#competitive_discussion

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timber falcon
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yeha i should probs cover that first

molten oasis
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you suck

bold geode
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LOL

solid frigate
molten oasis
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that brain damage is really kicking in rn huh

solid frigate
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Eni Lurking as Usual lol

timber falcon
molten oasis
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we could enchance that damage arkeknine

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molten oasis
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when i cook with things i try to make them work, consistently

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kyurem white was struggling to do that early reg

nocturne holly
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-1 252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Chien-Pao Icicle Crash vs. 252 HP / 116 Def Amoonguss: 152-182 (68.7 - 82.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Lives a crash after intim

timber falcon
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molten oasis
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oh its admant nvm

nocturne holly
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Yea

spiral pawn
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このチャットは非常に奇妙だが、それが一番いいと思う

nocturne holly
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ima use this spread
More sp def oriented but I have intim so it’s ok

molten oasis
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welp, time to cook

timber falcon
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idk i use Landorus too much lol

dapper crag
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Landorus's moveset:
Physical Moves

Body Slam, Brick Break, Brutal Swing, Bulldoze, Crunch, Dig, Earthquake, Explosion, Facade, Fissure, Fling, Fly, Frustration, Giga Impact, Hammer Arm, Iron Tail, Knock Off, Outrage, Payback, Punishment, Return, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Throw, Rock Tomb, Sand Tomb, Secret Power, Self-Destruct, Smack Down, Stomping Tantrum, Stone Edge, Strength, Superpower, Take Down, U-turn

Special Moves

Earth Power, Extrasensory, Focus Blast, Grass Knot, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Mud Shot, Mud-Slap, Psychic, Round, Sandsear Storm, Scorching Sands, Sludge Bomb, Sludge Wave, Snore, Tera Blast, Weather Ball

Status Moves

Attract, Block, Bulk Up, Calm Mind, Confide, Defog, Double Team, Endure, Gravity, Imprison, Leer, Nasty Plot, Protect, Rain Dance, Rest, Rock Polish, Role Play, Sandstorm, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Stealth Rock, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Swords Dance, Taunt, Toxic

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Landorus.

timber falcon
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lando isnt bad actually here hmm

molten oasis
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hmm

timber falcon
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zama is either water or grass tera right?

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molten oasis
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ghost sometimes but yea

spiral pawn
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molten oasis
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i've never struggled with lando i

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bblade baybee

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spiral pawn
nocturne holly
near crag
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Hey, does anyone have a ogerpon h spread? It's a ivy cudgel, horn leech, follow me, and spiky shield set.

timber falcon
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what core does zama run with, ik peli is common

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molten oasis
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no torrent, the zacian kills it

solid frigate
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I'm gonna fucking say Chinese Slurs if i need to

timber falcon
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calm down

spiral pawn
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spiral pawn
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It’s Japanese

timber falcon
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anyone here have some zama knowledge

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nocturne holly
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I’m heavily considering mienshao tbh

molten oasis
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@bold geode

spiral pawn
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“It’s Chinese” 😅

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timber falcon
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i just need to know what your average zama team looks like

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timber falcon
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the core, if you will

balmy glen
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did someone say zama

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spiral pawn
molten oasis
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idk if chinese calls it Kanji, as in japanese Kanji is what they called chinese caracters

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japanese call it kanji idk if chinese call it that

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balmy glen
spiral pawn
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Well check what Google calls it

timber falcon
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what do you consider a common zama team?

molten oasis
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yep, they're called hanzi

nocturne holly
molten oasis
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not kanji

balmy glen
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craggy dagger
timber falcon
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mid elo zama team im accounting for rn

bold geode
molten oasis
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OTOT wants zama knowledge

balmy glen
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I think the common 6 is balance Zam in mid elo with Ursh Bolt Pelipper Amoongus Chien stuff with a mixed of my Goltres Latios variant

bold geode
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Talk

molten oasis
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Keanu showed up tho so idk if you need to be here now

bold geode
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Wait Keanu here lol

solid frigate
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Bully Monke moment

balmy glen
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moment of bullying

molten oasis
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indeed

gentle cragBOT
bold geode
timber falcon
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gotta understand zama, to kill zama

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balmy glen
molten oasis
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dont you dare

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molten oasis
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nah id win

spiral pawn
# molten oasis yep, they're called hanzi

I consider a normal Zacian team to be like :
1.Zacian @intrpidsword
2. dont matter Zacian sweeps
3. dont matter Zacian sweeps
4. dont matter Zacian sweeps
5. dont matter Zacian sweeps
6. dont matter Zacian sweeps

balmy glen
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maybe not my older alts but I make a new alt like every week until it hits minimum top 500 so

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u could face me while im making a new alt/team xd

spiral pawn
balmy glen
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my favorite part abt doing that are the low/mid elo trash talkers who have no clue its me saying I wouldnt bring wtvr niche im using to a real tour M03_apexm_kek

timber falcon
solid frigate
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balmy glen
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show chat

timber falcon
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aight with my newfound knowledge of zama core

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timber falcon
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i think my wincons will be shifu and lando

molten oasis
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is it worth playing with ky white

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literally because im bored lol

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like idk if ky white brings anything worthwhile to the table

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spiral pawn
molten oasis
timber falcon
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anyone got that japanses balanace lando-i set

molten oasis
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before playing on the ladder

timber falcon
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i think thats what it was called

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molten oasis
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that team was mid

solid frigate
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you do have the experience on it

bold geode
solid frigate
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thats why use the experience to make it better

molten oasis
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i wish ky white got calm mind or, any set up move lol

solid frigate
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i do that with Terapagos despite there are bazillion stuff in Limitless and i still don't look at the teams lmao

dapper crag
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Kyurem-White's moveset:
Physical Moves

Aerial Ace, Avalanche, Body Press, Body Slam, Breaking Swipe, Brutal Swing, Cut, Dragon Claw, Dragon Tail, Dual Wingbeat, Endeavor, Facade, Fling, Fly, Frustration, Giga Impact, Ice Fang, Icicle Spear, Iron Head, Outrage, Payback, Return, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Tomb, Scale Shot, Secret Power, Shadow Claw, Slash, Steel Wing, Stone Edge, Strength, Take Down, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Ancient Power, Blizzard, Draco Meteor, Dragon Breath, Dragon Pulse, Dragon Rage, Earth Power, Echoed Voice, Flash Cannon, Focus Blast, Freeze-Dry, Fusion Flare, Glaciate, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Ice Beam, Ice Burn, Icy Wind, Psychic, Round, Shadow Ball, Sheer Cold, Signal Beam, Snore, Swift, Tera Blast, Weather Ball

Status Moves

Confide, Double Team, Dragon Cheer, Dragon Dance, Endure, Hail, Helping Hand, Hone Claws, Imprison, Laser Focus, Light Screen, Noble Roar, Protect, Rain Dance, Reflect, Rest, Roar, Roost, Safeguard, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Snowscape, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Toxic

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Kyurem-White.

solid frigate
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holy fu it gets nothing in Setup

molten oasis
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why does it get sunny day and rain dance lol

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daring pumice
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It has 170 sp atk I sure hope it can’t setup

molten oasis
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and its okay taht CSR can?

daring pumice
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Eh ur right

bold geode
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It gets Sub lol

daring pumice
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Well csr is like a exemption from every rule ever

molten oasis
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molten oasis
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also msot things get sub

balmy glen
molten oasis
solid frigate
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i was legit Suprised

balmy glen
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I was my friends only loss d2 indie

bold geode
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WG

molten oasis
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so it is good

timber falcon
balmy glen
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he was the kyruem white dude

solid frigate
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oh wait i see Kyurem White in SWSH more than SVV

molten oasis
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balmy glen
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kyruem white is a fine anti meta pick its just hard to build around

molten oasis
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for it

balmy glen
molten oasis
daring pumice
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Ninetails using hh with specs kyurem white🗿

balmy glen
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I think snow is the worst weather tbh

molten oasis
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idk if its worse than sand

daring pumice
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Sand worse

balmy glen
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sand is goated

solid frigate
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meanwhile me using Zygarde:

molten oasis
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why

balmy glen
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im only saying that cuz im a ttar fan/ believer xd

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molten oasis
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lol

balmy glen
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ttar should be used more than ninetales tho its actually way better ngl

molten oasis
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fair enough

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well, yea

balmy glen
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especially in this meta

molten oasis
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if a9 didn't have a pitiful spA stat it be, a little better

daring pumice
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Well it’s a shit typing

balmy glen
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zama ttar went crazy with michael for a reason

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molten oasis
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michael is also cracked

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balmy glen
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i was asking michael why he didnt go on ttar stuff earlier cuz I wanted to do it earlier on

molten oasis
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eh, if i ran ky white i'd literally be running snow due to a9 being a favorite

balmy glen
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he figured out to go sash ttar later on tho so solved it

molten oasis
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i wish a9 had better stats

balmy glen
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well thats the problem with ky white

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u need to run a9

molten oasis
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yea, it needs a9 and a9 is pretty eh

daring pumice
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yep and a9 is bad

solid frigate
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cuz Obamasnow is just suck

molten oasis
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idk about bad

solid frigate
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like mid level i would say

molten oasis
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ttar is good despite its typing at least

daring pumice
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It’s pretty bad, it just has 0 offense

solid frigate
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i did use A9 with Terapagos before

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and thanks i hate it

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 38: Ninetales-Alola
Types

Ice/Fairy

Abilities

Snow Cloak, Snow Warning (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

73/67/75/81/100/109

Total

505

Base Species

Ninetales

molten oasis
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its spA stat sucks like why did you do that to it

daring pumice
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It would honestly be very good if it had even like 90 spatk

molten oasis
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meh

nocturne holly
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81 is wild 😭😭

molten oasis
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it need a minimum of 100

daring pumice
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🗿

nocturne holly
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It doesn’t even have decent bulk

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molten oasis
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actually

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with snow its deceptively pretty bulky

balmy glen
molten oasis
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not bulky enough infront of a restricted but, enough for other things

balmy glen
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av tar isnt possible this reg

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molten oasis
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and yea issue with snow being you need to get a9 to work the best it can

bold geode
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Y no AV

molten oasis
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which is pretty hard

molten oasis
bold geode
spiral pawn
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預言を完成させるために必要なことは何でもして、私の代わりを務めてください

molten oasis
solid frigate
molten oasis
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you dont get veil

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if you're running snow i feel like you'd want veil

solid frigate
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and thats the second issue

molten oasis
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unless you're the snow kyogre team

bold geode
molten oasis
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why does kyogre have so much random sauce lol

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molten oasis
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well

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its still unorthodox teams

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okay well, from keanu's words, issues with kyurem are a9 being weak and zama

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that and, its anti meta so, diffucult to make work in general

nocturne holly
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Why is ttar good this reg

balmy glen
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balmy glen
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your just making it worse at that point

daring pumice
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Tera ground earth power on kyurem white for zama mu?

balmy glen
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having ur weather switch in get tapped is crazy

molten oasis
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no i'd be running something else

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molten oasis
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like, maybe dengo but idk about dengo

bold geode
solid frigate
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Dengo is truly worse than before

Again Power levels man

molten oasis
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i also without trying boost CIR

bold geode
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Dengo is cracked tf

molten oasis
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which, isnt a good thing

molten oasis
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i really dont see it otherwise

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molten oasis
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you also have amon instantly hindered pretty hard by rain being up

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and peli/torn being meta

spiral pawn
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Idk how you guys are still going but I’m going now. Sayonara!

molten oasis
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hmm

bold geode
molten oasis
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kyurem a9, what is an issue for this immedately

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molten oasis
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steel coverage, zama/korai, rocks

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rain shifu can roll me

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waterpon could be okay

solid frigate
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oh wait nvm

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Fusion Flare exists

molten oasis
daring pumice
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Could go lando I , handles alot of the weaknesses of a9 and kyurem

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wait nvm then water urshifu cooks u

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molten oasis
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idk about clunky

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its more getting a9 in good position

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is hard

stark juniper
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Question for you lot, I’m a bit out of the loop, what are the best non legend walls atm?

nocturne holly
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does solgaleo have a niche or is it just shit

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daring pumice
molten oasis
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i dont think i felt like a9 was clunky

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dapper crag
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Solgaleo's moveset:
Physical Moves

Body Slam, Bulldoze, Close Combat, Crunch, Double-Edge, Earthquake, Endeavor, Facade, Flame Charge, Flare Blitz, Frustration, Giga Impact, Gyro Ball, Heat Crash, Heavy Slam, Iron Head, Iron Tail, Knock Off, Last Resort, Metal Burst, Metal Claw, Outrage, Psychic Fangs, Return, Rock Slide, Rock Tomb, Steel Roller, Stone Edge, Sunsteel Strike, Superpower, Take Down, Wake-Up Slap, Wild Charge, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Expanding Force, Fire Blast, Fire Spin, Flamethrower, Flash Cannon, Focus Blast, Future Sight, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Meteor Beam, Mystical Fire, Psychic, Psyshock, Round, Shock Wave, Snarl, Snore, Solar Beam, Steel Beam, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt

Status Moves

Agility, Calm Mind, Confide, Cosmic Power, Double Team, Endure, Helping Hand, Iron Defense, Light Screen, Metal Sound, Morning Sun, Noble Roar, Protect, Psych Up, Reflect, Rest, Roar, Safeguard, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Splash, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Teleport, Thunder Wave, Toxic, Trick Room, Wide Guard, Work Up

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Solgaleo.

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Solgaleo's moveset:
Physical Moves

Body Slam, Bulldoze, Close Combat, Crunch, Double-Edge, Earthquake, Endeavor, Facade, Flame Charge, Flare Blitz, Frustration, Giga Impact, Gyro Ball, Heat Crash, Heavy Slam, Iron Head, Iron Tail, Knock Off, Last Resort, Metal Burst, Metal Claw, Outrage, Psychic Fangs, Return, Rock Slide, Rock Tomb, Steel Roller, Stone Edge, Sunsteel Strike, Superpower, Take Down, Wake-Up Slap, Wild Charge, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Expanding Force, Fire Blast, Fire Spin, Flamethrower, Flash Cannon, Focus Blast, Future Sight, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Meteor Beam, Mystical Fire, Psychic, Psyshock, Round, Shock Wave, Snarl, Snore, Solar Beam, Steel Beam, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt

Status Moves

Agility, Calm Mind, Confide, Cosmic Power, Double Team, Endure, Helping Hand, Iron Defense, Light Screen, Metal Sound, Morning Sun, Noble Roar, Protect, Psych Up, Reflect, Rest, Roar, Safeguard, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Splash, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Teleport, Thunder Wave, Toxic, Trick Room, Wide Guard, Work Up

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Solgaleo.

daring pumice
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Dragon dance on slow mon

molten oasis
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L

solid frigate
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We are talking about Solgaleo

daring pumice
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Ohh nvm confused them

stark juniper
daring pumice
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Wait can it even set up

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daring pumice
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This thing sucks ass

stark juniper
daring pumice
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Calm mind 😭

molten oasis
solid frigate
# daring pumice Wait can it even set up

the only thing people Prefer Solgaleo is that they watched the Sun and Moon Anime and Ash Owns it

Whenever Ash Owns a Mon,The mon will have its Fanbase(Sorry Unfezant)

daring pumice
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True I remember ppl having dracovish obsession

nocturne holly
molten oasis
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yk

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molten oasis
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could go dual weather with rain dance torn

nocturne holly
molten oasis
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similar logic to the kyogre team

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molten oasis
nocturne holly
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don’t 😈

molten oasis
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it's a thought

nocturne holly
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it has a ton of coverage tho

molten oasis
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i have fusion flare rn

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waht was, hmm

solid frigate
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@balmy glen You ain't wrong about the Show Chat

I saw Specs Rilla and Meteor Beam Koraidon-
Wtf

molten oasis
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heh

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tyo had lando t and heatran on a snow team

solid frigate
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i need Holy Water

nocturne holly
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Does snow buff ice move damage

molten oasis
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no

daring pumice
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No

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molten oasis
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oh

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av bolt, sure

balmy glen
nocturne holly
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yea I know that

balmy glen
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Sucks he won’t be going to worlds though

molten oasis
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aw bummer

solid frigate
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Sad

nocturne holly
molten oasis
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ik he won with snow so, i went to his stuff

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molten oasis
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shiiit yea im already using av

balmy glen
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Nah AV is kind of needed tbh

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Ik Tyo had my friend on some Specs Ky

solid frigate
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also

Wtf is Japan's Obsession with Lorb Raging Bolt

molten oasis
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im probably stuck with torn for speed control huh

daring pumice
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Specs boosted helping hand boosted 100% accurate blizzards😭😭

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molten oasis
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lyco does what he wants

solid frigate
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at least he has Results

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better than like say randos in here

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and he did help me build that Kyogre team who got Two losses still

molten oasis
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man

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ugh torn it is

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i cant think of anything else

spiral pawn
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皆さんもう一つ。良い一日をお過ごしください!あなたは皆素晴らしいです!

molten oasis
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and yk we gotta get urshifu in here because its urshifu

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nocturne holly
molten oasis
spiral pawn
nocturne holly
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dawg who are you even tryna talk to with the Japanese bro

spiral pawn
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This one’s nice

molten oasis
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first 4 could be okay unsure on the rest

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spiral pawn
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I actually don’t watch anime despite my pfp and the fact I’m speaking Japanese, anyway, go on

molten oasis
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shifu is the real restricted

nocturne holly
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I’m the real restricted too lean fr fr

spiral pawn
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spiral pawn
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Sayonara! 👋

molten oasis
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a9's fine

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im worried about, the rest lol

balmy glen
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It’s Heatran

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Isn’t Heatran on that team I forgot tbh

molten oasis
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not mien but on tyo's one i saw yes

nocturne holly
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I can’t fucking wait till double restricteds

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It’s going to be so much more fun

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a lot more diversity too

balmy glen
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I’m going to be running the same team all reg once I decided on it

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balmy glen
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Literally going to comfort diff the hell out of everyone lol

solid frigate
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and yes Boulder Addiction moment

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haven't use Pagos for so long

balmy glen
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I hate scarf chi so much lol

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balmy glen
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like it’s kind of bad ngl

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but I guess it’s fine with encore stuff

solid frigate
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also like idk if Boulder is fine for this team cuz i kinda lost redirection

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but i guess its good for Koraidon MU

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252 Atk Iron Boulder Mighty Cleave vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera Fire Koraidon: 138-164 (78.8 - 93.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Good enough i guess

molten oasis
nocturne holly
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zacian and cir/csr/kyogre

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Shiii is gonna be so fun

balmy glen
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zacian will be best partnered with kyogre tbh

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AV kyogre zacian sounds like a pain

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molten oasis
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A set monke*

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I ran, that lol

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He ran zama CSR

molten oasis
chrome knot
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if ur unsure ur gonna take a ko but know your partner moves first over terapagos

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0 SpA Choice Specs Tera-Stellar Terapagos-Stellar Tera Starstorm vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Tera-Electric Miraidon: 134-160 (76.5 - 91.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (2 targets)

0 SpA Choice Specs Tera-Stellar Terapagos-Stellar Tera Starstorm vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Tera-Electric Miraidon: 182-216 (104 - 123.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO (single target, take the ko on whims)

solid frigate
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alright thanks

nocturne holly
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cir is crazy 😭😭

craggy dagger
solid frigate
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Zama Hates Chi Yu a lot lol

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 889: Zamazenta-Crowned
Types

Fighting/Steel

Abilities

Dauntless Shield

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

92/120/140/80/140/128

Total

700

Base Species

Zamazenta

nocturne holly
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damn I didn’t know it was that fast

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craggy dagger
rustic mountain
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we got like another 2 months of reg g tho nd ppl r already jaded budgetgachichamp

solid frigate
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am i the only one who grow tired of Reg G lol

ivory girder
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I feel like this is where I should ask this so how does fusion affect IVs and EVs?

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nocturne holly
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https://pokepast.es/d89f676e215d5902 I wanna run safety goggles shifuu on this so that’d mean I’d have to switch incin to either av or Sitrus but av is on bolt
Would av be better on incin and have booster on bolt or give incin Sitrus

ivory girder
gentle cragBOT
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ivory girder
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Okay phew

steady cove
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Which ogerpon mask do you prefer?

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cedar crow
steady cove
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And single battle btw

cedar crow
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Oh no I don’t intend to play stadium thx for offering

steady cove
cedar crow
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The online one

steady cove
cedar crow
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No I don’t

steady cove
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Oh...

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XD Well, I wasted my time that. Hahahaha

cedar crow
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Sorry!

steady cove
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If I turned your team into a 6v6 singles team that had the same base stat total as my pokemon for perfect balance, would you battle me using it?

Or what you rather me create doubles teams with balanced stats?

craggy dagger
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meow-?

steady cove
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Would you like to participate in my balanced singles format?

molten oasis
craggy dagger
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though i’m not really good at single battles so you’ll have to excuse me if i am first to fall

lofty tartan
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Beep beep

dapper crag
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Beep beep

steady cove
torpid wraith
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I'm thinking about getting into competitive play and I'm thinking about using Galar Articuno as my set, any ideas for movesets and a team?

nocturne holly
torpid wraith
next stump
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I unfortunately don’t play that format so I’m not much help, but I think a couple players here do

nocturne holly
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Barely 😭 haven’t seen any singles players in a while

torpid wraith
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what is a double moveset and team yall recommend?

graceful flare
#

Clear amulet dondozo?

craggy dagger
nocturne holly
#

I don’t know what to cook with

#

cir is fun but is kinda easy to play with imo

next stump
#

easy = fun hahaha

mighty stump
#

Still have no clue what I’m gonna be running overall

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Lol

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Ive been playing random ahh things on and off

craggy dagger
#

if you want a challenge try picking something that’s not a restricted as your base for the team LappHappy

mighty stump
#

Well I cant lol

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Im doing for OPL

foggy lodge
#

What is OPL?

nocturne holly
#

Idk ig I just want something a little more challenging to play

foggy lodge
#

i had an idea with the moxie boosted video

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Play a team of only pokemon obtainable in the base game lol

rustic mountain
#

i mean koraidon and miraidon are both base game so i guess its not terrible

craggy dagger
#

owah-
base game-

#

you can try the reg A dancer aqua step gimmick keqbored

foggy lodge
balmy glen
#

thats not why at all

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sash chi is the only problem for zama tbh

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scarf chi loses to zama

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@mighty stump

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get off ladder with ur snorlax

molten oasis
#

Did you find tofu on ladder lol

balmy glen
#

no I found a guy in high ladder with a tofu like team

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he has 1630 with it

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so not bad but im running Zacian so

molten oasis
#

Did you win?

balmy glen
#

of course

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im testing for my opl squad

#

seeing what I wanna bring

molten oasis
#

Cool cool

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Good luck

junior patrol
#

I know understand why people hate Urshifu

junior patrol
#

Love getting hit through protect

chrome knot
#

😵‍💫

minor panther
junior patrol
#

I've played two days of competitive and I despise the dumb bear

next stump
#

people who have been playing since SWSH

minor panther
#

apparently urshifu is specifically an asian black bear

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i was wondering what kinf of bear he was

junior patrol
#

Say what's a good Zamazenta team to use

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I wanna branch out to playing with other teams

nocturne holly
#

I can’t fucking use labmaus brooo

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I can’t find and filter teams

craggy dagger
bold geode
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I actually love Urshifu cuz it dumb lol

silver ravine
next stump
silver ravine
#

Though getting rid of entei would give me a better option to lead with. As it stands the trick room mode would be the weakest without Incin. Though what to do with pao? Maybe get rid of for yu?

craggy dagger
#

oh-
paoteinite

#

keep pao-
pao’s a good wallbreaker

dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 858: Hatterene-Gmax
Types

Psychic/Fairy

Abilities

Healer, Anticipation, Magic Bounce (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

57/90/95/136/103/29

Total

510

Base Species

Hatterene

#
Move: G-Max Chi Strike

Power is equal to the base move's Max Move power. If this move is successful, each Pokemon on the user's side has their critical hit ratio raised by 1 stage, even if they have a substitute.

Type

Fighting

Category

Physical

Power

10

Accuracy

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

#
Move: G-Max Cuddle

Power is equal to the base move's Max Move power. If this move is successful, each Pokemon on the opposing side becomes infatuated, even if they have a substitute. This effect does not happen for a target if both it and the user are the same gender, if either is genderless, or if the target is already infatuated.

Type

Normal

Category

Physical

Power

10

Accuracy

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

near crag
#

That is that one team from rajan bal and aaron traylor, but I thought that iron hands could be a good replacement for oger/ditto, since it has obvious synergy with miraidon, and also can work instead of incin, in certain matchups, or, in more specific cases, even with him. Do you think it's a good change? https://pokepast.es/40eb1db3783ae362

dapper crag
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Move: Origin Pulse

No additional effect.

Type

Water

Category

Special

Power

110

Accuracy

85

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Pulse

Boosted by Mega Launcher.

mighty stump
steady cove
mighty stump
#

Gimme the six though I wanna know

craggy dagger
#

what-
the-
hell-
is
this
team

cyan smelt
#

Final gambit smeargle is wild

molten oasis
bold geode
molten oasis
bold geode
#

Yes

molten oasis
bold geode
#

Cuz fuck you

craggy dagger
#

dragon cheer zac and now np a9

#

what-
why-

molten oasis
strange fjord
#

or maybe neither

molten oasis
strange fjord
#

not me lol

autumn vault
#

He's cooking like a Japanese player

#

And the results are looking positive

sharp cobalt
#

What about cooking like a French or Italian player? Their cuisine is good

autumn vault
#

That was from someone nearly in 1500 elo btw

dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 869: Alcremie
Type

Fairy

Abilities

Sweet Veil, Aroma Veil (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

65/60/75/110/121/64

Total

495

molten oasis
autumn vault
#

It's for avoiding the Encore from Whim

molten oasis
#

Still

#

But also

autumn vault
#

Wasn't sure Freeze Dry OHKO'd since it was a roll

molten oasis
#

You can taunt it, as you’re now faster than a whims

autumn vault
#

I don't have Taunt anymore

molten oasis
#

Then what do you have

autumn vault
#

Protect

molten oasis
#

then click protect

autumn vault
#

It has been useful preserving the torn

molten oasis
#

You didn’t need to kill kyogre

autumn vault
#

I can see why i didn't need to

molten oasis
#

Freeze dry into blizzard kills

autumn vault
#

Since next turn Kyurem-W outspeeds it

autumn vault
molten oasis
#

Right you’re weird arkeknine

autumn vault
#

I like big numbers

molten oasis
#

Sure, anyway

#

Kyurem isn’t threatened by kyogre

#

Most it can do is ice beam

autumn vault
#

Yeah ik

molten oasis
#

Still idt you needed to Tera it felt unnecessary

#

Because you can doesn’t mean you should although I understand the logic

autumn vault
#

If i clicked Protect then the Whim can just encore next turn

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Which is also another reason for the tera dark

molten oasis
#

So if you protect what damage does kyogre do to it

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Cuz again you’re not threatened by kyogre with kyurem

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And you 2hko

autumn vault
#

And Water Spout was really pathetic

molten oasis
#

Well, you hit it first

autumn vault
#

Which is already very obvious

molten oasis
#

Imo the play is freeze dry kyogre and protect torn

autumn vault
#

Could have been better ik

molten oasis
#

Then switch into, whatever you had in the back and freeze dry again

autumn vault
#

iirc i had A9 and Urshifu

molten oasis
#

A9 then

autumn vault
#

I already had snow up

molten oasis
#

Okay

autumn vault
#

But an aurora veil is always nice

molten oasis
#

You want to eat a moonblast from whims?

autumn vault
#

Not at -2

molten oasis
#

Well, are you scarf shifu?

autumn vault
#

No

molten oasis
#

Then shifu is probably fine

autumn vault
#

Chi-Yu is Scarf

molten oasis
#

To switchin over torn

sharp cobalt
molten oasis
#

Kyurem can eat a moonblast and you can Tera the Kyurem freely

#

Are you Tera fire?

sharp cobalt
autumn vault
#

Yes

sharp cobalt
molten oasis
#

Then yea, you kill the kyogre and Tera fire with kyurem

autumn vault
#

Yeah ik

#

Protect torn, freeze dry

#

Then switch torn and tera fire freeze dry again

molten oasis
#

Just a theory thought for if he chose to play out the match and also you didn’t Tera

#

Anyway

#

I’m going to go sleep now gn

autumn vault
#

GN

vital zephyr
# autumn vault GN

Yo lyco do you know any funny combos for double doesn’t have to be high tier just some cool combos

graceful flare
#

I once survived a whimsicott moonbalst with urhsifu single strike no tera

#

Or maybe it was cresselia

#

It was one of the 2

vital zephyr
dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 208: Steelix
Types

Steel/Ground

Abilities

Rock Head, Sturdy, Sheer Force (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

75/85/200/55/65/30

Total

510

Other Formes

Steelix-Mega

dull ibex
#

hello everyone

dapper crag
autumn vault
#

Weezing better than Grafaiai

vital zephyr
#

Something unpredictable would be awesome

dapper crag
vital zephyr
mighty stump
#

idk if you read

dull ibex
#

will shortly

dapper crag
#

It was so op they removed ancient power from jirachi’s movepool lol

autumn vault
#

0 SpA Cresselia Moonblast vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Urshifu-Single Strike: 172-204 (97.7 - 115.9%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

next stump
#

good morning y’all

minor panther
#

oh damn its nearly 8 am- anyway

#

good morning

nocturne holly
#

Morning

balmy glen
#

damn

#

I had respect for someone then found out they shit talked me after our match lmao

#

moment

#

Got leaked messages 😭

solid frigate
#

Hoi

autumn vault
#

Only salty people do that

#

Its a waste of time saying mean comments about someone

balmy glen
#

its a top player too lol

#

was kind of disappointed to see them shit talking behind close doors when they seemed so nice after our match but it happens ig

autumn vault
#

Just find it sad if you vent to someone about an opponent you had and shit talk them behind their back when they only beat you and didn't say anything offensive

balmy glen
#

I mean its kind of wtvr just disappointing that its coming from a top player yk lol

chrome knot
#

who was it lmao

balmy glen
#

eh idk if I should say it tbh its a friend of a friend which made it more disappointing lol

chrome knot
#

you can pm me itttt

#

i wont spread word bc i not a weirdo im just curious

next stump
#

comp scenes are full of clout chasers and cliques

#

pokemon is better than other games i've been in but still a very clear "upper class"

#

luckily as you get older you realize those people might be good at the game but they're actual losers IRL

mighty stump
#

Cliques are lame overall

polar canyon
#

Whats a clique

nocturne holly
mighty stump
#

Oh you read it?

nocturne holly
#

Yea

polar canyon
#

There's a new one?

mighty stump
#

Appreciate you

polar canyon
#

I'm so reading it right now all your posts are fire

nocturne holly
#

👍

balmy glen
#

Well yes and no

#

I beat them before but not like the latest one

nocturne holly
#

you took a game off?

balmy glen
#

like when they trash talked they had beaten me

nocturne holly
#

oh
Were they calling you bad or like

balmy glen
#

pretty much ig lol

nocturne holly
#

😭 but you beat them once right

balmy glen
#

Mhm

#

It’s wtvr

autumn vault
#

Reminds me of another competitive fanbase i used to be a part of

#

The players treat bottom level players like trash

#

And you had to be really bad to be punished

#

And being Mario Kart 8 Deluxe did not help at all

#

I got a bunch of shit rng in that game when i played competitive

#

And i was pretty skilled

polar canyon
#

Dang being in a comp scene for mario kart sounds terrible

autumn vault
#

But the shit rng kept me down, fuck that game

polar canyon
#

I'm just hoping mario kart 9 meta is more centered around actually trying to be first

autumn vault
polar canyon
#

Don't get me wrong I know bagging strategies do take skill

#

But man it's so boring

#

It's a racing game and the best strategy is to stay behind most of the time

autumn vault
#

And very luck based

#

I recommend to never play that game competitively

polar canyon
#

What do you call like the in between for casual and competitive

#

I like to play the online ranked mode I just don't use like tryhard strats and try to have fun mostly

#

I'm like 5000?

#

4000 I think

autumn vault
#

I am at 9300 iirc

polar canyon
#

It's my spot in a lot of games

#

More than a casual player but not really a competitive focused person trying to get to the top

#

I think I good example is that that's how I play splatoon

#

How I play 3 and played 2

autumn vault
#

Yeah

#

Competitive fanbases generally suck tbh

polar canyon
#

When I look at top x power splatoon players it makes me hope I'm never in the same kinda spot as them

#

They're the ones who rage the most at bad teammates because apprently up in the top elo the matchmaking gets more unbalanced

#

And they quickly get to the point where a win gets you little x power and a loss loses you a lot of x power

#

Aka elo

#

@mighty stump I think your post was pretty good

autumn vault
polar canyon
#

I think everyone here sees you as a pretty cool guy who's really good at the game

autumn vault
#

But no need to rage about that

polar canyon
#

So like do expect people to read it

autumn vault
#

I'm considering reading tofu's blogpost later

polar canyon
autumn vault
#

Or maybe their standards are a little too high

polar canyon
#

Because all the comp players say the skill based matchmaking gets unbalanced at high level

#

And you can't play with your own party in the main comp ladder mode

#

Only randoms

autumn vault
#

Yeah ik how splatoon works

polar canyon
#

Sorry didn't know if you knew

#

I main glooga dualies

#

Those are so underrated

autumn vault
#

I main rollers and aerospray

polar canyon
#

I haven't played in a long time tho

autumn vault
#

I haven't played in weeks

polar canyon
#

Both variants have good kits, decently precise and fast 2 shot kill after rolling

bold geode
polar canyon
#

I would never have guessed tofu started with swsh

bold geode
autumn vault
#

I would have guessed that

polar canyon
#

All the advice sounds like it's coming from someone who's been playing for like over 10 years

autumn vault
polar canyon
#

Almost makes me feel a little bad for starting with swsh and not being good at the game

#

But I've always been on and off and not truly focused

nocturne holly
#

zac??

polar canyon
#

And each player has their own rhythm so I can't be comparing myself to tofu

mighty stump
nocturne holly
mighty stump
#

I don’t have a specific one

#

Hahaha

polar canyon
#

Sounds silly to restrict yourself to one restricted

mighty stump
#

I’ve been busy enough this month that I can’t grind things out that much too

polar canyon
#

Well what's the most recent you used?

mighty stump
#

Just moved and started my new job and all

#

Uhh

polar canyon
#

Congrats

nocturne holly
mighty stump
#

I’ve used Zama/Pagos/CSR/CIR/Mirai

#

So basically

#

The meta

#

LOL

autumn vault
#

Hopefully that proccess goes well

polar canyon
#

That's fair

nocturne holly
#

meta is goood

autumn vault
#

Meta helps me win games easier

mighty stump
#

Im literally ironing clothes on the floor cause of how bare my new start is but yea

polar canyon
#

I mean it's hard to go off meta with restricteds

nocturne holly
#

you need lint roller

polar canyon
#

I want to comment on it but I know nothing about ironing

mighty stump
#

I don’t see how a lint roller is helping me iron my pants

nocturne holly
#

no because the floor is going to get it dirty

mighty stump
#

Oh

nocturne holly
#

you don’t wanna pull up with lint all over you 🤮

mighty stump
#

No I sweep/dust/nop the floor regularly/ no outside footwear in my studio

#

so

#

plus

#

Im a vet

#

Lint is the least of ny worries

#

LOL

young raptor
#

hi, can anyone trade me a few mons from scralet?

polar canyon
mighty stump
bold geode
nocturne holly
mighty stump
polar canyon
#

Taking care of animals is awesome

#

The world needs people like you

autumn vault
#

Tofu is a very good person

polar canyon
#

People who know how to properly care for animals and also play pokemon

bold geode
#

Y'know those memes that are like "boys live like this and think it's ok" or whatever
That's Tofu in his studio rn

nocturne holly
#

fr

autumn vault
#

Yeah

nocturne holly
#

the only thing is
I’m ok with nothing except I NEED a bed frame

mighty stump
#

Id love to redecorate

polar canyon
#

Unironically gotta be more like this guy in a few aspects

mighty stump
#

Ok

#

But im literally waiting on my first paycheck

#

So like

polar canyon
#

Just don't tell us you're sleeping on the floor

nocturne holly
#

Yea

mighty stump
#

ok not that bare

#

lol

#

but i dont have a desk/chair

bold geode
#

Yeah lol
I need money

mighty stump
#

thankfully

#

my living costs are fairly

#

affordable

#

and i can save quite aggressively

polar canyon
#

I'm so glad I have supportive parents

#

I get to have both comfort and time to study

mighty stump
#

I can probably shove 1.5k into my savings per month

polar canyon
#

That's pretty huge

#

I think

#

It's huge to me

mighty stump
#

In this exonomy? yea

#

Lol

polar canyon
#

I mean what currency are we talking

#

I could only dream of getting 1.5k dollars into my savings monthly

#

I mean I still haven't looked nor needed a job yet

#

But that's how I wanna be when I do look for one lol

mighty stump
#

usd

#

i converted from SGD

nocturne holly
#

that’s good

mighty stump
#

So basically I can have around 1.5k in savings per month and another 1k to just do whatever

nocturne holly
#

What country are you in

next stump
#

what is rent like there?

mighty stump
#

I can skimp on a bunch of things except food

polar canyon
#

I think I'm on track for a good professional future

mighty stump
#

but im lucky since my vet clinic is corporate, and they gave me a pretty good relocation package

polar canyon
#

Since I'm studying tech in uni I get to work from home for companies around the world

next stump
#

where i live near chicago it's like $2000ish for any decent apartment

polar canyon
#

It's gonna be so great if I get paid in euros or dollars

bold geode
#

Yeah
Tofu I'm remembering when I gave you money now and saw Indonesia conversions lmao

mighty stump
next stump
#

not the worst but living alone is tough for people who are young

mighty stump
#

my rent is like

#

1800 including bills

#

So pretty good

polar canyon
#

How old are you again?

bold geode
mighty stump
#

uhm

#

25

#

I just turned 25

next stump
#

that's about the same as me, like $2k after bills

mighty stump
#

this year

#

btw you can effectively eat out here every day for lunch and dinner and only spend like

#

250 dollars a month

next stump
#

holy shit the DREAM

polar canyon
#

Im trying to not put you on a pedestal rn

mighty stump
bold geode
#

Tbf if you do the math
Some people eat like off the dollar menu at places and basically pay as much for that as groceries

polar canyon
#

You said so on your blogpost

polar canyon
#

I mean not directly

mighty stump
#

i get rice + vegetables + protein

bold geode
#

Better dining yeah
I fuckin wish

mighty stump
#

like

#

here

polar canyon
#

Reminds me that I need to get my good eating habits back

bold geode
#

Fuck I go to Panda Express and I'm like tf why did I spend 30 for two people

mighty stump
polar canyon
#

I think my lunch yesterday was a pack of cookies

mighty stump
#

not the best pic

#

but rice, fried fish, and some stir fried beansprouts

#

is like

#

2 bucks

polar canyon
#

Should I start sharing food pics here too?

bold geode
#

What country you in again?

mighty stump
#

i get sweet and sour pork/broccoli/pak choy and rice for probably 4 bucks

mighty stump
bold geode
#

Ok moving to Singapore

polar canyon
#

I'm making my specialty signature spicy sausage marinara this weekend I need to share some pics

#

It's a fun story

#

One day I just casually made some tomato sauce

mighty stump
#

Theyre incredibly strict about

#

Everything

#

Lol

polar canyon
#

My mom tried it, then had the rest of my family try it then decided we should start selling it because it's too good

mighty stump
#

Like its hard to get in

#

I only got in since vets are high demand

polar canyon
#

And it made me super proud because I may have a thing for cooking and should work on the skill

#

Still looking for somewhere with a non professional-focused in person cooking class

#

Another day my mom got to schedule a collab with an artisanal pasta selling lady

#

That's after we started selling my sauce, and she asked me to come up with some new special recipe

#

Some days later were also selling the special spicy sausage tomato sauce

#

And it also made me really proud of my cooking

#

No one's gonna care about my story but I love telling it

#

Anyways I kinda wanted to try lunala but after playing pagos it honestly feels like a less good version in some ways

#

There's the calm mind and the meteor beam sets, the extra thing is that it can also do tr

next stump
#

be proud of your talents, that's a really cool skill you have

polar canyon
#

Thanks

#

Sadly we had to stop selling my sauce because tomatoes rose a lot in price around here

next stump
#

i used to be the same way but then another teacher at the school i teach at leaked that i am going to worlds

#

and my school newspaper wanted to interview me lol

chrome knot
#

ngl id say no

polar canyon
#

Same

next stump
#

some of the questions were super cringe hahaha

polar canyon
#

I'd probably regret saying no too

#

But I know in that position I'd probably say no

nocturne holly
next stump
#

"what would you do if a student challenged you to a battle"

nocturne holly
#

lmaoooo

next stump
#

the obvious answer is shit on them

#

but couldnt say that

nocturne holly
#

Whatd you say

polar canyon
#

Probably yes right?

next stump
#

yeah I said that I'd be happy to battle them and if they win they should also play IRL tournaments

#

something like that

mighty stump
#

Lol

polar canyon
#

I don't wanna make too big of a deal out of my cooking

mighty stump
#

After writing my post i felt a big weight off my shoulders

polar canyon
#

It's just a hobby

mighty stump
#

And how like

#

I don’t necessarily want to be recognised

#

Just respected

#

And I think that goes for essentially everyone in everything

nocturne holly
polar canyon
nocturne holly
#

ok but

#

like imo the initial curve in vgc is crazy high

polar canyon
#

Did that ever inspire something of a competitive pokemon scene in your school

polar canyon
next stump
#

not really, teenagers in america nowadays are just into other games usually

polar canyon
#

To me I think it's more of a spectrum

next stump
#

rainbow 6, valorant, etc.

polar canyon
#

Real

#

Pokemon is either for kids or for adults

chrome knot
#

valorant ow2 league rocket league are big for collegiate esports rn

polar canyon
#

I should look for the comp players in my uni lol

next stump
#

the average IRL VGC player is literally like 26 with a full time job

#

it's kinda crazy

polar canyon
#

I'm sure there's some

next stump
#

maybe even older than that tbh

#

it's cool because i know i can keep this hobby for a while

polar canyon
#

Honestly the spot I'm in with comp is awkward

polar canyon
#

I wanna improve but I don't want it enough to put effort into it just yet

#

Because there's more things to do

mighty stump
#

Then don’t

mighty stump
#

Just enjoy whatever you’re doing

polar canyon
#

Good point

polar canyon
#

The exception

chrome knot
#

what da the avg vgc player is so old

mighty stump
#

The suffering point is when you put too much pressure to perform for things that, in the long run, don’t really matter

nocturne holly
#

I think the nostalgia plays a factor in like the age

polar canyon
#

Absolutely

balmy glen
#

Idk what to do with ma life tho just graduated high school lowk Pokémon is a stress reliever

bold geode
next stump
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you gotta have desposable income or rich parents to really play VGC competitively IRL

mighty stump
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Like I love Pokemon as the franchise

polar canyon
mighty stump
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VGC is just the way I get to express that passion

polar canyon
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The average teenager doesn't admit they are a huge pokemon fan

mighty stump
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The last thing I wanna do after working 9-7 is to hit my head against the meta to try and break it when I have other things to do as well

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So balance

bold geode
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Lol

mighty stump
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Also is it really a kids game

balmy glen
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I feel like if I get washed on my come up in vgc I’ll just make a unite team with friends loool

polar canyon
mighty stump
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Feel like all games are kids games atp

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Yeah but what do teens know

bold geode
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The game is like "time to torture yourself again" and Tofu's like "yes dear"

mighty stump
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all teens know is tiktok and depression

balmy glen
mighty stump
balmy glen
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true 😔

mighty stump
bold geode
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Damn he kinda onto something

balmy glen
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look at my profile I’m like a little kid

chrome knot
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i thought you were my ahe

balmy glen
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LMAO

chrome knot
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not 2 years younger what the hellllll

mighty stump
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ngl tho

polar canyon
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I'd have thought that too if I didn't know you were younger

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No offense lol

mighty stump
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Whats with teens and kids nowadays looking way older than I did when I was their age

bold geode
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Emma you're 2 years younger than me?

mighty stump
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Like

balmy glen
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what

chrome knot
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im only 20

balmy glen
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I get that I look like a little kid from everyone my age

balmy glen
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Your guys reactions are the total opposite of kids my age lol

mighty stump
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I looked like 16 at 23 and got ID’d everywhere until I got tattoos

bold geode
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Does Keanu suffer from baby face?

polar canyon
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I think I've always looked my age

mighty stump
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i only look my age now

balmy glen
polar canyon
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I think I've always acted immature tho which I'm currently working on

bold geode
polar canyon
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Explains why a lot of my friends are younger than me

mighty stump
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I had to gain weight

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Lol

bold geode
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I was 20 and people thought I was 16

mighty stump
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Then I grew facial hair

balmy glen
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If I grow out my beard and mustache for more than 2 weeks people tell me I look 25. If I shave people tell me I look 13

bold geode
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Lmao

polar canyon
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People don't think I'm younger because of my height

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And I'm not like tall by a global standard but people where I live are short

bold geode
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I had a basketball coach who if he shaved looked like fucking Sheldon from Big Bang Theory

polar canyon
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So I'm technically pretty tall

mighty stump
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It's been a long time coming but I can for once say I like myself

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Lol

bold geode
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But thing is he'd never shave so when he did, it looked weird

polar canyon
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I enjoy being me

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And a year ago I would've never thought I would

bold geode
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I remember first time I saw him without a beard, I stared at him for like 2 minutes

mighty stump
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Like

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I like my look, I like my fashion, I like my hobbies and my job

polar canyon
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People who look awesome with a big beard always look like the andrew tate wojak when they shave

nocturne holly
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Nah my hair is wild

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I have a mullet 😭😭

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I’m really self conscious about my hair

bold geode
polar canyon
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Once a hair stylist gave me a mullet I didn't ask for and I was self conscious about it for a month

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The curly mullet

chrome knot
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i look so gross bc im trying to grow out my hair lol

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so for now ive put it in a ponytail