Av shifu, that’s cool
#competitive_discussion
molten oasis
little plank
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2139111028-gh1yh3j7h4szous1uudx0z8oiogw2wdpw dondozo is just an animal even at fairly high elo lol
shut schooner
How can you even decorate opponents pokemon on accident should only be Allys
And why does it start on the opposing pokemon and you have to actively click down
solid frigate
Follow Me
Follow Me redirects Decorate
so Imagine Ogerpon Redirected Decorate to it
yep its gonna be a nuke
cyan smelt
this is why coaching is better than decorate because it doesn't get redirected
solid frigate
yep
craggy dagger
this is why you don’t run either move
chrome knot
@craggy dagger yo serious this time guess what
craggy dagger
chrome knot
silly flirty bean :v
craggy dagger
@graceful flare
you asked for it
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2139167604
lethal zinc
You did it. 
limpid jewel
What's a good name for a female Exeggutor
autumn vault
Nice, you tried your best, thats what matters most
chrome knot
only cause you gave me the opportunity
first one you went at it second one was definitely an invitation 
craggy dagger
first one you went at it second one was definitely an invitation <a:NekoLaugh:67...
yep-
chrome knot
which came shockingly quick makes me believe thats something youve thought abt 
abstract grail
Hello everyone it's me again! You're probably not favorite learning beginner! So- I tried listening to feedback on my last time, and so I went to the drawing board for the past couple of days and came up with this! This seem better then my last one or-? I toyed around with alot of stuff, and so far this one's felt pretty decent to use all things considered imo.
Feedback appreciated for learning purposes as always
I ended up completely dropping the trick room, wich was some really good advice people were giving me, and I think it's working for the better so far! Tailwind Kommo-oh has been alot better and with clefairy support he puts in alot of work, allowing the others to pick off anything. And Zacian is Zacian so he's goo
mighty stump
Encore on Whimsicott, if not Fake Tears.
Moonblast over Gleam
As a solo StAB, Knock Off is better for Incineroar
Your Incineroar is also wasting EVs
abstract grail
My incins using the EV set torrent recommended I bealive.
abstract grail
Encore on Whimsicott, if not Fake Tears.
Moonblast over Gleam
I was considering debating between fake tears and encore not sure wich for this team
So far I'm having SO much fun with this team though zacians so cool.
mighty stump
Encore is the largest valkue due to wider variety of application.
cyan smelt
zacian should be tera ground to deal with mirai and chi-yu
mighty stump
Ehhh
Tera wise your options are Ghost/Water, one to avoid FO and the other because its just good defensively
Tera Ground is only if you don't have Speed control. You naturally outspeed Miraidon
Stellar Tera is also really good.
mighty stump
If it's cloak it should be Dark
abstract grail
Hm? Why's that?
cyan smelt
prevent taunt
abstract grail
Oh true
cyan smelt
or any prankster moves like encore as well for the mirror
mighty stump
^
abstract grail
Ye
cyan smelt
tofu, what are your thoughts on whirlwind ting lu to deal with caly-s clef?
mighty stump
Mm
craggy dagger
which came shockingly quick makes me believe thats something youve thought abt <...
no-
it came to me at that moment 
mighty stump
tofu, what are your thoughts on whirlwind ting lu to deal with caly-s clef?
Im pretty sure its kinda low value
craggy dagger
<@1239617549101174804>
you asked for it
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen...
tofu i’m going insane help
mighty stump
Unless im missing that whirlwind cant be redirected
cyan smelt
yeah it can be
craggy dagger
scope lens dragon cheer tera dragon sniper inteleon
it’s mostly something i kinda made for myself
mighty stump
NAIC Day 2 today
abstract grail
I switched around some teras and moves and I think it looks generally better now. The only issue I have consistently is dealing with Miraidons with my teams current comp, and also due to general skill issue.
Should be abit better (for somereason zacian had a really shit nature before idk what I was smoking.)
I think If I was using this in an actual event or something probobally drop Komm-o for Ursaluna, or H-Arcanine. Really just something to help out against Tera electric miraidons, but I like it I think.
strange fjord
So I found someone who brought Munchlax to NAIC
they didn't do so well obv but their team is uhhh
just check out the pokepaste https://pokepast.es/5bdb3e9fb9d79706
I really hope that 1 win was an actual win and not a no show lol
strange fjord
Imagine losing to that, it would feel so bad.
Conversely, winning with that would be sooo funny
abstract grail
Couldn't even be mad, I'd have to simply accept what rng decided.
It's simply a difference of skill
strange fjord
abstract grail
Honestly the hp stat doesn't even matter if you just don't get hit smh
Wake up to the truth 🗣🔥
strange fjord
-Shedinja probably
Oh before I forget. Roar Duraludon/Archludon with Stalwart can't br redirected to stop set up Pokemon. Shame that Duraludon isn't great and Stamina is better on Archludon
Not to mention the terrible Sp. Def
rustic mountain
solid frigate
also i think Archaludon can make my team a bit more offensive from the cress version
mighty stump
I don’t think its right to outright dismiss certain options if you have valid justification
Innovation is the name of the game for Reg G i suppose
It’s been pretty diverse in techs
solid frigate
the switch is not permanent,its still in my backup
mighty stump
@next stump IS THAT WORLDS INVITEE DILLON MLBD
craggy dagger
cyan smelt
i was just watching a match and saw someone land 3 fissures in it
solid frigate
i was just watching a match and saw someone land 3 fissures in it
3????
cyan smelt
yep
solid frigate
How lucky is that guy
cyan smelt
so lucky
autumn vault
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2139238496 I love sweeping Zacian Players
I also noticed on my team that i have 0 counterplay to pelipper
https://pokepast.es/5face3fc22bacdd0 Any opinions on this?
Yes i'm aware i only have 1 spore switch in
solid frigate
my Amoonguss:
cyan smelt
amogus
dull ibex
hello
solid frigate
hoi
dull ibex
sup
dull ibex
im alr
solid frigate
cool
cyan smelt
Why are you ultimate Mirai hater now
solid frigate
Why are you ultimate Mirai hater now
what is Zekrom's Typing-
solid frigate
i mean-
timber falcon
It outclassed my favourite legend
ofc it did lol
solid frigate
do you think i hate Dragapult when its better than Giratina
cyan smelt
Miraidon outclasses a lot of legends
autumn vault
Miraidon outclasses a lot of legends
Raging Bolt is one of the very few who wasn't outclassed by a mon who is better with the same typing
autumn vault
do you think i hate Dragapult when its better than Giratina
To be fair they do have different roles
solid frigate
To be fair they do have different roles
Miraidon and Zekrom are only the same by typing,but very different roles as well
autumn vault
Zekrom tries to achieve what miraidon does without set up
molten oasis
solid frigate
Zekrom is a Self sustain Physical Attacker
Miraidon is a Special Attacker-
its already different from the start
molten oasis
Miraidon isn’t countered by rilla
mighty stump
We really throwing around the word counter huh
molten oasis
Yea they like the word counter a lot
autumn vault
Let me word it out better: Doesn't get it's day ruined a lot when Rillaboom enters the field
Miraidon is still a force to be reckoned with
solid frigate
Yea they like the word counter a lot
i was just saying Miraidon and Zekrom are different
mighty stump
IS THAT TOP 50% NAIC COMPETITOR DRAGO
molten oasis
autumn vault
That also isn't countered by a monkey
Saying this is like saying a giant catfish is countered by a small ass crow
(Dongiri and Murkrow)
Yes i brought Drago PTSD from Reg A
I am aware
autumn vault
That also does a ton of damage
We all know how it works with tatsugiri
Wave Crash from a doubled 100 Base Attack is no joke
molten oasis
Ig, I’m gonna start going back to balance type zacian, HO worked but I didn’t really like feeling incapable of switching into things, it was kinda rough at times
Very linear type team
And also learning other restricteds, koraidon kyogre and zama
timber falcon
https://pokepast.es/b0c144cf9baa58d0 changed up the team a little (rilla) thoughts?
molten oasis
Ok, how are you going to make it work?
timber falcon
Ok, how are you going to make it work?
Support
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.1
autumn vault
And also Flip Turn
molten oasis
Scald yawn wide guard support looks appealing
Or did it not keep scald
It did not keep scald, L
timber falcon
yeah
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.1
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Here is a completely accurate list of moves it gets
timber falcon
yeah best i could do was liquidation i felt
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Ting-Lu @ Assault Vest
Ability: Vessel of Ruin
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 148 Atk / 100 Def / 4 SpD / 4 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Ruination
- Stomping Tantrum
- Heavy Slam
- Body Press
Opinions on this Ting-Lu set?
252+ Atk Tera-Water Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 100 Def Ting-Lu on a critical hit: 216-264 (82.4 - 100.7%) -- approx. 6.3% chance to OHKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Tera-Fairy Flutter Mane Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Vessel of Ruin Ting-Lu: 204-240 (77.8 - 91.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
molten oasis
Does body press do anything significant damage wise?
Snarl looks better on that spot
timber falcon
Yeah it really does
autumn vault
Does body press do anything significant damage wise?
Hits incineroar without being affected by intimidate
And also Normal and other Dark types
timber falcon
Hits incineroar without being affected by intimidate
Doesn’t really need to
autumn vault
Those are useful to beat
timber falcon
And it won’t be doing much without STAB
autumn vault
I already have this core, i can test both
Snarl and B-Press
To see which one is better for the slot
Or join the dark side and use Fissure (jk i won't)
This core checks CSR, Miraidon, worried about CIR
And also Kyogre
cyan smelt
Dondozo might be good there
timber falcon
assuming zekrom is set up, i dont see why redirection isnt there either, or more FO pressure
lol what
autumn vault
assuming zekrom is set up, i dont see why redirection isnt there either, or more...
I completed the team btw
timber falcon
my 52 speed evd lunala outspeeding chi-yu??
timber falcon
I completed the team btw
paste?
autumn vault
The other ones are Fucker Mane and Ogerpon-W
timber falcon
oh its one of those auto thingys
timber falcon
okie dokie
autumn vault
I have the paste on PC but since i'm lazy idk if it cleaned the area where the PC is
Not taking any risks
timber falcon
better safe than sorry
graceful flare
Wjat the sigma inteleon is so good
lone wyvern
Can some please help me defeat gmax charizard raid in Pokemon Shield
timber falcon
whats the team, also niche can work, doesnt mean its good
timber falcon
Can some please help me defeat gmax charizard raid in Pokemon Shield
wrong channel
lone wyvern
Ohhh sorry
patent marsh
also is NAIC 3 days long?
yea sunday is for the finals in all games from all divisions
same as LAIC and EUIC
timber falcon
ah ok
patent marsh
@mighty stump next week we max out bp
timber falcon
https://pokepast.es/e1c24bbfba0120f2
i think ting lu should be 156 attck evs for that bump
autumn vault
i think ting lu should be 156 attck evs for that bump
If i sacrifice 8 defense evs it gets a 50% chance to be OHKO'd by a tera water 252+ urshifu
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252+ Atk Tera-Water Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 244 HP / 100 Def Ting-Lu on a critical hit: 216-264 (82.7 - 101.1%) -- approx. 6.3% chance to OHKO
Nvm
244 100 is enough
timber falcon
ok nice
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252+ Atk Tera-Water Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 180 HP / 100 Def Ting-Lu on a critical hit: 216-264 (85.3 - 104.3%) -- approx. 6.3% chance to OHKO
timber falcon
oh
autumn vault
That is way lower than i thought ngl
Let me check the other calcs
252 SpA Choice Specs Tera-Fairy Flutter Mane Moonblast vs. 180 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Vessel of Ruin Ting-Lu: 204-240 (80.6 - 94.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Nope doesn't hurt it at all
Ting-Lu is immortal to every attack at full HP ngl
Ting-Lu @ Assault Vest
Ability: Vessel of Ruin
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 180 HP / 220 Atk / 100 Def / 4 SpD / 4 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Throat Chop
- Stomping Tantrum
- Heavy Slam
- Body Press
Improved
timber falcon
except heavily boosted attcks it should live
autumn vault
That thing lives Tera water STAB 252 adamant urshifu rapid strike Surging Strikes
molten oasis
people like clicking glacial lance infront of water and steel types ig
autumn vault
It's bulk is BS
timber falcon
people like clicking glacial lance infront of water and steel types ig
huh?
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252+ Atk Calyrex-Ice Rider Glacial Lance vs. 180 HP / 100 Def Ting-Lu: 152-182 (60 - 71.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Yeah i don't take my statement back
molten oasis
People like to spam glacial lance infront of steel and water types, that’s all
autumn vault
People like to spam glacial lance infront of steel and water types, that’s all
Probably because the partner is weak to Glacial Lance
timber falcon
or just chip
autumn vault
Or just CIR players being stupid
https://pokepast.es/1ebf036477afa923 Now what
I think the team is looking good
charred saddle
covert cloak miraidon, normal tera gholdengo what the actual fuck is this 
solid frigate
covert cloak miraidon, normal tera gholdengo what the actual fuck is this <:kekw...
blame Caly Shadow
mighty stump
<@250386799363489808> next week we max out bp
pog
molten oasis
Probably because the partner is weak to Glacial Lance
Would you click glacial lance infront of urshifu and zacian?
autumn vault
Would you click glacial lance infront of urshifu and zacian?
Why would i ever do that?
Better off clicking HH into Zac
solid frigate
THE APE
timber falcon
Smeargle
molten oasis
Better off clicking HH into Zac
Yea, so you’d be surprised when I see the opponent start spamming glacial lance then I try to pivot and die for it 
molten oasis
That’s a cool team
I can’t say anything bad about teams this reg if they’re performing well or have a good player behind them, there’s a reason they’re there
Diverse format
autumn vault
What a very interesting team, also die smeargle
mighty stump
Regulation G showing everyones skill issues
molten oasis
swords dance feels so good
https://pokepast.es/730c6d6d005c6415 like this, this is very solid
mighty stump
I thought you couldnt use Pelipper
fluid wind
https://pokepast.es/cc09cbc7603dcdd8 what do yall think of this team
solid frigate
where is monke if you need him-
cyan smelt
chi yu and caly is very scary
bold geode
where is monke if you need him-
Bitch you summoning people today?
timber falcon
https://pokepast.es/cc09cbc7603dcdd8 what do yall think of this team
Doubles right?
solid frigate
Bitch you summoning people today?
Look at that Zama team-
cyan smelt
it was his team, with the tera dragon zacian
solid frigate
he used Tera Stellar Zacian now
solid frigate
fair
autumn vault
Bitch you summoning people today?
bitch you swearing at people today?
solid frigate
but dk if thats him
cyan smelt
it is
solid frigate
bitch you swearing at people today?
autumn vault
I know what i was saying when saying that
molten oasis
I thought you couldnt use Pelipper
Well I want to learn how
And it’s good into incin which torn wasn’t
molten oasis
i just watched him play
Yes
solid frigate
thank god i actually had 2 ways to beat Incin
molten oasis
he used Tera Stellar Zacian now
I’m playing balance zacian rn
molten oasis
I’m chilling in 1500’s rn just testing things out
solid frigate
Body Press Archaludon,Urshifu and Terapagos
molten oasis
Idt Tera stellar itself was bad I like it for hyper offense, I don’t like Tera blast
Think I would have gotten more value out of close combat or sacred sword
solid frigate
Idt Tera stellar itself was bad I like it for hyper offense, I don’t like Tera b...
Stellar Tera Blast looks bad but starstorm works cuz its only for Terapagos-
So yeah Sacred sword works
molten oasis
Mhmm
I don’t feel like I needed it as much since it was pretty much just to pressure Tera but that didn’t really work all that well
solid frigate
like seriously Stellar Tera Blast is just not it
Unless you are playing Contrary Mons
molten oasis
Mhmm, still did pretty okay with it at NAIC
solid frigate
Mhmm, still did pretty okay with it at NAIC
at least its net positive for you
molten oasis
Think I might have been able to day 2 if I had more mu practice into CIR
solid frigate
CIR is Pain
molten oasis
But that’s ok I’ll day 2 the next regional I go to
solid frigate
cool
https://pokepast.es/4eb9b3dc4486ef22
Just need some opinions on this remade Team
Terapagos EVs i will update it
molten oasis
Mental herb and Tera dark?
solid frigate
Mental herb and Tera dark?
Covert Cloak is used for Pagos,Sash for Chi Yu and Rocky Helm for Amoonguss
solid frigate
Sharp beak torn no balls
for more damage lol
molten oasis
Exactly
solid frigate
i mean there are some cases that mental Herb saved my life against Whimsicott
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https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2139300578 If you want to suffer brainrot watch this replay
molten oasis
i mean there are some cases that mental Herb saved my life against Whimsicott
At least run Tera ghost
solid frigate
At least run Tera ghost
i can try
molten oasis
For FO
solid frigate
i have too many Shards
autumn vault
Or not run Mental herb and run something else and keep tera dark
solid frigate
Or not run Mental herb and run something else and keep tera dark
all the items are used already
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Sash is the only other option ig
solid frigate
Cloak,Helm and Sash are in Pagos,Chi Yu and Amoonguss
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Ah wait i'm blind
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graceful flare
I've had the most success with terapagos
solid frigate
graceful flare
But csr is extremely easy to use and can destroy everything but terapagos
solid frigate
Terapagos is not the best Restricted
autumn vault
I love how no one voted CSR
solid frigate
sure its top 5 but its not top 1
solid frigate
i feel like for me Terapagos is 4th best Restricted
autumn vault
I think it is 3rd behind CSR and infront of Miraidon
graceful flare
I'm on mobile discodd
autumn vault
Oh well, too bad
graceful flare
i feel like for me Terapagos is 4th best Restricted
What is 1 2 3
solid frigate
autumn vault
My top 5:
5. Zamazenta
4. Miraidon
3. Terapagos
2. CSR
- CIR
solid frigate
What is 1 2 3
CIR,Miraidon,CSR
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graceful flare
C s r number one
solid frigate
Move Koraidon lower
autumn vault
I'm thinking of bumping down Dialga-O and Ray
Koraidon has been very good for me
I feel like it is better than Grudon and Luna but worse than Kyogree
solid frigate
Dialga and Ray lower but Zekrom had to be lower cuz i can't see it be with Zekrom
autumn vault
Thats also fair
solid frigate
oh yeah and Dusk Mane is too high
solid frigate
no Clear Body and dead to Incineroar
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And Solgaleo
graceful flare
no Clear Body and dead to Incineroar
Clear amulet?
Or do they need held item to fuse?
solid frigate
i put Solgaleo just a bit higher than Dusk Mane solely because clear body
solid frigate
Clear amulet?
You forced to Hold the CA but you lose to everyone else
autumn vault
Clear amulet?
Full Metal Body is basically the same as clear amulet
solid frigate
its like Groudon
solid frigate
Full Metal Body is basically the same as clear amulet
Dusk Mane
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.1
solid frigate
Caly S does not work with Psyspam in my opinion
i rather focus on using Draining Kiss And Tera Fairy for being a Defensive and Offensive Tera Option
graceful flare
What ability is dawn wing
solid frigate
What ability is dawn wing
ok i am highly suspecting you are blind-
graceful flare
What
solid frigate
no offense
solid frigate
its literally right there
graceful flare
Wait what
solid frigate
graceful flare
Ohh how'd I not notice what does it do
solid frigate
Shadow Shield but worse
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.1
graceful flare
Should I use dgleam on terapagos
solid frigate
why.
graceful flare
To destroy non tera koraidon
graceful flare
How have you still not learned
solid frigate
if you can use Pokepaste last time
autumn vault
How have you still not learned
You haven't even learned what a paste is
You shouldn't be saying that
solid frigate
You haven't even learned what a paste is
he used it
autumn vault
Oh right
autumn vault
I prefer E-Power to have a way to beat Zama and Miraidon
And Zama in general is a shit MU for Pagos
solid frigate
also i just did the Cals on my Urshifu against Koraidon
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?
solid frigate
?
252+ Atk Tera Water Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Koraidon in Rain on a critical hit: 102-120 (58.2 - 68.5%) -- approx. 2HKO
lmfao
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Anyways updated tier list, i think this is a good representation of my opinions on how good the pokemon is
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252+ Atk Tera Water Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 0 HP / 4 D...
No way
timber falcon
Anyways updated tier list, i think this is a good representation of my opinions ...
Rn I would say csr > cir
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Rn I would say csr > cir
I disagree
solid frigate
CIR gets knocked out of the Finalist and top 4 in Events by Miraidon,Zamazenta and Terapagos
timber falcon
Exactly
autumn vault
As a Zekrom/Koraidon player i despise it more than Fucker Mane
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I want CIR to get done dirty by a restricted that has a type disadvantage against CIR
solid frigate
I want CIR to get done dirty by a restricted that has a type disadvantage agains...
Miraidon?
timber falcon
Also I think pagos > cir right now
solid frigate
Also I think pagos > cir right now
i would say the are equal
timber falcon
I disagree
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Miraidon?
Miraidon nukes it before CIR can even do something
Me when i play a match with Miraidon or Calyrex:
Meme time ig
solid frigate
I disagree
CIR is still pretty strong and i can see the consistency on it
It's just get dirty by mons who either nukes it or Type Advantage
autumn vault
CSR dies at the sight of a dark type who is incineroar or ting lu
And also a specially bulky one
solid frigate
i think what Tier List make are more directly on the restricted quality itself and not restricted +Partners
autumn vault
My method of making restricted tier lists are:
- See how strong it is
- Compare restricteds between themselves
- Their viability in the meta unless it's zekrom
- See people argue the shit out of themselves with my tier list
Every tier list is quite controversial
autumn vault
Thats a very fair approach
willow vault
I don’t have bias outside Palkia but I’m aware of the truth
autumn vault
Hello Creph
solid frigate
and Dawn WIngs i put it high cuz there are actual placements in Japan Nationals and I think it has Potential
willow vault
Hello Creph
Hallo
autumn vault
Yeah i have also been thinking about that
Getting higher results than Lunala who is at A tier in Japan Nationals
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also i am a groudon hater
is it because of Precimiss Blades?
solid frigate
is it because of Precimiss Blades?
thats one of the options,also Gravity Team Groudon exists
solid frigate
like exactly
and also Groudon's Items are kinda strange to decide
also Assault Vest is just better item cuz you only lose to Incin but not others
solid frigate
Me and OTOT actually tried AV Groudon
autumn vault
If you go AV then you get intimidate cycled
autumn vault
Me and OTOT actually tried AV Groudon
Don't remind me of that tragedy
The tragedy where he looked for justification for Flutter Mane
solid frigate
If you go AV then you get intimidate cycled
but think about it you have Partners who can deal with Incin and i don't want to lose to everything with Groudon
solid frigate
Bolt is also a fair partner with it
autumn vault
Scream Tail, was an interesting choice
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Bolt is also a fair partner with it
Bolt kills the toilet bird which is very useful for both sun setters
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I do have to give it a try ngl
solid frigate
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And also Tofu suggested me to use Weezing to ignore armor tail which is very clever
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Mirror match
cyan smelt
Tempting to try galarian weezing, at least it resists draining kiss
solid frigate
Mirror match
ah yes Rayquaza+Chien Pao and the big 4 in non Restricted
solid frigate
i fought some Rayquazas before but they all fall to Redirection Bait
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I reached a milestone! 100 Battles won
solid frigate
i fought some Rayquazas before but they all fall to Redirection Bait
like they just dragon ascent and let it killed by Terapagos
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Tera Normal 252+ Adamant E-Speed with SoR is no joke
Easily outclasses Dnite
But they should have played better
solid frigate
thye have their ups and down
autumn vault
Every restricted does
chrome knot
Easily outclasses Dnite
yknow why dnite is better
cyan smelt
Doesn't need clam
chrome knot
no it frees up your restricted pick
timber falcon
I reached a milestone! 100 Battles won
nice
timber falcon
Easily outclasses Dnite
it doesnt though
autumn vault
In terms of power no
But only because of the restricted slot dnite is more worth it
autumn vault
Doesn't need clam
Oh great let me go to the beach and get a clam to give it to Rayquaza
(jk)
(Ik he is refering to clear amulet)
timber falcon
btw whould ihands have hp invest?
i feel like that would probably optimise spdef for it
solid frigate
btw whould ihands have hp invest?
Iron Hands @ Assault Vest
Ability: Quark Drive
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 172 HP / 156 Atk / 4 Def / 172 SpD / 4 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Fake Out
- Wild Charge
- Drain Punch
- Heavy Slam
Saw that on Munchstats
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.1
timber falcon
thanks ill try it out
solid frigate
thanks ill try it out
i might try Hands myself as well
bold geode
like they just dragon ascent and let it killed by Terapagos
Damn if only they didn't
solid frigate
Damn if only they didn't
lemme check the calcs for one sec
bold geode
Mirror match
Wait why you using Hitmontop?
solid frigate
236+ SpA Terapagos-Terastal Tera Starstorm vs. -1 0 HP / 0 SpD Rayquaza: 157-186 (87.2 - 103.3%) -- 25% chance to OHKO
molten oasis
Hi
timber falcon
hi
solid frigate
hi
timber falcon
im womndering if i even benefit from AV hands rn
solid frigate
what team tho for you
forest arrow
Hi
timber falcon
https://pokepast.es/871b28c3308f5ccb this team
solid frigate
its not TR?
i mean it still works but probably because use TR Lunala
i might build a team with Dawn Wings Hands
timber falcon
yeah hands is doing well
only difficult thing is its a wincon for most of my MUs, so im cosidering protect to allow it to stay on field safely
solid frigate
Rn i tried Entei,Wellspring Pon and Grimmsnarl on my Dawn Wings team
timber falcon
how did entei do?
solid frigate
ive been a fan of entei since my groudon team
its underrated in this FOrmat
timber falcon
yeah it fits nicely
solid frigate
and i think it looks good for my team and it can stop Special Attackers
timber falcon
yeah i also think it fairs well in sun teams
solid frigate
Urshifu Dark tho.....
timber falcon
helps out clam mons
solid frigate
Yeah this Team kinda struggles on Urshifu Dark
timber falcon
oh yeah no resist
solid frigate
well i mean Grimmsnarl
timber falcon
CC
solid frigate
thats Neutral
timber falcon
what really wants to eat a neutral CC though, its not dondozo
then again im assuming dawn wings is a tera hog, therefore fairy tera will be used
solid frigate
what really wants to eat a neutral CC though, its not dondozo
252+ Atk Urshifu Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 212 Def Grimmsnarl: 121-144 (59.9 - 71.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Urshifu Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 212 Def Grimmsnarl through Reflect: 81-96 (40 - 47.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
timber falcon
one recurring factor to account for in lunala/dawn-wing teams i almost forgot to consider is that
solid frigate
one recurring factor to account for in lunala/dawn-wing teams i almost forgot to...
exactly
timber falcon
252+ Atk Urshifu Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 212 Def Grimmsnarl through Reflect: 8...
oh i didnt even see tha evs
solid frigate
oh i didnt even see tha evs
the EVs are Physically bulky
solid frigate
no wait i was finishing sentence lol
lel
timber falcon
i covered dursh with clefairy
anyways, its that the same tool people use for csr WILL be used agaisnt you
like yesterday i was jumped by snarl wake, people are going to be using dark type moves on mons that dont usually use em so be careful in cts
solid frigate
mhm
autumn vault
Wait why you using Hitmontop?
I didn't want to repeat types and not repeat any 4× flying weakness so that disqualifies incin landorus therian h arca, wide guard would also be appreciated so i went with hitmontop
timber falcon
nothing wrong with repeating types if it helps out
autumn vault
I already have 3 rock weaknesses, i didn't want more rock weaknesses
So no Fire types
timber falcon
ah ok
solid frigate
tho Meteor Beam exist
timber falcon
just protect and no more meteor beam
solid frigate
mhm
autumn vault
And thats it
H-Arcanine Glimmora Cornerstone Ogerpon and Iron Boulder:
Cornerstone is actually the most used ogerpon rn
timber falcon
i actually did see whimsicott terakion today
autumn vault
You get my point: I don't want more than 3 weaknesses to any type
solid frigate
i actually did see whimsicott terakion today
Not another beat up strat
timber falcon
Not another beat up strat
clefairy walled
autumn vault
i actually did see whimsicott terakion today
Annihilape and Archaludon + beat up returning?!
solid frigate
Annihilape and Archaludon + beat up returning?!
nah i don't like that strat
solid frigate
2-5 times
timber falcon
and is priority...
autumn vault
Probably too inconsistent without dice
solid frigate
so niche greninja use could be beat up strat
Greninja @ Focus Sash
Ability: Protean
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Taunt
- Dark Pulse
- Hydro Pump
- Icy Wind
I use this
autumn vault
And Gren wants Sash
solid frigate
me being a Gren Fan:
solid frigate
also Greninja's Speed is not bad,122 is decent
But gets Outclassed by Flutter
autumn vault
even 2 times is enough for those strats tbh
Beat up hits 4 times at max, only 25% will it actually hit more
timber falcon
Greninja @ Focus Sash
Ability: Protean
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 4...
u seem to make mons like this without a FO plan quite a bit
autumn vault
NAIC live in 22 minutes
solid frigate
u seem to make mons like this without a FO plan quite a bit
do you think i truly use the Caly Ice Team
timber falcon
do you think i truly use the Caly Ice Team
you have a caly-ice team?
solid frigate
you have a caly-ice team?
timber falcon
solid frigate
its just prototype
solid frigate
and its tr
i mean.....
its beats some strat that requires regular taunt
instead of prankster taunt
muk and Smeragle Strat gets Ruined by Greninja+Incineroar
timber falcon
people still use that?
warped mason
This guy went 8-1 NAIC with overqwil
solid frigate
people still use that?
yeah-
timber falcon
This guy went 8-1 NAIC with overqwil
the set looks respectable tbh
its rain with swift swim
solid frigate
This guy went 8-1 NAIC with overqwil
overqwill hype
solid frigate
Just like Tofu said
This Reg is just Innovation
warped mason
also scarf lando huh
I guess to cheese miraidon
solid frigate
Greninja and Cresselia is something Niche i build on teams
warped mason
Scarfed lando still ohko's with sandshear right?
timber falcon
With sheer force it should
autumn vault
Just like Tofu said
This Reg is just Innovation
Like 27 speed iv amoonguss? That underspeeds CIR and outspeeds it in TR
timber falcon
And jolly incin too
charred saddle
Scarfed lando still ohko's with sandshear right?
iirc it doesnt
autumn vault
Also, where did all the zama's go.
To OTOT's ass online ladder
warped mason
To ~~OTOT's ass~~ online ladder
I was referring to NAIC top cut
charred saddle
252+ SpA Sheer Force Landorus Sandsear Storm vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Miraidon: 150-176 (85.2 - 100%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
timber falcon
252+ SpA Sheer Force Landorus Sandsear Storm vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Miraidon: 150-176...
Oh well this doesn’t look too good
charred saddle
252+ SpA Sheer Force Landorus Earth Power vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Miraidon: 180-212 (102.2 - 120.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
autumn vault
I was referring to NAIC top cut
I was joking, i really don't know what might have caused it outside of CSR
timber falcon
252+ SpA Sheer Force Landorus Earth Power vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Miraidon: 180-212 (1...
Oh yeah spread does less
warped mason
Scarfed tera ground sear's does seem pretty threatening tho
warped mason
Also lets not ignore the 3 wo-chiens lol
timber falcon
Moxie?
charred saddle
so if its like theres a chance of follow me i just tera ground sandsear
warped mason
Kyogre's new best friend
charred saddle
but eh depends on ur kyogre set
i do run specs last time, but it was a bit restricting since i cant play around FO that easily if im leading both
tsareena/fari + torn is like theyre best partner making 4/6
no FO stop pressure makes the game a lot harder
and also amoonguss is a problem
warped mason
Oh yeah amoongus does seem pretty bad
charred saddle
id recommend you run like mystic water kyogre and taunt for torn
warped mason
Considering he's not on tera grass
charred saddle
so you can just bleakwind it or just taunt it
yeah, so u can just go like grass tera mystic water as the standard goes
dont see anything wrong with it
charred saddle
wochien is fun partner, just dont know how to pilot it 
warped mason
Do 7-2's make day 2?
chrome knot
yes
warped mason
Someone needs to let moxie know about the wo chien success lol
solid frigate
where is Moxie lol
solid frigate
Someone needs to let moxie know about the wo chien success lol
he probably knows lol
foggy lodge
Choice scarf Lando-I wtf
autumn vault
Wo Chien > All the other treasures of ruin
foggy lodge
Damn there's a Overqwil on stream lmao
foggy lodge
Tera poison Overqwil
mighty stump
Swift Swim I assume
timber falcon
Swift Swim I assume
acid spray, gunk shot too
autumn vault
It is
next stump
wow that was not close at all lol
mighty stump
Lmao
timber falcon
oh and thats overquil gone?
timber falcon
Oh so part of piloting is knowing what mons should go out first right
Cause on the interview rn he said he planned those leads to put pressure on a bunch of stuff since there was no intim
next stump
Yotam the 🐐
I think Piloting to me at least is mostly the idea of playing the individual turns themselves well, not really pre-planning your leads
but at the end of the day it’s just semantics
timber falcon
what would u call pre-planning leads then?
Also it’s not the full team but this is interesting
next stump
that’s POGO hahaha
foggy lodge
Why is Lanturn meta on POGO 😭
next stump
I think planning leads falls more under matchup preparation. He’s definitely played against TornOgre in practice and knew that he could exploit it with that lead especially with no intimidate
timber falcon
iron hands comeback???
solid frigate
send the thing pic
timber falcon
ive never seen the impact from reg changes before, very interesting
foggy lodge
solid frigate
Ditto just give me the funni vibes energy in this pic
solid frigate
Day 1-
timber falcon
Still, I thought it would’ve been way less
foggy lodge
timber falcon
Lol it’s higher
solid frigate
i mean Miraidon's Popularity is not as high as Caly S and Caly I in Indys but still won
timber falcon
pagos plushie on stream- and its stolen? 
solid frigate
The heck
timber falcon
smth about stolen from brother or frind, i cant tell
molten oasis
Cir is brutal to handle
timber falcon
i am so damn sleepy
only one way to fix that
solid frigate
?
timber falcon
to sleep
autumn vault
What happened to Groudon?
mighty stump
CARRIS VS FACTURA
timber falcon
iron crown
forest arrow
lesss fing gooo
forest arrow
come on J
solid frigate
where is the Suicune when its theme plays-
timber falcon
dang the shiny zama + shiny thundurus too
solid frigate
bro has to flex
autumn vault
No Iron Defense Zama is interesting
forest arrow
thats like
timber falcon
hasnt it done very well b4
forest arrow
been a thing for a while lol
forest arrow
hasnt it done very well b4
yes lol
autumn vault
It has?
timber falcon
yeah
autumn vault
All the Zama i see run id
solid frigate
Justin has to flex lol
timber falcon
why not after all, its very cool
forest arrow
i mean you dont watch regionals so im not suprised that you dont know.
autumn vault
i mean you dont watch regionals so im not suprised that you dont know.
Stay quiet, i don't want anyone to know
solid frigate
Justin:BEHOLD,MY TEAM OF SHINY
forest arrow
Dont need to stay quiet when its blatantly obvious lol
solid frigate
wait is it every pokemon on his team shiny
timber falcon
wait is it every pokemon on his team shiny
idk, im waiting for him to swap so i can see
autumn vault
idk, im waiting for him to swap so i can see <:PikaLmao:678990785500413962>
Curiosity peaked your interest?
forest arrow
I’m suprised incin lived that BP
timber falcon
mustve had lots of defence invest cause AV?
solid frigate
he can discharge now for free
timber falcon
wide guard
solid frigate
wide guard
oh-
autumn vault
That length is the reason why i watch only replays without commentary
solid frigate
why did i forgot that
timber falcon
bruh eeriee impulse affects electirc types???
autumn vault
bruh eeriee impulse affects electirc types???
Did you forget that conversation?
timber falcon
yes, i forget lots of things
timber falcon
yep its a shiny
autumn vault
Except chien pao
molten oasis
Crit mattered
solid frigate
Justin:BEHOLD MY ALMOST FULL SHINY MONS
timber falcon
wait what crit mattered?
solid frigate
Thundurus
molten oasis
Rilla crit the whimsicott at 1 hp
timber falcon
welp there goes pao
autumn vault
Riley won the match
molten oasis
OH, you guys have lag huh
solid frigate
Miraidon Go br now
solid frigate
OH, you guys have lag huh
i don't
molten oasis
No
timber falcon
OH, you guys have lag huh
u a time traveler for me lol
autumn vault
Doubt Justin can win the set ngl
molten oasis
I’m at the event
forest arrow
Unfortunate
autumn vault
OH, you guys have lag huh
A bit yes
timber falcon
I see stuff faster
i think u do
solid frigate
Miraidon go brrrr
mighty stump
No reason not turn target Iron Crown since Miraidon is in Sucker range
molten oasis
molten oasis
I wonder if he was expecting pao to live tachyon cutter
timber falcon
same leads after a loss seems a tad risky to me, maybe he realised he couldve won that?
solid frigate
can someone make the meme of Justin Carris Showing off his team full of Shinies
autumn vault
Ngl i would have used FO at Crown and used icicle crash on the mirai slot
OHKO on the incin
timber falcon
oh the bodypress was a roll
solid frigate
oh wait
autumn vault
?
solid frigate
Expert Belt boosted Super Effective Damage
timber falcon
i thought it would live under -2
tcutter
solid frigate
oh that explains pao death
-2 252 SpA Expert Belt Iron Crown Tachyon Cutter (2 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Chien-Pao: 144-172 (92.9 - 110.9%) -- approx. 56.3% chance to OHKO
Ghost Tera Miraidon is so cursed
timber falcon
so it increased roll, assuming crown is max
molten oasis
You mean whims
solid frigate
Ghost Tera Mirai is so damn cursed but it makes sense
timber falcon
i feel like crown is bait
molten oasis
I’m not saying Riley wins from here I’m saying it can
timber falcon
yeh i gotta work on my reading comprehension
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.1
autumn vault
Imagine neding a reminder on the stats of Miraidon
solid frigate
Imagine neding a reminder on the stats of Miraidon
the weight.
timber falcon
whim needs to swap here?
solid frigate
i am checking the weight
autumn vault
That makes sense
warped mason
Iron crown usage 
autumn vault
Iron crown usage <:Pog:577579050059431951>
You are very late
solid frigate
Iron crown usage <:Pog:577579050059431951>
i might use it
timber falcon
whim has to swap right?
solid frigate
i like this apporach
timber falcon
yeah
warped mason
What does psychic noise do again?
solid frigate
ok Heavy slam does nothing
autumn vault
What does psychic noise do again?
Its also 75 BP 100% accurate
Stop healing for 2 or 3 turns
solid frigate
i think that move is shown in the Indigo Disk Trailer
autumn vault
I don't remember which one
timber falcon
I think justin wins this round
molten oasis
Justin wins from here
timber falcon
throat chop into miraidon slot wins right?
mighty stump
Doubt Justin can win the set ngl
Bro spoke too soon
mighty stump
throat chop into miraidon slot wins right?
Sucker pins lol
autumn vault
Its just the 2nd match
forest arrow
cough cough*
autumn vault
It will be a 1-1
timber falcon
Sucker pins lol
would it have KOd?
solid frigate
wait its the Iron Crown Max Max Min?
autumn vault
But Justin does have better odds
forest arrow
Im sayinggg bro
solid frigate
does anyone know that Iron Crown is Max Max Min?
autumn vault
But Justin does have better odds
Is this a joke to you?
graceful flare
autumn vault
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGeqx7dPv/
Eww TikTok
warped mason
Was iron crown speed boost?
solid frigate
Was iron crown speed boost?
its SPA even if Timid nature for Max Max Min
mighty stump
Carris already had Riley pinned G1 too he just misplayed
timber falcon
i see
also im not exactly seeing dragon cheer miraidons
guess specs is the way to go
graceful flare
Choice scarf terapagos?
timber falcon
no damage?
forest arrow
its SpA boosted
solid frigate
Choice scarf terapagos?
tf are you thinking about
autumn vault
Choice scarf terapagos?
Dont you dare ever suggest that
solid frigate
Dont you dare ever suggest that
i am dissapointed
timber falcon
its not THAT bad of an idea, just a bit niche i think
graceful flare
Is it cuz it will be gamebreaking or just bar
autumn vault
Bad
graceful flare
Bad
timber falcon
maybe under the right team it can do well
autumn vault
Straight up bad
solid frigate
maybe under the right team it can do well
don't
graceful flare
252 speed ev and jolly nature tho
solid frigate
im keeping it on my notes of potential teams
i'm serious
graceful flare
if i dont lose interest
U will need max speed ev and speed boost nature probably to work
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.1
solid frigate
I am legit serious,I rather seeing Silk Scarf Pagos than Choice Scarf
autumn vault
im keeping it on my notes of potential teams
Imagine saying this when 2 people say its bad
bold geode
How's NAIC Day 2 going?
forest arrow
Carris v Factura monke
autumn vault
How's NAIC Day 2 going?
Justin doing great
timber falcon
just cause smth is seen as bad, doesnt mean it cant work
solid frigate
How's NAIC Day 2 going?
Miraidon vs Zamazenta
timber falcon
im not saying its good
solid frigate
im not saying its good
OTOT don't give I'm I'm I'm Positivity
bold geode
Miraidon vs Zamazenta
Who's using what
molten oasis
This looks rough
molten oasis
Who's using what
Carris zama Factura Miraidon
solid frigate
Who's using what
Justin Carris with Zamazenta, Riley Factura Miraidon
autumn vault
OTOT don't give I'm I'm I'm Positivity
He might report this, be careful
molten oasis
Justin Carris with Zamazenta, Riley Factura Miraidon
🫵
timber falcon
OTOT don't give I'm I'm I'm Positivity
i mean it definitely can be done, well anything can, but you get my point
molten oasis
I’m faster
solid frigate
He might report this, be careful
idfc honestly
timber falcon
guys let it go
autumn vault
Very good point, both of you
forest arrow
Zama with thundy
solid frigate
I’m faster
blame me for not invest on Speed 20 EVs lol
bold geode
Can we not bring this shit up lol
molten oasis
Real
timber falcon
mhm
molten oasis
Also, enjoy NAIC, dump the Im Im Im stuff
autumn vault
Also, enjoy NAIC, dump the Im Im Im stuff
101% true
solid frigate
but eh
autumn vault
Lets just do that
timber falcon
bro im tryna treat him like i would anyone else, i think the idea can work
molten oasis
Let it go
autumn vault
NAIC boring as hell
timber falcon
its my honest thought
timber falcon
NAIC boring as hell
molten oasis
NAIC boring as hell
Good to watch to see how people play
solid frigate
Rillaboom down
forest arrow
yes
autumn vault
This is why i watch replays and not live matches
solid frigate
is zacian in day 2?
top 8 usage
timber falcon
is zacian in day 2?
made top 8
strange fjord
yooo
molten oasis
This is so doomed
timber falcon
also justin doesnt look to be in the best of positions
bold geode
Can someone show Carris team?
strange fjord
Is Zacian the secret sleeper pick to win NAIC?!
solid frigate
This is so doomed
it looks bleak for Justin but he can still win
autumn vault
Losing Rilla isn't good against a Mirai
solid frigate
Can someone show Carris team?
Zama,Thundy,Rilla,Chien pao,Pelipper and someone else
bold geode
Ah
timber falcon
shifu is that someone else
solid frigate
shifu is that someone else
ah ok
molten oasis
Oh shifu is huge
solid frigate
also Ghost Tera Miraidon is cursed
bold geode
Room Service Pelipper
timber falcon
welp Justin tried his best 
its overpon
molten oasis
I think it’s over
warped mason
That chien pao is annoying
solid frigate
Room Service Pelipper
the item is such a meme lol
autumn vault
Room Service Pelipper
Not that one, the one that says it smell like bitch in here
warped mason
Oooo incin wins here
bold geode
Nuh Uh
timber falcon
oh wait- is it over???
warped mason
Wait
solid frigate
URSHIFU
molten oasis
Bringing urshifu was definetly the right call
solid frigate
Urshifu go brrr
timber falcon
pao cant touch incin, once zama dies its over
mighty stump
GGs beautiful set
warped mason
Gg
timber falcon
GGs
solid frigate
Surging is enough now
forest arrow
ggs
solid frigate
ggs
mighty stump
Great adaptation on Riley’s end
warped mason
Volt switch miraidon's signature move
solid frigate
i wanna try out the Crown Mirai
timber falcon
ggs
solid frigate
but might edit something
autumn vault
Mission Failed
We'll get 'em next time - probably Justin
timber falcon
next match when?
bold geode
Great adaptation on Riley’s end
Hey Tofu
warped mason
Its cool to see iron crown used for something other than psy spam
timber falcon
wow cant even say hi back 