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#competitive_discussion
bold geode
molten oasis
wtf do you mean no
bold geode
Bolt (AV)/Rilla/Ursh/Torn/Zac/Hitmontop
molten oasis
that tells me so much
bold geode
Bitch did I not show you the version with Chi Yu?
molten oasis
No
bold geode
Yes I did
bold geode
You're not important
solid frigate
PFFT
molten oasis
True
bold geode
bold geode
I'm not playing good tonight
molten oasis
You’re using double weather no shit lol
foggy lodge
https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-lapras-cute-gif-13228944877062381018
Choice scarf Lapras les goo
solid frigate
Choice scarf Lapras les goo
the irl Scarf Lapras is real
solid frigate
f
mighty stump
Ah my cookies wiped
If you save SD to your phone home screen rather than using the browser it shouldnt wipe
mighty stump
Bolt (AV)/Rilla/Ursh/Torn/Zac/Hitmontop
This sounds like a mess ngl
bold geode
This sounds like a mess ngl
It is 
It's just something thrown together for the fuck of it
Although it's done better than I thought it would 
molten oasis
If you save SD to your phone home screen rather than using the browser it should...
Ok noted
Ty
foggy lodge
244 SpA Soul Dew Latios Luster Purge vs. 244 HP / 84 SpD Amoonguss: 210-248 (95.4 - 112.7%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
idk how to build Latios lol
Modest would pick up the ko but then it's slower and i don't know if the speed control with icy wind is still worth it
mighty stump
Try the trading channels. No trades here.
random hollow
Sorry!
balmy glen
modern harbor
I'm rly lost on what to do about follow me
mighty stump
Spread, Taunt, Kill it
mighty stump
Yeah
Only other is to go for FO
Or somwthing with ESpeed that outspeeds the Follow Me user
modern harbor
fake out has more priority than follow me?
ALSO WTF LOL I ACCIDENTALLY LEFT A MIRROR HERB ON MY RILLABOOM FOR GETTING EGG MOVE AND IT COPIED A BELLY DRUM BOOST FROM AN IRON HANDS AND MADE ME WIN EASILY
violet kindle
just got smoked by a weakness policy torkoal, yaaay
Lol
daring nexus
uhh whats a good ev spread for scizor
solid frigate
https://pokepast.es/91a26d16d11e3e59
yeah it works
it can be used in both weathers as Hearthflame pon is a nuke in Sun
modern harbor
last time i tried farigiraf i didnt like, should i add some SpA and a better damaging move?
modern harbor
it can be used in both weathers as Hearthflame pon is a nuke in Sun
should i try to find a sun setter?
solid frigate
should i try to find a sun setter?
nah,Use Opponent's Sun Setter as your advantage
solid frigate
your team is fine and also Fari is perfectly fine since its not meant to be Offensive in this format
modern harbor
i saw offensive fari do ok on wolfe's team
throat spray is dead ?
i kind if brought it as an anti trick room but idk
solid frigate
i think for a Caly S Team it can work,But your team has Firepon,Rillaboom,Urshifu and Zamazenta are all Offensive
modern harbor
yeah, i figured i can reverse tr turn 1 against caly ice, but also it might just not click tr knowing i will
i was struggling today against redirect trick room caly ice
solid frigate
unless the TR Setter is Fari or Indeedee
Torn can be fine in Stopping TR due to Taunt,but it depends on the board state and you can lead something to let opponent's Calyrex Ice rethink of his life
anyways time to think on what team should i build
modern harbor
unless the TR Setter is Fari or Indeedee
Torn can be fine in Stopping TR due to...
but with redirect it will still always get it off bc i will just taunt into follow me first turn and it will get tr
i guess heat wave chi yu is rly meant for that isnt it ...
solid frigate
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2164689317 🫠
Landorus update?
molten oasis
wha?
molten oasis
theres more changes than that
solid frigate
yeah the urshifu as well ik
molten oasis
theres more than that as well
solid frigate
wait is bolt is in the OG team
molten oasis
no
solid frigate
you replaced 3 Pokemon but did you change the sets on others
modern harbor
so wait do i bring back heat wave chi yu for that redirect
molten oasis
yes
solid frigate
so wait do i bring back heat wave chi yu for that redirect
depends
molten oasis
i love fighting HO csr
modern harbor
ice
molten oasis
stupid pokemon
solid frigate
stupid pokemon
kek
molten oasis
thats the one mu i need tw for
solid frigate
thats the one mu i need tw for
i forgot caly shadow is 15 Points faster than Miraidon sometimes
Like why is a Electric Tron Bike slower than Shadow Rider
solid frigate
i understand the scarf lando hype now lol
JOIN THE CLUB
but fr,It realy Pressures Faster Restricteds Like Zacian and Caly Shadow and also can OHKO Miraidon as well with Earth Power,So i would say its a nice thing to use if you are struggling against Faster Restricteds
and its Neutral against Rillaboom unlike Bloodmoon who is still weak against It
solid frigate
yep
molten oasis
i dont like needing tw but whatever
idk where its going either, or what mon im using
mighty stump
👁️
solid frigate
wait how much is scarf lando usage in Reg G B03
mighty stump
I see it more than LO
molten oasis
nice switch into my kyurem koraidon LOL
solid frigate
nice switch into my kyurem koraidon LOL
moment
molten oasis
weather ball is also kinda hilarious
so far, in bo1 cuz im just feeling it out, im peaking like 1450, which isnt great
i think i need tw
solid frigate
no thoughts,head empty
S N O W B A L L
mighty stump
If you don’t want to use TW then you have to figure out your approach and commit yo that
molten oasis
i also like most of the members on the team, idk
molten oasis
If you don’t want to use TW then you have to figure out your approach and commit...
CSR is also proving annoying
mighty stump
Cause you either need to be faster and hit hard, or alternatively be able to take a hit and damage trade better
molten oasis
the tera ghost variants are the annoying ones tbh
solid frigate
yeah tera ghost caly is more common for me as well
molten oasis
outspeed's and ohkos my entire team, can typically take out shifu quickly with, shifu
and torn/whims
molten oasis
Cause you either need to be faster and hit hard, or alternatively be able to tak...
i dont do 1 so 2 it is
av's open, although admittedly i like life orb
mighty stump
Utilise your items and teras to patch MUs as you see fit
If you don’t have a use for a certain Tera then a random Normal Tera can be useful for CSR for example
molten oasis
uhm, normal ninetales maybe
mighty stump
Not saying it’s a good band-aid but in an otherwise complete team that grants you the resource to use it should be utilised
molten oasis
nah ninetales doesnt do shit to CSR lol
solid frigate
kek
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/bb6669a2d2ac5b31 i need to fix the name, i have this rn
yk, the wacky shit lol
solid frigate
The Team name lmao
mighty stump
Normal Tera Lando or sth
solid frigate
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
mighty stump
Cause Steel is mainly for Miraidon
molten oasis
yea
mighty stump
Just be aware now your Lando is liable to getting blown up by DGleam/DPulse or Draco
solid frigate
i used Steel back in Early Reg G and its not bad,tho i can see why cuz i did switch back into Tera Poison
molten oasis
idk if i like blizzard on a9 atm
i just tend to click HH and veil and it dies
veil first obv
mighty stump
Just to point out that Icy Wind is gonna be pretty useless against CSR due to CoCl and Korai for ClearAm
molten oasis
well, yea
mighty stump
If it dies then its fine lol
molten oasis
i'll just keep blizzard for now
mighty stump
Its a free switch from an otherwise passive asf slot
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
molten oasis
k i'll try that out
molten oasis
thats desperate
solid frigate
molten oasis
ig its an out tbf
solid frigate
the funny button
mighty stump
You can call it desperate, I call it a way to put pressure
mighty stump
You set AVeil and just start clicking Sheer Cold
molten oasis
molten oasis
thx torrent
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
molten oasis
could go encore
solid frigate
Oh
mighty stump
You forgot vgc:true
molten oasis
hypnosis is an out potentially
solid frigate
fair point,i forgot lol
mighty stump
could go encore
Charm, Hypnosis, Baby Doll Eyes, Fake Tears
Honestly
Roar as well is valid
molten oasis
fake tears would be funny asf lol
probably not fast enough for it tho
oh yea roar is smth
mighty stump
probably not fast enough for it tho
You just need to be faster than Kyu-W
solid frigate
kinda like how Kyogre and Wo Chien's Speed Interaction but with your AV spread how much does Ninetales need on Speed EVs to outspeed Kyurem
solid frigate
lemme check on your rental
molten oasis
i'll try those out
solid frigate
yeah your A9 is faster
molten oasis
baby doll eyes is kinda interesting although idk how much it be effective
solid frigate
by a lot
solid frigate
baby doll eyes is kinda interesting although idk how much it be effective
ummmm idk
solid frigate
fake tears A9 i did not consider at first when i test Snow Pagos
molten oasis
ok well, i'll play this tomorrow, im gonna do other stuff then sleep
solid frigate
ok gl
molten oasis
thx
solid frigate
and Kyurem Team Formula is still discovering cuz not that much people uses it (Anti Meta Moment)
jade dust
im not running slow a9
Ninetales needs to be fast to set aurora veil before getting knocked out, at least if you’re using light clay
So can’t afford to be slow
molten oasis
ty shrekers
jade dust
109 speed isn’t fast anymore sadly
molten oasis
Don’t lose your mind
imma try not to, this is a hard archetype to build with, i think
mighty stump
I think they're aware lol
jade dust
Nor is 81 SpcA good
mighty stump
imma try not to, this is a hard archetype to build with, i think
It's just Reg G. A lot of it is also matchup roulette
So unless you have an extreme goodstuffs team
(like I do muhehe)
molten oasis
haha
jade dust
What item you use in ninetales?
molten oasis
light clay
jade dust
Tailwind as well?
molten oasis
my mu into mirai korai terapagos, uhm, what else did i play
those 3 i feel like ik what to do
didnt fight a caly ice, lost to CSR, twice
oh kyogre wasn't too bad either
jade dust
I like that snow team you’re using but it looks like it would do poorly into calyice
molten oasis
thats all i fought tho
molten oasis
I like that snow team you’re using but it looks like it would do poorly into cal...
l+ratio+tera fire helping hand fusion flare
kyurem does fine into ice rider
jade dust
Tho veil does help so caly ice has a harder time snowballing
Some breakpoints aren’t ohko anymore
solid frigate
my mu into mirai korai terapagos, uhm, what else did i play
very effective 
molten oasis
i got multi lens for the first time, sick
chrome knot
wouldve been fine if he kept playing tbh
modern harbor
i figured out farigiraf a little !
i just have to play it like a BITCH
i think while i stuck my fari there reversing trick room and stuff my rilla must have switched at least 5 times
mighty stump
Whatever board state you had sounds inefficient lol
jade dust
wouldve been fine if he kept playing tbh
Well he was at a disadvantage cuz I had my caly ice in the back for when swampert fainted, and that helping hand earthquake deals a lot of damage to Kyoger
But he surrendered too soon yes
He could have tried
Wide guard trick room and he quits
next stump
good morning
solid frigate
mornin Dillon
mighty stump
Morning Dillon
timber falcon
https://pokepast.es/b547b7cae7adad4c any ideas for last mon
next stump
pao IMO
next stump
the ability is great with rayquaza, it's basically a dragonite/pao combo
also great with urshifu
issue is you'd probably need something like mystic water or safety goggles on urshifu
timber falcon
:]
solid frigate
never really thought of pao
didn't we suggested that and you said its not a Paonite (Rayquaza Version) Core
timber falcon
yeah, i didnt think about it
solid frigate
fair point
timber falcon
and i probs wont go for it, as i dont like RS and fairy type moves even more with it
solid frigate
i mean you do you
mighty stump
being quirky
solid frigate
quirky and redirection but tbf
Magmar looks better
flame body can make physical attackers weary on chance of burn
mighty stump
Electabuzz overall is the better of the two since you resist Miraidon and you want Vital Spirit anyways
timber falcon
flame body can make physical attackers weary on chance of burn
mirai
mighty stump
Plus not being weak to Urshi RS
solid frigate
fair
timber falcon
also ray likes paralysis to let dragon ascent hit first if needed
and electroweb is nice
solid frigate
cuz i get tunnel vision on Para can benefit TR mode on opposing Side but eh its just me
timber falcon
well, if theyre running tr team theyre gonna be slower anyways, no?
mighty stump
I mean
solid frigate
well tailroom teams i guess but
timber falcon
true
mighty stump
Its not really benefiting TR teams since you just gave them a Para chance
You’re probably not underspeeding them in TR anyways
solid frigate
wait how fast is this Electabuzz
solid frigate
faster than i expected
solid frigate
105 is impressive
but then again
its an Electric Type in Gen 1
i can't remember which Electric Type in Gen 1 is slow
solid frigate
Raichu and Pikachu are considerbly Fast,Zapdos is Zapdos
timber falcon
magnemite?
timber falcon
yeah it slo
solid frigate
I mean as a Pre evo yeah
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
mighty stump
Ngl I just see your team folding to CIR LOL
solid frigate
F
chrome knot
i just have to play it like a BITCH
what (!)
chrome knot
Well he was at a disadvantage cuz I had my caly ice in the back for when swamper...
what is caly ice doing to kyogre again..?
timber falcon
Ngl I just see your team folding to CIR LOL
oh yeh thsi has been an issue
probs need wide guard atp
solid frigate
what is caly ice doing to kyogre again..?
its Tera Dragon
chrome knot
that does NOT help
solid frigate
welp
mighty stump
You know you're an adult cause you're excited over a new vacuum cleaner
chrome knot
pfft
mighty stump
its charging rn i cant wait to vacuum
solid frigate
I'm calling it quits this regulation
honestly same,like i felt tired
mighty stump
I'm calling it quits this regulation
Lol, see you next time
little plank
Honestly I might not be back until gen 10, I really hate tera types.
mighty stump
That bad huh
little plank
I'm a best of 1 player. So not knowing when someone is going yo tera and completely negate my attack is just annoying
mighty stump
Go crazy w the neutrals
mighty stump
3 of your mons are wasting EVs
Very questionable choices in Solosis and Clawitzer
and Swampert is just not great
Do you really need 2 Heal Pulse mons and Pollen Puff
hollow island
ik swampert isnt great but i just want to use him
i didnt originally have pollen puff i just switched a pokemon i wasnt using for him so i havent really changed the heal pulse people
chrome knot
Very questionable choices in Solosis and Clawitzer
but but endeavour sweep!!
molten oasis
Oh we’re still on this
timber falcon
im marinating
molten oasis
In what?
solid frigate
did i just see a Solosis for a second time-
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
long narwhal
How does wide guard work? My enemy kept wide guarding and his other mon atacked me and i couldnt do nothing
solid frigate
How does wide guard work? My enemy kept wide guarding and his other mon atacked ...
wide guard stops Spread Moves like Astral Barrage,Glacial Lance,Water Spout,Precipice Blades
long narwhal
Ohh
glad osprey
Are there legendaries that arent restricted?
Super new to VGC, so I am looking over rental teams and seeing Ogerpon on teams with Kyurem and got a bit confused
solid frigate
basically Box Arts(And DLC2 Legendaries like Calyrex and Terapagos) are Restricteds
mighty stump
Not big boy enough to be restricted
glad osprey
Ahhhh I see
chrome knot
shes girl so 0/2
solid frigate
pfft
mighty stump
shes girl so 0/2
any term can be gender neutral to me 😎
i don’t see gender I hate all of you equally
chrome knot
hmmmm
solid frigate
hollow island
real
mighty stump
Wait I could re-use the Karen quote
chrome knot
not a fan of that one
mighty stump
Truly skilled haters hate everyone equally
hollow island
is there any easy way i can get calyrex ice rider in game if i had already picked spectrier a while go
mighty stump
Trade for a Glastrier
hollow island
ok
mighty stump
Or play the DLC
solid frigate
or just play the Indigo Disk yeah
hollow island
is he in s/v dlc too
hollow island
dangit
mighty stump
You don’t need 0 spe Caly
hollow island
i already picked the other horse in swsh
hollow island
i guess
next stump
it’s like a 10ish hour grind to get calyrex ice yourself if you want to do that, not the worst
solid frigate
either caly is just
Why they exists
next stump
and then you have it forever
chrome knot
it’s like a 10ish hour grind to get calyrex ice yourself if you want to do that,...
7 if ur me
mighty stump
it’s like a 10ish hour grind to get calyrex ice yourself if you want to do that,...
I need to redo things so I can shiny hunt Regice…
I only rushed it to catch a Regidrago…
Wonder if I’ve caught a Kyo yet
I don’t remember
Should hunt it
hollow island
ive only been able to gwt one shiny legendary from raid dungeons
mighty stump
its 1/100 it’s not bad
hollow island
ik i just did a lot of them
chrome knot
DA hunt tapu fini with me tofu
mighty stump
DA hunt tapu fini with me tofu
Can I bring Bdrum Iron Hands
hollow island
i really wanted shiny tapu lele and i got it
foggy lodge
ive only been able to gwt one shiny legendary from raid dungeons
I got a random zygarde shiny from the raids
So yeah 1/100 is pretty good
chrome knot
ABSOLUTELY NOT
chrome knot
erm watch this ohko…
mighty stump
ill OHKO when you can cut a pill
chrome knot
i sorta cut it last nighy
mighty stump
how do you “sorta” cut it
mighty stump
THERE IS LITERALLY A GROOVE FOR 50:50 CUTS
pallid hare
dont you have a pill cutter?
solid frigate
what the fu NOT AGAIN
chrome knot
no this aint even about this i just wwnna DA with tofu for tapu fini
chrome knot
can i just give u a kyogre
mighty stump
no you don’t
chrome knot
:(((((((
mighty stump
you cant hate me I just vacuumed
chrome knot
oh ok
mighty stump
-ᴗ-
mighty stump
Okay its 2 am, I have to go to IKEA in the morning to grab a buncha shit solo
chrome knot
i rly wish i could see the DA chat right about now..
chrome knot
yah but once u get like nova to say shes down in sv raids chat suddenly everyone has swsh and can play
mighty stump
ITS NOT EVEN
chrome knot
No Access
mighty stump
Most recent is just Xern
mighty stump
Lol
I kinda need to go and see if I did already catch Kyo
Guess not
Guess ik what im doing
chrome knot
how do i do da resets
next stump
find a path you want, complete the raid, check for shinies, hard close your game before you select a pokemon if none are shiny
chrome knot
okie
next stump
you’ll be charged 3(?) ore every quit because the game thinks you’re abandoning your team despite playing solo
so you need to have some stocked up
long narwhal
Whats the best reg g team?
next stump
there isn’t a definitive best, it’s a pretty open meta
I think there’s 4-5 restricteds who can win a tournament on any given day
bold geode
Does Eerie Impulse work on Electric types or nah
bold geode
Like as a move to use on or against
molten oasis
Like as a move to use on or against
eerie impulse works on everything without clear amulet
chrome knot
Like as a move to use on or against
against
bold geode
Ah
If only there wasn't a decent amount of prio blockers
Thundy would go hard for Zama maybe
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
next stump
there has been a couple Zama Thundy teams that I’ve seen
molten oasis
you could just attack tbf
next stump
one was at my local yesterday and got top 4
round bison
Got a queation. My team is comprised of quaquaval, tinkaton, arboliva lokix and ogrepon. I am trying to find a a good 6th fit between garganacl and great tusk. Which is better in the overal team compesition.
round bison
Story into possible online matches.
round bison
uhh great tusk ig
Wont that type overlaps be an issue.
round bison
Hm
craggy dagger
i lost to a team without restricteds…
wtf
solid frigate
i lost to a team without restricteds…
wtf
been into that situation before
molten oasis
i lost to a team without restricteds…
wtf
didn't you use a team without restricteds
craggy dagger
a-
chi yu outsped me…
molten oasis
lol
craggy dagger
i gotta stop losing speed ties
molten oasis
SPEED TOES LOL
craggy dagger
molten oasis
i gotta stop losing speed ties
chrome knot
@mighty stump
so I have to complete quests 2 & 3
do you want any g birds in specific balls ?
mighty stump
do you want any g birds in specific balls ?
Uh Goltres is Lux
I have a really good Kyo path
chrome knot
2late i caught that one first in a moon ball :v
next stump
this is so cool hahaha
nocturne holly
this is so cool hahaha
Is it like a tournament outside or
next stump
yeah
molten oasis
thats awesome
jade dust
what is caly ice doing to kyogre again..?
I have seed bomb, and with swampert I can deal a lot of damage to Kyoger with helping hand earthquake
Then finish it off next turn with calyice
molten oasis
i still dont understand that but ok
solid frigate
i still dont understand that but ok
i rather use Ogerpon as it actually has STAB
spiral pawn
Thoughts on this doubles team? (Reg G) https://pokepast.es/a8231050b4fdc7c6
charred saddle
kinda hard to say but raichu is squishy so
it always want to have sash, same as pao
and idk about and shifu + drain pucnh
plain drum
kinda hard to say but raichu is squishy so
Hold Raichu gentle like hamburger
solid frigate
Hold Raichu gentle like hamburger
plain drum
True
charred saddle
Hold Raichu gentle like hamburger
junior patrol
How come in the casual ladder I see people rocking full legendary teams. I thought you were only allowed one restricted unless not all legends are restricted
solid frigate
Casual ladder has no rules
But then again they rock Full legednaries with Wrong Movesets so
next stump
Thoughts on this doubles team? (Reg G) https://pokepast.es/a8231050b4fdc7c6
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Haven't used Eternatus myself so I can't comment much on it, just a little confused as to why you opted for the SpD investment compared to HP. The set itself looks fine though.
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Incineroar almost never runs 252ATK since it's not really designed to deal massive damage. I'd consider running more HP, SpD, and SPE investment and dropping the ATK to much lower. You're also wasting EVs technically, you always want to invest in either 3 or 5 stats.
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Pelipper without Focus Sash needs to run some bulk, otherwise you drop to everything. Sitrus is also probably worse than Rocky Helmet if you're running a non focus sash Peli
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Raichu wants Fake Out over Play Rough. What is Play Rough designed to hit that the team doesn't already hit with another member? Also ATK investment is really not needed once you drop Play Rough, so you can invest into basically full bulk (with some SPE too)
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Pao is very standard, nothing to comment there
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If you're running Banded Urshifu, you want to run Close Combat to pick up OHKOs that you're otherwise missing with Drain Punch. You're not there for longevity, you're there to deal massive damage and pin your opponents
glad osprey
Falling in love with VGC at the moment
spiral pawn
- Haven't used Eternatus myself so I can't comment much on it, just a little con...
SpD is for a standard miridon set btw. If I have eternatus and raichu on the field I can fake out with raichu and then go for the m beam for a guaranteed 2HKO if it lands and then next turn go for d cannon to finish. If I go for a d cannon fst turn, it’s not a guaranteed 2HKO. Eternatus is trained to be the minimum amount faster to a modest miridon. I can’t out speed a timid miridon no matter what though
I will change everything else
Also I just got a shiny pichu right after posting the pokepaste because I was preparing to shiny hunt it cause of the special event and when I got there the first one I saw was shiny lol. I only had shiny charm boosts lol
craggy dagger
i heard eternatus
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
nocturne holly
Why is bro that fast
craggy dagger
eternatus wants more hp bulk than SpD bulk-
and i wouldn’t run max SpA on eternatus either-
it’s a bit like lugia in that it’s more bulk oriented but it’ll hit harder than lugia
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
nocturne holly
Shame they slapped it on so many restricted
jade dust
Does storm drain prevent spread moves from hitting their partner?
turbid shell
no
devout nebula
storm drain tanks the water type move
instead of hitting lets say your flutter mane it hits your storm drain user
next stump
not true
if kyogre uses water spout, gastrodon's partner will still take damage
i'm 99.9% sure
craggy dagger
no?
i think spread still hits the other side-
molten oasis
No
devout nebula
oh
molten oasis
Storm drain takes all the water attacks I believe
craggy dagger
i haven’t seen storm drain in forever-
might be all attacks not too sure
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
craggy dagger
oh-
it does absorb spread huh.
molten oasis
That’s why gastro is so good into kyogre
devout nebula
knew it
craggy dagger
i think lightning rod does the same-
molten oasis
Yes
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
craggy dagger
i know lightning rod does that cause i’ve run raichu next to miraidon and hit discharge 
devout nebula
lol
mighty stump
if kyogre uses water spout, gastrodon's partner will still take damage
Correct
These abilities do not stop Spread damage
Gastrodon was only good into Kyogre in Gen 8 since you were trying to stop Max Geysers lol
craggy dagger
These abilities do not stop Spread damage
oh do they not?
mighty stump
Nope
That’s also why Wellspring is a very poor “counter” to Kyogre
Your side slot still explodes
craggy dagger
mighty stump
It says Single-Target right there lol
craggy dagger
water absorb doesn’t but storm drain does i-
man i’m so confused
nocturne holly
Single target
craggy dagger
oh-
i’m blind
mighty stump
Storm Drain, like a drain
bold geode
water absorb doesn’t but storm drain does i-
man i’m so confused
HAI NOVA
craggy dagger
bold geode
Storm Drain, like a drain
Go to bed fucker
craggy dagger
i disappear now 
mighty stump
Go to bed fucker
Get good at VGC first then I’ll listen to you
bold geode
i disappear now <a:ShoukoPeace:796931108222271498>
Get back here
next stump
proof it's just the gastro avoiding the attack
pallid hare
Shame they slapped it on so many restricted
considering that back in the day most of those pokemon with pressure were legendary fights that were meant to drain your resources, having something like Pressure would be just another means to reinforce the fact that you'd need to be well-prepared to fight/catch them. Its kinda like the issue with Regigigas, where it was designed more as a boss fight than an actual usable pokemon in a competitive environment, with little consideration to the latter.
bold geode
Get good at VGC first then I’ll listen to you
Aight I'm sorry
I'm J Cole now, I take that back
next stump
how obscenely broken would gastro be if it absorbed the whole hit
craggy dagger
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2164978502
awhhh ok
mighty stump
I feel like we’ve had this discussion like 2 times previously
craggy dagger
gastro was also good in swsh due to surging strikes too iirc-
molten oasis
I feel like we’ve had this discussion like 2 times previously
I’ve never had this conversation
craggy dagger
my brain is slowing down at a rapid rate-
i have no clue what im saying anymore so i should prolly shut up
molten oasis
With storm drain, with water absorb yes
junior patrol
I just realized the Gen 6 legends aren't in the game
craggy dagger
if they were-
double fairy meta would be a little OP-
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
craggy dagger
or redirect xerneas 
junior patrol
Geomancy Xernas with Flutter Mae sounds devious
molten oasis
Zygarde with Tera next to clef would be stupid
craggy dagger
next to clef?
molten oasis
More bulk
craggy dagger
also i just wanna say-
the sheer stupidity of core enforcer
molten oasis
What gets that
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
junior patrol
Zygarde
molten oasis
Unbelievably bulky
craggy dagger
right-?
core enforcer is a dragon type move-
the whole point of it was to nullify fairy and dark aura
but one problem-
zygarde can’t hit xerneas and nullify fairy aura when running power construct
turbid shell
crist, thats a ton
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
molten oasis
Interesting
craggy dagger
aura break is cool-
but then zygarde is stuck in 50% form
which means it loses the massive buff it gets when it transforms into complete form
and core enforcer was supposed to be aura break as a move and nullify the other aura abilities
but it can’t nullify fairy aura
hazy vector
Isn't Xerneas and Yvetal not in SV
pallid hare
nope
hazy vector
Aren't *
pallid hare
none of the aura trio are in sv
molten oasis
They are not (thank god fuck xerneas)
nocturne holly
Interesting
Is this zygardes ability
hazy vector
Odd
junior patrol
Yeah they're not and I had just noticed it cause I was thinking about them
craggy dagger
Is this zygardes ability
zygarde regular’s ability yes-
if it doesn’t want to transform into complete
junior patrol
Why do you think they didn't bring them into SV
pallid hare
Why do you think they didn't bring them into SV
Legends Z-A
molten oasis
Legends ZA
craggy dagger
Why do you think they didn't bring them into SV
cause it’d shred through everything but also ZA
molten oasis
or balancing reasons
hazy vector
Well I need help but for a comp team but it's a swsh team so I'm not sure if ima get laughed outta here into the dead swsh channels
molten oasis
cause it’d shred through everything but also ZA
It’s not like CSR doesn’t already do that
craggy dagger
Well I need help but for a comp team but it's a swsh team so I'm not sure if ima...
feel free to drop your swsh ideas here :3
craggy dagger
i could prolly help with that better than sv
hazy vector
Very odd team so far
molten oasis
BUT that also means Zac would likely get more play
hazy vector
I asked 3 people what pokemon I should use I only have half my team built but it's an odd squad I need 3 pokemon to help this team be rounded how should I do it with Hitmontop, Hitmonchan and Aegislash
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
molten oasis
Zac should be good into Xern at least on paper
I was worried about it getting ep, yea Zac would be good into it
craggy dagger
I asked 3 people what pokemon I should use I only have half my team built but it...
double hitmons is interesting-
craggy dagger
I was worried about it getting ep, yea Zac would be good into it
it gets terrain pulse but not weather ball interesting
hazy vector
I have a Hitmonchan named Punching Bag
molten oasis
Interesting
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
molten oasis
Oh
craggy dagger
well if you’re gonna run those three-
i’d add a fairy type to compete the fantasy trio
hazy vector
Gonna name The top Capoera
molten oasis
It’s 131 base spa?
hazy vector
Hope I said that right
craggy dagger
It’s 131 base spa?
131 base atks yes
molten oasis
Isn’t
craggy dagger
but it always goes special cause geomancy
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
craggy dagger
same
molten oasis
The stats are identical
hazy vector
but it always goes special cause geomancy
So any ideas
craggy dagger
craggy dagger
well if you’re gonna run those three-
i’d add a fairy type to compete the fantas...
well for starters you could do this
molten oasis
That’s crazy
hazy vector
Now if I get Hatterene instead I was hoping maybe using Obstagoon
craggy dagger
i’d say grim maybe?
but i was thinking something along the lines of clefable, sylveon, alcremie or mimikyu
turbid shell
Easy Hatterene or Grimmsnarl
id say grim for duel screen
hazy vector
Guess what
craggy dagger
hm-
hazy vector
Chan has iron fist
craggy dagger
Still hate the idea of fighting xerneas
tera fighting tera blast xerneas…
hazy vector
But minus defense, doesn't matter since it's low anyways
molten oasis
tera fighting tera blast xerneas…
Tera fire Tera blast 100%
molten oasis
Ice and electric probably
craggy dagger
Tera fire Tera blast 100%
fighting or fire-
though i can see ground as well
chrome knot
i cant find fini
molten oasis
Are you hunting legendaries?
hazy vector
Oh wait
chrome knot
I want fini for next gen is available
hazy vector
Drain punch, last move for chan
chrome knot
shiny one
chrome knot
DAs make me so eepy
hazy vector
Okay so what item for Chan
craggy dagger
punching gloves-
hazy vector
Oh
craggy dagger
for the theme of punch punch
hazy vector
True
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
hazy vector
Now where do I get those rip
craggy dagger
hazy vector
Also what about top
pallid hare
not in SWSH. introduced in SV
hazy vector
not in SWSH. introduced in SV
Good save
chrome knot
Celesteela
hazy vector
Huh
craggy dagger
not in SWSH. introduced in SV
oh-
craggy dagger
Celesteela
chrome knot
modern harbor
i dont like DAs
chrome knot
i dont like DAs
i just want finiiiii
modern harbor
i am phase 14 for necrozma
hazy vector
Okay
craggy dagger
i still need to get shiny rayquaza and cresselia
chrome knot
id kill myself I think
craggy dagger
id kill myself I think
do co op-
:3
hazy vector
Who should number 5 be
chrome knot
do co op-
:3
i cannot see the chat
spiral ridge
I’ve been on lunala for months on and off 😭
chrome knot
imforced to play with randoms who dont know type matchups
molten oasis
thats a dope shiny to get, id like to get koko and fini at somepoint
craggy dagger
i cannot see the chat
no like-
close friends-
who said they have to be in the server smh
hazy vector
imforced to play with randoms who dont know type matchups
Torture
molten oasis
if i felt like clicking a forever
cunning topaz
i want to use Garticuno more still
chrome knot
no like-
close friends-
who said they have to be in the server smh
i dont wanna put my friends through this torture as well tbh
craggy dagger
molten oasis
i dont wanna put my friends through this torture as well tbh
wouldn't hurt to ask
craggy dagger
why can’t i join-
chrome knot
bc imagine I went @craggy dagger hey wanna play 100s of dynamax adventures until I found a fish
craggy dagger
lmao-
molten oasis
what if she said yes
chrome knot
we're about to beat it but somebody picked wheezing so we are GOING to lose
molten oasis
hazy vector
Okay then
chrome knot
nvm we outsped it victory yay
molten oasis
is this the one?
craggy dagger
i think i already caught a regular fini so i wouldn’t be able to hunt with you but id support :0
spiral ridge
DA has been rough
craggy dagger
cress raids-
why is cress so bulky
chrome knot
is this the one?
no this is a celesteela actually
spiral ridge
I need to try for lunala soon again
molten oasis
oh
chrome knot
I have a lunala thing saved
molten oasis
you're just looking for fini rn?
pallid hare
cress raids-
<a:AE_desk:864886113683111987>
why is cress so bulky
because cresselia is normally quite bulky, and this was before it was nerfed
chrome knot
I have to FIND fini first
craggy dagger
I have to FIND fini first
smh
molten oasis
hopefully you find it
chrome knot
this one for sure
rustic mountain
u can solo run das, much easier then goin w/ randos. u can see what the npcs pick on each given path (if u go the same routes theyll pick the same mons) nd subsequently how efficient that specific path is for the legend. if its worth it u reset, if ur losing like b2b or every other, its not worth and u jus find another path
craggy dagger
go ask peonia too-
she’ll have random paths you can save
molten oasis
oh yea she does do that huh
chrome knot
shes bitching abt the new quest dialogue
molten oasis
LOL
chrome knot
bc I just unlocked ultra beasts on switch 2
craggy dagger
shes bitching abt the new quest dialogue
what-
you haven’t finished the dlc have you-
chrome knot
I JUST UNLOCKED UBS
molten oasis
craggy dagger
what
chrome knot
this save is literally just champ beat, dlc2 completed
spiral ridge
Oh yeah I haven’t unlocked UB lmao
pallid hare
Progression Issue
craggy dagger
doesn’t she give paths-?
chrome knot
ur mom issue
molten oasis
damn
craggy dagger
ur mom issue
i sense some skill issue from your side
pallid hare
ur mom issue
no, just no
spiral ridge
I’ve done zero dlc 2 stuff soon as I could start lunala haven’t moved from it
rustic mountain
endless das on the left side are great for restocking ore, jus gta get a run long enough going
chrome knot
i jus picked forsmoth
maybe I should go to bed for today wait no its a ground type
im goated
craggy dagger
chrome knot
IT HAS NO ICE TYPE STAB LMAO
chrome knot
ughhhhhhhhh I hate DA sets like why
spiral ridge
DA sets are a little funky
chrome knot
ITS 5PM
craggy dagger
EMMA GO SLEEP
chrome knot
YOU GO TO SLEEP
craggy dagger
ITS LATE
chrome knot
IM LOCKED INTO THIS DA
craggy dagger
YOU GO TO SLEEP
i just woke back up a couple minutes ago
chrome knot
I cannot abandon these random guys (I can, I already have once)
pallid hare
Abandonement Issue
jade dust
how obscenely broken would gastro be if it absorbed the whole hit
I mean Gastrodon still fell off a lot, if it absorbed the whole move would stay relevant
rustic mountain
it doesnt do enough
chrome knot
why cant I make my sets for my mons
jade dust
But then all people not using Kyoger would have a gastrodon
rustic mountain
also kyogre not being as good as it has been also makes gastro worse
chrome knot
like imagine I lock a pokemon and I got a minute to type in moves like im on showdown
id be so goated at that I make my sets at the speed of light
pallid hare
why cant I make my sets for my mons
because if you want a good chance at getting shinies, you suffer for them
jade dust
also kyogre not being as good as it has been also makes gastro worse
Kyoger is still one of the most used legendaries
Today
rustic mountain
reading comprehension is important
molten oasis
its, kyogre's good
chrome knot
molten oasis
kyogre also isnt in the top 5, imo
jade dust
also kyogre not being as good as it has been also makes gastro worse
I think it’s as good as always
molten oasis
i think zama has the edge, slightly
jade dust
If you mean not as good as ORAS then yes
craggy dagger
smh-
people used gastro for max geyser and surging strikes-
molten oasis
positive mu into CIR and Terapagos is nice
jade dust
That was game breaking
craggy dagger
If you mean not as good as ORAS then yes
read
molten oasis
top 5 imo being ice rider shadow rider pagos mirai zama
rustic mountain
I think it’s as good as always
disagree, it was the big bad in past formats. its still good but just not that same level
chrome knot
I just got put to bed nova what the hellllllllll
pallid hare
the big bad orca's feeling their age
chrome knot
the game is tryina talk to me
molten oasis
idt its at detrimental not having a kyogre mu as it is a CSR or CIR mu
jade dust
kyogre also isnt in the top 5, imo
Well cuz there is more than 5 broken legendaries now
molten oasis
its more than that
craggy dagger
I just got put to bed nova what the hellllllllll
good-
you need sleep
rustic mountain
y r u even hunting fini now wen its not even legal
molten oasis
its for later
chrome knot
future planning
pallid hare
the game is tryina talk to me
it says you're 37 DAs away from getting Fini
rustic mountain
fair enough
chrome knot
so future me doesnt have to do it
jade dust
And only one legendary per team
chrome knot
OK I just got fucking rocked by airstream
rustic mountain
i did, it was honestly jus unfortunate rng, ive had plenty of under odds shiny legend hunts
rustic mountain
yea
it was brutal haha eventually jus had a friend offer me hers cuz she didnt want it
might complete it myself eventually idk
chrome knot
the guy with the 11% & asleep just skipped on taking the fucking mon bruh!!
rustic mountain
im tellin u, ur better off w/ npcs
chrome knot
probably!!!
rustic mountain
no like 100%
pallid hare
you really are
chrome knot
@craggy dagger please help meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
rustic mountain
i did all my runs solo for my shiny legend hunts including groudon and kyogre
chrome knot
im a fat fucking dubwool and I cannot do this by myself
hazy vector
Hi
pallid hare
im a fat fucking dubwool and I cannot do this by myself
I can offer hugs if that will make you feel better
chrome knot
im now intoxicated
pallid hare
you mean poisoned? or actually drunk?
chrome knot
it clicked toxic @ me
pallid hare
oh, then badly poisoned
molten oasis
im a fat fucking dubwool and I cannot do this by myself
yay
chrome knot
ok the octopus is back to 55% from 2 drain punches bruh went ALL OR NOTHING on waking up t1
chrome knot
pallid hare
chrome knot
this is literally me
rustic mountain
pallid hare
I forgot this was here
yes, this is one way to actually hunt alolachu
chrome knot
i got 19 w/o marks on sv
rustic mountain
lol
pallid hare
I got a rare mark female alolachu
rustic mountain
reminds me of my glimmet hunt, got like 16 w/o any mark
chrome knot
I just got fucking ANNIHILATED
pallid hare
that happens from time to time
pallid hare
quagsire can now see better
pallid hare
inted?
chrome knot
o that is just the worst case scenario
pallid hare
oh, so its fubar
chrome knot
quag was quite the low hp was like mmmmm imagine I get another water type for this
at the scentist girl and uhhh
I got bisharp against Lando I
pallid hare
well, then, nice knowing you
chrome knot
yeah... I lived through turn 1 tho!!
octopus just tera'd @ literally 1hp
bros we are so fucked
craggy dagger
<@541037106496012290> please help meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
once i get home
craggy dagger
i got 19 w/o marks on sv
you’re getting marks-???
chrome knot
i wanted destiny mark :(
chrome knot
holy fuck
cunning topaz
give me any mark-
i’m 3 boxes in w/o marks
🙏
jade dust
What are the chances of waking up from sleep per turn?
nocturne holly
https://pokepast.es/159561b287125d68 what can I replace bolt with on this
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
chrome knot
you have no miraidon mu if u replace bolt
jade dust
https://pokepast.es/159561b287125d68 what can I replace bolt with on this
I was gonna say you don’t have a counter to zama either
nocturne holly
yea zama is tough
jade dust
I use chandelure for that but it’s a nish pick
If trick room is the main focus, I would use Mieshao instead of Urshifu
Fake out, close combat, coaching and wide guard with sash
Inner focus prevents flinch and intimidate so sash is a viable option without protect cuz most people won’t fake out Mieshao and it’s pretty fast so it wins the fake out war
Close combat deletes incineroar as well
knotty mirage
Is it better for caly ice to have grass tera or fire tera ?
chrome knot
Inner focus prevents flinch and intimidate so sash is a viable option without pr...
me who has won a match bc i used fake out prio bracket to kill a mienshao and win a game
modern harbor
i feel like protect is better than wide guard on zama
modern harbor
Is it better for caly ice to have grass tera or fire tera ?
also water is an option
knotty mirage
also water is an option
I guess so but grass have spore immunity and fire have burn immunity which probably the status that people want to inflict the most on caly ice
jade dust
Is it better for caly ice to have grass tera or fire tera ?
Water is good defensively
knotty mirage
The thing is i really want the water ressist but there just too much people using will o wisp making caly ice nearly unusable
jade dust
But immunity to spore or burn are great
If you have a way around status then water is very good
That’s why I run cresselia
Lunar blessing cures burn and sleep
nocturne holly
i feel like protect is better than wide guard on zama
You can still have wide guard and protect on it
That’s like what most run
knotty mirage
Ah right nearly forgot cress exist been long time since i use her
I guess i can just use cress then and give the caly ice water tera then
jade dust
Yeah that’s why I use water on mine
molten oasis
cress is not used for a reason
jade dust
But I use moonblast in cresselia instead of psychic so I can break the sash of chein pao and chu yin
knotty mirage
Hmm
jade dust
cress is not used for a reason
Cuz people who s not using tera electric cress
molten oasis
tera electric cress is mid
jade dust
Very hard to remove
nocturne holly
If trick room is the main focus, I would use Mieshao instead of Urshifu
How does this help with my zam mu
Ig it might be something to consider
jade dust
Also I saw 3 trick room teams with cresselia last night
nocturne holly
But yea my mirai mu is kinda mid without bolt
bold geode
tera electric cress is mid
Um
Your mom? (People still using that shit?)
jade dust
Miraidon is very hard if it ohko your trick room setter
jade dust
Um
Your mom? (People still using that shit?)
Me
But no actually
I saw a few teams with cresselia last night
jade dust
Lunar blessing is definitely a good support move
modern harbor
You can still have wide guard and protect on it
i was running that but im playing a few games with protect iron def and it feels better
knotty mirage
You know what i will just go for fire tera then burn immunity is nice even tho it gonna suck agains't water type mon
bold geode
You want Tera Fairy if you do use it to survive Dark attacks or even Tera Dark/Water, although I wouldn't say to use it
jade dust
You know what i will just go for fire tera then burn immunity is nice even tho i...
Also the caly ice dittos is hard cuz they all use high horsepower
chrome knot
@craggy dagger help meeeeeee
bold geode
Idt Nova around
jade dust
You want Tera Fairy if you do use it to survive Dark attacks or even Tera Dark/W...
Well electric saves you from miraidon
And removes all her weaknesses
chrome knot
she neede to beeee
knotty mirage
Also the caly ice dittos is hard cuz they all use high horsepower
I mean ditto just copy move
chrome knot
i need do dynamax adventures lmao
jade dust
I mean ditto just copy move
I mean against other caly ice teams
Mirror match
Just be mindful of that
But fire is good tera
bold geode
Well electric saves you from miraidon
Draco Meteors your ass
Also Super Effective hits aren't everything
You can rock shit with strong neutral attacks
A Draco Meteor will still fuck it
knotty mirage
I probably will try not to tera in front of mirror caly ice then
jade dust
Draco Meteors your ass
Also Super Effective hits aren't everything
You can rock...
Nah takes around half hp
chrome knot
cress sucks rn
bold geode
Yeah also Cresselia doesn't really contribute as much rn
jade dust
Yeah also Cresselia doesn't really contribute as much rn
Helping hand
bold geode
Chat this Capri Sun slaps
chrome knot
half the cast can learn helping hand
bold geode
Helping hand
I can name other Pokemon that can do that
knotty mirage
At least fire is more forgiving with high horse power than getting hit super effectively with glacial Lance
chrome knot
good example beinngghhh
jade dust
Damage wise yes cresselia is terrible
chrome knot
jade dust
Farigiraf has foul play which is great
chrome knot
and psychic noise !
molten oasis
fari the goat
bold geode
Incineroar, Farigiraf, Clefairy, Tinkaton, Hitmontop just for starters
chrome knot
@bold geode do u have swsh + dlc
molten oasis
LOL
bold geode
At work
chrome knot
come homeeee
molten oasis
desperate huh
chrome knot
pls :(
bold geode
Also I'm not that far in the game anyways so
chrome knot
for FUCKsake
chrome knot
desperate huh
incredibly
bold geode
What you even going for