does it get-
#competitive_discussion
craggy dagger
molten oasis
no why tantrum on the guy who already hits fire for SE
chrome knot
molten oasis
yes it gets tantrum, sorry if that seemed aggressive im ticked off
dont love running into every bad mu for ladder today
craggy dagger
no why tantrum on the guy who already hits fire for SE
steel types but no you’re right-
chrome knot
yknow who else gets stomping tantrum
molten oasis
yknow who else gets stomping tantrum
your mom
chrome knot
amoonguss
molten oasis
oh it does?
chrome knot
however good comms my mom does having a stomping tantrum whenever I try to be openly trans
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.1
molten oasis
lmfao why
chrome knot
have you ever seen a mushroom have a stomping tantrum?
molten oasis
however good comms my mom does having a stomping tantrum whenever I try to be op...
i have not
autumn vault
have you ever seen a mushroom have a stomping tantrum?
Never in my life
molten oasis
idt they can stomp-
autumn vault
They don't even have legs ofc they can't
molten oasis
amoonguss probably gets a tantrum when it cant click spore
autumn vault
Thats true though
molten oasis
feint smeargle
timber falcon
LMAO
molten oasis
my outs are lost because of people running fucking feint smeargle
timber falcon
i mean its a completely reasonable idea tbh
autumn vault
Not so much buddy
timber falcon
in CTS
autumn vault
https://tenor.com/view/fuck-this-everything-upset-gif-5544878
You rn
molten oasis
uhm, yea
im probably taking abreak after this, im well aware i could have been playing much better
autumn vault
Hopefully the break goes well
molten oasis
i am still furstrated my laddering the past few days has been tr sun teams and losing to people getting all their outs
good, forfeit in the face of pelipper
chrome knot
molten oasis
ok, back to 1500's, again, break time, again
craggy dagger
molten oasis
Bo1 is kicking my ass this week
Just keep running into weird stuff and poor mu’s, like
I just want to get this concept into 1600 before testing the team for reals in bo3
craggy dagger
i gave up on Bo1 a long time ago after being hardstuck in 1100s
now trying to climb Bo3 with a proper team-
molten oasis
Fair
I should probably play bo3 for general testing lol
Would help learn mu’s better
spiral ridge
mhm!
i’ve learned quite a bit in Bo3
When are we Bo3 again 
craggy dagger
i mean niche works if the rest of the team actually functions and it’s not just random bs thrown together
foggy lodge
I was playing the ladder in SV and someone was using tera grass tera blast flutter
Just use energy ball please bruh
molten oasis
and how-
my niche teams are absolute garbage
Hate to say it but true
craggy dagger
realistically i should have incin on this team but like
craggy dagger
Hate to say it but **true**
willow vault
Maybe
foggy lodge
realistically i should have incin on this team but like
https://pokepast.es/566...
I think it's fine without Inci
craggy dagger
i know i’ll make some weird ass teams but like-
i think i’m gonna tone down the weird team building and turn towards making some weird sets instead
craggy dagger
mhm!
willow vault
So I can use heatran by your definition
molten oasis
Onto bo3 ladder unless someone interested in a bo3 (after I play this bo3 match)
craggy dagger
i’d be down-
just gotta get home first
craggy dagger
So I can use heatran by your definition
yeah
willow vault
Onto bo3 ladder unless someone interested in a bo3 (after I play this bo3 match)
I haven’t played comp in a while so it wouldn’t be useful for you
craggy dagger
it’s not in the best place rn but heatran can be useable
molten oasis
I haven’t played comp in a while so it wouldn’t be useful for you
its for fun
i dont need to take anything away from the game
willow vault
I can play then
molten oasis
protect spam, yay
great, my opponent just spams protect all game and i lose for it cuz i cant utilize shit off of it
wimp
could have played better, still stupid
bold geode
and how-
my niche teams are absolute garbage
NUH UH (maybe yuh huh)
craggy dagger
my niches are mostly garbage let’s be honest
craggy dagger
spiral ridge
There’s no explanation 
bold geode
Nova I just figure when it comes to VGC, you just wanna hate yourself /j
Which honestly
Sometimes I do that too so valid
willow vault
Nah
Except for Cosmog
cosmog?
spiral ridge
Yup
craggy dagger
oh cosmog-
i was watching a regionals and a caster said make a cosmog team
balmy glen
I was @ but can’t find it
willow vault
most recent ping to you was from Tofu 8 hours ago
bold geode
oh cosmog-
i was watching a regionals and a caster said make a cosmog team
They also said make a Slither Wing team but I ain't see you do that
C'mon consistency Nova
willow vault
how about both on the same team?
craggy dagger
They also said make a Slither Wing team but I ain't see you do that
C'mon consi...
i have one
balmy glen
most recent ping to you was from Tofu 8 hours ago
Oh what was it
Unless someone ghost pinged me ig
balmy glen
Oh gotcha
rustic mountain
also if u go to the top left, click search then mentions then type ur name u can see wen u were pinged
top right my bad
balmy glen
I did but it doesn’t work on my phone for some reason only when I’m on computer
rustic mountain
ahhh ok yea discord mobile sucks
willow vault
That’s how I found it lmao, just trying to help
rustic mountain
rustic mountain
wat have u been using
willow vault
molten oasis
palkia i assume is one of them?
willow vault
A lot of stuff
willow vault
palkia i assume is one of them?
Not very many games
molten oasis
oh ok
rustic mountain
prolly part of it, not honing in on one thing atleast for a bit to get good w/ that archetype. also if ur using shit like palkia it makes sense
rustic mountain
i mean ur above 50% in bo1 atleast thats not bad
willow vault
bo3 is so awful
rustic mountain
bo3 prolly means u need a better team and to play better urself tbh. identifying y ur losing and what ur losing to and addressing that
willow vault
1060, with under 50% is not good
rustic mountain
that isnt good yea
balmy glen
prolly part of it, not honing in on one thing atleast for a bit to get good w/ t...
I mean tbh I kinda have used every restricted atp but ye
willow vault
bo3 prolly means u need a better team and to play better urself tbh. identifying...
Tilt, a lot of loses from tilt
willow vault
Will do
rustic mountain
tbf keanu i think ur a different tier of player so it doesnt really mean the same for u
balmy glen
Also something I’ve learned from regionals/NAIC/etc etc is to just forget abt a set that just happened completely
willow vault
Ok
rustic mountain
i think some ppl here dont really know the meta the same way and also play suboptimal teams, its hard to get better doing that
mighty stump
job’s not finished
https://tenor.com/view/haikyuu-we-dont-need-the-memories-memories-inarizaki-gif-17404974796398636322
balmy glen
i think some ppl here dont really know the meta the same way and also play subop...
True
willow vault
i think some ppl here dont really know the meta the same way and also play subop...
Probably me
balmy glen
Tofu did u watch the movie
mighty stump
No chance, I’m still mid move
rustic mountain
Probably me
not necessarily about u more a generalization of the channel as a whole but if the shoe fits 
balmy glen
Probably me
nah but seriously dw abt it everyone was there at some point just forget abt a set after it happens whether you win or lose and just save the data/replay and review it later
willow vault
nah but seriously dw abt it everyone was there at some point just forget abt a s...
Thanks
gentle crag
balmy glen
np
willow vault
It’s just a little demorilising that reg f was so much easier for me
rustic mountain
happens to the best of players, but u gta adapt
mighty stump
I feel I’m not understanding that sentence
rustic mountain
ii think they meant demoralizing
mighty stump
That makes more sense
balmy glen
It’s just a little demorilising that reg f was so much easier for me
truthfully ik a lot of top players struggling with reg switches it’s hard to adapt sometimes and some regulations are just easier for some
rustic mountain
nws
mighty stump
It’s pretty natural some people play better/worse in diff formats
rustic mountain
identifying what u found success w/ in reg f not just mon wise but archetype and what it did and trying to see what exists currently that best mirrors that
willow vault
I feel like I found ways to play towards my playstyle better last reg
molten oasis
identifying what u found success w/ in reg f not just mon wise but archetype and...
i see that, definetly helps with the struggle this format can be rn
balmy glen
What’s your style
rustic mountain
sometimes to, u might vibe with something u didnt think, dont close urself off from trying things cuz its popular or doesnt seem like a u team
willow vault
More balance, switching, and probably a bit passive
molten oasis
aw man dude didnt play his match out and just rq, was interested in the snow kyogre stuff
willow vault
Snow Kyogre?
molten oasis
More balance, switching, and probably a bit passive
you'd probably like the kyogre wo chien stuff
willow vault
Interesting
molten oasis
Snow Kyogre?
it was a thing at japan nats
willow vault
you'd probably like the kyogre wo chien stuff
Tried it, does feel better
willow vault
it was a thing at japan nats
Huh
autumn vault
Looks quite weird
molten oasis
i think it got third place
willow vault
Seems weird in concept
molten oasis
kyogre has blizzard and is also tera ice
willow vault
Fair, but it resets the weather
molten oasis
so you can go from spout mode to blizzard mode
willow vault
I guess that it’s multi weather
molten oasis
mhmm
rustic mountain
i see that, definetly helps with the struggle this format can be rn
its really jus for any big format shift. knowing ur strengths as a player and finding or building a team that fits that while also making sense into the current meta
willow vault
That’s smart
molten oasis
its really jus for any big format shift. knowing ur strengths as a player and fi...
yea true
willow vault
I guess the multi weather is nice to counteract rain teams, it’s smart but feels like it would be tough to position
willow vault
https://pokepast.es/3e516d872524bb2d
I’ll give it a go
balmy glen
cant send you my spreads but thats the closest thing I have to balance switching I also have Lando T variant and I usually average like 15 turns with it
willow vault
Cool, thanks for the team
rustic mountain
i see a suicune is that a mr gx team
balmy glen
i see a suicune is that a mr gx team
Ye we build together sometimes
balmy glen
He’s been working on a project which is this team for awhile but if you pay attention to smogon you would be able to find this OTS anyways so
balmy glen
i was on a team w/ him in a team league a few years ago
Smogon or no
rustic mountain
nah
balmy glen
oh what
rustic mountain
it was just a team league from another discord server, PGL
balmy glen
gotcha
rustic mountain
it was on sd ofc tho haha
rustic mountain
tofu recently told me he doesnt have a switch
i didnt even realize
few players ive come across that are cracked that jus dont have one
balmy glen
lol
I can name a couple of people in dou thats the same tbh
I feel like dou is a nice transition
rustic mountain
def seems like it
balmy glen
we had like 5 people this season come out of dou not practice and get top 16
rustic mountain
yall r built different
those ppl gta gt switches nd start competing, prolly will make some good $ lol
balmy glen
why am I facing someone with 4 dark type pokemon and 3 of them tera grass while im using edu's smeargle caly s team lol
balmy glen
its ok I just wont bring csr
such an easy solution tbh
incin rilla ursh is just too broken I just might have to bring meta to worlds
chrome knot
the cycle brothers
bold geode
incin rilla ursh is just too broken I just might have to bring meta to worlds
It is so broken
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/a1cc249f58e93da3 thoughts on a 6th?
bold geode
Incin Rilla Ursh even though it's only been a thing since Gen 8
It's just a timeless classic
molten oasis
they have great natural synergy
gapdos is great into that trio hehe
peli it is
https://pokepast.es/ab716ae797c5d864 this guy is cooking
balmy glen
*gapdos is great into that trio hehe*
kinda
even then I can kinda just pressure u with fake out surging etc etc
molten oasis
ik
on paper its good into it
i have tera ghost for the fake outs rn
but yea nothing is consistently good into those 3
very strong core
molten oasis
dragon is good into it
fair yea
balmy glen
dang i've gotten crit from spirit break from the past 3 grimmsnarls
molten oasis
ah yes, rngsus strikes again
foggy lodge
dragon is good into it
which dragon types are good in the meta rn?
bold geode
dragon is good into it
Raging Bolt is the Incin Rilla Shifu help
Big ol Raging Bolt
Love some Raging Bolt
balmy glen
which dragon types are good in the meta rn?
pretty much what they stated and then like baxcalibur has a meh niche, obviously the restricteds, I have seen roaring moon on 2-2-2 comps again. Kommo on some CSR comps. Dragonite is meh but is on some chien zacian teams. then gouging fire for certain sun teams or zacian teams
foggy lodge
hm
foggy lodge
Raging Bolt is the Incin Rilla Shifu help
isn't he also like
good against those three
balmy glen
ye
bold geode
Aight Keanu
What's the most interesting off meta thing you've seen restricted and non restricted wise
balmy glen
im still deciding if I like calm mind bolt with booster or rather just slot t bolt and increase the special attack
balmy glen
Aight Keanu
What's the most interesting off meta thing you've seen restricted an...
most interesting thing that I've seen work or like in general. That scaling is a lot different lol
molten oasis
bo3 is so much better
bold geode
most interesting thing that I've seen work or like in general. That scaling is ...
I guess both fuck it
molten oasis
mhmm
bold geode
Ok then
I just looked away from my phone for a bit and that just created a wild notif lmao
Ribombee Alcremie Ho Oh
Wtf
I'm guessing that's the one that didn't work
balmy glen
its actually pretty cool but they couldnt pull it off vs me
its tailwind with ribombee with alcremie decorate then you baton pass into your restricted while clicking decorate again
well at least thats what im assuming they tried to do vs me
bold geode
Wtf
bold geode
On Ho Oh
Which could honestly stall out
bold geode
other than that prob that one cool chinese team with the gloom
No don't bring up Gloom Dewgong lmao
That team is ass I'm sorry
charred saddle
balmy glen
That’s because you didn’t face the original creator
bold geode
Yeah that's probably why
balmy glen
All these fakes can’t measure up to the goat
It’s like when I watch people use my team I get a headache
bold geode
Like literally I'm playing them all and I'm like "how tf did this beat Paul Chua" 
bold geode
It’s like when I watch people use my team I get a headache
I'd probably not give you one and also give you one
balmy glen
Like literally I'm playing them all and I'm like "how tf did this beat Paul Chua...
Because the og beat him lol
bold geode
Yeah had to
bold geode
Because the og beat him lol
Also sir I heard you mention rental team
molten oasis
That’s because you didn’t face the original creator
Haven’t fought that team once
bold geode
You dropping Zama in rentals or
molten oasis
Keanu zama team drop 👀
bold geode
Speaking of
Drago I'm taking snow Zama after I'm done with my current WIP
bold geode
Yeah sure
I hate myself enough to try A9 /j
molten oasis
A9 isn’t that bad
bold geode
Don't /j mean joking?
balmy glen
You dropping Zama in rentals or
Prob
bold geode
I mean yea, just saying
No like actually
molten oasis
/j means joking
balmy glen
Saving teams for worlds/OPL tour
molten oasis
Good
I was feeling lonely as the Zama guy in there
Sir
bold geode
/j means joking
Ok
Idk young lingo
bold geode
My cousins keep calling me "big back" and I just found out the other day they were calling me fat
balmy glen
moment
molten oasis
Lmao
bold geode
I'm just like wtf bro
balmy glen
My cousins keep calling me "big back" and I just found out the other day they we...
Ur a content creator?
I’m just clicking on everyone’s role rn lol
molten oasis
He has a blog
bold geode
Ur a content creator?
Have a blog
Cough cough Tofu copy cough cough
bold geode
I'll have maybe 2 more posts coming within the month
molten oasis
I wanted to do streaming
But I bought the wrong stream deck and I have to buy a camera and mic
Ie money I cannot spend rn
Hopefully it works out for you
balmy glen
We shall see
bold geode
Blog is just easier for me due to stuff in life
I'd look into streaming, but idk
molten oasis
you have to do it pretty consistently
or you wont gain any kind of following
anyway time to play more octopath traveler
bold geode
But yeah I do blog and host Limitless tournaments
balmy glen
i need to fuel my addiction
So real
bold geode
Rn when I get home, imma focus on trying to get stuff for prizing for the tours me and Mika host
Wanna get numbers up
Also like
Appreciate Limitless TOs, especially the ones who do all BO3 because that shit can actually be exhausting especially on bigger sized ones lol
And are long too
I have done one full BO3 tour before and it literally lasted 10 1/2 hours
Cool thing was MDB played in it
Bad thing was the org was shit and didn't care about VGC at all, so I left em months later
bold geode
It's Dollarmonke, same as my Discord lol
I can't say the name here cuz it'd probably be promoting the server which is against this servers rules
But they're on Fridays so
Actually the account that we host the tours on ain't my name of course lol
Speaking of which, I gotta tweet out the winner of last tour
And I gotta promote next one later
God so much shit 😭
craggy dagger
craggy dagger
Nova I got a lot of shit to do
anything i can do to help?
bold geode
Eh give me a million bucks
Nah
I just gotta tweet shit, results of last tour and promote next tour, and also oh no
Play Gen 8 again
🤮
molten oasis
Nah
I just gotta tweet shit, results of last tour and promote next tour, and als...
Why are you playing gen 8 again?
bold geode
Get Zacian and imma hunt a 0atk Caly
molten oasis
For shadow rider id assume?
bold geode
Nah, spatk Ice Rider
molten oasis
I’m gonna have to play again if I ever use CSR 
forest arrow
You gonna play CSR?
bold geode
Yes CSR
bold geode
You gonna play CSR?
Nah thinking about prizing for next tour or the one after
I am not touching Caly S.....
Just yet
molten oasis
Oh it’s a reward, ic
forest arrow
Thats the only restricted (besides the blatantly bad ones) that i havent touched lol
molten oasis
I’m never touching it, maybe in double but not now
Don’t see what it does for Zac tbh
bold geode
Yeah I'm touching it in double
molten oasis
Besides good into zama
forest arrow
I think Mirai CIR gonna go brr
molten oasis
Tofu already mentioned there would be 3 things that would immediately get play
Mirai CIR
Zama CSR
Zac Ogre
Mirai CIR sounds so irritating for Zac Ogre to play into
pallid lance
Okay so first attempt at some competitive matches and I was able to win 3 out of 4. Two single battled and 2 teams and I can see why teams are more fun
bold geode
Mirai CIR sounds so irritating for Zac Ogre to play into
Thing is I can't even say Rillaboom for this
molten oasis
However beyond those picks I’m not sure what’s gonna be used
Pairing wise
Korai Mirai will likely show
Same with double dogs, on ladder
Snow could be better since you don’t have to rely on kwhite
forest arrow
double honse
bold geode
I feel like double dogs will be a troll
forest arrow
youre right
molten oasis
And uh thank god we don’t have to deal with both horses ever
Like, nah fuck that
I’d rather skewer slide than fight that
Ogre CSR could be a thing
bold geode
I’d rather skewer slide than fight that
Don't commit Kermit pool cosplay
bold geode
See I feel like the first 3 are the best cuz Wide Guard will probably still be used
So you want your duo to compliment each other as well as have one for spread and one single target
forest arrow
Yeah Mirai/CIR is what im gonna use fs
molten oasis
I’d love to experiment with double restricteds sometime with people
Think that’ll be fun
I think Zac/zama korai could also be a thing (mostly Zac)
bold geode
Honestly out of the 3, I'm sorry I gotta say Zac Ogre sounds the worst
Not that it's bad, just the fact that like
CIR and Miraidon compliment each other well
Zama CSR compliment each other beautifully
Idk yet how Zac helps Ogre
pallid lance
So far in singles I got knock off spammers and charizard whirlwind spammers and some guy advertising a website. What the heck goin on
molten oasis
Zac kills dragons
Kyogre kills incin
Zac also good into rilla
And bolt/hands who are both weak to fairy
bold geode
Yeah
Zama CSR will be big cuz those 2 literally compliment each other exactly now
molten oasis
Yea, that’s gonna be, so annoying to break lol
forest arrow
Gross babe
bold geode
Like they both literally pat each other's back in terms of their main weaknesses
foggy lodge
Yeah Mirai/CIR is what im gonna use fs
i was thinking about that also
but i want to see how the rest of restricteds do in a double restricte meta
not just, the same 9 of this meta
molten oasis
Since my restricted pick is and always will be Zac, it’s gonna be painful to find it’s partners beyond kyogre
molten oasis
If I try using koraidon I have to get a koraidon
bold geode
But yeah I mainly see the competition of Zama and CSR vs Miraidon and CIR being the main competition, they're behemoths RN already and it'll just get better
molten oasis
Zac good into both Mirai and CIR, if they don’t Tera at least
I have to look at positives for my dog lol
bold geode
Basically 2 super duos
They're basically gonna give me LeBron and D Wade in double restricted lmao
balmy glen
moment
molten oasis
Zac gets better but so does everything else
bold geode
Well idk how much everything gets better
Honestly Rayquaza in double restricted gonna be something maybe
molten oasis
I still think Ray is gonna be bad
bold geode
Eh depends on what it's paired with
knotty mirage
I wonder when in double restricted format will zamazenta be the best pair for caly s
bold geode
Idk lemme cope
molten oasis
Like you could but idk
bold geode
I wonder when in double restricted format will zamazenta be the best pair for ca...
The whole fuckin time essentially
molten oasis
I wonder when in double restricted format will zamazenta be the best pair for ca...
Yes, 100%
They cover eachother perfectly
bold geode
Like until they find a hard counter for CSR Zamazenta it will be good
molten oasis
Like until they find a hard counter for CSR Zamazenta it will be good
How do you counter that
bold geode
Cuz you can probably be more versatile with sets then too
knotty mirage
Okay yeah fair enough zam could almost one shot everything that caly fear
molten oasis
I see nothing that just counters that
forest arrow
Dursh is the one thing to mind
molten oasis
I think the way to beat it is be the zama CSR or play better
forest arrow
chi yu
molten oasis
Dursh is the one thing to mind
Chi Yu has to pick on killing zama or CSR and I’m betting those zama’s will end up running wide guard
I’m not sure
I think it’ll be hard to find something for that but something will pop up
CSR Zama gonna be insane to say the least
Grimmsnarl screens might not be awful into that
bold geode
Yeah like rn hmm
Do I wanna have set up on Caly or set up on Zama
Or I can not go setup on both
Or set up both
Possibilities are there
balmy glen
What do you pair Ray with
Zacian Ray Chien
bold geode
Chi Yu has to pick on killing zama or CSR and I’m betting those zama’s will end ...
Run Flamethrower Chi Yu lol
Or just Overheat
You'd want to kill Zama as a Chi Yu in that instance lol
balmy glen
Man Zama mirrors are annoying.
Man CSR mirrors are annoying.
Give us CSR Zama mirrors now
Boutta be interesting to see ngl
bold geode
Man Zama mirrors are annoying.
Man CSR mirrors are annoying.
Give us CSR Zama ...
CSR Zama mirrors with both having Wide Guard finna be a bitch
bold geode
I was thinking of running IDBP Zamazenta with a Snarl Caly S
DKiss/AB/Snarl/Protect
With Zama running IDBP/Heavy Slam/Protect
Idk if imma run Wide Guard Zamazenta tbh
molten oasis
Sucks cuz I don’t play HO, I am a balance player
Gotta learn how to build balance Zac+smth
But that’ll come, isn’t the next reg announced next month?
molten oasis
I took HO Zac to NAIC, I regret that
balmy glen
Keanu what do you think about Rayquaza
I have some friends that ran it
it’s not bad but it’s not too great atm
molten oasis
I hated not switching in and out lol
Or just not being able to without killing smth
balmy glen
It loses to Zama, CSR, Farig stuff so I’d prob put gholdengo on Ray teams
foggy lodge
i've been playing this, is the team that ended 2nd at Indianapolis but with some changes to fit better my playstyle
(the code doesn't work anymore btw lol)
molten oasis
It loses to Zama, CSR, Farig stuff so I’d prob put gholdengo on Ray teams
Would you go Tera normal for dengo?
foggy lodge
It loses to Zama, CSR, Farig stuff so I’d prob put gholdengo on Ray teams
Yeah i saw a Ray team at a regional that did quite well
bold geode
I was thinking of running IDBP Zamazenta with a Snarl Caly S
DKiss/AB/Snarl/Prot...
Actually Keanu thoughts on this?
Also second on Goldie Ray, it go hard
shrewd scarab
bold geode
Would you go Tera normal for dengo?
I think Water or Normal, depends on which Caly you wanna have a better MU into
foggy lodge
Back to RPG
Which game are you playing?
bold geode
Which Water is probably better with being paired into Ray that doesn't have the best CIR MU
molten oasis
Octopath Traveler
foggy lodge
Uhh
molten oasis
Heard it was good so I’m trying it out
foggy lodge
It seemed interesting but i never played it
molten oasis
I have played the other game pass options already
sea of stars is my second favorite game of all time
balmy glen
Would you go Tera normal for dengo?
I always do
bold geode
Oh
Tera Water for CIR no good?
foggy lodge
*I have played the other game pass options already*
Wonder if the game pass is a monetary benefit to Xbox lol
balmy glen
Oh
Tera Water for CIR no good?
My gholdengo is already fine into Caly ice
I can send my NAIC rental in rental teams and give calcs n such idrk how I’d explain much tho
bold geode
Just explain why you chose what you chose
molten oasis
Yea
bold geode
Like "x is here cuz of y"
balmy glen
If I get rid of a team after I make it a rental will it stay
bold geode
If I get rid of a team after I make it a rental will it stay
As long as you are sharing the team, code will be good and you can clear it out of battle teams
balmy glen
It’s kind of annoying since at regionals when they do team checks your only supposed to have 1 team in your list of comp teams
bold geode
Yeah
But yeah to make the rental not available, you manually have to go into your shared teams and stop sharing it
foggy lodge
If I get rid of a team after I make it a rental will it stay
Ah that's something i was curious also
How do you register your team in tournaments?
balmy glen
How do you register your team in tournaments?
Rk.9 labs
bold geode
tera dark blast eleki just for caly shadow
I expect to see a replay with it later
bold geode
Hey
You are my little off meta queen, if it can be stupid and funny, do it
molten oasis
tera dark blast eleki just for caly shadow
I need that replay 
molten oasis
i need to make a team first
Ok, make it
Also why not ghost
You dodge fo in the process
rustic mountain
ok im starting to really schmove w/ this wo chien team
molten oasis
Figuring it out to its fullest ic
craggy dagger
Also why not ghost
oh true
rustic mountain
idk bout to its fullest, shiliang and justin are definitely ones who have but im def starting to figure it out more
like this guy jus got shit on
molten oasis
idk bout to its fullest, shiliang and justin are definitely ones who have but im...
Fullest to your eye then
rustic mountain
fullest in my eyes would be their level w/ the team haha
molten oasis
Fair enough
rustic mountain
also its prolly me but this team does not like smeargle/muk/lugia shit haha
rustic mountain
dude
molten oasis
rustic mountain
av ogre w/ light screen is a beast
molten oasis
Seriously
So tanky, av is great for CSR too since you’re already very specially bulky
rustic mountain
yea they shouldve atleast tried playing it out a few more turns w/ csr screens were almost gone but
i think they realized they werent gna outdamage my bulk
rustic mountain
it was cute w/ iron head but yea overall it wasnt good for them
rustic mountain
on them for dracoing so early
molten oasis
50% to the wo chien from bolt’s spa boosted Draco is still hilarious
Then just “imma heal that back up”
rustic mountain
yep lmao this team is so annoying
molten oasis
Grimmsnarl pisses me off the most if anything
para hax is a nightmare and being slow as a Zac player sucks
rustic mountain
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2144648016-y5djenb8exoyrp41tyv6m9aoqv61g1npw
this one was more slow play
lost grim t1, didnt care
rustic mountain
Grimmsnarl pisses me off the most if anything
it is a very annoying mon to play vs
rustic mountain
yea i schmoved on em
molten oasis
Indeed you did
rustic mountain
double sp atk drop grimm down t1, 2 crits against me
molten oasis
Not enough
rustic mountain
molten oasis
I win cuz I’m literally too bulky
rustic mountain
i mean i did have to play well imo but in a sense yea cuz wo chien was jus out there tanking shit allowing me to pollen puff my partners back up to keep myself innit
molten oasis
Yep
rustic mountain
the turn i predicted the protect on cir and wisped the rilla 
rustic mountain
for me honestly it was less a read and more like, rilla was the most annoyin thing for ogre there in the end game, if i could neutralize that as a threat, i thought id be good, even if they decided to attack there w/ cir
but like i figured theyd protect also haha
molten oasis
Yea
rustic mountain
Was it specs flutter?
had to be
rustic mountain
honestly worked well giving them an early lead, and it was poking holes in my team
rustic mountain
idt they really want booster speed on that team comp
tera on cir, incin, av rilla
im sure they r fine
rustic mountain
im not saying they cant/wont lose to csr but considering where they were at in the ladder, they should have def faced and beaten some csr along the way
rustic mountain
oof
molten oasis
Idk what it is but people in 1400/1500’s fucking love tr torkoal
And my team, does not like torkoal
That and for some reason I get parahaxed constantly
rustic mountain
Idk what it is but people in 1400/1500’s fucking love tr torkoal
yea ive faced some in that range lol
molten oasis
Annoying asf but, it’s bo1
Haven’t seen it, well I saw it once, but not much in bo3 yet
balmy glen
people dont know how to use the team at all
even in mid ladder 1600s they are playing it kind of eh
rustic mountain
id say if ur consistently losing to the same stuff u gta figure out if its a team issue
molten oasis
The kyogre wo chien stuff?
rustic mountain
or a u issue
balmy glen
The kyogre wo chien stuff?
ye
molten oasis
id say if ur consistently losing to the same stuff u gta figure out if its a tea...
I mean it is I had nothing for it
rustic mountain
thx keanu i def dont feel called out 
rustic mountain
but nah ik im not the greatest w/ the team
balmy glen
i dont even have draining kiss
molten oasis
Like my whole line is bolt and the torkoal teams have, something for bolt pretty often
balmy glen
i have psyshock csr and it still feels fine
bold geode
i dont even have draining kiss
I hate non DKiss sets
balmy glen
the psyshock melts the kyogre
molten oasis
They can kinda just murder the partner of bolt then target it down later
rustic mountain
I mean it is I had nothing for it
gta tech something out then mon or move to help w/ that
bold geode
I think D Kiss in general just better
molten oasis
gta tech something out then mon or move to help w/ that
I added peli over wellspring it’s a lot better now
rustic mountain
nice
molten oasis
Koraidon was also rough so, also solves that
rustic mountain
i feel like peli is a must for zacian
molten oasis
I think D Kiss in general just better
I think it’s dependent on your team
balmy glen
just depends tbh
molten oasis
i feel like peli is a must for zacian
At this rate yea
Zac really appreciates rain and wide guard to not pass up
rustic mountain
ye
molten oasis
Think having peli at NAIC would have been better than torn
Torn was mid
First match I missed both bleakwind
rustic mountain
its called bleakwind for a reason, shit gets bleak
molten oasis
I was already losing but that was just painful lol
rustic mountain
seems like u had a solid 1st experience, and nats r tough, as long as u learned shit jus gta build onnit
molten oasis
Lmfao
rustic mountain
frfr
rustic mountain
u generally not run less then 100% accurate moves dillon?
next stump
nowadays I try to do 95% + unless it's a crazy good move like t wave grimm
rustic mountain
yea
molten oasis
Makes sense yea
balmy glen
t wave flutter on top
molten oasis
I have to suffer with PR cuz sacred sword sucks on it
rustic mountain
t wave grimm has been very nice for me
molten oasis
Like, as your second attack
rustic mountain
does it?
molten oasis
Just doesn’t do enough damage
rustic mountain
ahhh
molten oasis
With SD you still miss ko’s
rustic mountain
yea
rustic mountain
if not sd, something like coaching or howl seems cool but idk
rustic mountain
yea jus seems tough
molten oasis
Gouging fire/scream tail also feel awkward
rustic mountain
cuz u wanna outspeed but scarf coaching leaves a slot either having to switch or keep clicking that and good players can jus play around that usually
molten oasis
With tail a steel/fire type ruins your day
molten oasis
cuz u wanna outspeed but scarf coaching leaves a slot either having to switch or...
That’s exactly what happened one match
I Tera’d shifu too early and just got stuck clicking coaching cuz I couldn’t switch
Kinda why I’m not fond of HO
I hate being unable to switch things in to take hits
balmy glen
My NAIC team has coaching shifu
what was the team
molten oasis
1 sec lemme get the paste
rustic mountain
ho is fine but u need to generate ur own offense, having another mon needing to boost zacian up is the issue
molten oasis
I don’t mind sharing it it was kinda, bleh
Notably, Tera stellar blast was not good, torn felt mid, volc kinda sucked and didn’t mesh well with the team, and also, again felt unable to switch things around since it was HO+volc
Should have taken peli and SD on Zac with defensive Tera
Too late now, still went 5-4 with it so I didn’t do that bad
Tera fire ice rider was an awful mu
molten oasis
ho is fine but u need to generate ur own offense, having another mon needing to ...
Zac either boosts itself with SD or NEEDS incin gone and pao in position, with HO
molten oasis
Yea, balance would have worked better
It was so rough to get it into position
After NAIC I gained a general hatred for incin, cuz of how many there were and how bad I did into it lol
but i learned, Zac needs peli+another incin answer cuz incin is its worst mu
Next event I’ll have a better prepped team
whenever that happens
balmy glen
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reggbo3-2144666271-x06wjlce4rsk4g61oi1c3xtetyqa3ctpw man low ladder really is trying to build new hard room or is using a rental theres no in between
molten oasis
It won’t load for me for whatever reason
Ah there we go
Wow, he is cooking
https://pokepast.es/43ccd75313b45aac now THIS guy, THIS guy was cooking
(this was in bo3)
forest arrow
https://pokepast.es/43ccd75313b45aac now THIS guy, THIS guy was cooking
This is a burnt down kitchen
molten oasis
I was so confused when I loaded into that match
balmy glen
lmao
forest arrow
Shell smash water spout
molten oasis
No restricted, no tr p2, no wide guard peli
balmy glen
let them cook frfr
forest arrow
Has to be first team
molten oasis
I hope so
forest arrow
I remember I tried bright powder chomp in Sand 
forest arrow
Most definitely that was my first team
forest arrow
That was a regular thing? Hmm maybe I did cook lol
molten oasis
That was a regular thing? Hmm maybe I did cook lol
It wasn’t
forest arrow
oh okay
molten oasis
Mid bonnet and gargnacmid
chrome knot
what we think of this pokemon replay
molten oasis
Top tier
molten oasis
I loved when CSR clicked Tera ghost astral barrage
forest arrow
Cause that was definitely series 1
molten oasis
Sylveon being meta cuz fairies didn’t exists
Then fluttermane runs rampant for the next 5 regulations
forest arrow
Was so good, I also played armadee that was after the chomp stuff, then I’ve stuck with HO/Balance ever since
forest arrow
yeahhh I was a baby, but had fun blowing stuff up
molten oasis
Psychic terrain being the only viable terrain was rough
forest arrow
Yeah was such a prob when we didn’t have rilla
molten oasis
Cuz armadeedee just, did its thing
forest arrow
Now Mirai too ig
forest arrow
Yeah gotta love it, my two fav teams this reg were CIR and Mirai, definitely pictured korai being the better one
forest arrow
incin makes all physical attackers hold CLam tho so only natural I suppose
forest arrow
Yeah hopefully so
molten oasis
Don’t remind me of my burden plz lol
forest arrow
I’m sorry, I get reminded of it every battle I go into 
But we gotta deal with it, it’s here to stay
molten oasis
Unfortunately
forest arrow
agreed
molten oasis
Genuinely went from being like, incins fine to I hope incin drowns
Incins ruined so many games for Zac
Sucks man
forest arrow
Yeah jollly incin has been my best friend to just shut down the opposing ones
molten oasis
Yea that’s fair
Through my hatred of incin I became more fond of shifu
I like shifu, even if unseen fist is broken
forest arrow
Yeah and I used to hate amoongus but I finally came around to it
molten oasis
Peli was the same for me but I finally just decided it’s not worth not using it as a Zac player
Peli is a must for Zac imo
Nothing does what it does
molten oasis
Wow, nice
molten oasis
Did you catch my team for NAIC or nah? I’m guessing you’ve been playing matches
balmy glen
Ye I’ve been playing and eating so I missed it
balmy glen
Oh gotcha
balmy glen
I prob would’ve just used Tyos Zacian paste for NAIC ngl
forest arrow
Zac, Dnite, Chien?
molten oasis
That sounds right
Although I regret taking HO to NAIC cuz I’m more of a balance player
https://pokepast.es/158cdbdac4bed6f6 rn I’m rocking this+peli
Umbreon has been helpful
balmy glen
Zac, Dnite, Chien?
Ye
forest arrow
Sounds pretty cool, I ran a lot of Dnite, Entei stuff reg f
Nice you’re trying Umbreon again, looks cool man
molten oasis
Nice you’re trying Umbreon again, looks cool man
Found a CIR team, they hated it
Found a Lunala team with psyspam, they also hated it
I think they tried to bait me out of taking it by not taking Lunala and armarouge
In g2
chrome knot
thoughts on DK’s Jungle Parkway?
balmy glen
Are yall signed up for that OPL tour
chrome knot
yeah
plain drum
thoughts on DK’s Jungle Parkway?
Honestly forgot this track existed
molten oasis
Are yall signed up for that OPL tour
What’s that?
balmy glen
What’s that?
VGC tour everyone gets drafted for
It’s pretty cool for meeting new people so I signed up
mighty stump
Are yall signed up for that OPL tour
I am
molten sand
I need avice on this rain team
Baxcalibur (M) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Thermal Exchange
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe
- Aqua Tail
- Glaive Rush
- Earthquake
- Ice Fang
Pelipper @ Damp Rock
Ability: Drizzle
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 116 HP / 156 Def / 92 SpA / 144 SpD
- Knock Off
- Tailwind
- Roost
- Weather Ball
Politoed @ Damp Rock
Ability: Drizzle
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 Def / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
- Encore
- Brick Break
- Hydro Pump
- Weather Ball
Corviknight
Ability: Pressure
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 164 Atk / 164 Def / 84 SpD / 96 Spe
- Roost
- U-turn
- Iron Head
- Brave Bird
Drednaw @ Rindo Berry
Ability: Swift Swim
Tera Type: Water
- Body Press
- Poison Jab
- Waterfall
- Throat Chop
Dragonite
Ability: Multiscale
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 112 HP / 200 SpA / 196 Spe
- Thunder
- Extreme Speed
- Waterfall
- Hurricane
balmy glen
can u send that in a paste lmao
molten sand
Sorry I can
silver ravine
I'd get rid of Baxcalibur, Politoed, Corvinight, Drednaw, and Dragonite. I'd add in Raging Bolt, Archaludon, Tornadus, and maybe Urshifu Rapid-Strike
molten oasis
lmao
cyan smelt
Uh with the items it looks like a singles team?
molten oasis
i think bro's dead
silver ravine
Snap you're right. Figured it was VGC as that's what's mostly covered here
forest arrow
It looks like a singles team, that dnite is something tho-
forest arrow
Cooking a whole ghourmet meal
silver ravine
If so def is missing hazards and a way to get rid of them
forest arrow
did dnite really auto correct to drago
no im typing on Pc, I was thinking dragonite but meant to type dnite lmao
fingers moving faster than brain lol
molten oasis
ah ic
forest arrow
and im watching AoT
molten oasis
goated anime
forest arrow
everyone seems to tell me that lol
molten oasis
cuz its true
forest arrow
im ready for it
molten oasis
what part are you at specifically
silver ravine
Is Mike Jones a sus OT? In hindsight I should've just named it the same as my main profile, but I thought it would be funny to have it as Mike Jones.
molten oasis
forest arrow
dm'd didnt wanna spoil anyone
silver ravine
Having people ask whose pokemon it is, only to see it's "Mike Jones". Mind you I only plan on playing the ladder, but still
silver ravine
Yeah buddy
molten oasis
dm'd didnt wanna spoil anyone
no worries
silver ravine
If I make a 3rd profile for god knows why, I'm naming the next after the Lord of Swishahouse, Paul Wall.
forest arrow
If I make a 3rd profile for god knows why, I'm naming the next after the Lord of...
haha lets go
Htown baby
born but not raised lol
still represent tho
silver ravine
Never been to Htown, but San Antonio was nice. Just a big fan of Texas and Southern hip hop in general
forest arrow
Yeah def some good hiphop for sure
balmy glen
Baxcalibur (M) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Thermal Exchange
Tera Type: Water...
What singles tier is this
rustic mountain
paul walls verse on drive slow is legendary
silver ravine
As good as the classics are, Money Time is my favorite Paul Wall joint
molten sand
What singles tier is this
Ou
plain drum
chrome knot
foggy lodge
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1-8cq21ejB18fFbcGMIBmmAT-a-nncaNQxYjd4mll...
Damn
It's going to be interesting reading this
balmy glen
It's going to be interesting reading this
It will be interesting for me to figure out how to write on how to play it
strange fjord
sharp cobalt
plain drum
“just win”
“Roll good”
balmy glen
true
autumn vault
<:sphevil:910016275940540436>
Why did i think this is a seaking for a second?
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.1
molten oasis
Why did i think this is a seaking for a second?
Why is your pfp Mr.Beast?
autumn vault
I just wanted to change my pfp
molten oasis
Ic
autumn vault
I was trying to make a PFP out of Mack but his faces just weren't good enough, Jimmy did make a good face which is why i chose him
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.1
foggy lodge
autumn vault
Neat
foggy lodge
4 years ago the worst legendary for VGC was released congrats
zinc totem
weird querstion but i can infinitely fuze necrozma with lunala yes? like if i fuse once, i can unfuse them anytime i want and fuse later again if i want to?
junior blade
Yo guys can anyone help me create my team from the pokemons i give you? I dont know what would be the best and allat
Its for singles
autumn vault
My Groudon survived surging strikes from Urshifu and +1 body press from Zama and landed both precipice and OHKO'd zamazenta at +1 with a crit
The groudon goat
zinc totem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFsNw1MozQw these are pretty interesting. any opinions?
mighty stump
Charizard is a straight up worse option than Chi-Yu
autumn vault
And unlike chari, chi-yu still gets a better SpA and an ability that helps it's damage output without removing 1/8th of it's health
Granted the ability's boost is smaller then solar power
But 135 SpA with a 1.25x boost is bigger then a 109 with a 1.5x boost
And we can't forget Chi-Yu gets a better secondary type
And also Charizard and Chi-Yu have the same speed
mighty stump
Well you cant look at it as just a 1.25x boost methinks
But yea
Effectively Chi-Yu on average will do more damage lol
autumn vault
Effectively Chi-Yu on average will do more damage lol
Thats a better way to describe it
charred saddle
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1-8cq21ejB18fFbcGMIBmmAT-a-nncaNQxYjd4mll...
bike tyson 
its cool that you highlighted the important ones
zinc totem
jokes aside charizard is GF favourite mon <a:KEKWlaugh:1033574414501031986>
more than enough reason to include it in vgc team
patent marsh
jokes aside charizard is GF favourite mon <a:KEKWlaugh:1033574414501031986>
ZA will introduce Mega Charizard Z with an ability like koraidon's but for SpA
chrome knot
so basically
craggy dagger
so basically
chrome knot
WAH
dull ibex
hello
@mighty stumpsince its slow I figured i'd ask, would you be down to do palworld pvp whenever its out?
bold geode
<a:Bites:693343804962504757>
mighty stump
<@250386799363489808>since its slow I figured i'd ask, would you be down to do p...
Sure but probably not anytime soon lol
I just moved
dull ibex
That's fair
chrome knot
brain fog
dull ibex
Pog moving
feral wraith
How’s Malaysia?
bold geode
I just moved
Hey Tofu
bold geode
How’s Malaysia?
Singapore is in Malaysia?
molten oasis
I guess
bold geode
<@250386799363489808>since its slow I figured i'd ask, would you be down to do p...
Also if I could play Palworld, I'd be down to try it
autumn vault
Idk i'm not Asian
bold geode
Idk if that's an excuse lmao
dull ibex
Also if I could play Palworld, I'd be down to try it
If I can get it working I'm doen
bold geode
If I can get it working I'm doen
Yeah I just can't
My only hope is if it was on PS or Switch
dull ibex
Yeah I just can't
My only hope is if it was on PS or Switch
I'm hoping it comes to switch and they handle pvp right
bold geode
Lol honestly I hope more PS cuz idk how well the Switch will handle Palworld
Also Singapore is a country, ok so I was right
feral wraith
feral wraith
It is
feral wraith
Yes
Though admittedly I didn’t know it was once part of Malaysia
I just knew they shared an island
mighty stump
Bruh
feral wraith
I’m not well versed on the history of Asia
bold geode
Yeah me neither
autumn vault
Me neither
willow vault
Me neither
molten oasis
Gapdos is a failure as a Zac partner and shifu is just better
Well, not a failure
But gapdos doesn’t help as much as rapid strike especially cuz of the stupid fucking horse
bold geode
https://x.com/stephenlkent/status/1802738657637343612?s=61&t=NhLG0-gTTPCYG2rXYae...
Yeah but I'm hearing PCs and MSS are going bye bye
What is actually going on here Dillon?
Are locals still gonna be a thing?
next stump
Okay so TLDR as I understand it:
- We now have Cups and Challenges instead of PC’s and MSS’s
- Season will start on July 1st rather than September 1st
- VGC locals need to be hosted at a store that already has an existing “League” structure. This is a TCG thing so basically locals need to be hosted at card shops now (and not public parks, libraries, etc.)
- Locals will now be tied to the store rather than the professor hosting the local. For example, if you have one store with 3 professors, you used to be able to hold 3 PC’s per month and 3 MSS’s per quarter at one store. Now, you can only host one PC per month and one MSS per quarter regardless of how many TOs you have
bold geode
Okay so TLDR as I understand it:
- We now have Cups and Challenges instead of P...
So basically sounds like a shit thing
next stump
It’s nice starting 2 months earlier but it looks like there will be much fewer tournaments across the year
I wonder if they adjust the CP bar to qualify for worlds to make up for it
bold geode
I hope
timber falcon
what restricted can take advantage of swampert AV
rustic mountain
Okay so TLDR as I understand it:
- We now have Cups and Challenges instead of P...
so basically, lets make it harder for ppl to get points on a local level
next stump
TPCi 
rustic mountain
id hope theyd adjust the points to reflect that but knowing them, they wont
craggy dagger
what restricted can take advantage of swampert AV
huh
timber falcon
yeah finally found some time to work on the team
tofu pointed out it learned both counter and mirror coat
autumn vault
what restricted can take advantage of swampert AV
Figure that out yourself
timber falcon
Figure that out yourself
but it got no clue
autumn vault
Then look at types
timber falcon
type synergy isnt everything
timber falcon
the swampert effectively acts as smething which counters HO
autumn vault
Swampert's yawn pressure can be very beneficial for Ho-Oh
timber falcon
the swampert effectively acts as smething which counters HO
which restricted would benefit from that?
timber falcon
Swampert's yawn pressure can be very beneficial for Ho-Oh
AV
autumn vault
Honestly idk
craggy dagger
Figure that out yourself
someone woke on the wrong side of the bed
timber falcon
Swampert @ Assault Vest
Ability: Torrent
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 HP / 156 Def / 100 SpD
Impish Nature
- Liquidation
- High Horsepower
- Counter
- Mirror Coat
this is the set so far
i think i might find more value in moves like ivy-wind however, or knock
but other, better mons can do that
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.1