The top 3 was kinda hard
They're a bit interchangeable tbh
#competitive_discussion
bold geode
Personally out of the 3, I kinda want Terapagos to win cuz like it hasn't won any of the bigger events outside of Japan Nats to my knowledge and it's hit finals of like all but 1-2 of em?
(Not counting the special events it won during the same time of Indy or other streamed regionals)
molten oasis
I want terapagos to win cuz gen 9
bold geode
Basically of regionals broadcasted, it's really only won Japan Nats
molten oasis
And I like it more than the horses
bold geode
But also CSR is pretty damn good (especially with people finally running not double stab) and once again CIR is never bad
(Outside of Bologna special event where I think it's highest placement was 26th?)
But that event was more CSR and Turtle dominant
bold geode
Also I think Kyogre over Mirai cuz like
Kyogre has always been good tbh and people looked at more answers early on for the Mirai MU
bold geode
Where’s mewtwo 😈
In the dumpster where it belongs
molten oasis
I need to learn kyogre eventually
nocturne holly
Also I think Kyogre over Mirai cuz like
Kyogre has always been good tbh and peop...
I can kinda see that
solid frigate
In the dumpster where it belongs
its bad in both Pokemon and Smash lmfao
nocturne holly
mirai is just so strong even with. The answers
bold geode
Once again like
Mewtwo wouldn't be as bad if not for CSR existing
nocturne holly
its bad in both Pokemon and Smash lmfao
Queen Lucina frrr
daring pumice
Mewtwo would cook if car wasn’t a thing it hits hard
solid frigate
Once again like
Mewtwo wouldn't be as bad if not for CSR existing
idk man its still bad-
Like if you want to use a special attacker,just use something that is not Lugia
bold geode
Like sure it might have been a little niche before but like then they added something that was basically everything that Mewtwo wants to be
daring pumice
psychic types in general aren’t great this reg
bold geode
And is good too
daring pumice
Other then that specific one ofc
solid frigate
Calyrex,Lunala,Dawn Wings,Cresselia,farigiraf and Indeedee
Sure they are Psychic Types but they are good not because of the type
bold geode
Like CSR being good and it being what Mewtwo wanted to be like bro lmao
solid frigate
lol
molten oasis
CSR and CIR are good regardless of their typing
daring pumice
Wait ya know what fell off
agile urchin
the semi-falloff of cresselia needs to be studied
daring pumice
Rock types
daring pumice
In like reg e
molten oasis
Cornerstone is strong rn
molten oasis
In like reg e
It was harc
In reg e yea
Rock types weren’t ever that strong this gen
solid frigate
Glimmora,Cornerstone Ogerpon,Hisuian Arkeknine(lel) and T-tar
And thats pretty much it
daring pumice
idk it’s just been a while since I’ve been praying for no flinches thru rock slides
molten oasis
Lando t also being pretty irrelevant is part of that
solid frigate
but thats not a rock type so yeah
bold geode
The Rock Slide users aren't as prominent rn maybe outside of like
If you're Michael Zhang using Tyranitar
nocturne holly
https://pokepast.es/c48b289a519f4aa5 thoughts? Sash on shifu feels so much better than scarf on this team
I’m undecided on the bm ursa spread, max spe or max hp
Also idk what I want incins last move to be
Blitz, wisp, taunt
bold geode
Wisp would be nice
Also yeah lately Sash has been the more go to on Darkshifu
covert moon
https://pokepast.es/c48b289a519f4aa5 thoughts? Sash on shifu feels so much bette...
based miraidon team
daring pumice
What’s the max speed for ?
covert moon
yeah you don't need max speed if ur running tailwind
daring pumice
Unless u have that speed in order to outspeed something ya
nocturne holly
What’s the max speed for ?
In tw it outspeeds csr
nocturne holly
I like max hp more rn
you also need timid to do it so you’re losing out on a little bit of damage
dull ibex
hello
willow vault
hi
nocturne holly
Yea ima try wisp
zinc totem
i klnow this probs dont belong to competitive chat but guys what your opinion would be if this server created its own league with gym leaders, e4 and champion 
bold geode
I wouldn't care cuz I wouldn't compete in it
dapper crag
i klnow this probs dont belong to competitive chat but guys what your opinion wo...
That would be epic
zinc totem
Ik some servers have it for fun and it really only lasts for like half a year
in this big server it would prob last longer depending on amount players want to do so to try challenge themselves or test their teams
but yes it can be very volatile a bit
left spire
very fresh beginner here, anyone willing to check out my swsh team and give me any pointers?
next stump
Are you playing singles or doubles on there?
polar canyon
Did swsh end in like double restricted + dmax allowed?
All I remember is that the latest format goes until December 31 2099 23:59
next stump
yeah series 12 rules returned i think
polar canyon
All I remember is that the latest format goes until December 31 2099 23:59
Wonder if I'll be alive by then
Nintendo switch servers definitely won't
I'll be like 97
cold bison
is sap-sipper better than shell armor for Hisuian Goodra? for singles
dapper crag
I personally think shell armor because, it’s extremely valuable to avoid crits at all times especially in a close game.
Shell armor avoiding all crits is just insanely good.
dapper crag
Your welcome
solid frigate
is sap-sipper better than shell armor for Hisuian Goodra? for singles
Shell Armor is more better in both singles and doubles
and Urshifu can't do shit on you if you Tera lol
cold bison
and you want the tera to be fairy right?
solid frigate
and you want the tera to be fairy right?
Fairy is probably the best Tera for it
rustic mountain
@balmy glen ur in the new wolfey vid idk if u saw
rustic mountain
Did swsh end in like double restricted + dmax allowed?
series 13 was the last format, it was pretty much anything goes, no restricted cap and mythicals were allowed for the 1st time ever
was kind of a shit show lmao but it was fun to end on
daring pumice
I want ag as the last format here ngl
solid frigate
I want ag as the last format here ngl
faint nest
I been Vibin wit specs Archaludon wonder if I can make it better
nocturne holly
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2149475787 what could I have done here
I’m mirai team btw
mighty stump
Turn 3 click Protect
Lol
Idk why you would click TR again in front of Taunt
Also you probably should have targeted Flutter with Mirai
It say there for free clicking buttons
nocturne holly
mhm yea I didn’t target flutter at all
I was thinking of discharge there but didn’t wanna ko incin
polar nest
ayo im kinda cooking with this https://pokepast.es/7a8ff430b14c31de
polar nest
huh
dense anchor
Best tailwind setter , torn right ?
Tera dark 252 SpA 252 Sp 4 SpD
polar nest
Best tailwind setter , torn right ?
Tera dark 252 SpA 252 Sp 4 SpD
that torn set is sad
use a defensive one
dense anchor
that torn set is sad
Sad? I'm below 8,000 in set G , it's worked better for me honestly. Defensive didn't work as well. The question should be revised, Is torn the beet tailwind setter.
polar nest
depends
dense anchor
I feel like the options are lacking .
polar nest
Sad? I'm below 8,000 in set G , it's worked better for me honestly. Defensive d...
that impresses me
for diff teams diff tw setter are better
dense anchor
I've been experimenting and wanted to get thoughts on a tail wind setters. Talon is just ass. Imo
polar nest
only other decent one rn is whimsicott
dense anchor
Jugis works, but lacks prio.
polar nest
whim. si. cott.
gaunt verge
what teams and move sets should I use to beat Lacey in Indigo disc? its doubles if that makes any difference
polar nest
what teams and move sets should I use to beat Lacey in Indigo disc? its doubles ...
thats not really for here, but just use strong steel mons and youll be fine, and bring an elec or grass for primarina
gaunt verge
thats not really for here, but just use strong steel mons and youll be fine, and...
I know that thats not really what this channel is abt but I figured that u guys might have some better insight than just type matching bc thats not really getting me anywhere, like good movesets that would work well in a doubles situation (also idk which channel is better to ask this in)
polar nest
I know that thats not really what this channel is abt but I figured that u guys ...
probs pokemon general, or s/v general
also i just brought like metagross and arch, it wasnt very hard
warped mason
Think of trying sableye over grimsnarl as the screens user for prankster will o wisp on that av ogre wo chien team. Thoughts on that?
polar nest
if it gets too hard u can overlevel and sweep and then move on with ur life
gaunt verge
also i just brought like metagross and arch, it wasnt very hard
whats arch? srry I'm dumb
warped mason
Archaludon
polar nest
archaludon
polar nest
Archaludon
we are like the only comp players here rn, and i am just not advanced enough to help other people i just have this, and it works https://pokepast.es/7a8ff430b14c31de
next stump
Think of trying sableye over grimsnarl as the screens user for prankster will o ...
worth testing for the immunity to fake out
warped mason
Ooo thats a good point
gaunt verge
if it gets too hard u can overlevel and sweep and then move on with ur life
I would if any of the mons on my team wasn't weak or smth
warped mason
Saw it on Ian's day 2 LA lugia team so I thought it'd work well on a defensive ogre team
gaunt verge
thx for the help guys!
next stump
I think it definitely can
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
polar nest
I would if any of the mons on my team wasn't weak or smth
just get exp candies
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
next stump
Substantially worse bulk though which is tough
warped mason
Yeah that is prettys tough
gaunt verge
just get exp candies
I would but either I spend hrs on BBQs or I wait until I get a tera raid that Meowscarada or Annihilape can beat
warped mason
I'll give it a shot tho
polar nest
I would but either I spend hrs on BBQs or I wait until I get a tera raid that Me...
theres a tera raid channel get help there, i gtg
daring field
Does anyone know any kyoger archaludon rental teams?
balmy glen
Does anyone know any kyoger archaludon rental teams?
not a rental but https://pokepast.es/2c73430e6b4bb7bb
mighty stump
Drago is typing
molten oasis
What ball would you put a soon to be rapid strike in
molten oasis
Drago is typing
molten oasis
I have lots of lux so I’ll do that, ty
Training my main team up rn, I want to take that to a limitless tournament or 2 when I get time
THE SWSH WILD BATTLE MUSIC
cyan smelt
Lure ball because water type
molten oasis
This is gonna take a while :/
Lure ball kinda ugly tho
At least I don’t like it too much
I’m like, 90% sure I haven’t gotten a single shake
With being 1hp and asleep
YES A CRIT CAPTURE
lofty tartan
If you have it registered on your file, it always appears as a crit capture, in S/V
Where you've had Urshifu transferred in, it registered it as captured, and so you'll always show a crit capture for a capture animation. Silly, I know.
There is a new element involved in this game, however. If you have already caught a Pokémon then every time you try to capture another of the same species, it will happear to have a Critical Capture if it is to catch a Pokémon. This is purely visual and only happens when you catch the Pokémon to speed up the process.
Like the few seconds really makes a difference 
balmy glen
They do
Those split seconds could stop me from training to become the worlds winner
Those split seconds add up frfr
autumn vault
It looks like i can transfer in legendaries and capture them and get better odds at getting them
molten oasis
Like the few seconds really makes a difference <:arkeknine:669500432741040129>
oh lol, interesting
junior blade
young osprey
Anybody able to help with advice for a 6th for my singles OU team please? Currently using Torkoal with heat rock, Roaring Moon with booster energy, Walking Wake with specs, Zamazenta with leftovers mixed defensive set and Blissey with leftovers. Can’t find a solid sixth, have tried and experimented with loads of different mons
next stump
There’s not too many OU players here unfortunately, so it might be hard to get advice
graceful flare
I think I'm gonna get seizure I'm on vacation and I left my switch at my unlces hose thinking we were gonna stay in my other uncle house for like 3 hours or sum but we actually staying for 4 days and I can't ev train those pokemkn I needed to
willow vault
Then wait till your home
solid frigate
cyan smelt
tortol stronk
cyan smelt
wow that superpower did a lot of damage
solid frigate
wow that superpower did a lot of damage
i mean its max max min Ogerpon
cyan smelt
i wouldn't think that rockpon would be max max though
isn't it usually grasspon that's max max
is grasspon any good?
i feel like it's better than kingambit for dealing with incin because of defiant superpower
solid frigate
is grasspon any good?
eh slightly better than in reg F
cyan smelt
rockpon stronk
autumn vault
eh slightly better than in reg F
Ogerpon was never in Reg D
solid frigate
Ogerpon was never in Reg D
i mean F
autumn vault
And also E since it was around in Reg E
cyan smelt
seems like rockpon has replaced waterpon as most popular ogerpon
autumn vault
And also Hearthflame but it was less common then Wellspring
cyan smelt
hearthflame only on sun teams i thought
cyan smelt
where's that meme, i want zacian, but we have zacian at home
next stump
seems like rockpon has replaced waterpon as most popular ogerpon
it’s super nice into stuff like Caly-I
can’t be redirected by amoonguss which is a large reason those teams switched from amoonguss to stuff like smeargle/electabuzz
cyan smelt
damn smeargle
autumn vault
hearthflame only on sun teams i thought
And HO
But Torrent already said it
And also there are some teams where Hearthflame > Wellspring when usually it's the opposite
cyan smelt
seems like you need strong spread moves to beat caly-i
autumn vault
On my Assault Vest Groudon i run Tera Fire gouging to specifically murder CIR in one shot in the sun
CIR is a pain to deal with
solid frigate
damn smeargle
hate this son of a b
solid frigate
seems like you need strong spread moves to beat caly-i
Unless you are Pagos Chi Yu or Zamazenta
autumn vault
hate this son of a b
Wolfe when he sees Smeargle:
solid frigate
Wolfe when he sees Smeargle:
same
autumn vault
I don't hate Smeargle but don't like it much
cyan smelt
it's annoying for fake out and spore and follow me
next stump
It takes 1 win to make top 8???
solid frigate
It takes 1 win to make top 8???
its a VGC Chat room tour
so its a very small thingy only a few players ;-;
i wanna cry that i lost to Groudon-
bold geode
polar canyon
I need to actually get a good rilla spread
And stop using smogon ones when I can't bother
Anyone got a good av/clear amulet set?
mighty stump
252 Spdef 252 Def 4 Spe
Jk
Ill send you mine
Its more fat than anything
Rillaboom @ Assault Vest
Ability: Grassy Surge
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 12 Atk / 28 Def / 172 SpD / 44 Spe
Impish Nature
- Fake Out
- Grassy Glide
- Wood Hammer
- U-turn
mighty stump
252 Atk Sword of Ruin Chien-Pao Icicle Crash vs. 252 HP / 28+ Def Rillaboom: 176-210 (85 - 101.4%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Beads of Ruin Chi-Yu Heat Wave vs. 252 HP / 172 SpD Assault Vest Rillaboom: 176-210 (85 - 101.4%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
chrome knot
252 Atk Sword of Ruin Chien-Pao Icicle Crash vs. 252 HP / 28+ Def Rillaboom: 17...
whats % on adamant pao
mighty stump
You die
Lol
Its an old spread I never changed since I always had intim
Lmaoo
252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Chien-Pao Icicle Crash vs. 252 HP / 28+ Def Rillaboom: 194-230 (93.7 - 111.1%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
Also sometimes I use it as info to figure out whether or not it's Adamant or Jolly so I know if I outspeed or not
chrome knot
figured 
chrome knot
yus
novel river
Let's be real for a sec, me Vs wolf glick. Who's winning?
chrome knot
So like if I live
so what happens if 1/whatever game happens and you die yo the 6.3%
panic !!
mighty stump
so what happens if 1/whatever game happens and you die yo the 6.3%
Probably
But I haven't had an issue playing with 1/16 rolls tbh
Since the way I look at it is how the full guarantee any chip also alters the % chance significantly anyhow
mighty stump
Coughing Baby
plain drum
charred saddle
Alright now real question of who's winning
Me
Or coughing baby
real question now,
you vs monkey, whos winnning
bold geode
real question now,
you vs monkey, whos winnning
Oh monkey, I'm taking that L gracefully
autumn vault
Finally, a good question from you
charred saddle
Oh monkey, I'm taking that L gracefully
bold geode
Like if I'm gonna die, just throw me in a cage fight with a silverback gorilla
In fact
Forget the world ending in fire or ice
Give us Planet of the Apes
spiral ridge
Like if I'm gonna die, just throw me in a cage fight with a silverback gorilla
Nah find a golden back
autumn vault
Nah find a golden back
Even better: A Diamond Back
Said to be the most powerful land animal to ever exist
Went extinct from a Meteor hundreds of thousands of years in the past
bold geode
Neither exist
Only silverback gorilla
mighty stump
I just wouldn't screw around with a chimpanzee lol
charred saddle
Like if I'm gonna die, just throw me in a cage fight with a silverback gorilla
dont think it had to be a silverback, ull die fighting a baby pygmy marmosets
bold geode
I just wouldn't screw around with a chimpanzee lol
Yeah
Just rip you in half for shits and giggles
spiral ridge
Dude fuck facing off with the baboons they loud and scary
mighty stump
Sure
spiral ridge
I got close to one while little HELL NAH
autumn vault
Chimpanzees are strong
spiral ridge
But baboons don't catch tranq darts and throw em back
They got the trauma damage buff Vs me
mighty stump
Oof
charred saddle
They got the trauma damage buff Vs me
get aped
spiral ridge
They chased my brother that was funny to me tho
bold geode
Chimps be like Tobey Maguire Spider Man catching that grenade
strange fjord
I have memories of monkeys
forest arrow
Who knew throwing Hisui Typhlosion on a Korai team would be so fun lmao
molten oasis
bold geode
<:WolfeGLurk:1231328409020534815>
molten oasis
<:CalyKiss:1238957589719416974>
bold geode
molten oasis
Lmfao
polar canyon
Do you guys ever refresh browser showdown and accidentally load up a random battle
It feels bad because I don't wanna forfeit and lose and tank my rating there
I worked hard for that randbats 1600
strange fjord
Do you guys ever refresh browser showdown and accidentally load up a random batt...
no but i did have it where showdown gave two battles instead of one at the same time
lofty tartan
Man i don't have good memories of monkeys
Because they're wild animals that people think are cute until they have them as a pet and it brutally attacks someone
bold geode
Because they're wild animals that people think are cute until they have them as ...
Meanwhile I don't attack, but people call me ugly 
molten oasis
Meanwhile I don't attack, but people call me ugly <:GengarSad:669500451795763209...
Cuz u are
🫵
bold geode
Damn bitch at least I don't look like a scientist guy
willow vault
Anyways, how we all doing
molten oasis
Damn bitch at least I don't look like a scientist guy
I look better than you at least
My Afro does not compare
bold geode
https://tenor.com/view/linokisser-gif-reaction-tiktok-alien-gif-21656547
Bro's shut down now
forest arrow
Bro's shut down now
hey babe
timber falcon
What an interesting interaction
forest arrow
Its nothing new weve been babes for quite awhile lol
dull ibex
hello
autumn vault
Bye
nocturne holly
Like if I'm gonna die, just throw me in a cage fight with a silverback gorilla
Gorilla would probably destroy me
But I would fucking destroy a boar or a hog in a 1v1
like it would be funny
anyways thoughts? https://pokepast.es/6f20f1fa62dae62a
bold geode
Gorilla would probably destroy me
But I would fucking destroy a boar or a hog i...
I'd probably only beat like a rabbit
nocturne holly
I'd probably only beat like a rabbit
nah you can do better
you could take on a like a porcupine
or maybe a wolf
solid frigate
I'd probably only beat like a rabbit
i can't even beat a cat cuz i would not harm them
solid frigate
anyways thoughts? https://pokepast.es/6f20f1fa62dae62a
i like the core
bold geode
Yeah but like in terms of strength
solid frigate
Yeah but like in terms of strength
fair enough
craggy dagger
nocturne holly
theres an argument for the wolf
you just let it bite an arm off
then beat it with the arm
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
nocturne holly
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2149995833 what could i have done here
solid frigate
<:RobinLurk:1220551545633112165>
hoi nova
wet wedge
Remember kids, never break your own Multiscale
dapper crag
Remember kids, never break your own Multiscale
Lmao
One wrong move can cause you to lose the game.
wet wedge
Indeed.
solid frigate
Remember kids, never break your own Multiscale
even then it can almost OHKO with it so yeah
wet wedge
even then it can almost OHKO with it so yeah
Specs tera electric deals obscene damage yeau
It does 70% with multiscale ig
solid frigate
252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Beads of Ruin Miraidon Electro Drift (133.3251953125 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Multiscale Lugia in Electric Terrain: 237-279 (111.2 - 130.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift (133.3251953125 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Multiscale Lugia in Electric Terrain: 178-210 (83.5 - 98.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
@wet wedge
solid frigate
That's without tera electric too lmao
252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Tera Electric Miraidon Electro Drift (133.3251953125 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Multiscale Lugia in Electric Terrain: 238-280 (111.7 - 131.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
yeah it ohkoa
wet wedge
Yeah lol
Doesn't even need modest actually
If modest does 111% timid should do like 101%
nocturne holly
Tera ground fari is so good
it’s so good paired with mirai and against the mirai mu
graceful flare
252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Tera Electric Miraidon Electro Drift (133.32...
Yapatron
Is av terapagos good
molten oasis
silver ravine
I kinda want to make a Miraidon team. It's one of the few legendries that isn't unique and it's also one of the best legendries atm
graceful flare
I kinda want to make a Miraidon team. It's one of the few legendries that isn't ...
Ngl I think choice specs csr might be good bc if miraidon can one shot most stuff with specs probably so can csr
silver ravine
My only problem choice csr is the fact it doesn't have a pivot mode like miraidon. Though depending on your moves and team, it's less reliant on terrain
graceful flare
I need to use dawn wings necrozma
molten oasis
Ngl I think choice specs csr might be good bc if miraidon can one shot most stuf...
You don’t need specs
CSR really likes bulky set up with cloak/sitrus rn
Miraidon has more multipliers than CSR would
CSR also can’t pivot out like miraidon can
I feel like rn most restricteds have their kinds of teams
So imo I’d stay inside those lines
graceful flare
CSR really likes bulky set up with cloak/sitrus rn
Idk why but it feels strange to say a pokemkn likes something
molten oasis
Why?
graceful flare
Like it sounds like you and it are friends
graceful flare
Like idk how to explain better but it just sounds like that
molten oasis
Is that better
molten oasis
Bulky and allows it to get a nasty plot or calm mind up and sweep
Have you been following meta trends?
graceful flare
Best moceset drain kiss barage and expanding force protcet
molten oasis
The main CSR thing rn is set up with Clefairy and incin/rilla
molten oasis
Best moceset drain kiss barage and expanding force protcet
That’s just wrong
graceful flare
Have you been following meta trends?
I'm on vacation so no
I haven't played in like a week now
molten oasis
That’s been a thing for more than a week
graceful flare
And I don't feel like playing anymore bc I lose way to many matches
Matches
And how will I use dw necrozma
molten oasis
Meteor beam TR guy
Eforce meteor beam moongeist beam and trick room
Add indeedee
charred saddle
just had a very funny game
opp missed 2 thunder waves, while i missed 2 ruination
i hit a crit under opp reflect
but i got 2 full para btb
molten oasis
Ooof
charred saddle
molten oasis
Who won
charred saddle
its so goddamn funny
i won
they cantt kill tinglu
tthey led flutter grim to my tinglu rilla
molten oasis
Lmao
charred saddle
FO grimm heavy slam flutter
flutter protect, flinch grimm
heavy slam grimm, hammer flutter
MB to rilla, reflect grimm
crit on flutter
and then pagos came in and thats when shits funny
Twave starstorm
ruination swap to hitmontop
both miss,
next turn FO pagos, ruination pagos (since i saw the damage and assume it was specs)
and misses again 
dogshit game
sadly i forgot to save replay damn
charred saddle
CB lando T
molten oasis
CB lando T
Eh
molten oasis
CB lando has been a thing before
forest arrow
Bros cooking- something-
charred saddle
ik, but not now and the team lineup
molten oasis
Oh I hate this team but, okaaay
“Is giratina even worth using”
Where the damn giratina fans at cuz all I see is CSR for ghosts
mighty stump
Lol
silver ravine
Thoughts of using Iron Jugulis as a tailwind setter for a miraidon team?
mighty stump
Less consistent than standard Prankster if you’re not Booster Energy
Nice to have against CSR, kinda
silver ravine
Even if you lead with miraidon? For prankster it'll explain why I see people use whim
forest arrow
Yeah less consistent because if terrain gets taken away like from Rilla/Deedee or even ice spinner, the boost is gone
charred saddle
what tofu meant is, then it relies heavily on terrain
u cant lead it with other partner and have the speed needed to set TW
hence, less consistent
prankster mons have the adv to run other items too, like bulky whim with cloak to prevent Fo and making it not have to run ghost tera
or just reg ol sash
but ig the goodthing with jug is that it cant be taunted by prankster tho
silver ravine
charred saddle
dragon cheer miraidon cough cough
nocturne holly
Miraidon is the most majestic thing ever
amoonguss? Resist? Nah that’s light work
Idk why they gave korai sun but made it a fighting type
Dragon fire would’ve worked so well for it theme wise
it would’ve been even better than mirai because sun boosts even more
but there’s intim so I think would’ve evened out
cyan smelt
Collision course can ohko incin
nocturne holly
Yea but it doesn’t fit with the sun theme
nocturne holly
They have really decent bulk
mighty stump
but ig the goodthing with jug is that it cant be taunted by prankster tho
Alongside the fact Whimsi is also good into Bolt
cold bison
For Dragapult in singles is clear body better than Infiltrator
next stump
I'd imagine hitting through sub is pretty nice but I don't play singles so can't say for sure
knotty mirage
I wonder why they make SV DLC legend mid but swsh DLC legend broken asf
rustic mountain
terapagos, miraidon and ogerpon are all really good mons idk wat ur talking about as mid. also all the ruin legends have been good at some point or another. like sure the horses and urshifu are broken but gen 9 legends are no slouches either
knotty mirage
I'm talking about DLC mon actually idk it just comparing urshifu to ogerpon and terapagos to the horse the power level is quite far
rustic mountain
urshifu got mad hate from stuff like waterpon and raging bolt in the dlcs tho cuz it mostly jus wants to click surging strikes on top of counters it already had in amoongus and rilla. and terapagos bst wise may not be as eye popping but it walls csr's main stab and generally has a 50/50 if not favorable matchup depending on team comp into each of them. i think sometimes its easy to look at things as just being broken but not looking at the entire picture whether its a type advantage, tera, in terapagos' case abusing the opposing mons tera, or jus general checks that do exist into those mons outside what they look like on paper w/ stats
graceful flare
Terapagos is tera reliant
knotty mirage
Okay yeah fair enough maybe i'm just seeing too much horses on ranked ladder it starting to get annoying
Terapagos is like easier to deal with
charred saddle
i think its just based on what team you have
graceful flare
Okay yeah fair enough maybe i'm just seeing too much horses on ranked ladder it ...
I get railed by it unless I have a fighting type
knotty mirage
i think its just based on what team you have
The problem is if i try to counter caly shadow i ussualy just die alot too ice rider but if i try to counter ice rider i will have harder time agains't the shadow
rustic mountain
Okay yeah fair enough maybe i'm just seeing too much horses on ranked ladder it ...
i mean make no mistake, they are broken haha, its just i think it can be exaggerated how much the case that is
theres tools/ways of dealing w/ em its just less forgiving wen u make a mistake cuz of the boosts
but thats the case for any strong restricted in the sense of being caught out
rustic mountain
breaks never hurt
i kinda say it a lot but its really just identifying what the issue is, your team or ur play. usually if u can think of better lines/ turns wen u lose that put u in a winning position, its ur play, otherwise if u feel the team had no answers u gta re evaluate teras/moves/mons etc
graceful flare
I think the reason they make absurdly bulky ice types is so they can balance their bulk by giving them only one resistance
karmic temple
solid frigate
Terapagos is tera reliant
i legit don't know why you use Pagos if you always Tera
Heck i Tera Urshifu or Chi Yu sometimes
patent marsh
i legit don't know why you use Pagos if you always Tera
Heck i Tera Urshifu or ...
To be fair it's still a valid point they're making, the majority of terapagos games it does tera cause it is just better for it
Some people don't like that
solid frigate
Some people don't like that
but like i don't see the issue,Normal Terastal Pagos is already strong enough
solid frigate
Some other restricteds have better flexibility with the tera
at least is better than Wo Chien in that department
patent marsh
Wo Chien isn't a restricted though 
idk why you're pointing that out
solid frigate
Wo Chien isn't a restricted though <:quaxly_stare:947793864532586526> idk why yo...
i mean the Tera Reliant department-
patent marsh
i mean the Tera Reliant department-
Yea but we're talking about restricteds
solid frigate
Lunala,Calyrex be like-
These are also Tera Reliant,and nobody mention it-
I saw them Tera More than Terapa did-
cyan smelt
Koraidon tera reliant
rustic mountain
i think its important to note that something can be tera reliant and still be good
cyan smelt
Terapagos still good without tera
rustic mountain
its ok
usually whether its specs or cm ur gearing up to tera it nd start just blasting things w/ double target tera starstorm
foggy lodge
i legit don't know why you use Pagos if you always Tera
Heck i Tera Urshifu or ...
I only tera Terapagos or Amoonguss lmao
And sometimes Tornadus because it helps a lot against the Caly Shadow Match Up but that's like 2% of the times
graceful flare
i legit don't know why you use Pagos if you always Tera
Heck i Tera Urshifu or ...
Maybe I tera bc if I don't tera my opponent has a restricted legendary and I have a pseudo legendary instead
nocturne holly
usually whether its specs or cm ur gearing up to tera it nd start just blasting ...
Weird thing about teraoagos is that once you Tera you actually do less damage I think because of the spread
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
autumn vault
Koraidon tera reliant
It doesn't have to tera to be a very good mon, it just terastalizes to be even better
It can still be very good without tera
But yeah it loves using the tera
mighty stump
Weird thing about teraoagos is that once you Tera you actually do less damage I ...
Less damage cause of Spread and the fact it loses STAB
It only has the Stellar 1.2x bonus
molten oasis
Less damage cause of Spread and the fact it loses STAB
what u working on rn?
team wise
molten oasis
oh that lol
mighty stump
Although I’m not gonna say
molten oasis
that restricted returned lol
mighty stump
I’m genuinely unscoutable
molten oasis
thats interesting
they have to click buttons right then
or ig, make decisions quickly, right?
mighty stump
Wdym
molten oasis
i think i interpreted unscoutable wrong
mighty stump
Bare Limitless history too
So you can’t really interpret what I’d bring
and I play wack shit on purpose only I can play too
Or it could be completely standard
molten oasis
they'll never know lol
wish i was better at piloting niche stuff but all its gotten me is pain lol
except pult idk why pult just works
is that a draft tournament or smth? the thing you're doing
balmy glen
and I play wack shit on purpose only I can play too
Snorlax is pretty normal compared to what I usually see from friends atp
mighty stump
Snorlax is pretty normal compared to what I usually see from friends atp
TRUE but you haven’t seen my other sets
Did you see this current Snorlax set though
balmy glen
TRUE but you haven’t seen my other sets
Nope
upbeat quail
When Tofu cooks it’s always super cool
When I cook, I burn the food
For example https://pokepast.es/088ce0cb58875a8e
I’m thinking about swapping out knock off on scizor for Dual Wingbeat though
mighty stump
When Tofu cooks it’s always super cool
It all still falls under bad sets 😎
upbeat quail
Bad sets are all the more satisfying to win with though!
Low key though I can see scizor being more popular as the meta progresses. I’m probably crazy though.
upbeat quail
I’ve played with your teams before. They are a bit difficult to pilot at times but I still enjoy them more than cookie-cutter meta teams.
mighty stump
Yeah it’s cause they’re mainly tailored to how I am willing to play
Not that I’m a more difficult pilot/skilled pilot but I just play different
Lol
balmy glen
lmaooooooo
mighty stump
I’m average
balmy glen
Sure
balmy glen
https://pokepast.es/f92ca182f947c62d
No t100 is the theme?
mighty stump
No t100 is the theme?
Yea
mighty stump
Pokemon HOME data
azure ether
Has anyone ever tried hyper training a mon at lv 50 and then sending it back over to SwSh?
zinc totem
Is sneasler worth to consider for competitive ladder or nah?
azure ether
It shouldn't have hyper trained stats when it's sent back there, right?
next stump
It shouldn't have hyper trained stats when it's sent back there, right?
Why would it lose the training?
I’m 99% sure that’s a permanent change to the pokemon
next stump
Is sneasler worth to consider for competitive ladder or nah?
It's a bit of a cheesy pick but I think it's gotten worse with the introduction of Restricted pokemon, probably not worth seriously considering
but you can make a team with it and it can do something
azure ether
Why would it lose the training?
I was thinking it would since it's lv 50, and hyper training in SwSh is at 100
zinc totem
It's a bit of a cheesy pick but I think it's gotten worse with the introduction ...
Was more out of curiousity cuz seen several of them in ladder
But good to confirm its somewhat bad in ladder haha
next stump
chat dead
polar canyon
Hi
I'm tryna figure out how you actually optimize hp evs for lefties healing
It's way easier than I expected
polar canyon
+1?
polar canyon
First google result was immediately wrong then
mighty stump
What was the first google result
polar canyon
Actually it was from 2011
I need to check sources more often
Should I be doing that lefties thing for terapagos?
Next to rilla for the protect spam trying to get tera shell back
mighty stump
So one thing that is important to understand is that optimisation never takes priority over important calcs
If you can optimise, great
But it's not entirely necessary
polar canyon
Right thanks for the tip
I'm figuring important calcs are like zama body press vs stellar form
mighty stump
Important calcs are whatever you think are relevant
polar canyon
So that
zinc totem
i saw something cool gimmick usage for hisuian lilligant: entertainment to groudon to give chlorophyl
zinc totem
i always read it entertainment 
polar canyon
It was cool last gen seeing cherrim next to groudon
What's easy to forget about cherrim is that the sun form change gives a 50% attack and spdef boost to both itself and the ally
So groudon with free attack and spdef boost because it's next to a little cherry blossom
zinc totem
haha. but entrainment hisui lilligant with chlorophyll is funny thiink about cuz groudon makes sun so groudon becomes
its hilarious ngl
polar canyon
That sounds cool
Only nice for groudon
If you use it for like koraidon you're also taking away the 30% attack boost for being in sun
zinc totem
thats why i said groudon not koraidon
polar canyon
And for torkoal it's still only doubling the speed of a literal tortoise with 30 base speed
zinc totem
ninetales never uses drought and if does then maybe
but no one uses ninetales anyway outside alola
mighty stump
And for torkoal it's still only doubling the speed of a literal tortoise with 30...
Still can outspeed Adamant Shifu
polar canyon
Ninetales is the forgotten 4th option
polar canyon
The fun ends when the pelipper switches in
zinc totem
or tyranitar or kytogre
but imagine if water pokemon had entrainment and swift swim
polar canyon
Does the showdown damage calc work for stellar tera starstorm?
I thought it was a fun little strat when ribombee had speed swap
polar canyon
Right
polar canyon
I only use the showdown one because it shows up in my most used when opening a tab
So like it's faster
chrome knot
Can't believe yall still use the SD calc
me when i likr using incorrect calculators and wondering why my answers arent correct
mighty stump
Lmao
zinc totem
Can't believe yall still use the SD calc
name better calc 
polar canyon
me when i likr using incorrect calculators and wondering why my answers arent co...
Ngl I was coming up with makeshift solutions
chrome knot
he literally did
zinc totem
He literally did
i dont see it unless its before it
polar canyon
The link
zinc totem
#feelingblind
chrome knot
Ngl I was coming up with makeshift solutions
LOL bruh was the math equation when he had 366262 watermelons to share with his 0.3333333334 friends
polar canyon
I put tera starstorm twice on the set but one I made stellar type because it doesn't automatically change to stellar type whenever you click the tera button on sd calc
Is it at all worth running tri attack on terapagos since it keeps normal 2x stab once you tera
It's funny how pagos is one of the very few mons you actively plan for terastalizing as a best case scenario
Has there been any other like this?
Where when you're in the position you really want to be at, you tera
I guess stellar tera blast contrary enamorus if we count gimmicks
mighty stump
Is it at all worth running tri attack on terapagos since it keeps normal 2x stab...
Not really
Unless you wanna do both Tera Starstorm/Tri Attack only
But like it basically does the same as an unterastalised Tera Starstorm
So just
lusty gull
Hey! I'm trying to build a Skeledirge set and I want to replicate the bulky attacker set from Pokemon Showdown, I'm unsure of which nature and EV's to implement to it. The moveset is Slack Off, Shadow Ball, Flame Charge, Torch Song, HDB item and tera fairy. Does anyone have a good idea of what nature and EV spread to use?
(I posted in the wrong channel before lmao)
mighty stump
Don't Tera
mighty stump
Hey! I'm trying to build a Skeledirge set and I want to replicate the bulky atta...
Is this for competitive use?
Since that set only applies for OU
Or whatever tier it's been sent to
mighty stump
Well, EVs wise for casual play is just max HP max SpA and Modest
lusty gull
Essentially just build it as a special attacker as flame charge is only for the speed boost?
mighty stump
It is? I mean again, what format are you trying to play?
Cause moveset/EVs are variable here and there isn't a one best fits all
lusty gull
I haven't quite decided yet lmao, I'm trying to get back into the game and sorta dip my toes in
mighty stump
Generally I understand if people want to use competitive sets for casual use and so I tend to just send standard offensive sets
lusty gull
I'll just say casual then yeah
mighty stump
Then just max hp max spa, modest nature, replace Flame Charge for Earth Power/Alluring Voice
lusty gull
Okok, thank you very much 🙂
polar canyon
Hey tofu
Think it's worth calcing for max adamant urshifu close combat after an incineroar fake out?
mighty stump
Idk if you ever wanna take that for free but it's nice if you know you can live a CC from Urshifu even after some chip
polar canyon
Ye that's what I'm thinking
Usually I don't wanna have my pagos eat a close combat
So it's a last case scenario
That's actually a ton of investment to make
polar canyon
Maybe investing heavily into a last case scenario isn't something I should do
Is that right?
solid frigate
or add Raging Bolt to clear out Urshifu Rapid Strike,Its decent
polar canyon
I think I'm almost set on team members
solid frigate
show us
polar canyon
It's another 5 solid mons 1 more goofy guy team
solid frigate
It's another 5 solid mons 1 more goofy guy team
i wanna see the team
zinc totem
if theoreticaly i would want use sneasler, would it have fake out and fairy tera? or is flying or ghost tera only viable options?
zinc totem
ah yes Ditto the goofy guy
polar canyon
It's armarouge
polar canyon
Oh how'd you know I have ditto then
zinc totem
wild guess
cuz ditto is only one i can think of being goofy guy beacuse its usage is so funny and goofy
polar canyon
I gave ditto silly stats because they don't matter
solid frigate
You're gonna like this one
Ditto with these EVs is quite interesting tho i would recommend replace armarouge as its literally Urshifu Food here and Terapagos as well
Maybe Incineroar or Raging Bolt?
polar canyon
if theoreticaly i would want use sneasler, would it have fake out and fairy tera...
Are you planning on using it?
zinc totem
Are you planning on using it?
i said theoretically
polar canyon
Ditto with these EVs is quite interesting tho i would recommend replace armaroug...
Fiiine maybe I'll think about using incin for the 6 solid mons team
I mean incin still is urshifu food lol
zinc totem
I mean incin still is urshifu food lol
incin offers intimidate and fakeout so utility is more valuable. thats what i understood haha
solid frigate
Fiiine maybe I'll think about using incin for the 6 solid mons team
i think you can still try it but just make a backup for this team if its not good
polar canyon
I'm keeping pelipper and incin as backup plan ideas if my questionable armarouge idea ends up being a bad armarouge idea
solid frigate
I'm keeping pelipper and incin as backup plan ideas if my questionable armarouge...
thats fine,thats a good habit before building teams ingame
polar canyon
My thought process was just like
Hmmm pagos dies to zama and koraidon
This guy has wide guard and I like spamming wisp/stat drops and this guy has wisp
autumn vault
Hmmm pagos dies to zama and koraidon
There is Volcarona to keep those 2 in check
polar canyon
So maybeeee
autumn vault
Unless Koraidon Tera Fire
polar canyon
There is Volcarona to keep those 2 in check
Fair enough I do love volc and already have a set for it and it does have redirection to let me spam calm mind
Bye bye armarouge
solid frigate
Hmmm pagos dies to zama and koraidon
Pagos Volcarona is decent
i tried it before
tho i still think Chi Yu is better due to Haha Zamazenta Delete Button go brrr
polar canyon
Overheat Volc was a zama delete button in my latest team
With the sun from koraidon
solid frigate
Overheat ah ok
polar canyon
Like mostly support but 4th move slot is overheat just in case
I need to see how much it does without sun
Just over 2/3 to the standard set
solid frigate
36+ SpA Volcarona Overheat vs. 204 HP / 12 SpD Ogerpon-Wellspring: 109-130 (60.2 - 71.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
polar canyon
I'm only using 4 spa
solid frigate
4+ SpA Volcarona Overheat vs. 204 HP / 12 SpD Ogerpon-Wellspring: 106-126 (58.5 - 69.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
i think for neutral its decent
polar canyon
I think I made my volc 236+ speed to wisp non scarf shifus
polar canyon
So the one I have is not the bulkiest
Overheat on it is good when you need that extra damage
autumn vault
Volcarona the bug goat
polar canyon
I can probably work with a double up kill on zama
solid frigate
Chi Yu 🤝 Volcarona
nuke stuff with Overheat
polar canyon
All of this is if it doesn't tera
solid frigate
4+ SpA Volcarona Overheat vs. 220 HP / 84 SpD Zamazenta-Crowned: 150-176 (76.9 - 90.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
About that-
chrome knot
yay my volc spread ohkos
polar canyon
Share
chrome knot
no?
polar canyon
Dang at least I tried
My "spread" is almost max max
Because it's max hp and 236+ speed
I like it fast
solid frigate
4+ SpA Volcarona Overheat vs. 220 HP / 84 SpD Zamazenta-Crowned: 150-176 (76.9 -...
oh yeah it can almost kill Zama without Sun so you are chilling
polar canyon
It's not modest
solid frigate
oh
4 SpA Volcarona Overheat vs. 220 HP / 84 SpD Zamazenta-Crowned: 134-162 (68.7 - 83%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
polar canyon
But it can just barely ohko the standard nerd of now set in sun at timid 4 spa
Like very barely guaranteed
solid frigate
4 SpA Volcarona Overheat vs. 220 HP / 84 SpD Zamazenta-Crowned in Sun: 204-242 (104.6 - 124.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
still an OHKO but like if you landed that is
polar canyon
At least it's not fire blast
solid frigate
fair
polar canyon
Tbh fire blast only has 5% less accuracy
Overheat is the new fire blast
At least it's not hydro pump
Fire blast is the new hydro pump
At least it's not fissure
Ok im done
solid frigate
Volcarona @ Leftovers
Ability: Flame Body
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 164 HP / 52 Def / 44 SpA / 4 SpD / 244 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Flamethrower
- Quiver Dance
- Struggle Bug
- Protect
I just use this
44 Modest can two shot Zamazenta
it can outspeed non scarf Urshifu
i made it 2 modes,Offensive sweeper and support
solid frigate
it can outspeed non scarf Urshifu
and it can survive one wicked Blow
polar canyon
Volcarona @ Leftovers
Ability: Flame Body
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs...
Nice nice I just like using a fully support based one
I never looked into what way of using it is more common
Mines just wisp struggle bug for damage mitigation, rage powder for redirection and overheat because you never know when you'll need it
And outspeeds jolly non scarf urshifu
solid frigate
i have thought about Wisp but ya know Protect is just too good
polar canyon
Volcarona @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Flame Body
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 12 Def / 4 SpA / 4 SpD / 236 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Will-O-Wisp
- Overheat
- Struggle Bug
- Rage Powder
solid frigate
hmmm
polar canyon
It's not calcd to live anything specific
Hard to do that with 270 evs leftover after investing in speed
solid frigate
fair point
polar canyon
I probably could do that for something
It is pretty funny see bulky torn do very little to it after 2 struggle bugs
solid frigate
fair its hilarious
polar canyon
What's not funny is when you click rage powder and see the animation for an offensive tera from the opponent start playing
autumn vault
It is pretty funny see bulky torn do very little to it after 2 struggle bugs
As a bulky tornadus player this statement is very true
polar canyon
Tera water volc was actually goated next to bolt for the torn kyogre mu when playing my koraidon team
I could afford to have bolt eat one ice beam in case they started the battle off with that while Volc struggle bugs once
The rest of it was absorbed by rage powder water volcarona
While keeping korai in the back for the weather war
I actually should remake my koraidon team someday
I'm a bit unsatisfied with my kingambit mode and wanna ditch it for a better caly answer
I tend to ramble in chat way too often
Then get awkward when no ones responding
autumn vault
Yeah, i can see why
solid frigate
i'm gonna go to interview to be a Pharmacy Apprentice,Wish me luck
zinc totem
anyone else have problem that in team builder of pikalytics you cant choose moves abilities etc for ogerpon well-spring?
mighty stump
zinc totem
https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/teambuilder
yeah thats what im using rn
dull ibex
yeah thats what im using rn
no you said pikalytics lmao
dull ibex
anyone else have problem that in team builder of pikalytics you cant choose mov...
no issues on showdown
autumn vault
anyone else have problem that in team builder of pikalytics you cant choose mov...
0 issues
It's a you problem
zinc totem
no you said pikalytics lmao
i just asked pikalytics as its part of planning im using but somehow it doesnt let me check ogerpon wellspring moves and such thats weird part. But im team buiilding on showdown
zinc totem
It's a you problem
i guess so, pikalytics dont want me check ogerpon-wellspring data
cuz other pokemons i can do just fine but not ogerpon
mighty stump
Eh
Pikalytic's team tools are outdated anyways
So it's meh to use
Only real reason to use it too
polar canyon
Munchstats on top
zinc totem
imagine f someone did clown mode in ranked and went skill swap huge power medicam to their physical sweeper
mighty stump
Already has happened
You just tend to not see these things since it’s difficult to actually get going lol
bold geode
You just tend to not see these things since it’s difficult to actually get going...
That's what you think bucko 
autumn vault
Munchstats over Pikalytics every day of the week
strange fjord
Pikalytic's team tools are outdated anyways
so what you're saying is that we need a new teambuilding tool comparable to Pikalytics? 👀
autumn vault
I'm not Tofu but most likely yeah
Your website is far superior to Pikalytics anyways
calm gulch
#BullyMonke #MonkeAsmr
autumn vault
I saw that Sour Cigar
nocturne holly
yea i saw the bio 💀
autumn vault
It happens
finite vine
I finally found it!
autumn vault
Nice
finite vine
When I first found it I wasn't really excited cuz a couple encounters ago I found 2 Calyrex that were solwer than my Pokemon that had a 86 speed only to end up being a calyrex with a nature that lowers speed so I thought this one was the same but then when I checked it said "no good" and freak the hell out lmao
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
next stump
I finally found it!
congrats 🙂
silver ravine
I finally found it!
How many resets did it take? I wish I wasn't so lazy when it came to resetting
finite vine
How many resets did it take? I wish I wasn't so lazy when it came to resetting
It took like a hundred encounters but then gave up like a couple of months ago then I tried it again today and got it after 20 tries lol
finite vine
congrats 🙂
Thanks! 
gentle cragBOT
Thanks! <:RowletHello:710508807343702066>
kumotzu has given 1 Gen Rep to mlbd
finite vine
Ikr? I was surprised too lol
silver ravine
Really ought to be a way decrease IVs like how we can increase them or change a mon's nature.
nocturne holly
rusty bottle cap fr
finite vine
I just made the process easier by just having a really slow pokemon and if calyrex was slower than my already slow pokemon then that meant I actually got it 0-1 IV (But got tricked like 2 times with lowering speed natures lol)
finite vine
rusty bottle cap fr
they need to do this ngl
next stump
wow 100+ checks is very unlucky…
it’s just 1/16 odds basically
considering 0 and 1IV are functionally the same
finite vine
wow 100+ checks is very unlucky…
VERY unlucky. What made it worst is that I would literally catch it without knowing it was actually 0-1 IV so I spent A LOT of time catching a pokemon that wasn't even the one I wanted so had to reset and repeat 🥲
strange fjord
rusty bottle cap is hard to justify for Game Freak bc casual players might not realize that they are making their Pokemon weaker. They need a way to make it easily reversible and have some benefits for the casual player like increases happiness quite a bit.
unlike EV reducing berries, which the casual player would get EVs back though normal gameplay, the IV reducing wouldn't have a natural way to be restored
dense anchor
Anyone know if Psych Up works on own pokemon or just foe?
strange fjord
Anyone know if Psych Up works on own pokemon or just foe?
you can use psych up on your ally pokemon
dense anchor
Ty
nocturne holly
Bo3 anyone
nocturne holly
rusty bottle cap is hard to justify for Game Freak bc casual players might not r...
I don’t think it’s out of the question yet
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
nocturne holly
can you put this into a paste please 🙏
dense anchor
Going to tweak but the idea is there.
dense anchor
can you put this into a paste please 🙏
I don't know how to do that 👀
nocturne holly
I don't know how to do that 👀
put it into showdown and its at the bottom
strange fjord
check out my unintentional bo3 on the bo1 ladder
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2150679181?p2
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2150683404?p2
nocturne holly
4 full paras in a row
fickle veldt
what should i run on my hidden ab blaziken
foggy lodge
Is it better to invest more into Clefairy's defenses or HP?
mighty stump
Both
Technically with Eviolite your Defenses are going to be higher than your HP, and since your base stats start off about equal, HP has a lot of value since it counts towards both Spdef/Def investments
mighty stump
what should i run on my hidden ab blaziken
SD/Close Combat/Protect + a Fire STAB that isn’t Flare Blitz if you’re Focus Sash
fickle veldt
SD/Close Combat/Protect + a Fire STAB that isn’t Flare Blitz if you’re Focus Sas...
blaze kick?
foggy lodge
Technically with Eviolite your Defenses are going to be higher than your HP, and...
Ohhh right, thanks
next stump
LOL
covert moon
LOL
balmy glen
lmaooo
solid frigate
this is kinda hilarious when i tried Doubles Ubers-
rustic mountain
Lmfao, that has to be an edit there’s no way wolfe looks so similar to Malcolm?
ur kidding right? the pic is of dani avdija not brogdon
molten oasis
I DONT KNOW SPORTS OKAY
rustic mountain
u dont say
rustic mountain
ahha
molten oasis
cough anyway what you working on
rustic mountain
atm? nothing. prolly gna try zama or miraidon next. jus been using the wo chien team wen ive played recently
only team ive built for this format is csr ho which oddly still works
molten oasis
Think it’s that time in the meta
Where it’s just quiet
New stuff isn’t really gonna pop up at this point
rustic mountain
been a decent amount of meta progression so far but yea eventually it settles
molten oasis
Think most of the cores have been established for every good restricted
rustic mountain
mostly jus ev spreads/specific item choices and tera that will be the distinguishing factor id say
molten oasis
Yea for sure
And some teams having slight pick changes
Since those can change how your mu’s are and such
rustic mountain
idt other ppl r gna opt for weird restricted choices for worlds, 1 restricted is too unforgiving
u hit a few bad mus cuz other ppl do the same and ur run is over
bold geode
@mighty stump help me, Nova got me playing HSR
molten oasis
idt other ppl r gna opt for weird restricted choices for worlds, 1 restricted is...
There’s no point
rustic mountain
<@250386799363489808> help me, Nova got me playing HSR
isnt that a gacha game
molten oasis
The top 8 (imo) have been established
bold geode
Yes
rustic mountain
wats ur top 8
molten oasis
Kind of a tie with the top 4
CSR, CIR, Pagos, then Miraidon, Zama, Kyogre, Koraidon, Zac
bold geode
I can feel the women going away slowly
I had 0 bitches, but apparently you can go negative in that department
rustic mountain
CSR, CIR, Pagos, then Miraidon, Zama, Kyogre, Koraidon, Zac
ours is similar enough but i have ogre over zama and lunala over zacian
bold geode
Tree I can feel the gambling addiction hitting
rustic mountain
yea i think 7 and 8 just arent gna b that great regardless wat u have there
molten oasis
so does Zac at times but I chose to suffer lol
rustic mountain
they are fringe picks
molten oasis
Yea
rustic mountain
Tree I can feel the gambling addiction hitting
get out while u can haha
molten oasis
At least for me Zac has a good speed tier and valuable typing into the format
rustic mountain
i jus think lunala is slightly more favored atm
molten oasis
Lunala just seems like bulky ass CSR
rustic mountain
but i get y some1 would have zacian there instead
molten oasis
Yea
rustic mountain
im def not fully ready to move on from reg g only cuz i havent been able to play/build out other teams i wanna try yet
molten oasis
I am
rustic mountain
i can tell lol
molten oasis
I want double so Zac doesn’t have to carry the fucking team
bold geode
get out while u can haha
Lol
molten oasis
With swords dance and no incin yea but incin fucking ruins it
And it’s the highest used Mon in the format
rustic mountain
yep lmao
molten oasis
If it wasn’t, idt Zac would be as bad
rustic mountain
that or if it was jus swsh where it had +1 wen it switched in
then u can jus play around it way easier
molten oasis
Man I think it should get that back
rustic mountain
now u jus have it in back and either clear incin or eat the intimidate and figure it out
molten oasis
For a RESTRICTED I feel like it’s fine
molten oasis
ESPECIALLY considering the levels of CSR and CIR
Dumb man
Like imo they should give back either its old attack stat or revert the intrepid sword nerf
Both was brutal
rustic mountain
molten oasis
They could not but we’ll see
cyan smelt
DLC mons won't get nerfed
molten oasis
Tera also does too much for them
molten oasis
DLC mons won't get nerfed
We can hope
cyan smelt
There are no good steel types that don't die to astral barrage
rustic mountain
Tera also does too much for them
snarl or any dark move used to put the fear of god into csr, now u jus tera and shrug it off and cm or nasty plot then jus destroy them
molten oasis
snarl or any dark move used to put the fear of god into csr, now u jus tera and ...
Stupid pokemon with Tera lol
At least next gen it’ll be gone, probably
rustic mountain
foggy lodge
DLC mons won't get nerfed
They nerfed Regieleki at least
Tbh i think the priority should to nerf both Calyrex not Regieleki lmao
patent marsh
Caly ice did get a small nerf ye?
foggy lodge
Nah
patent marsh
Iirc glacial lance was higher
foggy lodge
Or yes?
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.28.0
foggy lodge
Ah yes
patent marsh
Ye 10 lower
patent marsh
Is the power of the move when dynamaxed?
Ye
cyan smelt
Urshifu single got a small nerf
patent marsh
Urshifu single got a small nerf
Yea from 80 to 75/70
cyan smelt
That was more to make it equal to urshifu rs
mighty stump
Wicked Blow too gud
rustic mountain
molten oasis
Me when someone breathes
Great thing to walk into comp chat and see
molten oasis
Yea from 80 to 75/70
Wasn’t rapid strike still considered the better form?
patent marsh
🤷♂️ I didn't play vgc til SV
molten oasis
Ic
patent marsh
I do remember seeing a lot of clips between the 2
So Idk which one is the more popular pick
molten oasis
I feel like single was better but idk
patent marsh
I think so too
molten oasis
Single murdered the 2 caly’s
patent marsh
Especially with calyrex being weak to dark
molten oasis
Now single is like, sad lol