#competitive_discussion

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fickle veldt
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that effects everything right?

jade dust
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Yeah true

balmy glen
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yes

craggy dagger
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yep

bronze vessel
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30K FOR A MIRROR HERB?

jade dust
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Anything else?

bronze vessel
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i barely have enough lp for that (i have 3k pokedollars)

craggy dagger
balmy glen
jade dust
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Besides haze and clear smog?

bronze vessel
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how long does it take for it to work?

craggy dagger
bronze vessel
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oh

fickle veldt
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whats a good dedenne set

bronze vessel
craggy dagger
# jade dust Besides haze and clear smog?

if you wanna deal with zamazenta and its defense boost-
you can-

  1. use a special attacker
  2. use a defense lowering move instead like thunderous kick, leer, etc
  3. bring an urshifu for crits
  4. get lucky and crit
  5. brute force and somehow murder it
fickle veldt
bronze vessel
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oh it worked on the first picnic

craggy dagger
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you only need to go in and out once
thats after you gave achu mirror herb and it has 3 moves :3

bold geode
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Haze
Having something that threatens it
Gholdengo
Chandelure

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Chi Yu and Lando threaten it

craggy dagger
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yep

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opinions on uh...
brute bonnet redirection...

molten oasis
craggy dagger
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oh no nvm

molten oasis
craggy dagger
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bonnet is
KEKW_Cry

bold geode
bronze vessel
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im going broke from buying vitamins for my mons

molten oasis
jade dust
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Oh wait Toxapex learns both haze and wide guard

craggy dagger
bold geode
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Why is Clefable there

craggy dagger
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unaware follow me for things like cm bolt and stuff
though its a bit...
outdated...

solid frigate
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legit don't know but let Nova cookarkeknine

craggy dagger
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also to deal with dozogiri players that
still exist apperently

bold geode
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Ah lol
I was boutta say

solid frigate
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I mean,Sinclair is one of the Dozogiri Players lol

craggy dagger
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well..
Thats a game one flopped
i forgor that my tailwind went down

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but hey-
Specs hadron engine ice blast did enough

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oops
my clefable has present

solid frigate
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oof

solid frigate
rustic mountain
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cir winning vr tour

balmy glen
bold geode
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Here I go talking to plants again

solid frigate
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Calyrex:With Max Bulk

Iron Crown:Aight Bet

chrome knot
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i so sleepy

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@balmy glen im on the board nowwww +12 lmfao

balmy glen
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nice nice

chrome knot
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played a team that was literally designed to annoy patcon team

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nm i can do tbh

craggy dagger
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psychic noise :0

shadow wind
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Feel bad for the guy I just beat.

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At that high of elo -29 is like a nuclear bomb going off.

solid frigate
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Just some funny Moment i have when i faced a Cart Ladder:

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somehow the Calyrex did not Tera

rustic mountain
rustic mountain
bold geode
rustic mountain
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ash's rowlet

solid frigate
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aka the god of Gods

(Except Bidoof)

jade dust
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Does burn affect body press?

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Or only moves that use atk?

craggy dagger
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yes

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burn affects any physical move iirc

dapper crag
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Move: Light That Burns the Sky

This move becomes a physical attack if the user's Attack is greater than its Special Attack, including stat stage changes. This move and its effects ignore the Abilities of other Pokemon.

Type

Psychic

Category

Special

Power

200

Accuracy

PP (max)

1 (1.6)

Move Flags

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

next stump
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halves the base power of any physical move

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so ye it halves body press damage

jade dust
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I see, so burning jealousy is effective against Zamasenta

craggy dagger
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oooo burning jealousy isnt a bad idea but you'll have to catch it on the turn it gets the dauntless boost

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otherwise you wont get the 100% burn

jade dust
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Or if they use iron defense

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Something very troll is to use burning jealousy and haze next turn

craggy dagger
dapper crag
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Move: Mist

For 5 turns, the user and its party members are protected from having their stat stages lowered by other Pokemon. Fails if the effect is already active on the user's side.

Type

Ice

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

PP (max)

30 (48)

Move Flags

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Snatch

Affected by Snatch.

jade dust
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So yeah chandelure is a good idea to counter Zamasenta

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It learns burning jealousy and is immune to body press

balmy glen
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mhm

craggy dagger
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yep

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chandy has always been a good check into zama

chrome knot
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im a calyrex ice rider girl

craggy dagger
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give me any pokemon that can actually do damage and i can make them work ¯_(ツ)_/¯

chrome knot
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calyrex ice rider

craggy dagger
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been there done that-

pallid hare
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Mewtwo

craggy dagger
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done LappWorried

pallid hare
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ok, do a damage based Lugia

craggy dagger
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done-

pallid hare
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Ok, how about Base Necrozma

craggy dagger
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guess thats next

chrome knot
craggy dagger
dapper crag
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Move: Aeroblast

Has a higher chance for a critical hit.

Type

Flying

Category

Special

Power

100

Accuracy

95

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Wind

Triggers Wind Power and Wind Rider.

craggy dagger
silver ravine
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Any thoughts of a fun team that either wins or loses fast?

next stump
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specs miraidon teams

shadow wind
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Dondozo+Tatsuicide Calyrex Shadow Psychup.

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Explosion Regieleki.

craggy dagger
shadow wind
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Is Scarf Calyrex Shadow becoming a more common thing?

bold geode
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Absolutely not

shadow wind
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Really?

bold geode
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No

shadow wind
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I fought like 3 today alone.

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Like super high ladder too.

bold geode
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Bro fought the same guy

shadow wind
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Nah.

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Different guys every time.

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To be fair though the last one I fought was using Maushold and Pawmot... So maybe not the best team to sample.

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Although they were really high ladder so maybe they know something I don't.

bold geode
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CSR does not need Scarf lol

craggy dagger
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it’s called overkill

nocturne holly
bold geode
shadow wind
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Well I mean it allows for them to outspeed booster speed flutter and it allows them to run modest.

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It isn't ridiculous.

bold geode
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Like why do you really need something to be moving at 300 without any investment

craggy dagger
shadow wind
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To hit harder? I'm not entirely sure but they were real high on ladder so clearly it was working.

craggy dagger
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he’s a short boi KEKW_Cry

silver ravine
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*short king

shadow wind
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This was the team is you guys were curious.

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With Scarf Caly.

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Shoot, it didn't change.

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There.

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It's a wild team but it seems fun.

solid frigate
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hoi

silver ravine
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Keep switching in Miradion instead of Ursa BM when I have tr up D:

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Will say it's neato burrtio that Grimsnarl is getting some love lately

shadow wind
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Like usage?

silver ravine
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Yeah I've been seeing him a lot lately. Though I'm in lower bracket so that could be why

craggy dagger
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go back to bed it’s late

bold geode
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Scarf makes them go faster

shadow wind
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I was talking about modest scarf.

solid frigate
craggy dagger
shadow wind
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Hey man, if it was working it was working. Can’t discredit that guy. Higher than I’ve ever been in ladder.

jade dust
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Helping hand glacial lance

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Or hhp

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It ohko incineroar

shadow wind
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What tera type do Calyices run most commonly?

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I’ve seen a lot of all 3 starter types but mostly fire or water.

jade dust
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Nobody uses grass lol

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But yes Fire and Water

shadow wind
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I’ve seen a bunch of grass actually.

jade dust
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Really?

shadow wind
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It’s good against Amoongus.

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Definitely less often than Fire and Water though.

jade dust
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I guess to avoid spore yes

shadow wind
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Still the third most used one I think.

craggy dagger
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fire is good cause wisp

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water is just a good defensive typing

jade dust
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I use ice just to guarantee kos

shadow wind
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Yeah I’ve seen ice as well.

mighty stump
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FWG is the most common lol in that order

shadow wind
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I saw dragon the other day.

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Seemed legit until Fluttermane.

mighty stump
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Its also to not explode to Water Spouts for Kyogre, Grass/Water

craggy dagger
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i would say wfg is more common from what i’ve encountered

jade dust
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I don’t worry much about burn cuz I have lunar blessing cresselia

molten oasis
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fwg is everywhere

shadow wind
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Ooh that’s smart.

craggy dagger
molten oasis
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is not as common

mighty stump
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Fire (and ice Tera ig) is just prey to rock coverage

molten oasis
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incin shifu rilla/amoonguss is like, everywhere lol

craggy dagger
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but still equally as fun to play

jade dust
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The main reason I use cresselia as my trick room setter is lunar blessing

mighty stump
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I get too many freebie pins

jade dust
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So I don’t worry of status effects

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Burn, sleep or poison

mighty stump
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its great

molten oasis
shadow wind
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Rock Ogerpon!!

mighty stump
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No not Rockpon

molten oasis
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ah the, yea ok

shadow wind
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Aww.

molten oasis
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ik what he means

mighty stump
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yea harc

molten oasis
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harc

shadow wind
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Harc was my second guess.

molten oasis
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sounds good for ice rider

shadow wind
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Yeah it does actually.

molten oasis
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if you dont get high horsed into oblivion

shadow wind
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Just weak to HHP.

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Just get a Flying type follow me user.

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Easy.

lofty tartan
mighty stump
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I don’t even care if you Tera tbh

molten oasis
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grass is around

mighty stump
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I still OHKO

molten oasis
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does uh, head smash just ohko?

shadow wind
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I would assume so.

mighty stump
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HH Head Smash OHKOs always

molten oasis
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thats awesome

shadow wind
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Jeez.

molten oasis
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the CIR delete button

mighty stump
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14/16 roll

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at wordt

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so pretty much always

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lol

shadow wind
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Still pretty good.

molten oasis
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thats super good lol

mighty stump
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I was helping my teammate prep against Dillon/CIR and we found out that CIR lives Ivy Cudgel from Tera LO Grasspon + Surging Strikes or CC naturally

lofty tartan
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I just saw "nobody runs Grass" and was like... what?

mighty stump
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Lol

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Who made this Pokemon

molten oasis
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balanced pokemon right there

lofty tartan
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Still super undecided what I'm playing at my local. Thought about Screens Terapagos. Like Chi-Yu, Lando-I, Waterpon, Raging Bolt, Grimm, Terapagos 🤷

shadow wind
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Tera grass seed bomb Calyice‼️‼️

lofty tartan
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No

molten oasis
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plz dont

molten oasis
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could go flutter over lando potentially

lofty tartan
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Waterpon/Chi/Lando/Bolt is a pretty solid core.

molten oasis
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yea

shadow wind
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Actually there’s this ladder legend that uses Tera Grass Seed Bomb Calyice with Trapinch.

molten oasis
lofty tartan
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I mean if people playing on ladder don't know who they are, are they really a legend?

shadow wind
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I mean, they using Trapinch.

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In my books they a legend.

lofty tartan
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See: handicapping self.

molten oasis
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thats your opinion ig

shadow wind
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It is my opinion.

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If they can get multiple account to T500 with Trapinch, in my eyes they are sick.

lofty tartan
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🤷

molten oasis
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okay then

mighty stump
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its something

lofty tartan
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Ladder results are good and all but I don't think anyone in their right mind is taking Trapinch to anything serious.

shadow wind
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Oh probably not.

lofty tartan
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And like it really depends on if it's OTS or CTS

shadow wind
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I just think it’s way out of the box.

lofty tartan
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CTS, you can win with a LOT of junk

molten oasis
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yep

shadow wind
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Very true.

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I do like the idea of Trapinch though, just silly stuff like that.

mighty stump
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I’ve lost to that team like a couple of times

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Just cause Arena Trap is significant

shadow wind
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The Trapinch one?

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Arena trap + Feint is crazy strong.

mighty stump
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and I was caught in a passive position

lofty tartan
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Feint I think is more of a read thing. If you get the read right it's good, but otherwise it's pretty iffy.

shadow wind
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For sure.

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It’s great for TR though because naturally faster teams with try and stall it out.

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But feint prevents that entirely.

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And Trapinch still has 100 base atk stat. Nothing crazy but that Ground + Ice combo is deadly from Trapinch and Calyice.

mighty stump
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Feint good

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One of my favourite moves

shadow wind
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It’s super sick.

mighty stump
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Fits my playstyle perfectly

shadow wind
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Super situational though.

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Good for breaking sashes and stuff like that but if you can’t predict a protect it’s pretty much a useless move.

mighty stump
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Eh, chip

shadow wind
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I guess?

mighty stump
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Its more of a neutral gain cause like

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If you’re not doing anything else in that turn anyways

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Might as well cover for a Protect

shadow wind
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True.

mighty stump
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No reads required

shadow wind
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It’s definitely more for Pokémon like Trapinch or Hitmontop.

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Where they might have a turn where they can’t do anything else useful.

chrome knot
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hi tofu

bold geode
stiff helm
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Should i do phsyic or dream eater

mighty stump
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Morning

solid frigate
craggy dagger
solid frigate
slender zephyr
jade dust
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Helping hand comes before anything

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So can’t taunt that

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It’s hard to KO all the opponents within 5 turns but that’s fine a lot of the time, I did enough damage and kos to put my opponent in a checkmate situation specially if my caly is healthy

next stump
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oh shit calyrex-ice won victoryroad

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another dub for the gang

next stump
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VictoryRoad top 16 stats

craggy dagger
bold geode
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Crazy ass crossover

craggy dagger
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@bold geode

little plank
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Alright how do I get my rusted shield into pokemon scarlet? Just tried trading my zamazenta into home from shield and then into scarlet and the item disappeared

cyan smelt
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Go to the auction

jade dust
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I wanted to use trick room without Amoonguss but I gave up on that

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Amoonguss is almost a “must use” in tr

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Pollen puff moving first is so valuable as well as clear smog and spores

balmy glen
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What lol

jade dust
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Even if they taunt, that clear smog and pollen puff heal are really valuable

balmy glen
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Amoongus is not a must use in tr at all

jade dust
balmy glen
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I mean ig it might make sense for that for low ladder

jade dust
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Lol Amoonguss is one of the top grass of all time, arguably the best grass

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It has more competition now yes

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With Ogerpon and Rillaboom

craggy dagger
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rilla > moongus > cornerstone

stiff helm
solid frigate
dapper crag
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Meowscarada's moveset:
Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Bite, Brick Break, Bullet Seed, Facade, Fling, Flower Trick, Foul Play, Giga Impact, Grassy Glide, Knock Off, Lash Out, Leafage, Low Kick, Low Sweep, Night Slash, Petal Blizzard, Play Rough, Quick Attack, Scratch, Seed Bomb, Shadow Claw, Slash, Sucker Punch, Take Down, Thief, Throat Chop, Thunder Punch, Trailblaze, Triple Axel, U-turn

Special Moves

Aura Sphere, Chilling Water, Dark Pulse, Disarming Voice, Energy Ball, Frenzy Plant, Giga Drain, Grass Knot, Grass Pledge, Hyper Beam, Leaf Storm, Magical Leaf, Mud-Slap, Pollen Puff, Power Gem, Shadow Ball, Solar Beam, Swift, Tera Blast

Status Moves

Agility, Ally Switch, Charm, Copycat, Double Team, Endure, Fake Tears, Grassy Terrain, Helping Hand, Hone Claws, Leech Seed, Nasty Plot, Protect, Psych Up, Rest, Skill Swap, Sleep Talk, Spikes, Substitute, Tail Whip, Taunt, Toxic Spikes, Trick, Trick Room, Worry Seed

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Meowscarada.

solid frigate
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Nova what are you cookin this time

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 908: Meowscarada
Types

Grass/Dark

Abilities

Overgrow, Protean (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

76/110/70/81/70/123

Total

530

jade dust
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I think Rillaboom is less of an use if you are using incineroar

craggy dagger
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flowie trick, ally switch, protect, sucker punch i guess-

solid frigate
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With Sash Most Likely?

craggy dagger
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prolly

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i wanna do skill swap but i have no clue how it’ll interact

solid frigate
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wait with What Team tho

jade dust
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Idk why the kitty isn’t top pick. It fell off after the first format

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And has a very good move in flower trick

craggy dagger
jade dust
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That move is very good

craggy dagger
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giratina

jade dust
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People use giratina?

solid frigate
dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 487: Giratina
Types

Ghost/Dragon

Abilities

Pressure, Telepathy (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

150/100/120/100/120/90

Total

680

Other Formes

Giratina-Origin

craggy dagger
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it’s surprisingly bulky

dapper crag
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Move: Skill Swap

The user swaps its Ability with the target's Ability. Fails if either the user or the target's Ability is As One, Battle Bond, Comatose, Commander, Disguise, Embody Aspect, Hunger Switch, Ice Face, Illusion, Multitype, Neutralizing Gas, Poison Puppeteer, Power Construct, Protosynthesis, Quark Drive, RKS System, Schooling, Shields Down, Stance Change, Tera Shell, Tera Shift, Teraform Zero, Wonder Guard, Zen Mode, or Zero to Hero.

Type

Psychic

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Authentic

Bypasses substitute.

Contact

Does not make contact.

solid frigate
jade dust
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Or impressive attacks

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Also does black kyurem finally learn an ice move that isn’t ice punch?

mighty stump
solid frigate
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literally the better pokemon for the job anyway

mighty stump
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and at the time Meowscarada was only good to try and deal with Dondozo

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And even then it wasn’t the best

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and Garg ig but whatever

jade dust
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Priority haze

jade dust
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Protean didn’t need that nerf

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Not like Greninja and Cinder were top threats outside of smogoon

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They were broken in singles but in the official format they were never top picks

solid frigate
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fuck it i'll make a giratina team just for the curiousity

solid frigate
craggy dagger
jade dust
dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 487: Giratina-Origin
Types

Ghost/Dragon

Abilities

Levitate

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

150/120/100/120/100/90

Total

680

Base Species

Giratina

craggy dagger
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120 in attacks (origin) vs 120 in defenses (regular)

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hp, speed are the same

jade dust
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@solid frigate also I respect your pfp and name. Xenoblade 2 is one of my favorite games of all time

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I spent like 800 hours on it

solid frigate
jade dust
jade dust
solid frigate
solid frigate
jade dust
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What does swamp do?

solid frigate
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and Swamp lowers speed?

jade dust
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Ah

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Funny if then the opponent uses trick room

solid frigate
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but then again it does not matter cuz the only starters here that are good is incin and Rilla and Primarina is kinda not great in this regulation

jade dust
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Yeah water fairy is really good and she has good spc atk but her hp and def are lacking

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If she had better hp and def she would definitely get more use

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Liquid voice is a nice ability too

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Water hypervoice

solid frigate
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its not really that i sjust

If you wanna use a Water Type in this Reg,Use Either Pelipper,Urshifu and Kyogre

jade dust
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Or Ogerpon

solid frigate
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Ogerpon Water Stonks are dropping

jade dust
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I have seen rock Ogerpon a lot recently

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Isn’t that the worst one

craggy dagger
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60% fickle beam-
i had fun with that

craggy dagger
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it’s a good check into calyice

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and fire types

jade dust
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I mean grass rock isn’t bad

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It covers a lot of each other’s weaknesses

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But in terms of ability and Terra bost

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Def is kinda meh boost

jade dust
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Grass rock is weak to ice, flying and fighting right? But it hits back ice and flying too

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Oh wait it’s weak to steel too

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And bug?

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Yeah rock doesn’t resist bug for a reason

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Well 5 weaknesses

solid frigate
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why did i suddenly thought about Guard Split with Gratina-

solid frigate
craggy dagger
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yep

lilac sapphire
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Anyone got recommendations for a plug in counter to SCaly? Probably having the most difficultly handling that mon atm

craggy dagger
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sucker punch chien pao, tailwind support with electro drift miraidon, fiery wrath galarian moltres

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galarian moltres is my personal go to

solid frigate
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I'll Make the Origin form Team then,got an Idea with Gastrodon

jade dust
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What item for farigiaf

gentle cragBOT
solid frigate
jade dust
azure ether
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is the rest of the team Tornadus, Landorus, and Overqwil by any chance?

solid frigate
jade dust
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Well overquill is a good idea

chrome knot
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@craggy dagger guess what

mighty stump
chrome knot
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yes awhile ago

mighty stump
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did u win

balmy glen
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no

mighty stump
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Dam

chrome knot
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no

solid frigate
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finally my PC is back to normal

jade dust
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Lol that was gg

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Failed to KO my cresselia while I parting shot into caly ice

solid frigate
unborn sequoia
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thats hilarious

solid frigate
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this is just me with my restricteds choice

solid frigate
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i have to make competitive Memes on my choices fr

molten oasis
jade dust
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Which can be good

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It has better stats except hp

molten oasis
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lunala is considered better due to its ability

jade dust
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I used nekro luna in my trick room team back in Sword with my caly ice

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Was nice to have 2 restricted

jade dust
solid frigate
chrome knot
upbeat quail
dapper crag
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Ability: Shadow Shield

If this Pokemon is at full HP, damage taken from attacks is halved.

upbeat quail
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Been steadily climbing ladder here with this team

dapper crag
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Ability: Prism Armor

This Pokemon receives 3/4 damage from supereffective attacks.

upbeat quail
dapper crag
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Ability: Full Metal Body

Prevents other Pokemon from lowering this Pokemon's stat stages.

nocturne holly
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Isn’t that just clear body

cyan smelt
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Yes

craggy dagger
chrome knot
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i sometimes wonder why people run the sets they do

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until i scroll to the bottom where it shows the match elo

sharp cobalt
mighty stump
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Lol

next stump
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good morning everyone

chrome knot
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good morning

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dillon do you have champ pts yet for 25 szn

next stump
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nope, there haven't been any illinois events yet

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our first ones are this weekend

chrome knot
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ohhh interesting

molten oasis
lavish fern
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I need two more pokemon for an online team, I got a hydrapple, ceruledge, hisuian zoroark, and a primarina

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Any suggestions?

glad imp
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Would anyone be willing to give me a second opinion on a team i'm designing?

glad imp
next stump
chrome knot
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@next stump patcon farig variant is kinda heat

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tho i need a new bolt spread its too slow

next stump
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send the pokepaste link

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thats a lot of text

glad imp
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ok lol

chrome knot
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yeah pls delete that lmao

glad imp
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Mb 😅

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where exactly do i find this link?

next stump
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at the bottom of the teambuilder on showdown, click create pokepaste

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and then send that URL

glad imp
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ok

craggy dagger
glad imp
craggy dagger
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swarm scizzor hm

glad imp
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does it have swarm? i thought i put technichian

craggy dagger
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its set as swarm but i assume you want to put technichian cause its banded with lower than base 60 moves

glad imp
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yeah

craggy dagger
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minus u turn :3

glad imp
#

well we found the first problem 😅

nocturne holly
chrome knot
#

patrick connors

nocturne holly
#

the cir naic team right

craggy dagger
#

the EV's on ogerpon are interesting if you're planning to use ogerpon as more of a support-
Though i think if you're running attackpon then you're fine

nocturne holly
chrome knot
#

peli

upbeat quail
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Man, Choice Scarf Lando-I has been doing some work for me lately.

glad imp
nocturne holly
torn parrot
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I feel like weezing deserves to win worlds I love him

solid frigate
dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 800: Necrozma-Dawn-Wings
Types

Psychic/Ghost

Abilities

Prism Armor

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

97/113/109/157/127/77

Total

680

Base Species

Necrozma

glad imp
#

what do tailwind setting tornadus usually run?

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moves wise

solid frigate
#

Bleakwind Storm,Taunt/Rain Dance,Protect

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sometimes even Snowscape or Sunny Day

next stump
# glad imp https://pokepast.es/afdc55c39770646d

sorry I got caught up with work:

  • Miraidon set is standard and solid, nothing much to say there.

  • Not entirely sure what Scizor is on the team for. It does pressure the grass types that resist Miraidon, but I feel like there are better options that do the same thing.

  • Incineroar is a solid choice on these teams, but if you do opt to replace Scizor with something like Chi-Yu, this slot can be Iron Hands pretty easily.

  • I really don't think offensive Farig is great in this meta. I've tried it myself but it feels like the Throat Spray set is too slow to get set up, especially when Farig is mostly on these types of teams to enable Miraidon

  • I feel like Ogerpon Rock fits the team more than Ogerpon Water. It gives you an inbuilt focus sash, the ability to pressure stuff like Calyrex-Ice, and just overall fits the offensive dynamic of the team more than Ogerpon Water.

  • I am not sure what Regieleki is doing on this team TBH. It does benefit from Electric Terrain, but you really don't need that when Miraidon is sooooo strong itself. This slot would probably be better off being something like Whimsicott that can set tailwind, pressure with Encore, and threaten Raging Bolt with Moonblast that the team otherwise struggles a bit into.

nocturne holly
torn parrot
#

@strange fjord i climbed high toddaayy

little plank
#

So got the zama team I'm using up to 1800 on showdown. Made it on cart and ended up losing game one in pokeball tier lmfao. Not sure why I found it so funny but I did.

torn parrot
#

damnnnn!!!

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NICE JOB!

next stump
nocturne holly
glad imp
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I added eleki cause i wanted pure offensive power, thought his spatk stat was higher tbh

next stump
#

Farig is almost mandatory on specs Miraidon teams

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it's really weak to fake out otherwise, unless you run something like Ghost tera

glad imp
#

ok

chrome knot
glad imp
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so prob run electric seed or smth rather than throat spray?

solid frigate
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Yep

next stump
#

but also between CIR teams right now

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currently testing out the electabuzz one

solid frigate
glad imp
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thats wild

solid frigate
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i mean its +1 Defense

glad imp
#

i assume w 252 health evs

solid frigate
#

252 Atk Sword of Ruin Chien-Pao Throat Chop vs. +1 228 HP / 100 Def Farigiraf: 134-162 (59.8 - 72.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

nocturne holly
glad imp
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dang

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i was not farmiliar with palindrome girraffes game

chrome knot
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i changed a few teras around, added farig & completely redid my bolt spread

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bc losing the bolt speed race is match losing at times

glad imp
next stump
#

The first major tournament of the Regulation G format has concluded and Miraidon was able to win the entire thing! Rajan Bal was able to defeat nearly 700 other competitors to take home the Indianapolis Regional Championships with a team centered around Choice Specs Miraidon. With Electric Terrain, Choice Specs, Electric Tera, and some of the mo...

▶ Play video
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check this team out for inspiration

next stump
chrome knot
glad imp
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would it be better to run close combat on the scizor set?

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rather than brick break?

solid frigate
#

Brick Break is good in dealing with Screens honestly

dapper crag
#
Move: Brick Break

If this attack does not miss, the effects of Reflect, Light Screen, and Aurora Veil end for the target's side of the field before damage is calculated.

Type

Fighting

Category

Physical

Power

75

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

bold geode
#

Close Combat better, although honestly it's probably better to not use Scizor? I haven't seen one in quite a while

solid frigate
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especially that team does not have a Ground type to abuse Discharge

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protect eh it works but Miraidon is choice locked so it needs to spam

glad imp
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Im going to make fari tera ground

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idk why i feel like scizor's coverage is good here

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maybe its just choice band/technician/stab bullet punch sounds too good

next stump
#

You gotta think about the common pokemon and what you're actually hitting with that though

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Flutter Mane usage is down, Calyrex-Ice still loses to fire types like Chi-Yu, etc.

solid frigate
solid frigate
glad imp
#

would gholdengo work instead of scizor?

solid frigate
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personally not a fan of that

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cuz you mostly run Tera Normal against Calyrex Shadow or something that benefit from it like Tera Water or Tera Fairy

Tera Ground Ghouldengo sounds a bit wrong

glad imp
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idk i was thinking assault vest tera fairy

next stump
#

you can test with Gholdengo but I also don't really see how it's better than something like Chi-YU

glad imp
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i might sound dumb as sh!t rn tho

next stump
#

you don't sound dumb, that's what this chat is for

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plus pokemon isn't objective, other stuff can work but you have to just try it out and see

solid frigate
glad imp
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ok

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ill try some matches with chi yu and gholdengo see what i like more

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what do chi yu sets normally look like?

solid frigate
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Wait lemme get one

next stump
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on those teams, normally choice scarf with heat wave/overheat/dark pulse/4th move

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tera ground for discharge immunity or tera ghost for fake out immunity

solid frigate
#

Jade Lava (Chi-Yu) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Beads of Ruin
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 212 HP / 4 Def / 52 SpA / 4 SpD / 236 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Heat Wave
  • Dark Pulse
  • Overheat
  • Snarl

This one is mine from the Terapagos Team

glad imp
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ok

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why both heat wave and overheat?

solid frigate
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Heat Wave for Spread Damage and Overheat as a Nuke Button

glad imp
#

ok

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cause heat wave is really 95 divided by 2 right?

next stump
#

spread moves are 75% as strong

glad imp
#

ok

solid frigate
little plank
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Fite tera reshirim is rough to deal with as zamazenta lmao

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Had light screen and rain up and still almost 1hko my zama

solid frigate
strange fjord
nocturne holly
dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 643: Reshiram
Types

Dragon/Fire

Abilities

Turboblaze

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/120/100/150/120/90

Total

680

rustic mountain
solid frigate
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fr

rustic mountain
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genuinely one of the best for newer and experienced players alike imo

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really bridges that gap w/ his content

solid frigate
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its just his content is very genuine opinions from him

rustic mountain
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him and wolfey were the 2 vgc guys i watched wen i first started

nocturne holly
#

Tryna get like him fr

rustic mountain
solid frigate
nocturne holly
#

I wouldn’t call cybertron or wolfey clickbait

rustic mountain
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yea im not a huge fan of moxies content but he def knows the game

solid frigate
rustic mountain
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hes not misleading w/ using off the wall teams

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so idk if id call him clickbait, hes just in a different wheelhouse

solid frigate
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and he does have respectable results so i trust Moxie

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others are just....

Yeah

rustic mountain
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yea hes a good player

nocturne holly
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Yea def

solid frigate
#

we do love another wo chien supporter in our community

rustic mountain
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nd wen he uses troll shit like hes an honest on what its use cases are so i respect that

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some ppl really do have clickbait shit

nocturne holly
#

His videos remind me of wolfes rather cybertron

rustic mountain
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i personally dont think moxie does it, and if he does its not much

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he also has really good thumbnails

solid frigate
rustic mountain
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it is

solid frigate
nocturne holly
rustic mountain
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which is why i dont watch most vgc content haha

nocturne holly
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i really hate jamee baeks content tho

solid frigate
rustic mountain
nocturne holly
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that’s a lot of vgc content rn 😢

solid frigate
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most of them are misleading

rustic mountain
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yea i think a lot can survive off the strength of being a good player but like if imma watch it its gta be informative and entertaining

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atleast 1 of those

solid frigate
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i feel like the clickbait ones are just don't really have that deep knowledge or if they do they just idk

nocturne holly
#

I think cybertron is peak vgc content tho
Wolfe is great but a lot of of his popularity is his world champ status and imo isn’t as in depth as aarons
He’s still great tho

rustic mountain
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im mainly just cybertron and tub takes, sableyevgc every now and then and wolfey sometimes (depends what kind of wolfey content)

solid frigate
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Wolfey has in depth stuff,just go to Patreon

rustic mountain
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oh joeux9 sometimes too, sometimes his vids are decent info

solid frigate
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tbf he did took that as a full time job

rustic mountain
solid frigate
solid frigate
nocturne holly
rustic mountain
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oh ray rizzo i watched occasionally but some of his vids didnt catch my interest

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that 1 video on whose the best ever was cool

solid frigate
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i think Ray Rizzo content is at least reliable in some extent,its not clickbait

rustic mountain
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nah hes not like that

solid frigate
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like 3 times world champion man come on

rustic mountain
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idt its possible in the modern vgc era

solid frigate
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its a hard task to do,let alone old World Champs like Wolfey

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the Meta game shifted too fast

nocturne holly
rustic mountain
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yea its tough af to do once

solid frigate
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plus the metagame shifted too fast during gen 8-9

rustic mountain
rustic mountain
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maybe 2023 u could argue w/ reg d being a new format but yea

solid frigate
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oml i can't stress enough

rustic mountain
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swsh had decent popularity for comp

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not sv level but it was the precursor

solid frigate
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yeah i agree

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tho despite Gen 9 being so fast

I do love the diversity of teams

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like in reg F there are plenty of archetypes

rustic mountain
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reg f was pretty diverse, reg e i think as well

nocturne holly
#

It went up in diversity after reg c

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I think reg c was just variants of palabalance

rustic mountain
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idk reg a and b were pretty diverse

solid frigate
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Yeah agree

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actually all of gen 9 is diverse to say the least

nocturne holly
rustic mountain
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yea even reg d gets flack but it wasnt just torn/urshi tho those were the top guys

solid frigate
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yeah cuz Cress Luna is also Popular during the time

nocturne holly
#

Yea

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I miss the days when hands was the best FO user

solid frigate
#

same

rustic mountain
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they need to give us a good water starter that has fake out to complete the trifecta

nocturne holly
#

Frrr

solid frigate
rustic mountain
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triple fake out fwg core ASbigBrain

solid frigate
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Blastoise has fake out btw

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just saying

nocturne holly
#

none of the water starters have been that good right?

rustic mountain
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yea but its blastoise

rustic mountain
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nothing rilla incin level

nocturne holly
#

I mean like incin or rilla levels

rustic mountain
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nah

solid frigate
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blastoise is like the guy who wanna be strong as heck but can't cuz gamefreak moment

nocturne holly
#

yea lol

dapper crag
#
Move: Crush Grip

Power is equal to 120 * (target's current HP / target's maximum HP), rounded half down, but not less than 1.

Type

Normal

Category

Physical

Power

0

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

rustic mountain
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stoise was ok in swsh for a cppl formats but nothing like rilla incin

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gen 10 is the time

solid frigate
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i mean who decided to give Blastoise Water Spout Lol

molten oasis
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For blastoise?

rustic mountain
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no for a good water starter

nocturne holly
#

tbh there’s not much reason to use a water starter let alone water Mon other than kyogre or shifu

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Like you’d need a BROKEN water starter to compete with them

solid frigate
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yeah Water Starters Stonks are sad

molten oasis
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Primarina is probably the best one we have, maybe gen 10

rustic mountain
solid frigate
#

and singles Player if you say Greninja,thats only been good in XY times due to Water+Grass Pledge with Venusaur and Good Fast taunt in Gen 6

dapper crag
#
Move: Water Pledge

If one of the user's allies chose to use Fire Pledge or Grass Pledge this turn and has not moved yet, it takes its turn immediately after the user and the user's move does nothing. If combined with Fire Pledge, the ally uses Water Pledge with 150 power and a rainbow appears on the user's side for 4 turns, which doubles secondary effect chances and stacks with the Serene Grace Ability, except effects that cause flinching can only have their chance doubled once. If combined with Grass Pledge, the ally uses Grass Pledge with 150 power and a swamp appears on the target's side for 4 turns, which quarters the Speed of each Pokemon on that side. When used as a combined move, this move gains STAB no matter what the user's type is. This move does not consume the user's Water Gem, and cannot be redirected by the Storm Drain Ability.

Type

Water

Category

Special

Power

80

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

rustic mountain
#

yea gren didnt see the same play as meowscarada did in early gen 9 cuz it lacked a move like flower trick

solid frigate
#

yeah agree,i do love Greninja,its my fav but like

Its just not it chief

rustic mountain
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same for me w/ sceptile

solid frigate
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At least Sceptile got something with Shed Tail,I'm using it in the draft League

nocturne holly
rustic mountain
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i mean draft league sure

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but in general its tough to use

solid frigate
nocturne holly
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Lol

solid frigate
#

Greninja just barely above it

#

and Flutter Mane

FUCKING EXISTS

little plank
# nocturne holly Reshiram or kyurem white?

Reshiram lol I'm 17-2 right now one of my 2 losses was to reshiram didn't really have an answer to it 😅 i brought pelliper because I knew it was going to fusion flare but figured with light screen and rain zama could take a couple of them. I was very wrong

little plank
#
  • he tera fired lol
nocturne holly
#

100bp
+stab too
Lol

solid frigate
#

Fusion Flare of Blue Flame tho

little plank
#

And my zama is tera grass so was just rough I think my only other option on my team would have been bringing bolt but decided not to in favor of chain pao

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Which ever one don't see to many reshirams

solid frigate
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idk as well

little plank
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I'm really considering putting snarl on my bolt though in favor of thunderbolt

solid frigate
molten oasis
#

The bully monke stuff gets less funny every time I see it

rustic mountain
solid frigate
rustic mountain
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better then nothing yea

foggy lodge
#

I really like volt switch on bolt

#

But it depends on what the team needs at the end of the day

solid frigate
nocturne holly
solid frigate
#

yeah looks standard

#

tho Incin with that amount of Attack seems... weird cuz its not Flare Blitz Set

nocturne holly
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Yea I need an incin set lol

#

was just using the same one I normally use

solid frigate
#

Incineroar @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 HP / 156 Def / 100 SpD
Impish Nature

  • Will-O-Wisp
  • Knock Off
  • Fake Out
  • Parting Shot

If its non attacking AV set then this probably,used it a lot

gentle cragBOT
solid frigate
#

gonna play one more game of Miraidon

solid frigate
#

and Urshifu's Close Combat in -1

chrome knot
#

252+ Atk Calyrex-Ice Rider High Horsepower vs. 244 HP / 4 Def Incineroar: 154-182 (76.6 - 90.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

#

you dont need much to live cir hhp :v

solid frigate
#

its just insurance lel

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+1 252+ Atk Calyrex-Ice High Horsepower vs. 252 HP / 156+ Def Incineroar: 180-212 (89.1 - 104.9%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO

chrome knot
#

if its +1 there is no chance in hell this incin is still healthy

solid frigate
#

yeah ikik

chrome knot
#

drooling on my keyboard and pressing buttons tbh

jade dust
#

Thoughts about this rain team?

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I don’t have intimidate, fake out or wide guard which is something that I don’t like

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But I didn’t have space for it

calm gulch
#

i tagged the wrong person help

trail rock
#

😭😭😭😭

calm gulch
#

that’s mb lmao

jade dust
#

I was thinking in putting hitmontop

craggy dagger
#

mrrrp-?

craggy dagger
nocturne holly
# jade dust https://pokepast.es/c488e72fa15999a5

Ok so
Kyogre - lefties is alright on it but I prefer something like av or specs or scarf even mystic water
Archa - I think you could prob invest more into sp def and sp atk and tera fairy imo
Torn - max sp atk usually also runs max spe with sash and ghost Tera for fake outs. U turn isn’t really great on it you could run rain dance in case Kroger’s rain ends
Ogerpon - I haven’t played with it much
Overqwil - also haven’t played with this much but liquidation over waterfall and watershifu clild be better over it
Fari - if you want FO imo it’d be over fari something like incin

solid frigate
#

AV is better,tho this team looks like Mystic Water or Specs Kyogre team

nocturne holly
#

Yea HO

#

Rilla would also work over ogerpon for FO too

rustic mountain
#

randbats is hilarious

dapper crag
#
Move: Substitute

The user takes 1/4 of its maximum HP, rounded down, and puts it into a substitute to take its place in battle. The substitute is removed once enough damage is inflicted on it, or if the user switches out or faints. Baton Pass can be used to transfer the substitute to an ally, and the substitute will keep its remaining HP. Until the substitute is broken, it receives damage from all attacks made by other Pokemon and shields the user from status effects and stat stage changes caused by other Pokemon. Sound-based moves and Pokemon with the Infiltrator Ability ignore substitutes. The user still takes normal damage from weather and status effects while behind its substitute. If the substitute breaks during a multi-hit attack, the user will take damage from any remaining hits. If a substitute is created while the user is trapped by a binding move, the binding effect ends immediately. Fails if the user does not have enough HP remaining to create a substitute without fainting, or if it already has a substitute.

Type

Normal

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Snatch

Affected by Snatch.

jade dust
nocturne holly
craggy dagger
#

imo cloak is better util

chrome knot
#

ur call

nocturne holly
cyan smelt
#

Isn't dark tera better for torn to block encore stuff

nocturne holly
#

Nothing wrong with cloak but opt for a bulkier set

craggy dagger
#

run whimsy

#

whimsy is just better

chrome knot
#

the set is normal

#

bar the elephant in the room

craggy dagger
#

what’s the elephant-

chrome knot
#

uturn tornadus

nocturne holly
chrome knot
#

moveset.

#

not spread.

nocturne holly
#

I never said anything about the moveset

#

ig set better choice of words could be sued

chrome knot
#

set = moveset, spread = ev spread

jade dust
#

And I don’t have to waste my tera just to prevent fake out, I can use it on Ogerpon or Kyoger for more damage

#

What I do consider is rain dance instead of U turn

#

Oh and lmao, I didn’t mean to invest in Spc Def, I meant speed

foggy lodge
molten oasis
foggy lodge
#

lol

#

Yeah but Regieleki exploded to kill atleast another pokemon

#

Not just for a clean switch

molten oasis
#

Fair enough

solid frigate
molten oasis
#

Oh yk what just clicked for me

#

Rilla and shifu had more usage in the tournament that just happened than incin

jade dust
#

Tera normal explosion

jade dust
#

When you have limited turns in tailwind and trick room, you sometimes want your support to get KO so you can switch in your sweeper clean

molten oasis
#

Used to be common in the past

jade dust
#

Gotta admit it caught me off guard lmao

#

The final gambit anhilape I expect it more so I switch in incineroar or something that I don’t need much to win the game

#

Rather lose inci or amoonguss than my caly

dapper crag
#
Move: Explosion

The user faints after using this move, even if this move fails for having no target. This move is prevented from executing if any active Pokemon has the Damp Ability.

Type

Normal

Category

Physical

Power

250

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

nocturne holly
#

I’m p sure incin survives after an intim right

#

Could be wrong

jade dust
#

Well

#

He would if metagross didn’t have clear body

nocturne holly
#

mhm

#

Wbt eleki

molten oasis
#

Do you guys think CSR is fun to play with?

jade dust
#

Csr?

nocturne holly
#

Yea

molten oasis
#

Calyrex shadow rider

jade dust
#

Ah

molten oasis
jade dust
#

I don’t like it lol

molten oasis
#

What’s the appeal

jade dust
#

I like caly ice more

molten oasis
#

I don’t understand it

jade dust
nocturne holly
#

just like outspeeding and nuking everything
I prefer die because imo it’s more challenging to play csr is cool

molten oasis
#

I’m a very “I like playing off meta/anti meta” person but still

molten oasis
#

Zac being the face of anti meta rn imo

nocturne holly
#

Zac is fun

#

imo most fun restricted

#

then cir

molten oasis
#

It’s my favorite next to kyurem

nocturne holly
#

Zac is like also really good with good partners

molten oasis
#

Kyurem is really cool and fun to play

nocturne holly
#

I wanna see it win a regional

jade dust
molten oasis
#

Maybe next reg

nocturne holly
#

I hate kyurem

molten oasis
#

Why?

jade dust
#

Like Swampert. I love swampert and learns wide guard

molten oasis
#

It’s a 170 base spa spread attack spammer

jade dust
#

And most people don’t expect wide guard swampert

molten oasis
#

Like CSR

dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 898: Calyrex-Shadow
Types

Psychic/Ghost

Abilities

As One (Spectrier)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/85/80/165/100/150

Total

680

Base Species

Calyrex

nocturne holly
#

It has like decent bulk too

molten oasis
#

Yea I think it’s defenses should be nerfed to the ground

jade dust
#

I tried using O Dialga but it’s bad sadly

molten oasis
#

Force it to be a frail attacker

nocturne holly
#

Yea

dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 898: Calyrex-Ice
Types

Psychic/Ice

Abilities

As One (Glastrier)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/165/150/85/130/50

Total

680

Base Species

Calyrex

molten oasis
#

Bulky CSR is a dumb Mon to fight

jade dust
molten oasis
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It doesn’t

nocturne holly
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Yea esp with friend guard

jade dust
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Who has friend guard

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Besides the stone of swss

nocturne holly
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Clefaory it’s common for csr

jade dust
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Ah

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Clefairy is kinda frail tho

daring pumice
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Nick naming lots of my shinies, need Crawdaunt nickname ideas

nocturne holly
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With eviolite is pretty bulky

daring pumice
molten oasis
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Clef is extremely bulky

jade dust
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Not really, not compared to porygon 2 or dusklops

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 35: Clefairy
Type

Fairy

Abilities

Cute Charm, Magic Guard, Friend Guard (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

70/45/48/60/65/35

Total

323

molten oasis
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yes they are bulkier

jade dust
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Yeah those stats are trash in comparison

last bridge
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Heya would anyone be able to help me do a standard zamazenta set ev wise. Should u max def it? Not rly right

jade dust
nocturne holly
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Not as much as clefaory lol

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Friend guard and follow me

molten oasis
glad imp
molten oasis
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Especially over farigiraf

last bridge
gentle cragBOT
glad imp
jade dust
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What item to use on swampert to deal more damage, along with using wide guard

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Muscle band?

glad imp
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life orb if it's tanky enough to eat the extra damage

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is it support or sweeper?

jade dust
shadow wind
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Finally can say I've hit top 500 on both showdown ladder and Cart ladder!

jade dust
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But life orb is a good idea

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Just won’t be as tanky

molten oasis
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My suggestion is obvious (don’t use it) but life orb is best for what you’re asking for

glad imp
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yeah i'd test it on showdown or smth to see if you prefer life orb or muscle band

jade dust
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Muscle band is just 10% right?

glad imp
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i think so

molten oasis
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Do not use muscle band

glad imp
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ik life orb is 30

molten oasis
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Muscle band sucks

jade dust
dapper crag
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Item: Muscle Band

Holder's physical attacks have 1.1x power.

molten oasis
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Honestly run lando t then lol

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Somewhere

jade dust
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But then I don’t have water

molten oasis
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Run both replace smth else

glad imp
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what do u need water for?

molten oasis
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What’s the team paste?

jade dust
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I recently changed Magnezone for chandelure

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To deal with Zamasenta

molten oasis
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Drop chandelure and swampert for peli and lando t

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Achieves what you want

shadow wind
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Tera fighting Incin?

molten oasis
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I’d suggest Tera ghost incin as well

jade dust
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Lol doesn’t really mater since I never tera incineroar

molten oasis
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It does

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Cuz what happens when you do need to Tera incin

glad imp
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it'll save you from a fake out down the line

molten oasis
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Ghost also allows you to always win fake out wars

jade dust
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I usually tera cresselia or caly

molten oasis
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And dodge body press from zama

jade dust
molten oasis
glad imp
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also just any close combat mon

molten oasis
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There will be situations where you need to Tera something else

jade dust
molten oasis
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Peli deals with zama

jade dust
molten oasis
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Just weather ball/hurricane into it

molten oasis
jade dust
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I had a lot of fighting so I used that

molten oasis
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Trust me change to ghost

glad imp
jade dust
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Yes

molten oasis
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You can grind shards easier if you complete the dex

glad imp
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there are tera crystals everywhere in the terrarium

molten oasis
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You can also farm shards in terrarium

jade dust
molten oasis
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Beat me to it lol

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Fair

jade dust
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I completed the Pokédex of omega ruby, sword and legends arceus

molten oasis
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in general magnezone and seampert aren’t very good, also why do you want eq and rock slide?

jade dust
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So I needed a break from all the grinds

molten oasis
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I understand rock slide but eq isn’t a great move rn with rillaboom everywhere

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As grassy terrain nerfs its damage

jade dust
molten oasis
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You can then bring lando into rilla

glad imp
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what happens if rilla/zama?

molten oasis
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Lando can run Tera flying Tera blast and wipe it off the planet

jade dust
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And they often use sash so I cant 1 shoot it

solid frigate
jade dust
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Tho Im considering using tera water caly

glad imp
solid frigate
jade dust
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Who do I need to change the tera type? Glastrier or caly? How does it even work? I know you keep the moves calyrex has but the evs and nature are glastier's? And the terra type?

solid frigate
jade dust
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So everything is calyrex's stuff? The ivs, evs and terra?

next stump
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yeo

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yep*

jade dust
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Also landorus t in trick room? With 91 speed I feel its gonna get bodied

solid frigate
jade dust
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Yes but I have to fight other tr users too

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Tho I can just not bring landorus

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So thats fair

solid frigate
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we told you that Lando is good in TR when Opponent is tailwinded

And 91 speed is fine in TR

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I mean Dialga is 90 Speed and Palkia is 100 Speed

molten oasis
solid frigate
molten oasis
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av lando probably

solid frigate
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yeah

Tho is scarf lando T stonks or no

molten oasis
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idk

mighty stump
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lando-t 💀

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the falloff is real

molten oasis
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thanks incin

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well not even wait lol

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it just straight up fell off and its other form is better

solid frigate
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RIP Landorus Therian

2012-2018

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2018 is when Intimidate Incin is here so yeah not 2017 kek

molten oasis
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Well idk

foggy lodge
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Nah Lando didn't die in 2018

molten oasis
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He wants eq and rock slide that’s the first thought

foggy lodge
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It won worlds the last year

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Because Inci wasn't in the game

molten oasis
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So it died September 2024 then

foggy lodge
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👍

solid frigate
molten oasis
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It fell off before incin showed up

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To harc

solid frigate
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Lando,Died in 2018 and revived for a short while and died again

molten oasis
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Lando t will be good in formats incin and harc (probably) aren’t around

solid frigate
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bro had to die twice

solid frigate