain
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might have to go shiny hunt a marked popplio

nocturne holly
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I’m running dengo

rustic mountain
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only shiny prim i got is pokeball atm and not marked

nocturne holly
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Den(i glaze is work

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dengo glaze is real

rustic mountain
solid frigate
molten oasis
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Yea who knows

rustic mountain
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literally day 1

dense latch
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i tried hunting for grookey and got two bellossom after two sandwiches and no monkey

molten oasis
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Fr

nocturne holly
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Clear amulet stonks are rising so hard

solid frigate
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i actually got a shiny Primarina

Well more like swoop in from my friend’s shiny Hunt

molten oasis
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I got one too

polar nest
nocturne holly
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I got a shiny incin

polar nest
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pransker riolu new tech?

solid frigate
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i stole from my friend when we doing the union circle

He is pissed lol

molten oasis
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Oh p2 gonna be a thing huh

rustic mountain
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almost at 78% gxe RSplat

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highest in the top 20 rn atleast pepogld

dapper crag
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Mienshao's moveset:
Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Assurance, Blaze Kick, Bounce, Brick Break, Brutal Swing, Close Combat, Dig, Double Slap, Double-Edge, Drain Punch, Dual Chop, Facade, Fake Out, Feint, Fling, Focus Punch, Force Palm, Frustration, Fury Swipes, Giga Impact, High Jump Kick, Ice Spinner, Jump Kick, Knock Off, Low Kick, Low Sweep, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Payback, Poison Jab, Pound, Power-Up Punch, Retaliate, Return, Revenge, Reversal, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Tomb, Secret Power, Smelling Salts, Stone Edge, Strength, Take Down, Trailblaze, Triple Axel, U-turn, Upper Hand, Vital Throw

Special Moves

Aura Sphere, Focus Blast, Grass Knot, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Round, Snore, Swift, Tera Blast, Vacuum Wave

Status Moves

Agility, Ally Switch, Attract, Baton Pass, Bulk Up, Calm Mind, Coaching, Confide, Detect, Double Team, Endure, Focus Energy, Helping Hand, Hone Claws, Laser Focus, Me First, Meditate, Protect, Psych Up, Quick Guard, Rain Dance, Reflect, Rest, Role Play, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Swords Dance, Taunt, Toxic, Wide Guard, Work Up

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Mienshao.

nocturne holly
molten oasis
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Ik it’s day 1 but wow

dense latch
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still v impressive

nocturne holly
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I need some speed control

nocturne holly
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My team gets speed creeped by everything

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but I don’t see where I can slot anything on it

rustic mountain
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its a lot nicer to play mons wen the turns are more forgiving

molten oasis
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Honestly with reg g

rustic mountain
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reg g is ight but sometimes its like damn

molten oasis
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I felt like CSR was just, ik I hate on it a lot but I hate the fact that against it 1 wrong turn is ggs

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You have to play perfectly

rustic mountain
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well yea the horses snowball really easily

molten oasis
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Yes

rustic mountain
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if u make a mistake give em a ko u shouldnt, ur prolly done

molten oasis
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Yep

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In this, I can make some mistakes

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Like I can take my foot off the gas a little it’s nice

rustic mountain
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this like even on this run, ive been crit, missed moves and still managed to win games. i feel in reg g it wouldnt be the case for most of those

dense latch
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this might be a skill issue but if I made a bad move and lost my restricted early on the game was fucked

molten oasis
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Skill issue

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But anyway I wanna go to events this format

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This format looks really fun

rustic mountain
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i mean yea it depends ive lost my restricted and still won but it kinda depends on a bunch of other factors like where ur at in the game, what pressure u exert going forward and like if ur even able to manuever it with the pieces u have left

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sometimes u lose it and its kinda jus tough to bounce back depending on how much they have left themselves and what not

rustic mountain
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oh wrong response

molten oasis
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Imma guess the thing above?

rustic mountain
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yea

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irl tours

molten oasis
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Yes for sure

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Gonna try going to locals too

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I got genuinely bored of this format

rustic mountain
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well ur gna have to welcome it back in jan

molten oasis
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That’s 5 months, I’ll take it

rustic mountain
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im guessing reg j will be double restricted for worlds

molten oasis
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I count the month of showdown lol

rustic mountain
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and then like reg k will be ag ig

molten oasis
rustic mountain
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eh i think double is usually better then 1

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1 makes it weird w/ some of the dynamics sure u have 5 other mons but i think 2 balances it out better

molten oasis
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Tofu said this once I think you play a game of roulette with single

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Or it was in terms of my teams

next stump
molten oasis
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I don’t live there lmao

next stump
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oops lol

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someone does

dapper crag
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Hello

molten oasis
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But yea this is a format I like, so far at least

next stump
dapper crag
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im excited for Regulation H

dense latch
dapper crag
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and im thinking of team ideas for it, but i have 0 skill in teambuilding…

dense latch
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there's gonna be a special event later this year where I live which is rly exciting, we never get many big events here

rustic mountain
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also u play any reg h yet or nah?

molten oasis
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Man I’m just realizing there’s so many things that get some time in the sun

rustic mountain
molten oasis
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Well…

rustic mountain
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kyogre to an extent to

molten oasis
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Yk what I played lol

rustic mountain
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yea lol

molten oasis
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It was a roulette for me

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Although it was like, I lost to CSR mostly

rustic mountain
molten oasis
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Just due to it being, stupid

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I’m excited to see what comes up

silver ravine
rustic mountain
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zacian into csr is rough wen every csr has incin and can jus set off 2 barrages while u try and set up

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ofc its not always exactly that but still

rustic mountain
next stump
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usually there’s a discord for your region of the U.S.

rustic mountain
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and u jus find it how? haha

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im guessing some1 in the scene has to invite u

silver ravine
rustic mountain
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nah im mostly kidding

rustic mountain
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team seems solid u have fwg core idk bout hawlucha but i see the synergy ur trying w/ grassy seed and rilla

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id say if anything murkrow and electabuzz feel off for some reason

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maybe not

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try it out

next stump
silver ravine
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I like murkrow for the anti prankster taunt and electabuzz is a decent follow me user. Also can do some damage to palafin.

next stump
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I also haven’t played Reg H yet cause of worlds but I can’t wait for this shit to be over

rustic mountain
rustic mountain
rustic mountain
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like instead of reg g

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think ppl are tired of urshi and shit

next stump
foggy lodge
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I wonder is reg H will have actual tournaments or is it just a filler format

gentle cragBOT
rustic mountain
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think i played enough reg h today RSplat

next stump
molten oasis
foggy lodge
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Ohh good good

molten oasis
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I like shifu but uh, I’m bored of it

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Goes for bolt/zac too

foggy lodge
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I will miss some pokemon

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Bye bye Latios

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Until january 6th

next stump
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Reg H limitless usage stats

solid frigate
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meteoric rise of BM Ursa

foggy lodge
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The BM is like a legendary

solid frigate
foggy lodge
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It has the stats and is also 1 per game

solid frigate
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mhm

foggy lodge
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I was shiny hunting Entei ans then they announce hey its banned

solid frigate
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i really love using Chi Yu as well

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like Just a life saver for me who uses Special attackers

foggy lodge
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Goltres too

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I'll miss it

solid frigate
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some Legendaries are indeed very good

I kinda also Miss Landorus Incarnate

foggy lodge
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Some are cool

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Entei😭

solid frigate
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i miss them besides the Boxart legendary

foggy lodge
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Ogerpon toooo

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It's a cool mon

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Very flexible and i like that

solid frigate
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Ogerpon is very fun to teambuild
Landorus is just so damn dummy good in Damage that saved my games sometimes
Chi yu is beloved due to me being Special attacker
Bolt because it deals with Tornshifu

nocturne holly
solid frigate
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oh yeah i miss i buildinf Iron Boulder as well

molten oasis
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Incin going nowhere what a surprise

solid frigate
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to a suprise of ABSOLUTELY NOBODY

fallen garden
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Incin is only leaving if they ban starter Pokemon for some reason

foggy lodge
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They banned top usage in sw/sh one time

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If that happened again then Inci would be banned

solid frigate
solid frigate
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the banlist in SWSH is just-

foggy lodge
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They banned singles top usage

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why did thay do that

torn parrot
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im so close

mighty stump
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Why is everyones GXEs so low? How many games did that take

rustic mountain
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i think gxes are generally just kinda lower new format

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then theyll hit like 70-80

mighty stump
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Yeah but sub 70 at 1400s+ is pretty surprising

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cuz by the time you’re around 1200s or 1300s you’d hit 70% already

rustic mountain
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i think ppl are adjusting and a lot of players arent playing

mighty stump
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Adjusting to what 😭 it’s just Palance

rustic mountain
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im not 100% tho i think generally jus newer formats start out lower gxe for the most part

rustic mountain
mighty stump
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Sounds about right

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0 fairy pressure

rustic mountain
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palance is not everywhere tho it is common

rustic mountain
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oh and hatterene

mighty stump
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Yeah so 0 fairy pressure

torn parrot
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Easy to abuse early ladder

rustic mountain
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yea

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only day 1 itll balance out

torn parrot
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holy fuck

mighty stump
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Waiting to scout/snipe the 80% GXE players

rustic mountain
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i was surprised i had the highest gxe in top 20

torn parrot
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if i win next

mighty stump
torn parrot
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i pray

rustic mountain
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gl

torn parrot
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thank u

torn parrot
mighty stump
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How many Mental Herb Farigiraf’s are there

rustic mountain
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i havent faced that many so far

mighty stump
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Hm

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This is funny

rustic mountain
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i saw that earlier

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100% tbh

half geode
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yoo i dont follow vgc but is the new regulation p cool?

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whats the overall consensus

mighty stump
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It’s a vacation

torn parrot
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didnt get it 😔 ill keep playing tho

rustic mountain
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eh atleast u got close, u can get there again

little plank
bold geode
bold geode
torn parrot
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😔 i may give up soon for my own mental

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it was cool how close i made it just a shame i didnt follow through

torn parrot
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i think im gonna gip up

round turret
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What regulation are we in and what's restricted rn

torn parrot
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im feelin kinda warn out tbh

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and also sad

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it sucks ):

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im all bummed out cus i got so close

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and then fell off

little plank
cyan smelt
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Oh yeah I'm gonna have to watch out for perish trap now

round turret
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Is there a good replacement for flutter mane this reg?

cyan smelt
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Mismagius poliwhirlkek

next stump
next stump
round turret
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Will Gholdengo run rampant for a bit at all? I'm hoping it doesn't

cyan smelt
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Not with incin running rampant

next stump
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Ghold will be heavy usage yes

round turret
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Forgot incin was a thing

next stump
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every ghold team will have water types or fighting types to deal with it

cyan smelt
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Gholdengo gonna be annoying

round turret
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What can I use on a ursaluna bloodmoon team rn

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I'm thinking dusclops for trick room

cyan smelt
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Farig

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Prio blocking and doesn't need eviolite

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Every incin is running knock off

round turret
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Would cleffable be a good follow me or do I use something like indeedeeF

foggy lodge
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Porygon2 can work i guess is more offensive than Farig

foggy lodge
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If you want TR use Indeedee

cyan smelt
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I want to try to use alolan golem in tr

next stump
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if you go TR against that style of team, you need ways to deal with spore

foggy lodge
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I like tailroom on Ursaluna BM

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Whimsi + Farigiraf

round turret
foggy lodge
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Amoonguss/Palafin/Inci

round turret
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Just use the threats against the threats?

cyan smelt
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Put safety goggles on incin

foggy lodge
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Gyarados is good against that core too

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Taunt/safety goggles for Amoonguss, kills Inci, intimidate for Palafin and walls it

cyan smelt
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Regular ursaluna can't get spored either

foggy lodge
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Also good against Rilla

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I think most of the format will be Inci + Amoonguss/Rilla

round turret
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So, bm ursaluna, incin, palafin, amoongus, farig, Gyarados?

next stump
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if you’re looking at enabling BM with trick room, I think you could look at some of the psyspam style teams

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indeedee/armarouge/BM Ursa/Torkoal/Gallade

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you could also go a softer TR style of team, one that can set it but doesn’t need it. I’d probably use Farig as the setter and use stuff like Baxcalibur or maybe even MausApe to try and have good matchups into the common pokemon

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I haven’t played the format yet myself since I’m still testing for worlds so all of this is just in theory

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but I think BM is best used right now on teams that have tailwind but don’t always need to use it since the format is a lot slower and you don’t need much speed investment to outspeed almost everything

round turret
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What should I use for BM in terms of build and stats

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If I'm not going into a trick room style team with bm

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Is there a pokepaste team for it at all?

next stump
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probably just max HP and max SpA with maybe a little SPE investment depending on what you want to outspeed under tailwind

round turret
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What mint should I use for bm

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If I'm putting him in a tailwind team

nocturne holly
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depend son what you wanna creep in tw

cyan smelt
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I need to replace kleavor on my team but idk what to replace it with

round turret
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If stuff like amoongus is gonna be a major threat to my team, I need to outspeed that to remove the threat on it

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But if I were to go into a tr it wouldn't hurt to be a tiny bit slower

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If that makes any sense

little plank
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I'm seeing a ton of Tauros

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Mo4e of them then I am seeing incin

cyan smelt
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Water tauros?

little plank
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Yeah

cyan smelt
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Weird

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What moves

molten oasis
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the shifu cope is real

little plank
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That last one I just played had chilling water and wave crash lol

cyan smelt
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I should replace kleavor with kingambit

little plank
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So I am 1000% certain my team is walled by Mausape

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Which isn't good

cyan smelt
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Have you tried adding an ursa bm

little plank
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I can't perish trap and my only offensive pressure to take it down is gengar which is walled by the mouse lol

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Thinking about trying a mausape with a M indeedee sneasler mode with imprison lol

cyan smelt
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Sneasler?

little plank
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Yup lol

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Unburden

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Tera flying acrobatics

cyan smelt
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How does that help against mausape and wouldn't follow me be better to redirect beat up

little plank
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Oh I'm saying changing my team to a mausape team lol

cyan smelt
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Oh

little plank
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But yeah def need to go back to the drawing board for the perish trap team

round turret
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What do we think of
Murkrow (Evolite)
Protect / Tailwind / Haze / Taunt
Bm Ursaluna (Life Orb)
Earth Power / Blood Moon / Hyper Voice / Protect
Incin (Safety Goggles)
Fake Out / Parting / Flare Blitz / Knock Off
Rillaboom (AV)
Wood Hammer / Grassy Glide / U-Turn / Fake Out
Farig (Throat Spray)
Hyper Voice / Psychic/ TR / Protect
Amoongus (Sitrus)
Spore / Rage Powder / Pollen Puff / Protect

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Does this work as a solid team?

little plank
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Looks like the basic Mets team being played

torn parrot
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this gonna make me cry istg

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1499 😭 why

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so close

molten oasis
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jeez im in 1200's strugglin and everyone else is in 1400's

torn parrot
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GAHHHH i was one off and lost agaiannn

torn parrot
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didnt make a new one yet

molten oasis
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ah

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im not using an old team lol

torn parrot
molten oasis
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Ic

torn parrot
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FFFFFUUUUUUUUCK YESSS

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I SCREAMED

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HYAAAHAHHHHAA

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IM FEELING SUCH A GOD DAMN HIGH RIGHT NOW

nocturne holly
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Congrats

balmy glen
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nice

torn parrot
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thank you ((:

nocturne holly
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Banded harc does so much damage holy shit

mighty stump
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ItsJustKen with that impressive 55% GXE omg

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What tat you have you mentioned

torn parrot
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XD yeah its wild

cyan smelt
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I'm not gonna use my reg a team because it was not good and autolost to mausape

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Wonder if rampardos would work in tr

cyan smelt
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Actually I wonder if cinderace is gonna be good seeing as it's faster than most of the format

cyan smelt
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Wait does ribombee's ability mean it can't be faked out

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Neat it can't

torn parrot
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that's why i love it

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actually that's 5% of why i love it

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90% of why i love it is because its ribombee

cyan smelt
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And it makes sticky web viable

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Empoleon might see some use now because of competitive

round turret
strange fjord
cyan smelt
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I must be the only person using skeledirge

strange fjord
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Skeledirge at 1.7~%

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estimated of course

round turret
cyan smelt
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Meh idc because it helped me beat moody muk team and dozo

round turret
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Real

torn parrot
strange fjord
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Currently available replays from bo1 ladder on showdown

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ranked, no friendlies or anything

torn parrot
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ohhhhh

atomic portal
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whats ribombee at @strange fjord

strange fjord
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1.12% ish

atomic portal
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thats all u mf @torn parrot

torn parrot
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they dont know her true power

strange fjord
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ill update munchteams rn and see what ribombee replays i can find lol

cyan smelt
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Maya is a trailblazer fr

molten oasis
mighty stump
cyan smelt
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How come indeedee is higher than armarouge? Aren't they a pair or do people run indeedee without it

mighty stump
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Also the idea of alternative Psyspam users

cyan smelt
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Makes sense

mighty stump
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Also 248 is wasting 4 EVs

round turret
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What can I do to balance the team

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I want it to be a good team

mighty stump
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Pick a direction. Either have a 4-2 where Farig/Luna is their own pair and have a complete Balance mode or run Tailwind HO with the Farig/Luna mode

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Don’t just have mons cause they’re standard and good, they should be there for a reason

round turret
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I wanted a mix of if I needed to use tailwind I could, but if I didn't need it it would be fine with tr

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But idk how to make a good team rn

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I haven't played in a good few months

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Do you have any recommendations for the team in terms of Pokemon?

mighty stump
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Think about the purpose of Tailwind and what you’re trying to enable rather than wanting TW for the sake of having it

round turret
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I see, thank you

mighty stump
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Leaning into the TR mode you’d probably end up having more like Torkoal/Hariyama/One of Rillaboom or Incineroar as FO options. You can also use Annihilape as a Final Gambit option to get immediate pivots into your TR mode

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Then for a Tailwind HO Mode just pick easiest pair is just Murkrow + Gholdengo

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But those are more specific in terms of the team’s flow

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and would define the gameplan more accurately

round turret
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So murk and Gholdengo would be fine on its own without hard help from the rest of the team?

molten oasis
mighty stump
round turret
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Tysm

cyan smelt
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4 steel teras?

molten oasis
mighty stump
molten oasis
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...lovely

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what do i do about that

mighty stump
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Focus Energy Hydreigon time

molten oasis
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ah

cyan smelt
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You might also struggle with mausape

mighty stump
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Less concerned about that cause of Scarf Gholdengo + Hydreigon/Grimm

molten oasis
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i have lines for mausape i'll be fine

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in that regard

cyan smelt
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Bm ursa?

molten oasis
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prima

mighty stump
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CM Prim + Screens is enough

cyan smelt
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What do you do about hard tr

mighty stump
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You don’t like the rest of the Farigiraf friends

molten oasis
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play through it

mighty stump
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Also P2 + Regular Ursaluna can look like hell

molten oasis
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shit that is a thing that can show up

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gambit ursa also almost cooked me today as well

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uhhhmm, do i need member changes for that then?

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im fine with whatever, i like prima the way it is and i've liked hydrei, but idm what changes

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didn't think about normal ursa at all

cyan smelt
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I should ladder more and see how I go with gambit instead of kleavor

molten oasis
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Yk what tr mu looks a lot worse now

cyan smelt
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Torkoal?

molten oasis
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Physical attackers

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Ursa and gambit

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Uh, maybe I rework the team ig idk

balmy glen
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man

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i really dont want to go to worlds lol

molten oasis
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why?

balmy glen
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no clue on what to use

molten oasis
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ah

cyan smelt
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You'll smash it, I believe in you

balmy glen
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I dont even have 1 mon i want to use

mighty stump
balmy glen
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nah

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ill let michael figure it out ig

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only thing that sucks is

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zama is such a nice caly ice wall lol

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but so bad into csr

mighty stump
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Lol

ember linden
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Also Hi everyone I haven’t been active here in a minute

molten oasis
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looks ok

cyan smelt
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Looks like standard balance

mighty stump
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Raichu looks kinda pointless ngl

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Also if you’re gonna Tera Fire Sylveon since the only relevant Poison type is Amoonguss might as well go Tera Blast

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Also high potential to lose to MausApe

round turret
#

Is this better tofu

cyan smelt
molten oasis
cyan smelt
#

i'm losing on ladder a lot and it sucks

knotty mirage
#

Can sneasler be usable on reg H with unburden

molten oasis
#

wow i do not miss the psyspam guessing games

ember linden
#

I could swap out Bax for a scarf chomp that would help me into fire/steel tera Ape + scarf ape

pure cloak
#

what is the best nature for virizion?

molten oasis
#

god i did not miss mausape or psyspam

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really didnt miss psyspam cheese

ember linden
#

I can’t think of anything to help me with mausape besides MAYBE H-Zoro

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Even then the mon is mid

ember linden
molten oasis
#

it has not

ember linden
#

Lol

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No if you’re talking the old psyspam

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Tr psyspam + CSR Psyspam still exists

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Definitely not as big tho

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But agreed I don’t miss either

cyan smelt
#

my team ain't working

ember linden
#

What’re you running?

cyan smelt
#

farig, rilla, skeledirge, ursa, kingambit and palafin'

ember linden
#

Are you using standard Palafin?

cyan smelt
#

hero palafin

ember linden
#

Ik, I’m talking sets

cyan smelt
#

idk

ember linden
#

Like Wavecrash Jetpunch Flipturn protect water tera

cyan smelt
#

wave crash, jet punch, haze

ember linden
#

Oh ok

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I don’t think Palafin is going to be so easily slapped on anymore just bc of Rilla’s existence

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Even with Fari

cyan smelt
#

i'm getting my ass beat by everyone

ember linden
#

What’s been happening?

cyan smelt
#

usual annoying incin things

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all sorts of random shit

molten oasis
#

well i can safely say my team is dogshit

#

time to rework when i feel like it

#

forgot how much i hate psyspam

ember linden
#

What were mon/core were you trying to build around?

cyan smelt
#

idk maybe hard tr isn't the way to go

ember linden
#

That comp isn’t as hard of tr ngl

cyan smelt
#

kingambit has been performing well

ember linden
#

I prefer gambit on balance

#

He’s fs back

pure cloak
#

what is the best nature for virizion?

ember linden
#

Either adamant or jolly

cyan smelt
#

how did an amoonguss outspeed me

mighty stump
mighty stump
molten oasis
#

Team feels very clunky

#

I feel like along with this I’m playing poorly

#

Idk man I gotta take a break and reset

mighty stump
#

I solved Reg H

molten oasis
#

Ofc you did

#

sorry

mighty stump
#

Lol nw

#

But you had two dark types

#

What was the problem with Psyspam?

molten oasis
#

It’s the guessing game of armarouge being weakness policy or normal that’s annoying

mighty stump
#

lolwut

molten oasis
#

Hydreigon has been fine

mighty stump
#

Wat WP Arma

molten oasis
mighty stump
#

Flip Turn stuff?

molten oasis
#

Aqua jet Prima was one

mighty stump
#

Oh lol

#

Having redirection imo is always good if you don’t have immediate firepower to open with

molten oasis
#

And I’m worried about Archa due to Prima not being good into that

#

I could see amoonguss working I suppose

mighty stump
#

If its Aqua Jet its probably AV

molten oasis
#

It was, im just annoyed about it ik i can beat it

#

Team still felt very clunky

mighty stump
#

Like I told Emma

#

Reg H is just knowledge checks

molten oasis
#

Feels like it’s going for 2 modes

mighty stump
#

So just have good memory

molten oasis
#

Guess I don’t know the knowledge man

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That and I was kinda terrible at reg a

mighty stump
#

Every loss now is one less in the future

molten oasis
#

I remember what was there not necessarily how to beat it

#

Well, fair enough, I can play better although idk what I’m doing in the builder

#

Maybe I should be thinking harder about what I’m adding

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And what it does

mighty stump
#

Give yourself the options, you can figure out the use of it later

molten oasis
#

Instead of “this is cool”

mighty stump
#

Remember each choice is intentional and influences your dynamic

molten oasis
#

I will remember that I suppose

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I’ll see how testing goes tomorrow, I’ll figure it out I always have

#

Be it moving to a different focus or finding the sauce

cyan smelt
#

close combat incin wtf

chrome knot
pure cloak
mighty stump
mighty stump
#

I just finished work

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Im being adventurous with my dinner

languid yew
#

Hey, I've thought about making a team from Initiative Pokémons for PvP what would look like & I would be interested to know how you see it: Meowscarada, Roaring Moon, Iron Valiant, Iron Bundle, Flutter Mane and kilowattrel.

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(sry, my english is Not very good)

solid frigate
languid yew
#

Which of these are banned?

mighty stump
#

Paradox Mons and Legends

languid yew
#

ouh, okay

mighty stump
#

That’s not for another month. Current format is Legends + Paradox

languid yew
#

Thanks for the information

mighty stump
#

So you kinda need a Restricted mon for now

cyan smelt
#

Yeah my team is ass so back to the drawing board

#

I think I need palafin/rilla and gambit but not sure on the other 3

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Skele is just knock off bait for incin

#

Might try water tauros or Gyarados instead of palafin

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I don't have intim on my team which is probably a problem

next stump
#

any reason you’re not using incin yourself with palafin and rilla?

timber falcon
#

also if youre thinking of replacing palafin, what are you building around???

cyan smelt
#

I have no idea

timber falcon
#

then i think its best you first find what kinda team youre trying ot build

cyan smelt
#

I guess I stubbornly thought I could make skele work

timber falcon
#

skele doesnt look great rn. considering the amount of rain teams im seeing and the ursaluna tr teams

#

but it can work

cyan smelt
#

It's just incin bait at this point

timber falcon
#

true, im not seeing it have much of an impact on the field

cyan smelt
#

I'm not seeing much dozo and mausape

timber falcon
#

ive seen both of them at least once

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but ive only gone up to the 1200s

cyan smelt
#

I guess I don't need skele because I have haze on palafin

timber falcon
#

whats the palafin set?

cyan smelt
#

I borrowed dollarmonke's one, haze, jet punch, wave crash, protect

timber falcon
#

hm so only water moves

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ii guess that works on palance

cyan smelt
#

Idk if I should forget about using farig too because it's incin bait as well

next stump
#

palafin balance doesn’t really need farig

bold geode
#

You are still doing fat chunks with Wave Crash

cyan smelt
#

I'm not saying palafin is, I'm saying farig and skele are

next stump
#

252 Atk Tsareena Power Whip vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Palafin-Hero: 200-236 (96.6 - 114%) -- 75% chance to OHKO

could be an interesting soft answer to palafin

#

block jet punch, can outspeed a decent amount of palafin, immune to rage powder, and you can OHKO it

cyan smelt
#

Decent into rilla too

nocturne holly
next stump
#

Dozo matchup looks tough but other than that the team seems solid

#

oh I didn’t see the clear smog on amoonguss

#

that will help a lot

#

still not great ways to hit Dondozo but that’s not always 100% needed if you clear its boosts

timber falcon
#

Sylveon @ Throat Spray
Ability: Pixilate
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 60 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 188 Spe
Modest Nature

  • Hyper Voice
  • Quick Attack
  • Tera Blast
  • Protect
#

i found this set on munchstats, any clue on why its running tera blast?

next stump
#

are you sure the tera was fairy?

timber falcon
#

yes i copy pasted it

#

nvm i get it

#

its for wide guard probably, since the set is reg G

next stump
#

tera blast is normally run on Sylveon because its ability turns normal moves into fairy moves, so if you run tera blast it doubles as a fairy move AND a coverage move when you tera

#

I saw it a lot back in the day with water or fire tera

timber falcon
#

i like the idea of fire

#

ill probs change it to that, thanks for the idea

nocturne holly
nocturne holly
next stump
#

I cant really say because I haven

#

oops

#

haven't tested it, but I can't see it being that bad

nocturne holly
#

I need some speed control

#

I would say hydreigon but double dragon doesn’t sound good

#

Fairy and ice aren’t bad for me though so ig maybe?

#

I’m also pretty weak into ground

timber falcon
#

i dont plan on taking this reg too seriously, just looking for some fun. Hence the team

cyan smelt
#

of course the ursa bm lived on 1 hp

#

wtf just ran into a gholdengo with focus blast and a tera water one

timber falcon
#

tera water seems reasonable

nocturne holly
#

What speed controllers are there rn

#

I desperately need speed control

#

Honestly murkrow doesn’t seem bad

#

Or encore whims

#

But I have amoonguss and that’s double grass

#

Murkrow also gets taunt

timber falcon
#

then go for murkrow

mighty stump
#

Whimsicott, Murkrow, Salamence, Pelipper are all viable TW users lol

timber falcon
#

any ideas for a last 2 mons here

cyan smelt
#

tera dragon gholdengo wut

timber falcon
#

the gameplan (main one) is flip turn into armourouge and activate weakness policy, activating hero palafin anf enablimg be to maybe swamp something like indee on the field

#

but after that im at a loss

mighty stump
#

Why the fuck are you light mode

nocturne holly
#

real

timber falcon
#

dark mode is for edgy teens like you lot

mighty stump
#

That just makes me not want to help you

nocturne holly
#

isn’t paste dark mode by default 😭

mighty stump
#

I'm literally an adult with a job I value my eyesight

#

You had to make the active decision to want to blind out your retinas

timber falcon
#

dark mode just looks sadder though

mighty stump
#

Teenagers, so emotional about everything

nocturne holly
#

this is not better

mighty stump
#

Smh

timber falcon
mighty stump
#

Bro said not seeing is less sad than being able to see

nocturne holly
mighty stump
#

CA/Mystic Water/Goggles

#

Choice Band if you're desperate

nocturne holly
#

wbt scarf or band?

timber falcon
#

better?

mighty stump
#

Scarf is bad on Palafin

nocturne holly
#

why

mighty stump
#

Just is. It doesn't give any significant value to Palafin that it cannot naturally just have. Plus you already have Prio Jet Punch

#

You're also base 100 Spe, why do you need Scarf in Reg H

timber falcon
#

which mons work well with a gimmicky armourouge?

mighty stump
#

Aqua Jet Primarina is usually the choice.

nocturne holly
timber falcon
mighty stump
#

That's up to you to decide lol. Depends on what MUs you're gonna be depending on Spe

mighty stump
wary trench
#

Which team metas do you guys think will be better in reg H? Kinda hoping trick room picks up

mighty stump
#

Also just open to being cleared by FO in this scenario

mighty stump
timber falcon
#

great, tera dark porygon to stop my psyspam.

#

who tf runs tera dark porygon mochige

mighty stump
#

It'd be foolish to think people won't run counters to Psyspam lol

timber falcon
#

but why porygon

#

psychic tera wouldve made more sense for the extra fighting weakness no?

mighty stump
#

Barely any relevant Fighting types that can even OHKO. Plus it's early format, random shit.

timber falcon
#

ima swap to primarina

mighty stump
#

Reg H is just pure knowledge checks and being able to fish out information on CTS

timber falcon
#

yeah ive underestimated the amount of people that expect armourouge

#

maybe i should try find a strat thats not as easy to account for

mighty stump
#

Maybe you should try to find a team that's just solid and doesn't depend on make-or-break gimmicks

timber falcon
#

tru

solid frigate
chrome knot
#

@mighty stump how do i select indeedee female on my worlds fantasy

mighty stump
#

Uhm

#

No clue

chrome knot
#

it only shows indeedee boy

mighty stump
#

Indeedee-F...?

chrome knot
#

but it might be generalizing them under species clause

mighty stump
#

Maybe

chrome knot
#

im not sure if i wanna take farig or indeedee

mighty stump
#

Farig

chrome knot
#

for paldea dex slot its a gamble

#

can i pm u my draft

mighty stump
#

Yea

solid frigate
#

should i go for TR Calm Mind Sweeper Primarina

#

like Tailroom Primarina

dull ibex
#

showdown stream anyone?

mighty stump
dull ibex
#

stream is up

mighty stump
#

If Tauros can OHKO Eviolite P2, i'd be very surprised

solid frigate
zinc totem
#

some reg H team theorycrafting. Ngl beatup justified lucario is pretty fun and does well (in sd atleast)

mighty stump
#

L

zinc totem
#

ofcourse annihilape centric team would be much more better and stronger probably and it would do same thanks to rage fist boost from maushold

solid frigate
#

just do the rentals after the Regulation H is started

zinc totem
balmy glen
#

ive never not wanted to play mons more than having to play reg g

zinc totem
#

and if people has opinion if beatup lucario would be semi-strong for H

solid frigate
#

Annihilape over Lucario kek

zinc totem
solid frigate
#

also might as well try Primarina Tailroom

torn parrot
#

i want a fuckin pizza that's what i want

zinc totem
#

i want a woman who appereciates us pokemon players

chrome knot
#

huh

mighty stump
#

I mentioned competitive pokemon on my dating app and it worked like 80% of the time

chrome knot
#

no i hate all of you axtually

mighty stump
#

The biggest secret is it's not the nerdy hobby, it's being socially weird that puts people off!

solid frigate
#

like Play Pokemon Comp is nerdy but it benefits you in some way

nocturne holly
balmy glen
#

They asked me why I’m wasting my time lmao

#

Indirectly tho

#

(They asked my gf that)

solid frigate
balmy glen
#

Tbh

#

I get what they are saying tho top 8 isn’t really much and they come from a rich family 😭

zinc totem
#

i wonder if dragapult gonna become one of stronger choises too for reg H

mighty stump
#

Pult sucks without Pao

solid frigate
mighty stump
#

Oh right

#

I forgor

#

Asian family

solid frigate
zinc totem
#

they know how to deal EMOTIONAL DAMAGE

#

that is super effective

#

(yes im bored beacuse i am trying get annihilape outbreak)

solid frigate
#

Its not about Emotional Damage

zinc totem
solid frigate
#

its more like the Pressure on their Goals

#

I’m Asian as well

#

Chinese to be exact

zinc totem
#

but yes. Asians have it probably most rough beacuse Asian parents tend to push their children into harder pressure due all education and such

#

thats how i understood it, and they tend not approve anything else but goals they've set

mighty stump
#

That's the basic form of the stereotype

solid frigate
#

Its more deeper than you know

zinc totem
#

yeah definetly. Im not asian myself so i can never see deeper into it as outsider unless i marry into Asian family but even then i prob see only small things so i know only things i've been told by asians and what little research i've managed done

balmy glen
solid frigate
chrome knot
#

keanu

timber falcon
#

do you guys think sneasler rilla could work?

zinc totem
#

tho you probably want shadow claw for sneasler as coverage

solid frigate
timber falcon
#

ill try it out

timber falcon
solid frigate
torn parrot
#

kind of annoying

timber falcon
#

which mons make a good duo

#

im thinking sneasler and rilla then maybe tatsudozo

#

a 2-2-2 strat

#

or maybe balance is better

zinc totem
solid frigate
timber falcon
zinc totem
timber falcon
#

maybe ill go balance on the first 4, then tatsudozo

solid frigate
zinc totem
#

so it really depends what team you go for what move set you give for sneasler

balmy glen
mighty stump
zinc totem
timber falcon
#

is dnite worth using this reg?

#

theres no pao

next stump
#

AV dnite was good in reg A and B

#

it's probably still good, maybe even better without flutter

zinc totem
timber falcon
#

i would do av dnite, however i want rilla on the team, maybe i swap items?

#

then again im not even sure what dnite brings to the team

balmy glen
mighty stump
solid frigate
balmy glen
#

@mighty stump did u see this PolarBear team

mighty stump
#

I considered BDrum Recycle but didn't really like the idea of it

timber falcon
#

this is the six ive almost settled with

mighty stump
#

This is the what

timber falcon
#

will archaludon be a problem here?

#

im a tad worried in that department

mighty stump
#

Why,

#

Dondozo is right there

#

Lol

timber falcon
#

doesnt elctro thingy run through dozo

mighty stump
#

What does Tera do

solid frigate
#

Electro Shot?

timber falcon
#

ig unaware helps, but then im affected by intimidate

mighty stump
#

What does clear amulet do

timber falcon
#

clam dozo?

#

anyone know how to ev dozo and rilla

cyan smelt
#

god gholdengo is so strong

mighty stump
#

Gholdengod

solid frigate
cyan smelt
#

i'm gonna need to put av on gambit i think

solid frigate
#

AV SD Gambit?

cyan smelt
#

no just 4 move gambit

solid frigate
#

ah ok

cyan smelt
#

have you seen moodymukvgc on the showdown rooms lmao, he made another moody muk team

cyan smelt
#

substitute and low kick flamigo to deal with ursa bm

timber falcon
#

anyone have AV rilla set?

solid frigate
#

I’m gonna die

chrome knot
#

@woodtofu let me innnnn

#

@mighty stump

mighty stump
timber falcon
#

so many tera steel dengos damn

mighty stump
#

It's just specs Dengo

timber falcon
#

i hate specs dengo

chrome knot
#

walkin to get food and its starting to storm

#

thoughts

tranquil kraken
#

switch in rayquaza

#

ez

timber falcon
#

i just got 4-0d by annihilape whimsicott

#

what just happen

next stump
#

with dozo on your team?

timber falcon
#

was embarrasing

#

beat up and one bulk up was all it took for dozo to be gone in 2 hits

#

tera dragon stopped me from using stab wave crash

mighty stump
#

Kekw

shadow wind
#

Tera dragon? Do you not have order up?

torn parrot
#

i think excadrill is pretty good

mighty stump
#

Probably was the moment of Tera, not post-Tera

timber falcon
torn parrot
#

maybe unaware is the play

#

for the bulk up

timber falcon
#

i was using unaware....

mighty stump
#

Rage Fist BP boosts are no joke

#

Wahaha

timber falcon
#

mhm

mighty stump
#

Ape is so funny

timber falcon
#

no.2 on my opp list now

mighty stump
#

Who's number 1

torn parrot
timber falcon
#

tera steel dengo

torn parrot
#

iu guess crash might not kill

timber falcon
torn parrot
#

ye i know

#

your not using wave crash?

timber falcon
#

i am

#

wouldnt have killed anyway, all they needed was 2 hits

torn parrot
#

yeah true

timber falcon
#

frick

torn parrot
#

any missing gen 5 art for the new pokemon?

timber falcon
#

i messed the battle up s bad already lmao

#

whats a common tera for hydreigon?#

torn parrot
#

Fire or steel is what I saw

timber falcon
#

yeah i lost to firw

knotty mirage
#

Huh primarina starting to get used i might want build her later

solid frigate
timber falcon
#

how do people actually deal with anihilape

#

im consistently losing to it

knotty mirage
#

Prolly another annihilape

#

As far i can tell the biggest check for annihilape is flutter who well not available on the reg

timber falcon
#

dgleam

#

it doesnt like dgleam

#

ima replace salamnce with smth that would be more of a help

torn parrot
mighty stump
#

There is one very good wall to Annihilape

torn parrot
#

And ignore ape till I can one shot

mighty stump
#

Also mainly kill the beat-up user, like Maya said

timber falcon
mighty stump
#

Break the BU system and Annihilape is kinda useless

mighty stump
timber falcon
#

omg

#

i never actually did that

#

in fact, i kept it alive

torn parrot
#

Till I’m able to deal with it

mighty stump
#

Annihilape can end up suffering from "All my friends are dead" syndrome

torn parrot
#

Lmao yeah

timber falcon
#

i killed the maushold

#

omg it actually works

#

its just sitting there helplessly

mighty stump
#

Lol

torn parrot
#

😭👍 wooooo!!!

timber falcon
#

4-0 yippee

#

salamance but it so much work

next stump
#

maybe has been shared already but cool to see what’s winning early

timber falcon
#

hisuian zoroak :0

mighty stump
#

It walls Ape

timber falcon
#

omg wait

#

youre onto something

charred saddle
#

wall yo mom

mighty stump
#

POV: You’re a HO Pokemon watching a slower Pokemon move first to delete you and your team

karmic temple
#

LMFAO

timber falcon
#

HO teams when you pop moongus in tr

#

say i was confused in pokemon, does my defence boost help?

#

against the damage

foggy lodge
#

Wide guard blocks dragon darts?

mighty stump
dapper crag
#
Ability: Neutralizing Gas

While this Pokemon is active, Abilities have no effect. This Ability activates before hazards and other Abilities take effect. Does not affect the As One, Battle Bond, Comatose, Disguise, Gulp Missile, Ice Face, Multitype, Neutralizing Gas, Power Construct, RKS System, Schooling, Shields Down, Stance Change, Tera Shift, Zen Mode, or Zero to Hero Abilities.

timber falcon
#

tbh dozogiri isnt working for me

solid frigate
timber falcon
#

i think i gotta restart at sneasler rilla, cause that duo is whats satying consistent

chrome knot
nocturne holly
polar canyon
#

I kinda wanna try meowscarada again

polar canyon
#

135 speed tier is gone

foggy lodge
#

Dragon/fairy/steel core

polar canyon
#

If you wanna really go back to pre legends and paradoxes meta use murkrow

#

You also get the classic murk ghold combo

graceful flare
#

Reg h is here

#

Is it true no double restricted

#

I finally want to play vgc again

nocturne holly
#

Giving me more fire weaknesses

balmy glen
#

Come back in 2 years for next gen

cyan smelt
#

getting sick of all the bs in this reg already

mighty stump
#

It’s been like

#

2 days

timber falcon
#

sure theres stuff like mausape

#

but then the 4 other mons are completely random

solid frigate
graceful flare
#

But I seen scraw vgc talk about it

knotty mirage
#

It just prediction i think

balmy glen
polar canyon
craggy dagger
#

meow-?

cyan smelt
#

it's all just psyspam

timber falcon
chrome knot
graceful flare
balmy glen
graceful flare
#

It's scraw vgc

#

He wouldn't lie

craggy dagger
balmy glen
#

I faced him at NAIC Ik he would lie

graceful flare
balmy glen
#

Talon lies too

chrome knot
#

this is like C tier gaslighting

balmy glen
#

ty

chrome knot
graceful flare
balmy glen
chrome knot
graceful flare
#

I dont

chrome knot
#

except you do :/

graceful flare
#

I think I do

#

Is it like forcing someone to belive u or sum similar

balmy glen
#

Emma what restricted should I play

graceful flare
graceful flare
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Moment

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i picked up zam recently its funny af

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or cir bc thats on my fantasy draft

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Zam beats CIR most of the time

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yes

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So I gotta destroy your fantasy draft gg

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cirs one net negative mu lmfao

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you alone wont but yeah

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Nah I will

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my draft is S tier going into worlds

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tcg is also pretty peak

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Me when I just use my indie team

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then u roll 3 japanese players in s row

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I mean doesn’t really matter

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In terms of skill

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they got the freak teams

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Just their team lul

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