competitive_discussion

[polar canyon]

Gonna be using wo-chien at some point soon in his honor

[rustic mountain]

jus take the burn man

[torn parrot]

No

[rustic mountain]

u outspeed if urshi isnt para'd not much else to do there

not sure wat he was deliberating over

oh nvm this incin is fast af

[torn parrot]

It was fun putting all my hype into one guy

[warped mason]

Trickroom i think

[rustic mountain]

nah he hasnt set tr

[polar canyon]

No pollen puff on the kyogre again there after wood hammer tho

[willow vault]

no, otherwise caly-i would go first?

[polar canyon]

Wonder why he didn't just do that

[rustic mountain]

he prolly outspeeds somethin like ogre w/ everything but cir

oh u mean pollen puff

i mean usually hed get the ko there on cir but yea

[warped mason]

Wo chien just pollen puffs here right?

[torn parrot]

can the wo chan even kill rillaboom? Like

does it have any actual damaging moves

[polar canyon]

Pollen puff is se

[torn parrot]

Ahhh ye

I forgot about puff

[polar canyon]

Wo-chien was my goat here

[warped mason]

Wo chien the true restricted

[rustic mountain]

patrick basically just did all my friends are dead strat

[willow vault]

true

we appreciate wo-chien here

[torn parrot]

The fight is real

[rustic mountain]

cool to see it did well atleast

[torn parrot]

He can probably just puff and reflect

that also works

[warped mason]

Why didn't he puff there

[willow vault]

no puff?

[polar canyon]

There's a non 0 chance

[torn parrot]

He def should have puffed

[polar canyon]

Yeah

[foggy lodge]

He threw

[polar canyon]

There was a non 0 chance

[willow vault]

probably wouldn't win anyways, but yeah

[rustic mountain]

no he didnt, wo chien and grimm did not have enough to finish that game

puff is just prolonging the inevitable, hes still taking damge

[willow vault]

true

[polar canyon]

Patrick more like pastinky fr whyd he have to eliminate my goat

[rustic mountain]

bolt was jus waiting in the wings

[willow vault]

yeah exactly bolt just cleans up here

[polar canyon]

Non 0 chance

[torn parrot]

It wasn’t impossible

[polar canyon]

He wants rillaboom to die so he doesn't have to set up grassy terrain again I think

[charred saddle]

honestly wochien can win this no?

[rustic mountain]

it has the potential to yea

[willow vault]

is the urshifu para'd?

[charred saddle]

ye

if it cant move jsut once wochien wins

[torn parrot]

It’s the same situation yet again

[polar canyon]

Cmon slug boy you can do it

[willow vault]

can win, not confirmed with a single para

thats game

[rustic mountain]

its over yea

[willow vault]

its joever

[rustic mountain]

needed the para

[torn parrot]

Saaaaaaaaddd

Wonder who will win

[foggy lodge]

With a crit lol

[warped mason]

Unfort

[polar canyon]

He played so well..

[foggy lodge]

Crit mattered

[rustic mountain]

my pick to win is still innit

[willow vault]

top 4 for patrick, thats cool atleast

[polar canyon]

I'm sad about it

[foggy lodge]

jk

[warped mason]

Pat was simply the chosen 1

[willow vault]

same, I think we have the same pick right?

[torn parrot]

He kinda deserved that victory

[polar canyon]

Fr

[rustic mountain]

did u pick edu

[willow vault]

yeah

[rustic mountain]

then yea

[willow vault]

nice

[molten oasis]

How are matches goin?

[torn parrot]

Who are the two restricteds left

[willow vault]

that origin miss was sad

[polar canyon]

This one was so unbearably sad

[rustic mountain]

why kinda? he did. u can argue rng was unfortunate for shiliang but thats the risk wen u run not 100% accurate moves

[molten oasis]

Why

[willow vault]

but patrick played so well

[rustic mountain]

nd rely on paras

[polar canyon]

Our goat wo-chien got outlucked hard

[molten oasis]

Oof

[willow vault]

Patrick played better, but also had some rng luck, but that happens

[polar canyon]

Ruination + origin pulse miss

[willow vault]

just a part of the game

[molten oasis]

[polar canyon]

4 non-para turns I think

[rustic mountain]

4 in g1 alone i think

[willow vault]

yeah 4 in g1

[polar canyon]

Now I get why grown adults can get so angry watching sports

[rustic mountain]

never that serious bruh

[polar canyon]

Half joking

[willow vault]

I mean shiliang was relying on rng, it wasn't always going to work out well

[rustic mountain]

yep

[bold geode]

Are they showing every single quarterfinal match?

[rustic mountain]

idk

[torn parrot]

It’s not that deep really it was just a choice of words I agree that he defintely deserved the win

[polar canyon]

He faced kyogre wo-chien quite a bit?

[rustic mountain]

never said it was that deep but kinda is very specific way to word it

[willow vault]

im not too surprised, I feel like it makes alot of sense

[rustic mountain]

a few from that building group have been running it

prolly faced em a bunch on high ladder

keanu said he did yday

[polar canyon]

When it's put like that yeah he did play well conforming his win along with the luck

You need to know how to leverage the opportunities you get

[torn parrot]

Mb for the misunderstanding

When im personally facing the facts of a situation I’ll ussually use words like probably or kinda or maybe to make it go down easier

[rustic mountain]

gotcha

[polar canyon]

It's not underserved just because he got lucky

[rustic mountain]

every good run has some sort of luck involved

cool seeing this dude get this result

top 4 at naic is a wild first big result

[molten oasis]

Wow

[polar canyon]

Pretty huge

[molten oasis]

That’s a great first result

[polar canyon]

Me next year frfr

[willow vault]

It’s so cool to see though

[rustic mountain]

yea he had 2 top 64s prior

so this def his breakthru

even before top 4

[polar canyon]

Top 64 sounds pretty good

[rustic mountain]

i didnt say it was bad

[torn parrot]

Which restricteds are left in the tourney tourney

[rustic mountain]

jus not the big result ppl often look for

[next stump]

he’s the Tim Edwards of NAIC

[rustic mountain]

csr, cir for sure

[next stump]

also top 4 is $7000 so picked a great tournament to pop off in

[polar canyon]

I'd be so happy with top 64 for someone like me honestly

[bold geode]

Oh they're showing all the top 8 matches

[rustic mountain]

lmao frfr

[polar canyon]

Oh damn I never thought about prize money

[willow vault]

Damn

[polar canyon]

That's huge

[rustic mountain]

really hard tour to get such a high placement too, props

[polar canyon]

I always wonder what people do with the money they get from events

If I got 7k from an event I'd have no idea what to do with it

[next stump]

usually back into travel for more events

[willow vault]

Makes sense

[next stump]

my $1500 from portland went to Hawaii for worlds

[rustic mountain]

again, not saying top 64 is something to scoff at but generally ppl wanna push for the top ya know? especially if uve gotten that range for some tours u wanna keep improving and get higher placement, jus part of the natural progression of competing

[polar canyon]

Oh you're qualified too?

[polar canyon]

Gotcha icic

Maybe I'll get to that someday if I put myself into it

And if I start being able to travel for it

Still waiting for the smaller official events to be back

[rustic mountain]

locals have been going on this szn

[polar canyon]

I can travel around my own country every few months

[rustic mountain]

jus gta know wen they r being hosted

[willow vault]

origin miss nearly cost me the game but we move https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2139582239-nk5c0ns8j169r3fyjpf7udsgq1q8obspw

[polar canyon]

Yeah not anytime soon

Gonna try building psyspam after this is over

And like finally build the other team I'm happy with on cart

Once I find someone willing to trade a koraidon

[willow vault]

not psyspam (build what you want, but it makes me sad to face)

[polar canyon]

Is it ok if it's only sometimes psyspam

[rustic mountain]

@bold geode looks like yea they r doing every top 8

[polar canyon]

I wanna have a fast cm lunala and might as well have an indeedee on the team for it

3 attacks calm mind?

[willow vault]

its fine no matter how much psyspam but it makes me personally sad, but don't let that deter you

[bold geode]

Nice, have something to pass me over during a car ride

[polar canyon]

I think all that ever deterred me was that I didn't like the psyspam mons before and I like lunala

[willow vault]

Lunala gets expanding force?

[rustic mountain]

yea

[polar canyon]

Yeah

[willow vault]

I thought that was a dusk mane thing?

[polar canyon]

Both

[rustic mountain]

nope dusk mane just sucks so u need e force

[willow vault]

Oh

Ok then

[polar canyon]

I wonder what item if I'm not running herb meteor beam

[willow vault]

If it’s calm mind, covert cloak can be nice

[rustic mountain]

cm lunala has been popping up, tera fairy

[polar canyon]

Yeah I've heard

[rustic mountain]

moonblast/moongeist/cm/protect

[torn parrot]

I love these commentators but sometimes their jokes make me cringe just a little bit

[polar canyon]

Scream tail let's go

[willow vault]

Tera fairy is the best

[rustic mountain]

w/ leftovers

[rustic mountain]

a bit? for me its a lot

[bold geode]

@solid frigate TERAPAAAAA

[rustic mountain]

its a lot of dead time tho in between, they r trying

[polar canyon]

I think I can probably swap protect for eforce without a lot of trouble right?

[rustic mountain]

but yea i cant help sometimes its just too much

[polar canyon]

I like how they always bring notes and stuff

[rustic mountain]

no protect is part of the cm set, kinda shit to not be able to wen u want to reposition

[polar canyon]

I see

[rustic mountain]

if u want e force jus go more instant offense

[polar canyon]

Right

I'd do life orb if it didn't ruin shadow shield

[rustic mountain]

moongeist/meteor beam/e force/protect tr or wide guard depending on team comp

[polar canyon]

Thing is idk if I want meteor beam

[rustic mountain]

then e force/moongeist/protect or wide guard and tr

[polar canyon]

One miss or protect and you lose that coverage vs incineroar and such

[torn parrot]

It’s actually a lot it’s a lot of cringe

[rustic mountain]

[torn parrot]

It’s very annoying to fight scream tail

[rustic mountain]

oh antonio won b4

[polar canyon]

Oof I wanna root for my representation but it's a bad mu

[bold geode]

Chance to remove Incineroar that you otherwise are not that good against? Why not lol

[rustic mountain]

wasnt this the dude that ran wolfeys team back?

[bold geode]

Ye

[polar canyon]

Is that good or bad

[rustic mountain]

thats jus the fact

up to u whether u wanna think if its good or bad

[polar canyon]

Oh the twitch stream died

[foggy lodge]

Did the stream died?

[rustic mountain]

yes

[polar canyon]

Where are you guys watching?

[rustic mountain]

yt

[torn parrot]

There’s only one timeline where wolfey wins worlds

He simply gains magical powers when he plays perish song

[polar canyon]

I'll just watch more later

[rustic mountain]

wolfeys won worlds w/o perish tho

[tranquil kraken]

small indie company

i literally just tuned in and it dies

[rustic mountain]

oh so thats why it died

[tranquil kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kazuma-kiryu-pissed-off-gif-14586175

[rustic mountain]

good job ili

[polar canyon]

Tbh it's usually a twitch issue I think

[tranquil kraken]

yt is down too

[rustic mountain]

ye

[polar canyon]

Oh yeah it's a pokemon issue then

[rustic mountain]

[polar canyon]

Small indie company we gotta respect that they tried at least

[rustic mountain]

my question is

do they make the players stop playing now

[polar canyon]

It's probably still recorded right

[tranquil kraken]

hahaha that would be so good

[rustic mountain]

not for them lmao

[tranquil kraken]

technical difficulties. pls stop

[polar canyon]

They turn off the timer

I wanna see what miraidon switched into

[torn parrot]

Oh I was so confused why my screen froze

[rustic mountain]

yea

[tranquil kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-beam-freeze-snowgrave-pokemon-vgc-gif-13082897095560858813

[rustic mountain]

if i reclick the stream it jus plays 5 seconds b4 it freezes

and then freezes again

[tranquil kraken]

same here

[polar canyon]

Alright be back later lol

[rustic mountain]

no

[foggy lodge]

Well it just died

lmao

[torn parrot]

Must have been an ice beam

[rustic mountain]

[next stump]

i just left the venue otherwise i could tell you what happened hahaha

[calm gulch]

is the stream lagging?

[next stump]

probably similar power outage

[rustic mountain]

damn

enjoy nola

[rustic mountain]

it cut out

on twitch and yt

[polar canyon]

Hey Trainers, we're experiencing some technical difficulties and will be back online shortly. Thank you for your patience.

Thanks pokemon company

[calm gulch]

i see, thanks

[willow vault]

The Pokemon company would never say thanks, inaccuracies

[gentle crag]

crephace has given 1 Gen Rep to campfire__

[polar canyon]

Thanks

[willow vault]

Bruhhh

[balmy glen]

Man Antonio should’ve tera Terapagos and scored hands and got a free calm mind he could’ve been in such a better spot than he is now on that turn

[bold geode]

Oh ok so it ain't just me

[foggy lodge]

Another unite caster tripped with the cable?

[rustic mountain]

no, it is

[bold geode]

Who unplugged the WiFi damn it

[rustic mountain]

mavs also automatically forfeited g2 for ball tampering sorry

[bold geode]

Oh fuck you

[upbeat quail]

Wo-Chien did it

[rustic mountain]

[torn parrot]

Is it like flickering for you guys too?

[rustic mountain]

the stream jus died for me

[foggy lodge]

So how is your day going guys

[tranquil kraken]

its working for me unless its a replay

[torn parrot]

It’s back for me I think

[tranquil kraken]

antonio down to terapagos only

[torn parrot]

Bout to make sum dinner

[rustic mountain]

oh they jus skipped ahead ig?

[tranquil kraken]

ye kept playing looks like

[rustic mountain]

we come back and its joever

[molten oasis]

So joever

[rustic mountain]

[polar canyon]

I want to know how he did it man

[rustic mountain]

too bad

[polar canyon]

Working around the rilla

[bold geode]

Lol

[polar canyon]

With just hands and farig

[molten oasis]

Hands is strong

[foggy lodge]

wtf the whole team died

[rustic mountain]

"you can atleast see how this ability works"

[foggy lodge]

Miraidon was here

[molten oasis]

LOL

yea hands gets an ability now with miraidon being everywhere

[rustic mountain]

teras
dies

[willow vault]

Anyone know what happened game 1?

[rustic mountain]

[rustic mountain]

nope

[molten oasis]

Idk

[willow vault]

Damn

[foggy lodge]

I suppose

[foggy lodge]

He pinned Urshifu slot with psychic noise

[molten oasis]

Is Wolfe still in

[willow vault]

Oh we got replay

[foggy lodge]

And Amoonguss died

[willow vault]

No

[molten oasis]

Rip

Probably won’t end up seeing him then lol

[rustic mountain]

🫡

[willow vault]

When was Wolfe eliminated anyone know?

[rustic mountain]

so antonio misplayed shroom and terapagos under tr and got rolled

damn

[molten oasis]

Saw Moxie and Spragles at least so, not complaining

[willow vault]

That’s cool

You get a photo?

[molten oasis]

Yep

[willow vault]

Let’s go, that’s epic

[torn parrot]

Did we only ever seen one wolfey game?

[molten oasis]

I believe so

[willow vault]

Set 4 day 1

[torn parrot]

Oh well

[balmy glen]

U didn’t see me though

the future goat frfr

jp lmao

[rustic mountain]

this seems tough for antonio

[molten oasis]

We got amoonguss

In amoonguss we trust

[rustic mountain]

ya its not over by any means

jus a lot of offense he has to endure

[molten oasis]

That’s been a common occurrence today lol

[rustic mountain]

oof

not sure y he felt amoongus was so much more important there it wasnt threatening yan at all there

this is so joever

encore amoongus protect urshi

[torn parrot]

That was a pretty overwhelming slaughter

[rustic mountain]

then gg

[molten oasis]

Gg

[rustic mountain]

brutal mu for antonio

[torn parrot]

Gg

[molten oasis]

Great piloting from Yan

Rough mu as well even with rilla

[balmy glen]

No not really

it’s like

[molten oasis]

Think the hands and urshifu were kinda rough

[balmy glen]

40/60

he didn’t see much of his outs too

[molten oasis]

To take out

[rustic mountain]

i mean wen u get the t1 the way he did, its rough

nd yea he didnt play it that well either

[molten oasis]

Indeed

[rustic mountain]

i didnt see much of g1 but g2 he had a few mon choices and switches i didnt quite understand

[balmy glen]

Real

[rustic mountain]

i guess scream tail if no whims is a good call but he got 1 upped

[molten oasis]

Scream tail seemed useless

[rustic mountain]

it was

[graceful flare]

Why people rum whimsicott instead of torn on miraodkn team

[rustic mountain]

cant encore disable effectively w/ everything outspeeding u

[torn parrot]

Speed control kinda ruins the whole encore disable thing

[molten oasis]

Indeed

[rustic mountain]

offers different kind of prankster support outside of jus tw that it works well w/

[molten oasis]

Also

You won’t miss your moves, unlike torn

[torn parrot]

I imagine it’s nice to have against like raging bolt as well

[rustic mountain]

tru

[molten oasis]

Whims is good into rapid strike single strike and bolt

Really good typing rn

[rustic mountain]

so cir/csr and miraidon in top 4

[torn parrot]

Exciting stuff

[molten oasis]

Figures lol

[torn parrot]

I wonder what mon will come on top

[graceful flare]

Fell down the stairs as soon as u said that

[rustic mountain]

the sarcasm is strong here

[molten oasis]

Yea it’s so exiting trust

So excited to watch volt switch spam and astral barrage shenanigans

[dull haven]

O.o

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/linokisser-gif-reaction-tiktok-alien-gif-21656547

[rustic mountain]

burns is running cir again iirc idk wat the other top 8 team is

[molten oasis]

Oh we’re waiting on 1 more?

[rustic mountain]

so a chance at 2 cir in top 4 or w/e else hes facing

[rustic mountain]

yea we are doing every top 8, this was the 3rd one

[molten oasis]

And it’s just finals tomorrow right? Or is it top 4 and finals

[torn parrot]

DAAAAAANG we’re going to day 3?

I guess it makes sense

[rustic mountain]

finals 2mw

[molten oasis]

That’s every international

Finals is always on day 3

[torn parrot]

I forgot whoopsie

[molten oasis]

All good

[rustic mountain]

"i didnt think i would be the best csr or cir player so i didnt play them" good advice right there

[molten oasis]

I played with balance SD zacian for like an hour today and now I’m looking at this and going “man I wish I had this at NAIC” lol

[rustic mountain]

paid off for him

[molten oasis]

Me with Zac cuz ik I suck with the others

Gotta play with what’s comfortable

-although I need to play more restricteds

[rustic mountain]

yea if u arent gna b top 2-3 best in those archetypes at the tour, prolly not a good call to play w/ it

[molten oasis]

Yea

Didn’t like Mirai or CIR too much when I messed with them, just wasn’t feeling it

I like my fairies

[rustic mountain]

ditto in top 12

[molten oasis]

Yuh, wild

Kyogre is fun but ik im gonna be missing attacks

[rustic mountain]

iron hands had an insane conversion rate

[molten oasis]

Aaaand uh, fuck that

[rustic mountain]

amoongus too

[balmy glen]

Your names Zacians strongest warrior, are u running play rough

[molten oasis]

ok so, so

Origin pulse can miss both

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

Play rough can miss 1 target

[balmy glen]

A miss is a miss

[torn parrot]

I don’t get the logic of that

[molten oasis]

I’m tired

[rustic mountain]

nobody does

[molten oasis]

Ok, I regret what I said lol

[rustic mountain]

the fact u can hit both in rain > w/e zacian is doing

[molten oasis]

Looking at it now that was dumb and I totally forgot I use play rough

Murdering miraidon is fun

Assuming no Tera

[rustic mountain]

ill prolly be back on the zacian bandwagon wen double restricted hits

[molten oasis]

I think Zac gets stronger in double

[rustic mountain]

it does, but so does everything else

[molten oasis]

true, true

[rustic mountain]

i think zacian not havin to carry as much is a huge benefit tho

[molten oasis]

Yea Zac feels like, the same level as a standard non restricted legendary imo and not a restricted

[polar canyon]

He looks so young

[rustic mountain]

idt its that lvl its still better then a lot of other restricteds even after being gutted

[molten oasis]

Well yea

Still I’m picking zacian over, ice rider or miraidon

[torn parrot]

My friend once play roughed next to Chien Pao into a Miraidon that Terad into electric to tank the hit

and it just completely died in one hit no crit. I was so shocked I didn’t realized the true damage output of zacian until then

[molten oasis]

Dude hands is just like, hands is just back full force

Good I’m gonna play rough you and you’re gonna fucking die

[polar canyon]

Probably just me but being called the best ice rider player doesn't sound as impressive as some stuff other people have been called

[molten oasis]

LOL

[rustic mountain]

yea if ur +1 and have sword of ruin ur gna take a lot of kos, only thing is stuff like incin is everywhere

[foggy lodge]

How many attack boosts did it have?

[torn parrot]

+1

[foggy lodge]

Damn

[molten oasis]

That’s it’s main hinderance imo

[rustic mountain]

i tried pao/zacian rilla/incin/urshi/bolt early reg g it felt really hard to get wins and losses felt borderline unwinnable at times

[molten oasis]

Just, you’re weakness is the top used Mon and it fucking sucks

[polar canyon]

May have been nerfed but 150 atk is still a lot

[torn parrot]

True that
Every zacian team gotta have some way to counter him

[molten oasis]

Urshifu peli is quite consistent for handling incin

[rustic mountain]

not saying it has to be that team comp but a lot of teams have similar ones and do well

[molten oasis]

I think urshifu is a must

On zacian teams

[foggy lodge]

I have to test the team with Zacian and Umbreon

[polar canyon]

I wonder how many foreign names are being mispronounced today

[foggy lodge]

Maybe if i practice enough with it i can build my own Zacia team

[rustic mountain]

but zacian it feels like u gta position it so well that sometimes its really difficult or u lose too many resources wen u do. it doesnt have the same switch in and switch out potential it had in the past due to the nerfs

[molten oasis]

You right

[rustic mountain]

nd it doesnt have the snowball capabilties of cir/csr and miraidon

kyogre

[polar canyon]

It probably has cleanup potential still if you keep it in the back no?

[molten oasis]

Weaker than the top guys for sure

[bold geode]

Still got 130 miles before we get to first hotel

[polar canyon]

First?

[molten oasis]

It’s a clean up guy or a SD sweeper

[rustic mountain]

distinct disadvantage to never have ur restricted be able to exert immediate pressure on lead and strips ur team of versatility on wat it wants and can do

[molten oasis]

You have to have a very strong and consistent team behind it to get it working

[dull haven]

You headed to a tournament?

[bold geode]

Nah, tours are over after NAIC until Worlds iirc
Just vacation

[molten oasis]

I’ve kinda accepted I’m going to struggle with zacian but it has what it takes

[polar canyon]

Cool cool

[molten oasis]

I play well with my off meta picks

[dull haven]

Ahh! Well hope you have a good vacation!

[foggy lodge]

Anyways in which poke ball should i catch Terapagos?

[rustic mountain]

nd u gta know ur mus inside out. thats not a team where 1 mistake u usually can recover from. its very precise wat u wanna achieve/ especially the regidrago variants

[polar canyon]

Honestly why did you lock into zacian

Do you just like it?

[molten oasis]

Indeed

[molten oasis]

Favorite restricted, it’s typing and speed tier is worth considering

Didn’t like the others when testing

[polar canyon]

I don't really have a personal favorite

Probably solgaleo or terapagos

[molten oasis]

Zacian is also my third favorite Pokémon of all time

So, favoritism and I see potential in it

[rustic mountain]

groudon prolly would be my fav restricted cuz i love gen 3 and played ruby a lot but ogre isnt far behind

[polar canyon]

Do you not have a second favorite?

[rustic mountain]

havent used either yet this gen

[molten oasis]

Not really no

Again haven’t liked any other restricteds too much

I got bored of Mirai pretty fast

CIR is cool but I don’t really enjoy playing tr or feel comfortable piloting it

Don’t like playing zama where a Mon gets walled by ghost types

[bold geode]

Yeah
Even if it's a bit rough, it's a week away from life so

[molten oasis]

Like yes zacian struggles with fire and steel types but at least you still do decent damage into them since (unless incin) you’re usually +1

[rustic mountain]

damn aurelien kinda jus styled on burns

[molten oasis]

He’s a great player

[rustic mountain]

ik

[torn parrot]

I love both dogs
After I used both dogs i stopped being too interested in other legendaries

[rustic mountain]

so is burns

[molten oasis]

Dogs are my fav

I got a promo elite trainer box with Zac, 1 sec

[rustic mountain]

we need more dog legendaries

[molten oasis]

I want a cat legendary

[torn parrot]

There isssss

[rustic mountain]

suicune entei and raikou

are all feline based

[torn parrot]

Solgaleo

[molten oasis]

…they’re called the legendary dogs tho right???

[rustic mountain]

oh yea also that

[bold geode]

Okidogi: am I a joke to you?

[rustic mountain]

ppl call them that, they arent tho

[molten oasis]

Ok, cat legendsries that are strong in vgc

[rustic mountain]

lmfao tru i love okidogi

still need more

[bold geode]

Gimme a legendary monkey

[molten marsh]

Technically believe raikou, suicune and entei are called the legendary Beasts now

[rustic mountain]

entei and suicune both have been good in different formats

[torn parrot]

Wellll at least it has wide guard and trick room that’s pretty cool

[molten marsh]

After the original artist came out and said what they were actually based on

[molten oasis]

Cool box

[molten oasis]

Oh-

I forgot entei exists lol

[molten marsh]

Poor Entei

[molten oasis]

Cool coin too

[rustic mountain]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMJ69PgUEAAZI9u?format=jpg&name=medium

found the quote

[charred saddle]

just when justin's urshifu cant move due to para

both of my mon decided to follow suit

mother fucker

[molten oasis]

Oh I see

You shouldn’t be showing that here

[dull haven]

Do not flex hacked pokemon

[torn parrot]

Wtf

[graceful flare]

Is it not allowed?

[molten oasis]

Correct

[torn parrot]

I mean you hacked it

[foggy lodge]

Didn't Raikou end like top 4 in 2022 in worlds or something like that?

[graceful flare]

I didn't hack it

[torn parrot]

It was hacked by someone

[graceful flare]

I got it from takemi lab

[molten oasis]

Hacks

[rustic mountain]

it did really well i think yea, idk bout top 4 tho

[molten oasis]

Shiny koraidon is impossible

[dull haven]

No it is not allowed and you might want to release it

[graceful flare]

There's union circles on a channel called takemi lab that have unreleased shinies and I got one there so I didn't hack it

[torn parrot]

im sure you didn’t personally hack it

[molten oasis]

Ok, you still need to get rid of it and don’t show that off here

[graceful flare]

I just thought it was cool

[rustic mountain]

all different restricteds in top 4, cir/csr/terapagos/miraidon

old guard and new guard

except both are new

[molten oasis]

I hope miraidon wins

[torn parrot]

I like that it’s not just one restricted who made it to the top

[molten oasis]

Don’t really wanna see a CIR and CSR finals again

[torn parrot]

That sound really boring

[rustic mountain]

5 different restricted in top 8

[torn parrot]

oml

[rustic mountain]

pretty good tbh

[dull haven]

Those are hacked, and if you joined tht union circle... do know that GF does monitor what people do in thhem, so when ban waves happen, those are usually the people that lose access to online capabilities. So tldr, don't join UCs of people you don't know/don't trust

[graceful flare]

I won't again but pls don't put me on the blacklist I don't gen pokemon plus the koraidon gives an error if trued to trade

[rustic mountain]

hence y she said release it

[dull haven]

Stop talking about it and release it. You literally endager your account by having that one

[graceful flare]

Ok then

Hope an actual event comes soon then

[dull haven]

Also, hi tree!

[torn parrot]

I’m sure you’ll get one next year 👍 from gamefreak

[rustic mountain]

hey khuja

[torn parrot]

Or this year

maybe even after worlds

[rustic mountain]

yea id guess later this year for the box legends

havent gotten too many good events for sv so far

[charred saddle]

not the honse + picasso

[molten oasis]

Hell nah

[tranquil kraken]

porygon2

[rustic mountain]

ew

we had like 2 of those in swsh

[foggy lodge]

true lol

[rustic mountain]

nd its not even shiny

[foggy lodge]

But this one has a new ribbon!!

[dull haven]

Hihi ili lol

[tranquil kraken]

Heya

The best event was Charcadet don’t @ me

[rustic mountain]

@tranquil kraken

the opinion
the ping

[tranquil kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/ace-ace-attorney-lawyer-idc-i-dont-care-gif-8858582177130019606

[graceful flare]

Sjoukd I pair miraidok with torn bc I want to use sash on shifu

[tranquil kraken]

are there still matches coming

they talk alot

[torn parrot]

Righttttt NOW

[polar canyon]

How many of you guys play violet and have a koraidon?

Just wondering

Not looking good for me on the trading part

[dull haven]

I play violet, my husband has Scarlet, so I have access to both games lol

[tranquil kraken]

Violet is my main and I only have 3 Koraidon

[polar canyon]

No chance your husband happens to have an extra koraidon right?

Just like laying around

[dull haven]

An extra, no sadly

[tranquil kraken]

Best to open a #1112832566261731328 and be patient tbh

[torn parrot]

Wow Miraidon is down

Wild

Yawn weeeens

[balmy glen]

I don’t understand this game

[bold geode]

I'm in New Mexico now chat

Still like 70 miles to go for today

[polar canyon]

Nvm found one lol

Nice

[balmy glen]

Why does he not lead rilla every time

I’m so confused

[polar canyon]

Maybe he expects adaptation from the other side

That one looked pretty bad

[torn parrot]

I’m so ready for dinner

[polar canyon]

Oooh I'm ordering a burrito for dinner today

Cant wait

Mexican food and cart teambuilding night

[torn parrot]

I need an anime to watch while I eat

[polar canyon]

Dungeon meshi

[torn parrot]

Oh yeah Iv seen that I like it

[polar canyon]

I love it

I just never remember to watch shows when I'm free

I think I'll watch more when naic is over

I'm ngl I'm not hoping Patrick makes it just because of that wo-chien game

Oh

Just remembered I also need to trade for raging bolt

[next stump]

so crazy that just a dude is in finals of an IC again

I love this game

[bold geode]

WE FUCKING MADE IT

[molten oasis]

?

[bold geode]

I arrived at my destination

[molten oasis]

Oh nice

[graceful flare]

How do u use incin

[molten oasis]

I’m not even gonna bother I hate incin

[graceful flare]

Knocking out all the pokemon is the main objective and then switching incin in and out as much as possible is a side quest?

So intimidate fake out then parting shot?

That all?

[bold geode]

Yeah bro
Finally the 130 mile stretch from earlier ended (keep in mind that was after basically crossing Texas)

[molten oasis]

Lol

[bold geode]

And yes
TEXAS IS FUCKING HUGE

[polar canyon]

You see it's easier to take out the other team when your team isn't taken out

And incineroar helps greatly and having your team not taken out

That's the very boiled down explanation

[bold geode]

Oh Lord my back feels so messed up rn lmao

What sitting for 130-150 miles straight can do to a mfer

[cyan smelt]

drago since your zacian is tera dragon now have you tried dragon cheer with it

or would that not work without scope lens

[chrome knot]

@mighty stump hosted a cute watchparty @ my house today wanna show up for championship sunday

[molten oasis]

No

Not doing that

Maybe as a meme team

[smoky hawk]

So... I gotta address the copperajah in the room

This is not some new observation, but I've noticed a huge portion of male pokemon players choose female characters for their game

Why? It's a bit creepy imo

[molten oasis]

Idk

Why are you bringing it up?

[chrome knot]

whys it creepy ?

[smoky hawk]

Because the majority of NAIC players today did that

[cyan smelt]

it's because the female characters have better style options, nothing more to it

[molten oasis]

True

[chrome knot]

they dont use their own switches?

on stream

[next stump]

yeah they’re playing on tournament switches

[molten oasis]

Oh really? I didn’t know that

[next stump]

you used to have your own switch up there but not lately

[chrome knot]

@next stump fly to windsor

[next stump]

fly down to a midwest regional next year 🙂

[chrome knot]

i will

[next stump]

they’re announcing some regional locations tomorrow, I can’t wait

hopefully they don’t suck

[chrome knot]

yah ill prob be planning my year depending on where the first handful are

[smoky hawk]

I had no idea

[smoky hawk]

So, they're using their own team through a rental code?

[next stump]

yep

[smoky hawk]

I didn't know that

[next stump]

that’s why it usually says Player 1 and Player 2

just super generic names

[mighty stump]

@hasty night Edit the rental to fit the format of the rest of the channel or it will be removed

You have 4 hours

-remindme 4h check rental

[gentle crag]

Set a reminder in 4 hours from now (<t:1717913396:f>)
View reminders with the reminders command

[chrome knot]

tofu tofuuuu

[finite smelt]

Does anyone have some good resources for to learn? I am new to it and have been going over smogon but was hoping there are more learning tools to take advantage of.

[next stump]

are you looking to learn single or double battles?

[finite smelt]

Atm most likely doubles for vgc

I’ve been playing on showdown but it’s just a high information curve I’m struggling

[mighty stump]

i will sho up in spirit

[chrome knot]

yay !

[mighty stump]

I was staying over at my partners house today

and I was falling asleep on the couch watching NAIC

Her dog was keeping me company

as I was falling asleep the dog, a Pomeranian, thumped my chest

and I nearly threw the dog across the room

[chrome knot]

LOL

[mighty stump]

I was so surprised

[chrome knot]

thumpy

[mighty stump]

Cause I was like half conscious

[polar canyon]

Finally got the trade I wanted in order to build the team I want on cart

Now I have a 猛雷鼓

I could only find a Chinese raging bolt

[cyan smelt]

was it from this server

[polar canyon]

Ye

[cyan smelt]

cool

[mighty stump]

Why do you want a CN Raging Bolt

[smoky hawk]

Why do the smaller dogs have the bigger personalities?

[polar canyon]

It's a little weird to have a different language one but it does work the same

[cyan smelt]

the moves are all in english right

[mighty stump]

Individual basis, really

[polar canyon]

Because it's the first I could find

For a trade I can get reasonably

[mighty stump]

Smaller dogs also tend to be more poorly trained

But that’s anecdotal

[rustic mountain]

jus caught the top 4 matches man

some good ass sets

[chrome knot]

Aurelien is the goat

[rustic mountain]

he adjusted insanely well, especially vs a player of edus caliber

[chrome knot]

he shut that shit DOWN after game 1

[rustic mountain]

i think edu shouldve thought of leaving csr on the bench in g3

obviously hes a world champion so not gna say thats right but yea

i think aurelien figured out the pins really well in g2

[dapper crag]

Ability: Armor Tail

Priority moves used by opposing Pokemon targeting this Pokemon or its allies are prevented from having an effect.

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[rustic mountain]

nd for g3 it was gna b tough for edu to capitalize based off that

he realized grimm was jus dead weight

[chrome knot]

i think bringing csr into a terapagos mu is throwing tbf

esp without draining kiss

you have the play the longer styled cycle mu

[rustic mountain]

both top 4s coming back from down 0-1 was cool

[rustic mountain]

yea this is the big difference for me

if its that set sure u can maybe justify otherwise idk it just seems tough

[chrome knot]

booster spe flutter also punishes tho

[rustic mountain]

yea

[chrome knot]

makes shifu harder to pilot in that scenario obv

[rustic mountain]

even in g2, he eliminated the flutter but got tera baited and then chi yu terapagos just cleaned

[chrome knot]

yah

kinda why i hate smeargle NGL

unrelated obv but it felt kinda meh

[rustic mountain]

it did not feel good wen he brought it

[mighty stump]

Whos the finalists

I mean what Restricteds

[chrome knot]

Aurelien vs Patrick Connors

[rustic mountain]

aurelien vs connor

[chrome knot]

Terapagos vs CIR

[rustic mountain]

oh patrick right

[mighty stump]

Aurelien hitting another final

[chrome knot]

Aurelien is so fucking good

[mighty stump]

What sort of Pagos?

HO?

[rustic mountain]

hes insanely consistent, i think he might pull thru

[chrome knot]

ho

[mighty stump]

or CM?

HO

[rustic mountain]

specs

[mighty stump]

Okay

[chrome knot]

ill send both pastes

[mighty stump]

Aurelien needs to win

So my prediction is correct

[rustic mountain]

wat was ur prediction

[mighty stump]

I said either Cloak CSR or HOPagos was gonna win NAIC

[chrome knot]

https://pokepast.es/83f386c2a0bcfc33

https://pokepast.es/5c86fff6f41912c8

[rustic mountain]

oh right

[mighty stump]

Oh

Soula has the better MU

[chrome knot]

yeahh

cir gets eaten up you have to play so carefully here

[rustic mountain]

yea

i think b/w the mu and exp, aurelien has it

i also picked edu to win tho so

[mighty stump]

Let Aurelien Soula win so my meta predictions have been perfect throughout Reg G

[rustic mountain]

[rustic mountain]

in this case i hope he loses

[mighty stump]

Wow

[rustic mountain]

jkin lmao

[mighty stump]

Woowww

[rustic mountain]

nah he deserves it im rooting for em fr

[mighty stump]

I hope a Terapagos Hyper Beams your window

[rustic mountain]

[chrome knot]

i had aurelien on my favourited players list yippie

[rustic mountain]

nice

hes been doin well for awhile now it seems like, the breakthru win seems likely

[chrome knot]

@mighty stump what if i were this bunny

[polar canyon]

I'm ngl I don't really enjoy either of these teams after seeing other diverse cool ones being used

Safety goggles urshifu is cool tho

Idk why I don't see more people using it

[rustic mountain]

it was ran a bit in reg d

the meta jus hasnt called for it

[rustic mountain]

guy who got top 8 w/ overqwil: what more do u want from me

[cyan smelt]

overqwil?

[rustic mountain]

ye

[molten oasis]

How goes it

[cyan smelt]

crazy

[rustic mountain]

ik lmao

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 904: Overqwil

Types

Dark/Poison

Abilities

Poison Point, Swift Swim, Intimidate (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

85/115/95/65/65/85

Total

510

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[dawn crown]

I love that Conerstone Ogerpon is finally getting the love it deserves

[mighty stump]

I don’t like rabbits

Lol

[chrome knot]

:(

[mighty stump]

Divas

Worst blood draws of my life

[solid frigate]

Ok that Terapagos Rental Team

does not follow the format-

[cyan smelt]

Tofu already pinged them about it

[solid frigate]

also Stonejurner? Huh????

[cyan smelt]

Idk

Also I'd like to see the gxe on that team

[polar canyon]

Truly looks like one of the teams of all time

[mighty stump]

They have 4 hours cause it’s just egregious

[polar canyon]

Lum berry on tera grass ceruledge

What is it for

Grimm twave?

[solid frigate]

Swagger Torn??

[chrome knot]

the more you look the worse it gets

[polar canyon]

Oh it's for the swagger

[cyan smelt]

Swagger torn I presume is for own tempo tinkaton

And the ceruledge ig

[solid frigate]

i beat that Strat before

[polar canyon]

And for the lum berry ceruledge

It just doesn't sound very good

But it's what they're doing

Terapagos looks like it's only there so they have a restricted

[mighty stump]

I also don’t see the Top 500

Like

558 isn’t that

[solid frigate]

also

One taunt on the Torn

[mighty stump]

Im more annoyed about the formatting

[cyan smelt]

That team would struggle against rain

[mighty stump]

I don’t care what it is

Are people this bad at inference

Does observational skill not exist anymore

[solid frigate]

apparently

[polar canyon]

I don't judge about that

[mighty stump]

I do

Lol

[polar canyon]

I'm not very attentive myself

[mighty stump]

World would be a better place if people were more observant and could actually infer information

[polar canyon]

Well don't act like I don't try

[cyan smelt]

If I decide to post my rental I'll make sure to check the other posts in rental first

[mighty stump]

If you’re taking it personally that’s not on me

[cyan smelt]

But yeah 558 is not top 500 lol

[polar canyon]

I'll give them the benefit of doubt and assume they took the screenshot before hitting top 500

[cyan smelt]

But they said top 500 in 25 games and the screenshot shows 18w 7l

[polar canyon]

Nvm then

[mighty stump]

I’d give them benefit of doubt if they didnt screenshot anything

[chrome knot]

lmao

[mighty stump]

But this is just like

[polar canyon]

Incorrect

[mighty stump]

Yes

Exactly

[solid frigate]

i might grind SV with my turtle Team

[cyan smelt]

Tortol

[polar canyon]

Do it

[solid frigate]

Cresselia Version or Archaludon Version?

[polar canyon]

I wanna know what the meta is on cart since it's never exactly the same as vgc showdown

Even if just slightly different

With usage stats and stuff

[mighty stump]

Build a solid team, answer the regular archetypes

[polar canyon]

Will do

[mighty stump]

It’s never too far off

[chrome knot]

tofu

[mighty stump]

wat

[chrome knot]

i made new list of signatures to collect now it time for regional scavenger hunt next season

[mighty stump]

How fun

[solid frigate]

rn Rank 8

[chrome knot]

yibbie

im good at annoying people

[polar canyon]

Hope I'm on the list

[polar canyon]

That was fast

Top 10 under 5 minutes

Can you teach me that trick

[solid frigate]

i was rank 8 in SV-

i'm not master ball yet

[polar canyon]

Top 10 and not even master ball? Crazy

[solid frigate]

[polar canyon]

Remembering when I got to master rank for the first time

It felt like such an accomplishment

[chrome knot]

why would you be

[solid frigate]

+2 Pagos lmao time to murder

[cyan smelt]

scary

[solid frigate]

thank god Amoonguss Survived the dragon energy

[gentle crag]

morrispxg456 has given 1 Gen Rep to kal0sunleashed

[cyan smelt]

amogus

[solid frigate]

bruh

[rustic mountain]

rnt u supposed to like all animals

[solid frigate]

welp Caly Ice

[cyan smelt]

uh oh

[solid frigate]

honestly Caly Ice is my 3rd worst MU for my team,but i kinda trying to get the hang of it

[molten oasis]

Gotta play the mu ti learn and figure it out

[solid frigate]

true,but i think i can manage it,just need to trust my decision making

should've Starstorm it-

[cyan smelt]

do you have meteor beam on your terapagos

oh wait it's calm mind

[solid frigate]

yeah Caly Ice Survived the Overheat-

[cyan smelt]

caly ice is ridiculously bulky

[solid frigate]

252 SpA Beads of Ruin Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Calyrex-Ice: 246-290 (118.8 - 140%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Yeah its more bulky than this

[cyan smelt]

it might have some sp def investment then

[solid frigate]

yeah

[cyan smelt]

have you come across any miraidons yet

[polar canyon]

Do you know what item it was?

Could just be av

[solid frigate]

i can't confirm

[cyan smelt]

did it set up tr

[solid frigate]

no

[cyan smelt]

yeah could've been av

[solid frigate]

my plays have gone worse

[cyan smelt]

don't tilt

[solid frigate]

bro encored into my Urshifu

Which is Scarf btw

[bold geode]

@mighty stump grind never stops

[cyan smelt]

encore whimsicott?

[solid frigate]

its everywhere-

[rustic mountain]

except wen it does

[cyan smelt]

yeah i'm guessing that miraidon team is pretty popular

[bold geode]

Rate my setup 1-10

[cyan smelt]

can i give your setup a 0

[bold geode]

Lmao

We do what we gotta do fam

Gotta get those dubs

[cyan smelt]

gl grinding

[bold geode]

Bro I can't even see shit

[cyan smelt]

why not play handheld

[solid frigate]

bro ragequit after my 3rd calm Mind

[cyan smelt]

why you need 3 calm minds lol

[solid frigate]

just to flex on them

[cyan smelt]

don't flex just finish them

[solid frigate]

i was winning anyways

i still have 4 mons lol

[bold geode]

Cuz idfk lol

[cyan smelt]

handheld would be more comfortable than whatever that is lol

[solid frigate]

convert Monke into Handheld user

[patent marsh]

@mighty stump pain rank 5(union lv40) the boss can still drop 2 mats so you need to do 3 or more bosses just for the latest ascension 💀

[solid frigate]

POV:Monke

[bold geode]

First match rage quit lfg

[bold geode]

Fuck you

[solid frigate]

[cyan smelt]

monke is the top panel

[bold geode]

Imagine I actually get high rankings while in a hotel

[cyan smelt]

how'd they even let you connect your switch to hotel wifi

[solid frigate]

hotel wifi is garbo

[bold geode]

Idfk

I just know I'm on it

[cyan smelt]

imagine if they paired up monke and torrent

[solid frigate]

oh god no

[drowsy spear]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2139743870

seeing Electabuzz kinda threw me off, such a weird team for me and my bugs to come across..

[cyan smelt]

um ackshually iron moth is fire/poison 🤓

[solid frigate]

but legit wtf is that team

[bold geode]

2-0 rn lol

[drowsy spear]

ehhh game freak wont give me a legendary bug mon so iron moth will take that place 😬

[solid frigate]

bug catcher moment

[drowsy spear]

its a bug based team i built myself through countless ranked battles..

[solid frigate]

but honestly

i need a breather

[drowsy spear]

i havent faced many miradon teams yet to come up with ways to out strategize it but for the other restricted mons we have no problem..

[strange fjord]

How many battles have you done?

[solid frigate]

Someone gimme a fly swatter

[willow vault]

I sure do love not being able to sleep

[solid frigate]

F

[willow vault]

I was throwing up all morning, it felt so awful and now I’m dead tired and can’t fall asleep either, sad situation that

Anyways, time to get back to playing Kyogre

[solid frigate]

damn-

[drowsy spear]

i just started playing on showdown tonight and this is my third game.

and in scarlet im a master ranked player.. well still ultra ball now since i only played a couple games since the restricted season started. i dont have a restricted so i dont have much motivation to play much this season.. i record my battles though.

[drowsy spear]

lol

[strange fjord]

As long as you're enjoying battling with the team you've made.

That's what's important

[drowsy spear]

exactly! i spent most time shiny hunting for certain marks.. building teams is the easy and fast part

[solid frigate]

but without a restricted is kinda bummed consider Bugs aren't the best types in here

[drowsy spear]

ehhh i wouldnt say that.. they are actually good against most of the meta mons lol

well my bugs are..

[willow vault]

What are the bugs?

[cyan smelt]

kleavor, volbeat, slither wing, iron moth, frosmoth and heracross

[willow vault]

Interesting

I like it

[solid frigate]

youngster joey be like

[drowsy spear]

i use different sets because they all have their own roles but when put together they tend to catch alot of folks off guard

[willow vault]

fair, just use what you want if your playing for the fun of the game

I figured out why Maushold isn't popular anymore https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reggbo3-2139760071-zwcq4gqxcalls59qcnk4ikay4l0jdmypw

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hoi Nova

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Why did I Tera there was no reason too

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how goes?

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Also Hi Nova

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good

[drowsy spear]

as always. i played one trainer and left their chein pao on the field so my kleavor could take advantage and wipe out their team.. one of the funniest game ever lol

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Nice

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How are you?

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doing good :)

hbu?
any new vgc ideas or refining old ones?

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Refining an old one, but not great been very sick overnight so feel terrible, but have to move on it happens

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yea u really need to get over that

(kidding)

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Yessir 🫡

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lol

feel better

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Thank you

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try using Archaludon with Terapagos

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Oh, very nice

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https://pokebin.com/7afbef975bf7df8e

Basically reviving my Reg F Team

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I’m assuming that amoongus is the fighting type endurance policy

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tho i am torn on which one should i use,Cress or Archa

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My tier list of the best paradox pokemon

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Design wise or gameplay wise lol

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Iron Thorns:i want to die