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#competitive_discussion
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
solid frigate
Monke moment
rustic mountain
not many really
bold geode
Your mom
rustic mountain
i think jet punch wave crash is fine enough
nocturne holly
Cc also does a chunk
rustic mountain
idk if u saw just went 14-0 on another acc to get top 30 after adding prim over sylveon. safe to say its been the right call haha
solid frigate
Cc also does a chunk
or just pair Palafin with Incineroar for damage control
molten oasis
idk if u saw just went 14-0 on another acc to get top 30 after adding prim over ...
lmao
rustic mountain
cm prim kinda goes hard, throat spray on top for good measure
rustic mountain
i have lefties on kommo otherwise id go that
solid frigate
ill build one maybe one day
nocturne holly
do you know what else has a ton of potential
molten oasis
Fair
molten oasis
do you know what else has a ton of potential
Ik I glaze Prima stop glazing bascu
nocturne holly
csr
And they left it out
molten oasis
(I think bascu may be better then pala)
bold geode
No
nocturne holly
I’m not running basc anymore
rustic mountain
might have to go shiny hunt a marked popplio
nocturne holly
I’m running dengo
rustic mountain
only shiny prim i got is pokeball atm and not marked
molten oasis
might have to go shiny hunt a marked popplio
rustic mountain
https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-yes-nod-agree-gif-11928667053720670991
haha well see if this team is still good in a month
solid frigate
(I think bascu may be better then pala)
ayo the sauce is real?
molten oasis
Yea who knows
rustic mountain
literally day 1
dense latch
i tried hunting for grookey and got two bellossom after two sandwiches and no monkey
molten oasis
Fr
nocturne holly
Clear amulet stonks are rising so hard
solid frigate
i actually got a shiny Primarina
Well more like swoop in from my friend’s shiny Hunt
molten oasis
I got one too
polar nest
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2171674682 my first match of reg h
nocturne holly
I got a shiny incin
polar nest
pransker riolu new tech?
polar nest
i actually got a shiny Primarina
Well more like swoop in from my friend’s shiny...
i also have one
solid frigate
i stole from my friend when we doing the union circle
He is pissed lol
molten oasis
Oh p2 gonna be a thing huh
polar nest
i stole from my friend when we doing the union circle
He is pissed lol
i did not but lol
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
dense latch
i stole from my friend when we doing the union circle
He is pissed lol
lmao
nocturne holly
highest in the top 20 rn atleast <:pepogld:816502039483121694>
calm down bro it’s just the first day 😭
dense latch
still v impressive
nocturne holly
I need some speed control
rustic mountain
calm down bro it’s just the first day 😭
nocturne holly
My team gets speed creeped by everything
but I don’t see where I can slot anything on it
rustic mountain
Ik it’s day 1 but wow
what can i say, i like reg h haha
its a lot nicer to play mons wen the turns are more forgiving
molten oasis
Honestly with reg g
rustic mountain
reg g is ight but sometimes its like damn
molten oasis
I felt like CSR was just, ik I hate on it a lot but I hate the fact that against it 1 wrong turn is ggs
You have to play perfectly
rustic mountain
well yea the horses snowball really easily
molten oasis
Yes
rustic mountain
if u make a mistake give em a ko u shouldnt, ur prolly done
molten oasis
Yep
In this, I can make some mistakes
Like I can take my foot off the gas a little it’s nice
rustic mountain
this like even on this run, ive been crit, missed moves and still managed to win games. i feel in reg g it wouldnt be the case for most of those
dense latch
this might be a skill issue but if I made a bad move and lost my restricted early on the game was fucked
molten oasis
Skill issue
But anyway I wanna go to events this format
This format looks really fun
rustic mountain
i mean yea it depends ive lost my restricted and still won but it kinda depends on a bunch of other factors like where ur at in the game, what pressure u exert going forward and like if ur even able to manuever it with the pieces u have left
sometimes u lose it and its kinda jus tough to bounce back depending on how much they have left themselves and what not
molten oasis
Imma guess the thing above?
molten oasis
I count the month of showdown lol
rustic mountain
and then like reg k will be ag ig
molten oasis
im guessing reg j will be double restricted for worlds
Most likely yea, I’m hoping that will be better
rustic mountain
eh i think double is usually better then 1
1 makes it weird w/ some of the dynamics sure u have 5 other mons but i think 2 balances it out better
molten oasis
Tofu said this once I think you play a game of roulette with single
Or it was in terms of my teams
next stump
Gonna try going to locals too
hell yeah, I saw some Carolina locals have already happened (I can’t remember if it was you or someone else from that area)
molten oasis
I don’t live there lmao
dapper crag
Hello
molten oasis
But yea this is a format I like, so far at least
dapper crag
im excited for Regulation H
dense latch
Or it was in terms of my teams
nah it def felt like that with almost any team tbh
dapper crag
and im thinking of team ideas for it, but i have 0 skill in teambuilding…
dense latch
there's gonna be a special event later this year where I live which is rly exciting, we never get many big events here
rustic mountain
hell yeah, I saw some Carolina locals have already happened (I can’t remember if...
is there a good spot to check for locals? i feel like i never know they are happening until they are
also u play any reg h yet or nah?
molten oasis
Man I’m just realizing there’s so many things that get some time in the sun
rustic mountain
Tofu said this once I think you play a game of roulette with single
its a bit mu roulettey but i think if u opt for the horses or miraidon ur pretty set
molten oasis
Well…
rustic mountain
kyogre to an extent to
molten oasis
Yk what I played lol
rustic mountain
yea lol
rustic mountain
Man I’m just realizing there’s so many things that get some time in the sun
lower power level makes it a more open field despite some things that are going to be high useage
silver ravine
Still need to workshop, but what do you guys think? Am I cooking? https://pokepast.es/2f710ec939d5e798
rustic mountain
zacian into csr is rough wen every csr has incin and can jus set off 2 barrages while u try and set up
ofc its not always exactly that but still
rustic mountain
Still need to workshop, but what do you guys think? Am I cooking? https://pokepa...
no move palafin is something
next stump
usually there’s a discord for your region of the U.S.
silver ravine
no move palafin is something
I did say I still need to workshop it D:
rustic mountain
nah im mostly kidding
molten oasis
zacian into csr is rough wen every csr has incin and can jus set off 2 barrages ...
Yea, it sucks
rustic mountain
team seems solid u have fwg core idk bout hawlucha but i see the synergy ur trying w/ grassy seed and rilla
id say if anything murkrow and electabuzz feel off for some reason
maybe not
try it out
next stump
and u jus find it how? haha
what state/region of the country do you live in? I think someone made a master list a while ago I can find it
silver ravine
I like murkrow for the anti prankster taunt and electabuzz is a decent follow me user. Also can do some damage to palafin.
next stump
I also haven’t played Reg H yet cause of worlds but I can’t wait for this shit to be over
rustic mountain
what state/region of the country do you live in? I think someone made a master l...
im tri state, so ny/nj/ct. and appreciate it
rustic mountain
I also haven’t played Reg H yet cause of worlds but I can’t wait for this shit t...
yea i figured i think the case for most ppl going. kinda sucks they dropped the new format now haha i saw some players on tub say theyd rather a new format for worlds be this
molten oasis
usually there’s a discord for your region of the U.S.
Mk
foggy lodge
I wonder is reg H will have actual tournaments or is it just a filler format
rustic mountain
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bfK2V-a7Y2hhrohH7f4qy_OaQkzm7VoyfC9EDvkd...
bet thx
gentle crag
rustic mountain
think i played enough reg h today 
next stump
I wonder is reg H will have actual tournaments or is it just a filler format
there will be at least 5 or more regionals in the new rules
molten oasis
think ppl are tired of urshi and shit
Yea
foggy lodge
Ohh good good
next stump
Reg H limitless usage stats
solid frigate
meteoric rise of BM Ursa
foggy lodge
The BM is like a legendary
solid frigate
I will miss some pokemon
Ogerpon,Bolt and Chi Yu i will miss rhem due to having soft spot for them
foggy lodge
It has the stats and is also 1 per game
solid frigate
mhm
foggy lodge
Ogerpon,Bolt and Chi Yu i will miss rhem due to having soft spot for them
Too
I was shiny hunting Entei ans then they announce hey its banned
solid frigate
i really love using Chi Yu as well
like Just a life saver for me who uses Special attackers
solid frigate
Goltres too
yeah
some Legendaries are indeed very good
I kinda also Miss Landorus Incarnate
solid frigate
Entei😭
Bolt,Iron Crown,Chi Yu,Ogerpon,Landorus Incarnate
i miss them besides the Boxart legendary
solid frigate
Ogerpon is very fun to teambuild
Landorus is just so damn dummy good in Damage that saved my games sometimes
Chi yu is beloved due to me being Special attacker
Bolt because it deals with Tornshifu
nocturne holly
Reg H limitless usage stats
Expected lmao
solid frigate
oh yeah i miss i buildinf Iron Boulder as well
molten oasis
Incin going nowhere what a surprise
solid frigate
to a suprise of ABSOLUTELY NOBODY
fallen garden
Incin is only leaving if they ban starter Pokemon for some reason
foggy lodge
They banned top usage in sw/sh one time
If that happened again then Inci would be banned
solid frigate
Incin is only leaving if they ban starter Pokemon for some reason
why do they do that tho
solid frigate
If that happened again then Inci would be banned
which is quite stupid honestly
the banlist in SWSH is just-
mighty stump
Why is everyones GXEs so low? How many games did that take
rustic mountain
Why is everyones GXEs so low? How many games did that take
my main acc is 78% gxe rn top 20
i think gxes are generally just kinda lower new format
then theyll hit like 70-80
mighty stump
Yeah but sub 70 at 1400s+ is pretty surprising
cuz by the time you’re around 1200s or 1300s you’d hit 70% already
rustic mountain
i think ppl are adjusting and a lot of players arent playing
mighty stump
Adjusting to what 😭 it’s just Palance
rustic mountain
im not 100% tho i think generally jus newer formats start out lower gxe for the most part
rustic mountain
Adjusting to what 😭 it’s just Palance
i went 15-0 w/ kommo ttar
rustic mountain
palance is not everywhere tho it is common
rustic mountain
0 fairy pressure
prim/whims/sylv but theres obvious workarounds
oh and hatterene
mighty stump
Yeah so 0 fairy pressure
torn parrot
Why is everyones GXEs so low? How many games did that take
not sure, things are just sloppy right now me thinks
Easy to abuse early ladder
torn parrot
holy fuck
mighty stump
Waiting to scout/snipe the 80% GXE players
rustic mountain
i was surprised i had the highest gxe in top 20
torn parrot
if i win next
torn parrot
i pray
rustic mountain
gl
torn parrot
thank u
torn parrot
Nice get rank 1
ill try lol
mighty stump
How many Mental Herb Farigiraf’s are there
rustic mountain
i havent faced that many so far
half geode
mighty stump
It’s a vacation
torn parrot
didnt get it 😔 ill keep playing tho
rustic mountain
eh atleast u got close, u can get there again
little plank
https://pokepast.es/9deb34b8b488f5f9 needs some advice on EVs 😄
bold geode
https://x.com/chefvgc/status/1818963289558089836?s=46&t=NSIK9f9OViHUJnm37QZcEQ
Not really even a casual and this still hurts 😭
bold geode
Reg H limitless usage stats
Wow still more usage for shroom than monkey wow
torn parrot
eh atleast u got close, u can get there again
i dunno its a really tough climb but ill try to keep playing
😔 i may give up soon for my own mental
it was cool how close i made it just a shame i didnt follow through
torn parrot
i think im gonna gip up
round turret
What regulation are we in and what's restricted rn
torn parrot
im feelin kinda warn out tbh
and also sad
it sucks ):
im all bummed out cus i got so close
and then fell off
little plank
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2171752082 way to close for comfort lol
cyan smelt
Oh yeah I'm gonna have to watch out for perish trap now
round turret
Is there a good replacement for flutter mane this reg?
cyan smelt
Mismagius 
next stump
Twitter
next stump
Is there a good replacement for flutter mane this reg?
I think Mimikyu will see some play again
round turret
Will Gholdengo run rampant for a bit at all? I'm hoping it doesn't
cyan smelt
Not with incin running rampant
next stump
Ghold will be heavy usage yes
round turret
Forgot incin was a thing
next stump
every ghold team will have water types or fighting types to deal with it
cyan smelt
Gholdengo gonna be annoying
round turret
What can I use on a ursaluna bloodmoon team rn
I'm thinking dusclops for trick room
round turret
Would cleffable be a good follow me or do I use something like indeedeeF
foggy lodge
Porygon2 can work i guess is more offensive than Farig
foggy lodge
Would cleffable be a good follow me or do I use something like indeedeeF
Clefairy better
If you want TR use Indeedee
cyan smelt
I want to try to use alolan golem in tr
next stump
What can I use on a ursaluna bloodmoon team rn
tbh I don’t think you really need trick room with it, but if you are leaning trick room the you’ll probably want to make sure you have your Amoonguss/Palafin/Incin matchup figured out
if you go TR against that style of team, you need ways to deal with spore
round turret
tbh I don’t think you really need trick room with it, but if you are leaning tri...
What do you think I should use for the bloodmoon team to deal with those threats
foggy lodge
Amoonguss/Palafin/Inci
round turret
Just use the threats against the threats?
cyan smelt
Put safety goggles on incin
foggy lodge
Gyarados is good against that core too
Taunt/safety goggles for Amoonguss, kills Inci, intimidate for Palafin and walls it
cyan smelt
Regular ursaluna can't get spored either
round turret
So, bm ursaluna, incin, palafin, amoongus, farig, Gyarados?
next stump
if you’re looking at enabling BM with trick room, I think you could look at some of the psyspam style teams
indeedee/armarouge/BM Ursa/Torkoal/Gallade
you could also go a softer TR style of team, one that can set it but doesn’t need it. I’d probably use Farig as the setter and use stuff like Baxcalibur or maybe even MausApe to try and have good matchups into the common pokemon
I haven’t played the format yet myself since I’m still testing for worlds so all of this is just in theory
but I think BM is best used right now on teams that have tailwind but don’t always need to use it since the format is a lot slower and you don’t need much speed investment to outspeed almost everything
round turret
What should I use for BM in terms of build and stats
If I'm not going into a trick room style team with bm
Is there a pokepaste team for it at all?
next stump
probably just max HP and max SpA with maybe a little SPE investment depending on what you want to outspeed under tailwind
nocturne holly
depend son what you wanna creep in tw
cyan smelt
I need to replace kleavor on my team but idk what to replace it with
round turret
If stuff like amoongus is gonna be a major threat to my team, I need to outspeed that to remove the threat on it
But if I were to go into a tr it wouldn't hurt to be a tiny bit slower
If that makes any sense
cyan smelt
Water tauros?
little plank
Yeah
molten oasis
the shifu cope is real
little plank
That last one I just played had chilling water and wave crash lol
cyan smelt
I should replace kleavor with kingambit
cyan smelt
Have you tried adding an ursa bm
little plank
I can't perish trap and my only offensive pressure to take it down is gengar which is walled by the mouse lol
Thinking about trying a mausape with a M indeedee sneasler mode with imprison lol
cyan smelt
Sneasler?
cyan smelt
How does that help against mausape and wouldn't follow me be better to redirect beat up
little plank
Oh I'm saying changing my team to a mausape team lol
cyan smelt
Oh
little plank
But yeah def need to go back to the drawing board for the perish trap team
round turret
What do we think of
Murkrow (Evolite)
Protect / Tailwind / Haze / Taunt
Bm Ursaluna (Life Orb)
Earth Power / Blood Moon / Hyper Voice / Protect
Incin (Safety Goggles)
Fake Out / Parting / Flare Blitz / Knock Off
Rillaboom (AV)
Wood Hammer / Grassy Glide / U-Turn / Fake Out
Farig (Throat Spray)
Hyper Voice / Psychic/ TR / Protect
Amoongus (Sitrus)
Spore / Rage Powder / Pollen Puff / Protect
Does this work as a solid team?
little plank
Looks like the basic Mets team being played
molten oasis
jeez im in 1200's strugglin and everyone else is in 1400's
torn parrot
GAHHHH i was one off and lost agaiannn
torn parrot
jeez im in 1200's strugglin and everyone else is in 1400's
im just using an old team that was successful
didnt make a new one yet
torn parrot
im not using an old team lol
i think anybody who is super high up is just using an old team
i just happened to have one tat perfectly fit this format
molten oasis
Ic
torn parrot
FFFFFUUUUUUUUCK YESSS
I SCREAMED
HYAAAHAHHHHAA
IM FEELING SUCH A GOD DAMN HIGH RIGHT NOW
nocturne holly
Congrats
balmy glen
nice
torn parrot
thank you ((:
nocturne holly
Banded harc does so much damage holy shit
mighty stump
Nice one
ItsJustKen with that impressive 55% GXE omg
What tat you have you mentioned
torn parrot
XD yeah its wild
cyan smelt
I'm not gonna use my reg a team because it was not good and autolost to mausape
Wonder if rampardos would work in tr
cyan smelt
Actually I wonder if cinderace is gonna be good seeing as it's faster than most of the format
torn parrot
Wait does ribombee's ability mean it can't be faked out
yeah it's a built in covert cloak
that's why i love it
actually that's 5% of why i love it
90% of why i love it is because its ribombee
cyan smelt
And it makes sticky web viable
Empoleon might see some use now because of competitive
round turret
https://pokepast.es/235e3eea0b606f27 can I get some advice for my BM team? I know there's some different things I can use but not 100% sure what
strange fjord
cyan smelt
I must be the only person using skeledirge
round turret
I must be the only person using skeledirge
Bro is the one and only 🗣️
cyan smelt
Meh idc because it helped me beat moody muk team and dozo
round turret
Real
torn parrot
wheres those statistics from
strange fjord
Currently available replays from bo1 ladder on showdown
ranked, no friendlies or anything
torn parrot
ohhhhh
atomic portal
whats ribombee at @strange fjord
strange fjord
1.12% ish
atomic portal
thats all u mf @torn parrot
torn parrot
they dont know her true power
strange fjord
ill update munchteams rn and see what ribombee replays i can find lol
cyan smelt
Maya is a trailblazer fr
molten oasis
Prima 10% I’m popping off
mighty stump
Looks about what I expect
cyan smelt
How come indeedee is higher than armarouge? Aren't they a pair or do people run indeedee without it
mighty stump
How come indeedee is higher than armarouge? Aren't they a pair or do people run ...
Not everyone using Indeedee is using Psyspam
Also the idea of alternative Psyspam users
cyan smelt
Makes sense
mighty stump
https://pokepast.es/235e3eea0b606f27 can I get some advice for my BM team? I kno...
Murkrow not really doing anything for the team + the Balance mode doesn’t actually look complete
Also 248 is wasting 4 EVs
mighty stump
Pick a direction. Either have a 4-2 where Farig/Luna is their own pair and have a complete Balance mode or run Tailwind HO with the Farig/Luna mode
Don’t just have mons cause they’re standard and good, they should be there for a reason
round turret
I wanted a mix of if I needed to use tailwind I could, but if I didn't need it it would be fine with tr
But idk how to make a good team rn
I haven't played in a good few months
Do you have any recommendations for the team in terms of Pokemon?
mighty stump
Think about the purpose of Tailwind and what you’re trying to enable rather than wanting TW for the sake of having it
round turret
I see, thank you
mighty stump
Leaning into the TR mode you’d probably end up having more like Torkoal/Hariyama/One of Rillaboom or Incineroar as FO options. You can also use Annihilape as a Final Gambit option to get immediate pivots into your TR mode
Then for a Tailwind HO Mode just pick easiest pair is just Murkrow + Gholdengo
But those are more specific in terms of the team’s flow
and would define the gameplan more accurately
round turret
So murk and Gholdengo would be fine on its own without hard help from the rest of the team?
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/26b902a31d9bb856 thoughts?
mighty stump
So murk and Gholdengo would be fine on its own without hard help from the rest o...
As a pair it’s cut and dry and then it’s up to you what you’re gonna do with what they can do
round turret
Tysm
cyan smelt
4 steel teras?
molten oasis
4 steel teras?
a team has had 6 water tera
mighty stump
https://pokepast.es/26b902a31d9bb856 thoughts?
You lose to Dozo
mighty stump
Focus Energy Hydreigon time
molten oasis
ah
cyan smelt
You might also struggle with mausape
mighty stump
Less concerned about that cause of Scarf Gholdengo + Hydreigon/Grimm
cyan smelt
Bm ursa?
molten oasis
prima
mighty stump
CM Prim + Screens is enough
cyan smelt
What do you do about hard tr
mighty stump
You don’t like the rest of the Farigiraf friends
molten oasis
play through it
molten oasis
You don’t like the rest of the Farigiraf friends
wha?
mighty stump
Also P2 + Regular Ursaluna can look like hell
molten oasis
shit that is a thing that can show up
gambit ursa also almost cooked me today as well
uhhhmm, do i need member changes for that then?
im fine with whatever, i like prima the way it is and i've liked hydrei, but idm what changes
didn't think about normal ursa at all
cyan smelt
I should ladder more and see how I go with gambit instead of kleavor
molten oasis
Yk what tr mu looks a lot worse now
cyan smelt
Torkoal?
molten oasis
why?
balmy glen
no clue on what to use
molten oasis
ah
cyan smelt
You'll smash it, I believe in you
balmy glen
I dont even have 1 mon i want to use
mighty stump
I dont even have 1 mon i want to use
Zamazenta your beloved
balmy glen
nah
ill let michael figure it out ig
only thing that sucks is
zama is such a nice caly ice wall lol
but so bad into csr
mighty stump
Lol
ember linden
Thoughts? https://pokepast.es/cf28e9524c4e83a0
Also Hi everyone I haven’t been active here in a minute
molten oasis
looks ok
cyan smelt
Looks like standard balance
mighty stump
Raichu looks kinda pointless ngl
Also if you’re gonna Tera Fire Sylveon since the only relevant Poison type is Amoonguss might as well go Tera Blast
Also high potential to lose to MausApe
cyan smelt
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/5ce75e6db7c33ad9 i like these 4 as a core, thoughts on other members?
https://pokepast.es/5584673b72146ab9 ill throw this at the ladder for a bit
cyan smelt
i'm losing on ladder a lot and it sucks
knotty mirage
Can sneasler be usable on reg H with unburden
molten oasis
wow i do not miss the psyspam guessing games
ember linden
Also if you’re gonna Tera Fire Sylveon since the only relevant Poison type is Am...
I have tera blast
I could swap out Bax for a scarf chomp that would help me into fire/steel tera Ape + scarf ape
pure cloak
what is the best nature for virizion?
ember linden
I can’t think of anything to help me with mausape besides MAYBE H-Zoro
Even then the mon is mid
ember linden
god i did not miss mausape or psyspam
Psyspam has been here
ember linden
Lol
No if you’re talking the old psyspam
Tr psyspam + CSR Psyspam still exists
Definitely not as big tho
But agreed I don’t miss either
cyan smelt
my team ain't working
ember linden
What’re you running?
cyan smelt
farig, rilla, skeledirge, ursa, kingambit and palafin'
ember linden
Are you using standard Palafin?
cyan smelt
hero palafin
ember linden
Ik, I’m talking sets
cyan smelt
idk
ember linden
Like Wavecrash Jetpunch Flipturn protect water tera
cyan smelt
wave crash, jet punch, haze
ember linden
Oh ok
I don’t think Palafin is going to be so easily slapped on anymore just bc of Rilla’s existence
Even with Fari
cyan smelt
i'm getting my ass beat by everyone
ember linden
What’s been happening?
molten oasis
well i can safely say my team is dogshit
time to rework when i feel like it
forgot how much i hate psyspam
ember linden
usual annoying incin things
Alr well start from scratch
What were mon/core were you trying to build around?
cyan smelt
idk maybe hard tr isn't the way to go
ember linden
That comp isn’t as hard of tr ngl
cyan smelt
kingambit has been performing well
pure cloak
what is the best nature for virizion?
ember linden
Either adamant or jolly
cyan smelt
how did an amoonguss outspeed me
mighty stump
https://pokepast.es/45ba2290528acff1
Looks better imo
mighty stump
well i can safely say my team is dogshit
Lol wat happened
molten oasis
Lol wat happened
I’m just struggling man
Team feels very clunky
I feel like along with this I’m playing poorly
Idk man I gotta take a break and reset
mighty stump
I solved Reg H
molten oasis
It’s the guessing game of armarouge being weakness policy or normal that’s annoying
mighty stump
lolwut
molten oasis
Hydreigon has been fine
mighty stump
Wat WP Arma
mighty stump
Flip Turn stuff?
molten oasis
Aqua jet Prima was one
mighty stump
Oh lol
Having redirection imo is always good if you don’t have immediate firepower to open with
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/5584673b72146ab9 I mean, it needs to be reworked but rn my line for Archaludon stuff is ep on hydrei
And I’m worried about Archa due to Prima not being good into that
I could see amoonguss working I suppose
mighty stump
If its Aqua Jet its probably AV
molten oasis
Feels like it’s going for 2 modes
mighty stump
So just have good memory
mighty stump
Every loss now is one less in the future
molten oasis
I remember what was there not necessarily how to beat it
Well, fair enough, I can play better although idk what I’m doing in the builder
Maybe I should be thinking harder about what I’m adding
And what it does
mighty stump
Give yourself the options, you can figure out the use of it later
molten oasis
Instead of “this is cool”
mighty stump
Remember each choice is intentional and influences your dynamic
molten oasis
I will remember that I suppose
I’ll see how testing goes tomorrow, I’ll figure it out I always have
Be it moving to a different focus or finding the sauce
cyan smelt
close combat incin wtf
chrome knot
Like I told Emma
good morning
pure cloak
Either adamant or jolly
is one better/more consistent than the other, or does it depend on the build?
mighty stump
close combat incin wtf
Such a based tech tbh
languid yew
Hey, I've thought about making a team from Initiative Pokémons for PvP what would look like & I would be interested to know how you see it: Meowscarada, Roaring Moon, Iron Valiant, Iron Bundle, Flutter Mane and kilowattrel.
(sry, my english is Not very good)
solid frigate
Hey, I've thought about making a team from Initiative Pokémons for PvP what woul...
Honestly with the upcoming format of 4/6 Team are banned
languid yew
Which of these are banned?
mighty stump
Paradox Mons and Legends
languid yew
ouh, okay
mighty stump
That’s not for another month. Current format is Legends + Paradox
languid yew
Thanks for the information
mighty stump
So you kinda need a Restricted mon for now
cyan smelt
Yeah my team is ass so back to the drawing board
I think I need palafin/rilla and gambit but not sure on the other 3
Skele is just knock off bait for incin
Might try water tauros or Gyarados instead of palafin
I don't have intim on my team which is probably a problem
timber falcon
I think I need palafin/rilla and gambit but not sure on the other 3
why gambit
next stump
any reason you’re not using incin yourself with palafin and rilla?
timber falcon
also if youre thinking of replacing palafin, what are you building around???
cyan smelt
I have no idea
timber falcon
then i think its best you first find what kinda team youre trying ot build
cyan smelt
I guess I stubbornly thought I could make skele work
timber falcon
skele doesnt look great rn. considering the amount of rain teams im seeing and the ursaluna tr teams
but it can work
cyan smelt
It's just incin bait at this point
timber falcon
true, im not seeing it have much of an impact on the field
cyan smelt
I'm not seeing much dozo and mausape
cyan smelt
I guess I don't need skele because I have haze on palafin
timber falcon
whats the palafin set?
cyan smelt
I borrowed dollarmonke's one, haze, jet punch, wave crash, protect
cyan smelt
Idk if I should forget about using farig too because it's incin bait as well
next stump
palafin balance doesn’t really need farig
bold geode
Idk if I should forget about using farig too because it's incin bait as well
As much as people say it, Palafin is not Incin bait LMFAO
You are still doing fat chunks with Wave Crash
cyan smelt
I'm not saying palafin is, I'm saying farig and skele are
next stump
252 Atk Tsareena Power Whip vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Palafin-Hero: 200-236 (96.6 - 114%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
could be an interesting soft answer to palafin
block jet punch, can outspeed a decent amount of palafin, immune to rage powder, and you can OHKO it
cyan smelt
Decent into rilla too
nocturne holly
https://pokepast.es/f93e711732c7c09e thoughts?
next stump
Dozo matchup looks tough but other than that the team seems solid
oh I didn’t see the clear smog on amoonguss
that will help a lot
still not great ways to hit Dondozo but that’s not always 100% needed if you clear its boosts
timber falcon
Sylveon @ Throat Spray
Ability: Pixilate
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 60 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 188 Spe
Modest Nature
- Hyper Voice
- Quick Attack
- Tera Blast
- Protect
i found this set on munchstats, any clue on why its running tera blast?
next stump
are you sure the tera was fairy?
timber falcon
yes i copy pasted it
nvm i get it
its for wide guard probably, since the set is reg G
next stump
tera blast is normally run on Sylveon because its ability turns normal moves into fairy moves, so if you run tera blast it doubles as a fairy move AND a coverage move when you tera
I saw it a lot back in the day with water or fire tera
nocturne holly
still not great ways to *hit* Dondozo but that’s not always 100% needed if you c...
Yeah I could also do rilla over amoonguss and then haze on Palafin
nocturne holly
Dozo matchup looks tough but other than that the team seems solid
Do you think grim is ok on this?
next stump
I cant really say because I haven
oops
haven't tested it, but I can't see it being that bad
nocturne holly
I need some speed control
I would say hydreigon but double dragon doesn’t sound good
Fairy and ice aren’t bad for me though so ig maybe?
I’m also pretty weak into ground
timber falcon
https://pokepast.es/0d828c5b90de96da thoughts here?
i dont plan on taking this reg too seriously, just looking for some fun. Hence the team
cyan smelt
of course the ursa bm lived on 1 hp
wtf just ran into a gholdengo with focus blast and a tera water one
timber falcon
tera water seems reasonable
nocturne holly
What speed controllers are there rn
I desperately need speed control
Honestly murkrow doesn’t seem bad
Or encore whims
But I have amoonguss and that’s double grass
Murkrow also gets taunt
timber falcon
then go for murkrow
mighty stump
Whimsicott, Murkrow, Salamence, Pelipper are all viable TW users lol
timber falcon
any ideas for a last 2 mons here
cyan smelt
tera dragon gholdengo wut
timber falcon
the gameplan (main one) is flip turn into armourouge and activate weakness policy, activating hero palafin anf enablimg be to maybe swamp something like indee on the field
but after that im at a loss
mighty stump
Why the fuck are you light mode
nocturne holly
real
timber falcon
dark mode is for edgy teens like you lot
mighty stump
That just makes me not want to help you
nocturne holly
isn’t paste dark mode by default 😭
mighty stump
I'm literally an adult with a job I value my eyesight
You had to make the active decision to want to blind out your retinas
timber falcon
dark mode just looks sadder though
mighty stump
Teenagers, so emotional about everything
nocturne holly
this is not better
mighty stump
Smh
mighty stump
Bro said not seeing is less sad than being able to see
nocturne holly
Bro said not seeing is less sad than being able to see
Tofu what item do you think is best for pala
nocturne holly
wbt scarf or band?
timber falcon
better?
mighty stump
Scarf is bad on Palafin
nocturne holly
why
mighty stump
Just is. It doesn't give any significant value to Palafin that it cannot naturally just have. Plus you already have Prio Jet Punch
You're also base 100 Spe, why do you need Scarf in Reg H
timber falcon
which mons work well with a gimmicky armourouge?
mighty stump
Aqua Jet Primarina is usually the choice.
nocturne holly
You're also base 100 Spe, why do you need Scarf in Reg H
How much do I run on pala I’m like max hp
timber falcon
Aqua Jet Primarina is usually the choice.
but i feel like with that palafin i can get the activation too and its a win win, i did think of primarina
mighty stump
That's up to you to decide lol. Depends on what MUs you're gonna be depending on Spe
mighty stump
but i feel like with that palafin i can get the activation too and its a win win...
Tunnel visioning on Palafin then being locked into either Jet Punch or Wave Crash is gonna feels bad man
wary trench
Which team metas do you guys think will be better in reg H? Kinda hoping trick room picks up
mighty stump
Also just open to being cleared by FO in this scenario
mighty stump
Which team metas do you guys think will be better in reg H? Kinda hoping trick r...
Balance and TR are already pretty obvious. Only specific TR variants are going to be meta. Psyspam usually get's outpaced by Incin/Rilla Balance
timber falcon
Which team metas do you guys think will be better in reg H? Kinda hoping trick r...
all im seeing lately
great, tera dark porygon to stop my psyspam.
who tf runs tera dark porygon 
mighty stump
It'd be foolish to think people won't run counters to Psyspam lol
timber falcon
but why porygon
psychic tera wouldve made more sense for the extra fighting weakness no?
mighty stump
Barely any relevant Fighting types that can even OHKO. Plus it's early format, random shit.
timber falcon
ima swap to primarina
mighty stump
Reg H is just pure knowledge checks and being able to fish out information on CTS
timber falcon
yeah ive underestimated the amount of people that expect armourouge
maybe i should try find a strat thats not as easy to account for
mighty stump
Maybe you should try to find a team that's just solid and doesn't depend on make-or-break gimmicks
timber falcon
tru
solid frigate
any ideas for a last 2 mons here
Why Light mode lol
chrome knot
@mighty stump how do i select indeedee female on my worlds fantasy
chrome knot
it only shows indeedee boy
mighty stump
Indeedee-F...?
chrome knot
but it might be generalizing them under species clause
mighty stump
Maybe
chrome knot
im not sure if i wanna take farig or indeedee
mighty stump
Farig
mighty stump
Yea
dull ibex
showdown stream anyone?
mighty stump
showdown stream anyone?
Time to watch Red be hardstuck let's go
bold geode
Barely any relevant Fighting types that can even OHKO. Plus it's early format, r...
Tauros crossed my mind 
mighty stump
If Tauros can OHKO Eviolite P2, i'd be very surprised
solid frigate
https://pokepast.es/bbb884a27554fb6a does this work
zinc totem
some reg H team theorycrafting. Ngl beatup justified lucario is pretty fun and does well (in sd atleast)
mighty stump
L
zinc totem
ofcourse annihilape centric team would be much more better and stronger probably and it would do same thanks to rage fist boost from maushold
solid frigate
just do the rentals after the Regulation H is started
zinc totem
just do the rentals after the Regulation H is started
oh this is just to make it easier view team haha
balmy glen
ive never not wanted to play mons more than having to play reg g
zinc totem
and if people has opinion if beatup lucario would be semi-strong for H
solid frigate
Annihilape over Lucario kek
zinc totem
Annihilape over Lucario kek
https://pokepast.es/7dbf991dfdc18e76 i actually have torkoal team with annihilape with beatup maus
torn parrot
i want a fuckin pizza that's what i want
chrome knot
huh
mighty stump
I mentioned competitive pokemon on my dating app and it worked like 80% of the time
chrome knot
no i hate all of you axtually
mighty stump
The biggest secret is it's not the nerdy hobby, it's being socially weird that puts people off!
solid frigate
I mentioned competitive pokemon on my dating app and it worked like 80% of the t...
i think you did that twice but honestly
Just do what you want is fine
like Play Pokemon Comp is nerdy but it benefits you in some way
nocturne holly
https://pokepast.es/e842cf0e146f1ce4 is this too much set up? Bax does a ton of damage without and dd I use it more like a win con
balmy glen
I mentioned competitive pokemon on my dating app and it worked like 80% of the t...
My girlfriends parents are part of the 20%
They asked me why I’m wasting my time lmao
Indirectly tho
(They asked my gf that)
solid frigate
They asked me why I’m wasting my time lmao
but then again,you did not waste your time,Look at you now,Top 8
balmy glen
Tbh
I get what they are saying tho top 8 isn’t really much and they come from a rich family 😭
solid frigate
I get what they are saying tho top 8 isn’t really much and they come from a rich...
oh-
Thats sad honestly
mighty stump
Pult sucks without Pao
mighty stump
I get what they are saying tho top 8 isn’t really much and they come from a rich...
Bruh
solid frigate
i wonder if dragapult gonna become one of stronger choises too for reg H
Archaludon,Hydreigon and Garchomp will be the main bois in Dragon types
solid frigate
Asian family
exactly.
zinc totem
they know how to deal EMOTIONAL DAMAGE
that is super effective
(yes im bored beacuse i am trying get annihilape outbreak)
solid frigate
Its not about Emotional Damage
zinc totem
Its not about Emotional Damage
tell that to steven
zinc totem
but yes. Asians have it probably most rough beacuse Asian parents tend to push their children into harder pressure due all education and such
thats how i understood it, and they tend not approve anything else but goals they've set
mighty stump
That's the basic form of the stereotype
solid frigate
Its more deeper than you know
zinc totem
yeah definetly. Im not asian myself so i can never see deeper into it as outsider unless i marry into Asian family but even then i prob see only small things so i know only things i've been told by asians and what little research i've managed done
balmy glen
solid frigate
<a:snooze_cat1:654072393760768006>
chrome knot
keanu
timber falcon
do you guys think sneasler rilla could work?
zinc totem
do you guys think sneasler rilla could work?
definetly. I did actually sneasler rilla team with basculegion
tho you probably want shadow claw for sneasler as coverage
solid frigate
do you guys think sneasler rilla could work?
i mean it worked in Reg D as a Niche,Go for it
timber falcon
ill try it out
timber falcon
tho you probably want shadow claw for sneasler as coverage
isnt throat chop tera dark better
solid frigate
isnt throat chop tera dark better
honestly its good to Shut down Sylveon’s Hyper Voice
torn parrot
i wonder if dragapult gonna become one of stronger choises too for reg H
iv seen him alot
it makes sense since he's the second fastest guy
kind of annoying
timber falcon
which mons make a good duo
im thinking sneasler and rilla then maybe tatsudozo
a 2-2-2 strat
or maybe balance is better
zinc totem
isnt throat chop tera dark better
it does work well but i wouldnt run tera dark but ghost or something else as defensive
https://pokepast.es/268ec57c5ba4ae8f this is team im kinda gone for, throat chop might round it up nicely but then again dire claw already makes sylveon threeatened a lot so shadow claw i see abit more better for pokemons like annihilape, dengo and such
solid frigate
a 2-2-2 strat
yeah its alright,I would do 4-2 due to I want my teams to have 2 modes with one being the main strat
timber falcon
it does work well but i wouldnt run tera dark but ghost or something else as def...
dark gets rid of my quad and enables STAB with throat chop. perfect for fairig, indeedee and armourouge
timber falcon
yeah its alright,I would do 4-2 due to I want my teams to have 2 modes with one ...
true true
zinc totem
dark gets rid of my quad and enables STAB with throat chop. perfect for fairig, ...
yeah, defdinetly for farti specially gets rid of that hyper voice shenanigans
timber falcon
maybe ill go balance on the first 4, then tatsudozo
solid frigate
maybe ill go balance on the first 4, then tatsudozo
Good start
zinc totem
so it really depends what team you go for what move set you give for sneasler
mighty stump
it does work well but i wouldnt run tera dark but ghost or something else as def...
Looks like it loses to MausApe
zinc totem
Looks like it loses to MausApe
well for me hengo been a bit trouble which is why im considering shadow claw as coverage
next stump
AV dnite was good in reg A and B
it's probably still good, maybe even better without flutter
zinc totem
is dnite worth using this reg?
its pseudo leghend and without restricted power creeps, it will be super strong especially now flutter is gone
timber falcon
its pseudo leghend and without restricted power creeps, it will be super strong ...
loses its main buff for sv though, which was the chien pao boost
i would do av dnite, however i want rilla on the team, maybe i swap items?
then again im not even sure what dnite brings to the team
balmy glen
mighty stump
loses its main buff for sv though, which was the chien pao boost
The SoR brainrot is real
solid frigate
it's probably still good, maybe even better without flutter
It also better against Bloodmoon as well
balmy glen
@mighty stump did u see this PolarBear team
timber falcon
this is the six ive almost settled with
mighty stump
This is the what
timber falcon
doesnt elctro thingy run through dozo
mighty stump
What does Tera do
solid frigate
Electro Shot?
timber falcon
What does Tera do
change type
ig unaware helps, but then im affected by intimidate
mighty stump
What does clear amulet do
cyan smelt
god gholdengo is so strong
mighty stump
Gholdengod
solid frigate
god gholdengo is so strong
Best Spread Damage Mon frfr
cyan smelt
i'm gonna need to put av on gambit i think
solid frigate
AV SD Gambit?
cyan smelt
no just 4 move gambit
solid frigate
ah ok
cyan smelt
have you seen moodymukvgc on the showdown rooms lmao, he made another moody muk team
solid frigate
have you seen moodymukvgc on the showdown rooms lmao, he made another moody muk ...
Oml not again
cyan smelt
substitute and low kick flamigo to deal with ursa bm
timber falcon
anyone have AV rilla set?
solid frigate
I’m gonna die
mighty stump
@woodtofu let me innnnn
its in
timber falcon
so many tera steel dengos damn
mighty stump
It's just specs Dengo
timber falcon
i hate specs dengo
tranquil kraken
next stump
with dozo on your team?
timber falcon
was embarrasing
beat up and one bulk up was all it took for dozo to be gone in 2 hits
tera dragon stopped me from using stab wave crash
mighty stump
Kekw
shadow wind
Tera dragon? Do you not have order up?
torn parrot
i think excadrill is pretty good
mighty stump
Probably was the moment of Tera, not post-Tera
timber falcon
Tera dragon? Do you not have order up?
wasnt enough, 80bp move with no stab
timber falcon
i was using unaware....
timber falcon
mhm
mighty stump
Ape is so funny
timber falcon
no.2 on my opp list now
mighty stump
Who's number 1
torn parrot
i was using unaware....
jeez
maybe a crash?
timber falcon
tera steel dengo
torn parrot
iu guess crash might not kill
timber falcon
jeez
maybe a crash?
tera dragon remember
torn parrot
yeah true
torn parrot
any missing gen 5 art for the new pokemon?
torn parrot
Fire or steel is what I saw
timber falcon
yeah i lost to firw
knotty mirage
Huh primarina starting to get used i might want build her later
solid frigate
Huh primarina starting to get used i might want build her later
Its probably the Best Special Water Type Attacker
knotty mirage
Prolly another annihilape
As far i can tell the biggest check for annihilape is flutter who well not available on the reg
timber falcon
dgleam
it doesnt like dgleam
ima replace salamnce with smth that would be more of a help
torn parrot
how do people actually deal with anihilape
I kill maus
mighty stump
There is one very good wall to Annihilape
torn parrot
And ignore ape till I can one shot
mighty stump
Also mainly kill the beat-up user, like Maya said
timber falcon
And ignore ape till I can one shot
and let ape sweep u?
mighty stump
Break the BU system and Annihilape is kinda useless
mighty stump
and let ape sweep u?
Can't sweep if it can't do anything
torn parrot
and let ape sweep u?
Eh it’s not too scary with a 50 and a 75 base power move I can let it stay alive for a little bit
Till I’m able to deal with it
mighty stump
Annihilape can end up suffering from "All my friends are dead" syndrome
torn parrot
Lmao yeah
mighty stump
Lol
torn parrot
😭👍 wooooo!!!
timber falcon
hisuian zoroak :0
mighty stump
It walls Ape
charred saddle
wall yo mom
mighty stump
POV: You’re a HO Pokemon watching a slower Pokemon move first to delete you and your team
karmic temple
LMFAO
timber falcon
HO teams when you pop moongus in tr
say i was confused in pokemon, does my defence boost help?
against the damage
foggy lodge
Wide guard blocks dragon darts?
solid frigate
POV: You’re a HO Pokemon watching a slower Pokemon move first to delete you and ...
pfft
mighty stump
Wide guard blocks dragon darts?
It doesn’t
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
timber falcon
tbh dozogiri isnt working for me
solid frigate
Wide guard blocks dragon darts?
i actually dont know
timber falcon
i think i gotta restart at sneasler rilla, cause that duo is whats satying consistent
chrome knot
cant believe adi is using dozo
nocturne holly
https://pokepast.es/e842cf0e146f1ce4 thoughts on a speed control Mon on the last slot? Thinking of fari, murkrow, or whims
polar canyon
I kinda wanna try meowscarada again
foggy lodge
https://pokepast.es/e842cf0e146f1ce4 thoughts on a speed control Mon on the last...
Yeah Whims
polar canyon
135 speed tier is gone
foggy lodge
Dragon/fairy/steel core
polar canyon
If you wanna really go back to pre legends and paradoxes meta use murkrow
You also get the classic murk ghold combo
cyan smelt
getting sick of all the bs in this reg already
timber falcon
getting sick of all the bs in this reg already
fr i dont even know what to expect
sure theres stuff like mausape
but then the 4 other mons are completely random
solid frigate
Come back in 2 years for next gen
Lmao
knotty mirage
It just prediction i think
balmy glen
But I seen scraw vgc talk about it
Fake news
polar canyon
but then the 4 other mons are completely random
Yeah because it's not been long enough for everyone to know what's the solid best game plan yet
craggy dagger
meow-?
cyan smelt
it's all just psyspam
timber falcon
it's all just psyspam
im seeing way more politoad and ape than id like
balmy glen
Fake news my guy got clickbaited rip
graceful flare
balmy glen
Talon lies too
chrome knot
this is like C tier gaslighting
balmy glen
ty
chrome knot
<a:KissuNose:692926171771568149>
wah boop
graceful flare
this is like C tier gaslighting
What is gaslighting
balmy glen
this is like C tier gaslighting
Honestly could do better I’m just in shock
chrome knot
What is gaslighting
you already know what it means
graceful flare
I dont
chrome knot
except you do :/
balmy glen
Emma what restricted should I play
graceful flare
Is it like forcing someone to belive u or sum similar
I seen a cringe asmr gaslighting video on tiktok and that's what thw person was doinf
graceful flare
Emma what restricted should I play
Double trust
chrome knot
Emma what restricted should I play
zamazenta
balmy glen
Moment
balmy glen
Zam beats CIR most of the time
chrome knot
yes
balmy glen
So I gotta destroy your fantasy draft gg
balmy glen
Nah I will
balmy glen
Me when I just use my indie team
chrome knot
then u roll 3 japanese players in s row
chrome knot
they got the freak teams
balmy glen
Just their team lul
graceful flare
my draft is S tier going into worlds
Your invited into worlds?