#competitive_discussion
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Smogon is formats that people use on Pokemon Showdown not run by Pokemon
People play that more than in game singles as 6v6 is better and the doubles format has been the format that official tournaments ran by Pokemon themselves use
Therefore, the in game singles aren't really grabbing that much attention
I think 3v3 is played more just because it’s what is available in game
so little Timmy with his switch may not even know what pokemon showdown is but he can click on Battle Stadium and play there
but anyone (at least in the western world) who’s competitive with singles plays on Showdown with their formats
OU, UU, etc.

#BullyMonke #MonkeAsmr
showdown sadly takes away the fact that I caught my team and it's special LMAOOO
But makes teambuilding way easier
yeah, doesn't matter if the stats suck in game because you can fine tune everything any way you want
I think if you really do enjoy playing in game, give doubles a try. You can try 3v3 singles but it’s very bland IMO and not a lot of skill to it
I've had more fun playing pokemon and finding about the ranked movesets for the pokemons I'm using even during the normal story gameplay. Without that whole aspect it would be too boring and just a children's game, at least beyond a certain playtime
if you think its a children's game,then don't play it
I mean most of us are grown ups yet play a lot of pokemon
yeah
pokemon is an everyones game 
I'll try doubles then but I have mostly just focused on singles movesets and strategies so I'll have to start from scratch, in a way
exactly
rated e for everyone
singles Movesets does not work on Doubles Format cuz some moves are basically Required for a Team
(Protect,Taunt,etc.)
anyways
I like pokemon and I have like 170h in shield and scarlet combined but a single difficulty option would make it seem like a game for all ages instead of just aiming the difficulty level to children or people who never played video games before or people who want an experience where skill and knowledge aren't required
Have you played the DLC wave 2?
when I say children's game, I was only referring to the difficulty level
Because thats quite challenging if you don't overlevel
I'm doing teal mask rn, just completed the paldea pokedex today
i feel like you gotta love Indigo Disk
me when the casual game is not impossible difficulty but aimed toward having a fun and interactive story
anyways,Miraidon does good shit
ok what level is good for indigo disk like I want 0% overleveled, I want it to be like balanced/challenging
so I don't overlevel my favorites
70
Starts at level 70
The only part of the game i really liked was the story
you cannot lock pokemon xp sadly
Shi made me tear up
i mean even overleveled i still struggled against Lacey
Crispin and Amayrs are fine and Drayton i just sweep them
you can have that thing and enjoy it while the players who want a challenge can have what they want if they just introduced difficulty options
i got bailed out bc i made a lurantis super boss team with tera steel blast LOL
like persona games, it can be a visual novel kind of a game with no need to learn the turn-based combat and its mechanics thoroughly. Or on the highest difficulty, you have to try and know a lot of the mechanics and interactions to be able to progress. Doesn't take away from any kind of player and play style
Disquake from Garchomp and Vikavolt for me
In my 2nd run (where i wasn't spamming legends) Lacey, Crispin and Amarys were easy because i had Excadrill and tyranitar with Miraidon and Quaquaval, it took me two tries to beat Drayton
Drayton is easy cuz i might just Ice Beam with Greninja
Most people play smogon and it is 6v6 so i recommend you play in showdown
I kinda wanna do a kyurem white team
I just don’t wanna do a9
I hate playing a9
just run torn then
also
well
i saw a Zacian Team with Pachirisu
you can run torn lol
yeah Landorus just 2HKO a Tera Ground Zac
thats normal for lando lol
yeah that team has Pachirisu,Flutter,Cress andFlygon-
what happened
i don't even need Miraidon
only incin died
usually i would say Amogus but depends on what your MU is lacking
ngl want follow me waterpon
i think it works,as it benefits from Kyogre MU
it’s so good for shifu
i like waterpon
What non restricted dairy and steel types are there
DAIRY TYPES LOL
miltank frrr
i really liking Miraidon rn,might be my main Restricted in Doubles Restricteds cuz Pagos might be worse in Double Restricteds (Just my hot take)
Alcremie fr
real
Well, miltank is an obvious, if unavailable in SV choice
Might do a tr mode for the last two slots
Miraidon Mirror be like
go for it
i think like the early meta Miraidon technically can still use Future Paradox Pokemon,just the wrong ones
cuz people are eyeing on Miraidon Bundle
but technically Iron Hands and debatably, Jugilus and Crown
Hands is good with mirai
Hands and i would debate for Miraidon+Iron Crown
Bug, Dark, Electric, Fairy, Fighting, Fire, Ghost, Grass, Ground, Ice, Normal, Poison, Psychic, Rock, Steel, Stellar
Dragon, Flying, Water
Steel
Bug, Dark, Dragon, Electric, Fire, Flying, Ghost, Grass, Ground, Normal, Psychic, Stellar, Water
Fairy, Fighting, Ice, Poison, Rock
Iron Crown Covers Miraidon's Fairy and Ice Weakness and Resist Dragon
Electric
Fire, Flying, Grass, Steel, Water
Bug, Dark, Fighting, Ghost, Normal, Poison, Psychic, Rock, Stellar
Dragon, Fairy, Ground, Ice
Electric-types cannot be paralyzed.
Poison
Psychic
Dragon, Fairy, Flying, Grass, Ice, Normal, Rock, Steel
Bug, Electric, Fighting, Stellar, Water
Dark, Fire, Ghost, Ground
Steel-types cannot be Poisoned.
Steel-types take no damage from Sandstorm.
sure both hates Ground types
but i think having a Pokemon that can at least soften Calyrex's Draining Kiss and Flutter Mane's Moonblast is huge
Dragon/Ice
Pressure
125/130/90/130/90/95
660
Kyurem-Black, Kyurem-White
Dragon/Ice
Turboblaze
125/120/90/170/100/95
700
Kyurem
https://pokepast.es/e65beb852b0e21eb thoughts on the last two slots? Thinking about blursa and either indeedee or fari but not sure since kyurem doesn’t really benefit from tr
Also thinking of darkshifu
Or maybe even flutter tbh
A9?
ok
hmmmm
tbh blursa is good
i've never had that problem
Wait what’s a good anti tr mon
Would amoonguss and waterpon work on the same team
double grass
why? if anything itd be better because u have another strong mon that can bait out the teras u can subsequently punish
or I could replace waterpon with amoonguss and add watershifu
i think the only overlapping weakness would be flying which isnt all too common atm, id say it depends on the team. incin/urshi/amoongus is a great core tho
https://pokepast.es/e65beb852b0e21eb rough draft
I could do double weather torn with shifu
if ur playing protect the kyruem, go ogerpon
if u want a little more instant offense id say urshi
I’m still undecided on the kyurem set
If specs is probably do protect the kyurem
Av probably add shifu
But would amoonguss work with ogerpon on this?
I’d probably need some more damage as the last slot
i think protecting the kyurem is nice
i think ogerpon is a really solid partner for it
I’d probably try specs kyurem
Just getting up tw and snowball
what about LO
ima try amoonguss with the pon tho
Bug, Dark, Fairy, Fighting, Ghost, Ice, Normal, Psychic, Stellar, Water
Dragon, Electric, Fire, Flying, Grass, Ground, Poison, Rock, Steel
Fire, Water
Dark, Electric, Fairy, Fighting, Ghost, Normal, Poison, Psychic, Rock, Stellar
Bug, Dragon, Flying, Grass, Ground, Ice, Steel
Specs is insane damage tho
Ima do specs
https://pokepast.es/6110f72ba397902c thoughts on the last slot?
I feel weak to rockpon
Suggestions on making it better?
Why do you have snowscape torn
If you have lando LO is the best with it
its the blizzard kyogre team
Ohhhh
or that was a concept that showed up in japan nats
The outbreak event is in a hr right
You could probably do taunt over icy wind on torn and do like ep on lando
get moves on the team
if you're gonna run specs shifu over ogerpon
I want specs to stay alive longer tho
what
specs shifu?
okay i just read it right xd
was gonna say lol
It’s either amoonguss or waterpon tho right
waterpon ia so good for shofu and does decent damage
Amoonguss is also good for shifu and has insane utility
if you're going to run specs kyurem you go HO mode with kyurem chi yu
just do damage
I’m doing av
then waterpon
ok
Ice/Flying
Pressure, Snow Cloak (Hidden)
90/85/100/95/125/85
580
Articuno-Galar
https://pokepast.es/87520ca4914703ae
In a double restricted format, I have created a $390 team. I can't figure out how to get it more expensive
Cresselia or smth from like Pokémon black I think
https://pokepast.es/96f60028c17c8314 thoughts on the last slot? Also need a follow me waterpon spread
Cresselia is included in SwSh DLC and Legends. no extra money needed
Oh yea it’s in legends
The fuck it’s in swsh dlc??
that looks cool-
Dynamax Adventures
Ohhhghhh
Thoughts
if u wana borrow mine
Would I just be better off using an Assault Vest Dragalge? (Don't say don't use Dragalge I love that sea dragon)
Poison/Dragon
Poison Point, Poison Touch, Adaptability (Hidden)
65/75/90/97/123/44
494
you probably wanna use it as a support Mon lol
dont use dragalge
Also can u have your waterpon spread
or what should I calc my own for
WHAT DID I SAY GRRRRRR
Ogerpon-Wellspring @ Wellspring Mask
Ability: Water Absorb
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 204 HP / 76 Atk / 12 Def / 28 SpD / 188 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Ivy Cudgel
- Horn Leech
- Spiky Shield
- Follow Me
Don't use Dragalge
dont use vomit snake
no it’s okay-
What is it calced for?
outspeed lamdo i
https://pokepast.es/create
Flutter??
yes lets create a pokepaste
Shut up
https://pokepast.es/66bd7dfb6c535836 flutter?
sure
Specs or speed control
t wave flutter is something’s I’ve wanted to try
booster speed
Idk I feel I need some more damage output
Lando??? I would say chi yu but I have incin already
Sure
Yea
Tornadus @ Mental Herb
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 228 HP / 164 Def / 52 SpA / 52 SpD / 12 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Bleakwind Storm
- Protect
- Taunt
- Tailwind
Today I actually had a thing I prepared for crit and kill
What’s it calced for?
It takes a +1 astral barrage so the crit neutral life orb one I took wouldn't have killed without a crit
Here
Thxxxxx
.begulajr. has given 1 Gen Rep to campfire__
Is this any good?
Mega lopunny, Agility, Last resort
If not can someone help me cuz I wanna make Lopunny really good since its my favorite Pokémon
Scarf lando has been running around for ohkoing mirai
You're not really in luck then
okay, i still think lorb is better
Since mega evolutions aren't in the game
I'm playing showdown
Oh yeah then that still doesn't look good
Mega lopunny is actually one of the better ones for singles I think?
Normal/Fighting
Scrappy
65/136/94/54/96/135
580
Lopunny
ss
I thought it was better
oops lmfao
Acrobatics, Assurance, Bounce, Brutal Swing, Circle Throw, Close Combat, Covet, Cut, Dig, Dizzy Punch, Double Hit, Double Kick, Drain Punch, Endeavor, Facade, Fake Out, Fire Punch, Flail, Fling, Focus Punch, Frustration, Fury Cutter, Giga Impact, Headbutt, High Jump Kick, Ice Punch, Iron Tail, Jump Kick, Last Resort, Low Kick, Low Sweep, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Natural Gift, Payback, Play Rough, Pound, Power-Up Punch, Quick Attack, Retaliate, Return, Reversal, Rock Smash, Secret Power, Sky Uppercut, Strength, Thunder Punch, Triple Axel, U-turn
Aura Sphere, Blizzard, Charge Beam, Focus Blast, Grass Knot, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Ice Beam, Mirror Coat, Mud-Slap, Round, Shadow Ball, Shock Wave, Snore, Solar Beam, Swift, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Uproar, Water Pulse
After You, Agility, Attract, Baby-Doll Eyes, Baton Pass, Captivate, Charm, Confide, Copycat, Cosmic Power, Defense Curl, Double Team, Encore, Endure, Entrainment, Fake Tears, Flatter, Foresight, Heal Bell, Healing Wish, Helping Hand, Laser Focus, Magic Coat, Mud Sport, Protect, Rain Dance, Rest, Rototiller, Sleep Talk, Splash, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Sweet Kiss, Switcheroo, Teeter Dance, Thunder Wave, Toxic, Work Up
A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Lopunny-Mega.
uhm
It's the scrappy return and close combat
Singles
I'm assuming not
Gen 6 anything goes
uh, then idk
Dang I don't think anyone here knows about that
Power is equal to the greater of (user's Happiness * 2/5), rounded down, or 1.
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Physical
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20 (32)
Copied by Mirror Move.
Makes contact.
Or almost anyone at all
It's around 108 I think
yea
Yea p sure
-calc
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-calc 252 * (2/5)
Result: 100.800000
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Yeah this
Bot spam oops
Yeah this is why people were sad return is gone
It's just a nerf to normal types
physical ones
idt a relevant physical normal type that would want it has been around
I was about to say ursaluna but there's facade
yep
I mean I don't think anything relevant that would use it but maybe some neat off meta or niche picks
Something like snorlax could have used it
ig
At least they made double edge a tm now
Snorlax would’ve liked it
Bide, Bite, Body Press, Body Slam, Brick Break, Bulldoze, Chip Away, Counter, Covet, Crunch, Darkest Lariat, Dig, Double-Edge, Dynamic Punch, Earthquake, Facade, Fire Punch, Fissure, Flail, Fling, Focus Punch, Frustration, Giga Impact, Gunk Shot, Hammer Arm, Hard Press, Headbutt, Heat Crash, Heavy Slam, High Horsepower, Hold Back, Ice Punch, Iron Head, Last Resort, Lick, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Natural Gift, Outrage, Pay Day, Power-Up Punch, Pursuit, Rage, Retaliate, Return, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Tomb, Rollout, Secret Power, Seed Bomb, Seismic Toss, Self-Destruct, Skull Bash, Smack Down, Steel Roller, Stomping Tantrum, Strength, Submission, Supercell Slam, Superpower, Tackle, Take Down, Thunder Punch, Trailblaze, Wild Charge, Zen Headbutt
Belch, Blizzard, Bubble Beam, Chilling Water, Fire Blast, Flamethrower, Focus Blast, Hidden Power, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Incinerate, Mud-Slap, Psychic, Psywave, Round, Shadow Ball, Shock Wave, Snore, Solar Beam, Surf, Tera Blast, Terrain Pulse, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Uproar, Water Gun, Water Pulse, Whirlpool, Zap Cannon
After You, Amnesia, Attract, Belly Drum, Block, Captivate, Celebrate, Charm, Confide, Curse, Defense Curl, Double Team, Encore, Endure, Gastro Acid, Happy Hour, Harden, Helping Hand, Metronome, Mimic, Odor Sleuth, Protect, Psych Up, Rain Dance, Recycle, Reflect, Refresh, Rest, Sandstorm, Screech, Sleep Talk, Snatch, Stockpile, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Swallow, Toxic, Whirlwind, Work Up, Yawn
A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Snorlax.
Double edge and body slam are it’s only stab normal
Ok so
I think a9 is the way to go with kyurem lol
bro finally knew

oh the week of worlds ghimmighoul raids come back
I'll do it later
yup
means shiny gimmi is coming back
Who wants to it as a group cuz i might as well forgot what it looks
it’s whiter
but Nova,its in a Tera Raid Den and its fucking blinding my eyes
yeah
@chrome knot
i won my first opl set
i lowk double clicked by accident in g1 which caused me to lose 💀
opl-?
time to kill some Pika
its a draft league i believe
you mean the one in This server's Sub Server?
nah idts, theres a lot of team draft leagues
i think the sub server does like a mon draft but it isnt team based
Beedrill:Ah shit
Which of the 3 emmas are u
@solid frigate finding my teams two largest weaknessess are clear smog / haze and weezing lol
which make sense lol
meanwhile my team does not really like Cold Temperatures
Emma B 
Chill
how am i gonna be chill when i was asked to give someone's girlfriend more privilege but my girlfriend gets absolutely none
Idk the situation
so basically my server has roles and my friend's Girlfriend alrready has an Unique Role from him and my girlfriend has none
And he demands more cuz of Jealousy
Spend less time in that server
i was expecting a real reason to be angry ngl but if its just this bruh turn off the screen for a bit
its my server,i am the owner.
the funny thing is that
its not even my problem

i'm just gonna let my anger out on NPCs
because i am talking to a brick wall again
I mean you can't control how you feel anyways
and it actually pisses me off cuz its also about my girlfriend
But it's better to just think about something else
if they’re a brick wall, just shrug it off 
What are the special attacker options for trick room besides ursaluna blood moon
Since I already plan on using regular ursaluna and can’t use both
Factually incorrect. You are 100% in control of how you feel/act, and no one else.
Has anyone else been experiencing more than the average game disconnections lately?
Wondering if it’s my connection
I use cresselia, incineroar, primarina, abomasnow, calirex ice and ursaluna/garlnaclac or whatever was his name
dont use abomasnow
I always liked hands too
abomasnow is pretty bad
Abomasnow is to have a grass immune to amoonguss and that puts snow
Calyrex benefits from snow
its still bad
And gives weather control so I don’t get full power eruptions from torkal
ninetales/prankster is rly better
you die to eruption anyway
What prankster learns snow?
tornadus
It takes away the sun still
you still die to eruption
And I can set aurora veil
ninetales, plus eruption kills you
Ninetales is fast tho so she’s bad in trick room
just beat a Groudon with Miraidon Team
thats just not true
yea its not great in tr but a9 is also by far the better snow setter
and you're slower than a decent amount of things inside tr
cuz this Speed Tiers 120 is the Median rn
which is fucking hilarious
cuz Gen 6 is always 100
same with Gen 7
btw, on the discussion about tr sweepers, a mon that seems rly promissing is clawitzer. It deals big damage, and is one of the slowest water types, with just 59. Also has good coverage
Why do people ask for advice then immediately reject the advice given
I use Abomasnow to counter Kyoger too, that gives me grass coverage too. Energy ball to delete Kyoger while resisting water spout and taking away the rain
I asked for a special attacker
you mean Water types or just TR in General

hmmm i don't agree
you wish that would delete a kyogre with that mid asf special atack stat
But anyways it doesn't has to do with comp
against a special tank
water types
Yeah but I like primarina for fairy as well and water hypervoice
primarina is just not great
It deals at least like 70% of its hp
i guess that works but Primarina is generally better,just not good in this Format
Decent in Reg F tho
prove it
Grass/Ice
Snow Warning, Soundproof (Hidden)
90/92/75/92/85/60
494
Abomasnow-Mega
i cannot believe that has better atack stats than a9 wtf
you can use a damage calc here's one https://nerd-of-now.github.io/NCP-VGC-Damage-Calculator/
im not- alright
Abomasnow has slightly better spc atk
More bulky too
but if you're gonna ask for advice and reject it idk if i should even try
imo they both suck
But a9 IS MILES BETTER THAN ABOMASNOW
It's still REALLY underwhelming
😡
and a9 has better bulk due to a better typing
and higher spD
snow buff boosts its defnese making it deceptively bulky
i don't know, it looks squishy if you compare stats
What even is the team
Ice/Fairy
Snow Cloak, Snow Warning (Hidden)
73/67/75/81/100/109
505
Ninetales
It’s actually kinda tanky with veil and snow boosting def
+Intimidate :>
Both get 1 shot by their times 4 weaknesses
I don't know, veil is nice but it costs you tempo
What does aboma do tho lol
what even is the team
talking about alolan ninetales not abomasnow
i want you to give me an example of a mon that doesnt die to a 4x weakness
Abomasnow does 2 things, puts the snow and aurora veil and gives me grass type
Mons that don't hve 4x weaknesses
Yea I know lmao
comparing them is how you talk about them
Maybe Cresselia moonblast against Urshifu Dark?
was i talking to you?
Now yes
so no before, cool
kek
Someone needs a snickers
have fun with that you clearly dont care about waht we gotta say
And that’s a strong special attacker
Bolt is good in tr if you want electric lol
its also fine in TR
Yes I need steel mainly
can you show the teammm bro
You already are getting railed by eruption steel doesn't rly fit

are ya always grumpy ?
Nah I bring Primarina if they have Torkoal and switch into abomasnow and use hypervoice
maybe maybe not is it any of your business
That is a full power liquid voice that deletes torkoal
cause you always sound grumpy ngl
Torkoal always moves first in tr
cool
Yeah but primarina resists fire
Just her, really
pokemon supposed to be fun just sayin
Abomasnow might die but torkoal too
Torkoal has a partner
Ursa bm is slower
alright so we're playing to have fun, thats true
Primarina has high spc def as well
my brain cells
Hey Dillon 
however you ask for advice on a team i fail to understand why you aren't gonna expect criticism
hello 😄
if there's things that would be better in spots im gonna say it
honestly i am just gonna chill in SV and stay away from it
if you dont want to take that advice thats on you
advice can be constructive ya know
its a competitive chat
do you compete ?
im gonna provide my thoughts on how to improve teams to be the best they can be
like attending tournaments and shit
i could compete more but yes
thanks for Patting me Eni
which tournament did you attend on the circuit ?
why do you need to know that
Why does it matter if someone regularly attends tournaments
you gonna go look at my results to try to tell me i have no say in the matter?
you'realways grumpy in competitive chat
90% of the time ninetales is better but in this case I have a snow setter and a slow grass for my trick room
are you having fun in tournaments ?
what does that have to do with it?
Toronto, Knoxville, Orlando
Truck room 
Abamoasnow is not used ever
i played in NAIC
wow nice
and every so often i play a limitless tournament
last one i did was a while ago but i got 5th
so you're not on the circuit is what I get
Yeah it’s not good but it’s useful in trick room to put snow and give grass coverage
im over this
It's not good in tr
fr
This is the second time
It pairs well with Calyrex

Me thinks we're at the point in the night where we block each other
Khuja 
i just did, its getting bad
And Kickey, damn
sorry
good timing guys
-# ye you better be
love u both
Funny how he shut up as soon as mods arrived
mm

gm tofu

I am going to kick you
Sen too
gm too
Meet and greet
@chrome knot im playing my match today
Anyone wants to play a BO3 on showdown?
Gl Tofu
later tn
Dude chill, why are you so angry about this lmao. I’m just giving my points of why I prefer abomasnow for this team comp over ninetales. I did consider her but Abomasnow fit the needs of my team better
Good luck son!
thanks mother 🙏
im not qualified to give advice please stop talking to me
Abomasnow is garbage and gets deleted by most mons in the meta
We got comp chat family role pls before gta6 🙏🙏
i have issues
just be less grumpy and more constructive
Drago we spoke about this before, you can have issues and still give advice and recently you’ve definitely worked on them
Time to move on friend
@devout mist Please move on, my advice would be to block each othrr and move on
good idea ty
and im sleepin
gn emma
thats, yea thats fair
don’t worry about being wrong cause attitude is more important than being right
Yeah and all I really want is the snow and aurora veil. If abomasnow gets deleted that’s fine, clean switch into my Calyrex
which hasnt, i can work on attitude
And I start rolling the enemy team
i get thats the issue atm
yeah so its no problem
You're not rolling anyone with primarina and abomasnow
i'd just let him have his fun
Any thoughts on this? https://pokepast.es/e2e8a8784679baec
Abomasnow: probably not. Primarina would need CM or AV
looks fine
specs miraidon is broken, deals so much damage lol
Well also throat spray
i think prima needs cm if anything to work
yeah its fine
av is also alright
Throat Spray is like ok
CM achieves the same thing and AV just has better staying power
Av?
assault vest
Assault Vest
Yes but the power level of the game is also higher
Cmon she isn’t bad
boosting it more is valuable
Water fairy is amazing typing too
no primarina is like okay, its jsut hard to slot over something like pelipper or urshifu rn
She wasn't made to survive a Life Orb Tera Normal Bloodmoon
Night comp chat, it was good stopping by
dies To Miraidon and Bolt anyways
At least Urshifu and Peli have a use
Or a specs electro drift
i think primarina can be okay in a trick room scenario rn but its just hard to use
Araquanid was used for TR right?
the weak physical defense isnt exactly helpful in a physical format either
252+ SpA Life Orb Tera-Normal Ursaluna-Bloodmoon Blood Moon vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Primarina: 138-164 (73.7 - 87.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
yea prima can eat those hits
I really like primarina but I did consider Swampert
I considered swampert for the ground coverage
@jade dust Basically, you can have favourites and preferences in competitive. You just need to have very realistic expectations and that there are solid reasons as to why certain Pokemon aren’t being used.
tr special attacker ground type is bloodmoon rn, id suggest bloodmoon
Tofu what restricted you using now? Is are you just focusing on opl stuff
OPL? No focus atm
How many ground types are being used rn?
Yea opl lol
Although I’m also gonna figure sth out for a local that is upcoming
bloodmoon and lando
Ursaluna BM and Lando-I in some Kyogre teams?
That’s sick gl
I mean even at top level there is plenty of diversity
some teams have regular ursa
We had articuno literally
lando t lurks
I’m gonna cook with terapagos
idt anything else is very relevant rn
Some people were playing Ting-Lu but right after the Indianapolis regional, then i never saw it again lol
Calyrex shadow was called mid during a time too, same miraidon
The diversity is backed up through a lot of testing and justifiable reasons beyond “I like this Pokemon”
I know
And it’s always relative
Abomasnow for example is the grass coverage too
Players do not get to decide when the Pokemon is good: the meta does
I know abomasnow isn’t good
The relative metric is objective
But in my team it fits a role
Honestly idc about the favorites thing, that other guy asking "are you in the circuit" was just rude AF
If it does, then good
dont, monke
just, talk about it elsewhere not here
or not at all that would be best
Just want to make sure players have good expectations going into their games because I’ve had a lot of discouraged new players due to this
All I need is a weather to switch to, snow being the most favorable to me. Adding the grass coverage and aurora veil is a good bonus
and quit over the fact something like Gengar didn’t work
But changing the weather to disrupt my opponent set up is valuable
Okay, but so far the considerations sound somewhat one sided
Calyrex and abomasnow get deleted by kyurem-w
As in, thinking to the current relevant weather setters and team members, how would Abomasnow react to the board state then?
idk about that
Well he does well into Kyoger
Koraidon threatens it, so does Tornadus/Urshifu on rain Kyogre teams
Groudon also still threatens with Heat Crash as well
Nah cuz idiots deserve to be called out at this point
But fuck it what do I know
Other than Tofu and Dillon, no one wants to touch this chat
monke fucking dont please
Just ignore it, it's not worth it

and the bulk, despite being resisted, still doesn’t take Water Spout + Bleakwind
Monke, move on
Yeah but after aurora veil and snow I had it survive a flareblizt from Koraidon lmfao
Eh just throwing in my piece
Goodbye y'all
Tho Koraidon had-1 atk from incineroar
I don't have a good goodbye emote wtf
Well I’m thinking in doing some switches but rn is cresselia, incineroar, abomasnow, calyrex, garnaclac and primarina
I’m thinking in switching the rock salt for base ursaluna
Or Magnezone
I got top 500 in ranked with this team
But I did lack more special coverage or effective ground coverage
Tho earth power in abomasnow helped a bit
One of my considerations is to swap primarina for swampert with wide guard and the salt rock with magnezone
What are their roles on the team supposed to be?
Because you could just play Pelipper/Raging
I don’t really see how you deal with Miraidon
Tera electric cresselia
If miraidon leads I tera cresselia
If they have like, the giraffe as well
Guys
I lead cresselia incineroar and trick room fake out
How can i counter a choice specs miraidon
Rillaboom
Ground types 
Cresselia is my main support with ally switch, lunar blessing and trick room
It destroys Miraidon but lacks of offense
Calyrex the sweeper
Chien Pao gets rid of its terrain
Rillaboom,Landorus (Scarf)
Incarnate
And once my trick room is set, miraidon is easy to deal with
Scarf Lando is great in Miraidon as its outspeeding Miraidon
Since he is moving last
Ngl thats smart
yeah and i used it in my miraidon team against Opposing Miraidon
I made my cresselia to be unkillable so I get my trick room while holding mental herb
Miradion is so meta rn
scarf lando is like very niche.
honestly those things sound fine on paper but it depends on how it is in the reality
Yeah only Kyogre teams
i wouldnt even recommend it in the first place
i mean its good and won the first tournament
Ye
i mean,if it works it works
I hate how good it is
just deal with it
thing with specs miraidon is tthat u need to know its specs.
tthen just then u can like play around it, BM walls it if it already uses electric move
Ground fairy when
it works =/= its good on every team.
its like saying, hey pikachu works as miraidon wall. is it?
i did not say its good on every team-
that thing made me learn to save teras lol
u just said this with no other notes or context
ok i expect you understand it cuz you are better, but i make it scarf just for the Miraidon and Zacian MU,nothing else
yeah and thing is. the one who asked it doesnt know
yoink this l

please
calm-
what did i walk into-

The most awkward matches I have is against other trick room users
Idk what the fuck to do there lmao
I yoinked the rabbit

win
That’s what I hope for
Why can't I battle zamazenta every matchup lmao https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2159470891
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Question, in ranked play, isn’t there only one legendary legal?
Also what legendaries count towards the “only 1 or 2 legendaries” cuz it looks like Urshifu, Ogerpon, Calyrex and Terapagos don’t count
Only 1 restricted pokemon
I know smaller legendaries like cresselia, the dogs or the birds aren’t restricted but
Can have many legendary
What about the dlc ones
Top restricted currently are calyrex shadow calyrex ice terapagosa koraidon kyogre Miradon
I might be missing a few though
So terapagos is restricted?
Yup
But not Urshifu or Ogerpon
They're not restricted
Why only the other dlc ones tho
Box art pokemon
I mean calyrex isn't really boz art is he?
Are Calyrex and terapagos that?
Neither is terapagosa
But anyways
Just look at the vgc rules and you will see qhats restricted and what's not
technically yes since they’re the “box art” for the dlcs
terapagos being the box art for the entire sv dlc
So that’s why terapagos is restricted but not ogerpon
thats how i look at it
i mean if u say it like that DLC part 1 and part 2 have different arts for SV
part 1 features ogerpon
but like yeah, ogerpon isnt restricted
i think you can look around on restricted pokemons in the official website thing?
on which counts as restricted and what not
Pokemon Crystal features Suicune 👀
well yeah but it all builds up into terapagos and blueberry i feel like-
maybe yeah
bst
base stats total
tho bst is not the reason cuz Cosmog and Cosmoem are considered Restricteds
but maybe its just the evolution line or Solgaleo and Lunala
ohhh trueeeeee
wdym from the same evolutionary line makes it a restricted !?
that would be it
yeah,they are restricted as well for that reason.
no shit
my question is-
why has no one tried using that cutie yet 
its got no moves
RIP its moveset
i know i’m just joking-

i guess if you give Cosmoem Body Press then Maybe it can be on meme teams but idk
nova i had a dream last night we fell like 400ft bc elevator broke
Psychic
Sturdy
43/29/131/29/131/37
400
like free falling it was kinda terrifying
awh-
falling is scary
i woke up bc my brain did the falling thing
i hate the feeling of descent and like butterfly in stomach from falling at a quick pace
ok maybe with Body Press it can be a TR Body Press User cuz it has Cosmic Power i remember
That’s hilarious
I like how they broke the rule of legendaries don’t evolve
yeah u died ngl
oh
F
Can anyone give me two more pokemon and the movests for both teams https://pokepast.es/521a668fe2646a5f https://pokepast.es/b08bbdc3c221728c
first team is like very basic template, u can prob just look up at regionals team and find something similar to it, u can try them out
idk what the fuck u are cooking for the second team tho, no restricteds and like idk what gliscor is doing there, is it singles?
Well the second team was just for the first round and after that we are allowing legends but its only two and its double
Then who should i change with gliscor
where's your water kung fu bear
are you playing on Dodrio format? because I don't see a reason why you're using Arcanine when you have Incin just fine for the other
Do you need to level up your pokemon to 100 before competitive play?
need help building whimsicott
not anymore. they can be as low as lv 1 but ideally lv 50 so you can hyper train bad IVs
which evs does whimsicott prefer?
usually max SpA and max Spe if sash
I can’t use Pokémon from my single team
planning on sashing chien pao
does tornadus typically run max speed?
i think whimsicott should probably outspeed max speed torn right? so i can taunt or encore
You want me to send you the banned team?
What team can i use with the pokemon with what you said there and who to replace and movesets ?https://pokepast.es/f85ebbd9b5bc3b71

Hello again
Haven't seen you in a bit
Ehhh not really
Unless it's sash
I think most Torna are bulky
#BullyMonke #MonkeAsmr
Is Farigiraf good with archaludon
#BullyMonke #MonkeASMR?
yessir
Is this good moves? https://pokepast.es/b3457a9d3f2802eb
Pelipper should have Hurricane instead of Dual Wingbeat
Gliscor should have Protect instead of U-Turn
Arcanine Will-o-Wisp or Snarl is a better choice than Scorching sands
and Can i change any pokemon from this one https://pokepast.es/0e016b33593214ac
You need to level up Pokemon to 50 now
Vc?
They no longer get brought up to level for SV
Like in general aside from the hyper training
Rip
Uh sure
👀
Will rejoin soon, just gonna play my match
Water/Ghost
Water Absorb, Cursed Body, Damp (Hidden)
100/60/70/85/105/60
480
No wait, i want to see the movepool
For what?
Bind, Constrict, Dive, Facade, Frustration, Giga Impact, Poison Sting, Poltergeist, Return, Secret Power, Waterfall
Absorb, Blizzard, Brine, Bubble, Bubble Beam, Dark Pulse, Dazzling Gleam, Dream Eater, Energy Ball, Giga Drain, Hex, Hidden Power, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Muddy Water, Night Shade, Ominous Wind, Psychic, Round, Scald, Shadow Ball, Shock Wave, Sludge Bomb, Sludge Wave, Snore, Surf, Water Gun, Water Pulse, Water Spout, Whirlpool, Wring Out
Acid Armor, Attract, Confide, Confuse Ray, Destiny Bond, Double Team, Endure, Flash, Hail, Imprison, Magic Coat, Mist, Pain Split, Protect, Psych Up, Rain Dance, Recover, Rest, Safeguard, Sleep Talk, Spite, Strength Sap, Substitute, Swagger, Taunt, Toxic, Trick, Trick Room, Water Sport, Will-O-Wisp
A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Jellicent.
Why does Jellicent have Water Spout?
Got my Krookodile hit by a water spout from jellicent in pokerogue
that's water sport
It was very weak
Good job @mighty stump
Thanks
no you didn’t see that
so apparently scammers are using the new subtext feature
to add phishing links to message s
which is crazy because it looks pretty believable
What happened?
Fire/Water
Water Absorb
80/110/120/130/90/70
600

Dragon/Ground
Power Construct
216/100/121/91/95/85
708
Zygarde
81% in English literature 💪
Anyways, back to ray team
In the end I think volcarona gives the team more value than incineroar, ofc if It don’t help whilst testing I’ll swap
Nice
@mighty stump let me join and listen while i walk to work
im not in control
@molten oasis @bold geode @dull ibex
Red is in control and yeah we don't know where he at
Rip
Bug/Flying
Swarm, Early Bird, Iron Fist (Hidden)
55/35/50/55/110/85
390
What you guys doing?
I finished a Bo3 in a tournament and listening to a VC
Me and 3 others just abandoned someone in a VC lol
I haven't saved a paste of your team
Looks good
I just sent it
Im thinking of changing Chien-Pao and Archaludon
Archaludon to Koraidon
But dont know what to replace chien pao to a normal pokemon
Lycopoky what do you think?
It’s just I can only use two of them
so many strong dragons in the meta rn
Is the most prominent tera for heatran still grass? I guess I’ve just never understood that? Why am I worried about amoongus as a fire type with 130 spatk
Water/Fighting
Justified
91/72/90/129/90/108
580
Keldeo-Resolute
I think so L's
nobody is using heatran though
They asked i answered
Only asked bc I just got packed up by one🥲
fking Koridon team with heatran on it
sun boosted heat waves from heatran is ouch
It's for anti-Spore + it neutralises your x4 weakness to Ground and x2 weakness to Water
Other common Teras include Fairy
@molten oasis I gonna fucking set the Earth Ablaze again.
Drago, this happened which explains his attitude
Yeah happened to him 2 times this week
Yeah
Kyurem-White is just bullying you with freezes
But i did miss twice against your mushroom and turtle
And you did paralyze Drago's Kyurem which stopped it 4 times
but did i win?
case in point
torrent chill
Hehe freeze RNG
THIS IS THE SECOND TIME IN A WEEK
Shit happens
i might use Miraidon for another Tournament
i need fucking Damage
torrent-
shit happens in game-
and what happened happened-
so try not to dwell and get mad at that
Most important thing now is definitely the concept of damage trading
I think i wasn't rubbing salt in the wound imo
Just said being bullied by the freezes, told him of the positive rng he got agaisnt drago
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2159749119 lmao dozo to good, I wasn't liking the way this game was going.
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True shit
got back to 2-2-0
I went to the dark side
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Well you picked a wrong time to do so
i already did
damn
Who would have thought psyspam at 1600+ elo would still work lol
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What the showdown randomly reloaded and all my teams are gone
Electric, Flying, Ice
Bug, Dark, Dragon, Fairy, Ghost, Grass, Normal, Poison, Psychic, Steel, Stellar, Water
Fighting, Fire, Ground, Rock
Ice-types cannot be Frozen.
Electric-types cannot be paralyzed.
Ice-types have their Defense increased by 50% in Snow.
did some little changes when i noticed Darkshifu learns coaching which can be pretty deadly with body press groudon 
after talking with a person in one other server, we noticed (quoting his thoughts) that it honestly might not be a bad idea to go scarf ursh and throw coaching on there to make it more difficult to mitigate damage and you get a defense boost and can throw body press as a way to deal with incin after getting to +1 defense or pressure their tera (which means that dark ursh should be able to wicked blow late game so long as you’re able to keep it (this is similar to what CIR teams are doing with Annihilape/Water Ursh)
why’s no restricted get snow warning…
i guess snow warning doesnt have things to support it to be worth of restricted
Snow idea
alolan ninetails is mainly used for that thanks to aurora veil
they need do something like water spout for ice types to be worth i guess
make Miraidon a Tank?
boltbeam coverage
uhh-
lives cause boost to defense too
Or Sand Stream
didn't Miraidon Bundle Failed Horribly and made People put Miraidon on Fraud List?
no-
i want boltbeam on one pokemon-
bundle is too frail
Yeah most likely
specs yeah
yeah looks fair
i’d rather a9 over any other snow setter though
Yeah Abomasnow is quite bad
something like this i guess…
GROUDON!
Dude I love Groudon.
it looks good
https://pokepast.es/a04d1a80930d29b2 what could I switch peli for?
I've seen some cores using Gholdengo
But tbh Pelipper is fine
The wide guard is very valuable and being able to help against some Koraidon MU or boosting Urshifu's damage
nvm peli is fire
Peli the goat
birb
Had to change my whole Groudon set because of it.
Granted, the new Groudon set has been working well so I guess I can't complain.
Managed to hit 1700 on showdown with 2 accounts today so I have beaten my demons(Pelipper) for now at least.
i'm using Iron Crown+Miraidon Scarf Lando rn
Scarf Lando-I is the bane of my existence.
yeah you might don't like my team
Yeah, Scarf Lando-I can be very annoying
Another reason I had to alter my team.
Very speedy and not so easy to figure out it's speed stat if you don't look at other things
Also does a good chunk of damage
Sheer force on those moves hurt a whole lot.
Chien Pao is my usual answer to it.
But if they tera then things get sketch.
its basically,its Tailwlind moment
Wish my accounts had better GXEs.
But I guess that is a Groudon moment.
At any given moment. BOOM double pblade miss.
Momentum lost, null turn, Groudon lock in.
just slap a Tailwind and Let Lando do its job against Miraidon,Zacian and Caly Shadow
wait how many percent of consistency?
Dang!
i mean its good
Yeah, can't complain too much.
A lot of it is definitely the team. Gastrodon works very well with my team.
guys i'm currently making my way to spear pillar in a brilliant diamond hardcore nuzlocke and i just picked up the tm for sludge bomb for my roserade. which move should i get rid of for sludge bomb: leaf storm (its egg move from the underground), giga drain, leech seed, or toxic spikes?
my elo is in 1400 but honestly having 75% consistency is not bad
75% is amazing.
its mid elo so yeah its fine i guess
Where do you usually climb to?
Miraidon in 66%
Should be at least higher cuz my old teams suck ass
1400 to 1500
Oh nice!
not exaclty the right chat, this is more for PVP battles
That 1500 milestone is usually the hardest one to overcome.
At least in my experience.
rn my main restricted got 60%+ Consistency so its fine
Terapagos,Miraidon and Kyogre
Lunala idk haven't climb with it yet
ik. but there's no bdsp discussion
i dont think anyone here will have an opinion on your question
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