#competitive_discussion

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mighty stump
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Also unironically an option

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 457: Lumineon
Type

Water

Abilities

Swift Swim, Storm Drain, Water Veil (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

69/69/76/69/86/91

Total

460

solid frigate
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I just wanna ask

When the fuck it has Tailwind-

mighty stump
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I remember it winning a Hong Kong event

solid frigate
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or am i just blind

craggy dagger
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yes tailwind icy wind

mighty stump
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I should probably start writing about Reg H soon for Emma’s sake too

solid frigate
chrome knot
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finding friends that would enjoy lurantis company is actually difficult

solid frigate
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also Sinclair said Gren Palossand makes me feel quite interested

mighty stump
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Oh I can help with that, Emma

chrome knot
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funny setup pieces for lurantis seem too passive

mighty stump
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Have you ever played MausApe

solid frigate
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should i just use Tera Grass Greninja or just more offensive Tera Water

chrome knot
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non

solid frigate
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dude

mighty stump
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MausApe + Lurantis sounds funny

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  • Pelipper and then 2 mons whatever you want
chrome knot
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what is the gimmick behind mausape

solid frigate
chrome knot
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oh

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maus gets charm which is cute

solid frigate
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The thing whimsicott do to Terrakion

craggy dagger
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tera steel population bomb firefly_catstare

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with a -atk nature 0 atk maus

solid frigate
craggy dagger
solid frigate
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also ngl i dont get it with Palossand Greninja combo

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like Water Compaction i forgot how it functions

dapper crag
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Ability: Water Compaction

This Pokemon's Defense is raised 2 stages after it is damaged by a Water-type move.

dense latch
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what threats should I account for the most when building a team?

mighty stump
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The volatility of the combination between standsrd Maus Ape vs Pop Bomb/Gambit makes it also hard to tell in CTS scenarios

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The myriad of supporting moves Maushold also gets means you can’t really guarantee a shutdown on that set between things like Taunt, Encore, Baby-Doll Eyes

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Only real way you tend to beat MausApe is to deny the initial set up and then overwhelm it with strong consistent HO, which also doesn’t always work since defensive Teras come into play fairly quickly

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Depending on what system you use

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Then there is also the mirror

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Also, the main mistake people tend to make is caring too much about Annihilape

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Once you just get rid of Maushold you basically deactivate the system

chrome knot
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would I be crazy putting in p2 + ursa at the back of this

mighty stump
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Nope

chrome knot
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like this has no fundamental core to it

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its just aids on a platter

mighty stump
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Usually MausApe is either opener or closer

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So it’s really up to you

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P2 Ursa sounds like itll work on Palance better though

pallid hare
foggy lodge
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I wonder if Maushold will be better than Clefairy on this reg

mighty stump
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You cannot recreate MausApe with Clef at all

foggy lodge
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Makes sense

solid frigate
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Its a formula that is fixated

chrome knot
mighty stump
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Maushold is also more active in participating with the opposition

polar nest
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uhhh

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that was unexpected

polar nest
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welp

solid frigate
chrome knot
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ok in terms of this working, I give it 0

mighty stump
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Kinda looks how I expect it to go

polar nest
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powercreep is real

solid frigate
polar nest
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i just didnt expect pokemon to acutally do it

chrome knot
polar nest
chrome knot
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ur the gimmick girl and ive created a monstrosity

mighty stump
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Lol, Pokemon has done Spikemuth Cup and Banlist formats before

craggy dagger
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i will do that

mighty stump
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Reg H feels pretty standard compared to the alternative

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I’m just grateful.

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And also mildly annoyed I personally still have to play Reg G

nocturne holly
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Breath of fresh air

mighty stump
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Even through Reg H

solid frigate
mighty stump
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Oh, I know it’s not that bad. I’m always the last person to lament about a format

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I’m just personally bored of it

solid frigate
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and sure innovation is a thing for all formats,Its the repetition of Reg G makes is bored

mighty stump
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Like it’s still growing, just we’ve already hit a plateau

chrome knot
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@mighty stump im ngl I pulled up usage stats for January of 2023

mighty stump
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It’s a funny chart

craggy dagger
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welcome to
um
early vgc

solid frigate
mighty stump
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But the best thing is it’s just Reg A++

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Since we get DLC mons

craggy dagger
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i like it

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didnt reg A have ruin quartet though?

mighty stump
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No

solid frigate
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reg C

craggy dagger
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oh

mighty stump
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No Paradox either

craggy dagger
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am misremembering then

mighty stump
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So its Reg A

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Or Series 1

chrome knot
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ok give em hell nova GiggleHehe

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Lurantis is Atk hits bump, from reg g I know 75 is a comfort cir number so imma go 75 same on that rest in bulk

balmy glen
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.

chrome knot
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LOL hi keanu

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 754: Lurantis
Type

Grass

Abilities

Leaf Guard, Contrary (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

70/105/90/80/90/45

Total

480

Other Formes

Lurantis-Totem

solid frigate
dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 979: Annihilape
Types

Fighting/Ghost

Abilities

Vital Spirit, Inner Focus, Defiant (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

110/115/80/50/90/90

Total

535

foggy lodge
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Damn

mighty stump
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Lol

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Can’t wait to farm the mirrors

solid frigate
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how to make Primeape Great again

Its simple:Kill them when they have Growth Spurts

mighty stump
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I have the most optimised MausApe

solid frigate
craggy dagger
mighty stump
solid frigate
mighty stump
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If I’m bored I’ll bust out the MausApe

solid frigate
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not gonna spoil

chrome knot
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@craggy dagger smol change peli goes 236 in SpAtk 12 in HP 4 in both Def stats pla

mighty stump
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Me and Yotam hit like

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Top 10 on ladder

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Last time it was relevant

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Despite the mirrors

molten oasis
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I slept too long

solid frigate
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i still have to build a Greninja Team AHHHHHHHHH

solid frigate
mighty stump
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Oh wait I’m pretty sure the Reg A system we have is gonna just blow through the opp

balmy glen
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you guys can make the meta calls snooze_cat1

mighty stump
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Lmao

solid frigate
balmy glen
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basc is

molten oasis
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Primarina gonna be good (it’s probably cope)

balmy glen
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a top 5 mon so ye

mighty stump
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I won’t be surprised to see Horoark

balmy glen
mighty stump
molten oasis
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Snow will have, something maybe

molten oasis
balmy glen
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only thing that even contests prim for best fairy is atales

mighty stump
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Drago eating good today

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Lol

molten oasis
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I’m popping off

mighty stump
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Any format Rotom is good in is a good format

balmy glen
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^

molten oasis
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I get to use my favorites and not suffer drastically

bold geode
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Sylveon kinda dog water ngl

balmy glen
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tbh I have a prim team

molten oasis
solid frigate
bold geode
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Idek what imma do now
Might go with the rain Peli Arch shit

molten oasis
balmy glen
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I won one of the vgc reg h 60 person room tours with prim xd

bold geode
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Peli Arch Pala Incin Amoongus + 1

mighty stump
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Move on

molten oasis
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Throat spray prim I think will be really good

molten oasis
mighty stump
molten oasis
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Ik you won’t share the sauce lol

balmy glen
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I think mine was rocky helmet

solid frigate
bold geode
balmy glen
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no i will i dont mind

molten oasis
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Nvm you kinda shared the sauce

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Oh?

balmy glen
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its a recreation of my old team tbh

bold geode
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I thought about it in vet office like damn Comfey Ape Arch would kinda go hard

mighty stump
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lol

bold geode
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It needs help Special Defense wise though

mighty stump
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Archaludon already does that on its own

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Lol

solid frigate
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honestly i really love how we fusing old and new meta together

molten oasis
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I’m gonna be on Prima hype train but I’m not sure where to go with it. I played some bo3’s yesterday with a friend

mighty stump
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You know the Churchaludon spread

bold geode
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Yeah could probably like just
Tera Grass Arch lol

molten oasis
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He played mausape my entire line was spamming hyper voice

bold geode
balmy glen
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then find ur dragon type

solid frigate
bold geode
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I have the Comfey and Ape spreads

molten oasis
bold geode
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Honestly
Comfey Ape Arch hmmmmm
Sableye and fuck it Incin Rilla?

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Or do we shroom

molten oasis
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What other dragons are there

mighty stump
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Salamence…

molten oasis
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nocturne holly
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Mence is also backkkkk

balmy glen
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mence is back on rain ye

molten oasis
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Meh

solid frigate
nocturne holly
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Scarf Mence

balmy glen
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theres a lot of good dragons wdym

molten oasis
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Oh wait mence seriously back?

mighty stump
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Bro it’s Reg H

balmy glen
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all dragons are good look at the fairies xd

solid frigate
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Salamence is doing Roaring Moon’s Job but better

mighty stump
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Yeah

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Literally any Dragon

molten oasis
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True the threat is Prima for dragons lol

foggy lodge
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We are back to Azumarill being the best physical fairy type

molten oasis
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And Prima gets nuked by physical hits

solid frigate
mighty stump
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wym

bold geode
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Actually Tofu dumb idea
Comfey Ape Arch Sableye
And then a Sand duo

solid frigate
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i probably played badly but eh

molten oasis
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Uhm, lemme go stare at the builder

mighty stump
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Churchaludon solos

molten oasis
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Churchaladon stonks rise

solid frigate
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wait i can just Build my Reg F Team minus Urshifu lmao

molten oasis
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Oh can we see a return to harc?

nocturne holly
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Prima dengo bax core

mighty stump
bold geode
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Like Sand to mess with weather and for a faster paced offensive duo, plus Sand with Arch or Tera Steel Ape widdle down shit

solid frigate
nocturne holly
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Yea harc is coming back so excited d

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Banded harc was one of my faves

bold geode
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Tofu looks at that like "MausApe"

mighty stump
bold geode
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LMFAO
Y'KNOW WHAT

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Incin Palafin Rilla Gholdie MausApe
Can't beat em join em

molten oasis
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Apparently my team’s weakness was dozo and not mausape which surprised me

mighty stump
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Bro its easy to beat MausApe

molten oasis
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But i have a spread water attacker lol

dull ibex
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vc anyone?

solid frigate
mighty stump
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I wonder

solid frigate
bold geode
molten oasis
bold geode
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VC Tofu?

foggy lodge
mighty stump
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Nope not even H-Arc can do it

dull ibex
solid frigate
mighty stump
molten oasis
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Hyper voice makes sound moves water moves

mighty stump
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I have work, I should be asleep but I can’t sleep for some reason

foggy lodge
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I suppose pixilate also gets the stab boost too?

bold geode
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I need help with Reg H
They took my legends and now I'm crying cuz my toys are gone

mighty stump
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My brother in christ you have more toys now than before

molten oasis
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Monke we can go experiment if you want

molten oasis
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There’s so many things to play with lol

bold geode
spiral ridge
molten oasis
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LOL

mighty stump
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Just don’t lose in the builder LOL

bold geode
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Tofu we can figure out bullshit lmao

dull ibex
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what are the rules of reg h anyways

mighty stump
molten oasis
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Me building the sauce just for it to lose to dozo

spiral ridge
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And if you want body press zama back just like. Population bomb onto archaludon for similar damage poliwhirlkek

bold geode
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Tofu help me with Churchaludon

mighty stump
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Hell no

mighty stump
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If you can’t teambuild in Reg A what are u doing

spiral ridge
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Oh yeah you did tell me that

molten oasis
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LMAO

bold geode
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Actually
Kommo-O Ttar hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

molten oasis
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Monke, past knowledge helps

bold geode
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Mausape

dull ibex
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is it time to bust of my reg b team again

mighty stump
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No Legends

molten oasis
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Like drastically

dull ibex
bold geode
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Drago if so get in this VC and let's cook mfer

molten oasis
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Ok

balmy glen
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ye nah im just going to copy n paste my old team this too easy

dull ibex
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ok ok hear me out

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tailwind hyper offense

bold geode
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Thing is I sucked ass in Reg A so

dull ibex
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I was good at reg a I think

bold geode
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This lower level is actually new to me KekHands

mighty stump
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Well apply what you learned.

bold geode
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Apply what I learned
Apparently what I learned all loses to MausApe so I guess my lesson is run MausApe

mighty stump
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If u know what ure doing this is basically easy mode

molten oasis
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@dull ibex open up the vc

foggy lodge
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It got top 8 at a regional

rustic mountain
dull ibex
rustic mountain
spiral ridge
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Ooo harcanine

rustic mountain
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its been very good

nocturne holly
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What item

rustic mountain
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leftovers

nocturne holly
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I’ve been running LO

rustic mountain
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yea think it ofc depends on team comp

nocturne holly
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Yea

rustic mountain
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double fake out + grassy terrain plot lefties made sense

nocturne holly
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I have incin + amoonguss as the support

dull ibex
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🙂

balmy glen
rustic mountain
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cant go wrong w/ incin shroom

balmy glen
craggy dagger
nocturne holly
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https://pokepast.es/9630d78de98ce96e grim or d nite on this? Also sd or ice shard on bax? Sd can be really good because I don’t always have to use it for damage and if I do can just sweep
Bax still hits hella hard without boosts

craggy dagger
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i did just start reg H as well

bold geode
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I was trying at first like Palafin Incin Rilla Ghold Sylv Dnite when like
I wanted to do Kommo-O

rustic mountain
bold geode
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Although idk if I do Incin still or Harc

rustic mountain
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its been really good jus took me a 2nd to get a handle on such a different format lol

bold geode
rustic mountain
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i guess luckily i havent played mausape yet. i feel like w/ tw and rain id be fine

craggy dagger
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idk

balmy glen
foggy lodge
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Thoughts on Gyarados?

balmy glen
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with slight readjustments

rustic mountain
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old sauce turned new sauce

bold geode
balmy glen
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wowowo

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not the far down the line lul

bold geode
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Lmao
That's what I was thinking KekHands

bold geode
craggy dagger
chrome knot
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OOPS

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I mustve deleted old peli and added new 😭

craggy dagger
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you almost cost me a game girl

molten oasis
little plank
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I can't find anything that's consistent lol

craggy dagger
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nm i lost it anyways

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who runs specs salamence

dull ibex
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is my team garbage 🤔

craggy dagger
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3 showdown streams oh my

knotty mirage
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Just wondering will word championship use reg H format or does it gonna use double restricted format ?

chrome knot
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@craggy dagger LOOOL in his headdd

spiral ridge
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People cooking ig

chrome knot
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@craggy dagger our mu spread is so unbelievably bad

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but its funny af when it works

foggy lodge
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Probably double restricted

balmy glen
chrome knot
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well its 50/50 i could superpower there and get the same result

foggy lodge
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I think they are just making time to make 2025 worlds double restricted

chrome knot
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i was more worried abt knowing ill always live if i follow me

foggy lodge
chrome knot
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@craggy dagger i think we need like a fast mon lmfao

warped mason
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Time for more bloodmoon shenanigans

solid frigate
molten oasis
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I think imma try balance Prima, snow don’t work well with this and it’s just kind of a gimmick lol

next stump
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small snapshot of worlds race I saw on twitter, not fully updated since they’re only updating the standings of locals that have confirmed results

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so I think first place should be Luke Bowar with like 195CP

molten oasis
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I think I want a dragon most likely

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Mm maybe I go CA Harc

chrome knot
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we are outpaced & i think peli is kinda eh

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we dont have alot of staying power

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that porygon likes to have in its partners

dull pivot
round turret
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Is bloodmoon ursaluna still one of the best trick room attackers?

bold geode
solid frigate
round turret
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Just had to make sure, thank you

foggy lodge
torn parrot
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lol im abusin early ladder with ribombeeeeeee

dapper crag
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Move: Rage Fist

Power is equal to 50+(X*50), where X is the total number of times the user has been hit by a damaging attack during the battle, even if the user did not lose HP from the attack. X cannot be greater than 6 and does not reset upon switching out or fainting. Each hit of a multi-hit attack is counted, but confusion damage is not counted.

Type

Ghost

Category

Physical

Power

50

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Punch

Boosted by Iron Fist.

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Ability: Friend Guard

This Pokemon's allies receive 3/4 damage from other Pokemon's attacks.

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Ability: Friend Guard

This Pokemon's allies receive 3/4 damage from other Pokemon's attacks.

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- [Water/Fairy]
Immune

Dragon

Resists (0.5x)

Bug, Dark, Fighting, Fire, Ice, Water

Neutral damage

Fairy, Flying, Ghost, Ground, Normal, Psychic, Rock, Steel, Stellar

Weak (2x)

Electric, Grass, Poison

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Water, Fairy
Hits for 1x

Bug, Electric, Fairy, Flying, Ghost, Grass, Ice, Normal, Poison, Psychic, Steel, Stellar, Water

Hits for 2x

Dark, Dragon, Fighting, Fire, Ground, Rock

zinc totem
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i wonder if weezing is strong in reg H Hmmm

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Weezing @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Neutralizing Gas
Level: 50
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 252 HP / 236 SpD / 20 Spe
Calm Nature

  • Protect
  • Taunt
  • Will-O-Wisp
  • Sludge Bomb
cyan smelt
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I'm wondering about mandibuzz and corviknight

zinc totem
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wezing kinda seems prety strong beacuse neutralizing gas lets me control when abilities will be activated and seems like maushold friend guard with annihilape kinda denied too

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tho tera fire anni probably will be problem beacuse will-o-wisp wont have any effect

modest lagoon
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Roar Of Time on Infernape? Need to know how useful it is

zinc totem
modest lagoon
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I turned a monferno into dialga, then it turned into Infernape with roar of time

zinc totem
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well this is competitive channel not glitch channel

modest lagoon
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no need to get serious sir

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I was only joking around

rustic mountain
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just got top 100ish again but w/ kommo this time pepemostacho

molten oasis
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wow, congrats

rustic mountain
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i mean its early ladder nothing crazy lol

molten oasis
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thats true yea

rustic mountain
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jus nice doing it w/ 2 different kind of teams

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format is pretty fun

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gna not try and play it too much so i dont get jaded before it even comes out

molten oasis
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im going to explore hydra/dengo/prima

zinc totem
rustic mountain
molten oasis
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i think hydreigon has some kind of merrit

rustic mountain
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yea

molten oasis
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in the format

zinc totem
molten oasis
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could be something for archa tbh

rustic mountain
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i think mostly all the psuedo legends will have a place. some more then others

molten oasis
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archaludon cough

zinc totem
rustic mountain
zinc totem
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Goodra-Hisui @ Leftovers
Ability: Shell Armor
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 132 Def / 124 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Body Press
  • Acid Armor
  • Protect
  • Life Dew

Hmmm

rustic mountain
molten oasis
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i might make dengo scarf tera steel tbh lol

zinc totem
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bulk volcarona going to be also something people might use more

molten oasis
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dengo has room to be a choice guy

rustic mountain
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tho id say those 2 could def be changed. the other 4 are very good

bold geode
warped mason
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This shall be my team of choice

timber falcon
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why azumarill though

warped mason
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Completes a fairy dragon steel, and fire water grass core.

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And choice banded azu hits like a truck

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And has really good bulk

cyan smelt
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You probably don't want to be lowering your attack with choice band

warped mason
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Wdym

cyan smelt
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Superpower lowers attack

warped mason
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I threw that on there for random coverage. Still iffy on the 4th slot.

molten oasis
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prima could be better over azu

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you have no special attackers

timber falcon
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also incin nerfs

warped mason
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Primarina could be good yeah

molten oasis
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idt thats a great option but ok

warped mason
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Draco still hits like a truck

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Prefer that over getting intimidated myself

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 373: Salamence
Types

Dragon/Flying

Abilities

Intimidate, Moxie (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

95/135/80/110/80/100

Total

600

Other Formes

Salamence-Mega

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Salamence's moveset:
Physical Moves

Aerial Ace, Aqua Tail, Bite, Body Slam, Breaking Swipe, Brick Break, Brutal Swing, Bulldoze, Crunch, Cut, Double-Edge, Dragon Claw, Dragon Rush, Dragon Tail, Dual Wingbeat, Earthquake, Facade, Fire Fang, Fly, Frustration, Fury Cutter, Giga Impact, Headbutt, Iron Head, Iron Tail, Natural Gift, Outrage, Psychic Fangs, Rage, Return, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Tomb, Rollout, Secret Power, Shadow Claw, Steel Wing, Stone Edge, Strength, Take Down, Temper Flare, Thrash, Thunder Fang, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Air Cutter, Air Slash, Draco Meteor, Dragon Breath, Dragon Pulse, Dragon Rage, Ember, Fire Blast, Fire Spin, Flamethrower, Heat Wave, Hidden Power, Hurricane, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Incinerate, Mud-Slap, Ominous Wind, Round, Snore, Swift, Tera Blast, Twister

Status Moves

Attract, Captivate, Confide, Defense Curl, Defog, Double Team, Dragon Cheer, Dragon Dance, Endure, Focus Energy, Helping Hand, Hone Claws, Iron Defense, Laser Focus, Leer, Mimic, Protect, Rain Dance, Refresh, Rest, Roar, Roost, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Tailwind, Toxic, Wish

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Salamence.

timber falcon
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special salamance is fine

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flamethrover is ok i guess

warped mason
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I don't want to miss fire blast or hydro

timber falcon
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but as the tw setter, assuming its important, idk about having no way of getting round fo double

warped mason
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?

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What's the standard set for primarina?

molten oasis
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thres no standard rn

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but i think calm mind is good

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throat spray as well

warped mason
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Does primarina have the bulk for calm mind?

rustic mountain
timber falcon
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yes

timber falcon
dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 730: Primarina
Types

Water/Fairy

Abilities

Torrent, Liquid Voice (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/74/74/126/116/60

Total

530

bold geode
warped mason
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I guess with alot of intimidators calm mind could work

bold geode
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Though it probably fine

molten oasis
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ev its defense

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you do need intimidate

rustic mountain
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1 mode will b better depending on the mu

bold geode
#

Yeah it be fine

warped mason
bold geode
#

Hopefully it also works as swap around during Palafin mode

rustic mountain
#

kommo-o?

bold geode
#

Yeah

dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 784: Kommo-o
Types

Dragon/Fighting

Abilities

Bulletproof, Soundproof, Overcoat (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

75/110/125/100/105/85

Total

600

Other Formes

Kommo-o-Totem

bold geode
#

Oh it pretty tanky

rustic mountain
#

its really easy as a swap in sometimes

#

especially vs the rilla/incin/palafins

#

really the most annoying stuff is whims encore stuff

bold geode
#

Farigiraf lol

molten oasis
#

the hate for incin is returning

rustic mountain
#

i aint running giraffe shrug

bold geode
#

Oh lol

#

I'm running Psychic Noise giraffe so I at least have SOMETHING for MausApe

rustic mountain
molten oasis
#

parting shot is ticking me off

rustic mountain
bold geode
#

Lmao

warped mason
#

Is there a good defense ev for primarina?

#

A specific calc

molten oasis
#

check other things, other notable physical attackers

#

maybe wood hammer without terrain

warped mason
#

Can u live grassy glide in any spread?

molten oasis
#

you need defense investment

warped mason
#

I guess

molten oasis
#

someone tried to smeargle muk me lol

warped mason
#

Updated

molten oasis
#

you can probably go modest

warped mason
#

Maybe with the double intimidaters

#

I want to be able to swap in primarina into things tho, so i think I'd prefer the added bulk.

warped mason
#

Part of the reason why i liked azu cause it was great at doing that.

abstract ether
#

So random question for the competitive types here. Does Protect prevent a friendly pollen puff heal?

warped mason
#

Even with full offense investment

molten oasis
#

then run azu

warped mason
#

Yea i think I'll go back

timber falcon
#

i know the team looks iffy

bold geode
#

Actually Bax better than Kommo-O here because like
It's something I can bring into games with Goldie mode and Palafin mode tbh

rustic mountain
molten oasis
#

im playing so bad

rustic mountain
#

that was me my first handful of games switching to this format

molten oasis
#

huge crit lol

#

harc feels good

#

i managed to win cuz the ape was slower than my rilla

#

and wood hammer chunked it

rustic mountain
molten oasis
#

no i was, that was my game i was saying for lol

rustic mountain
#

ohhh

timber falcon
#

any idea for last slot?

#

slots*

rustic mountain
#

i mean arm w/o indeedee? and why rilla

#

team seems really clunky as is

#

id lean into tr mode, get indeedee on, rilla off have it as gambit scarf ape and add like torkoal and bm ursa

molten oasis
#

yea

rustic mountain
#

if u want a hoodra team id say get ape and arm outta there and add like screens grimm or something

bold geode
#

I'm sticking Bax yeah

rustic mountain
#

ur bax

molten oasis
#

bax is cool

rustic mountain
#

r u saying u think monke is cool?

molten oasis
#

no

rustic mountain
#

cause by transitive property .......

molten oasis
#

i think bax the mon is cool

nocturne holly
molten oasis
#

im gonna lose to ttar flinches

rustic mountain
#

haha im just joking cause i said monke was bax and u then said it was cool

molten oasis
#

nvm he threw so hard lmao

#

its ddance ttar

molten oasis
#

so no av and it gets chunked by dengo

rustic mountain
#

its really early format id say just go for it

#

harcs been good for me. diff style team im playing it on but still

bold geode
#

Man the fact +2 Shadow Ball didn't get Arch

molten oasis
#

wow, 1400's already damn

rustic mountain
#

it kinda dunks on incin/rilla

nocturne holly
#

Harc is goated

molten oasis
#

i like CA for that

nocturne holly
rustic mountain
#

sitrus

molten oasis
#

band also works but i think protecting for FO is nice

rustic mountain
molten oasis
#

the top of ladder

rustic mountain
#

yea

nocturne holly
#

Yea I’m either running CA or band

molten oasis
#

i've played 10 games today lol

rustic mountain
#

haha

nocturne holly
#

does harc run max max?

molten oasis
#

im also playing with 5 members

foggy lodge
#

Probably

rustic mountain
molten oasis
#

im running some bulk

rustic mountain
#

works good for the team im using

rustic mountain
molten oasis
#

if band i think max max is fine

rustic mountain
#

for sitrus hell no. band yea probably

bold geode
#

Hmmm
What speed stat should Goldie be hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

rustic mountain
#

i went for basically all bulk for mine

#

hit like 108 speed or 109 i forget

bold geode
#

Maybe I just outspeed Peli

nocturne holly
rustic mountain
#

im talking for gholdengo atm

nocturne holly
#

Wbt for harc

timber falcon
#

i think dragapult has some nice potential

rustic mountain
#

harc i was using howl but im boutta switch to wisp for the dozo mu

molten oasis
#

im staring at one

bold geode
#

Nah though I can do 114 or whatever

timber falcon
rustic mountain
#

otherwise jus standard protect/blitz/rock slide

foggy lodge
rustic mountain
#

i think every psuedo legend has a place. not sure where dpult ranks among them but it isnt bad

foggy lodge
#

Fastest mon in the whole format lol

zinc totem
molten oasis
#

ugh i got cooked again

#

i need speed control lol

nocturne holly
#

Monke what bax set are you running

timber falcon
rustic mountain
timber falcon
#

oh yeah and i gotta ask, people here seem to be mentioning bax a lot

#

is there an interesting set about it?

nocturne holly
#

Wait sd or swords dance bax

foggy lodge
#

I like clear amulet dragon dance

molten oasis
#

bax just seems good

polar nest
rustic mountain
#

either no set up shard/glaive/crash/protect or sd over shard

foggy lodge
#

Worst thing is having to rely on icicle crash but meh

bold geode
#

Y'know what
109 would probably be common
Why not 110 Goldie just to creep?

zinc totem
timber falcon
rustic mountain
bold geode
#

👍

rustic mountain
#

atleast as of now in the games i played w/ that team

molten oasis
#

i have

bold geode
#

Yeah but considering I was 124 speed or some shit like that

molten oasis
#

are the people playing ttar just all burning down the kitchen

bold geode
#

Maybe

rustic mountain
#

wdym?

#

ttar is really good rn

timber falcon
molten oasis
#

i found a specs ttar

timber falcon
#

lmao

rustic mountain
#

ok well

#

sometimes ppl go a bit far

molten oasis
#

im finding the people NOT cooking with it

rustic mountain
#

i think tofu ran mixed ttar tho and had some success w/ it

nocturne holly
#

Dragon dance or sd bax leaning towards dd

molten oasis
#

mixed is not specs lol

dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 248: Tyranitar
Types

Rock/Dark

Abilities

Sand Stream, Unnerve (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/134/110/95/100/61

Total

600

Other Formes

Tyranitar-Mega

rustic mountain
molten oasis
#

oh you're playing ttar?

zinc totem
#

@rustic mountain i did also consider ninetales instead of tork but ninetales is kinda trash

rustic mountain
#

ye

molten oasis
#

cool

rustic mountain
#

on the kommo-o team

molten oasis
#

ohh, very nice

#

ngl hydreigon has felt kinda mid

rustic mountain
#

its basically esms sac winning team but maus and sylveon over flutter and bundle

molten oasis
#

y not prima?

foggy lodge
rustic mountain
molten oasis
zinc totem
rustic mountain
#

yea torkoal is just a better sun setter unfortunately

molten oasis
#

i think prima has more value over sylv, if you dont have a water type already

foggy lodge
zinc totem
#

torkoal just is better sun setter

rustic mountain
foggy lodge
#

Kommo -O gholdengo is pretty good

molten oasis
foggy lodge
#

Fighting/steel/ghost covers almost everything

rustic mountain
#

yea prim is pretty common atm id say

molten oasis
#

here

#

i need a 6th as well

timber falcon
#

how would one, counter a tr team

molten oasis
#

but im rockin that rn

molten oasis
timber falcon
#

amoongus.

molten oasis
#

not necesarilly

#

dark types and amoonguss probably help

timber falcon
#

but it helps my current plan

#

my star is banded dragapult rn

molten oasis
#

i share a paste and everyone dips

timber falcon
#

scarfed dengo?

foggy lodge
#

i really like tailroom but idkkk

molten oasis
foggy lodge
#

I feel like i lack of offense

timber falcon
foggy lodge
#

Or y know i just realised

#

Harc over Inci

molten oasis
#

i dont have room for another set up mon rn

#

so my dengo is not running NP rn

timber falcon
#

palafin balance, nice

molten oasis
#

screens, mm

solid frigate
#

i should just ignore the guy that said Mewtwo is the 2nd Strongest Pokemon-

molten oasis
#

wow the kommo-o and prim

timber falcon
#

would torkoal liligant be a problem to account for

molten oasis
#

didn't tera prim there wtf

#

ig i can try it out

#

but idk how im dealing with archa rain

foggy lodge
molten oasis
#

ah bloodmoon, im chillin here

#

we set up CM on prim and sweep

foggy lodge
#

Hard TR seems strong also

#

Araquanid is pretty good

torn parrot
#

is there a guy with the showdown usernmae bwahacough in this server

molten oasis
#

why?

#

stellar exca was interesting

little plank
#

Trying dozo and it isn't going well lol every single team seems to be running haze

#

For good reason of course

molten oasis
#

yuh

#

havent fought me yet (i have nothing for dozo rn)

#

well i kinda do actually

#

ah psyspam, i did not miss you

little plank
#

Thinking I may try a setup excadril tyranitar team

molten oasis
#

this guy's cookin damn

nocturne holly
#

@rustic mountain What speed did harc reach

#

Or what did you try and outspeed

molten oasis
#

ok i lied i like hydra lol

#

hydra clutched up a fight against a normal ursa

rustic mountain
molten oasis
#

lived on 2 hp lol

rustic mountain
#

@nocturne holly i put 196 innit, so it hits 135 speed

#

adamant not jolly

molten oasis
#

thats a lot

#

what's it for?

rustic mountain
#

like i said it was random, i jus wanted it to outspeed most things wen i need it to

molten oasis
#

ah

#

i hit 125 its felt fine

rustic mountain
#

figured if i needed to adjust i could

molten oasis
#

although i might increase it for dengo

#

dengo's kinda kicking my ass rn lol

rustic mountain
#

dengo can be tough

molten oasis
#

yea fs

rustic mountain
#

playing as it and vs it. its gna b really good

molten oasis
#

im not even playing what everyone else is

rustic mountain
#

i think rn specs or lefties is the call

molten oasis
#

im just running scarf dengo lol

bold geode
#

I stg I always do shit on my main KekHands

molten oasis
#

i have no speed control

gentle cragBOT
molten oasis
#

like

nocturne holly
molten oasis
#

idk if i want tw or tr or twave or icy wind

nocturne holly
#

don’t you have hydra?

zinc totem
molten oasis
rustic mountain
#

id say having atleast 1 is pretty good but the kommo team ive been running has nothing

molten oasis
#

idt i have room for tw

rustic mountain
#

i think it jus depends

molten oasis
#

well, i dont have redirect for prima either

#

i think i go redirect screens or speed control

cyan smelt
#

I really want to try hydrapple

molten oasis
#

nothing does all lol

molten oasis
rustic mountain
molten oasis
#

oh yk what, go fari normal ursa and support hydra

molten oasis
#

apply yawn pressure with it

nocturne holly
molten oasis
#

and heal ursa with pollen puff

rustic mountain
molten oasis
rustic mountain
#

u still want it to do damage

nocturne holly
#

Yea

molten oasis
#

so, do we think screens redirect or speed control with this?

zinc totem
rustic mountain
#

i mean u dont have to but i think set up ape is kinda awkward there. if anything u can add maus

#

keep rilla add maus and jus try that

zinc totem
#

otherwise i would probs swap torkoal away

#

beacuse it really gains nothing KEKWDISCO

rustic mountain
#

houndoom? i mean im gna go w/ no but if u wanna try it

nocturne holly
nocturne holly
rustic mountain
#

idt houndoom is good but u never know, this would b the format to try it

nocturne holly
#

Over ep

molten oasis
#

no and i want it to be an attacker

molten oasis
#

a consistent mu that is

nocturne holly
#

Uh if that was my team I would go prob grim screens

polar nest
nocturne holly
#

But that’s me

polar nest
#

but who would i replace

nocturne holly
polar nest
#

o

solid frigate
#

i lost hope on Pokémon Fans,Especially ones that only watch Anime-

zinc totem
#

also doom with lava plume torkoal would boost it heatwave as little shenanigans LUL

solid frigate
nocturne holly
dense latch
#

this is the first non-restricted format i play since series 9 in swsh lmao

timber falcon
#

gotta expect this when using smeargle ig lmaoPikaLmao

polar nest
#

0atk rila?

dense latch
polar nest
#

ah

dense latch
#

idk why it defaulted to that

polar nest
#

uhh im dumb so i cant really

solid frigate
#

i think like thats the reason why Learning Comp durinf Restricted Format is not very good for your Future days

zinc totem
timber falcon
polar nest
#

but this might be easier for me

dense latch
polar nest
#

and i still have alot to learn

molten oasis
polar nest
#

same

solid frigate
timber falcon
zinc totem
#

oh i forgot

molten oasis
#

protect the king bascially

rustic mountain
cyan smelt
#

Wonder if we're gonna see any quaquaval or if palafin is just better

molten oasis
#

At that point I’d rather run Tauros lol

bold geode
#

Literally a BO3 I should've won
Nope lmao

molten oasis
#

I’ll be palafin and bascu tbh

#

For physical water guys

bold geode
#

I'm not touching my main again lmao

zinc totem
bold geode
#

It's literally now all horrible compared to what I usually do

solid frigate
karmic temple
karmic temple
solid frigate
bold geode
#

Anyways
I see mostly BM Ursa and some Steel types
@rustic mountain What you say

karmic temple
#

Quaquaval is for a physical oricorio

bold geode
solid frigate
karmic temple
bold geode
#

Pog

karmic temple
#

Aka still need to build it

solid frigate
karmic temple
#

Ya will do just fine tuning a couple things

bold geode
#

Basically hmmm
So I'm thinking 2 options actually
Either instead of Bax we go Kommo-O or we go like
Regular Ursaluna

solid frigate
bold geode
#

I mean Fake Out Cycling + TR + Guts Ursaluna just damn

solid frigate
bold geode
#

Maybe idk

solid frigate
bold geode
#

So far what I be seeing at least

rustic mountain
#

yea bm is def common

#

steel types would be gholdengo who else

foggy lodge
#

Hoodra?

solid frigate
rustic mountain
#

i havent seen hoodra much yet but that reminds me archaludon has been common

solid frigate
timber falcon
#

anyone available for a bo3?

molten oasis
#

I think my plan is trick with dengo and then EP it with hydei

timber falcon
molten oasis
#

Which is why I’m scarfed

rustic mountain
# molten oasis How do you handle it?

w/ kommo? usually some form of maushold to let kommo get an id up then jus go from there. they usually get baited to draco and then i just tera and ko them

molten oasis
#

Cool

rustic mountain
#

its beens good so far ngl

rustic mountain
#

i thought u were going bax?

bold geode
#

I'm weirdly thinking either Kommo-O or Reg Ursa

bold geode
nocturne holly
#

On that but ursas look solid

dapper crag
#
Move: Follow Me

Until the end of the turn, all single-target attacks from the opposing side are redirected to the user. Such attacks are redirected to the user before they can be reflected by Magic Coat or the Magic Bounce Ability, or drawn in by the Lightning Rod or Storm Drain Abilities. Fails if it is not a Double Battle or Battle Royal. This effect is ignored while the user is under the effect of Sky Drop.

Type

Normal

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

PP (max)

20 (32)

Priority

2

Move Flags

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

bold geode
#

Bax ain't doing shit either besides just a swap in

dapper crag
#
Move: After You

The target makes its move immediately after the user this turn, no matter the priority of its selected move. Fails if the target would have moved next anyway, or if the target already moved this turn.

Type

Normal

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Authentic

Bypasses substitute.

Contact

Does not make contact.

rustic mountain
nocturne holly
#

Why isn’t there a way to ignore follow me

rustic mountain
#

stalwart

bold geode
rustic mountain
#

sd?

nocturne holly
rustic mountain
#

early swsh meta on duraludon

nocturne holly
#

ok but lemme prove my point

#

rn there’s nothing that counters follow me

foggy lodge
#

That's the drawback

dapper crag
#
Ursaluna's moveset:
Physical Moves

Aerial Ace, Avalanche, Body Press, Body Slam, Brick Break, Bulldoze, Chip Away, Close Combat, Counter, Covet, Cross Chop, Crunch, Cut, Dig, Double-Edge, Drain Punch, Dynamic Punch, Earthquake, Facade, Feint Attack, Fire Punch, Fling, Focus Punch, Frustration, Fury Cutter, Fury Swipes, Giga Impact, Gunk Shot, Hammer Arm, Hard Press, Headbutt, Headlong Rush, Heavy Slam, High Horsepower, Ice Punch, Last Resort, Lick, Low Kick, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metal Claw, Natural Gift, Night Slash, Payback, Play Rough, Power-Up Punch, Retaliate, Return, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Tomb, Rollout, Scratch, Secret Power, Seed Bomb, Seismic Toss, Shadow Claw, Slash, Smack Down, Stomping Tantrum, Stone Edge, Strength, Supercell Slam, Superpower, Take Down, Thief, Thrash, Throat Chop, Thunder Punch, Trailblaze

Special Moves

Earth Power, Focus Blast, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Mud-Slap, Round, Snore, Swift, Tera Blast, Uproar, Zap Cannon

Status Moves

Attract, Baby-Doll Eyes, Belly Drum, Bulk Up, Captivate, Charm, Confide, Curse, Defense Curl, Double Team, Endure, Fake Tears, Focus Energy, Helping Hand, Hone Claws, Laser Focus, Leer, Metronome, Mimic, Play Nice, Protect, Rain Dance, Refresh, Rest, Roar, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Sweet Scent, Swords Dance, Taunt, Torment, Toxic, Work Up, Yawn

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Ursaluna.

nocturne holly
#

Hear me out
Safety goggles ignores follow me

solid frigate
#

im against the idea

foggy lodge
#

Yeah follow me is fine

#

Few pokemon have it

#

The best follow me user is Clefairy

bold geode
solid frigate
timber falcon
foggy lodge
#

Yeah but not broken

solid frigate
#

but since Ogerpon does not exists in Reg H then Clefairy

foggy lodge
#

It's not like a tank pokemon having it

solid frigate
#

fair

dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 876: Indeedee-F
Types

Psychic/Normal

Abilities

Own Tempo, Synchronize, Psychic Surge (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

70/55/65/95/105/85

Total

475

Base Species

Indeedee

solid frigate
#

Tho i kinda starting to miss Ogerpon a bit

nocturne holly
nocturne holly
foggy lodge
#

But it's a Clefairy

dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 35: Clefairy
Type

Fairy

Abilities

Cute Charm, Magic Guard, Friend Guard (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

70/45/48/60/65/35

Total

323

nocturne holly
#

shit is not fun

solid frigate
#

That Pachirisu surviving a Draco Meteor:I fear no men

dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 417: Pachirisu
Type

Electric

Abilities

Run Away, Pickup, Volt Absorb (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

60/45/70/45/90/95

Total

405

timber falcon
#

clefairy after being immune to it:

rustic mountain
#

9-0 so far since the prim change

solid frigate
#

Primarina goes hard

timber falcon
#

i sitll dont know which mon to star GengarSad

#

finding this format pretty confusing

#

i tried some teams ive done in the past, but eithout the paradoxes, or legendaries, it just dont click

#

ima just run swampert

solid frigate
#

in low power level formats

bold geode
#

Tree I'm thinking about Annihilape as 6th now lmao
I can't decide

timber falcon
#

are all of you running prim???

bold geode
#

No not rn lol

#

Will probably do so later? Idk

solid frigate
rustic mountain
#

theory crafting can be infinite if u let it

timber falcon
bold geode
solid frigate
bold geode
#

Hell I'll probably try Kommo-O

timber falcon
bold geode
#

Although BM Ursa is another option

rustic mountain
#

yea try it, and if it doesnt work then swap to bm, u said u have giraffe for that mu

bold geode
#

Like
Body Press/Shadow Claw/ID/Protect

timber falcon
#

also surprisingly enough, i havent seen a grain of psyspam

nocturne holly
#

But I don’t wanna set up with her

foggy lodge
zinc totem
#

So in terms of annoying cores we have:

Indeedee psyspam
Beat up+annihilape
Smeargle muk
Beat up+lucario
Dondozo tatsugiri

nocturne holly
#

What other water types are there

bold geode
foggy lodge
#

I don't know where to start

rustic mountain
timber falcon
fallen garden
#

Oh, spore is probably coming back in a big way in Reg H, huh

fallen garden
#

I've ignored it for a while

nocturne holly
rustic mountain
#

whose asking treeckoidkboutthat

timber falcon
#

me arkeknine

rustic mountain
#

kit treeckoidkboutthat

rustic mountain
undone sage
#

Tree wuffelsidkaboutthat

solid frigate
timber falcon
solid frigate
#

Beat up Lucario/Terrakion is fine

timber falcon
undone sage
#

Treeandberries

solid frigate
#

sure my team isnt weak against it but against Rock Slide, it helps a lot

rustic mountain
undone sage
rustic mountain
#

gta b an og to know about that

undone sage
#

I couldn't find a pic

rustic mountain
#

damn

#

love me some reg h

undone sage
#

Time to watch tree play 👁️

modern harbor
#

when's the next season?

rustic mountain
#

sept 1st to jan

chrome knot
#

today

modern harbor
#

oop

chrome knot
#

o next regulation

modern harbor
#

no

chrome knot
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today then

modern harbor
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next ranked season

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yayyyyyy

rustic mountain
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yea looks like i misunderstood

chrome knot
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today like it already began

nocturne holly
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What are the FO users other than rilla and incin

rustic mountain
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rilla and incin

chrome knot
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Fomantis

modern harbor
solid frigate
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Mienshao

modern harbor
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iron hands

nocturne holly
undone sage
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Shiny Hisuian Arcanine Tree 👁️

solid frigate
nocturne holly
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Low key thinking about hit

modern harbor
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oh in new reg

nocturne holly
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mhm nah mienshao

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Top gives me intim

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Which is really useful

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And feint

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Uh if I go top prob do choice harc

chrome knot
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@modern harbor lurantis

modern harbor
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i like lurantis

chrome knot
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:D

rustic mountain
rustic mountain
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shiny everything now that legends arent allowed

foggy lodge
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Is there another harc set that is not choice band

molten oasis
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Moxie thinks Pala isn’t fully back

rustic mountain
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can actually use stuff that isnt shiny locked

molten oasis
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Because of rillaboom

foggy lodge
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I think there was an AV one but i always saw choice band xd

undone sage
molten oasis
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I’m playing clear amulet

modern harbor
chrome knot
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yes

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always.

bold geode
molten oasis
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Ok

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And what palafin eats wood hammer

bold geode
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If Palafin don't outspeed Rilla naturally there's a fuckin problem

molten oasis
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Monke

rustic mountain
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2nd highest gxe in the top 30, someone has 79% haha

molten oasis
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Rilla will go and wood hammer the palafin even if it underspends