im not the best with paying attention to people who are clueless i must add
#competitive_discussion
chrome knot
zinc totem
to talk foolishly or without purpose;
devout mist
im not the best with paying attention to people who are clueless i must add
??? you telling me I'm clueless
devout mist
to talk foolishly or without purpose;
wtf ?!?!
zinc totem
its subtle way to notice that the way you talk, knowledge is insufficient
devout mist
its subtle way to notice that the way you talk, knowledge is insufficient
??? subtle
zinc totem
short of it
devout mist
they think acting superior makes them genius or something ?!?!
zinc totem
waffling is slang which is subtle
chrome knot
no just seeing you talk makes me realize you have no idea what ur on about
devout mist
no just seeing you talk makes me realize you have no idea what ur on about
what makes you think you have an idea yourself then
cause eforce on lunala is not run xD
charred saddle
what about more experience? especially when ur new to the "metagame"
chrome knot
because lunala is commonly found on tr BALANCE
devout mist
because lunala is commonly found on tr BALANCE
that doesn't answer the eforce
chrome knot
where they DONT HAVE INDEEDEE SO IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE TO RUN IT!!
devout mist
using archetypes to defend a specific moveslot is not very advanced gaming
ima let you yap tbh
better like this
next stump
my eyeballs
zinc totem
using archetypes to defend a specific moveslot is not very advanced gaming
okay this shows you dont have idea 
Eforce is run on lunala in teams that has indeedee while teams where more used lunala is not used indeedee those teams
chrome knot
Dillon reg for solarflare ends july 6 btw^
devout mist
Your point of view isn't the whole understanding of the game btw
zinc totem
Your point of view isn't the whole understanding of the game btw
and yours is?
devout mist
and yours is?
You surely think of it in this way since you think you got an idea
next stump
It took all of 5 seconds to find a team that earned CP at NAIC that had Lunala with Expanding Force alongside Indeedee
zinc totem
You surely think of it in this way since you think you got an idea
indeedee lunala teams is not even NEW idea
chrome knot
LMFAOOOO
zinc totem
its actually generally USED
chrome knot
ermmmm….
chrome knot
no expanding force lunalas?
for someone who spoke “meta” and “results” that seems quite odd you missed that
zinc totem
like eforce lunala is used in meta
devout mist
for someone who spoke “meta” and “results” that seems quite odd you missed that
someone needs to touch grass
eforce lunala is a niche from what you say
zinc totem
someone needs to touch grass
and we have here mad boy whose argument got destroyed
chrome knot
awww proven wrong now all whiney🥺
devout mist
and we have here mad boy whose argument got destroyed
no, they are a niche
zinc totem
in instant when proven wrong .lul
zinc totem
no, they are a niche
do you even check meta gaming
chrome knot
its not a niche😭
devout mist
never said team wasn't run
next stump
@devout mist If you can find one Indeedee + Lunala regional/IC team that doesn’t have Expanding Force on Lunala, you’ll prove yourself right
chrome knot
thats like saying close combat ice rider is a niche
devout mist
its not a niche😭
so requiring a partner to set something for you to use that move is not a niche
zinc totem
It took all of 5 seconds to find a team that earned CP at NAIC that had Lunala w...
dillojn literally found team that earned CP at NAIC and also its used by plenty people in master ball tier
chrome knot
NO
expanding force + psyterrain is pretty common as its own archetype called psyspam
devout mist
I love reading different opinions on the matter
zinc totem
so requiring a partner to set something for you to use that move is not a niche
do you even know what niche means
chrome knot
id know bc i gained 200cp with it
devout mist
Learn something everyday
devout mist
do you even know what niche means <:LUL:574672073797009408>
Don't worry, I'm not asking you to explain it lol
zinc totem
its no longer nice when its actually used in competitive matches and actual ranked ladder quite often
as part of meta
devout mist
its no longer nice when its actually used in competitive matches and actual ran...
Lunala barely shows up in most tournaments
chrome knot
@next stump can there be a server level minimum requirement before you can be here😵💫
devout mist
<@197813560997314562> can there be a server level minimum requirement before you...
There should be a minimum of civism though
Aggro folks like you make me go nuts
I've got tough skin for toxic elitists jerk this being said
zinc totem
Lunala barely shows up in most tournaments
goodle docs disagrees whats pinned 
devout mist
goodle docs disagrees whats pinned <:Kappa:425017987251044362>
They sort of agree though
It shows up, but barely
chrome knot
intolerable weirdos who think they know what they’re talking about is the problem
zinc totem
i see there 10 teams with lunala which is pretty big usage
devout mist
intolerable weirdos who think they know what they’re talking about is the proble...
that describes you right now, careful
next stump
You came into this chat, gave incorrect advice, got corrected by someone who’s worked with that archtype of team before, and then accuse them of being aggressive
charred saddle
lunala barely appears, but when it does WITH indeedee, it has eforce,
thats the case we are talking about
chrome knot
you were literally proved wrong almost immediately
devout mist
You came into this chat, gave incorrect advice, got corrected by someone who’s w...
I gave no advice, if you thought it was then everything you read could be mistaken as advice
devout mist
thats the case we are talking about
yes thank you, someone gets what I'm talking about
gentle cragBOT
yes thank you, someone gets what I'm talking about
wittyremy has given 1 Gen Rep to abused1
charred saddle
what
devout mist
Lunala isn't showing up as the pick to be brought in every tournament I see
next stump
zinc totem
saying eforce makes little sense is advice given
charred saddle
im not even with u 
devout mist
saying eforce makes little sense is advice given
as a tech no
next stump
You realize how the person asking for Lunala help can construe that as advice, right?
chrome knot
lunala barely appears, but when it does WITH indeedee, it has eforce,
because go fucking figure psychic terrain and expanding force go hand in hand😭
devout mist
You realize how the person asking for Lunala help can construe that as advice, r...
up to them, I just say lunala doesn't run eforce much
zinc totem
as a tech no
also witty, i've been here long enough i've seen this chat TOP competitive players also saying eforce on lunala in teams similar to mine
devout mist
because go fucking figure psychic terrain and expanding force go hand in hand😭
ya that's the niche
charred saddle
so psyspam is a niche?
chrome knot
ITS NOT A NICHE!!!
zinc totem
so i dont know what you're on
charred saddle
what
chrome knot
psyspam is not a niche lmfao
devout mist
for you it isn't ok
next stump
Okay y’all this is starting to get pointless, it’s arguing with a brick wall
chrome knot
fuss but yes
next stump
Just move on to a new topic or back to the original question about After You being an issue
chrome knot
hai tofu
zinc totem
@chrome knot you cant reason person out of position they have reasoned themselves into
devout mist
a lot of players talk like they are pros xD
chrome knot
i need a third or here tofu im ngl
mighty stump
Good luck
devout mist
tofu nailed them down
mighty stump
You realise I ain’t on your side
zinc totem
a lot of players talk like they are pros xD
90% of people here actually are pros and experience more than you or me
devout mist
90% of people here actually are pros and experience more than you or me
I doubt
devout mist
Tofu is not playing any circuit
charred saddle
because we cant
chrome knot
bc tofu physically cant
mighty stump
Dillon:
Emma:
charred saddle
my man
mighty stump
Lol
A lot of players talk like pros when they can’t, a lot of people lack access cause of shit access and make the best results we can
devout mist
You guys better get back on topic, very toxic so far
zinc totem
Tofu is not playing any circuit
and to be pro playerr you dont need play in circuit but its how high you rank in ladder too
devout mist
and to be pro playerr you dont need play in circuit but its how high you rank in...
pro = professional
mighty stump
Bros running away
devout mist
if you don't play pro circuits
chrome knot
i play in the pro circuit
devout mist
then you're not pro
devout mist
yeah some of you are good players
mighty stump
Damn
zinc totem
pro = professional
then you're not pro at being electrician when you got skill and knowledge but you dont work as a job
devout mist
but I doubt everyone speaking so far is someone going in for pro
devout mist
then you're not pro at being electrician when you got skill and knowledge but y...
That is not coming accross how you think ja ja ja
charred saddle
dillon is going to worlds tho
zinc totem
but I doubt everyone speaking so far is someone going in for pro
these people are pro-level meaning they are pros
charred saddle
does that apply as ur criteria of "pro"
devout mist
not my criteria
charred saddle
thats a VERY high critteria
chrome knot
you have no criteria you already mentioned you are really new and your only experience is the meta and results
zinc totem
if you don't play pro circuits
it is your definition
devout mist
let's steer back discussion to competitive things
chrome knot
get off your nothing high chair and show respect for people trying to help others
devout mist
it is your definition
no, you want it to be, I learn fast.
chrome knot
like fucksake
devout mist
get off your nothing high chair and show respect for people trying to help other...
funnily you acted as a toxic elitist jerk with me
and sprung most of that bs
mighty stump
Let’s stop backseat advising in a place you have 0 standing in with regards to an area you have 0 qualifications in
zinc totem
no, you want it to be, I learn fast.
when you literally define that they're not pro beacuse they dont play in circuit, that is literally criteria for you to be pro is to be in championships or circuits
meaning it fits in your criteria
chrome knot
correcting you, as somebody whos heavily tested and played the archetype he is interested yes
devout mist
correcting you, as somebody whos heavily tested and played the archetype he is i...
nope
you corrected nothing
chrome knot
as i would know better than somebody who joined maybe an hour ago
zinc totem
and that archetype exists already in wider player base
forest arrow
devout mist
nothing you brought changed any concept I already knew
zinc totem
meaning it makes it not niche at that point
devout mist
so you stop being an elitist toxic jerk
charred saddle
so u never learned the concept of psyspam?
devout mist
and let the helper help
chrome knot
LOL
mighty stump
You ain’t even listening to the helper
devout mist
You ain’t even listening to the helper
I am, trust
but this emma being a jerk to me nah
charred saddle
u literally ignored dillons claim
mighty stump
<@&663761167176433665>
zinc totem
@mighty stump @chrome knot you cant reason person out of position they have reasoned themselves into.
chrome knot
good call tofu TBH
mighty stump
Blocked
zinc totem
he ios lost cause in his small world
chrome knot
<@250386799363489808> <@224303371564220418> you cant reason person out of positi...
yeah honestly lmao
chrome knot
just annoying people constantly
devout mist
Worst most fucking blatant random shitter I’ve met yet
haven't met yourself yet
chrome knot
you dont even wanna read how it started holy shit
devout mist
''helper'' not on the pro circuit
let the helper help, has no experience in any tournament
zinc totem
Worst most fucking blatant random shitter I’ve met yet
yeah. for me i might have similar arguments but when i do actual research and wwhat is said hear aligns, i actually learn more what i alreayd do
chrome knot
by LOCATION he physically cant
mighty stump
you dont even wanna read how it started holy shit
I didn’t need to if this is the fucking attitude
gentle cragBOT
🔇 Muted wittyremy for 1 hour
chrome knot
thx bae
forest arrow
Alright I’m back goodmorning friends lol
charred saddle
gm
rustic mountain
mighty stump
The most blatant disrespect I have seen towards the people who are respectable towards the game
zinc totem
there we go i got lunala and necrozma now fused
chrome knot
you came too late for that lol
mighty stump
Like you absolutely cannot disrespect good players who know better by being the most fuckwitted troll I have seen yet
rustic mountain
mighty stump
and expect me not to get upset
forest arrow
I joined and was like oh I’ll just hover until it blows over haha
charred saddle
makan indomie bang
zinc totem
ngl its kinda funny how some people are so donkey that they are type of "My opinion is right while more experienced people who actually are pros at game says otherwise"
chrome knot
@zinc totem so for some minor adjustments, indeedee wants to be a sash breaker so id go dazzling gleam > expanding so ur not walled by dark types & ndws moveset wants to be expanding force moongiest beam meteor beam & trick room
the whole gimmick of psyspam is you want as many people as possible to be able to set it up lmfao
mighty stump
ngl its kinda funny how some people are so donkey that they are type of "My opin...
Also I would say the only criteria for being pro players are like people who are endorsed/sponsored/paid make a living out of Pokemon
chrome knot
on many teams of that level its common to see 3 trick room setters
zinc totem
<@194845752709611520> so for some minor adjustments, indeedee wants to be a sash...
yeah my core is tailroom
mighty stump
But pro-level is a different matter
patent marsh
makan indomie bang
mighty stump
Man
zinc totem
But pro-level is a different matter
well its still used word pro for that aswell
chrome knot
im unsure ur tera but im sure ndw is already tera water
zinc totem
who are not in official tournaments or unable to be in those
zinc totem
im unsure ur tera but im sure ndw is already tera water
fairy was my lunala
mighty stump
I don’t get upset often but after a long day and then having to read garbage like that towards decent people
chrome knot
ohh noo change to water for ndw
zinc totem
oh yea any advice deal with spore spam amoonguses?
mighty stump
This just proves my point skills don’t make a good player, it’s all about attitude
zinc totem
another type that 70% of time beats my team
chrome knot
oh yea any advice deal with spore spam amoonguses?
KILL!
mighty stump
I’m genuinely upset
charred saddle
it moves before my pokemons too x_x so i can hit only one
generally dont set TR when theres amoonguss
chrome knot
i think vs teams that are more balancey with amoongus play tailwind mode and nuke it
charred saddle
plan it better
mighty stump
My highest recommendations is just to completely avoid engagement
violet parcel
please do try to appease the situation instead of adding fuel. it would help a lot. ty
zinc totem
i think vs teams that are more balancey with amoongus play tailwind mode and nuk...
so i fi see amoongus i use tailwind instead gotcha
charred saddle
ill try for the future
chrome knot
like ndw speed stat is flexible enough to play both for sure
mighty stump
please do try to appease the situation instead of adding fuel. it would help a l...
Sorry, It get’s difficult when it becomes a bit personal. Idc about me, I care about the others
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.1
zinc totem
and emma and tofu did try ease situation too
zinc totem
like ndw speed stat is flexible enough to play both for sure
yeah and normally they run trickroom themselves for that amongus
mighty stump
That was a tame version of me
zinc totem
so they dont even bring it out before tr is up
chrome knot
ive seen it a little but safety goggles indeedee is valid
zinc totem
like caly-ice or girafarig
chrome knot
tho psychic seed is a safety net vs knock off
charred saddle
i like seeds indeedee now, no knockoff extra damage is so nice
zinc totem
yeah i use rocky helmet due having seen so many physical mons that has multiattacks (rapid strike urshifu)
mighty stump
Ive seen Grass Tera. You still get chunked by U-Turn though
If you really want PsySeed
zinc totem
so follow me gives more of that safety for phys mons
zinc totem
in safety sense they think abit more that they dont just go rapid strike next turn but switch or forces them change move
bold geode
Wtf did I even miss tf
charred saddle
newcomer
bold geode
Also Leo
Why does Rilla learn Snarl
zinc totem
How did that person know I wasn’t even in the circuit
probably random guess beacuse people in discord doesnt go to those
charred saddle
so i assumed its an alt
bold geode
How did that person know I wasn’t even in the circuit
Bro had a leak smh
mighty stump
probably random guess beacuse people in discord doesnt go to those
I assumed it’s an alt
zinc totem
so it could also been banned person's alt
zinc totem
I assumed it’s an alt
it could be also an alt of person who got banned and is avoiding ban
mighty stump
I see
zinc totem
thats maybe more possible
mighty stump
Sigh
bold geode
Why is it that whenever I'm gone, the shitty people come out
zinc totem
Why is it that whenever I'm gone, the shitty people come out
that dude could be you
mighty stump
Okay
charred saddle
only 1 shit people everytime monke
mighty stump
Well anyways
zinc totem
charred saddle
so now itts you that we have to deal with
bold geode
that dude could be you
Nah I talk shit to Tofu without using alts
Fuck you Tofu (love you Tofu)
zinc totem
Nah I talk shit to Tofu without using alts
or maybe you wanted throw wrench in cog to see server in flames
mighty stump
Legitimately if people want to talk shit it needs to stop being behind an alt like wtf
chrome knot
i only shit talk tofus iron hands during our raid
mighty stump
And also tomorrow is my Region Rumble match
zinc totem
Legitimately if people want to talk shit it needs to stop being behind an alt li...
people are spineless
bold geode
i only shit talk tofus iron hands during our raid<a:NekoLaugh:673354487607459854...
But Belly Drum Iron Hands go brrrr
mighty stump
I have 0 prep cause I was too busy moving LOL
zinc totem
for me legimitately if you gonna give argument and that argument gets shot down with proof and experience of players, you stopo being stubborn and do more research
but beacuse you're not professional your knowledge is invalid arguments are sooo dumb
mighty stump
for me legimitately if you gonna give argument and that argument gets shot down ...
I do not care if people want to argue and if I’m wrong I just end up learning more but for the love of Christ people need to lose the ego
No fucker gives advice cares if you take it or not
patent marsh
@mighty stump 😭 based on individual performances in their ideal teams and damage calcs and their flaws taken into account, Encore would be lower but if you make her a full normal attack bot and ignore rest of her kit you just need 2 healers/buffers to keep her up
zinc totem
I do not care if people want to argue and if I’m wrong I just end up learning mo...
yeah but when his argument had no basis and basically shown that he dont know anything, he just still wanted argue
mighty stump
<@250386799363489808> 😭 based on individual performances in their ideal teams a...
Havoc Rover kinda based
zinc totem
thats what i was referring
zinc totem
<@250386799363489808> 😭 based on individual performances in their ideal teams a...
ditch genshin, come arknights
patent marsh
Havoc Rover kinda based
ye it's gud swap in
mighty stump
yeah but when his argument had no basis and basically shown that he dont know an...
Bro went for the ad hominem when he couldn’t strawman
patent marsh
ditch genshin, come arknights
already ditched both of those
Arknights I can say is one of the few gachas I played longer though
bold geode
Bro went for the ad hominem when he couldn’t strawman
What
mighty stump
I’m convinced everything is a character attack to people more dumb when it comes from people who know better
zinc totem
Arknights I can say is one of the few gachas I played longer though
i still play it after 5 years
actual f2p friendly gacha
patent marsh
yea I only quit arknights cause friends and myself slowly lost interest to keep going
zinc totem
yea I only quit arknights cause friends and myself slowly lost interest to keep ...
shame. its going so strong with lots good content
patent marsh
Sanrio collab 
zinc totem
I’m convinced everything is a character attack to people more dumb when it comes...
yeah. I kinda saw my past self in early 20s in him
zinc totem
im convinced that people who argues something and is "meta" and "results" or something similar or like "this is used here and there not this" sees world from small lens that only players who are in worlds or in circuits or official tournaments are only valid people whose opinions matters
charred saddle
<@250386799363489808> 😭 based on individual performances in their ideal teams a...
encore is nice tho 
patent marsh
@mighty stump my yinlin rn crit dmg electro electro atk atk
charred saddle
my encore hitts 28k charge + 3k per ttic with tthe gimmick thing
patent marsh
encore is nice tho <:bruh:1161176614944649236>
she plays like ass if you don't NA bot
charred saddle
just play better
dull ibex
<@250386799363489808> my yinlin rn crit dmg electro electro atk atk
what game is this btw
patent marsh
no like
charred saddle
i just recently learned that i can parry witth encores jump attack
patent marsh
it's just bad for her damage
charred saddle
so itts getting better
patent marsh
what game is this btw
wuthering waves
dull ibex
interestin
patent marsh
though Imma drop the game upon 1.1's update
zinc totem
@chrome knot what was the move set for necrozma dawn wing again?
chrome knot
eforce
moongeist beam
meteor beam
trick room
zinc totem
does my lunala still keep its set even if fused with necro?
patent marsh
just of it like this
patent marsh
think of the item that fuses them as an item that holds their respective data
zinc totem
nvm i got one in my tm pcoket
chrome knot
oh omfg im sorry i spread misinformation
zinc totem
eforce
moongeist beam
meteor beam
trick room
so how im gonna deal with pokemons like terapagos now that wide guard no longer option?
chrome knot
that only applies when unfusing oops
chrome knot
so how im gonna deal with pokemons like terapagos now that wide guard no longer ...
play better im ngl like if you get it in tr you win
zinc totem
that only applies when unfusing oops
i guessed that afdter lil bit thinking
zinc totem
play better im ngl like if you get it in tr you win
yeah and i think messed up a bit on my evs for the other mons
i gave urshifu SS hypertrained speed so that might been mistake
while max speed and max attack evs
same with bloodmoon ursaluna
zinc totem
cuz i think few days ago they said i should do it for my tailroom core
made by dillon no less @chrome knot
mighty stump
yeah. I kinda saw my past self in early 20s in him <:LUL:574672073797009408>
Its like rote learning
Failure to understand and apply the basics of the knowledge
zinc totem
Failure to understand and apply the basics of the knowledge
hah yeah. it took mecouple years learn more flexible ways
craggy dagger
hm?
zinc totem
i was age 23 or 24 i started have more understanding and apply stuff more generally in knowledges
oh yeah i wonder if i should give indeedee EP too 
i gave indeedee psychic to help finish off some pokemons and poison type pokemons
charred saddle
idk how i feel bout that
it can run 1 move but it rarely uses EP
wait did u mean eforce or earthpower
zinc totem
yeah i gave it psychic not to get rekt by taunt
charred saddle
if u meant earth power no
zinc totem
wait did u mean eforce or earthpower
eforce
zinc totem
i always forget its force not power
@chrome knot what should i fix on my indeedee move set?
charred saddle
eforce
whats the moveset currently?
followme, TR, Helping hand is like 3 very very common ones
zinc totem
whats the moveset currently?
trick room psychic follow helpingn hand yeah
chrome knot
<@224303371564220418> what should i fix on my indeedee move set?
dazzling gleam
follow me
helping hand
trick room
charred saddle
yeah id like gleam more
chrome knot
yeah
charred saddle
it can also run fairy tera
not for the damage aspect but like it covers well with its weaknesses
dark and fighting resist
zinc totem
my terapokemons were lunala with fairy and bloodmoon with normal and fighting on urshifu
charred saddle
and fairy in general is good defensive typing
zinc totem
but now i switch it to water for dawn wing necrozma
zinc totem
and fairy in general is good defensive typing
reason why lunala had it
chrome knot
keep ursh dark
zinc totem
ursh was fighting without changing
chrome knot
max bonk wicked blow damage
zinc totem
cuz CC
charred saddle
i only ever played balance lunala so, it needs fairy
MB, CM, moongeist, protect
chrome knot
no dont
zinc totem
yeah this is why i run necrozma now water
chrome knot
tera dark wicked blow > bc you negate ur intim drops with always crit
zinc totem
tho i would love explanation why water
chrome knot
defensive monster
zinc totem
wouldnt then fairy or something work better or what water does defensively?
craggy dagger
what the hell
wym?
is somethnig wrong-?
charred saddle
ndw reduces SEdmg
zinc totem
what is SE?
charred saddle
and water has lots of resists for common moves like steel fire water
super effective
zinc totem
aaah i see
chrome knot
and water has lots of resists for common moves like steel fire water
i c e
zinc totem
well chiyu wont be doing much now
charred saddle
fairy is neutral to most stuff so it closes outt the ability
zinc totem
i relied on wideguard for snarl/heat wave chiyus a loty
nocturne holly
Anyone have an av bolt spread?
zinc totem
Anyone have an av bolt spread?
according pikalytics its Modest 196/0/132/100/68/12
unsure tho
but i think its safer do 252/0/4/0/252/0
nocturne holly
I don’t like pikalytics spread bcuz idk what they’re calced for
av also usually has bulk
zinc totem
they're usage statistics
which is why most used is 68 spd
but im sad my 20 wins 10 losses is now 20 win 20 loss
was doing so good till i met gimmicks
shrewd scarab
VGC do be like that
zinc totem
shelter goodras, after you clefairys and such
oh i didnt know follow me interrupts phantom force
thats funny
next stump
shelter goodra and after you clefairy aren’t gimmicks though, they’re pretty meta moves on both of those pokemon. If you write off losses to those pokemon as gimmicks it’ll stunt your growth as a player
because (at least with clefairy) you will continue to see it for the next 2.5 months
zinc totem
shelter goodra and after you clefairy aren’t gimmicks though, they’re pretty met...
wait hisui goodra shellter is actually meta?
timber falcon
for that specific mon
next stump
shelter on goodra is common, but goodra is not common
if you ever see goodra, immediately expect shelter or iron defense
zinc totem
the dude had hisui goodra with shellter, chiyu, grimmsnarl and tornadus
zinc totem
i was thinking building team with hisui goodra one time
but i was "meta is mostly legendaries and with certain ones it feels meh"
timber falcon
for this reg you should start on the restrcited anyway
timber falcon
NDW?
balmy glen
a top tier friend of mine was using a csr hoodra team it’s not bad ig
zinc totem
necrosma dawn wing
timber falcon
ah ok
mighty stump
a top tier friend of mine was using a csr hoodra team it’s not bad ig
Budget CSR Zama prep
zinc totem
i just love design of both
timber falcon
a top tier friend of mine was using a csr hoodra team it’s not bad ig
oh thats an interesting combo
zinc totem
i wish i had pro friend who would help me build abit more team towards me haha
also wow i met actual trickroom team
i would've been cooked if i didnt have tr on NDW
forest arrow
Ive seen CSR/Kommo-o stuff too
zinc totem
girafarig slowbro ursaluna tornadus and ghost tree one
timber falcon
what-
forest arrow
not hoodra but same IDBP concept
zinc totem
that was interesting matchup
timber falcon
trevenant???
mighty stump
Ive seen CSR/Kommo-o stuff too
Yeah Monke saw that and tried to build it, same concept. I'm just eh about it
zinc totem
trevenant imprison shadow force
timber falcon
lmfao
zinc totem
ngl if the person let me do trickroom instead of imprisoning
he had better chanse win
oh yea also origin palkia shiny
dull ibex
what is the idea with csr and hoodra
balmy glen
i wish i had pro friend who would help me build abit more team towards me haha
Tbh a lot of the pros kinda just build on our own then meet up later and just be like “yes haha that’s funny and good”
mighty stump
Budget CSR and Zama
dull ibex
i see
mighty stump
Basically it's ideal complimentary
forest arrow
ghost type walls hoodra(budget zama) csr cleans up
balmy glen
If only Hoodra had wide guard
mighty stump
Wide Guard access also helps the mirror if necessary
And Snarl
So those chi-yus cna suck it
dull ibex
should i be trying csr and zama?
balmy glen
I was using Thunder wave archaludon in bo1 so free
mighty stump
Well you can't, cause it's not double restricted
zinc totem
Tbh a lot of the pros kinda just build on our own then meet up later and just be...
haha yeah. its more find abit more like mmaking abit route middle of jungle how its done then giving me machete to finish it
forest arrow
Nah Mira/CIR
dull ibex
Well you can't, cause it's not double restricted
mmm right
forest arrow
Twave Achaludon? 
mighty stump
TWave goated
dull ibex
its vgc time
forest arrow
yeah for sure just never expected on Arch haha
balmy glen
Twave Achaludon? <:PikaLmao:678990785500413962>
It can’t be redirected
forest arrow
oh true stalwart
zinc totem
lmao how tailwind adamant urshifu is faster than swift swim kingdra
timber falcon
shifu just naturally faster base speed too
mighty stump
Kingdra can still outspeed Adamant if it was Timid
mighty stump
Well it's a SpAtker
zinc totem
i mean waterfall kingdra is also a thing no?
zinc totem
i see i see
timber falcon
but it does get dragon dance
zinc totem
i hate muddy water ngl, in one battle it lost me game cuz i missed wicked blow
also im in my 30s and it childish but would be fun have mentor who is pro
mighty stump
I've coached people older than me before and I'm pretty sure I advise people older than me all the time
That;s also probably the general age group of competitive Pokemon players
zinc totem
haha would be fun to be coached by you @mighty stump
dull ibex
mighty stump
I like to think from feedback at least people have found a session with me useful
dull ibex
I concur with that feedback
mighty stump
I don't really have the time at the moment
forest arrow
Although never been in a session of coaching with Tofu, I can vouch that Im a much better player from advice
nocturne holly
https://pokepast.es/3a520fe49ee8cbea thoughts? I’m probably gonna switch bolt for a an av set
zinc totem
what uses stellar tera has in pvp?
mighty stump
what uses stellar tera has in pvp?
It's a purely aggressive tera
zinc totem
I like to think from feedback at least people have found a session with me usefu...
as long as its free ones, i defo would love few
zinc totem
It's a purely aggressive tera
yeah i lost to stellar tera lucario vcuz i got t-waved by meowstic M
mighty stump
Well once I have more time I do everything here for free lol
next stump
https://pokepast.es/3a520fe49ee8cbea thoughts? I’m probably gonna switch bolt fo...
you really want max SPE on Urshifu
timber falcon
you guys think spatck ray can work?
next stump
otherwise you don’t outspeed CSR guaranteed
nocturne holly
Even with scarf?
next stump
Yep, you need 252 Adamant to outspeed
mighty stump
you guys think spatck ray can work?
DAscent is far too good to give up lol
timber falcon
physical it is
dull ibex
tofu taught me everything I know, like how to click sleep powder into a grass type
next stump
You can just run 4HP with your current stat spread and that should work
nocturne holly
Yea it does
timber falcon
do i gain value from wheezing rayquaza? maybe cancel intimidate?
timber falcon
hm
mighty stump
Like
foggy lodge
do i gain value from wheezing rayquaza? maybe cancel intimidate?
Just use CA SD
balmy glen
@next stump do yk what restricted your running at worlds
mighty stump
NGas cancels Weather the same how Air Lock would, so it feels redundant, and you can just ClearAm
next stump
probably Kyogre or CIR
timber falcon
Just use CA SD
the point is id be able to use a different item that CA
next stump
but we’ll see what does well online and what clicks
balmy glen
gotcha
timber falcon
but im not seeing any other way it benefits in the current meta so im dropping the idea
balmy glen
yeah ill just be spamming the same team and just have more games than everyone now
zinc totem
what item lowers the speed of pokemon ? these are interesting ones
balmy glen
except for OPL ill change it up
timber falcon
what item lowers the speed of pokemon ? these are interesting ones
room service lowers speed in tr
next stump
that’s gonna be the best approach tbh, especially for people like us at our first worlds
mighty stump
Iron Ball/Power Items/Room Service
next stump
just go ultra comfort
zinc totem
room service lowers speed in tr
never heard of that before
balmy glen
ye I already have 200 bo3s on the team so far while taking good breaks to keep it relaxing
been making a lot of minor adjustments though
timber falcon
ok so im stumped with rayquaza speed evs
foggy lodge
Idk if anyone already shared it here but https://youtu.be/Aw4DJBdV4C0?si=Aar_sSbJ6x0QjnT7
zinc totem
room service pelipper screwd me over hard
balmy glen
omg im in a wolfey video
zinc totem
omg im in a wolfey video
more often than expect
he actually whenm talks about tournaments or something, he meets you
balmy glen
sorry i cant understand what u just said 😭
timber falcon
yeha i think rayquaza just gonna be max max adamant for me
mighty stump
L
balmy glen
he actually whenm talks about tournaments or something, he meets you <:LUL:57467...
can u rephrase this
zinc totem
can u rephrase this
was actually write "Let me rephrase": When wolfey talks about some of pokemon tournaments he joins, he mentions you in some of those videos if you've been there
balmy glen
oh gotcha
zinc totem
and meets you in those instances
balmy glen
I mean i've fought him twice now
timber falcon
what if i dont run cleat am ray
balmy glen
we gotta settle our 1-1 score at worlds (real)
zinc totem
we gotta settle our 1-1 score at worlds (real)
haha. Wolfey was one of people got me considere getting violet cuz i do love ranked competitive plays
mighty stump
1-2
timber falcon
we gotta settle our 1-1 score at worlds (real)
craggy dagger
https://pokepast.es/3a520fe49ee8cbea thoughts? I’m probably gonna switch bolt fo...
dragon crowned?
zinc totem
https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-vs-gojo-gif-5354202084278658049
question is who is sukuna and who is the Gojo ||that dies||
timber falcon
exactly
mighty stump
online tours im guessing rather than regionals right
Not even, I ran into him on the ladder in-game while he was streaming or something and I won cause I got lucky
LOL
balmy glen
LMAO
mighty stump
He missed a Wisp which mattered hard later into the game
craggy dagger
ik that dragon is good to resist fwg and whatnot but in a dragon/iceheavy format i wouldnt-
hm...
mighty stump
Cause of the chip woujld have put me into range
balmy glen
he's really nice he said hes scared of facing aurelian,myself, and one other I forgot cuz we're like the young upcomers
mighty stump
Huge compliment
zinc totem
he's really nice he said hes scared of facing aurelian,myself, and one other I f...
okay that is HUGE beacuse he wont say it about just anybody
balmy glen
aurlien is scarier tho for sure cuz hes been playing longer
I gotta lock in and catch up to him
zinc totem
i've never ben brave enough for competitive otuside tournaments in my country time to time
balmy glen
thing that aurelian and i both have is very supportive moms I realized that helped us a lot lol
mighty stump
Mine would have whooped my ass if I said I wnted to play Pokemon as a hobby
So now I'm a doctor
zinc totem
Wish I had tours
hasvent checking much of tyournaments in my country lately but yeah
balmy glen
tbh I did make a lot of money from pubg so it makes more sense in my families pov but like aurelians mom is a vibe
timber falcon
uh any relevant steel types in the meta i gotta account for?
balmy glen
meeting international players is definitely my favorite part of the ics
balmy glen
uh any relevant steel types in the meta i gotta account for?
just gholdengo and zama tbh
timber falcon
oh shit yeah
balmy glen
zacian too ig
zinc totem
oh wow okay knock off klills necrozma instantly from rilla
timber falcon
aight thanks ill try get a mon that can cover for those MUS
nocturne holly
Anyone have an av bolt spread? 🙏
zinc totem
oh wow okay knock off klills necrozma instantly from rilla
dont forget goodra hisui
zinc totem
TR bloodmoon ursaluna
timber falcon
wait a sec
zinc totem
earth powerr hurts them
timber falcon
they hate gholdengo
timber falcon
earth powerr hurts them
cant zama OHKO outside though
balmy glen
chandelure
timber falcon
and normally run tera grass
timber falcon
chandelure
:0
zinc totem
cant zama OHKO outside though
thats why you run protect
timber falcon
oh thats interesting
timber falcon
thats why you run protect
not very consistent answer though, considering im not running tr-
timber falcon
i havent decided on whoch form of speed control yet, also it remains an inconsitent answer
zinc totem
ngl restricting to 1 restricted pokemon is more balanced fun
timber falcon
i think i like twave
balmy glen
ngl restricting to 1 restricted pokemon is more balanced fun
its fun until u show up to a tournament and face only your counter which u cant do anything abt xd
timber falcon
i cant decide weather gholdengo or chandelure helps me more
mighty stump
Just dodge the matchup
balmy glen
i cant decide weather gholdengo or chandelure helps me more
Lemme see the team
balmy glen
Just dodge the matchup
U don’t know the legend of my bad luck do ya
timber falcon
its just gambit rayquaza rn lol
mighty stump
I don't wanna talk about bad luck
balmy glen
I can’t even dodge fissures let alone matchups
timber falcon
cant have bad luck if you dont think about it
mighty stump
That doesn't cancel out bad luck
balmy glen
^
balmy glen
I got quad crit by mott to get eliminated from LA xd
balmy glen
Whats in your opinion the most aggro team atm
hmm most ho ya say
mighty stump
Like
Yeah you could say that
I don't mind if it still has holes in its matchup roulette either
balmy glen
tyos Zacian team xd
mighty stump
Send paste, is it public
timber falcon
i think ive forgotten how to team build
zinc totem
its fun until u show up to a tournament and face only your counter which u cant ...
haha that is why i think team composition is best
balmy glen
Send paste, is it public
https://pokepast.es/dbdf33d695435838 i changed something but forgot what lol...
zinc totem
brb supper
mighty stump
In case it isn't obvious I see a line to shove Snorlax in a team as long as it's aggressive enough
mighty stump
https://pokepast.es/bfc2dbe4a8d7636f This was what I had to get to t20
balmy glen
I slap my volcarona with anything like its rice
mighty stump
We love rice
balmy glen
yup
timber falcon
can you eat rice with ketchup
zinc totem
i just wish i could somehow integrate my lucario in
timber falcon
oh u can
zinc totem
but lucario base stats makes it so unusable 
only reason how i made lucario work few times was calyrex-ice teams
where its niche is beat ice and flutter manes
haha
mighty stump
Just saying
timber falcon
it beats flutter?
mighty stump
Lucario can help you against Incin stuff lol
zinc totem
it beats flutter?
meteor smash
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.1
mighty stump
Who cares
timber falcon
meteor smash
u forget the other mon is faster-
mighty stump
Inner Focus is nice
zinc totem
u forget the other mon is faster-
tr/tailwind
mighty stump
Oh thats the new Lax set
balmy glen
Honestly atp if your not prepping for worlds just slap anything for fun lol
mighty stump
It should be the old one
mighty stump
Not really
zinc totem
competitively*
mighty stump
Like Keanu said
timber falcon
Honestly atp if your not prepping for worlds just slap anything for fun lol
wait does the format change after or smth?
mighty stump
I just take my ladder shit more seriously than the average joe cause it's all I have at the moment
zinc totem
Honestly atp if your not prepping for worlds just slap anything for fun lol
to get worlds, i need beat europe competition fiurst
mighty stump
and I need it for content
zinc totem
haha
mighty stump
Plus I like to think good habits build a good player
timber falcon
when is it double restricted?
strange fjord
when is it double restricted?
post worlds, but we dont know when exactly
balmy glen
is this bo1
strange fjord
probably
timber falcon
yeah it is
balmy glen
roaring moon is usually a 2-2-2 tw setter plus typing with less fairies is generally good
strange fjord
any idea what roaring moon does here exactly???
that reminds me, i gotta update munchteams rn lol
timber falcon
oh lol, i just pressed ur pfp and never saw the site b4 so had a look
timber falcon
roaring moon is usually a 2-2-2 tw setter plus typing with less fairies is gener...
i see, so it can potentially be a csr answer with iron head???
whilst setting tw
balmy glen
that reminds me, i gotta update munchteams rn lol
wait ur the munchstats creator?
strange fjord
oh lol, i just pressed ur pfp and never saw the site b4 so had a look
so there might be more replays you can go through
balmy glen
i see, so it can potentially be a csr answer with iron head???
yup usually on 2-2-2, can set tw, forces a 50/50 wiith csr cuz they have to tera to not die to knock off and can get flinched/dealt lots of dmg with iron head
mighty stump
Pizza and me influenced the Munchlax line statistics so heavily cause the sample size was tiny
balmy glen
Do you just rewatch the stream replays?
strange fjord
Coolio I use your site a lot
nice, happy to see a top 8 regional player use my site 
glossy mirage
how do yall enter tournaments ? is it like a server ?
balmy glen
how do yall enter tournaments ? is it like a server ?
like online tournaments or in person
glossy mirage
online cuz i’m new
mighty stump
Use Limitless
balmy glen
online cuz i’m new
gotcha, usually limitless ye
glossy mirage
thankyou
balmy glen
man I cant believe I have to run lines for sub protect cm terapagos
mighty stump
lol
glossy mirage
can i use rentals in online or no ?
mighty stump
Yeah
glossy mirage
thankyou
zinc totem
can i use rentals in online or no ?
yes. there is third option rental teams and u check code for that team then write code in and u have it
took me abit be like "what rental teams? like do i need send pokemons as collateral and i get send the pokemons for team or wut?"
glossy mirage
i can use them in tournaments right now?
bold geode
man I cant believe I have to run lines for sub protect cm terapagos
You seen that one too?
I saw it and was just like ew
mild wolf
Does anyone have a build Mimikyu for a trick room setter?
nocturne holly
https://pokepast.es/7911ea6193aa430c would rilla over amoonguss on this be ok??
i just want that rilla damage
i also get terrain healing
+more fo
zinc totem
okay i found my team biggest weakness
chi-yu and groudon lead with preciple blades and snarl
now i wish i had wide guard 🤣
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/7911ea6193aa430c would rilla over amoonguss on this be ok??
Rilla incin shifu is very strong rn so I’d say yea
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.1
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/6969018bd0c741e4 thoughts on this guys?
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.1
nocturne holly
what tera for zacian
molten oasis
miraidon is such an annoying mu
zac beats miraidon
without tera ground blast
rilla now especially help you with that mu
CIR teams dont seem to like goggles taunt urshifus lol
daring pumice
banded espeed next to cheinpao🫡
torn parrot
When does reg G end
strange fjord
Alright, which restricted is winning worlds?
autumn vault
One of the calyrexs, Pagos, Miraidon, Zamazenta, Koraidon and Kyogre are possible candidates
molten oasis
Alright, which restricted is winning worlds?
CSR CIR or Pagos
strange fjord
My bet is gonna be CIR
next stump
CIR and it’ll be me
autumn vault
My predictions will be CSR, CIR, Pagos, Miraidon, Zamazenta or Kyogre
Most likely not Kyogre
molten oasis
My predictions will be CSR, CIR, Pagos, Miraidon, Zamazenta or Kyogre
pick 3
you just picked the used restricteds
autumn vault
If it had to be 3 then go with the first 3 i addressed
bold geode
I actually am gonna do a blogpost covering events and I'm gonna do a top 5 prediction at the end
(it's gonna be basic AF lol)
balmy glen
You seen that one too?
It’s pretty easy to beat if your anything other than csr tbh
bold geode
It’s pretty easy to beat if your anything other than csr tbh
Yeah lmao
It's just a bit more annoying is all
willow vault
Alright, which restricted is winning worlds?
I’m gonna say shadow rider
nocturne holly
What mons is miraidon good with?
molten oasis
What mons is miraidon good with?
whims bloodmoon fari hands
slender sentinel
Hi, so recently i have been really wanting to get into competitive and dont really know where to start. I feel like singles would be easy for me to understand so i think i would like to start out there. I dont have a team yet, so im wondering if i should try to build my own or use an already popular one to get started. Any suggestions?
next stump
Hello 🙂
Most people in this chat tend to focus on doubles (since it’s the official competitive mode for tournaments, otherwise known as VGC) but there are some singles players here. I’d recommend looking on YouTube for videos of people playing Battle Stadium Singles, the name of the format you’re looking for
In general though, building your own team is not really recommended until you have a grasp on the basics
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.1
nocturne holly
Hello 🙂
Most people in this chat tend to focus on doubles (since it’s the offi...
dillon do you think mirai+lando i could work as like a faster bm ursa
next stump
I think it’s worth testing
I think part of the charm of Ursa is that you can play towards TR with Farig/Hands/Ursa but Lando being faster than a chunk of the meta can be beneficial
bold geode
I’m gonna say shadow rider
Oh you're here again
slender sentinel
does lucario work better with a physical or special attack build?
polar canyon
does lucario work better with a physical or special attack build?
While you shouldn't usually use lucario, if you do you probably should use physical
One thing I can maybe see it doing is the tera normal espeed gimmick
Like a bad entei/dragonite/rayquaza
craggy dagger
polar canyon
Hi
I wonder what physical hit I should calc for with alomomola
It does live grassy glide from rilla and horn leech from adamant ogerpon
craggy dagger
why-?
polar canyon
Because I wanna try using it
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.1
polar canyon
It can live a max modest booster energy thunderclap at 68 hp 204+ spdef
craggy dagger
hm
polar canyon
I thought it looked interesting with wide guard and regenerator + flip turn + 165 base hp wish
craggy dagger
well wouldn’t most live a se tclap (that’s meta relevant rn) with that investment?
polar canyon
Well yeah
Like
That's the point
I'm not stating it trying to make it impressive
Just saying a calc for stats I wanna use
craggy dagger
hm
try calcing wood hammer, wild charge i think-
That would be a good start-
to calc higher bp first
polar canyon
Fair
I don't think it's taking any grassy terrain wood hammers with a reasonable amount of investment
craggy dagger
yeah
craggy dagger
if anything try calcing some lower stuff as well-
play rough zac, standard pao set, etc etc
polar canyon
+1 252 Atk Sword of Ruin Zacian-Crowned Play Rough vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Alomomola: 204-241 (85 - 100.4%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
Not sure if I have to worry about this one
I could try to get a 3hko with leftovers when no sword of ruin or something
It could be tera ghost for fake out and live a specs psychic from calyrex
Maybe that's interesting?
bold geode
try calcing wood hammer, wild charge i think-
That would be a good start-
to cal...
😱
Bestie blue
Wha happen
polar canyon
I knew something was off
craggy dagger
left the server for a break-
looks like that didnt go well
bold geode
Oh
I sorry
mighty stump
Morning all
bold geode
Morning all
Morning
Say what time is it for you now
polar canyon
Dang
forest arrow
good morning papa
craggy dagger
gm tofu
bold geode
Ok so you are hmmm
polar canyon
12 hours apart is crazy
mighty stump
Im whatever time difference we had +1
polar canyon
Is it ahead or behind I never know
mighty stump
Ahead cause of dates
bold geode
Ahead for me
bold geode
Tofu's in the future
Tofu why didn't you tell me today was gonna be bad at work
bold geode
Tofu probably just wanted to watch me suffer tbh
mighty stump
If I could see the future I wouldn't be telling anyone
bold geode
Wow
mighty stump
If I had powers I wouldn't tell anyone.
polar canyon
The cia would capture you to research your dissecated brain
polar canyon
You'd think the beast is some kinda monkey
mighty stump
How Monke felt:
bold geode
Lmao
polar canyon
That's the beast inside of him
bold geode
Trying
This fucking dog taking forever to pee though
Just now did it after like 7 minutes lmao
forest arrow
lol gl lmk
mighty stump
So
Ig im not playing my Region Rumble match
Idk where my opponent is and its way past out scheduled time
And I got life things to attend to
polar canyon
I mean to me it depends on what I'm fighting for
If it's for fun yeah that's lame
If there's any reward involved yeah that's one hurdle skipped
mighty stump
Well it's a team event
polar canyon
I want to win in life without a fight tbh
Waiting for some old uncle to reveal he's a millionaire and I'm his closest relative and will inherit his fortune
mighty stump
That's different though
I don't gain anything personally out of this
Like playing the game is the point of it
polar canyon
Welp sucks you had to wake up early for nothing
mighty stump
it do
polar canyon
There's gonna be more for fun tourneys ig
mighty stump
i had to anyways
I mean
Region Rumble is going on for like
Another 4+ weeks
Lol
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.1
craggy dagger
😱
Bestie blue
oh i never asked-
hows bestie doing-
molten oasis
huh?
bold geode
oh i never asked-
hows bestie doing-
I good
Hru
craggy dagger
managing :T
Uni prep is ass
molten oasis
i see no difference atm but its probably better
craggy dagger
name went from uh-
standard to fancy-
though i think im staying blue for a while
molten oasis
name went from uh-
standard to fancy-
though i think im staying blue for a while
You left?
Why is that?
craggy dagger
<:RobinGiggle:1222952563566055617>
left the server for a break-
looks like that...
^^
strange fjord
name went from uh-
standard to fancy-
though i think im staying blue for a while
You have been promoted customer type beat
craggy dagger
oh hai
balmy glen
Playing Fortnite with Riley is something I never thought I’d say I’m doing
The real worlds practice
strange fjord
Ur roles recovered
Aw hell nah, they used an XL Exp candy for sure
craggy dagger
Ur roles recovered
nocturne holly
https://pokepast.es/fbf8816b9fa07a10
https://pokepast.es/df3f24792669b592
Which of these two teams do you guys think looks better
bold geode
Playing Fortnite with Riley is something I never thought I’d say I’m doing
Is he cracked?
charred saddle
just too used with whim miraidon so
and honestly
dont think u need iron hands there
idk might be great bbut like parting shot incin might help out more especially with miraidon not being able to protect
not really experienced on this,
but i think its very similar to rajans regional winning team so
balmy glen
Is he cracked?
World may never know
Now I have James Evans and Riley playing Fortnite
bold geode
Lol
balmy glen
Most random interaction
nocturne holly
idk might be great bbut like parting shot incin might help out more especially w...
Yea I was also thinking of incin over hands
agile urchin
yall fw dialga
dense anchor
torn tera type?
agile urchin
torn tera type?
dark or ghost is what I usually see
dense anchor
ok ty
charred saddle
dark ghost, for more like of a niche ones, dark for taunt, ghost for FO
but if ur looking for defensive tera, like i think theres a use for rocky helmet bulky torn spread it can run steel
craggy dagger
steel is what i tend to use along with ghost
warm vigil
Would anyone who knows a bit of comp theory be willing to take a look at my draft league team and do a sanity check?
I don't need in depth advice or anything
lethal zinc
steel is what i tend to use along with ghost
Good to see you back, proud of you for taking a break.
craggy dagger
Good to see you back, proud of you for taking a break.
amonnnn
hiii it’s good to be back :3
even though i think it was only a day 
lethal zinc
A break is still a break.
bold geode
craggy dagger
break my back
charred saddle
smelly
craggy dagger
so r u son-
go take a shower
charred saddle
damn
molten oasis
Damn gottem
bold geode
Welp 3-3 drop
All cuz Snarl missed
strange fjord
Welp 3-3 drop
All cuz Snarl missed
snarl missing is like rolling a NAT 1
sad but it happens
bold geode
Well they had Caly S and Wellspring Ogerpon in the game right (with Chi Yu and Urshifu Rapid Strike) and like
I was basically stuck in Snarl spam unless
Yeah Throat Chop don't look to have been in range until the turn where Snarl missed
So I was basically stuck in Snarl spam cuz like
Otherwise I'm playing a mindgame of when Oger will redirect and like usually that ain't so bad, but they were so fuckin sporadic with it that I basically couldn't tell at all when they would and wouldn't
Like I was making decent reads the whole tour
But I couldn't read them at all cuz they kept doing shit that didn't make sense
T1 swapped out Caly to Urshifu, which died to a Grassy Glide that I figured was obvious AF
Then they NEVER tera'd Caly S in front of Ting Lu (I know Snarl Ting Lu don't do much, but it was Sash Caly so like I'd still be scared a bit) and they just were doing whatever tf with Oger
Like I basically tried changing up shit, going from Wide Guarding to just Helping Hand Snarling or even went for Helping Hand Heavy Slam on a turn they should've follow Med but I predicted they wouldn't and they didn't redirect
Just like nothing made sense
mighty stump
Probably just don’t think about it then review it again like in 1-2 days time with a different perspective
bold geode
Probably just don’t think about it then review it again like in 1-2 days time wi...
I mean tbf it wasn't like
I actually played fairly good so
First loss was a one turn misplay
Second loss I brought a wrong Mon but was still close AF
Third loss just needed the Snarl to connect tbh
That vs my wins which were pretty clean