#competitive_discussion

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solid frigate
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what the fu-

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i mean,its the team that won 2022

molten oasis
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MOSTLY, zac kills dark types

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then rapid strike for incin, boom

molten oasis
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CSR won worlds and they didnt think to nerf it wtf

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freelo at its finest

solid frigate
timber falcon
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they running eq slitherwing

solid frigate
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what the nani-

molten oasis
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cough no

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gastrodon and im guessing defiant acro thundy

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well, i got 1 part right

solid frigate
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just change it to Prankster Thundurus

molten oasis
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its fly

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why dont you look at this then poliwhirlkek

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oh its snarl wisp CSR

solid frigate
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how would i say that when i did not look at the team

molten oasis
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that zac doesnt have PR

solid frigate
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which is still insane to think about

molten oasis
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throat chop incin is neat at the time

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stopping other incin from parting shot is cool

timber falcon
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welp i lost PikaLmao

solid frigate
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h o w

molten oasis
timber falcon
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found out my dragapult MU sucked

solid frigate
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Drago do the thing of Pao Pult

timber falcon
dapper crag
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Anyone wanna help me evolve my scyther 😩

solid frigate
molten oasis
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theres so much zacogre damn

solid frigate
molten oasis
solid frigate
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i dunno which Restricted Pair won 2019

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oh its Groudon and Lunala

molten oasis
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oh, im naming all my kyogres Geogre Buns from now on

solid frigate
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Bro finally named something that is not Mythology

molten oasis
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for context, i was playing the family feud game with friends and we mispelled George to geogre

solid frigate
molten oasis
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while making characters, and the character i made looked like George Benson

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so as a joke cuz i mispelled George we made it Geogre Buns (which would have been Geogre Bunson but the name was too short)

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hmm, what kind of kyogre is best

solid frigate
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ah ok,maybe AV for Miraidon MU and other nasty stuff

molten oasis
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past kyogre's seemed to like AV with zac

solid frigate
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yeah i think it would be good

molten oasis
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to the calculator

bold geode
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Y'know fast paced......

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Zama/CSR/AV Incin/Whims/Wake

molten oasis
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252+ SpA Protosynthesis Raging Bolt Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Kyogre: 170-204 (97.1 - 116.5%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO bro i didnt add any bulk and it already has a chance to live that

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be it slim

molten oasis
solid frigate
molten oasis
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252+ SpA Protosynthesis Tera-Electric Raging Bolt Thunderbolt vs. 76 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Kyogre: 156-184 (84.3 - 99.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO well that was easy

spiral ridge
molten oasis
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fair enough

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still a valuable calc

solid frigate
spiral ridge
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Just use your own ice beam first poliwhirlkek

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Fight of ice

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Monkey

bold geode
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I mean think about it
With Sunny Day, Zac Ogre is wonky
For Miraidon CIR, in a lead AV Incin can live a Volt Switch and switch out with U Turn before TR setup or Lances
Zama CSR can be slowed down via Cotton Spore or whatever and yeah

bold geode
spiral ridge
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Just saying hi

bold geode
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Hey

molten oasis
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-1 116+ Atk Rillaboom Wood Hammer vs. 148 HP / 124 Def Kyogre in Grassy Terrain: 164-194 (84.5 - 100%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

molten oasis
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rain dance

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you have whims? im gonna murder it

bold geode
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Yeah but that's a turn used to Rain Dance vs Tailwind

molten oasis
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who said i had to rain dance t1

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if the sun setter is dead kyogre can switch in

bold geode
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Who said I had to Sunny Day turn 1

spiral ridge
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I’ve been doing jug and the torn with sunny day messing my kyo up is really making me wanna run torn with rain dance aswell 😭

molten oasis
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or i can, go for bleakwind

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and miss cuz this game hates me

spiral ridge
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Yup

molten oasis
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im going to bblade the whims lol

spiral ridge
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I hurricane in rain against my whim :)

bold geode
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Would Fari be a good 6th for that hmmm

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Safety Goggles Uproar maybe

molten oasis
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we could throw these teams at eachother if you wanted to

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if you build it up

bold geode
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Lmao Drago I just did the Nuh Uh Yuh Huh shit with a stranger

molten oasis
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lmaoo

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uh, does kyogre need to outspeed anything specifically if its av?

spiral ridge
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Monkey I’m already able to tell I’ll be bored later tonight. Vgc?

spiral ridge
molten oasis
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well im av

bold geode
molten oasis
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so im running spout

bold geode
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Can Farigiraf Taunt actually lmao

molten oasis
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no

dapper crag
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Farigiraf's moveset:
Physical Moves

Assurance, Astonish, Beat Up, Body Slam, Bulldoze, Crunch, Double Hit, Double Kick, Double-Edge, Earthquake, Endeavor, Facade, Foul Play, Frustration, Giga Impact, Headbutt, High Horsepower, Iron Head, Iron Tail, Low Kick, Natural Gift, Psychic Fangs, Retaliate, Return, Rock Smash, Secret Power, Stomp, Stomping Tantrum, Strength, Sucker Punch, Tackle, Take Down, Thief, Trailblaze, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Charge Beam, Confusion, Dazzling Gleam, Dream Eater, Echoed Voice, Energy Ball, Expanding Force, Future Sight, Grass Knot, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Mirror Coat, Mud-Slap, Night Shade, Psybeam, Psychic, Psychic Noise, Psyshock, Razor Wind, Round, Shadow Ball, Shock Wave, Signal Beam, Snore, Stored Power, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Twin Beam, Uproar, Zap Cannon

Status Moves

Agility, Ally Switch, Amnesia, Attract, Baton Pass, Calm Mind, Captivate, Confide, Confuse Ray, Curse, Double Team, Endure, Flash, Foresight, Gravity, Growl, Guard Swap, Helping Hand, Imprison, Light Screen, Magic Coat, Mean Look, Mimic, Nasty Plot, Nightmare, Odor Sleuth, Power Swap, Protect, Psych Up, Psychic Terrain, Rain Dance, Recycle, Reflect, Rest, Roar, Skill Swap, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Telekinesis, Thunder Wave, Toxic, Trick, Trick Room, Wish, Work Up

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Farigiraf.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0
spiral ridge
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Mm
Honestly more I think about it lots who do mess up are those with prio moves like thunder clap or whatever so not sure

molten oasis
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yea, no

chrome knot
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what

solid frigate
molten oasis
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ig that didnt make, a lot of sense, oops

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Cough anyway

chrome knot
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thats not a move

molten oasis
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wh- taunts a move

bold geode
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Oh I was just thinking
Why did I think of Taunt for dubs restrict

chrome knot
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farig dont learn it

molten oasis
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yea i was just making sure

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i didn't think it did but yk hisui zoro gets focus punch

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things learn weird moves

molten oasis
solid frigate
molten oasis
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anyway is 60 modest to little spA for an av kyogre?

solid frigate
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kek

spiral ridge
solid frigate
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156 is probably the more better if you want it to still do damage

molten oasis
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that doesn't answer my question

solid frigate
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but if you wanna ran more bulk idk

molten oasis
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Kyogre @ Assault Vest
Ability: Drizzle
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 196 HP / 100 Def / 132 SpA / 44 SpD / 36 Spe
Modest Nature
i have this for evs

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i sent some calcs but it takes wood hammer at -1 and volt switch from mirai, and tera electeic proto boosted thunderbolt from bolt

solid frigate
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132 is decent enough

molten oasis
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also a 3hko from shifu clicking SS, assuming it clicks that and not cc

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i had it hitting 124 but my shifu already does that to handle fast incin so i figured it didnt matter as much

solid frigate
molten oasis
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oh if i go av, and shifu has goggles, the incin has, not a great item shit

spiral ridge
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Berry?

molten oasis
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ig

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or rocky helm

solid frigate
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i think its gonna be funny against Urshifu lmao

spiral ridge
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Yeah rocky could be good as a fuck you on any SS from urshi arkeknine

solid frigate
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thats why my amogus has Rocky helm

spiral ridge
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Amogus can actually tank it pretty well though can’t it

molten oasis
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yea

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im going sitrus cuz i think i want amoonguss

spiral ridge
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Fair

chrome knot
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choice specs

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covert cloak amoonguss

solid frigate
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cloak Amooguss is kinda noice

molten oasis
chrome knot
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uh no

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choice specs incineroar

molten oasis
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oh lol

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gotta get big damage snarls

chrome knot
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u turn and not parting shot ig

bold geode
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Y'know with AV Incin
For some reason, Temper Flare is speaking lol

molten oasis
solid frigate
molten oasis
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yea, i uh, i just took a av set off another paste

chrome knot
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flare blitz on a rain team instead of taunt removing the need for goggles shifu making incin a relevant goggles user

molten oasis
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yea ik ik lemme fix that

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wouldn't i want jolly incin then or its it mostly for amoonguss?

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taunt incins

chrome knot
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its mostly for fungus and opposing incin lmao

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so they cant parting shot u

molten oasis
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i'll go jolly then

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my CIR line is clear with this imo

bold geode
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Like going Tera Grass AV and there's Sun
Temper Flare lmao

molten oasis
bold geode
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Lol

molten oasis
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assuming they also have incin

chrome knot
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youd get cooked by cir miraidon

molten oasis
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fuck you're right

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uhhhhh

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zac gotta clutch up ig, hmm

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at least zac threatens both of them and can force a tera but it still is a rough mu

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be it them getting a tr off is kinda game losing

solid frigate
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Kyogre,Miraidon,Landorus Incarnate sounds like a good core

molten oasis
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ice and electric coverage is fucking brutal damn

solid frigate
molten oasis
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i legit cant think of anything thats good into that, next to zac

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cuz zac is alright into both of them

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the remainder of the team gets fried by ice or electric coverage

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uh, CSR Zac maybe???

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i dont have to hard stress about it but, still gonna be brutal to figure out how to handle

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might just have to go rilla tbh

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i'll think about that some other time lol

solid frigate
molten oasis
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that looks kinda clunky

solid frigate
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kinda wanna try on both ends

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but eh lemme experiment on it more

molten oasis
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do what you will

solid frigate
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the Problem is Incin or Wo-Chien

molten oasis
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im gonna go play apex

bold geode
molten oasis
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Right when I- ok

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Tera ground Tera blast CSR is so mean

bold geode
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Right now not as good but like
In doubles being able to shoot down Zac, Zama and Miraidon
Sure it becomes weak to CIR, which is why I thought about Tera Water Blast

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Other things can help with CIR and Kyogre here though so

molten oasis
bold geode
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Whstc

molten oasis
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252 SpA Tera-Ground Calyrex-Shadow Rider Tera Blast vs. 132 HP / 28 SpD Zacian-Crowned: 140-168 (76 - 91.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

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Hehe can’t shot me down right away

bold geode
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That's a chunk though

molten oasis
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True

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But I can chunk in return

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One shots aren’t everything I suppose

bold geode
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Also thinking of instead of Farigiraf maybe Screens Misty Terrain Grimmsnarl

foggy lodge
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What would happen if misty terrain boosted fairy moves lol

bold geode
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It probably does?

dapper crag
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Move: Misty Terrain

For 5 turns, the terrain becomes Misty Terrain. During the effect, the power of Dragon-type attacks used against grounded Pokemon is multiplied by 0.5 and grounded Pokemon cannot be inflicted with a non-volatile status condition nor confusion. Grounded Pokemon can become affected by Yawn but cannot fall asleep from its effect. Camouflage transforms the user into a Fairy type, Nature Power becomes Moonblast, and Secret Power has a 30% chance to lower Special Attack by 1 stage. Fails if the current terrain is Misty Terrain.

Type

Fairy

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0
bold geode
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It don't?

solid frigate
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yeah Misty Terrain is weird

autumn vault
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Its weird indeed

solid frigate
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somehow psychic Terrain is not weird but misty terrain is

autumn vault
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Yeah

junior patrol
chrome knot
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normal

autumn vault
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Normal is the most common tera for Blood Moon

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And by a landslide

junior patrol
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And what nature?

molten oasis
solid frigate
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usually Quiet or Modest

rustic mountain
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theres no real misty terrain setters legal unless u count fucking g weezing

chrome knot
rustic mountain
solid frigate
bold geode
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Hello Mr Tree

rustic mountain
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thats taking a turn tho

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grimmsnarl using misty terrain

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sup monke

bold geode
rustic mountain
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nah its cool lmao jus messin around

bold geode
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You been playing anything recently aside from CIR?

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I was just fucking around putting together a dub restricted team cuz bored lol

molten oasis
finite vine
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Does protect also protect you from moves that increase stats from foes?

next stump
rustic mountain
bold geode
rustic mountain
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wbu

bold geode
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Been trying Zacian a bit, haven't had bad luck so

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Also dual weather Torn for Chi and Ursh

rustic mountain
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what zacian variant

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or r u saying torn dual weather w/ zacian too

chrome knot
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@next stump

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2 cups in michigan this weekend

molten oasis
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i got bolt with flamethrower in pokerogue, imagine if it actually got flamethrower, not that it needs it

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decent coverage option, especially for grass types and in sun its kinda stab

bold geode
rustic mountain
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ur obsessed w/ hitmontop haha

bold geode
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Put some respect on the Top

rustic mountain
rustic mountain
bold geode
bold geode
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I honestly think rn in terms of role compression it just fits in nice

dapper crag
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That’s what it looks like to me

bold geode
molten oasis
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Glad you found that pick

bold geode
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I've had em tbh
Hitmontop, Kingambit, Kantonian Arcanine

dapper crag
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Primarina's moveset:
Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Aqua Jet, Aqua Tail, Body Slam, Covet, Dive, Double Slap, Facade, Flip Turn, Frustration, Giga Impact, Ice Spinner, Iron Tail, Liquidation, Play Rough, Pound, Return, Triple Axel, Waterfall

Special Moves

Alluring Voice, Blizzard, Brine, Bubble Beam, Chilling Water, Dazzling Gleam, Disarming Voice, Draining Kiss, Echoed Voice, Energy Ball, Hidden Power, Hydro Cannon, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Misty Explosion, Moonblast, Psychic, Psychic Noise, Round, Scald, Shadow Ball, Snore, Sparkling Aria, Stored Power, Surf, Swift, Tera Blast, Uproar, Water Gun, Water Pledge, Water Pulse, Weather Ball, Whirlpool

Status Moves

Amnesia, Aqua Ring, Aromatic Mist, Attract, Baby-Doll Eyes, Calm Mind, Captivate, Charm, Confide, Double Team, Encore, Endure, Growl, Hail, Haze, Helping Hand, Life Dew, Light Screen, Magic Coat, Misty Terrain, Perish Song, Protect, Psych Up, Rain Dance, Reflect, Rest, Sing, Sleep Talk, Snowscape, Substitute, Swagger, Toxic, Wonder Room, Work Up

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Primarina.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0
bold geode
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Urshifu kinda

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Incineroar

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Iron Hands
Praise Big Tubby

molten oasis
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Helping hand-hmm

bold geode
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Zamazenta

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Kinda like Rayquaza more now

molten oasis
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That’s cool

bold geode
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Hitmontop is just one of the more off meta ones I like

molten oasis
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That was more what I was referring to

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 730: Primarina
Types

Water/Fairy

Abilities

Torrent, Liquid Voice (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/74/74/126/116/60

Total

530

SableyeBot version 4.28.0
molten oasis
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I have an idea

gilded delta
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is there a "looking for a battle" channel in this server?

molten oasis
gilded delta
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didn't even see it, thank you

molten oasis
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Oh that’s- oops

bold geode
molten oasis
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Ik

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It’s a water type, kinda funky

bold geode
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The Zacian is horse shaped

molten oasis
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Ah that one, yea

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It’s a horse shape indeed

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Zacian Horse Form

bold geode
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Bro identified as a honse

molten oasis
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(It’s purely an idea for Prima)

bold geode
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I saw this one video that said "I'm vegan" before slapping a steak in a pan and saying "This cow identified as a tomato"

molten oasis
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Idt I’ll do anything with it’s just a concept

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lol

bold geode
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Honestly just me AF

molten oasis
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It be cool to do something with Prima but I think it’s just outclassed

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Kyogre does spread water, urshifu is just literally the superior water type

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Peli as well

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 376: Metagross
Types

Steel/Psychic

Abilities

Clear Body, Light Metal (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/135/130/95/90/70

Total

600

Other Formes

Metagross-Mega

SableyeBot version 4.28.0
foggy lodge
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Huh

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How did this pokemon fell off so hard

molten oasis
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Uh, someone made a video on its competitive history

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Tr CSR and Tera rock rock slide belly drum iron hands

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That’s something alright

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@foggy lodge Ray Rizzo made a video on it I’d suggest watching that

foggy lodge
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I just found it

finite vine
next stump
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Decorate and Coaching will go through protect

next stump
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VR tourney results

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balmy glen
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all i learned from looking at this is that I need to make my name Alberto

lusty gull
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Can I get a hand with a tank Latias? Trying Bold, max def investment, tera steel, recover/calm mind/draco/psyshock. Unsure of item and other EV's

next stump
lusty gull
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Singles

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I main singles rather than doubles so if I ever ask, it's safe to assume 🙂

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Always been bad at building teams/mons

mighty stump
lusty gull
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Can I post a Pokepaste of what I have for Lati so far?

mighty stump
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Uh with regards to singles, I have 0 opinion since I only do VGC

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So I wouldn’t be much help

lusty gull
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Oof, I suck at building, I'm only decent (ish) at using them

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I think I've only ever built one good team and that was a monotype steel

chrome knot
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@craggy dagger ALOLAN BEAN OUTBREAKS

craggy dagger
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wait what

solid frigate
chrome knot
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in bb academy is alolan bean outbreaks

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i can finally get a shiny one🥺

craggy dagger
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RobinLurk

time to save and then get a bunch of chocochus

craggy dagger
chrome knot
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NO

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ITS A NEW WEEK.

craggy dagger
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it’s sunday-
not monday???

chrome knot
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sunday night!!

solid frigate
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Wha-

chrome knot
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so may aswell be monday

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therefore this weekend

solid frigate
chrome knot
solid frigate
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RIP Iron Hands

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bro got rammed by Gouging Fire

molten oasis
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waht ball would you put a shiny amoonguss in

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if you didnt have a master ball

molten oasis
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its so good

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also alolan bean?

craggy dagger
craggy dagger
molten oasis
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raichu?

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im so lost lol

craggy dagger
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yes

chrome knot
molten oasis
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ah

dapper crag
molten oasis
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interesting

molten oasis
nocturne holly
bold geode
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Hai Nova

molten oasis
nocturne holly
molten oasis
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heavy ball it is

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2 marked foongus, both uncommon

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laaame

polar canyon
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It was only the other day that I found out you can see if they're marked before catching

chrome knot
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really…?

finite vine
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Also do you need online for rental codes?

solid frigate
mighty stump
chrome knot
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i need so many gifs from it

rustic mountain
rustic mountain
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not the exact same purple but close enough plus amoongus puts things to sleep a lot so dream fits thematically and has a great ball animation

foggy lodge
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my pokemon are all in ugly balls

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my goltres is in dream ball xd

rustic mountain
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i mean its all preference anyway at the end of the day, a lot of ppl dont care

foggy lodge
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Yeah

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Anyways Galarian Articuno was good in sw/sh?

rustic mountain
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not really

solid frigate
next stump
solid frigate
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Zacian Gapdos?

chrome knot
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@next stump did u see abt lansing & troy double headers

bold geode
near crag
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I've been trying to build a dnite team, but I don't know what could fit well as a last mon, since pokemon like incineroar, rillaboom, urshifu, or most other main mons would just ruin the type matchups. What should I add?https://pokepast.es/40eb1db3783ae362 (Ogerpon isn't calced yet)

solid frigate
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this ogerpon can just run Max max min

foggy lodge
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I think Choice Band Dragonite would be better

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Try the HO teams

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I think in Santiago there was a Paonite team that had a high placement

solid frigate
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also no Pelipper feels so wrong

near crag
solid frigate
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i don't like AV Dragonite that much

near crag
foggy lodge
solid frigate
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and not to mention Incineroar

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and Koraidon MU looks Scary

near crag
solid frigate
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final gambit ape?

near crag
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Maybe, or just a lorb set

foggy lodge
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Urshifu rapid strikes could be good

near crag
solid frigate
foggy lodge
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I don't think that matters

solid frigate
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the only Fairies is here are Zacian,Scream Tail and Flutter

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thats pretty much it

foggy lodge
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I say this a lot but rn there are only three fairy types and all of them are supports

solid frigate
foggy lodge
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There is

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Flutter, Grimmsnarl, Whimsicott, Scream Tail

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And Zacian is the only attacking fairy type xd

solid frigate
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yeah

foggy lodge
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Well maybe the Choice specs Flutter that sometimes is played with Koraidon but meh

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Even those flutter tend to be focus sash

solid frigate
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thats why i run Tera Dark Amoonguss due to not much fairies

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and immune to prankster taunts

foggy lodge
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I prefer tera water

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And tera dark on Tornadus

solid frigate
foggy lodge
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Well i haven't played neither of those for a while

near crag
foggy lodge
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I play freaking Goltres tera dark

solid frigate
foggy lodge
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You already conditionate Flutter with Zacian

solid frigate
foggy lodge
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Flutter can't really do that much against Zac

solid frigate
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And Zacian Hates the living heck out of Chi yu and Incineroar rn

foggy lodge
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Yeah fire types

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Inci probably tanks an outrage xd

solid frigate
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The Incin bulk is insane lmao

near crag
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Does max+ surging strikes ohko incin rn?

foggy lodge
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well i remember that Moxie's Inci got deleted by a Choice band outrage but it had sword of ruin

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Literally almost all the multipliers

foggy lodge
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It only lives if it's sitrus

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Or if it teras xd

solid frigate
foggy lodge
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I'm not sure if Scarf Surging kos but mystic water for sure

solid frigate
solid frigate
foggy lodge
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Yeah lmao

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Today i saw someone from the local scene playing Scarf Miraidon with Glaceon xd

near crag
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And does shifu rely on tera as much as he did in earlier gens? It could be a problem with dnite as my main sweeper

solid frigate
foggy lodge
solid frigate
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WHAT THE SHIT IS THAT GUY COOKING

foggy lodge
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I don't know is triple ice type 😭😭

near crag
#

That's eleki numbers right there

foggy lodge
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Chien Pao A9 Glaceon with Scarf Miraidon

solid frigate
foggy lodge
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It was just ladder things tho but it was curious

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He plays Glaceon like

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He plays Glaceon in locals and special events and it does good

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Many tops 4 at locals

near crag
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Btw, why don't people use gzapdos that much? It's way too good not to be with at least double it's usage

foggy lodge
#

Outclassed

near crag
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Only real brave bird user rn

foggy lodge
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The main reason you would use it is because oh it's Inci's counter but at that point just use Urshifu or something like that

foggy lodge
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Wha does flying hits?

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Grass and uhh

near crag
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Grass, and fighting mainly

foggy lodge
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Ah yeah

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So yeah only those two

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Ehhh is fine i guess

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Hits Urshifu Amoonguss and Rilla

near crag
#

Oger too

foggy lodge
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Very popular mons

near crag
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It has decent coverage, too

solid frigate
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Support Talonflame still uses Brave Bird right idk

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or is is flame body

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and not gale wings

foggy lodge
#

Always gale wings i think

near crag
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I havent seen talonflame in ages

foggy lodge
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It's not that tanky to make use of the flame body unlike Volcarona or those mons

solid frigate
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i saw a few teams

near crag
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It got surprisingly high usage too, big 1,56

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I'd guess 1,5 less than that

foggy lodge
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It's mainly played with Miraidon

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I don't know why tho

solid frigate
foggy lodge
#

Makes sense

solid frigate
foggy lodge
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i want to like build a new team every month because i have nothing to do in VGC rn

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These are the ideas

Screenshot_2024-07-07-23-53-58-339_com.android.chrome.jpg
solid frigate
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currently my most successful teams

image.png
foggy lodge
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Whimsi on the three lol

near crag
#

I've been messing around with venosaur, and it's surprisingly solid

solid frigate
cyan smelt
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Why wo chien

foggy lodge
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Bring back z moves because i want the nature power normalium z thing back

solid frigate
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Whimsicott is my no.1 Tailwind Setter now

solid frigate
cyan smelt
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Wo chien too slow

solid frigate
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gonna spam spouts after Pollen Puff heals

solid frigate
dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 1001: Wo-Chien
Types

Dark/Grass

Abilities

Tablets of Ruin

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

85/85/100/95/135/70

Total

570

SableyeBot version 4.28.0
solid frigate
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Kyogre is 115 in this Team,Wo Chien is 116,Designed to be faster than Kyogre in this team

foggy lodge
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You can make like turbo Wo Chien and spam pollen puff to spam water spout

solid frigate
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and this team got me to 1400+ with 75% Consistency

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only lost 2 battles

foggy lodge
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I have to play showdown man

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I would play more but i don't have too much time and when i have and i try to play i end up playing tilted xd

solid frigate
rustic mountain
foggy lodge
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I have to work on the mental tbh

solid frigate
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just don't like quad dark too much tho

rustic mountain
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well the core of it is similar yea, u jus for some reason put whims and boulder on there lol

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lot less defensive

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quad dark is weird but it works

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they dont share too many weaknesses

solid frigate
rustic mountain
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whims is cool it jus is weird on that comp to me

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rock coverage can be good tho

solid frigate
rustic mountain
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i mean ive used it plenty, especially in swsh

solid frigate
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and it kinda does wonders when i bring it

rustic mountain
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the team is jus very mis mosh w/ if it wants screens or tw and idt the mons for the team are great enablers of either (outside like wo chien/ogre/grimm and a 4th for the war of attrition mode)

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like generally u want something like mystic water or specs ogre for tw

solid frigate
#

i mean fair point

near crag
cyan smelt
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Double grass and double dark is eh

rustic mountain
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scarf lando i also not sure on considering u have tw , idk if the trade off of outspeeding certain stuff w/o tw there outweights its value with life orb under tw

solid frigate
rustic mountain
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if it works it works, but those are my thoughts off rip. id try to see if u can go farther then 1400s w/ it

solid frigate
rustic mountain
#

1400s 70+ is good but is it 1600/1700 70% wr good, i think thats my biggest gripe

solid frigate
#

its all part of the Progress honestly

rustic mountain
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im not saying to change it necessarily, just those seem like things to consider

rustic mountain
solid frigate
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i might wanna reach 1500-1600 in 60% Consistency cuz there is no way i am reaching 70% in 1500-1600 lol

rustic mountain
#

why not?

near crag
#

The only time I rly climbed was with a really gimmicky team, that tatsugiri died inside dozo, and then I'd get flamigo in

rustic mountain
#

oh god lmao

solid frigate
rustic mountain
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wasnt that like series a

solid frigate
near crag
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I just improved it a bit

mighty stump
#

@rustic mountain did you see my new post

rustic mountain
rustic mountain
mighty stump
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yea

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a very personal one

rustic mountain
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nah i didnt ur not on hatenna anymore are u?

mighty stump
#

I am

solid frigate
#

also idk why

But Miraidon in TR is sounds so meme but it worth it when opposing Bike is in Tailwind

mighty stump
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Haha

rustic mountain
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oh ok idk y i thought u changed it again

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ill go check it out

mighty stump
solid frigate
rustic mountain
#

also the back turning of ur character w/ lax at the end? ChefKiss

charred saddle
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nice read

mighty stump
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🙏 bless

charred saddle
#

hit me up when u are registering in SG regionals, ill make time to join in yayayayayay

mighty stump
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haha ya totally

molten oasis
solid frigate
finite vine
#

Does dragon cheer go through protect if used by an ally?

minor panther
molten oasis
#

hmm, i gotta give it a new name cuz all the shiny marked foonguss were female, but does amoonguss the peckish or amoonguss the humble sound better

molten oasis
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I went for peckish because it’s speed iv was lower

autumn vault
next stump
chrome knot
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awh, ill be at the troy double header should u change ur mindGiggleHehe

charred saddle
next stump
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so sick

image0.jpg
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I need these stickers on my work laptop

autumn vault
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Those look very good

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And the dondozo one looks so goofy

chrome knot
strange fjord
charred saddle
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where fari BM tho

solid frigate
#

Where is Archaludon and Pelipper

next stump
#

looks like it's maybe 2 duos from each reg?

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eh not really cause some duos from Reg A were also good in Reg B

chrome knot
bold geode
chrome knot
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TIL: Lunala & Zacian are girls

bold geode
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Lol
Drago always says she when talking about Zac

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But yeah at the same time honestly
I didn't think Zacian was female

chrome knot
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in dex it reads that they dont know if zacian is zamazentas elderly sister or that the two pokemon are rivals

balmy glen
bold geode
#

Yeah
Also I watched that paradox TerminalMontage video and tbh I'm disappointed in myself that I didn't see the winner from a mile away

bold geode
chrome knot
balmy glen
#

a masterpiece

bold geode
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What does Teleport even do in VGC

chrome knot
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keanu what day is ur opl match

balmy glen
chrome knot
#

icic

balmy glen
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but he wants thursday

bold geode
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Who up against

balmy glen
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tbh I literally have no team rn so ill prob just like search what he likes to use 30 min before our match then play him

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cant be bothered

bold geode
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Lmao

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Pulls up with a mirror

balmy glen
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i mean im down

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only time ive lost mirrors were to people who made their team decked out for mirror making their team overall worse

chrome knot
#

@balmy glen is there a faster way to find all limitless results from someone

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unless my opponent doesnt play the game ive found 2 tournament results from him

balmy glen
craggy dagger
chrome knot
balmy glen
chrome knot
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yes

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thats how I found their limitless

balmy glen
balmy glen
solid frigate
chrome knot
balmy glen
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diffed

chrome knot
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(i still won)

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but like cmon bruh lmfao

polar canyon
chrome knot
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next turn yes

molten oasis
#

That happens too much

chrome knot
#

if cir were full para that turn id kill myself

molten oasis
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Miraidon just getting double para’s happens so much idk why

polar canyon
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Tera ground anything + discharge feels like a meme gimmick but actually works it's crazy

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Same for idbp zama

chrome knot
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farig @ ground is normal

balmy glen
#

@chrome knot are u emmachains on showdown

polar canyon
#

It's normal but imagine telling someone in 2023 that tera ground + discharge is gonna be a good strat

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And idbp is meta

chrome knot
#

nmo

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emmyan & rosie4

balmy glen
#

oh

chrome knot
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why

chrome knot
solid frigate
#

why the fuck people timer stall in low ladder-

(Yes i'm doing b03 now)

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and they are losing

next stump
#

i think if someone closes out of their showdown window or loses internet connection in bo3 it just keeps going

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and since it’s separate games the timer takes forever

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happens like one in five games on low ladder for me

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i’ve also had to do it too if i get called into something at work while playing LOL

solid frigate
autumn vault
#

I'm thinking about making Kyurem-W a bit faster

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Kyurem-White @ Choice Specs
Ability: Turboblaze
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 180 SpA / 4 SpD / 68 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Blizzard
  • Freeze-Dry
  • Earth Power
  • Fusion Flare
solid frigate
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its fine

autumn vault
#

I made it outspeed Max Speed Incin

solid frigate
#

bulky Specs Kyurem white isn't that bad for being honest

autumn vault
#

Its useful dodging those Parting Shots

autumn vault
#

Plus i'm planning to actually bring Kyurem-W to a specific tournament

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Plus Kyurem-White is a Unova Legend except it's actually good unlike the other 3

solid frigate
#

yeah

autumn vault
#

I'm going in 3 minutes to somewhere

#

If anyone has questions then i will answer them in an hour or two

bold geode
autumn vault
#

Me bad?

#

or Kyurem-W?

molten oasis
#

i dont like specs

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i think av is better especially if you're running a9

autumn vault
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I personally prefer Specs over AV last time i played Kyurem-W

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But i understand why you think that

craggy dagger
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meow-?

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specs KyuW is okay and is prolly more wanted if you’re running A9 cause you get veil up

dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 646: Kyurem-White
Types

Dragon/Ice

Abilities

Turboblaze

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

125/120/90/170/100/95

Total

700

Base Species

Kyurem

SableyeBot version 4.28.0
solid frigate
craggy dagger
solid frigate
#

Double Fake out what

polar canyon
#

Imagine if kyurem black was good

#

I wish scale shot circle spear was viable

#

But it's either dice or clear amulet and it's mandatory tera fire

#

It would only have a chance if it could hold 2 items at once

next stump
molten oasis
solid frigate
chrome knot
calm gulch
#

#BullyMonke #MonkeAsmr

craggy dagger
unique grotto
#

Hello, new to competitive but how can you tell if you have either 27 or 28 speed since their both in 'very good'

polar canyon
#

You calculate it really

#

But it's more recommended to try to get 31 always

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Especially since they made it easy in gen 9

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And especially for speed

unique grotto
#

well yeah but its for outspeeding matchups in trickroom

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without a speedtie

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lets say i wanna outspeed support incin in trickroom i cant be 31

craggy dagger
#

oh-
to figure out exactly what, you need to check the stat number with/without EVs and plug them into an IV calculator

unique grotto
next stump
unique grotto
#

😮 time to play with soms numbers! thankyou

next stump
#

have fun 😄 what team are you planning on running?

bold geode
unique grotto
gentle cragBOT
bold geode
#

Yup

solid frigate
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Kinda want to finish the Future Sword of Justice Trio cuz i done Iron Crown and Iron Boulder

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but tbh,Iron Leaves sucks

#

plus Grass Psychic suckass as a typing

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 1010: Iron Leaves
Types

Grass/Psychic

Abilities

Quark Drive

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/130/88/70/108/104

Total

590

SableyeBot version 4.28.0
#
Iron Leaves's moveset:
Physical Moves

Aerial Ace, Brick Break, Close Combat, Double-Edge, Facade, False Swipe, Giga Impact, Leaf Blade, Megahorn, Night Slash, Psyblade, Quick Attack, Retaliate, Reversal, Sacred Sword, Smart Strike, Solar Blade, Take Down, Throat Chop, Trailblaze, Wild Charge, X-Scissor

Special Moves

Air Slash, Energy Ball, Focus Blast, Giga Drain, Grass Knot, Hyper Beam, Leaf Storm, Magical Leaf, Solar Beam, Swift, Tera Blast

Status Moves

Agility, Ally Switch, Calm Mind, Coaching, Electric Terrain, Endure, Grassy Terrain, Gravity, Helping Hand, Imprison, Iron Defense, Leer, Metal Sound, Protect, Psychic Terrain, Quash, Quick Guard, Rest, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Swords Dance, Taunt, Work Up

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Iron Leaves.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0
#
Pokémon No. 197: Umbreon
Type

Dark

Abilities

Synchronize, Inner Focus (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

95/65/110/60/130/65

Total

525

SableyeBot version 4.28.0
devout mist
nocturne holly
#

fr so much utility
Dark type too so prankster immunity

#

yawn

#

Snarl
Foul play

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Taunt

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And it’s so bulky

steady cove
#

I want to do a format where the pokemon on both teams have the same base stat total.
If you wanna try it with me, tell me the 6 pokemon you want and the moves and items you want them to have.
I'll train them for you and send you the rental code.
The only pokemon not allowed are ones that cannot be bred (can't hatch from an egg).

mighty stump
steady cove
mighty stump
#

You’re definitely less likely to get a positive response here since we mainly focus on established formats here

autumn vault
autumn vault
hollow vessel
autumn vault
#

No

#

We're not discussing anything rn

#

Just me replying to some people

hollow vessel
#

Ah ok

dark juniper
#

Is there a way to check I have 0 speed Ivs on a lvl 1 torkoal

autumn vault
#

You can use the judge function

dark juniper
#

What’s that

autumn vault
#

If you beat the game and talk to nurse joy, you get an option that allows you to see what IVs your pokemon have

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Its in the boxes

dark juniper
#

I’m confused how I do that. Is that the yellow graph?

autumn vault
#

When you get to a pokemon, just press the + button

dark juniper
#

Oh nvm I see that

#

So is “no good” 0?

autumn vault
#

Yeah

molten oasis
dark juniper
#

Sweet. Thanks

molten oasis
#

Op wrong,

molten oasis
#

So the beginning of the format

#

Maaaaaybe it’s okay but I still think av is better

autumn vault
#

I still will use Specs, again, i like big numbers

#

And i have Tailwind to get the speed neccesary

#

But i understand why you would think that AV is better

craggy dagger
#

i'd prolly want watershifu over mienshao...
idk tbh

solid frigate
#

especially scarf

craggy dagger
#

no

#

never touching that-
thing-
FukingDies

dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 547: Whimsicott
Types

Grass/Fairy

Abilities

Prankster, Infiltrator, Chlorophyll (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

60/67/85/77/75/116

Total

480

SableyeBot version 4.28.0
craggy dagger
#

huh

solid frigate
#

i suddenly have an idea

next stump
solid frigate
#

whims is so damn good for god sake

molten oasis
craggy dagger
solid frigate
molten oasis
#

Just enhance damage

solid frigate
solar mirage
nocturne holly
#

They only gave away his 😭

solar mirage
#

Oh

solid frigate
#

this is so fucking hilarious

dapper crag
#
Move: Darkest Lariat

Ignores the target's stat stage changes, including evasiveness.

Type

Dark

Category

Physical

Power

85

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0
modern harbor
#

struggling against Zacian, Zamazenta, Ice Rider, sometimes Kyogre
Iron Moth
Urshifu R
Flutter Mane
Lugia
Grimmsnarl
Chien Pao

solid frigate
#

Lugia does basically no damage and needs fuck ton of Calm Minds to make it work

dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 249: Lugia
Types

Psychic/Flying

Abilities

Pressure, Multiscale (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

106/90/130/90/154/110

Total

680

SableyeBot version 4.28.0
modern harbor
#

multiscale is nice tho and with screens, parting shot, etc, it can wall Thunder Kyogre, and a lot of other pokemon

solid frigate
#

there are better restricteds out there that does better job

And i doubt this team is good against Miraidon

modern harbor
#

miraidon is usually weak to chien pao

solid frigate
#

there is no way you are strong against Miraidon Teams

#

especially mostly they will Tera Electric

#

252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift (133.3251953125 BP) vs. 252 HP / 60+ SpD Multiscale Lugia in Electric Terrain: 201-237 (94.3 - 111.2%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO

modern harbor
#

do you recommend any changes? let me see which mons i have

solid frigate
jade dust
solid frigate
#

Lugia is just a Bunker that does nothing

#

Plus i need the Pokepaste

modern harbor
solid frigate
#

that made in Showdown than uploaded for the Team

modern harbor
#

okok should i make one

#

i made my team ingame so i dont have one rn

solid frigate
#

its more like a must.

modern harbor
#

kk

solid frigate
#

and always build teams in Showdown first then test and then build it in Game

modern harbor
#

showdown team builder?

solid frigate
#

exactly

modern harbor
#

kk

silver ravine
#

How viable is paonite these days? Kinda want to use it as nite is a goofey goober and pao fits nite like a glove.

solid frigate
rustic mountain
silver ravine
solid frigate
#

Hyper Offense

rustic mountain
#

sites like victory road will post teams and pastes after the results are decided

silver ravine
#

Oh that makes more sense. Thinking you had caps lock on and forgot the -oh arkeknine

solid frigate
#

but first i wanna see what this guy made

solid frigate
#

anyways

misty helm
#

I have a good question has anyone here had a best friend who was a casual player and you had no idea how to hold back against them

solid frigate
#

but sometimes even hold back they are facing against +2 pagos

misty helm
solid frigate
misty helm
lofty tartan
#

No legendary =/= fair

misty helm
#

I have no clue how to help him

lofty tartan
#

People and their weird hatred of legendaries.

#

He doesn't want help if he's casual, man. arkeknine

#

If he wanted to be serious he'd EV'd train his stuff and not care.

solid frigate
misty helm
#

I struggle at making sure I keep my Pokémon weak enough with me ev training every Pokémon possible

solid frigate
#

let that sink in to his soul

lofty tartan
silver ravine
#

My advice is let him know some legendries aren't unique and there are multiples of them. So it's not far feteched someone else has an Entei for example

lofty tartan
#

It's basically a one-sided fight.

solid frigate
molten oasis
#

My advice would be to just use legendaries and get over the weird no legendaries thing

silver ravine
#

Also holding back isn't going to make them a better player

molten oasis
#

Cuz it’s dumb to not use them if they’re legal

solid frigate
lofty tartan
#

His friend is a casual player anyway

molten oasis
#

Ik

#

Ah, so they’re both against legendaries then?

silver ravine
misty helm
molten oasis
#

Even tho I’d argue the meta is healthier/more fun with legendaries

#

Especially with restricteds

misty helm
#

I don’t think he would be willing to

molten oasis
#

You see lots of new stuff in restricted like mienshao and pelipper who otherwise are kinda mid

nocturne holly
#

it’s funny that like some non legendaries are better than some legendaries lmao

lofty tartan
#

His friend doesn't care about the meta. Basically I don't think their friend cares to be serious about VGC if they don't want to EV train, so all of the meta stuff is really moot in consideration.

molten oasis
#

Fair enough

lofty tartan
#

Playing against them in a competitive mindset isn't doing either party any favors

nocturne holly
#

but people still say no legendaries is fair

solid frigate
modern harbor
#

this should work?

silver ravine
solid frigate
nocturne holly
#

Av flutter 😭

molten oasis
lofty tartan
molten oasis
#

Cuz torn would just manual set up

modern harbor
molten oasis
#

Oh ig hard rain was, nvm

#

I remember a lot of the time rain teams were centered around tornshifu not really peli

#

I could be remembering wrong

nocturne holly
#

They were iirc

molten oasis
solid frigate
nocturne holly
#

I think pelipper was outclassed by torn then

modern harbor
molten oasis
#

Well, yea

#

Torn had prio tailwind and bleakwind was a major buff

solid frigate
nocturne holly
#

fr why’d they buff it even more

modern harbor
#

what item should i use on flutter? specs?

molten oasis
#

Pelipper at the time was considered worse but now it’s like, you pick wide guard or prio tw

solid frigate
molten oasis
#

And Manual rain or switch in rain

solid frigate
#

Cuz Flutter is mostly Support rn

molten oasis
#

Up to preference

nocturne holly
#

Switch in rain is so nice rn

silver ravine
#

Think it was back in Reg D when Archaludon was first out, that I saw a lot of pelipper. Though that doesn't make it necessairly a rain team

molten oasis
modern harbor
#

oh i also have a rillaboom, sylveon, dragapult, meowscarada sitting around

molten oasis
#

Manual is really nice for koraidon tho

modern harbor
#

would any of them be better stand ins?

nocturne holly
#

Yeaa

molten oasis
#

You just ruin its life

#

I think that’s kinda the weakness of koraidon

misty helm
#

I get that he wants to also play Pokémon for fun but I don’t know if that means I need to learn to chill or if he’s excusing himself not to try hard

solid frigate
#

Flutter Mane @ Booster Energy
Ability: Protosynthesis
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 124 HP / 124 Def / 100 SpA / 52 SpD / 108 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Moonblast
  • Shadow Ball
  • Icy Wind
  • Protect

I used this

molten oasis
#

It gets hit by rain it’s just not hitting that hard

solid frigate
#

but i can give you a more accurate set

modern harbor
solid frigate
molten oasis
#

Pult is fine if you use pao

#

Or support screens pult is also okay

modern harbor
#

i've heard power herb dragapult is good against flutter

molten oasis
#

Wisp screens ddarts

molten oasis
modern harbor
#

u can 1 shot flutter turn 1 w phantom

dapper crag
#
Item: Power Herb

Holder's two-turn moves complete in one turn (except Sky Drop). Single use.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0
nocturne holly
#

is that just for phantom force

molten oasis
#

Rillaboom is much better at handling flutter

modern harbor
#

yep

molten oasis
#

It’s not worth it

modern harbor
nocturne holly
#

wood hammer and glide lol

foggy lodge
modern harbor
#

1 shot?

solid frigate
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also beginners really don't wanna use High Skill Ceiling Restricteds like Lugia

molten oasis
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Power herb is better assuming you get something out of it beyond it being faster, like meteor beam with a +1 to spA

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idk if AV kos but with miracle seed i think it's OHK0

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I think some spreads live wood hammer

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No

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Oh nvm

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Flutter can’t live wood hammer without an intimidate

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@modern harbor wood hammer it

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also

foggy lodge
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which restricted best fits my team format?

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What’s the team

modern harbor
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@modern harbor recommend you tried something more meta to gain knowledge on it

nocturne holly
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I mean you should build around a restricted
Not the other way around

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You want a rental?

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i have quite a few of them so options are pretty open

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Cuz I wouldn’t really use that if you’re starting new

foggy lodge
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Like, moth is mid Lugia sucks av flutter is wrong

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just pls don't ruin Pagos or something and i am fine

nocturne holly
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Yeah rentals are the best for new players

foggy lodge
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Try an already established team

molten oasis
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Tera dragon shifu isn’t good

nocturne holly
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you learn about the meta and how different pieces work together

solid frigate
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just go with water for more damage

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well im also a shiny hunter so im not rly interested in using other's mons

nocturne holly
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🗿

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oh my lord this again-

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Alright well then that’s all he gets to use and I’m done helping

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If the limitation is shiny it’s over

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i'm done as well

modern harbor
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there is a reason why my team has no shiny-

foggy lodge
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I mean makes sense

molten oasis
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i'm tired of getting a 27 IV speed Shiny Amogus

nocturne holly
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i feel like irs not that crazy to want to use my own pokemon lol

foggy lodge
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I mean it’s not if you know what you’re doing lol

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sure but your limitations is shiny so its basically limiting a LOT of stuff

modern harbor
solid frigate
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obv my urshifu isnt, neither is lugia

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tbh rentals are better atleast just to test, building a team in game only for it to not work is just a waste of resources you could use for a team that you know is good

modern harbor
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i learnt that in the bad way when i built a Lunala team xd

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its not too bad, it got me easily to ultra ball with like 70%win rate but i had to restart my account

solid frigate
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I think i have the team somewhere

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oh i was using dragonite rillaboom and sylveon too tho

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is koraidon worth building? maybe alongside chien pao and to activate flutter ability

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might as well keep focus on the three restricteds i am using

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(Terapagos,Kyogre,Miraidon)

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i should use one of those 3? i dont hav dlc so either kyogre or mira

foggy lodge
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Miraidon does not need DLC wtf

solid frigate
modern harbor
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I had to remake the team from what i remember

solid frigate
modern harbor
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thats what i said at first

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and lets be real,i love this turtle even more

modern harbor
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i never said mirai needs dlc 😭

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nvm

foggy lodge
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its not as profit like say Miraidon,Calyrex or Terapagos

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Focus on one of this 8

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heck Terapagos now is less popular

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im interested in koraidon and zamazenta

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Groudon is washed sadge

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The Kyogre is washed phase lol

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It kinda is but not that hard

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which is impressive cuz Groudon fucking died

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What losing scald does to a mf

solid frigate
modern harbor
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what are common koraidon counters that i should build around?

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Shiliang Tang probably cracked the code of Gen 9 Kyogre should be

foggy lodge
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Zama

solid frigate
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Caly-Ice too

modern harbor
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Yeah in resricteds those two, in non-restricteds mon it would be Pelipper or Amoonguss

solid frigate
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usually just have something like Raging Bolt against it

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Well Amoonguss is more a check than a counter

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