competitive_discussion

[patent marsh]

I mean nobody is stopping you

But it's going to be an uphill battle

So can't really expect it to go over too well

[vital zephyr]

Yeah I know …

[patent marsh]

The next best thing is a perish trap team ig

[cyan smelt]

The pex also gets wide guard

One of these days I want to try hisuian electrode, chloroblast looks like a funny move

[vital zephyr]

Okay so I made my decision I will build a sand team !!!

Any good ideas for it 🙂 cause I like it’s not so often played yet

[cyan smelt]

Ttar, Zama, and you want something to deal with flutter and chi yu and terapagos and miraidon

[autumn vault]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2157779517-g37vj8512ejmchoir0ns2k4wi50sinbpw Alolan Ninetales sweep

[cyan smelt]

You'll also want something to manually change the weather back to sand in case it gets overridden

[autumn vault]

https://pokepast.es/7c263311c6ec4485 https://pokepast.es/35db42d4d49a2f57 https://pokepast.es/6b48aa6862a936c1
Here are some team examples, also pls don't run Tera Rock on Zamazenta sand

[autumn vault]

I am personally against this

Sand will only benefit tyranitar

Zamazenta and Safety Goggles pokemon do not benefit from it

Plus you are using a valuable move slot

Don't worry, i know Sand way better than him

And trust me, doing that is not worth it

[cyan smelt]

Why didn't they use flare blitz on a9

[autumn vault]

Probably to have a useful stab move even in the rain

Some incineroar don't do it

it's only 33% used rn

[cyan smelt]

At least it wasn't overheat incin

[autumn vault]

Oh yeah, that could have been worse

[cyan smelt]

Dunno why the lunala didn't tera as soon as you sent out chi yu

[autumn vault]

True

This is also my brand new Showdown background

[cyan smelt]

Wonder why that graphic didn't have smeargle muk

[autumn vault]

probably because it's super hated

You are talking about this right?

[cyan smelt]

I hated mausape back in reg a because even a neutral rage fist from beat up would ohko spiritomb

And yes

[autumn vault]

I was a MausApe player back then

I got a 6 win streak with it in Master Ball

It made me go from Top 6000 to Top 3000

[cyan smelt]

Mausape and palafin were my most hated

[autumn vault]

Ironically i used both of those

[cyan smelt]

In hindsight it was bad to run double ghost and double fire

[vital zephyr]

LOL this ninetales game wanna play me snow 🙂 ninetales looks so amazing 🤩

[cyan smelt]

A9 kyurem-w is pretty good

[autumn vault]

It is

[cyan smelt]

I wanna use skeledirge again

I love the fire croc

[vital zephyr]

Do you have other replays of nintetales would be awesome

[autumn vault]

I don't have many of them

And i'm playing a match rn

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2157718802?p2 https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2157779517
But i do have these

[vital zephyr]

Thank you very much

[gentle crag]

miouwx has given 1 Gen Rep to lycopoky

[autumn vault]

No worries

I am always glad to help

I accidentaly attacked my own A9

I meant to attack CIR with fusion flare

Never attack your own pokemon unless you are playing beat up rage fist

[cyan smelt]

Or beat up justified

Or trying to trigger wp

[autumn vault]

Or any beat up shenanigans

And Weakness Policy

[cyan smelt]

Also damn kyurem-w did so much damage to those resists

[vital zephyr]

It’s monster XD

[autumn vault]

Thats why i love specs

I barely won that thanks to a crit

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2157786348-elro6iwkobe7z90tu3uckkjl0xmktwhpw

Lesson of the day: Never click on your partner when preparing an attack unless it's related to a strategy

Well, i'm back to 1500 elo

[vital zephyr]

Awesome 👏

[autumn vault]

I have got to 1500 elo before

I want to get to 1600 elo

[vital zephyr]

Understand 🙂

[cyan smelt]

Rockpon is goated

[autumn vault]

Cornerstone is very good

[cyan smelt]

Free focus sash is very clutch

[autumn vault]

Yeah

And a 1.2 power boost

[mighty stump]

GXE is quite low though

I assume this is main?

[autumn vault]

Yeah

It is

I have also been testing some random things

[mighty stump]

yeah my mains tend to be lower cuz of random testing too

[modern harbor]

do i hyper train farigiraf speed?

[mighty stump]

Unless you need it to be 0 spe for a reason

Otherwise idt its necessary lol

Esp with some CIRs not being 0 Spe

[modern harbor]

ok i didnt know if its better since it has trick room yk?

[mighty stump]

Even so you’re generally still slower than most of the meta that you care about, and can’t underspeed the ones that matter

Its up to you

Preference imo

[autumn vault]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2157792117 lol

Yes i lost 3 times in a row but it's just been rng and some unexpected moves being used

[modern harbor]

also does zamazenta need much speed investment?

[mighty stump]

Preferrably to outspeed Chi-Yu

Imo

[modern harbor]

im have both tr and tailwind optuons

i see

am i aiming to outspeed 252+ chi yu?

[autumn vault]

Yeah

Jolly 36 is enough

[modern harbor]

that's 167 right

speed stat

[mighty stump]

Don't go Jolly lol

[modern harbor]

wouldnt u run impish lol

[autumn vault]

Yeah thats the issue

156 Speed outspeeds Chi-Yu

No +Spe nature involved

[balmy glen]

ive never been so happy to get to top 500 ladder before since going so tryhard ive felt like it should be a given for me. But, my phanpy team finally hit top 500 so we're gaming

[modern harbor]

do people not run +spe on fish?

[autumn vault]

They do

Just not on Scarf sets

[modern harbor]

ohh

so wait what speed stat am i aiming for then

156 or 168

[autumn vault]

168 consistently outspeeds Chi-Yu Timid

The EVs required for zama is 156

Which hits 168 Speed

[cyan smelt]

That's why I was struggling against chi yu because Zama wasn't fast enough

[autumn vault]

I run 68 speed which outspeeds 90 + Speed Nature

But i run Tera Rock and Tyranitar so thats why i don't outspeed the fish

Yeah it's niche ik

[modern harbor]

anything i should be trying to live?

[autumn vault]

Idk

Max HP is most ideal for Zamazenta

[modern harbor]

oh fr?

[autumn vault]

Yeah

Plus Zama is very bulky

You can go 252 Hp and 100 Special Defense to live Earth Power from Landorus INcarnate but it's not that common rn

I would go 252 HP 4 Attack 76 Defense 20 Special Defense 156 Speed

Zamazenta-Crowned @ Rusted Shield
Ability: Dauntless Shield
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass / Water
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 76 Def / 20 SpD / 156 Spe
Impish Nature

• Heavy Slam
• Body Press
• Iron Defense / Wide Guard
• Protect

You can choose between Iron Defense and Wide Guard

[modern harbor]

oh thats close to what i had

[autumn vault]

Depends on the team, more Hyper offensive teams are better off with Wide Guard while more Zama reliant teams would run Iron Defense

Tera Grass and Tera Water are both great Tera options

[modern harbor]

im doing grass

wait not like that 😭

https://pokepast.es/872588b1d97d2ee6

this is what im working with so far

[autumn vault]

The team looks a bit inneficient EV wise

And also you need EVs on Whim and farig

[modern harbor]

that's why i said so far 😭

i havent done much yet i just had help putting together the actual mons a bit ago and havent worked on it much

[modern harbor]

the shifu and flutter i just threw on the generic evs that my ingame ones had

are at least pao and zamazenta fine?

[autumn vault]

Yeah, they are fine

for urshifu, you can go 252 Attack 252 Speed and 4 on Hp

[modern harbor]

i'll try that

he kinda sometimes clutches by living on 10% tho

[autumn vault]

If you want a bulky set you can go 92 hp 156 attack 4 defense 4 special defense 252 speed

Survives astral barrage

[modern harbor]

how much does surging strikes do to caly ghost

like is it worth taking that hit or is it a misplay either way

[autumn vault]

252 Atk Mystic Water Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Calyrex-Shadow Rider on a critical hit: 147-174 (83.5 - 98.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
156 Atk Mystic Water Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Calyrex-Shadow Rider on a critical hit: 135-162 (76.7 - 92%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Not much

252+ Atk Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Calyrex-Shadow Rider on a critical hit: 135-162 (76.7 - 92%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
156+ Atk Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Calyrex-Shadow Rider on a critical hit: 126-147 (71.5 - 83.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[modern harbor]

would aqua jet finish off from any of those ranges?

[autumn vault]

It can be worth tanking it

156+ Atk Urshifu-Rapid Strike Aqua Jet vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Calyrex-Shadow Rider: 42-51 (23.8 - 28.9%) -- 96.3% chance to 4HKO
252+ Atk Urshifu-Rapid Strike Aqua Jet vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Calyrex-Shadow Rider: 46-55 (26.1 - 31.2%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

[ivory girder]

Hi so I'm now trying to work on Snacksworth and his non shiny legends and I'm curious as to which is better, Ice or Shadow Rider? Iirc it takes on Calyrex's IVs

[autumn vault]

It can

[autumn vault]

Both are really good

But generally shadow rider is

[modern harbor]

if i have a chance to live a hit and knock out that could be a really valuable way to at least have a chance to win if i get walled by a shadow rider team

[autumn vault]

You can also just use Tera Water to ohko it

[modern harbor]

it outspeeds tho right?

[autumn vault]

With scarf? Yes

[ivory girder]

Alrighty thanks how about the other fusions though, what form of Kyurem and Necrozma are better?

[gentle crag]

grid.9 has given 1 Gen Rep to lycopoky

[autumn vault]

Dawn wings is better than dusk mane

[modern harbor]

iirc white and dawn

[autumn vault]

Kyurem white is way better than black

[ivory girder]

Okay thanks, now to find a 0atk of them

[modern harbor]

so with 4 252 252 couldnt i just tera, get cucked by scarf and 1 shot?

[next stump]

Lycopoky meant Urhsifu with scarf outspeeds Caly-S

[modern harbor]

oh

im just thinking i should run a bulkier set so if im cornered i can at least count on urshifu to take it out and live on 1

but idk about committing tera and using scarf; i like the protect option

pao should let shifu ohko anyways right?

[balmy glen]

I’ve done it

I figured out a new Zama core

[dark juniper]

Is there a way to get 0 speed if ursaluna with only scarlet?

[patent marsh]

breed one teddiursa with 0 speed evolve it into ursaring then send it back to PLA, evolve it there then send it back to SV
if it's Blood moon, then you just need to keep resetting until you get 0 speed with auto save turned off

basically normal ursaluna will need PLA regardless

blood moon you just gotta keep resetting yourself

[next stump]

sure but usually they have something like Clefairy for redirection support

so you’d have to get through that to actually hit the caly

[modern harbor]

hmm

does armor tail block follow me?

[mighty stump]

No

Only priority moves targetted towards the side that has armor tail

[modern harbor]

what's the best way to get through that then... i always struggle with redirect 😭

[mighty stump]

Spread moves

Kill the Follow Me user

Taunt it

[modern harbor]

maybe swap/lead with whimsicott?

[next stump]

whimsicott into clef/caly is bad because they’ll get off a free follow me + nasty plot

[modern harbor]

i mean i could carry taunt and torment?

wait

[next stump]

urshifu + chien-pao isnt terrible, but without scarf on urshifu you’re going to be eating either two unboosted hits or one +2 hit

[modern harbor]

encore**

couldnt I taunt clef anticipating nasty plot, protect shifu, then encore turn 2 into caly?

if they dont nasty plot i can always tera water and ohko right?

[chrome knot]

erm what da tuna

[next stump]

depends on if the calyrex is bulky, but i’d say most calyrex would die to a tera water surging strikes

[modern harbor]

if i see clef caly on team sheet should i just lead those two and hope for that lead?

or do they often not lead caly

[next stump]

it mostly depends on your 6 and if they feel like caly + clef is a safe lead

[lofty tartan]

👀

[junior patrol]

Yeah I'm looking for help in building my first team

[next stump]

singles or doubles?

[junior patrol]

Doubles

[next stump]

do you have a starting point you’re interested in? like a restricted or core you like?

[junior patrol]

Dawn Wings TR with Hydrapple.

[next stump]

https://tenor.com/view/look-holy-moly-omg-whoa-gif-22960590

I can honestly say I have seen exactly 0 hydrapple in this format

but I have seen necrozma DW a decent amount

[junior patrol]

Yeah I noticed them a lot and I think Hydrapple could pair well with them

[chrome knot]

it dont

[craggy dagger]

no harm in trying but if you’re making a tr team you’ll prolly not bring hydrapple since it’ll be out-slowed in tr by ice rider

[autumn vault]

I'm liking my Kyurem-W team so far

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2157904815-793alu7g396jii5k2p5btzvu2v7ych6pw lol

[strange fjord]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2157904501
Any team works if you're confident enough lol

[bold geode]

Hai Nova

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

gimmick character

[autumn vault]

Very CTS team you have there

I like it

[craggy dagger]

absolutely yes-
and that team looks fun to play

[autumn vault]

Tomorrow i have to make progress on my Specs Kyogre rental and the Kyurem-White rental

[craggy dagger]

that pikachu living at 1% was-
either lucky or it was calced-

[strange fjord]

252 Atk Tyranitar Rock Slide vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Pikachu: 96-114 (87.2 - 103.6%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO

huh

Im assuming Jolly bc sash

[autumn vault]

Clear Amulet, assault vest >>>

[chrome knot]

has cir & rilla on his team

[bold geode]

I bite back

[junior patrol]

So who should I bring cause I'm working on updating the team to have a restricted like Dawn Wings. I can show you my team and stuff

[craggy dagger]

please do show the team you’re working on-
it’ll be hard to work out improvements without knowing what the team is

[chrome knot]

@craggy dagger ur replays made proud today

[bold geode]

We doin team shit ooooh

[craggy dagger]

eh-?

[chrome knot]

look in ur chat

[junior patrol]

Ninetales-Alola, DuskWings, Armarouge is where I'm at right now

[next stump]

Take a look at these Necrozma DW teams

[solid frigate]

Terapagos:I hate this so much-

[next stump]

These are the best performing tournament ones and I think the synergies make a lot of sense

Psychic terrain and redirection to help get up TR, Gallade to deal with Incin, Torkoal + Lilligant can give you a fast mode (Ogerpon can sub in for Lilli)

[chrome knot]

@next stump whens ur match this week?

[next stump]

probably sunday morning but my opponent lives in korea and has a job so its lowkey a nightmare to schedule

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/e3451d3c02c9e406

I think i did something weird but i need to edit this team

[chrome knot]

oh jesus

[mighty stump]

Mine is this Friday

[bold geode]

I find the Entei odd for some reason idk why

[solid frigate]

idk i just need to rehaul the team cuz its too damn Stally

[dapper crag]

Move: Quiver Dance

Raises the user's Special Attack, Special Defense, and Speed by 1 stage.

Type

Bug

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

20 (32)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Dance

Triggers Dancer.

Snatch

Affected by Snatch.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[nocturne holly]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2157944158-4ncfchunqikoi64mtwj5ih4wo96v481pw does anyone know why the volc became confused on the second turn

[solid frigate]

hurricane has chance to confuse opponent

[chrome knot]

hurricane

[nocturne holly]

oh yeaaaaaaaaa

I don’t think the confusion mattered there too much tho

[junior patrol]

How do you look these up?

[next stump]

labmaus.net

[craggy dagger]

i really don’t know about a9 and dawn wings together

[solid frigate]

i don't like it as much

[bold geode]

Those 3 kinda sound thrown together no offense

Actually NDW and Arma not as much
A9 though is for sure a little weird

[autumn vault]

These teams are the perfect example of "corporate needs you to find the differences between this picture and this picture,
They are the same picture" meme

Very identical

[cedar crow]

I don't play compet but Torkoal is viable?

[autumn vault]

It is

[cedar crow]

intersting...out of any Pokemon I would not expect Torkoal of all creatures

[bold geode]

Torkoal is viable as either a TR sweeper or sort of a "support" as a sun setter (you'll see more of the sweeper RN for sure)

[autumn vault]

Torkoal has Drought and Eruption

And unlike Groudon has the fire type which makes the eruptions pretty strong

And also a slow pokemon that underspeeds everything

Which is very beneficial in Trick Room

[cedar crow]

oh...I was following up till now, but what does Trick room do?

[autumn vault]

And you can also use Lilligant-Hisui's after you to mitigate the speed issue

[cedar crow]

like in simple terms

[bold geode]

Basically reverses speeds

[autumn vault]

reverses the turn order

Except priority/negative priority moves

[bold geode]

So instead of faster going before slower, it's slower before faster
Basically slow become fast

[cedar crow]

ohhhh! that makes perfect sense, and I see why that would be broken with a low speed, hard hitting Pokemon

[mighty stump]

That wording is confusing lol

It reverses the turn order for every priority bracket from slowest > fastest

[cedar crow]

actually I understand this perfectly

[autumn vault]

I tried to explain in a simple way myself

[cedar crow]

and you did...thanks.

[gentle crag]

jamesd9999 has given 1 Gen Rep to lycopoky

[autumn vault]

Your welcome

[mighty stump]

the way you said it makes it sound like priority moves won’t be affected when there is a turn order within those brackets as well

[cedar crow]

so a high proity move would become low, and a low would become high, while Trick room is active?

[autumn vault]

No

They are unnafected

[mighty stump]

No, moves act within priority brackets, with regular moves having a bracket of 0. Most priority moves work within a +1 bracket, there are others in +2 and +3 and so forth

These moves still act according to turn order based off speed

[bold geode]

No
Basically so like you got a Fake Out on one side and a Fake Out on theirs
Both +3 priority, but yours goes first cuz you're faster
In TR, theirs goes first

[cedar crow]

got it, good explaination

[mighty stump]

So a scenario that can be relevant would be Fake Outs from Incin that is usually slower than a Rillaboom Fake Out, is going to beat Rilla’s FO in TR

Or whatever Monke said.

[cedar crow]

I get it now

[mighty stump]

This can also matter for orders between Fake Out and Wide Guard

As pedantic as it is, it’s pretty necessary to know

[junior patrol]

Well I was going to use Ninetales for aurora veil and helping hand

Should I use Farigraf instead?

[craggy dagger]

that would be better if you’re planning to run slow dawn wings

[junior patrol]

Also I was going to switch out Hydrapple for regular Ursaluna

[junior patrol]

Using Farigraf?

[craggy dagger]

yep

[junior patrol]

Ok then. So should I replace TR on DawnWings or keep it?

[nocturne holly]

What restricted are you guys using

Prob gonna do kyogre or cir next

[bold geode]

Messing with Zacian, might do CSR? 🤷‍♂️

[junior patrol]

I'm using DawnWings rn

[nocturne holly]

It’s so easy to replace Zac with cir
I might just do that with my Zac team

[nocturne holly]

Wait how do you filter teams like that

[autumn vault]

I'm using Kyurem-White rn

[junior patrol]

My TR team so far after some reconsidering is : Ursaluna, Ogerpon, Incin, Farigiraf, Dawn Wings, and Ninetales

[next stump]

just go to the find teams area and search for a pokemon

[nocturne holly]

Thx

[gentle crag]

.begulajr. has given 1 Gen Rep to mlbd

[nocturne holly]

@bold geode https://pokepast.es/d89f676e215d5902 would the top work on this
I want another FO and wide guard

Or mienshao could be cool

[chrome knot]

@next stump i got cooked by psyspam oops

guess this’ll be a gimmick league

[next stump]

i miss the days of reg B and C where I’d just pray I didn’t run into psyspam cause I never had a great matchup for it

simpler times

[chrome knot]

just such a boring archetype

[bold geode]

Could work
Idk about double Intimidate though, might dump Incin tbh
I think if you keep Incin, you'd just go Mienshao cuz Incin can still overshadow the Top even with Wide Guard access

[chrome knot]

easiest path to being stagnant

[nocturne holly]

Wbt chi yu over incin if I go for top

I kinda want incin for the tr mode tho

[solid frigate]

i do think Reg B and Reg C team provide more in depth

[molten oasis]

I feel like I put that in your head lol

Oh CIR

I thought- nvm

I do remember saying CSR is replaceable for Zac on a few teams

[nocturne holly]

Nah tbh both

But just looking at Zac and cir teams they’re pretty similar

ex. Patrick’s naic team

I have almost the same team except I have Zac over cir

And umbreon over incin

[molten oasis]

Ig

I have to take another semester of English, I hate generals

[solid frigate]

F

[molten oasis]

Now

I hope it’s not as boring as English 1010 but who knows

I fail to understand why I need to know how to write essays for cybersecurity

It is what it is

[solid frigate]

oh well it happens

[bold geode]

Could work
Top is kinda slow

[nocturne holly]

Yea I want a faster Mon for a fast mode
My thoughts are peli, rilla, mienshao, and lando

or tbh flutter but I want some more damage

https://pokepast.es/d89f676e215d5902

[molten oasis]

If you want flutter could try specs

For more damage

[nocturne holly]

I don’t like flutter in the meta rn

it feels pretty bad

[molten oasis]

I could care less about flutter im hitting it with bblade

Most flutters are speed control

And general damage

[bronze vessel]

whats the best item for my poliwrath

[nocturne holly]

Exactly so many things can say that

[solid frigate]

why poliwrath

[molten oasis]

Heh I think hilariously enough I click PR more than Bblade

Fsiry is so nice offensively

[solid frigate]

i mean,it hit a lot of things for Neutral and Steel is regarded as more of a Defensive Typing

[molten oasis]

Yea

Although I still don’t like relying on it

It’s time for the monthly favorite Pokémon picker

[solid frigate]

tho Fairy accels at both offensively and defensively lmao

[molten oasis]

True

Hence, fairy steel being the best defensive type

[solid frigate]

offensively is Ground and Ice or Electric or Ice

[molten oasis]

Ground and ice imo

[solid frigate]

i mean fair point

Calyrex Ice and Mamoswine did that to me before

tho i still have a soft spot for Water and Steel

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/35a739b24c1f33e2 ok so ive dne a few matches

results, bad

and i think ive found a problem

[solid frigate]

why not just Tera Water Urshifu with Mystic Water

Or heck Safety Goggles

[timber falcon]

cause with sash i guarantee live a hit i wanna live

[solid frigate]

Incin can go for AV and Swap Rilla with someone else

[timber falcon]

which is most of the time

[timber falcon]

???

[solid frigate]

My urshifu lives quite a lot of stuff

[timber falcon]

not with max speed or attack though

[solid frigate]

well not Electric Moves but still

[timber falcon]

maybe 1 idk the set

[solid frigate]

Kasandra (Urshifu-Rapid-Strike) @ Mystic Water
Ability: Unseen Fist
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 196 HP / 100 Atk / 4 Def / 164 SpD / 44 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Surging Strikes
• Close Combat
• Taunt
• Detect

[timber falcon]

but why

[solid frigate]

its Weird to see Rayquaza HO without Chien Pao

just Sayin

[timber falcon]

its not needed

nor did it fit with the teams main core

so i left it out

lemme show core

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/7643bf7106dda18c

I just use this Rayquaza team

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/284347457e6f73b8

[timber falcon]

im not tryna run HO per say

[solid frigate]

no wonder,its also electabuzz,i see

[timber falcon]

electabuzz has been doing everything i need it to do perfectly.

its not a problem

[solid frigate]

i just run Rayquaza+Chien Pao+Entei Core with Ogerpon Support

[solid frigate]

but like what do you think the problem is

[timber falcon]

flutter

and chien pao

[solid frigate]

me?

[timber falcon]

against me

i think i might go scarf shifu tbh

[solid frigate]

its good

i think without Sash its fine

just run Scarf

also i am tempting to run Choice Band Rayquaza with Earthquake

[timber falcon]

but like, swords dance is just better for damage and not locking urself into moves

[solid frigate]

fair

[autumn vault]

try harder

[timber falcon]

let me cook

[solid frigate]

wait where is my Miraidon team

[timber falcon]

also which team is this

[solid frigate]

Kyurem White

[autumn vault]

https://pokepast.es/de833d1ca23cd182

[timber falcon]

well im a bit dumb

[autumn vault]

Yes i am aware of the 4x rock weakness

It hasn't been a big problem for me

[timber falcon]

duh

[autumn vault]

I mean it isn't that common rn

[timber falcon]

who uses rock type moves except meteor beam nowadays

[solid frigate]

meanwhile me with Boulder:

[autumn vault]

Outside of Cornerstone Ogerpon

[solid frigate]

Ogerpon,Boulder(Am i the only one who uses it),Meteor beam mons

[calm gulch]

where is he

[autumn vault]

Wait boulder would actually break my team apart

[calm gulch]

[solid frigate]

Kyogre:

https://tenor.com/view/kyogre-kyogresmile-pokemon-pokemon-smile-kyogre-creepy-gif-19828510

[calm gulch]

#BullyMonke #MonkeAsmr

[timber falcon]

i think that

[autumn vault]

Ogerpon C:

Snowscape torn

[timber falcon]

tinkaton could work

[solid frigate]

the funny thing is

I actually don't struggle against Ogerpon out of all things

[autumn vault]

Odd

[solid frigate]

Tera Grass Baby

[autumn vault]

Oh yeah i forgot to mention but i have Freeze Dry on Kyurem-W

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/2292e0e3f2f94480

[autumn vault]

I am well prepare against Kyogre

[timber falcon]

AV kyogre after eating that for breakfast:

[solid frigate]

i mean i fucking destroyed Creph's Team with just Thunder Wave lol

[autumn vault]

lol

He's definitely still angry about that

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/aesthetic-skull-gif-20895944

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/kyogre-kyogresmile-pokemon-pokemon-smile-kyogre-creepy-gif-19828510

[autumn vault]

But my team is very well prepared for AV Kyogre

[timber falcon]

oh yeah what you guys think about tinkaton

[solid frigate]

I'm bringing Kyogre to my Server's Tournament

[autumn vault]

You can't have a good MU into everything

[solid frigate]

i used it on the draft Tournament,pretty good ngl

[autumn vault]

I'm planning to bring Kyurem-W to a tournament i will participate soon

In the 12th and 13th

[nocturne holly]

whattt
Complete Opposite for me
I barely click pr tbh

[molten oasis]

Well

[timber falcon]

im thinking about some AV set

[molten oasis]

Apparently I like Grimmsnarl a lot more than I thought

[solid frigate]

i used this set for me
T4 (Tinkaton) (F) @ Aguav Berry
Ability: Mold Breaker
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 44 Atk / 116 Def / 92 SpD / 4 Spe
Impish Nature

• Fake Out
• Gigaton Hammer
• Knock Off
• Thunder Wave

[autumn vault]

Not AV

[solid frigate]

ik

but i just use this set cuz i like to use Thunder Wave

[molten oasis]

Hydrspple got demoted by Grimmsnarl lol

[autumn vault]

Also i made an emoji on a server i am a part of

[molten oasis]

And Zac

[solid frigate]

Grimmsnarl is just fun lmao

[molten oasis]

It’s so cute

Little menace right there

[solid frigate]

B U R N I T

[autumn vault]

lol

[autumn vault]

Burn it into the depths of hell

[molten oasis]

That and like I was looking and just went “yea I like fairies a lot more than I thought”

Even tho there’s more dragons

[timber falcon]

Tinkaton @ Assault Vest
Ability: Mold Breaker
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 180 HP / 124 Atk / 108 Def / 4 SpD / 92 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Fake Out
• Gigaton Hammer
• Feint
• Play Rough

[molten oasis]

My top 2 are both fairies and then 4 and 6 are also fairies

[timber falcon]

when in doubt, just take a set from munchstats

[autumn vault]

252+ SpA Choice Specs Turboblaze Kyurem-White Helping Hand Freeze-Dry vs. 252 HP / 76 SpD Assault Vest Kyogre: 170-204 (82.1 - 98.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
LMAO @solid frigate

[molten oasis]

When in doubt make your own

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-beocord-no-lol-gif-24435520

[molten oasis]

Yiu need helping hand but that’s a major chunk

[autumn vault]

Nearly OHKOs

[molten oasis]

Yea

[autumn vault]

Which is hilarious for AV Kyogre

[molten oasis]

My version of that

[solid frigate]

I mean... its 170 SpA

[molten oasis]

Zacian at top, miraidon kyogre CIR the tier below, everything else at the bottom

[autumn vault]

With specs

[solid frigate]

love how we both use Blue or Purple Restricteds

[autumn vault]

Even without Helping Hand it still does above 50%

[solid frigate]

yeah... I'm bringing boulder.

[autumn vault]

If you ever face me, that is

[solid frigate]

i mean in THAT Tourney,Y E S

[autumn vault]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-smirk-shrek-sus-shrek-smile-gif-4983018699107868283

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/iron-boulder-mighty-cleave-pokemon-pokemon-paradox-gif-13432576137702441758

i mean i can also bring Terrakion

in replace of boulder but idk

the thing is that it can't hit through protect

[autumn vault]

Pls don

*dont

I could only counter it with One mon when with boulder it would be two instead

[solid frigate]

no i mean replace boulder with the OG one

[spiral pawn]

Uhhhh, I .think. my team is good https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2158066998

[solid frigate]

but i think Boulder is better

[molten oasis]

Blue restricteds are pretty consistently better

[timber falcon]

i think, that caly-i should have some speed control with it ,tr is advised

[molten oasis]

Needs*

[spiral pawn]

Tailwind articuno

[solid frigate]

honestly,like being my favourite Colour is Blue,i'm profiting

[timber falcon]

pokepaste?

[spiral pawn]

I gotcha

[autumn vault]

Where?

[spiral pawn]

https://pokepast.es/0383bcaf2f7b6a09

[solid frigate]

252 atk Incin-

[chrome knot]

holy this is bad

[solid frigate]

What the fu

[chrome knot]

i needa rewind time to before i clicked that paste

[autumn vault]

What the hell am i seeing?

[spiral pawn]

The incin?

[solid frigate]

Amongus i can get behind

BUT CALYREX ICE WITH THIS EVS

[autumn vault]

Everything

[solid frigate]

WHAT THE FUCK-

[timber falcon]

ok some things need some changes, the evs arent looking the best (optimal)

[chrome knot]

8evs in hp btw

[solid frigate]

i wanna die

[spiral pawn]

Spedy boi

[chrome knot]

in a 4(+8) formula lol

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 898: Calyrex-Ice

Types

Psychic/Ice

Abilities

As One (Glastrier)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/165/150/85/130/50

Total

680

Base Species

Calyrex

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[autumn vault]

I think you need a lot of advice sir

[solid frigate]

its not fast

[timber falcon]

i feel like theyre some better options for speedy csr

[autumn vault]

Because what the hell was i seeing

[timber falcon]

tw wise

[autumn vault]

Just use max HP Trick Room

[chrome knot]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-krabs-eyes-clean-shine-spongebob-gif-16260550

[autumn vault]

Forget about speed

[solid frigate]

do you need Holy Water

[spiral pawn]

What other restricted fits in this team

[autumn vault]

Kyurem-White is a good one

[timber falcon]

Frostie, what team are you tryna build?

[spiral pawn]

Other than kyrem

[autumn vault]

And fits in better imo

[solid frigate]

honestly

None,you have to build a team based on the Restricteds

[autumn vault]

I Don't Know

Calyrex Ice is ok ig

[solid frigate]

but EVs are just

[spiral pawn]

People won’t expect it

[solid frigate]

questions my sanity

[autumn vault]

https://tenor.com/view/bang-atomic-tree-forest-fire-gif-9016777

[solid frigate]

not this again-

[spiral pawn]

With tailwind it’s not that slow for what it is

[timber falcon]

they might lol, you have no tr mons apart from caly

[autumn vault]

Cheese elements like that it's usually not worth it

Kyurem-White fits in so well

[solid frigate]

with tailwind it can't even outspeed Calyrex Shadow for fuck sake

[autumn vault]

And black ig

But white is way better

[timber falcon]

first off, what kinda team are you looking for?

[solid frigate]

Tofu on his way to shove his Kyurem Black team to Ladder

[spiral pawn]

They won’t have calculated what a spedy calyrax ice in tailwind outspeeds

[autumn vault]

Barely

[autumn vault]

Just use baxcalibur at that point

[solid frigate]

its quite Easy honestly

[autumn vault]

It does the exact same thing as Kyurem-B does, but slightly better

[solid frigate]

224 but then again

If he does that Say hello to TR

[spiral pawn]

Restricted: ✌️

[autumn vault]

Atleast Zekrom and Reshiram have other mons that do a different thing (bolt, mirai and gouging)
Bax and Kyurem-b do the same thing and use the same offensive stat

[timber falcon]

in reg G its highly advised to build around the restricted than to slap it on some random team that was meant for another

first think about the restricted you wanna use

[spiral pawn]

私が何をした

[timber falcon]

[molten oasis]

Nah it’s funny

[timber falcon]

so u wanna use calyrex-ice?

[spiral pawn]

Yes

[solid frigate]

Max HP Max Attack Min Def TR boom boom we done

[molten oasis]

???

[timber falcon]

what kind of set, reccomend clear amulet and tr team

[molten oasis]

Min defense???

[timber falcon]

as theyre quite optimal for the mon

[autumn vault]

Probably meant min speed

[solid frigate]

min Def in EVs

[spiral pawn]

In mind: ‘私がしたことは狂気の沙汰だった、みんな怒っていた’

[molten oasis]

Okay

[autumn vault]

Calyrex-Ice @ Clear Amulet
Ability: As One (Glastrier)
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spe

• Protect
• Trick Room
• Glacial Lance
• High Horsepower
  Just use this set

[solid frigate]

this is literally the Bread and Butter

[spiral pawn]

Translate it

[timber falcon]

people here tend to jump on someone whenever the team isnt very good, it can be overwhelming i get u

[spiral pawn]

^

[solid frigate]

what do you expect that someone cooked a team that is worse than what i saw before

[spiral pawn]

これがまさに私の主張でした

[timber falcon]

but its condescending in a way, at least explain whats wrong or something

[chrome knot]

@spiral pawn where’d you study japanese?

[spiral pawn]

The Google translate academy

[chrome knot]

also holy fuck im about to vomit ur 14 and born in 2010 i cannot believe ur real

i figured thats why i asked lmao

[timber falcon]

why are you speaking japanese though

[autumn vault]

Yeah, why?

[spiral pawn]

🤷

[timber falcon]

anyways, tr calyrex-ice with clear amulet to stop intimidate from the commonly used mon incineroar is the best set for calyrex-ice rn

so i advise you start off with that

[solid frigate]

yeah expecting from MHA fanbase-

[autumn vault]

How bad is the MHA fanbase?

[solid frigate]

that guy is the example of the beginner level

[steady cove]

Someone send me a pokepaste of their competitive team for 6v6 singles.
I wanna show you something cool that I'm doing.

[spiral pawn]

いや、それは実際、今のような状況で主人公が自分自身について考えるアニメのシーンのせいだ

[timber falcon]

bro

[solid frigate]

sorry,most of us are doubles Player,but i wanna see what you cook

[timber falcon]

just speak english im begging you

[chrome knot]

also whats funnt is that

[solid frigate]

honestly,just forget he existed

[autumn vault]

You guys are sure attacking Frostie

[chrome knot]

somebody who actually spoke jpn would have to decipher word bomb bc its not formatted the same as google translate

[timber falcon]

attacking?

[autumn vault]

Not attacking

[spiral pawn]

What, it’s supposed to say ‘anime scene’ but anyway I’ll speak English now

[autumn vault]

More like dogpiling on them

[timber falcon]

im tryna help him with clear explantion

[autumn vault]

There are exceptions OTOT

But yes can i join in the dogpiling?

[solid frigate]

can i burn him with my Miraidon Team

[timber falcon]

guys we here to help

not dogpile

[bold geode]

Wtf did I come back to

[spiral pawn]

😂🫵 gl

[steady cove]

Please post the Miraidon team for me. Lol

[solid frigate]

but its seems its futile

[cedar crow]

I won't be offended in the slightest since I know very little about compet but how viable is my causal team:
Tinkaton
Miraidon
Ogerpon
Ceruledge
Primarina
and: Garchomp

[timber falcon]

ofc thats if help is even wanted atp

[timber falcon]

format?

[solid frigate]

honestly for Casual Team this looks not bad

[cedar crow]

don't know what this means

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/2ccb37382b2629e9

Here ya go

[timber falcon]

like singles or doubles

[steady cove]

Can you make a pokepaste of this and send it to me? I wanna see the items, nature, abilities, etc that you came up with.

[autumn vault]

A hot mess

[spiral pawn]

Idea 💡: let’s fight (in Pokemon)

[timber falcon]

i give up

[cedar crow]

ohhh that'll take a while but I won't dm it

[steady cove]

Awesome. Thank you. I'll get back to you within 2 hours.

[gentle crag]

redzardy has given 1 Gen Rep to morrispxg456

[bold geode]

Well you're here so I was thinking a bit more than that

[timber falcon]

ima just watch now

[cedar crow]

I can do it in like 10 minutes if you give me some time

[steady cove]

You cand DM it or post it here. Up to you. I do prefer DM tho.

[cedar crow]

post it here

it'll be conceise im a good writer

[solid frigate]

it got a consistent rate of 66%,and do i need to tell you how to pilot Iron Crown

[steady cove]

You do not. But if you want to, go ahead. The more info the better :)

[steady cove]

sick

[spiral pawn]

Okay no jokes, how is this team: https://pokepast.es/95653461fdaa38c8

[solid frigate]

So Iron Crown's Main Goal is a good Mon who can deal with Amoonguss and Flutter Mane and Tera Blast is Tera Ground who is good in Dealing with Incin and Bolt

[timber falcon]

looks good

[steady cove]

Anything with Calyrex is broken. LOL

[steady cove]

Ah.

[timber falcon]

but i think clef somewhere would be nice

[steady cove]

I see.

[solid frigate]

oh yeah Helping Hand Psychic Noise make Koraidon Cry lmao

[chrome knot]

ahah casual

[steady cove]

Oh, a doubles team...

[spiral pawn]

‘ついに彼らは私に同意したので、私にとっては勝つのがさらに簡単になった’

[cedar crow]

Garchomp: Adamant Nature: Item: Covet Cloak: IVs: Not done need to get on that: EVs: Maxed.
Ceruledge: Adamant: Lucky egg [leveling it]: IVs: I've done none of them yet, I really need to spend some money: EVs: Maxed.
Primarina: Modest: Covet Cloak: EVs: Working on it.
Miriadon: Modest: Clear amulet: EVs: Maxed
Ogerpon: Jolly: I swap the Masks out: EVs: Maxed
Tinkaton: Careful: Leftovers: EVs: Maxed

[steady cove]

How would the team look in singles?

Oh, nvm

You said most people here play vgc I think

[solid frigate]

i would say not great in Singles cuz its designed for Doubles

[autumn vault]

Your team is still not very good

[steady cove]

casual-competitive ;)

[chrome knot]

definitely casual

[cedar crow]

this is for causal

[solid frigate]

I think some needs to change but since its Casual,just go for it

[steady cove]

thanks

[gentle crag]

You gave Gen Rep too recently. You can give Gen Rep again <t:1720560012:R>.

[cedar crow]

I'm not really planning to go compet

[steady cove]

No moves yet tho

[cedar crow]

IVs need done and leftovers

[solid frigate]

i mean for Casual,the Pokemon Selection is not bad

[autumn vault]

Too much defense for a incineroar
Pretty slow for a rilla
Ogerpon is only running cudgel as the offensive move, horn leech or wood hammer is better than encore
Bolt looks a bit weird on the physical side, i would distribute the evs to better suit sp def

Urshifu too slow

[cedar crow]

you wanted moves?

[steady cove]

Yeah. Full sets.

[bold geode]

Since you're not Scarf Urshifu, honestly this team would like some speed control and honestly Calyrex might want like D Kiss or some way to hit Dark types
Fairy Tera D Kiss is always nice
Also CM Bolt is kinda eh, AV or even just Booster Bolt would probably be better

[cedar crow]

I can get that done pretty fast. Tinkaton needs some work but the rest are prolly ok, keep in mind it's causal

[bold geode]

How is it too much defense for Incin? And how is it slow?

[autumn vault]

Looks a bit weird

[steady cove]

If you're wondering, this is what I have for me and my friend so far.
https://pokepast.es/cb4371ad09cf2908

[autumn vault]

And putting it on Sp Def would better take advantage of intimidate

Also it's a careful icnin

[molten oasis]

what's happening

[steady cove]

The first 6 are my pokemon. Not fully competitive sets. Just testing it out.

[autumn vault]

Multiple things

[solid frigate]

oh its draft....

some sets are weird tho

[bold geode]

So it's a common nature?

[molten oasis]

im lost

[solid frigate]

don't worry i'm lost as well

[steady cove]

Basically, what I'm doing is giving all pokemon a stat total of 1,409 so battles are as even as possible.

[autumn vault]

Not a + def nature

[bold geode]

Lyco do you genuinely know what you're saying half the time cuz I don't think you do

[autumn vault]

Which is why i think it's a bit weird

[molten oasis]

impish and jolly natures are the most common

[solid frigate]

ah ok,i think the moveset can do a change

[autumn vault]

Yes, i do actually

[molten oasis]

i am very unsure where you get your information lyco

[autumn vault]

Just think its a little odd

[bold geode]

Careful is up there too?

[autumn vault]

But it can work

[molten oasis]

oh

careful is the top, then impish

[solid frigate]

i mean i used Careful Incin before so yeah

[bold geode]

Or it should be

[steady cove]

Yeah, totally. But, again, I don't mind if I lose. I just quickly threw it together.
I buffed Charizard's base attack stat from 84-94. I wanted to use it as a mixed attacker to celebrate. Lol

[solid frigate]

Impish and Careful moemnt

[timber falcon]

are you tired dawg?

[solid frigate]

why not lemme try to change the sets?

[steady cove]

My friend also quickly threw their team together.

[molten oasis]

however

[autumn vault]

Nope

[molten oasis]

just because careful is the most common doesn't mean it needs to be careful nature

[timber falcon]

cause careful nature been pretty popular since reg g

[autumn vault]

Not saying it must be careful

[timber falcon]

dont see how its odd

[spiral pawn]

ため息 あの男がいつも私のことを密告してくるので、他の人に私のメッセージを伝える方法はありません。もしこれを見かけたら、Lyco、二度とそんなことはしないでください。

[solid frigate]

Ahem Calyrex Shadow

[molten oasis]

what even is the spread

[autumn vault]

And i use fast jolly incin myself

[molten oasis]

whats with the japanese

[molten oasis]

and team

[solid frigate]

don't worry just ignore him

[steady cove]

Because I want everyone to put their own creativity into their teams.
We can always adjust them after if we aren't satisfied.

But please feel free to suggest what changes you would make to my pokepaste.

[cedar crow]

Garchomp: Adamant Nature: Item: Covet Cloak: IVs: Not done need to get on that: EVs: Maxed.
Moves: Dragon Rush, Stone Edge, Earthquake, and Liquidation. It has a Water terra type because I caught the weird one. [I'm working on changing that tho]
Ceruledge: Adamant: Lucky egg [leveling it]: IVs: I've done none of them yet, I really need to spend some money: EVs: Maxed.
Bitter Blade, Close Combat, Flame Charge [which I may or may not remove] and Shadow Claw
Primarina: Modest: Covet Cloak: EVs: Working on it.
Sparkling Aria, Moonblast, Hydro Pump, and Ice beam
Miriadon: Modest: Clear amulet: EVs: Maxed
Electro Drift, Parabolic charge, dragon pulse and hyper beam
Ogerpon: Jolly: I swap the Masks out: EVs: Maxed
Ivy cudgel, uh the horn grass move that restores HP when hit I forgot the name, Brick Break, and U-Turn
Tinkaton: Careful: Leftovers: EVs: Maxed
Gigaton Hammer, Play Rough, Skitter Smack, and Foul Play

[spiral pawn]

Lyco better not again

[solid frigate]

I'll put it in Dms

[molten oasis]

answer the question

[autumn vault]

We don't know why, they are just being weird

[steady cove]

It would be much easier if you did this on pokemon showdown, but it's fine. Thanks.

[gentle crag]

redzardy has given 1 Gen Rep to jamesd9999

[timber falcon]

literally 0 reason

[steady cove]

Ok, cool.

[molten oasis]

okay then

[cedar crow]

this is for Violet

[bold geode]

Translate for me mfer

[steady cove]

I know. But you can import this data to pokemon showdown gen 9 ubers.

[molten oasis]

i dont know japanese that well

[steady cove]

That' what I did.

[spiral pawn]

🫡

[timber falcon]

seems to be aimed at lyco

[spiral pawn]

…

[molten oasis]

what is going on

[spiral pawn]

This is getting intense

[molten oasis]

Lyco did you do something?

[timber falcon]

oh wait

its when people show what hes translated

[cedar crow]

fair, I simply wanted to have a good compet player give my causal team a once over, thanks for doing that

[gentle crag]

jamesd9999 has given 1 Gen Rep to redzardy

[bold geode]

Can we just stip lmao

[molten oasis]

liek whats the fucking context behind this

[autumn vault]

I will

[nocturne holly]

Dawg what the fuck is happening

[timber falcon]

theres no context lol

[bold geode]

[cedar crow]

yeah I have no clue it's time to leave this channel

[molten oasis]

alright everyone, reset

[autumn vault]

Just translating what the japanese means

[bold geode]

Can we all just stfu for a min

[steady cove]

Yup.

With that out of the way, thank you guys for your teams. I'm gonna brb now and work on these teams for my format.

Tag me or DM me if you need me.

[gentle crag]

You gave Gen Rep too recently. You can give Gen Rep again <t:1720560743:R>.

[nocturne holly]

no can we all rate my teams for a sec

also what do calc for with amoonguss

[molten oasis]

depends

[nocturne holly]

Lance

[molten oasis]

uh

[nocturne holly]

barrage what else

[timber falcon]

die?

[molten oasis]

is that possible?

[autumn vault]

I don't want to make this any more stressful, but i blocked Frostie

[spiral pawn]

ため息 止まらないでしょうね？あなたならそう思っていたはずです

[bold geode]

Should be possible

[spiral pawn]

Okay?

[timber falcon]

252+ Atk Calyrex-Ice Glacial Lance vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Amoonguss: 180-212 (81.4 - 95.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[molten oasis]

252+ Atk Calyrex-Ice Rider Glacial Lance vs. 252 HP / 220+ Def Amoonguss: 186-222 (84.1 - 100.4%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

[timber falcon]

dont think thats worth it

is it?

[spiral pawn]

It’s an act btw you can translate the last one then I’ll stop lol

[molten oasis]

ok so do you want to live physical hits or special hits

[autumn vault]

Sigh, it never stops does it? I know you would have thought so

[molten oasis]

amoonguss has to choose one and i tend to just live icicle crash from jolly pao

[nocturne holly]

252+ Atk Calyrex-Ice Glacial Lance vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Amoonguss: 180-212 (81.4 - 95.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[modern harbor]

だが、そもそもなぜ日本語で話してるの？

[nocturne holly]

it’s a lot of investment

[spiral pawn]

私はあきらめます！this is the end

[autumn vault]

Chat using me as a Japanese translator

[molten oasis]

oh

[nocturne holly]

but I can maybe do it for less

[molten oasis]

stop with the japanese

[autumn vault]

I won't even do it this time

[modern harbor]

(it says i give up)

[spiral pawn]

^

[timber falcon]

whats the point of blocking someone to view their messages though

[molten oasis]

OKAY

[nocturne holly]

252+ Atk Calyrex-Ice Glacial Lance vs. 244 HP / 228+ Def Amoonguss: 186-218 (84.5 - 99%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[bold geode]

You blocked them mfer, quit replying

[autumn vault]

Also, i dont get the info anywhere that has a slight skill issue

[nocturne holly]

Yeah that’s the least it looks like

[molten oasis]

@nocturne holly do you want to live physical hits or special hits

you have to pick one

[bold geode]

Damn I swear some of you guys have two braincells that are fighting for 3rd place

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/choose-red-pill-blue-pill-gif-17327379

[spiral pawn]

Also, just for you cattcameo 誰が知るかは難しい選択だ

[molten oasis]

lol real

[nocturne holly]

Probably special I have intim

[molten oasis]

im gonna break something

[nocturne holly]

why is it Japanese in here 😭😭😭

[bold geode]

I believe Amoongus can live a AB

[molten oasis]

yea pretty easily

[nocturne holly]

I can definitely live astral

[timber falcon]

ignore the japanese atp

[modern harbor]

w

[spiral pawn]

w

[molten oasis]

but its like, you live the special or physical hts

[bold geode]

With Tera Dark I believe you can do a 4HKO from either neutral or +2 I forget

[solid frigate]

just back

[molten oasis]

then put the remaining evs into the other stat

[modern harbor]

grass

[spiral pawn]

We will meet again @modern harbor !

[molten oasis]

like, if i go 148 defense with relaxed nature and 244 hp i'd then put the rest into spD

[modern harbor]

o7

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/c9fa61e653648376

back to sqare 2

[spiral pawn]

😬

[bold geode]

Specs Caly is a myth

[timber falcon]

im really thinking abt tinkaton cause flutter has been such a pain is the arse

[solid frigate]

kek

[bold geode]

Wrong ping shit

[molten oasis]

aaaand you're replying to me why? lol

[bold geode]

Missed the ping

[nocturne holly]

252+ SpA Calyrex-Shadow Astral Barrage vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Amoonguss: 120-142 (54.2 - 64.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[solid frigate]

Tinkaton is good if you want Incineroar Lite

[molten oasis]

figured

[nocturne holly]

Yea I can probably live +1 with just max hp

[timber falcon]

uh#

[nocturne holly]

+1 252+ SpA Calyrex-Shadow Astral Barrage vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Amoonguss: 180-213 (81.4 - 96.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[spiral pawn]

私のチームよりひどいチームは見たことがない : I just have to one last time

[timber falcon]

idk what that means

[nocturne holly]

I might try for +2

[molten oasis]

i've got a question

[nocturne holly]

?

[bold geode]

Anyways Specs Caly is a myth
It's Amoongus you can prolly go for a hit from +2

[solid frigate]

basically Worse Incin but like i tried Tinkaton before and i think with the core you have,its decent

[spiral pawn]

sigh: 私のチームよりひどいチームは見たことがない

[timber falcon]

oh ok

[molten oasis]

what could i build a team around within this list

no zac, already done that obviously

[nocturne holly]

Zacian 😈

Ray 😈

[solid frigate]

the reason i tried Tinkaton cuz Draft match people chose Incin so i have to use Gyarados and Tinkaton

[molten oasis]

i'd rather die

[timber falcon]

groudon

[molten oasis]

y'all really went straight after the mid restricteds

[nocturne holly]

Hisuian zoroark

[solid frigate]

thats even worse lmao

[spiral pawn]

It’s worse than mine

[autumn vault]

Didn't know that you like Groudon and Ray tbh

[nocturne holly]

you have no good restricteds on the list 😭

[timber falcon]

yeah zac and groudon not the best

[molten oasis]

right

[nocturne holly]

Dengo bolt shifu

[bold geode]

Rayquaza

[molten oasis]

i dont want to bash my head on the ground over that

[timber falcon]

naganadel

[molten oasis]

YOU SEE NAGANADEL IN THE GAME BRO

[bold geode]

I wanna see you bash your head

[nocturne holly]

Don’t fw Zac it’s nasty

[molten oasis]

you already have

[nocturne holly]

LMAOO

[bold geode]

Wtf is Naganadel?

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-alola-pokemon-alola-pokemon-sun-and-moon-pokemon-sun-gif-27321911

[timber falcon]

mb bro

[bold geode]

Bro put a fucking Digimon on his list

[solid frigate]

he did wanna build it,and i made a joke of me and Drago about to redo the Groudon vs Kyogre in Gen 3 Games

[timber falcon]

centiscorch

[molten oasis]

uhm

[bold geode]

Oh that ugly fucker

[molten oasis]

centiscorch sucks lol

cmon guys look at the viable stuff

[timber falcon]

but he looks cool

[molten oasis]

i feel like i put enough viable stuff on the list

[solid frigate]

i saw somebody used it in Gen 8 VGC 2022 lmao

Can't touch my Unkillable Zygarde lol

[bold geode]

Also do you have brain damage yet though?

[molten oasis]

i recovered from it after NAIC

[timber falcon]

no restricteds?

[bold geode]

Well run it back

[molten oasis]

you think i want to use groudon or ray

[timber falcon]

its those 2 or k white to build around lol

[molten oasis]

mm

[timber falcon]

we cant choose the mid ones so no zac

[solid frigate]

Miraidon is the other option

[timber falcon]

oh yeah miraidon

[molten oasis]

y'all did miss miraidon lmfao

[solid frigate]

PFFT

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/663757541343363073/1259334098086789170/Paradox_Pokemon_Battle_Royale__Collab_with_Gnoggin.gif

[timber falcon]

i saw it and it went right over my head lol

[molten oasis]

sure

[solid frigate]

i wanna see your Cooking lmao

[molten oasis]

k white, then a9 can also get used

[bold geode]

Drago you ain't try my Zac team yet just saying

[molten oasis]

you think im gonna get creative with miraidon

when miraidon just, ah there he is

[stark kindle]

Were behaving chat correct? No one's making jokes/references to certain things that would otherwise be going against the rules ye?

[solid frigate]

i mean i did with Iron Crown

soooo

[molten oasis]

it was my bad i caught it after i said it

everyone else is good

[spiral pawn]

Btw what’s your best poke paste team

[molten oasis]

[bold geode]

No
I'm committing various war crimes against France
I'm putting ketchup on spaghetti too

[solid frigate]

No Legends ZA for you :>

[molten oasis]

i mean the miraidon stuff is fairly established

[timber falcon]

ketchup with spaghetti isnt that bad tbh

[spiral pawn]

私の失望は計り知れず、私の一日は台無しになりました

[solid frigate]

OTOT,What the fu

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/yoshi-slap-gif-18215727

[molten oasis]

lmao

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/knuckles-knuckles-the-echidna-knuckles-the-echidna-side-eye-side-eye-knuckles-side-eye-gif-17887856667993387069

[molten oasis]

just like, btw

[solid frigate]

send OTOT into the Shadow Realm

[bold geode]

I ain't reading dat

[timber falcon]

you guys never had it?

[molten oasis]

miraidon has very established cores i have no idea how you get creative with that

[solid frigate]

just pls no

[stark kindle]

They just disappointed in you

[timber falcon]

choice band

[molten oasis]

bro

[spiral pawn]

It translates to: My disappointment is immense and my day has been ruined.

[nocturne holly]

Amoonguss @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Regenerator
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 116 Def / 140 SpD
Calm Nature

• Spore
• Rage Powder
• Pollen Puff
• Protect

Lives +2 252+ astral barrage and then def dump

[timber falcon]

you can get creative if ur good enough to make it work ig

[molten oasis]

okay

[bold geode]

Eh what's new

[solid frigate]

Kid Named Nova:
Me with Iron Crown for no fucking Reason:

[molten oasis]

waht does it even need

miraidon is fairly self sufficient

[bold geode]

Tofu is doing Mirai Rilla

[timber falcon]

redirection is nice tbh

[bold geode]

Boom

[molten oasis]

okay but tofu know's how to cook weird stuff

[solid frigate]

i mean who can stop you tho

[molten oasis]

uhm

[solid frigate]

you are just as capable on doing it

[molten oasis]

[bold geode]

And you know how to hate yourself, now we're getting somewhere
Let's get to cookin

[timber falcon]

wha?

[solid frigate]

dude the supporting Roast is hilarious

[solid frigate]

Control two Terrains at once

[molten oasis]

yea

[timber falcon]

but why

why is 2 needed

[solid frigate]

modes

[timber falcon]

oh yeah that makes sense

[molten oasis]

k

miraidon just pivots in and out

[solid frigate]

like you would not send Both Mirai and Rilla at once

[molten oasis]

like i'd think about calm mind if tapu koko was legal

or in the game cough

[solid frigate]

both have Pivot Moves so it works

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/075ccda4fff9f3f2 aight ideas for last 2?

[solid frigate]

its just i ain't touching that

[molten oasis]

[spiral pawn]

私の失望は計り知れず、私の一日は台無しになりました, again

[solid frigate]

And maybe, Just Maybe,

Entei?

[molten oasis]

okay you're cooking kyurem white with me then

[timber falcon]

hm

[solid frigate]

i'm just jere saying shit

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/suit-slideshow-man-in-suit-sitting-man-wearing-suit-sitting-slideshow-man-wearing-suit-meme-gif-25275395

[spiral pawn]

And I’m here just talking in 日本語

[solid frigate]

Ting Lu?

[timber falcon]

so incin will provide some more FO, csr resist and threat and intimidate mostly

[molten oasis]

what's the zama line

[solid frigate]

And maybe add Ting Lu? it can help against some bigger Threats

[nocturne holly]

Stop with the Japanese 🙏😭😭

[bold geode]

I actually love me the way I am wow